Quantic Dream: Heavy Rain QTE criticism is 'bull***t'

  • Posted August 28th, 2009 at 16:58 EDT by Mike Harradence
  • 51 Comments

Quantic Dream bigwig David Cage has brushed off criticism accusing the firm’s upcoming PlayStation 3 thriller Heavy Rain for being over reliant on quick time events.

The studio co-founder didn’t mince his words when given the opportunity to hit out at recent criticism of the hotly anticipated title at GamesCom last week, stating, "Bullshit! Just bullshit! I mean what's the question? We released Fahrenheit before. People know very well what the kind of balance we're looking for is. The balance is quite similar in Heavy Rain.”

Cage noted that sceptics are likely confused by the game’s 3D interface, mistaking it for quick time events, when in fact you are given absolute freedom to explore and interact with the environment around you.

"I think that people who didn't see any demos or did not play the game are a little bit confused by the fact that the interface is in 3D. It's not quick time events. You navigate. You're free to explore. It's just that the interface, instead of being 2D icons in the lower corner, they are now inside the set. That's the only difference. You control the character second to second, and the balance is quite similar to Fahrenheit. There's no difference."

Wrapping up, Cage stated emphatically that the game’s objective is to tell the story through gameplay segments, not cut scenes – if it were the latter, he noted it wouldn't be any different than making a movie.

"You know when you make a first-person shooter, you just see ten seconds and you know what the game is about," said Cage. "When you see a game that has no real reference, that is kind of different, it's really difficult. Some people imagine things. Don't be afraid. It's not quick time based. All the purpose of Heavy Rain is to tell the story not through cutscenes but through gameplay. I would be stupid just to release cutscenes. I mean what's the point? I'd better make movie then. That's silly."

Heavy Rain is due out exclusively for PS3 early next year.

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  1. Satsu66

    • 5:04pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    You tell em David. God forbid someone uses imagination in their make believe video games.

  2. hotshotdas

    • 5:04pm BST - August 28th, 2009

     Don't sweat it big homie I"ll buy the game and let you know what I think

     

  3. Kyaw | kyaw25

    • 5:05pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    There you go!

    For those doubtful peeps!

  4. PS3-The Ultimate Machine

    • 5:10pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Well,he's right you know,QTEs in this game are definitely balanced and well timed,unlike SOOOOOOOOOO many other games this gen,which just use random QTEs for the sake of QTEs.

  5. lordAlucard | Sympozium_666

    • 5:12pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Gotta kill them non believers they think CoD 4 is greatest game ever

  6. toffyd

    • 5:13pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    haha yeah im with  #1. 

  7. jakster123x | jakster123x

    • 5:14pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    why did they balnk out the swear word in the title and keep it in the actual post? weird, anyway you tell those haters David

  8. toffyd

    • 5:19pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @5

    its ONE of the best games out there. shooting games tend not to have a good storyline but cod4 does have one. Multiplayer is no doubt about it the best one out there tho.

  9. fleinn | fleinn

    • 5:24pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    "When you see a game that has no real reference, that is kind of different, it's really difficult."

    Yep. (Send me a review- copy, mr. Cage! :D) 

  10. Enoktekatal

    • 5:32pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    The gameplay might be cool but the story only being 10 hours and is going to make this game BLOW.  This developer needs more imagination and less DLC in the future.  15-20 hour games shoud be a minimum if you arent going to have a robust multiplayer.

  11. Tha_Last_Romeo | Tha_Last_Romeo

    • 5:34pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Thats what I like to hear.. Stay up for yourself!!!

  12. liquidus118 | liquidus118

    • 5:43pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Wow, a developer with the balls to say it how it is.

  13. Zabuza | MuayThaiFiend

    • 5:52pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    QTE is fine by me.  Dunno what these idiots who criticize it are talking about.  This isn't supposed to be an RPG.

  14. hillybilly | apeh

    • 5:53pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @8 sorry you lost me when you claimed the story was good.

    CoD4 wasnt even a great MP game, its basically CSS all over again with perks, heavy rain on the other hand is completely unique and im loving the style of the game (I was a big fan of indigo prophecy/farheneit)

  15. The Praiseworthy | The-Praiseworthy

    • 5:57pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    When Heavy Rain Released... it will shut all these Criticisms up .

  16. Nekratal

    • 6:02pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    heavy rain is no. 1 on my wish list.

     

    - david cage u rule -

  17. toffyd

    • 6:06pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @14 . the cod4 story IS good.. im excited about this game coming out aswell.

  18. Suley | SuLeY96

    • 6:09pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    lol. I'm guessing he is passionate about Heavy Rain.

  19. tetsuo2k8

    • 6:22pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    I don't understand poeple who compare two different type of game ,  you can't compare a first-person shooter  like (COD4) to an action aventure game (Heavy Rain) .

     

     

  20. xxDOYLExx

    • 6:22pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    I fully support this game and plan on a purchase, but I think its time for QD to put up or shut up.  At the very least give a release date.  It just seems like they are getting cold feet with the release.

  21. Olly1234

    • 6:32pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    I agree with 19

    Whether you hate cod4 or you think this game looks bad, you can't really compare them. I myself am looking forward to this and like playing cod4 multiplayer. won't be getting cod6 though.....

  22. jman12343 | jman12343

    • 6:47pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    This is how developers should treat critics that don't know what they're talking about. You should never insult a game that you don't know enough about.

    @10

    You do realize that it will be around 10 of solid near limitless gameplay. The replay value of this game should be amazing (as long as the game is actually like it has been previewed so far). With all of the choices and options throughout the game, I can almost guarantee you'll want to play through multiple times to try things completely different and see how things end up. That and the fact that short games aren't instantly bad. Look at Mirrors Edge. Whether you liked it or not, you have to admit that the game was really innovative and unique, and although it was a short game without real online, it was still fun. I'm not saying it was the best game or anything but it was definately fun, and Heavy Rain seems to be turning out into an amazing game so far. At the current moment, it's my most looked forward to exclusive.

  23. Aramil_Caelan

    • 6:59pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Heavy Rain looks great

    what pisses me off is when devs advertise a gameplay mechanic thats just a gimmick

    Star Wars TFU's DMM & multiple endings were bull***t

    Fable II's families and properties were bull***t

    inFamous' cover system was bull***t

    Heavy Rain's gameplay is innovative, not bull***t

  24. jello_snake

    • 7:00pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    It looks cool, tho ill only rent it because im a cheap bastard and buy very few games.

  25. DarkNemesis

    • 7:38pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    What difference does it make,really? Even if it was only quick time everything is not a button masher or a game filled with tons of fighting.People need to try differnt types of games because it's all just interactive entertainment anyway.

  26. SldSnake | sldsnake

    • 7:41pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @ 26 your freakin awesome and are going to buy this game!!

  27. Two4DaMoney

    • 7:41pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Someone has bypassed the curse filter haha....oh yea, hr will be amazing for the who enjoy a good story.

  28. Epyon_1 | MoneyM07

    • 7:42pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    sorry to be off topic but who were the winners for the pyramid chargers?

    this game is going to be very good, its a buy for me

  29. Overcast | Gamenificent

    • 7:48pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    I Love it!!! Call out the ignorant critics on their Bull#%$@!

  30. Analyzer

    • 7:55pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    the QTE critics are a bunch of 360 trolls that know they got NOTHING to look foward to but a HALO game..then another HALO game...followed by another HALO games.....LOL

  31. Ocelot1987 | METSTM

    • 9:03pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Who are they to judge this game when they haven't even played it? You can't judge it off a few trailers. This game looks like it is trying something innovative so they shouldn't bash it before it even has a demo.

  32. Overcast | Gamenificent

    • 9:11pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    You can count this up to fanboyism if you want but having a 360 I know both communities well. The PS3 crowd is gnerally more open to games that force you to think and games that aren't considered traditional and try to break new ground. 360 owners (most not all) are into a bunch of fast paced explosion nonsense and hate it when a game forces you to think on any level. I've actually read people's complaints on the 360 boards about how batman arkahm asylum would have been better if it was straight fighting and how lame and boring the detective parts are. I've also noticed that PSN online is much more enjoyable because the people you play with arent usually 12 year olds screaming into a mic about how uber-leet they are (I don;t even know what that means)

  33. FatherOfOne

    • 9:25pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    So David I am a bit confused.  What is your real feelings on this issue?

     

  34. BlinkyEC | BlinkyEC

    • 9:54pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @33 that it's all bulls**t!! XD

  35. Decode1976

    • 10:13pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    This "game" is going to come and go.  I especially love the comments about this being the best game out there.  Really?

    As for the "game" itself it looks like a new version of those old games from the 80s where you pop in a VHS tape and have a little card that goes along with to interact.  This is a glorified 10 hour interactive cut-scene, nothing more.  You might as well get one of those choose your own adventure books, at least those are interactive.

  36. BlinkyEC | BlinkyEC

    • 10:22pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @35 everyone has different taste your not making anyone reconsider.. either your trolling or just an *sshole trying to get attention by writting a comment on an article about a game that you know other people are looking forward to

  37. BossSnake

    • 11:09pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    Remember the time that this is the first response to criticism with profanity? I like it. It calls for it, nearly every time, though most feel that animosity would be a step in the wrong direction. His response to the criticism makes me want this game even more than before; if he's willing to go against public standard with a profantic response such as his, he must believe in it that much more than those who respond public-appropriate.

  38. O1d8oy

    • 11:11pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    @35 Your head is epmty, nothing more. Btw I assume that you played in heavy rain if you can make judgement like that. If you want mindless action go anb buy another fps.

    I've played in demo and if the story is really good the game will be worth every cent..

  39. 1solidsnake | solid1snake67

    • 11:25pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    heavy rain. ..  i've seen the trailer.  i'm going to have like 7 games i'm going to buy, and this isn't one of them.

  40. higgos22

    • 11:57pm BST - August 28th, 2009

    It sounds really good i was skeptical until i saw the e3 gameplay now i want it

  41. PSU_fail

    • 12:31am BST - August 29th, 2009

    I have a feeling he is going to become more vocal as release creeps up.

  42. Chaozhoutiger | Teochewtiger

    • 12:52am BST - August 29th, 2009

    Meh, I'll wait for overall reviews or a demo first before I make any further judgements..... Plus, I got to admit the 10 hrs of gameplay isn't doing it for me (way too short). I usually never replay a game unless its REALLY REALLY good. Oh yeah, Quantic Dream can't really blame people for believing it's only quicktime events since that's about all they shown to far. I mean, show me the goods. This is my OPINION, so no B*tching please lol

  43. Olly1234

    • 1:49am BST - August 29th, 2009

    jeez this game is all i see in the psu news now

  44. Alpha2

    • 2:24am BST - August 29th, 2009

    The problem is the first time you have to "press X to not die" is the second someone's going to call it a QTE and say that David is just wallowing in his own artistic ego. Yes you can control the character at all times... until you reach a combat scene against a character and then you have multiple paths you can take in quick succession with some of them being a possible final moment where you live or die. That first death that some reviewer encounters will cause the game to loose about 10 points in any review, and we all know it. It doesnt matter how good the game is in the end the reviews are going to urinate all over it just because it's not another effing FPS.

  45. coverlord | Drahgoon

    • 6:34am BST - August 29th, 2009

    How can you critisize these guys, I for 1 is stoked someone is going out and developing different games, Kudos to Sony and Quantic Dream.

  46. msw1970

    • 9:19am BST - August 29th, 2009

    maybe i'm old but a 10 hour game on isn't bad.  I'm looking forward to playing this as it will be something different. 

  47. taurus82 | taurus82

    • 10:20am BST - August 29th, 2009

    I'm definitely buying this BECAUSE it's basically a point & click adventure with QTE moments.

  48. Shau - Kenshin | Phantom-Rebirth

    • 12:50pm BST - August 29th, 2009

    Allright team,

    Here's the deal. As many of you know, the game is not out, nor is the demo for that matter. So what are these "critics" baseing their opinions on? They have painted themselves in a corner of not knowing whta the H-E (double hockey sticks) they're talking about... much like others who advise how bad the game is becasue of their quite FINITE information that they have based their opinions on.

    Indigo Prophecy?  Great friggen GAME. This was one of those "Think Outside The Box" games (Much like mirrors edge.. props to you jman12343 for bringing that up)

    Now we have TONS of FPS's and TONS more on the way. I understand the idea of if it aint broke dont fix it, but damn guys ... how many times do we have to shoot Nazi's before they get tired of getting shot ... oh wait ..lets do someting different .. lets make ZOMBIE NAZI'S... that'll get em goin... now its like they've traded nazi's for Middle Easterners.

    And it goes on an on ...

    Lets try a different game ... lets try something new ... lets try to make a game that is ... dare I say it ... outside the box. Hey I'm all for a GREAT FPS ... and they do come along every now and again... (Killzone 2, Crisis) but if thats all we have .. its like hittin skins with a fat chick .. you bucked one you've bucked them all ...the only different is how much you have to work to role her over ... and how much of the fat you have to wade thru to get to the wet spot....

    I'll support this one . You've got my $60. Let me know when its out Dave....

  49. doomsday666

    • 6:17pm BST - August 29th, 2009

    david it's the  media+,ign+gameinformer+gametrailers+fanboys= 360 trolls

  50. Ballonboy33

    • 9:47pm BST - August 29th, 2009

    probably xbox luvers getting peeded off that they dont have 3-d games. *****50*****

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