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taxman
11-19-2007, 14:03
100
GameSpy
It's a rare thing when a game comes along with the power to move a player emotionally... Mass Effect takes interactive entertainment to breathtaking new heights.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)


100
Pro-G
Mass Effect is a triumph. A triumph for the science fiction video game, a triumph for the action RPG and a triumph for next generation gaming. And it sets up the sequel perfectly. I want to know what happens next.
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100
GameDaily
The production values are incredible, with breathtaking worlds to explore, a huge cast of memorable characters (Wrex is awesome) and hours of missions and side quests to delve into. When it's all over, you'll go through it again and find something exciting and new. Mass Effect sets a new standard for sci-fi gaming.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)


100
MS Xbox World
I have had an excellent play time with Mass Effect thus far, and although the basic plot of the game's story is somewhat cliche for sci-fi, it's the execution that really has to be commended.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)


98
Planet Xbox 360
Other than the AI issues, graphical glitches, and insanely confusing equipment screen Mass Effect is the perfect video game. The storyline is right up there with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and we are can barely hold back our excitement to see what happens in the next two games.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3081)


98
GameZone
I can honestly say that the universe Bioware created is the best I have encountered since George Lucas created Star Wars. Never have I been compelled to find out everything there is to a storyline as I did with Mass Effect.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)


98
Game Informer
It's an adventure that is so captivating that you'll be counting the days for the sequel. It takes interactive storytelling to new heights, and brings the player closer to content than ever before. It's easily one of the year's best titles and one of the most impressive games to date. [Nov 2007, p.151]


96
Cheat Code Central
If I could only choose one game this holiday season, it would have to be Mass Effect... If you're looking for a title that tells a great story, is loaded with content, has a surprising amount of re-playability due to customization, and will keep you glued to your couch, Mass Effect is a great choice.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)


96
Team Xbox
One of the most cinematic games of all-time, something that's definitely helped by a fantastic story, great writing, movie-quality direction, and strong voiceover work.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)


96
GameTrailers
Involving, ambitious, and beautifully executed, Mass Effect is a powerful experience that has a lot to offer anyone who plays games as more than a casual diversion.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamereview.php?id=2211)


95
GamePro
The title's greatest strength is the way it completely wraps you in the main protagonist's skin, which is something more RPG games should strive to do. The game's staggering depth and complexity is also impressive, as is its accessibility.
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94
IGN
The cinematic design is nothing short of masterful. This is a game that takes the aspects of film that make cinema so compelling and crosses it with the interactivity of games with unprecedented success. Linear storytelling feels quaint by comparison.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)


92
Electronic Gaming Monthly
Far from being a ponderous sci-fi exposition, Mass Effect boasts a dynamic, well-constructed story with a broad emotional range. [Holiday 2007, p.82]


92
Gamer 2.0
It may be difficult for some to overlook the new combat system, but once you get a grip on it, and look past the shoddy vehicular combat, you’ll find a game worthy purchasing.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)


92
Xbox 360 Advanced
Mass Effect is an amazing game, one that will be remembered for a long time to come.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11718)


91
ActionTrip
The unprecedented level of cinematic quality, the fun combat coupled with the customary insightfulness of writing is what makes this game a must-have. It's what makes BioWare still stand out as one of the top in their field.
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90
Xbox World 360 Magazine UK
Never before has storytelling been so competently ingrained into a videogame, and never before has a player had so much freedom to dictate the course of a linear storyline. Mass Effect isn't the laser-spewing monolith of a game we expected it to be, but it is far, far, far from a disappointment. [Christmas 2007, p.56]
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)


90
Games Radar
When we finished Mass Effect the first time, the very next thing we did was start it all over again. It's clear that this is the beginning of a fantastic franchise, and we're already salivating over the possibilities for "Mass Effect II."
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90
Official Xbox Magazine UK
The astounding vistas of each planet combined with swelling synth chords and the cheesy sci-fi plots of Babylon 5, make this a game for lovers of sci-fi and RPG everywhere. Roll on the sequels!
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)


90
360 Gamer Magazine UK
Mass Effect is a rare example of a game that shouts about how many things it can do well for years and then actually delivers upon its promises on release. Every bit as good as it ever could be, this is right up there with the best of what the Xbox 360 both is capable of and has to offer.


90
1UP
I suppose the brilliance is that, however many times I watched a scene or fought a battle, Mass Effect never truly lost its magic.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)


90
GameTap
It's the very definition of "widescreen sci-fi," with its alien vistas, far-out music, and giant ideas. It begins with an ominous opening and ends with a fantastic finale that expertly intercuts between your individual actions with a massive space battle. It's the rare title where the first thing I did upon finishing was to select "new game."
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)


90
Yahoo! Games
Flawed though it is, Mass Effect is a tremendous ride. Sure, it overreaches from time to time, but better that than a game that toes the same, tired old RPG line. Nothing's sufficiently amiss here to prevent you from enjoying Mass Effect's class-leading gameplay, and it deserves to be remembered as the first truly great role-playing game of this generation.
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90
PALGN
BioWare have set a new standard in storytelling, and if you have even the faintest interest in RPGs or science fiction, then this game simply demands to be played. While there are some technical issues and awkward gameplay decisions that are hard to ignore, when it comes down to it, Mass Effect is so compelling that most people will be able to push the issues aside and immerse themselves in one of the most detailed game worlds every created.
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90
Games Master UK
A strong, robustly put-together RPG that for every shortcoming has a magical moment too. [Christmas 2007, p.56]

GameSpot
It's surprising that so many small annoyances and glitches made their way into a game of such general high quality. Still, most players will be able to look past them and enjoy Mass Effect for what it is: A terrific role-playing game with great production values and fun, exciting action.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?sid=6183119)

80
EuroGamer
Where it doesn't quite hit the mark for me is in the action stakes. Although it underpins the game with all sorts of excellent ideas that ought to make it a deeper, more intelligent and immersive experience, the simple truth is that the minute-to-minute combat simply isn't as intense and involving as you'd expect from a game in 2007.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)


80
Hardcore Gamer Magazine
As it is, it's merely very good on several different levels, and is more or less a must-play for RPG fans. It will drive shooter fans completely up the wall, though. [Dec 2007, p.56]

taxman
11-19-2007, 14:05
Framerate problems seems to be a noticeable problem

REFLEX
11-19-2007, 14:07
I never say this, except this once, although its a bit different.... I think that some reviewers in general over look or look too hard at somethings compared to others. I can imagine the small faults on this game weighing down others and hampering the score just a bit. I don't understand it, the review board needs to standardize a bit more I think.

Aquanox
11-19-2007, 14:11
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/704/masseffectqb2.png

TeamXbox Review.

It's official. One of the best lineups ever.

:arrow Source (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)

MossadAgentO
11-19-2007, 14:12
Thanks for posting this i cant wait. Reading now

Naxi
11-19-2007, 14:14
Grr, why isn't the game out here yet.

Dark Octave
11-19-2007, 14:22
These scores are exactly on par with what I felt Mass Effect would get. But I hoped it would do better than Bioshock.

One-Shot
11-19-2007, 14:27
This game is so awesome, only one day away now.

MiNiMaL_sAnItY
11-19-2007, 14:28
To the people playing the game now, is it more of a shooter or an rpg?

Calabrese
11-19-2007, 14:36
can we please keep this on topic? Thanks. [rikwakefield]

Aquanox
11-19-2007, 14:42
Gametrailers Rating: 9.6

Eurogamer once more against the crowd, 8/10 ...

GarthVaderUK
11-19-2007, 14:46
Want to turn this into a general Mass Effect reviews thread then? Here's a summary so far:

OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GamerTV: 5/5
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
Xbox World 360: 90%
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)

Express
11-19-2007, 14:53
Eurogamer once more against the crowd, 8/10 ...


Eurogamer has always been very harsh on games with noticeable flaws. Game reviewers now days seem to downplay flaws all too much. Just as in the IGN ME review.

Express

Sockpuppet
11-19-2007, 14:55
I never say this, except this once, although its a bit different.... I think that some reviewers in general over look or look too hard at somethings compared to others. I can imagine the small faults on this game weighing down others and hampering the score just a bit. I don't understand it, the review board needs to standardize a bit more I think.

It mainly only becomes a concern in context. The frame rate in Mass Effect dishisheartening lower than you'd really like but it doesn't exactly effect the gameplay itself. The gameplay being mostly RPG and with sporadic periods of combat isn't hugely effected in the same way a shooter or action orientated game might be.

Make no mistake I would be first to jump for joy if they improved the frame rate but in the greater spectrum of things the game isn't broken as it is. I'm extremely pedantic about frame rate myself so I would love a fix but such a thing is highly unlikely.

It reminds me of GTA and mostly SA. If you took any one particular aspect of the game and focussed on them, it would be very broken. Constant bugs, massive frame rate drops, simpistic 'RPG' level up mini games, poor controls, frustrating camera mechanics and a lock on system that is incredibly broken; individually all elements except for sound is pretty well busted but the game over all is greater as a package than the sum of it's broken parts.

Quiklywin
11-19-2007, 15:00
Great reviews so far, my friend is getting the game asap, cant wait to play it.

Sparc
11-19-2007, 15:06
I can't wait for this to turn up this week. I'm glad I've read the reviews and know about the glitches and frame rate problems because it sets your expectation before the game arrives.

As for Eurogamer. I think they do excellent reviews.

One-Shot
11-19-2007, 15:11
Everyone says that the technical glitches are something that can be passed by. Besides thats what patches are for.

unr3stricted
11-19-2007, 15:11
Eurogamer has always been very harsh on games with noticeable flaws. Game reviewers now days seem to downplay flaws all too much. Just as in the IGN ME review.

Express

Big flaws? While framerates can be rather annoying, that is NOT a big flaw, not for an RPG. For a racing game or even an FPS, yeah, but on an RPG it is not a "huge" flaw in any sense.

The biggest parts of RPG's are as follows:

Story
Gameplay
Longevity
Originality
Voice Acting
Combat

And apparently all those are amazing. Those are the parts that actually matter in a game, frame rates are annoying, but they wont make/break a game unless it is at an extreme, which it does not sound like Mass Effect is.

Aquanox
11-19-2007, 15:15
Oblivion also had its framerate issues but they were passable because of the nature of the game. It's basically the same with Mass Effect. If it didn't have those slowdowns, just imagine how high the scores would've been.

By the way, the game gives you the option to disable Cinema Grain Effect and Motion Blur, which helps with the framerate problems. In my experience motion blur is useless in these games so I'd probably got rid of it anynways.

Express
11-19-2007, 15:24
Big flaws? While framerates can be rather annoying, that is NOT a big flaw, not for an RPG. For a racing game or even an FPS, yeah, but on an RPG it is not a "huge" flaw in any sense.

The biggest parts of RPG's are as follows:

Story
Gameplay
Longevity
Originality
Voice Acting
Combat

And apparently all those are amazing. Those are the parts that actually matter in a game, frame rates are annoying, but they wont make/break a game unless it is at an extreme, which it does not sound like Mass Effect is.


I'm not just talking about the frame rates. There seem to be many other technical glitches as well. Texture pop-ins etc. Just like you can see on the gametrailers review.

IGN says the game has poor AI, which takes away a lot of the experience. And they don't seem to think the combat itself is so awesome...

While the story seems to be good and pretty lengthy, I don't understand why so high scores if the gameplay is not top notch.

Don't get me wrong, the gameplay is seems to be good, but not awesome...

Oh and btw it's 'nice' to see mods editing posts, when they don't like my opinion about things...

Aquanox
11-19-2007, 15:26
If you want to understand the game better in a short time, watch the Gametrailers Video Review, it's pretty good:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28091.html?type=

WMV: http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/2211/t_masseffect_vr_taco.wmv

Express
11-19-2007, 15:31
As for Eurogamer. I think they do excellent reviews.

Yup, some of the best reviews I think. One doesn't see many 10s from them, which is a good thing. And they never judge games from hype alone (which some sites seem to do...)

Sparc
11-19-2007, 15:36
I met a bloke in a pub. He doesn't own a console but he's played games before, and he told me it was coming to the 360.

Vampirtc
11-19-2007, 15:40
This is the best game I've played this year (I don't play many though) but I mostly play strategy and RPG games.

Story is great although copied from Babylon 5 (best TV series in my opinion). Especially good are the dialogs which are far less cheesy as usually in games. Game is long, I was at about 32 hours when I finished the game but I didn't do many quests some which are very tedious like looking for minerals all over the planet.
I loved the combat especially since it is a mix of action and RPG in other words your skills count too not just how big your gun is. There is tons of speech and barely any non spoken text. Graphics are great, no the best but still better as in say Halo 3. I didn't notice any serious problems with framerate. I liked the blur and grain effect too.

I didnt like that when I finished the game I couldn't do other quests I missed and since I saved the game during the last mission I can't go back. The combat did get a bit boring sometimes and some missions are too long (like one to two hours).

The Sith
11-19-2007, 15:41
There probably be an patch or somethin around the corner to fix some of the bugs.

Insanehead
11-19-2007, 15:59
8/10 from Eurogamer? That is still good news.

MossadAgentO
11-19-2007, 16:00
Gamespot 7.0 confirmed? lol they have to up the ante with eurogamer

hchaudh1
11-19-2007, 16:38
Ummm, riddlle me this, "Unfortunately, the engine can't keep up and slowdown is rampant."
"Combat is cumbersome". This is what I heard. The guy above me says there are AI problems also. How come its getting rave reviews across the board.

I am not trolling, I might get a warning/ban for this. But someone please try and explain the double standard here.

I am basically to the point where I look at an XBox game review and deduct a point from it. A lot of hype, not a whole lot of substance.

CushVA
11-19-2007, 16:44
"Combat is cumbersome". This is what I heard. The guy above me says there are AI problems also. How come its getting rave reviews across the board.


Both of those seem to vary. If you watch last weeks 1UP Show (and listen to 1UP Yours), they talk about how they liked the way combat works. As for the AI, some said they had problems with things like pathfinding, while others said it was fine when they played.

Copyright
11-19-2007, 16:59
My magazine, gamesmaster, gave it a 93%.

Sparc
11-19-2007, 17:14
Ummm, riddlle me this, "Unfortunately, the engine can't keep up and slowdown is rampant."
"Combat is cumbersome". This is what I heard. The guy above me says there are AI problems also. How come its getting rave reviews across the board.

I am not trolling, I might get a warning/ban for this. But someone please try and explain the double standard here.

I am basically to the point where I look at an XBox game review and deduct a point from it. A lot of hype, not a whole lot of substance.

I think the problem here is that you focus solely on what problems the game has and not on the substance you say it lacks. The game delivers on so many other fronts, it brings the best storyline engagement and narration, coupled with astounding voice acting, than any other game to date. It's made by Bioware - think back to the last bad RPG game they produced.....exactly! This is no different except that it moves the genre to a level in areas not seen before.

Hope that helps explain it a bit.

hchaudh1
11-19-2007, 17:20
Both of those seem to vary. If you watch last weeks 1UP Show (and listen to 1UP Yours), they talk about how they liked the way combat works. As for the AI, some said they had problems with things like pathfinding, while others said it was fine when they played.

I know what you are saying. And personally I am fine if there are a bit of AI issues, minor clipping or framerate stuff. Its a huge piece of code, and things fall through the cracks, no big deal. My point was more about the double standard that gaming rags employ when reviewing XBox games. Again, I am not saying that if a PS3 game gets low reviews, it does not deserve it. I am saying that XBox games, more often than not seem to get a free pass, and even some unfair boost.

georaldc
11-19-2007, 17:24
Your squadmates would sometimes get stuck behind doors. I dunno, its like the doors don't automatically open for the other guys with you if they get left behind a few steps. The combat though is pretty good, and it really feels like a 3rd person action shooter than an rpg once things heat up, but yeah the AI can be really stupid or annoying at times. I hate it when the enemies just run full force towards me and focus all they're shots at me, while my squadmates can't even shoot them properly lol. If they're not doing that, the enemies would just stand behind a box or wall waiting to be killed.

hchaudh1
11-19-2007, 17:29
I think the problem here is that you focus solely on what problems the game has and not on the substance you say it lacks. The game delivers on so many other fronts, it brings the best storyline engagement and narration, coupled with astounding voice acting, than any other game to date. It's made by Bioware - think back to the last bad RPG game they produced.....exactly! This is no different except that moves the genre to a level in areas not seen before.

Hope that helps explain it a bit.

I read about that also. How people are going gaga over the dialogue system. I was thinking it would be something like what you say during those cutscenes actually has an effect on the way the game is played. But from what I have seen/heard on gaming sites, your choice just results in a different cutscene. I would have been more excited if e.g. if I was disagreeing with a character, I could just ignore him, not include him in my party and play the game myself, my way. But that's not going to happen.

Its not all bad because implementing that kind of system leads to a lot of story fragmentation. Which leads to huge choices the devs have to code for, therefore huge budgets and delays etc. So, its not practical to implement what I was talking about.

But my problem is more with the fact that this dialogue system is again said to be something revolutionary, just like killing/not killing a girl in Bioshock was dubbed to be a moral choice. I don't have so much of a problem with the game. I might buy an XBox, again, just for this game. I pretty much have bought everything I wanted to buy for my PS3 except for Haze. So, I need some new games, if they are on the XBox, so be it. But my problem is more with the hype.

Carsonal
11-19-2007, 18:02
Dont like it, don't buy it.
Theres all your MF'ing problems solved.

I just discovered its due for release on thursday here, not wednesday.
Blast

CushVA
11-19-2007, 20:23
interesting comments from Kotaku:


http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php



By the time this article hits, most major reviews sites will have already dissected Bioware's latest creation, Mass Effect. I have no clue how it will be receieved-not that the game isn't great, which I'll explore in a moment-but whether or not reviews will find too many smal bugs, from texture pop-ins to the occasional glitch in a side mission/storyline to admit that the game is great.

Sparc
11-19-2007, 20:59
I read about that also. How people are going gaga over the dialogue system. I was thinking it would be something like what you say during those cutscenes actually has an effect on the way the game is played. But from what I have seen/heard on gaming sites, your choice just results in a different cutscene. I would have been more excited if e.g. if I was disagreeing with a character, I could just ignore him, not include him in my party and play the game myself, my way. But that's not going to happen.

Its not all bad because implementing that kind of system leads to a lot of story fragmentation. Which leads to huge choices the devs have to code for, therefore huge budgets and delays etc. So, its not practical to implement what I was talking about.

But my problem is more with the fact that this dialogue system is again said to be something revolutionary, just like killing/not killing a girl in Bioshock was dubbed to be a moral choice. I don't have so much of a problem with the game. I might buy an XBox, again, just for this game. I pretty much have bought everything I wanted to buy for my PS3 except for Haze. So, I need some new games, if they are on the XBox, so be it. But my problem is more with the hype.

Whether you decide to buy a 360 or not is of no interest to anyone in this thread. We don't care if you decide to get it based on this game or if you never get one ever. What's suspect here is that you are even in this thread if you have no interest in the game and no interest in the 360.

What confuses me most though is that you are you all excited about getting Haze, a bog standard FPS (I'm getting it too but I'm not expecting anything out of the ordinary or special from it), and yet you rag on a game like Mass Effect which definitely brings something more to storyline engagement than seen before. I have a suspicion that if Mass Effect was being released for the PS3 right now and not the 360 your posts would have a very different flavour - we both know I'm right ;)

GarthVaderUK
11-19-2007, 21:10
Update on the scores:

GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GameDaily: 10/10 (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)
GamerTV: 5/5
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
VideoGamer.com: 10/10 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)
GameZone: 9.8/10 (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
Cheat Code Central: 4.8/5 (http://www.cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
Gamer 2.0: 9.2/10 (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
1UP.com: 9/10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
OXM UK: 9/10 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
Xbox World 360: 90%
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)

MATRIX 2
11-19-2007, 21:43
I read about that also. How people are going gaga over the dialogue system. I was thinking it would be something like what you say during those cutscenes actually has an effect on the way the game is played. But from what I have seen/heard on gaming sites, your choice just results in a different cutscene. I would have been more excited if e.g. if I was disagreeing with a character, I could just ignore him, not include him in my party and play the game myself, my way. But that's not going to happen.

Its not all bad because implementing that kind of system leads to a lot of story fragmentation. Which leads to huge choices the devs have to code for, therefore huge budgets and delays etc. So, its not practical to implement what I was talking about.

But my problem is more with the fact that this dialogue system is again said to be something revolutionary, just like killing/not killing a girl in Bioshock was dubbed to be a moral choice. I don't have so much of a problem with the game. I might buy an XBox, again, just for this game. I pretty much have bought everything I wanted to buy for my PS3 except for Haze. So, I need some new games, if they are on the XBox, so be it. But my problem is more with the hype.


TXB had a chat with a storyline guy on mass effect, he tells you what you need to know
http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/2101/Mass-Effect-BioWares-Drew-Karpyshyn-Interview/p1/


Are there multiple endings?

Drew Karpyshyn: There are, actually. There is sort of a matrix of endings. Depending on what actions you take, we have four unique endings, and there are multiple ways to get to those endings…different paths, depending on where you go and when you go and who you side with.


Without spoiling anything, will it be apparent to the player, on replay, what they need to do to get the other endings?

Drew Karpyshyn: Yeah, I think it is important that, for the big details, players have to understand the consequences of their actions. It can’t feel random. What we tried to make sure we do is present them with choices that have logical conclusions. Now you might make a choice down the road…you might find out that it kind of backfired, but then we sort of give you a chance to fix that or keep it going in the “wrong” direction. If you replay the game, it’ll be pretty obvious to you that, “Okay, last time I did ‘A.’ This time I’m going to do ‘B,’ because I’m trying to get a different kind of reaction, a different ending.” It’s not something where we’ve hidden it and it’s like, “Oh, you said ‘Good morning’ instead of ‘Good afternoon’…so you get the different ending!” It’s definitely keyed into the player’s actions, so that their choices have meaning and consequences, [and] they understand what they are.




Wait for Yahtzee's review.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation

hchaudh1
11-19-2007, 22:21
Whether you decide to buy a 360 or not is of no interest to anyone in this thread. We don't care if you decide to get it based on this game or if you never get one ever. What's suspect here is that you are even in this thread if you have no interest in the game and no interest in the 360.

What confuses me most though is that you are you all excited about getting Haze, a bog standard FPS (I'm getting it too but I'm not expecting anything out of the ordinary or special from it), and yet you rag on a game like Mass Effect which definitely brings something more to storyline engagement than seen before. I have a suspicion that if Mass Effect was being released for the PS3 right now and not the 360 your posts would have a very different flavour - we both know I'm right ;)

I just mentioned my purchase of the XBox to say that I think this is going to be a good game and I am going to buy one for this game. If you are calling me a troll, please don't because I am not. I am 29 years old, I make enough money to buy a different console if I want to. Its not that I am a childish fanboy. I don't do that stuff.

I didn't say I am excited about Haze, just that I am going to get it because, so far, it looks like it will be a decent FPS.

If you read my previous posts in this thread, I am not ragging on Mass Effect simply because I know it will be a good game in the sense that it is a one of a kind game which I don't see on any other platform right now.

I took an issue with the reviews this game has been getting. As someone else posted, these are:
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
GameSpy: 5/5
GamerTV: 5/5
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10
Game Informer: 9.75/10
GameTrailers: 9.6/10
TeamXbox: 9.6
IGN: 9.4/10
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
CVG: 9/10
Gamesmaster: 90%
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5
Xbox World 360: 90%
Eurogamer: 8/10
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
PC World: 60%

Because from what I have been reading, this game has frame rate stuttering issues, AI not up to the mark, looong loading times, unpolished side quests, no online (from: http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php).

So why would a game like that get 10/10 and all that is beyond me when other games (PS3 games moreso but even games like AC) are held to a higher standard on the very same issues.

Aquanox
11-19-2007, 23:00
Because from what I have been reading, this game has frame rate stuttering issues, AI not up to the mark, looong loading times, unpolished side quests, no online (from: http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php).

So why would a game like that get 10/10 and all that is beyond me when other games (PS3 games moreso but even games like AC) are held to a higher standard on the very same issues.


That's false. It doesn't have long loading times, AI is just fine, not as good as action games but good enough for an RPG where Combat isn't as vital and I don't know what you're talking about with unpolished side quests.

Chemo
11-19-2007, 23:09
8/10 from Eurogamer? That is still good news.

hmmm....maybe they don't buy into the hype or the special gifts.

GarthVaderUK
11-19-2007, 23:15
A game can have technical issues but still be considered great.

Look at Oblivion or GTA 3 for example.

Edit: oh dear, are we really going back to the "Microsoft moneyhats the world" argument? Jesus Crysis.

Nunalho
11-19-2007, 23:20
This is the best game on the 360 imo, i love their work and i am a RPG fan, although this is more like a shooter it seems to have an incredible story.

The scores were expected.


That's false. It doesn't have long loading times, AI is just fine, not as good as action games but good enough for an RPG where Combat isn't as vital and I don't know what you're talking about with unpolished side quests.

LOL...sorry, but combat IS the most important factor on an RPG (apart from the story, of course) since you spend 80% of the time fighting and leveling up. :cool:

Carsonal
11-19-2007, 23:28
A game can have technical issues but still be considered great.

Look at Oblivion or GTA 3 for example.
.

LOL I remember good old GTA 3.
I was playing it on my birthday when I discovered that underground glitch and thought I had unlocked a bonus level.
Good times good times

skulpt
11-20-2007, 00:31
Guys. Let me tell you about one of the greatest games of all time for me. SotC. Did it have framerate problems? Big time. Was it still a masterpiece? For me and most who played it, yes. Don't let these framerate problems effect you all that much. While it is annoying as hell for me that other games seem to get penalized more for this issue than games that are hyped $$$, it shouldn't bother you all that much. This looks to be a great game, plain and simple. While reviews like UGO and PC world seem to be ripping into it, don't worry about it. Just enjoy the game.

Hey, who has the game yet? Some people like Aqua have obviously played it since you know about the AI and that sort of thing. You lucky dogs! :)

Brian

sorrow880
11-20-2007, 00:40
I think this game looks pretty darn good. I'll pick it up as soon as I get the extra cash--the $180 Rockband bundle is going to keep me from buying games for a little while.

Anyhow, I just got my Play Magazine and it gave Mass Effect an 8.5 and its only complaints were that the "characters personalities weren't developed well--aren't spectacular" (says everything looks gorgeous though) but some of their reactions to events are just ridiculous (lack normal reactions and feelings)--says it doesn't "have as much breadth & depth as previous Bioware games."

Eitherway, I think it looks great. Anyhow, definite "A" game.

wetowel
11-20-2007, 00:41
Yeah other then the framerate issues (Which were quite visible on most if not all gametrailer videos) this game will be great. I hate Halo, and bioshock didnt really appeal to me much but This and PGR4 may get me back on the 360 train.

Pootie-Tang
11-20-2007, 00:44
With the cons that were mentioned if this were a PS3 game it would have surely recieved a 8.5. BS if you ask me.

hchaudh1
11-20-2007, 00:57
It doesn't have long loading times, AI is just fine, not as good as action games but good enough for an RPG where Combat isn't as vital and I don't know what you're talking about with unpolished side quests.

I am just repeating what was mentioned in the Kotaku review(http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php). And Mark Wilson is a big time XBox fan, if he's saying these things are wrong, then I would say there's some merit to it. He does mention that the loading times are extremely long resulting in very long elevator rides. He says it could be because everything is being read off of the DVD. And all of my points about the AI and everything are taken straight from his post. He even has a comment about the dialogu system not having much of an effect on the immediate game most of the time as I mentioned earlier.

I have learnt not to trust game reviews because most of these sites are just trying to get more hits any which way they can. I go straight for user reviews. This review here mentions the same points (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-39591593&pid=930279)

But my post is not to pan the game at all. They are trying something new in on a current gen console. There will be issues and unbalanced things and what not. As *skulpt* said that there are tons of very good games with these issues. My favorite FPS is America's Army, which if you have played it, has pretty outdated graphics.

I am trying to point out the blatant bias in the gaming media when it comes to reviews that it has just gotten to the point where these people just flat out lie to suit their agenda. They are doing a disservice to their readers by letting their agendas getting involved with writing an honest piece. Well, maybe they are not. I mean some people are fans to the extreme and they look to using these reviews in their little contests of "look my wee-wee is bigger than yours".

taxman
11-20-2007, 01:38
I am trying to point out the blatant bias in the gaming media when it comes to reviews that it has just gotten to the point where these people just flat out lie to suit their agenda. They are doing a disservice to their readers by letting their agendas getting involved with writing an honest piece. Well, maybe they are not. I mean some people are fans to the extreme and they look to using these reviews in their little contests of "look my wee-wee is bigger than yours".

What fking bias? Let's look at this game. This is from devs who have given us more great games than all the others who got 90+ this year. This is a AAA game on biowares strength alone (pre-release). No doubt. Look at the reviews then. Great story,phenomenal voice acting and best written dialouges in a game. Most critics are calling this the best story in a game ever. Yet the score is bought down thanks to technical glitches. Noone is ignoring them. Infact, most reviewers were pointing that if it wasn't for those, this would be a perfect game. So instead of a 100 ,its getting a 90.

Although games like R&C and uncharted are very good games, they lack that certain "wow" factor. You need that certain extra mileage to turn great games into AAA material. Mass effect has plenty. The dialog system, facial animation and more importantly the story.

Inshort, if it wasn't for the technical glitches, this would be a perfect game for most. A 90 is no way showing bias esp when it could have easily been a 100 game with a lil more polish.Just wanna add, when all is said and done, this game reviews will avg to abt R&C and Uncharted numbers but there will be a lot more fans for this game than the other two. Technical issues, will bring the game down in the eyes of the reviewers but not the gamers.

Bakari
11-20-2007, 01:49
I'm pretty sure any Bioware RPG vet was expecting slowdowns :)

Jonnyblaze1991
11-20-2007, 02:20
LOL...sorry, but combat IS the most important factor on an RPG (apart from the story, of course) since you spend 80% of the time fighting and leveling up. :cool:
which rpg's do you play?? :confused:

Silver&black_Attack
11-20-2007, 02:28
I'm pretty sure any Bioware RPG vet was expecting slowdowns :)KOTOR had slowdown and some weird glitches, but it was one of the best games I've ever played.
I'm not missing Mass Effect because some of this minor stuff, i love Bioware , looking forward to this one.

surtur
11-20-2007, 02:30
interesting comments from Kotaku:


http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php



By the time this article hits, most major reviews sites will have already dissected Bioware's latest creation, Mass Effect. I have no clue how it will be receieved-not that the game isn't great, which I'll explore in a moment-but whether or not reviews will find too many smal bugs, from texture pop-ins to the occasional glitch in a side mission/storyline to admit that the game is great.
I think they need to get rid of the numbering system and just say:

"the game is crap don't play it!"

"the game is ok kinda boring rent it!"

"the game is good must rent it."

"the game is great buy it!"

"the game is awesome buy it and get one for your friend!"

"the game is perfect it is flawless buy two for yourself , one for your friend, get your grandma a copy and get your dog a system, a tv and a copy of this game yes it is that good."

i think it would help more people buy good games it seems that if a game is anything under a 9 it sucks and noone should buy it (or that is how people make it seem)
i remember many many games from NES, ps1, ps2 that were rated in the old magz with 6-7.5's and they turned out to be some of the greatest longest lasting games i ever played.
but from what i see with this review is yes it has flaws and if it has flaws they should take points off (be the same for all systems) give the game a 8--8.5 and also say that it is a must have killer game. it doesn't need 9-9.5's esp if it has flaws .
just state the pro's and cons and then tell me if i should check it out i don't need numbers.

SwitchBlade
11-20-2007, 03:42
People make too much of an issue out of technical problems that don't really affect the gameplay, if it makes you unable to play the game properly, then whine, piss, and moan all you want, if it doesn't then STFU....

Shrinnan
11-20-2007, 03:51
I'm pretty sure any Bioware RPG vet was expecting slowdowns :)

Lol, I'll probably be expecting more slowdown than what I actually get when I play the game. That IS one of Bioware's weaknesses, though - they need to delay the game until a lot of the slowdown is fixed, though KOTOR and Jade didn't bother me with their technical glitches and this won't either.


which rpg's do you play?? :confused:

At the very most, he could make a point about Western RPGs and the combat but not JRPGs. I definitely don't play JRPGs for combat (and I don't really play WRPGs for combat either, though WRPGs immensely beat JRPGs in combat).

This is what is great about games, there are so many different reasons to play games - for story and for the many different iterations of gameplay that is out there today. RPGs are the story ones, of course. I still say gameplay shouldn't be neglected, but I don't expect an RPG to innovate on combat when it's main goal is innovating in its RPG elements. Basically, as long as the combat is fun, I don't care. I don't expect the combat to leave me in awe, that I leave for the RPG elements and story presentation (which ME looks like it has loads of).

skulpt
11-20-2007, 04:16
While I agree somewhat, Gamespot had this to say, which also addresses Aquas claim about loading times...


There are some technical hitches, however. The framerate can dramatically dip at the worst possible times, and there is a lot of texture pop-in. There are also frequent load times--some of them hidden by elevator rides, others popping up in the midst of exploration.

Guys. It will be a great game. It will be a classic. But stop the BS and try and hide that this game has flaws. Aqua. Sorry. It does have a lot of loading going on. Will it make this game less than AAA? Of course not, but it's there. Stop making stuff up. And Switchblade. I'm sorry, but the framerates can effect the gameplay.

This game is AAA through and through, but some of you are doing no one any good by BSing or assuming that reviews are wrong. Just learn to take games for what they are with their awesomeness as well as their flaws. In the end, this is an AAA game that deserves a heck of a lot of praise, but it has issues. Luckily it's awesome enough to overcome those issues. SotC did, and so does this game.

Just enjoy a great game.

Brian




People make too much of an issue out of technical problems that don't really affect the gameplay, if it makes you unable to play the game properly, then whine, piss, and moan all you want, if it doesn't then STFU....

One-Shot
11-20-2007, 04:33
What? A 8.5 from gamespot? $ony must of paid them off :rolleyes:.

Their may be a few glitches here and there but that will not interfere with my gameplay. This looks like my goty and I am excited as ever for it.

Zen1man
11-20-2007, 05:06
Oblivion also had its framerate issues but they were passable because of the nature of the game. It's basically the same with Mass Effect. If it didn't have those slowdowns, just imagine how high the scores would've been.

By the way, the game gives you the option to disable Cinema Grain Effect and Motion Blur, which helps with the framerate problems. In my experience motion blur is useless in these games so I'd probably got rid of it anynways.

Yeah but I think I am getting impressed by the feeling that this game's framerate is even worse than Oblivion's.

However I trust reviewers, they always come close to and agree on my consciounse and I think most gamer's consciounses.

Now isn't this something? - Another steller title for the 360, she's on a roll alright, I can't remember any other time in history where a console had so many quality games/exclusives released within the span of a few months. I remember when a title like "Halo" was a once a year kind of experience, now they are spewing out game experiences of that calibre per month, games that leave half decade memory's.

As Fanboyish as it sounds, take it, because right now the 360 is definitly on a higher plain of game quality compared to the ps3, and with more than just one or two titles. In fact, recently it seems there has been nothing but exceptional quality arriving on the system.

Thats not to say there has not been such experiences on the PS3. I hear Uncharted is of that kind, but the PS3 needs more of them. Sony better throw more money at devs to get more exclusives and they had better hurry up with the mgs4, KZ2, and Final Fantasy...and they better not be merely cell-processed good graphics.

Christopher
11-20-2007, 05:46
That's false. It doesn't have long loading times, AI is just fine, not as good as action games but good enough for an RPG where Combat isn't as vital and I don't know what you're talking about with unpolished side quests.

Uh....so you've played the game already???

vorian
11-20-2007, 06:19
Hmmm - from someone who is DEEEEEEEEP in the game atm, my review score(based on the EDGE magazine scale) would be either 8 or 9....it's a tough call......

The game does have some technical difficulties. There are certainly loading times, some short, some long - remember, all the elevator scenes are loading screens, so bare that in mind. The detail level does pop in ala Halo 2. This happens in the party screen and at times when you are loading into a cut scene. Deal with it.

Both a substantially glaring issues. Both attributed to system ram more than likely(love to see it on Vista with at least 2G of ram). The levels can be very large at some points and 512Mb just doesn't cut it - disc streaming or not.

Bioware have drawn on KOTOR to such a degree it feels like you are playing that game at times - not such a bad thing for me as I rate both very highly. I do feel that Bioware could push that particular template a bit harder and I do think they have left quite a bit of room for themselves technically, for the sequels.

Look, thats just me nit-picking. The dissonant howl of the space winds as you are surveying Etatania(one of the hidden worlds) or Luna(our Moon) is melancholic to say the least. The feeling of awe and loneliness in deep space, all at once is something to be had for any fan of sci-fi. I'm heavily into the Dune series of books and there a certain resonances in Mass Effect that make it the more special for me.

So, my take is -

If you like contemporary sci-fi like Serenity or its spin off Firefly, rent Mass Effect.

If you like classic sci-fi like Arthur C. Clarke or Frank Herbert, buy Mass Effect.

These are my personal opinions having experienced 13 hours of the game so far and will definitely change as I play more of the game ;)

Anbu_Evolution
11-20-2007, 06:29
Ripten came out with their review and gave it a 8.3.
http://www.ripten.com/2007/11/20/mass-effect-review-360/

From what they said, my fears came true about this game. Too much talking and too little action. According to them, you have to play in 5 hours before the game start picking up (for example, planet hopping). Someone please tell me if this is true or not..

arthur56k
11-20-2007, 06:29
another killer app arrives, i always had high hopes for this title

vorian
11-20-2007, 06:33
Ripten came out with their review and gave it a 8.3.
http://www.ripten.com/2007/11/20/mass-effect-review-360/

From what they said, my fears came true about this game. Too much talking and too little action. According to them, you have to play in 5 hours before the game start picking up (for example, planet hopping). Someone please tell me if this is true or not..

Well they are way off base - it's more like 10 hours :)

...just j/k's

You could probably scream through it in 1-2 hours up to the stage the player gets to use the Galaxy Map. It's a major storyline element though, so there is a reason it's not available right from the start. Think about 'cutting your teeth' with your party and maybe completing a few 'essential' quests on Citadel before you get the Normandy...

Anbu_Evolution
11-20-2007, 06:38
Well they are way off base - it's more like 10 hours :)

...just j/k's

You could probably scream through it in 1-2 hours up to the stage the player gets to use the Galaxy Map. It's a major storyline element though, so there is a reason it's not available right from the start. Think about 'cutting your teeth' with your party and maybe completing a few 'essential' quests on Citadel before you get the Normandy...

Koo. :)

I might cancel my pre-order on this though. This was one of the reasons I got my Elite (along with GeoW, Bioshock and Halo 3) but now I might rent it first. If anything I'll just wait for Lost Odyssey instead.

Sparc
11-20-2007, 07:04
I took an issue with the reviews this game has been getting. As someone else posted, these are:
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
GameSpy: 5/5
GamerTV: 5/5
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10
Game Informer: 9.75/10
GameTrailers: 9.6/10
TeamXbox: 9.6
IGN: 9.4/10
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
CVG: 9/10
Gamesmaster: 90%
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5
Xbox World 360: 90%
Eurogamer: 8/10
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
PC World: 60%

Because from what I have been reading, this game has frame rate stuttering issues, AI not up to the mark, looong loading times, unpolished side quests, no online (from: http://kotaku.com/gaming/reviews/mass-effect-extended-impressionsok-review-324191.php).

So why would a game like that get 10/10 and all that is beyond me when other games (PS3 games moreso but even games like AC) are held to a higher standard on the very same issues.If you have a problem with so-called 'biased' reviews then go start a thread on it instead of hijacking someone else's thread on a game.

Btw, I never called you a troll, but if the cap fits...

arthur56k
11-20-2007, 07:09
If you have a problem with so-called 'biased' reviews then go start a thread on it instead of hijacking someone else's thread on a game.

Btw, I never called you a troll, but if the cap fits...
oh no you didnt
would have given you a plus rep, but have to really spread it first

CushVA
11-20-2007, 07:22
Ripten came out with their review and gave it a 8.3.
http://www.ripten.com/2007/11/20/mass-effect-review-360/

From what they said, my fears came true about this game. Too much talking and too little action. According to them, you have to play in 5 hours before the game start picking up (for example, planet hopping). Someone please tell me if this is true or not..

On EGM Live they said there was plenty of combat

Raziel123
11-20-2007, 08:03
lol @ aquanox's false remark.

maltrophstitan
11-20-2007, 08:52
I have bought Bioshock, halo 3, CoD4 and now i'll have mass effect and orange box before the end of November :shocked:
so many games for 360

MEMEROOT
11-20-2007, 09:14
The worst feature seems to be the AI. Here's hoping for patch heaven.

Sino
11-20-2007, 09:23
Really wishing I could use swords to kill those geth.

Sparc
11-20-2007, 09:52
The worst feature seems to be the AI. Here's hoping for patch heaven.
Agreed. This is more concerning to me than any of the technical glitches.

daggy
11-20-2007, 12:35
don't mean to disrespect, but the lack of lower scores in the thread makes me think this is seriously biased.

Here's some:

Gamespot: 8.5/10
Play: 8.5/10
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
PC World (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139724-page,1-c,games/article.html): 60%

Sparc
11-20-2007, 12:37
Yup. I agree that all scores should be listed

arfi-gorgona-O
11-20-2007, 12:40
After some hours of gameplay,i decided to stop playing it until they release a patch.The game REALLY needs it.I just cant play a game like this,its buggy like hell.And its actually the 1st console game that i feel it really needs a patch.And im not trying to downplay it,i think its an awesome game with a very nice plot.

PS:About the AI, a member of my team got stack behind a crate and refuse to follow me.But that doesn't seem to happen to all member of the team,weird...

Sparc
11-20-2007, 12:55
After some hours of gameplay,i decided to stop playing it until they release a patch.The game REALLY needs it.I just cant play a game like this,its buggy like hell.And its actually the 1st console game that i feel it really needs a patch.And im not trying to downplay it,i think its an awesome game with a very nice plot.

PS:About the AI, a member of my team got stack behind a crate and refuse to follow me.But that doesn't seem to happen to all member of the team,weird...

The AI is worrying me now.

Bummer that you have felt you need to wait for a patch. Sounds like the issues can seriously affect the game play. I get the game on Friday (****! Thought it was Weds until I just checked) and I have to admit I'm somewhat concerned now.:|

Infinite Daremo
11-20-2007, 13:16
Not getting the game till Xmas so no worries here. Bioware were always prompt with PC patches anyways. But after playing and completing a game like Two Worlds i doubt the Mass Effect problem will bother me :D

MEMEROOT
11-20-2007, 13:37
Infinite Daremo I'm very impressed, from what I heard 2 worlds was trully terrible.

GarthVaderUK
11-20-2007, 13:39
Updated Scores Summary:

GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GameDaily: 10/10 (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)
GamerTV: 5/5
MS Xbox World: 10/10 (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
VideoGamer.com: 10/10 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)
GameZone: 9.8/10 (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
Cheat Code Central: 4.8/5 (http://www.cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6/10 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
Gamer 2.0: 9.2/10 (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
IGN UK: 9.1/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/836/836263p1.html)
1UP.com: 9/10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
OXM UK: 9/10 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
GameTap: 9/10 (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)
Xbox World 360: 90%
GameSpot: 8.5/10 (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review)
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
Slashdot: 4/5 (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/19/0858206)
PC World: 60% (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139724-page,1-c,games/article.html)

Only 5 reviews under 90%, averaging 93.2% on GameRankings.
Looks like we've got another top quality 360 game here :)

305_monzii
11-20-2007, 13:57
gamespot gave it a 8.5!!! thats such bs..im goin to pick this up as soon as gamestop opens

Infinite Daremo
11-20-2007, 13:58
Wonder when the SDF review is coming out :D

potestas
11-20-2007, 14:01
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arfi-gorgona-O
11-20-2007, 14:26
The AI is worrying me now.

Bummer that you have felt you need to wait for a patch. Sounds like the issues can seriously affect the game play. I get the game on Friday (****! Thought it was Weds until I just checked) and I have to admit I'm somewhat concerned now.:|


Well they are,at least for me.Its a very good game and i prefer to play it without those issues if i can...So i decided to wait.Some others may not...But my suggestion to everyone is to buy the game.Cause its a good game.

GarthVaderUK
11-20-2007, 14:30
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Aquanox
11-20-2007, 14:48
gamespot gave it a 8.5!!! thats such bs..im goin to pick this up as soon as gamestop opens

Gamespot has become quite tough for some reviews. They gave Uncharted 8/10 but anyways, they have their own reasons.

Overall, they still believe it's a fantastic game:


It's surprising that so many small annoyances and glitches made their way into a game of such general high quality. Still, most players will be able to look past them and enjoy Mass Effect for what it is: A terrific role-playing game with great production values and fun, exciting action.

100
GameSpy
It's a rare thing when a game comes along with the power to move a player emotionally... Mass Effect takes interactive entertainment to breathtaking new heights.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)


100
Pro-G
Mass Effect is a triumph. A triumph for the science fiction video game, a triumph for the action RPG and a triumph for next generation gaming. And it sets up the sequel perfectly. I want to know what happens next.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)


100
GameDaily
The production values are incredible, with breathtaking worlds to explore, a huge cast of memorable characters (Wrex is awesome) and hours of missions and side quests to delve into. When it's all over, you'll go through it again and find something exciting and new. Mass Effect sets a new standard for sci-fi gaming.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)


100
MS Xbox World
I have had an excellent play time with Mass Effect thus far, and although the basic plot of the game's story is somewhat cliche for sci-fi, it's the execution that really has to be commended.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)


98
Planet Xbox 360
Other than the AI issues, graphical glitches, and insanely confusing equipment screen Mass Effect is the perfect video game. The storyline is right up there with Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and we are can barely hold back our excitement to see what happens in the next two games.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3081)


98
GameZone
I can honestly say that the universe Bioware created is the best I have encountered since George Lucas created Star Wars. Never have I been compelled to find out everything there is to a storyline as I did with Mass Effect.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)


98
Game Informer
It's an adventure that is so captivating that you'll be counting the days for the sequel. It takes interactive storytelling to new heights, and brings the player closer to content than ever before. It's easily one of the year's best titles and one of the most impressive games to date. [Nov 2007, p.151]


96
Cheat Code Central
If I could only choose one game this holiday season, it would have to be Mass Effect... If you're looking for a title that tells a great story, is loaded with content, has a surprising amount of re-playability due to customization, and will keep you glued to your couch, Mass Effect is a great choice.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)


96
Team Xbox
One of the most cinematic games of all-time, something that's definitely helped by a fantastic story, great writing, movie-quality direction, and strong voiceover work.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)


96
GameTrailers
Involving, ambitious, and beautifully executed, Mass Effect is a powerful experience that has a lot to offer anyone who plays games as more than a casual diversion.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamereview.php?id=2211)


95
GamePro
The title's greatest strength is the way it completely wraps you in the main protagonist's skin, which is something more RPG games should strive to do. The game's staggering depth and complexity is also impressive, as is its accessibility.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/148788.shtml)


94
IGN
The cinematic design is nothing short of masterful. This is a game that takes the aspects of film that make cinema so compelling and crosses it with the interactivity of games with unprecedented success. Linear storytelling feels quaint by comparison.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)


92
Electronic Gaming Monthly
Far from being a ponderous sci-fi exposition, Mass Effect boasts a dynamic, well-constructed story with a broad emotional range. [Holiday 2007, p.82]


92
Gamer 2.0
It may be difficult for some to overlook the new combat system, but once you get a grip on it, and look past the shoddy vehicular combat, you’ll find a game worthy purchasing.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)


92
Xbox 360 Advanced
Mass Effect is an amazing game, one that will be remembered for a long time to come.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11718)


91
ActionTrip
The unprecedented level of cinematic quality, the fun combat coupled with the customary insightfulness of writing is what makes this game a must-have. It's what makes BioWare still stand out as one of the top in their field.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/360/masseffect.phtml)


90
Xbox World 360 Magazine UK
Never before has storytelling been so competently ingrained into a videogame, and never before has a player had so much freedom to dictate the course of a linear storyline. Mass Effect isn't the laser-spewing monolith of a game we expected it to be, but it is far, far, far from a disappointment. [Christmas 2007, p.56]
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)


90
Games Radar
When we finished Mass Effect the first time, the very next thing we did was start it all over again. It's clear that this is the beginning of a fantastic franchise, and we're already salivating over the possibilities for "Mass Effect II."
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20071118143959234064&sectionId=1000&releaseId=2005138888000000020740)


90
Official Xbox Magazine UK
The astounding vistas of each planet combined with swelling synth chords and the cheesy sci-fi plots of Babylon 5, make this a game for lovers of sci-fi and RPG everywhere. Roll on the sequels!
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)


90
360 Gamer Magazine UK
Mass Effect is a rare example of a game that shouts about how many things it can do well for years and then actually delivers upon its promises on release. Every bit as good as it ever could be, this is right up there with the best of what the Xbox 360 both is capable of and has to offer.


90
1UP
I suppose the brilliance is that, however many times I watched a scene or fought a battle, Mass Effect never truly lost its magic.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)


90
GameTap
It's the very definition of "widescreen sci-fi," with its alien vistas, far-out music, and giant ideas. It begins with an ominous opening and ends with a fantastic finale that expertly intercuts between your individual actions with a massive space battle. It's the rare title where the first thing I did upon finishing was to select "new game."
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)


90
Yahoo! Games
Flawed though it is, Mass Effect is a tremendous ride. Sure, it overreaches from time to time, but better that than a game that toes the same, tired old RPG line. Nothing's sufficiently amiss here to prevent you from enjoying Mass Effect's class-leading gameplay, and it deserves to be remembered as the first truly great role-playing game of this generation.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/mass-effect/review-1171001)


90
PALGN
BioWare have set a new standard in storytelling, and if you have even the faintest interest in RPGs or science fiction, then this game simply demands to be played. While there are some technical issues and awkward gameplay decisions that are hard to ignore, when it comes down to it, Mass Effect is so compelling that most people will be able to push the issues aside and immerse themselves in one of the most detailed game worlds every created.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=9558&sid=bee9d2c4b707c48bad6d9534af94246d)


90
Games Master UK
A strong, robustly put-together RPG that for every shortcoming has a magical moment too. [Christmas 2007, p.56]

GameSpot
It's surprising that so many small annoyances and glitches made their way into a game of such general high quality. Still, most players will be able to look past them and enjoy Mass Effect for what it is: A terrific role-playing game with great production values and fun, exciting action.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?sid=6183119)

80
EuroGamer
Where it doesn't quite hit the mark for me is in the action stakes. Although it underpins the game with all sorts of excellent ideas that ought to make it a deeper, more intelligent and immersive experience, the simple truth is that the minute-to-minute combat simply isn't as intense and involving as you'd expect from a game in 2007.
http://www.metacritic.com/_images/readreview.gif (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)


80
Hardcore Gamer Magazine
As it is, it's merely very good on several different levels, and is more or less a must-play for RPG fans. It will drive shooter fans completely up the wall, though. [Dec 2007, p.56]

GarthVaderUK
11-20-2007, 15:38
Looks like I was missing a few of those reviews Aquanox, here's the new summary:

GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GameDaily: 10/10 (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)
GamerTV: 5/5
MS Xbox World: 10/10 (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
VideoGamer.com: 10/10 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)
GameZone: 9.8/10 (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)
Planet Xbox 360: 9.8/10 (http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3081)
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
Cheat Code Central: 4.8/5 (http://www.cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6/10 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
GamePro: 4.75/5 (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/148788.shtml)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
Gamer 2.0: 9.2/10 (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)
Xbox 360 Advanced: 9.2/10 (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11718)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
ActionTrip: 91% (http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/360/masseffect.phtml)
IGN UK: 9.1/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/836/836263p1.html)
1UP.com: 9/10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)
360 Gamer: 9/10
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
GamesRadar: 9/10 (http://gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20071118143959234064&sectionId=1000&releaseId=2005138888000000020740)
GameTap: 9/10 (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)
OXM UK: 9/10 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)
PALGN: 9/10 (http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=9558&sid=bee9d2c4b707c48bad6d9534af94246d)
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
Xbox World 360: 90%
Yahoo! Games: 4.5/5 (http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/mass-effect/review-1171001)
GameSpot: 8.5/10 (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review)
UGO: B+ (http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=18035)
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
Slashdot: 4/5 (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/19/0858206)
PC World: 60% (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139724-page,1-c,games/article.html)

skulpt
11-20-2007, 15:56
The PC world review is silly. There's no way this game is a 60%. I'm also not sure how to rate it, but UGO has given it a B+. Who knows what that translates into.

Brian




Looks like I was missing a few of those reviews Aquanox, here's the new summary:

GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GameDaily: 10/10 (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)
GamerTV: 5/5
MS Xbox World: 10/10 (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
VideoGamer.com: 10/10 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)
GameZone: 9.8/10 (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)
Planet Xbox 360: 9.8/10 (http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3081)
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
Cheat Code Central: 4.8/5 (http://www.cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6/10 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
GamePro: 4.75/5 (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/148788.shtml)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
Gamer 2.0: 9.2/10 (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)
Xbox 360 Advanced: 9.2/10 (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11718)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
ActionTrip: 91% (http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/360/masseffect.phtml)
IGN UK: 9.1/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/836/836263p1.html)
1UP.com: 9/10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)
360 Gamer: 9/10
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
GamesRadar: 9/10 (http://gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20071118143959234064&sectionId=1000&releaseId=2005138888000000020740)
GameTap: 9/10 (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)
OXM UK: 9/10 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)
PALGN: 9/10 (http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=9558&sid=bee9d2c4b707c48bad6d9534af94246d)
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
Xbox World 360: 90%
Yahoo! Games: 4.5/5 (http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/mass-effect/review-1171001)
GameSpot: 8.5/10 (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review)
UGO: B+ (http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=18035)
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
Slashdot: 4/5 (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/19/0858206)
PC World: 60% (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139724-page,1-c,games/article.html)

arfi-gorgona-O
11-20-2007, 16:10
I didn't read the review,but they might gave it 60 because of the issues it has.It might be a very good game but the issues are really annoying.I would give it,like a 65 until they got it right...Soon hopefully cause i want to play it :(

MossadAgentO
11-20-2007, 16:46
Loll at PC world review (its a xbox 360 game why did they suddenly decide to "review" mass effect and 360 games

hchaudh1
11-20-2007, 18:00
If you have a problem with so-called 'biased' reviews then go start a thread on it instead of hijacking someone else's thread on a game.

Btw, I never called you a troll, but if the cap fits...

I truly do apologize for:

1. Having a differnt point of view.
2. Everyone's XBox baby not shaping out to be perfect.

Yeah, its all my fault. I have pointed out time and again that I don't think its a big deal that a game has these flaws, games do. Even Uncharted has some delay sometimes when streaming the high-res textures at the start of a cutscene. I also said that Mass Effect looks like a great game for all of its weapons and equipment upgrades, story line etc. But you just took exception to my comment about reviewers not being completely upfront when reviewing a game.

Last time I checked, the title of this thread is, "Mass Effect Reviews Thread: IGN 9.4, TXB 9.6, GT 9.6"
I don't remember reading anything in the rulebook that you can only post to this thread if you have something positive to say. Which I did, but you conveniently overlooked that just because I dared to question the all mighty Mass Effect.

Chemo
11-20-2007, 18:28
carefull there buddy i once had the audacity of questioning the integrity and greatness of the mighty Halo 3 and believe me it was like diving head-first into sound river bed full of crocodiles......i didn't come out of it unscathed.

Infinite Daremo
11-20-2007, 18:35
2. Everyone's XBox baby not shaping out to be perfect.

No game is perfect, but a 92% gamesranking game is impressive. Whine about the game all you want but the mass majority of reviewers like this game. Now go cry in the corner because theres nothing you can do about it except bitch on a forum.

EncoreEncore
11-20-2007, 18:50
I hope a demo of this game is on its was to XBlive soon.

hchaudh1
11-20-2007, 19:05
No game is perfect, but a 92% gamesranking game is impressive. Whine about the game all you want but the mass majority of reviewers like this game. Now go cry in the corner because theres nothing you can do about it except bitch on a forum.

I never thought such old posters on this forums would be so childish. First of all, take a deep breath and read my posts on this very thread. I have said throughout that all games have flaws and so does this. Even so, it would be a pretty decent game. I did see the videos on GT and I really liked the weapon/equipment upgrade system. I am not too hot about the dialog system but whatever. The graphics are nice, the story is good, that's good enough.

But that does not excuse the fact that the reviews are just plain wrong. And people do know this.

This is an example posting from the Kotaku review by Mark Wilson.



Basically, you're reviewing the game by:

A) Pointing out the game's shortcomings.

"...reviewers will find too many small bugs, from texture pop-ins to the occasional glitch in a side mission/storyline..."

B) Making excuses for the game's shortcomings.

"Hopefully the public will see these idiosyncrasies as a natural byproduct of pushing a system to its limits, the sweat on a sprinting athlete or burp after a good meal."

C) Openly admitting that you reject the idea that the game is short of amazing for any reason.

"I have no clue how it will be received... I don't really know, and I don't really care."

I find it particularly cute how you refer to the games technical shortcomings as "idiosyncrasies" (something that is normally referred to as "flaws").

I'm not saying that Mass Effect isn't a great game, because I'm almost positive it is. It's original (and purty) and will create, at the very least, a strong niche following.

I'm just interested in seeing if, when reviewing certain other games, you decide to look through the same rose-tinted lens.


I am not going to post all the problems people are having with this game as I already posted them earlier on this thread.

See, here's the thing. I like to make up my mind for myself instead of going to the reviewers. Call me crazy.

How about people start holding these reviewers to task instead of attacking members of their own community.

People need to stop taking offense on any conflicting view. You know the reason I don't go to sites like Digg etc. for my reviews and instead come here. Its so that I can avoid flamers and stupidity.

Sparc
11-20-2007, 19:12
I truly do apologize for:

1. Having a differnt point of view.
2. Everyone's XBox baby not shaping out to be perfect.

Yeah, its all my fault. I have pointed out time and again that I don't think its a big deal that a game has these flaws, games do. Even Uncharted has some delay sometimes when streaming the high-res textures at the start of a cutscene. I also said that Mass Effect looks like a great game for all of its weapons and equipment upgrades, story line etc. But you just took exception to my comment about reviewers not being completely upfront when reviewing a game.

Last time I checked, the title of this thread is, "Mass Effect Reviews Thread: IGN 9.4, TXB 9.6, GT 9.6"
I don't remember reading anything in the rulebook that you can only post to this thread if you have something positive to say. Which I did, but you conveniently overlooked that just because I dared to question the all mighty Mass Effect.

Apology accepted. Now let's move on and no more of your incessant whining about biased reviewers *yawn*

hchaudh1
11-20-2007, 19:38
Apology accepted. Now let's move on and no more of your incessant whining about biased reviewers *yawn*

So, that's settled then. I won't "whine" as long as acne faced little ones don't rush out to spread lies and try to discredit every opposing viewpoint as a troll.

Infinite Daremo
11-20-2007, 19:39
I never thought such old posters on this forums would be so childish.

Im only 21 on saturday :( Now i feel old.

hchaudh1
11-20-2007, 19:49
Im only 21 on saturday :( Now i feel old.

Well Happy B'Day to you. LOL, I know what you mean. There was a time when I used to think 25-30 year olds were sooo old. Probably that's what you are thinking right now, you bas***rd (just a Peter Griffin reference) :-D

Sparc
11-20-2007, 19:52
So, that's settled then. I won't "whine" as long as acne faced little ones don't rush out to spread lies and try to discredit every opposing viewpoint as a troll.

You're whining now.

Too many sob stories in these forums about 'biased' this, and 'paid off' that. The mental age of some people here is well below that of acne covered teenies.

skulpt
11-20-2007, 20:53
Since Aqua closed my thread about the side missions (even when REAL mods didn't BTW and even posted before you did) I'll post about the side missions here:

------------

It looks like they reused the same assets over and over and over again in Mass Effect. In this case, they are using entire location layouts over and over and over again for the exploration part of the game in ALL the side quests. Read on. :/

From Slashdot:



The hitch with exploration: those explorable outposts (where on-foot combat regularly takes place) are very limited in floorplan. Once you've seen 'the mine', 'the building', 'the other building' and 'the cargo ship', you've essentially memorized the floor plans for EVERY explorable area in-game. The design team did a bang-up job making the insides look different from each other, but fundamentally the floor plans are all exactly the same; it even gets to the point where you probably know where the loot is in the building.

From Gametap:



Alas, despite that variety, side quests display one significant weakness: Since they aren't quite as developed as the story ones, they tend to take place in cookie-cutter environments. A mercenary enclave has the same layout as a research base and a cult compound in other parts of the galaxy.


From Gamespot. Not just the outposts, but caverns as well:



There are also a few small frustrations and peculiarities we were surprised to see in such a major game. Organizing, comparing and managing your inventory is a huge mess. One particular cavern map is reused over and over on different planets.


So out of a huge galaxy with load and loads of planets, there are essentially 4 buildings with the exact same floor plans for outposts, and the same caverns to "explore".

This game still has AAA written all over it because of the story and visuals, but I think the exploration part of the game has been totally BS'd by Bioware if true. Oblivion got a bit repetitive for me because of the same textures being used, and same voices. Mass Effect takes it further by using the exact same floor plans and exact same caverns?.... What's the point of "exploring" an area when you already know how everything is laid out?

I still say it's the best RPG of the year, and one of the best games of the year, but I think the 1UP podcast maybe was right about the side missions. I think Bioware needs to rethink the term "exploration". And no. I won't go into the fact that the DVD9 was almost maxed with this game, and that they had to reuse entire areas potentially 100 times each (considering there are apparently 100s of planets to "explore").

Brian

ptrainpope
11-20-2007, 21:11
I just played through Eden Prime and I have to say my heart raced like a kid in a candy store for the first time playing a game in a long time... it felt more as if I was a participant in a movie than someone playing a video game... I like Uncharted a lot... I think Heavenly Sword was vastly underrated... Bioshock knocked me senseless.... and I spent over 100 hours slobbering over Blue Dragon... but nothing comes close to my experience so far with Mass Effect... game of the year my butt... BEST.GAME.EVER. maybe...

Strung Out
11-20-2007, 21:13
I just played through Eden Prime and I have to say my heart raced like a kid in a candy store for the first time playing a game in a long time... it felt more as if I was a participant in a movie than someone playing a video game... I like Uncharted a lot... I think Heavenly Sword was vastly underrated... Bioshock knocked me senseless.... and I spent over 100 hours slobbering over Blue Dragon... but nothing comes close to my experience so far with Mass Effect... game of the year my butt... BEST.GAME.EVER. maybe...

wtf are you on? side missions are short and repetative and there are biased reviewers everywhere. Quit de-railing this review thread!

Yes that was sarcasm.

Express
11-20-2007, 21:28
This game still has AAA written all over it because of the story and visuals, but I think the exploration part of the game has been totally BS'd by Bioware if true. Oblivion got a bit repetitive for me because of the same textures being used, and same voices. Mass Effect takes it further by using the exact same floor plans and exact same caverns?.... What's the point of "exploring" an area when you already know how everything is laid out?

I still say it's the best RPG of the year, and one of the best games of the year, but I think the 1UP podcast maybe was right about the side missions. I think Bioware needs to rethink the term "exploration". And no. I won't go into the fact that the DVD9 was almost maxed with this game, and that they had to reuse entire areas potentially 100 times each (considering there are apparently 100s of planets to "explore").

Brian

Nice post. I agree with you on every point. This game surely is AAA caliber, but it's kinda funny that sites rate it 10/10. The game's far from perfect with all the re-used assets and glitches. Probably the best RPG of the year (not that many huge were released besides this), but far from perfect.

I hope that they'll fix the biggest glitches with a patch soon... Still one can only fix so much with patches..

Express

Infinite Daremo
11-20-2007, 21:41
Since Aqua closed my thread about the side missions (even when REAL mods didn't BTW and even posted before you did) I'll post about the side missions here:

Thats probablys because you posted information within reviews focusing on a negative aspect when this thread would have sufficed for it, heck theres people discussing AI and framerate drops without resorting to slandering the 360 which is a first. All that thread did was give people motive to whine nitpick at DVD9 by the obvious boisterous title it was given.

exYle
11-21-2007, 00:26
You know, since this kind of is the Main Mass Effect discussion topic, I'll just ask my question here: <br />
<br />
Where the hell is the last charge on Eden Prime? I've defeated all the enemies, which netted...

zero1661
11-21-2007, 01:24
just follow your radar, I had trouble finding it too, it was behind a big ass pillar you most likely went right past it if you reach the beacon you have passed it.

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 04:39
This game is simply awesome. Main quest is awesome, combat is awesome, side quests so far are awesome, the only complaint I would have is some Fps problems but they really aren't as bad as I thought they were going to be. Ok enough of this I need to go back and play. To sum this up, buy this game.....now.

exYle
11-21-2007, 05:55
just follow your radar, I had trouble finding it too, it was behind a big ass pillar you most likely went right past it if you reach the beacon you have passed it.

Thanks. I hadn't realized I had been passing it for quite some time now!

Christopher
11-21-2007, 06:14
I'm going to post this here since Aqua will close any thread with a hint of negativity towards the 360 or a 360 games. What the hell is with the constant freezing and stuttering in Mass Effect? It happened three times in the first mission in my three day old Xbox 360. Absolutely ridiculous.

Christopher
11-21-2007, 06:19
This game is simply awesome. Main quest is awesome, combat is awesome, side quests so far are awesome, the only complaint I would have is some Fps problems but they really aren't as bad as I thought they were going to be. Ok enough of this I need to go back and play. To sum this up, buy this game.....now.

It is good. It is not awesome. The graphics are good if you like mannequins. Seriously, I must have gotten totally spoiled with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword cuz the character animations in Mass Effect are nowhere near as good as those games. The environments look great though. The combat? Maybe I"m missing something. Its a shooter. What is so great about it? The story is looking really good, but the voice acting and dialogue is below average.

My biggest gripe is the freezing, but I already posted about that.

Christopher
11-21-2007, 06:25
Thats probablys because you posted information within reviews focusing on a negative aspect when this thread would have sufficed for it, heck theres people discussing AI and framerate drops without resorting to slandering the 360 which is a first. All that thread did was give people motive to whine nitpick at DVD9 by the obvious boisterous title it was given.

BS. Fact is that if Aquanox doesn't personally agree with what is being posted, the thread is toast. It has happened time and time again and frankly, this BS needs to stop.

vorian
11-21-2007, 06:27
I'll take this opportunity to point out a HUGE flaw in the game. Its not a gameplay dynamic so don't worry about that.

Mass Effect has an item limit of 150. The game will warn you at around 140 that you have 10 item slots to go or so. If you collect over that limit the game forces you to convert your most recent items to omni-gel. This really pissed me off last night as I had finished a mission and had around 30 items(armor, ammo upgrades) I was forced to convert to omni-gel. All these items were of a higher level than the ones equipped to my party.

So I had Tracking IV + Shredder IV on my shotty, was awarded items in bulk when I finished the mission, but because the awarded items clocked me well over the 150 limit I was forced to convert Level V/VI/VII items to omni-gel.

Not very smart there Bioware :(

Maybe I have this wrong and there is something in the game I am missing, but beware with this issue - it really got my blood up to say the least....

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 08:13
It is good. It is not awesome. The graphics are good if you like mannequins. Seriously, I must have gotten totally spoiled with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword cuz the character animations in Mass Effect are nowhere near as good as those games. The environments look great though. The combat? Maybe I"m missing something. Its a shooter. What is so great about it? The story is looking really good, but the voice acting and dialogue is below average.

My biggest gripe is the freezing, but I already posted about that.

LOL you really don't sound like someone who actually has the game. If you really think the facial animations, voice acting and dialog is bad then something is wrong with you or your speakers. I also really haven't had to much of a issue with freezing or anything like that. I only get a real noticable drop every once and awhile. Maybe I have a super 360 or something. Oh yeah and I don't think you are suppose to triple post...

arfi-gorgona-O
11-21-2007, 09:06
About the freezing...if once in awhile is that every minute (if not like 10-20 sec..)you get at least one then you are right.As i saw from the responses not all people are sensitive about the game problems (that are very serious in my book).Thats good....i wish i wouldn't be so sensitive too.But sadly i am.And that ruins my game experience to the point to stop and wait for a patch.

MossadAgentO
11-21-2007, 09:18
LOL you really don't sound like someone who actually has the game. If you really think the facial animations, voice acting and dialog is bad then something is wrong with you or your speakers. I also really haven't had to much of a issue with freezing or anything like that. I only get a real noticable drop every once and awhile. Maybe I have a super 360 or something. Oh yeah and I don't think you are suppose to triple post...

lol i agree. He seems to have it alongside everyone on here who had it 6 days befor release except he is smart enough to wait for release to thrash a game he did not play

arfi-gorgona-O
11-21-2007, 09:37
Yeah the only problem with your assumption is,that you can easily see if someone has the game from their game tags ;)

garyfitz
11-21-2007, 12:14
Has anyone tried turning off the grain filter in Display settings to see if it helps the framerate? I believe it's set to ON by default. (Game not out till Friday here)


I'll take this opportunity to point out a HUGE flaw in the game. Its not a gameplay dynamic so don't worry about that.

Mass Effect has an item limit of 150. The game will warn you at around 140 that you have 10 item slots to go or so. If you collect over that limit the game forces you to convert your most recent items to omni-gel. This really pissed me off last night as I had finished a mission and had around 30 items(armor, ammo upgrades) I was forced to convert to omni-gel. All these items were of a higher level than the ones equipped to my party.

So I had Tracking IV + Shredder IV on my shotty, was awarded items in bulk when I finished the mission, but because the awarded items clocked me well over the 150 limit I was forced to convert Level V/VI/VII items to omni-gel.

I hate item limits. I guess you'll just have to be smart with your inventory, and sell the bits you dont want ASAP


It is good. It is not awesome. The graphics are good if you like mannequins. Seriously, I must have gotten totally spoiled with Uncharted and Heavenly Sword cuz the character animations in Mass Effect are nowhere near as good as those games. The environments look great though. The combat? Maybe I"m missing something. Its a shooter. What is so great about it? The story is looking really good, but the voice acting and dialogue is below average.
Stop trying to dislike the game like a fanboy, and just play it.

RMoore
11-21-2007, 12:16
Ok,I played for a few hours last night.I usually play about every game that comes out on 360 at least a few times and I admit I'm not a big RPG fan. I did play some oblivion(lol). The game has great music and the story seems interesting so far. I like that it's not turn based too. There are however some issues with the game. There is a lot of framerate and graphical issues going on in the game so far. Slowdowns and lockups on screen.I hope this doesnt happen during the whole game,but it is very noticeable and irritating. Also,(personal opinion here)the grainy picture is messing with my eyes.I had to stop because my eyes were killing me. It's not my 360 either,I put the game in two other units and it still does the same issues. I guess this is understandable with all the data crammed into the game. I'll be getting into the game some more this weekend,so I will update with more. Lots of good scifi actors doing the voiceovers too,which I love.

Carsonal
11-21-2007, 12:38
Oh my god oh my god oh my god.
Its so close.
I'll have it in my hot little hands in less than 15 hours.

I only play Halo and Gears online with mates, but this baby will be my offline gem.

*vomits in anxiety*

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j83/jaysmyspacepictures/gifs/28320079_l.gif

Christopher
11-21-2007, 15:30
LOL you really don't sound like someone who actually has the game. If you really think the facial animations, voice acting and dialog is bad then something is wrong with you or your speakers. I also really haven't had to much of a issue with freezing or anything like that. I only get a real noticable drop every once and awhile. Maybe I have a super 360 or something. Oh yeah and I don't think you are suppose to triple post...

Seems I hit a nerve. Of course I have the game. But if it is easier for you to pretend that I don't and I'm just making crap up, feel free.

The character's faces are expressionless and their mouths move like puppets. The dialog is boring and the voice acting is mostly amateurish. Seriously, when I watch the captain talk it looks like he is dead, although he has the best voice actor in the game. Shepherd (as I didn't customize) has the worst voice actor. Very monotone sounding dude. Their animations are all very unnatural and wooden. Nihlus and the other dude (Sarin?) have good voices actors and their encounter was very cool, so I'm not talking bad across the board. Obviously there are exceptions and I expect to see more as I continue through the game. Either way, big deal. The game isn't perfect. The story is intriguing, even though it is early, and the action is good although I wasn't expecting this much of a shooter. The scenery is beautiful. The freakin' geth mother ship was enormous and awesome looking.

The freezing is fairly common as reports are popping up from various boards.





Stop trying to dislike the game like a fanboy, and just play it.

Mass Effect RULZ. It's the bomb, baby! Microsoft! Microsoft! Bioware! Bioware! Xbox 360! Xbox 360!

http://assets.spirithalloween.com/images/spirit/products/processed/00149328.zoom.a.jpg

Strung Out
11-21-2007, 16:14
Mass Effect RULZ. It's the bomb, baby! Microsoft! Microsoft! Bioware! Bioware! Xbox 360! Xbox 360!

Your on a mission here huh. Triple posts, double posts, thread topics all out anti-Mass Effect.

You wonder why people aren't taking you serious, or are slightly annoyed... it's pretty obvious.

Aquanox
11-21-2007, 16:41
I've found this G4TV Review...

Quite Hilarious :lol:

http://www.g4tv.com/lv3/19095

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/1666/Mass_Effect.html

Christopher
11-21-2007, 16:41
Your on a mission here huh. Triple posts, double posts, thread topics all out anti-Mass Effect.

You wonder why people aren't taking you serious, or are slightly annoyed... it's pretty obvious.

Come on. I've stated specific reasons for liking (evidently you missed those statements) and disliking Mass Effect. I said overall it is a good game. What is wrong with pointing out some weaknesses of a game?

As far as the triple posts, I'm responding to different posts. How am I suppose to respond? Multiple responses in one post? How do I do that? Seriously. I'm asking cuz I don't know.

daggy
11-21-2007, 16:45
Another score, from EDGE: 7/10

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 16:45
Well if you hate the game so much then sell it back. But seriously anyone who doesnt think mass effect has excellent voice acting is just rediculous. But you know it wouldnt be the first time some angry fanboy came in and bashed a game while not owning it. Oh yeah and I still have not had any rampant problems with fps. Maybe when I get to more enviromentaly active planets.

Christopher
11-21-2007, 16:47
I've found this G4TV Review...

Quite Hilarious :lol:

http://www.g4tv.com/lv3/19095

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/1666/Mass_Effect.html


"Always sticking your fingers into other people's pies.." :lol:

MossadAgentO
11-21-2007, 16:48
Sorry for doubting you leisuresuitlarry.. now its much clearer to me you own it.. :D
Especially since you first heard that quote just now ^
^ _ ^

Minnzy
11-21-2007, 16:53
As far as the triple posts, I'm responding to different posts. How am I suppose to respond? Multiple responses in one post? How do I do that? Seriously. I'm asking cuz I don't know.

When I quote multiple people I hit quote on all of them opening each one into a different tab I then copy and paste all quotes and my responses to them into a single post, a multi quote option would be handy but copy and pasting works



As far as the triple posts, I'm responding to different posts. How am I suppose to respond? Multiple responses in one post? How do I do that? Seriously. I'm asking cuz I don't know.

Like so


PS: if you can't open multiple tabs do it one at a time with the edit feature or simply respond with something like this

-(insert name) (insert response)

PSS: wait, you already responded to two people in 1 post lol

Christopher
11-21-2007, 16:58
Well if you hate the game so much then sell it back. But seriously anyone who doesnt think mass effect has excellent voice acting is just rediculous. But you know it wouldnt be the first time some angry fanboy came in and bashed a game while not owning it. Oh yeah and I still have not had any rampant problems with fps. Maybe when I get to more enviromentaly active planets.

I don't "hate" Mass Effect. I never said I "hated" the game. Mass Effect is VERY good and it is fun to play. If I had to score it, it would be an 8.5. Seriously, you need to re-read my posts and look at my positive comments as well as the negatives.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the voice acting. Glad you haven't had any problems. Hopefully it is rare and I'm just one of the unlucky ones.


Sorry for doubting you leisuresuitlarry.. now its much clearer to me you own it.. :D
Especially since you first heard that quote just now ^
^ _ ^


No worries, bud. 8)


When I quote multiple people I hit quote on all of them opening each one into a different tab I then copy and paste all quotes and my responses to them into a single post, a multi quote option would be handy but copy and pasting works


PSS: wait, you already responded to two people in 1 post lol

Awesome. Thanks, Minnzy. That actually wasn't me. One of the mods corrected my retarded posting habits. But I think I have the hang of this now. Thanks again.

sharqu
11-21-2007, 17:01
I bought my 360 for this game, and Im not dissapointed. Though Im begging for a patch. The bugs and Framerate are a bad deal. Great game though

daggy
11-21-2007, 17:09
Updated Review Scores:

G4TV: 5/5
GameSpy: 5/5 (http://uk.xbox360.gamespy.com/xbox-360/mass-effect/836239p1.html)
GameDaily: 10/10 (http://www.gamedaily.com/games/mass-effect/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/4743/1876/)
GamerTV: 5/5
MS Xbox World: 10/10 (http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/reviews/review/166/Mass-Effect.html)
OXM US: 10/10
OXM Australia: 10/10
VideoGamer.com: 10/10 (http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect/review.html)
GameZone: 9.8/10 (http://xbox360.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r27907.htm)
Planet Xbox 360: 9.8/10 (http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/3081)
Xbox Evolved: 9.8/10 (http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/Mass_Effect/4251.html)
Game Informer: 9.75/10
Cheat Code Central: 4.8/5 (http://www.cheatcc.com/xbox360/rev/masseffectreview.html)
GameTrailers: 9.6/10 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27704.html)
TeamXbox: 9.6/10 (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1437/Mass-Effect/p1/)
GamePro: 4.75/5 (http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/reviews/148788.shtml)
IGN: 9.4/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html)
Gamer 2.0: 9.2/10 (http://www.gamer20.com/gamehub/mass-effect-x360/review/1152)
Xbox 360 Advanced: 9.2/10 (http://360.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11718)
EGM: 9/10, 9.5/10, 9/10
ActionTrip: 91% (http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/360/masseffect.phtml)
IGN UK: 9.1/10 (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/836/836263p1.html)
1UP.com: 9/10 (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164453)
360 Gamer: 9/10
CVG: 9/10 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175911)
Gamesmaster: 90%
GamesRadar: 9/10 (http://gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20071118143959234064&sectionId=1000&releaseId=2005138888000000020740)
GameTap: 9/10 (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a2509011657adb401165931da1b0ec1)
OXM UK: 9/10 (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=1956)
PALGN: 9/10 (http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=9558&sid=bee9d2c4b707c48bad6d9534af94246d)
Video Game Talk: 4.5/5 (http://www.videogametalk.com/review.php?ID=778&PHPSESSID=53fbc4ac5aa9029190bf488effc4eb16)
Xbox World 360: 90%
Yahoo! Games: 4.5/5 (http://videogames.yahoo.com/xbox360/mass-effect/review-1171001)
GameSpot: 8.5/10 (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review)
UGO: B+ (http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=18035)
Eurogamer: 8/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87875)
Hardcore Gamer Magazine: 4/5
Slashdot: 4/5 (http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/19/0858206)
EDGE: 7/10
PC World: 60% (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139724-page,1-c,games/article.html)

AVERAGE: 91.4% out of 40 reviews
AVERAGE (no 360 mags): 90.7% out of 33 reviews

hchaudh1
11-21-2007, 17:31
Updated Review Scores:



AVERAGE: 91.4% out of 40 reviews
AVERAGE (no 360 mags): 90.7% out of 33 reviews


OMG OMG, I am surprised it didn't get a 10/10. Reviewers SUXXORS (or some derivative of leetspeak thereof)

Minnzy
11-21-2007, 17:35
Just a quick question to those who are/can play it, although I would have absolutly no problem with it I have found a few online comics make fun of the very long elevator trips, how long are some of these elevator trips?



Awesome. Thanks, Minnzy. That actually wasn't me. One of the mods corrected my retarded posting habits. But I think I have the hang of this now. Thanks again.

np, glad I could help out before you started getting a heap of warnings/infractions for multiposting when you were unsure how not to do it

RMoore
11-21-2007, 17:54
Just a quick question to those who are/can play it, although I would have absolutly no problem with it I have found a few online comics make fun of the very long elevator trips, how long are some of these elevator trips?



np, glad I could help out before you started getting a heap of warnings/infractions for multiposting when you were unsure how not to do it


It seemed a little long and then the Turian dude made a dumb joke..:)

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 17:57
Just a quick question to those who are/can play it, although I would have absolutly no problem with it I have found a few online comics make fun of the very long elevator trips, how long are some of these elevator trips?

They can be up to 30 sec or around there. I got used too it and you get like a news cast or your team mates make comments. I wish it was faster but could be worse.

Minnzy
11-21-2007, 18:03
They can be up to 30 sec or around there. I got used too it and you get like a news cast or your team mates make comments. I wish it was faster but could be worse.

That actually sounds pretty cool, 30 seconds sounds like it would be annoying but atleast it's not just some incredible dull thumb twiddling elevator/loading sequence, something actually happens to help lessen/remove the annoyance

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 18:15
Plus they have a fast transit system in the citadel though you have to find the desintations it lets you bypass the elevators and it seems to load faster.

Sephyr
11-21-2007, 18:31
I was really hyped for this and was thinking about getting a 360 for it but my hype seems to be dwindling.

paladin
11-21-2007, 19:16
Everyone says that the technical glitches are something that can be passed by. Besides thats what patches are for.

Any game that releases with technical glitches does not deserve a 10/10 or even a 9/10, that falls into the 8.5 or for major ones even worse if they are really major. Just because a game doesn't score a 10/10 doesn't mean it sucks. There are great games that are in the 8.5 range. 10/10 ratings should be reserved for games that are not only great, but flawless on release.

I noticed that some reviews mentioned the errors in the game, but still rated it high. I wounder of the full page ads and online advertising made the reviewers reluctant in dropping the scores to low.

Paladin

GartMon
11-21-2007, 20:11
Off topic, I remember when people were saying halo 3 had framerate issues. That one got on my nerves. I was arguing with some guy in the ps3 section I believe, it was so frustrating. He was trying to say multiplayer had bad framrate issues (cough, ignorance, cough)

Paladin, im sure they took into consideration the technical issues in the final score. It really comes down to how playable and enjoyable an experience is altogether, you dont just deduct x mount of points for x flaw. I trust that reviewers know what the hell they are doing most the time, as many of them take it very seriously.

paladin
11-21-2007, 21:26
Paladin, im sure they took into consideration the technical issues in the final score. It really comes down to how playable and enjoyable an experience is altogether, you dont just deduct x mount of points for x flaw. I trust that reviewers know what the hell they are doing most the time, as many of them take it very seriously.

I thinking AD money had more effect on these scores that game flaws. I'm still going to get Mass Effect, and I'm sure I am going to love it, BUT there is no way a game that is rated 10/10 should have any of the flaws that Mass Effect has. I used to Beta test games, so I guess that I am a little more picky then others.

Paladin

Applefiend
11-21-2007, 21:41
Wooof, check the gamercard.

In Aotearoa Richard Smith's are selling it for $89, $10 cheaper than EB. Don't waste your money in EB.

Armake21
11-21-2007, 22:29
It's not perfect, but in this case, the good FAR outweighs the bad, because playing this, chances are you will in fact look past any issues you have, and totally enjoy the hell out of it.

One thing that should be said, is that Mass Effect, is the most cinematic RPG to date. While it's very much an Action/RPG Hybrid, it flows like a movie whenever things get going, and aside from side quests and such, it's never really put into "down time". In otherwords, those insanely boring spots you could find in just about any RPG(rare exceptions do apply for some though), aren't easily found here. You're almost always involving yourself in something, be it small or big. A good example is my random exploration, finding the consort, and then being lead on a subquest.

Did I would get that far? I thought I was having a random conversation with some sort of Alien receptionist. I never saw it coming. Even better, is what happened next. I expected one thing, and the game surprised me. It's been doing this pretty much the entire time I've spent playing it so far, and I've barely scraped 9 hours here. I couldn't even sleep, that's how intwined I was with the game.

Even doing what could be the most boring task in all creation, is a treat here, and you need to give a hand to the developers, for ridding Mass Effect if some typical RPG Stigma...especially the less linear non-Japanese ones, with tons of option, in some cases, too many.

Mass Effect does it all right, and Bioware somehow once again, makes this type of RPG, a breeze to play and control, when really...this should be a pain in the ass, and have too much going on to keep up with.

Bioware aren't the top ranked developers for nothing. They earn their place, and KOTOR showed that, and now Mass Effect proves it.

P.S.- The framerate problem can be annoying, but it never really "drops" all that low. If you ask me, the most annoying thing, is dead stops to load, and the load time if you die...or use a transport. That and...if nothing else, some of the armor in the game looks horrible. Yellow and white stripes...what in the HELL were they thinking :shock:

Well...the texture loading stuff can annoy too, but I've seen it on the 360 a lot, and even the "best" games, have it. It's only bad, after you play a game longer then 3-4 hours though.

One-Shot
11-21-2007, 22:37
Any game that releases with technical glitches does not deserve a 10/10 or even a 9/10, that falls into the 8.5 or for major ones even worse if they are really major. Just because a game doesn't score a 10/10 doesn't mean it sucks. There are great games that are in the 8.5 range. 10/10 ratings should be reserved for games that are not only great, but flawless on release.

I noticed that some reviews mentioned the errors in the game, but still rated it high. I wounder of the full page ads and online advertising made the reviewers reluctant in dropping the scores to low.

Paladin
Like I have said before the glitches arent that bad and mass effect is such a good game it overcomes any that exsist. This game deserves all its high scores.

natureman3
11-21-2007, 22:57
Mass effect was supposed to be the latest graphical marvel and it failed for the graphic wore I am.

Armake21
11-21-2007, 23:10
Mass effect was supposed to be the latest graphical marvel and it failed for the graphic wore I am.

So you're just passing it up because of that?

Carsonal
11-21-2007, 23:24
4 more hours.
Then I'm off the forums for a while.
Farewell people


Mass effect was supposed to be the latest graphical marvel and it failed for the graphic wore I am.

Dont buy it then.
Problem solved.

MossadAgentO
11-21-2007, 23:46
Mass effect was supposed to be the latest graphical marvel and it failed for the graphic wore I am.
Gears of war still has the championship belt :cool:

Christopher
11-22-2007, 01:09
Uncharted still has the championship belt :cool:

I agree with that statement wholeheartedly. :mrgreen:

udontneed2know
11-22-2007, 04:11
Assassins Creed and CoD4 hit the mark graphically to me. The animation system of Assassins Creed is simply astonishing. The first time I reached Damascus and saw that trully massive city before me I simply gaped in awe at how amazing everything looked. AC may take the graphical crown to me this year. That or Ratchet and Clank PS3. CoD4 looks amazing as well, but its harder to impress me when your looking at no more then 500 yards in front of you. AC and RaC have draw distances that simply destroy the other titles, and things in the distance of AC look marvelous as well. Not blocky and dead like Oblivion.

Strung Out
11-22-2007, 04:33
Assassins Creed and CoD4 hit the mark graphically to me. The animation system of Assassins Creed is simply astonishing. The first time I reached Damascus and saw that trully massive city before me I simply gaped in awe at how amazing everything looked. AC may take the graphical crown to me this year. That or Ratchet and Clank PS3. CoD4 looks amazing as well, but its harder to impress me when your looking at no more then 500 yards in front of you. AC and RaC have draw distances that simply destroy the other titles, and things in the distance of AC look marvelous as well. Not blocky and dead like Oblivion.

I agree..im not able to try uncharted or ratchet yet, but man AC looks and feels amazing.

Christopher
11-22-2007, 04:37
Well, I've just put 7 hours into Mass Effect and there is no doubt that it is a great game. I take back what I said about the voice acting being bad. It really isn't. It's just Shepard's voice actor that sucks. Dude puts no life into his character. The facial animation is still largely emotionless but I'm getting use to it. I love the alien characters. Wrex is freakin' awesome! Love that deep baritone voice of his. I keep thinking any minute he's going to break down some Barry White.


http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/wp-content/screenshots2/mass_wrex/mass_wrex.jpg

I don't know why....I don't know why.....I can't get enough of your love, babe

zero1661
11-22-2007, 07:28
the voice acting in this game is some of the best ive ever heard overall, but shepard does sound like a ****ing robot lol.

Carsonal
11-22-2007, 10:36
I'm playing as the chick shepard, and she sounds like one powerful bitch when you want her to.

Only 2 hours in and I'm ****ing hooked.
Last time I played an RPG that got me this interested was years ago on PC.

It plays nice, it looks nice, its drawn me into its story.
Lovin it

Versa
11-22-2007, 13:11
I love this ****ing game so much! I've declined private chats from some of my good buddies, just so I can hear the dialog and immerse myself in the universe.

Applefiend
11-22-2007, 14:14
Only had a quick go, got some stuff to finish up first, but the game seems to be....

"Hey kids, do you like science fiction? Do you like Stargate, Babylon 5, etc?"
The Kids: Yeah!
"Do you like playing with guns?'
The kids; "Hell yeah!'
"Then you'll like mass effect"

I'm not fond of the graphics, they've gone for a "diabetic with tunnel vision' look for the game. I'd get laser eye surgery for that son. It doesn't have the best graphics you've ever seen, but...

It's a very fine western RPG, I'd go as far to say groundbreaking. Raises the bar like no other in terms of presentation. Very nice, go get it.

udontneed2know
11-22-2007, 17:14
Well its hard for me to call this game groundbreaking since it isn't doing anything new. It is basically Knights of the Old Republic with more interactive conversations and a twitch-based combat system I still haven't fully figured out yet. I rented from Blockbuster so no manual, so figuring out how to switch weapons or use abilities took a little bit. No tutorial really, even with it all turned on. It explains the very basics ( like hey, hit right on D-Pad to tell squad to attack target ) but nothing advanced.

But, not groundbreaking in my eyes. The world is surely vast and full of life and history, but so was Oblivion. Except this game is in space. So, pretty much take Knights of the Old Republic and advance everything about 5 years and you have Mass Effect. Solid game, very solid game. Solid, oh yes, groundbreaking .. no. Nothing new here.

Sino
11-22-2007, 17:51
I have played about 15 hours so far, besides me bithching about the framerate and all that, It's very addictive actually. Did the clubs and strippers remind anyone of Yakuza for PS2, I thought they done the mature content quite similarly. I'm trying to have sexy time with one of the asari characters, but you gotta take it slow. BTW, is the consort cheap. You helped her out but all she gives you is a few words and a useless item. I thought she works at a hostess bar.

One-Shot
11-22-2007, 18:34
Well, I've just put 7 hours into Mass Effect and there is no doubt that it is a great game. I take back what I said about the voice acting being bad. It really isn't. It's just Shepard's voice actor that sucks. Dude puts no life into his character. The facial animation is still largely emotionless but I'm getting use to it. I love the alien characters. Wrex is freakin' awesome! Love that deep baritone voice of his. I keep thinking any minute he's going to break down some Barry White.


Well my job is done here :rolleyes:. Though thing with shepherd is he isnt suppose to be this full of emotion guy. When I watched the trailers I was afraid his voice was really going to suck but after spending 10 hours with it I have warmed up to it. Definetly not the best but not too bad and at least the main character isnt silent like in kotor.




I have played about 15 hours so far, besides me bithching about the framerate and all that, It's very addictive actually. Did the clubs and strippers remind anyone of Yakuza for PS2, I thought they done the mature content quite similarly. I'm trying to have sexy time with one of the asari characters, but you gotta take it slow. BTW, is the consort cheap. You helped her out but all she gives you is a few words and a useless item. I thought she works at a hostess bar.

I figure that the trinket will have something to do with some sidequest.

PsychoKitten
11-22-2007, 18:52
It's a great game and I'm loving every minute of it but the pop ins are terrible. I hate how when you're in a cutscene and some guy's clothing textures pop in and out about 5 times when he sways a bit.

Christopher
11-22-2007, 20:07
Well my job is done here :rolleyes:. Though thing with shepherd is he isnt suppose to be this full of emotion guy. When I watched the trailers I was afraid his voice was really going to suck but after spending 10 hours with it I have warmed up to it. Definetly not the best but not too bad and at least the main character isnt silent like in kotor.


Your job? LOL! :rolleyes:

Shepherd isn't suppose to sound like a robot, is he? He doesn't have to be emotional. Just not a freakin' monotone machine.

Christopher
11-22-2007, 20:26
More thoughts.....

The framerate and stuttering problems are getting EXTREMELY annoying. The freezes have calmed down a bit though. I'm wondering if the resolution I was using was the cause? I recently got a new LCD and increased the resolution and the freezes went away.

Graphically, this isn't a revolutionary game by any stretch of the imagination. Looks good, but there are other games that look better. If it ran smoother then that would probably make a difference. Before some of you cry blasphemy and banish me to the third circle of hell where all who would decry the holiest of consoles are forced to play pong for eternity, let me stress: this is a great looking game. Its just not the best of looking game of this generation. I've said it. You may now hurl cabbage at me at your leisure.

The gameplay is great. Love the combat. At first, I wasn't sure I'd like the shooter stuff, but they really did a great job with it. Love being able to travel to the plethora of worlds available. Normandy is a cool looking ship too. The vehice (forgot its name) is cool, but hard as hell to drive. Getting really frustrated as I get bombarded by big baddies and I'm slamming my truck into the side of a mountain like a freakin' idiot.

Now the really good part. The story gets more and more enthralling as I continue. I'm really interested to see what is really going on. I see a lot of influences from various sources in this game. The Prothean technology aspect is taken right out of Forbidden Planet. The Geth remind me of the machines in Matrix. There is also some Babylon 5, Star Trek, and Star Wars. It is like smörgåsbord of Sci-Fi themes and they are perfectly blended to create a true epic story. Top-notch. I love a good story and Mass Effect makes up for its ills and then some with a truly great adventure.

Carsonal
11-22-2007, 22:45
Those stupid Biotic cultists are a pain in the ass to kill with all their magic globs they throw at you.

Sino
11-23-2007, 01:41
Just fininshed the game, it was epic at the last few levels. I mean very epic. The sense of scale is non have seen before in a video game. You have to make two choices that will affect the story for later games. I finally made sexy time with liara, I think that's her name, and I hope they have a baby for the next game. I always have this love and hate relationship with this game. I hate the technical hiccups and the combat isn't really that fun to play, not until I put a biotic master in combat then it started to get better, but still combat is not this game's strong point. The idea to explore different planets sounds great, but in reality it's very limited, and almost every side mission feels like you are going to the same places and doing the same things, though they might look different. With the exception of few missions that you can get special abilities or have access to rare weapons, otherwise you would skip most of the side missions towards the later half of the game. On the other hand, absolutely loved the story and the dialouges. There are some choices you have to make that I guess will dictate the story of Mass Effect 2 and 3. One last note, the graphics look better than Gears of War, a lot better.

PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS!! [rikwakefield]

exYle
11-23-2007, 02:10
Have you not played it online? Your achievement status isn't updating.

Sino
11-23-2007, 03:29
Have you not played it online? Your achievement status isn't updating.

I updated it to suit you liking, my man.

exYle
11-23-2007, 03:37
LOL! Thanks.

A few questions.

How do you get the Paramour achievement as a Paragon? I heard that the blue alien will only do you if you're a Renegade.
What the heck do Charm and Intimidate do? Where must you use them?
What class are you?


PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS! [rikwakefield]

Sino
11-23-2007, 03:52
LOL! Thanks.

A few questions.
How do you get the Paramour achievement as a Paragon? I heard that the blue alien will only do you if you're a Renegade.
What the heck do Charm and Intimidate do? Where must you use them?
What class are you?

For the Paramour achievement, you need to talk to liara ( stand corrected for the name). She is Benezia's daughter and you will get her as the last playable character in the game. Talk to her a couple times or so and express that you like her, evertually she will come to you and make SEXY time.

I think having a high Paragon meter means you are being GOOD in the game, saving people and not pissing people off all that kind of stuff. Having a high Renegade meter means you are being Evil in the game. The higher the Paragon meter goes, the more upgrade you can get for you Charm ability, and vice versa for the intimidate. Charm and Intimidate unlock more conversation options, and you can buy stuff cheaper in sotres.

I'm playing as a vangard which I regretted. I'd rather have the AI handle the biotics because I don't want to pause and choose those abilities from the menu every time. I used shotgun mostly.

PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS! [rikwakefield]

exYle
11-23-2007, 04:30
Alright thanks very much. I know what Paragons and Renegades are, but someone else will definately thank your for the intricate description.

Where did you get your achievement for using charm or intimidate to solve an impossible problem? I though using charm to get Mr. Bal... something to give up in the attempt to retrieve his wife's body would net me the achievement.


ARGHH! [rikwakefield]

Sino
11-23-2007, 05:37
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Where did you get your achievement for using charm or intimidate to solve an impossible problem? I though using charm to get Mr. Bal... something to give up in the attempt to retrieve his wife's body would net me the achievement.

Gosh, I wasn't aimming for it so I kinda forgot. I did the one you said and yeah it's not that one. Anyways, I think I got it towards the end. It's not that hard to get that one so I don't think you would miss it.

Nunalho
11-23-2007, 16:58
So for those who got to the end, is it really that short for an RPG (storywise)?
Reports from the other thread say its about 20 hrs...



I finished it in about 21 hours. I don't know if I should spoil this, but I guess I can say that humans will play a much bigger part in the sequels. In one of the side missions, you get to go to the moon, but I really wanted to go to earth. I hope they can have us explore earth in the following games.


lol, its funny, i beat it in exactly 14:00 but i didnt do many sidequests, on my next playthrough ill do as much as possible

I think it should be around 40 hrs of story, with no side quests.

Vertisce
11-23-2007, 17:33
We can only wish for 40 hours of story. That would be something. As it is I beat it in just over 15 hours without a break in gameplay. No sidequests. So much for being debunked...

MossadAgentO
11-23-2007, 17:33
So for those who got to the end, is it really that short for an RPG (storywise)?
Reports from the other thread say its about 20 hrs...





I think it should be around 40 hrs of story, with no side quests.
I dont think anyone will beat it already and tell you anything other than I rushed through and didnt do the side quests...

Sino
11-23-2007, 18:40
So for those who got to the end, is it really that short for an RPG (storywise)?
Reports from the other thread say its about 20 hrs...

I think it should be around 40 hrs of story, with no side quests.

Trust me, I have done about 60 percent of the side missions. At first I was all happy like everybody else, staying in the Citadel for a long time. Once you got out that's when it's getting less exciting, until you hit the last two levels then it's starting to be good again. Chances are you won't want to finish all the side quests unless you want to reach level 50 or 60 to get that achievement, or else some quests (very few) offer you special abilities or weaphons. So if you don't do any side quests, you can finish it in about 13 to 15 hours.

Infinite Daremo
11-23-2007, 19:11
Why do people keep saying this game is short? Its an RPG for christs sake. You can complete Oblivion in 15 hours if you rush the main storyline, but whats the point? You can complete Fantasy 9 in 15 hours? Whats the point? You can complete Fable in ~10 hours, but whats the point? The majority of RPG's have short main stories. Its the sidequests/grinding which span the gameplay length to higher levels which the majority of RPG gamers invest time in, getting a really powerful character.

Christopher
11-23-2007, 19:12
So for those who got to the end, is it really that short for an RPG (storywise)?
Reports from the other thread say its about 20 hrs...





I think it should be around 40 hrs of story, with no side quests.

Well, we had a thread about this but unfortunately a mod decided he wanted to have the last word so he locked the thread after he posted. Thanks, Aqua. To answer your question, the main quest is reported to be between 14 and 20 hours. Side quests obviously extend the game much more.

Nunalho
11-23-2007, 19:26
Fine, that´s all i wanted to know. 15-20 hrs with no side quest then, that´s rather short story for an RPG, but i guess the experience is worth it.

Sino
11-23-2007, 19:28
Well, we had a thread about this but unfortunately a mod decided he wanted to have the last word so he locked the thread after he posted. Thanks, Aqua. To answer your question, the main quest is reported to be between 14 and 20 hours. Side quests obviously extend the game much more.

I sent him a private message bascially asking him to unlock the thread. I personally don't think 20 hours is short, and the option to explore more is there . Mass Effect has a lot of replay value too, so it makes the game even logner. But I don't think the problem is the length of the game anymore.

Vertisce
11-24-2007, 03:21
It is classified as an RPG but it's not a traditional RPG. KotOR wasn't traditional either. Most RPG's like Final Fantasy and the like have a very distinct main storyline that you follow. There are side quests but not so many that they make up more time than the game itself. Take FF7 for instance. Long storyline...it had side quests but they were often quick and easy to accomplish and didn't distract from the main story too much. KotOR had a setup where it seemed that all the side quests tied into the main story in one way or another but they didn't HAVE to be done to complete the game. In Mass Effect the side quests seem to be there just for the sake of being there to distract and give you something different...like in Elder Scrolls. My point is there are a variety of different types of RPG games and this is the type that won't take weeks to finish but for the hardcore player may take longer as they will want to do all the side quests.

mickice
11-24-2007, 03:26
Mass Effect right now is at 92 on metacritic, but thats only 35 reviews.
Final Fantasy 12 has 62 reviews and is still at 92.

I think from here on in, we might see a drop in ME overall score, it's hard to tell.
But for now, it's still AAA

Carsonal
11-24-2007, 05:48
Does anyone know how to file the report on the Normandy after completing the father Kyle mission?

PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS! [rikwakefield]

Sockpuppet
11-24-2007, 07:59
Report to the Normandy?

Well in the Mako pressing X will allow you to reboard the Normandy. From there you usually get a cut scene from UNC with the report automatically made.

In other news, holy shiz Virmire and Ilos are gorgeous looking environments. Game takes a huge step up on these planets from an aesthetic point of view.

PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS! [rikwakefield]

Carsonal
11-24-2007, 08:34
Report to the Normandy?

Well in the Mako pressing X will allow you to reboard the Normandy. From there you usually get a cut scene from UNC with the report automatically made.

In other news, holy shiz Virmire and Ilos are gorgeous looking environments. Game takes a huge step up on these planets from an aesthetic point of view.

I jumped on the Normandy but its not bringing any UNC cut scenes.
NM, I'll figure it out later.

I'm a tad peeved about the autosaving.
It should be like Oblivion where doorways and travelling saves auto, but I just got set back 30 mins since I died in conflict and didnt save prior.

Sparc
11-24-2007, 09:17
Note to the cretins posting and discussing the storyline or quests! This is a REVIEWS thread. If you want to talk storyline and hints and tips then create a Mass Effect Guide and Help thread you muppets! Worst case put your questions and answers in spolier tags. Some parts of the world have only just had the game released yesterday.


Well, we had a thread about this but unfortunately a mod decided he wanted to have the last word so he locked the thread after he posted. Thanks, Aqua. To answer your question, the main quest is reported to be between 14 and 20 hours. Side quests obviously extend the game much more.

So I've just started the game yesterday. How in god's name anyone can do this game in 14 hours is completely beyond me. I am 4 hours in and not even out of the Citadel yet. Running around doing the side quests which will open up other storylines within the game and using them to get upgrades and stuff. I mean who plays Oblivion and does none of the side quests? Exactly. This game is looking to me like it will be at least 40 hours - if not more.

The game itself is just excellent! I've seen some of the glitches that have been reported but I can honestly say that at the moment they haven't really affected me (I'd prefer them not to be there of course, but they don't detract too much from the game). However, I am still quite early in the game and so it may be more of an issue later.

The graphics are good, excellent in places, but not Uncharted-jaw-droppingly stunning. However the game play is just immense. I love the dialogue and from what I've heard I've not even got to where people think it really picks up. I can tell already that this is an AAA game for me! As for the reviewers? Well they can think what the hell they like. I don't give a monkey.

If you have a 360. If you like RPG's. You loved KOTOR and if you've always like Bioware's games - GET THIS!

Sockpuppet
11-24-2007, 09:37
Wait for Virmire and Ilos, they look amazing.

Sparc
11-24-2007, 09:45
Can't wait! I'm taking my good sweet time. Btw, I picked up the control and battle system without any problem. I think because I was used to how KOTOR worked (even though they aren't the same, just similar). I actually really like it. What I don't like is not being able to queue the commands like you could in KOTOR (do a, then b, then whatever you want). I'm also not keen on the fact that I can only send the team together. I can't send each one separately which means if you have one CQB person and one Sniper then you're not able to use that optimally.

Partly why I'm an Infiltrator. I'm going do the ranged stuff and have the other two as medium to short range characters.

rikwakefield
11-24-2007, 11:02
PLEASE STOP POSTING SPOILERS!!! :bang:

Cataclysm
11-24-2007, 13:44
15 hours in, love the story, the combat, the dialogue, the relationships, the graphics... everything is just amazing. I fell like i've just scratched the surface and i've still got so much to do, my journal is still packed full of side quests and i'm not very far in the main quest.

I'm just taking my time enjoying the experience. I've not been annoyd by the bugs or loading times at all.

I really don't understand the people complaining about this game or saying they did it in 14 hours, they mustn't have known this was an rpg or maybe they just haven't played it and are talking it down.

Anyway.. back to mass effect :P

DS901
11-24-2007, 14:51
I am twleve hours into the game and honestly, besides the occasional dumb moves by your friendly AI, I have not experienced any of the glitches I read in the reviews. Most importantly is the framerate: it has never slowed down for me and is always consistent.

It doesn't matter what this game gets in the reviews (even though it doesn't deserve its scores, it should be getting higher from what I have been experiencing) this game is AAA.

De La Milagrosa
11-24-2007, 17:42
Big flaws? While framerates can be rather annoying, that is NOT a big flaw, not for an RPG. For a racing game or even an FPS, yeah, but on an RPG it is not a "huge" flaw in any sense.

The biggest parts of RPG's are as follows:

Story
Gameplay
Longevity
Originality
Voice Acting
Combat

And apparently all those are amazing. Those are the parts that actually matter in a game, frame rates are annoying, but they wont make/break a game unless it is at an extreme, which it does not sound like Mass Effect is.I've never had a frame rate problem playing an RPG, I would find that very strange....

crj27
11-24-2007, 17:51
was just wondering if you guys thought this was definately worth a buy or not, right now i'm still playing through bioshock and should have it done withing the next week, amazing game btw. was thinking about getting mass effect for x-mas....but was wondering if anyone think it's one of those games you should rent before making a decision on, just looking for some feedback.

GTAWISCONSIN
11-24-2007, 18:13
cant wait to get this game for christmas

exYle
11-24-2007, 20:09
Hey, if anyone is a Vanguard, could you give tips for combat? I die a lot because I keep forgetting about my kickass biotic powers...

Also, what the hell does Warp do?

DMB14
11-24-2007, 20:31
Mass Effect is amazing. It's possibly the most worthwhile game on the 360 since Oblivion. It's also much better than Oblivion...:D

If any game is worth $60, Mass Effect definitely is.

Cataclysm
11-24-2007, 22:54
I just played through virmire... this game is amazing. I don't think i've ever played anything like it. Some of the choises are really really hard in this game and you actually do have to take itme to think about it lol and i've actually felt quite bad after a few i've made.

Amazing game lol

Ryoma
11-24-2007, 23:27
im in love with the battle system, ima vanguard and i love shooting, plus lift has saved my life against them rocket wealding geth, EPIC and best game i played since the original Halo combat evolution

Sparc
11-24-2007, 23:42
I'm playing as an Infiltrator - has it's challenges but is also very cool too. I spent 9, yes 9 hours just in the Citadel doing all the side quests, reading everything, every dialogue line, every entry in the codec. The game is, or at least can be, huge!

CushVA
11-24-2007, 23:59
I got through it in about 20 hours, though I only did a small number of side quests....and I mean a small amount. The majority being ones that take place on the Citadel (I think I only went to 2 or 3 non story planets). I was an Infiltrator / Earth Born / Survivor....Paragon

definitely going to go back and play again....and this time I'm going to do a lot more exploring and stuff. Not sure which class I'll go with

exYle
11-25-2007, 00:56
I'm playing as an Infiltrator - has it's challenges but is also very cool too. I spent 9, yes 9 hours just in the Citadel doing all the side quests, reading everything, every dialogue line, every entry in the codec. The game is, or at least can be, huge!
I've played 7 hours and I've haven't even gone to Feros or Noveria yet.

Cataclysm
11-25-2007, 01:43
Completed it in 24 hours :P Not bad i'd say considering that has to be the best game i've ever played with everything taken into account. I got really caught up in it, it's so epic and fun. I've never played anything that has done that to me before, it really was like playing a movie.

I'm going to have to play this again, several times and do a lot more side quests :)

If you don't have this YOU HAVE TO GET IT
If you don't have a 360 GET ONE WITH THIS

Can't recommend this game enough


I DEMAND A TRILOGY!!!

PS: What's the song in the credits?

One-Shot
11-25-2007, 05:39
Completed it in 24 hours :P Not bad i'd say considering that has to be the best game i've ever played with everything taken into account. I got really caught up in it, it's so epic and fun. I've never played anything that has done that to me before, it really was like playing a movie.

I'm going to have to play this again, several times and do a lot more side quests :)

If you don't have this YOU HAVE TO GET IT
If you don't have a 360 GET ONE WITH THIS

Can't recommend this game enough


I DEMAND A TRILOGY!!!

PS: What's the song in the credits?
Well, it is a trilogy........

Sparc
11-25-2007, 09:11
I got through it in about 20 hours, though I only did a small number of side quests....and I mean a small amount. The majority being ones that take place on the Citadel (I think I only went to 2 or 3 non story planets). I was an Infiltrator / Earth Born / Survivor....Paragon

definitely going to go back and play again....and this time I'm going to do a lot more exploring and stuff. Not sure which class I'll go with

My character is very close to that. Infiltrator, Colony born, Sole survivor, Renegade. I tell you what. I think my romance chances are seriously at risk from this renegade approach LOL

Cataclysm
11-25-2007, 11:29
Well, it is a trilogy........
Not if EA don't let them do it :p and I want it now not after they make some other games lol

Fishtank
11-25-2007, 13:39
EA pass up on easy money sequels?? I don't think so. Unless MS has some rights pass the first one, and manages to **** things up if EA wants to go multi-plat or something.

MossadAgentO
11-25-2007, 13:55
This game is so awesome. I had to choose between two major characters and i will choose the good way next time with a better class. The story is great and the writing is deep and funny and aweosme. This game is EPIC

Bulldogger
11-25-2007, 14:00
The game is everything wrapped up into one. Must own IMO.

sterritt
11-25-2007, 14:04
I cant stop playing the game, Took me 6 hours to get out of Citadel and then I just explored different planets for a while. Its very addictive and the combat setup is perfect imo.

Only thing I hate is Ashleys expert ability to always get killed in a fight lol.

keshin
11-25-2007, 14:19
I'm getting the game next week (Playing Mario Galaxy atm.) Is it true that it takes 15 hours or so to finish including sidequests?

I've heard people mention all different times from all over the net. Some reviews say easily 30 hours without sidequests, but then some say 15-20 hours including sidequests :s

sterritt
11-25-2007, 14:35
I'm getting the game next week (Playing Mario Galaxy atm.) Is it true that it takes 15 hours or so to finish including sidequests?

I've heard people mention all different times from all over the net. Some reviews say easily 30 hours without sidequests, but then some say 15-20 hours including sidequests :s

I think it depends on your playing style cause I have been playing now for 10 hours and not even started the main quest after doing Citadel, which is the first city you arrive at

DMB14
11-25-2007, 16:54
I just hope EA doesn't f*ck this up... This game is too good.

exYle
11-25-2007, 17:25
Only thing I hate is Ashleys expert ability to always get killed in a fight lol.
You have been making sure that her talents are up to date with her level right? As well, give her some heavy armor when her "Assault Armor Training" (or something like that) allows her to wear heavy armor. Also, depending on the type of weapon she has equipped, she will attack appropriately. With a shotgun, she will rush in and likely get killed (use it for close quarters combat - most side quests are inside similar rooms, so know when a shotgun is most useful). With an assault rifle, she will stay close to you. With a sniper rifle, she will stay behind you and lay down cover fire.

Just curious, which direction on the d-pad is the one to make your squad attack a particular enemy?

SuperiorIntellect
11-25-2007, 17:58
I'm getting the game next week (Playing Mario Galaxy atm.) Is it true that it takes 15 hours or so to finish including sidequests?

I've heard people mention all different times from all over the net. Some reviews say easily 30 hours without sidequests, but then some say 15-20 hours including sidequests :s

Takes more than 20 hours for sure. 20 hours would be if you did just the main plot. If you do even half the side plots you'll reach about 30 hours.

Anyone remember when people were claiming this game was 70 hours long? Perhaps this is why FFXIII and VS are taking 3 years to complete, we may actually get 70 hours worth of play with those games.

sterritt
11-25-2007, 18:50
You have been making sure that her talents are up to date with her level right? As well, give her some heavy armor when her "Assault Armor Training" (or something like that) allows her to wear heavy armor. Also, depending on the type of weapon she has equipped, she will attack appropriately. With a shotgun, she will rush in and likely get killed (use it for close quarters combat - most side quests are inside similar rooms, so know when a shotgun is most useful). With an assault rifle, she will stay close to you. With a sniper rifle, she will stay behind you and lay down cover fire.

Just curious, which direction on the d-pad is the one to make your squad attack a particular enemy?

Up on the D pad. Thanks for the info exYle, I have not alocated any points to her assault armor training will equip her with sniper rifle until I get her armor up to scratch.

keshin
11-25-2007, 19:06
Takes more than 20 hours for sure. 20 hours would be if you did just the main plot. If you do even half the side plots you'll reach about 30 hours.

Anyone remember when people were claiming this game was 70 hours long? Perhaps this is why FFXIII and VS are taking 3 years to complete, we may actually get 70 hours worth of play with those games.
I see, well thats good.

As for whether we'll see 70+ hour RPGs again, I seriously doubt it. Infact I would bet everything I have we wont see another 70+ hour story-driven RPG again (Open games like Oblivion dont count. Oblivions main quest is <10 hours.)

I remember regularily clocking 70+ hours on JRPGs on the PS1. God I loved that time in gaming history... 100+ hour Xenogears! Now thats what you call epic!

Sparc
11-25-2007, 19:09
You have been making sure that her talents are up to date with her level right? As well, give her some heavy armor when her "Assault Armor Training" (or something like that) allows her to wear heavy armor. Also, depending on the type of weapon she has equipped, she will attack appropriately. With a shotgun, she will rush in and likely get killed (use it for close quarters combat - most side quests are inside similar rooms, so know when a shotgun is most useful). With an assault rifle, she will stay close to you. With a sniper rifle, she will stay behind you and lay down cover fire.

Just curious, which direction on the d-pad is the one to make your squad attack a particular enemy?

Press -> on the D-pad with the enemy targetted

IGetBored
11-25-2007, 19:57
Got this on Friday, have played it for about 7 hours now, and wow, what a game. I was a little concerned with the mixed reactions I was reading on the web, but I guess most of the complaints I've read about I don't agree with, or don't really bother me.

Game too short? Not for me (I just got the Normandy), but I suppose if you fast travel (instead of getting to know the locations and characters), or if you never read the codex, or if you don't sidequest or explore, you'll find it short.

Elevators? Love them, much better than loading screens a la KOTOR or Oblivion. It even adds up to the story, with news reports and conversations.

Graphics? I'm not best person to judge, because it's not that important to me, but I think it's gorgeous, frame rate is fine, although you'll see screen tearing and pop ups from time to time.

The negative for me: while I love the combat and the tactical aspect of it, there's some room for improvement. AI at times is lacking, and one thing that bothers me is the lack of reaction when you hit someone. Also, when you're fighting someone do they have to shout the same generic line over and over again? Why do people have to talk when fighting?

All in all, a great game and well worth the wait. I can see myself playing this for a long time.

Knuckles126
11-26-2007, 06:01
I have not been on my computer in days. Mass Effect is without a doubt, the greatest game I have ever played!

It's not just a game, it's an experience....and the experience is amazing. :DD

My only complaints are the framerate and the pop-in textures. The framerate can get a bit choppy at times and textures don't always load in time, but just like with Oblivion, the experience is so great, I don't even care. :lol:

MossadAgentO
11-26-2007, 15:35
I have not been on my computer in days. Mass Effect is without a doubt, the greatest game I have ever played!

It's not just a game, it's an experience....and the experience is amazing. :DD

My only complaints are the framerate and the pop-in textures. The framerate can get a bit choppy at times and textures don't always load in time, but just like with Oblivion, the experience is so great, I don't even care. :lol:
Nice to hear you like it knuckles. I just beat it and it was epic. Its like a halo rpg with classes and powers.

Knuckles126
11-26-2007, 19:13
Nice to hear you like it knuckles. I just beat it and it was epic. Its like a halo rpg with classes and powers.
The guy who is making Fable 2....he wants to really make you 'feel' something when playing a game. My hat's off to him, because he is right. Mass Effect was the first game I've ever played where I actually felt emotion for the characters. When I had to make that terrible choice on Virmire...it was tough. In any other game, I wouldn't have cared. But thats just it...I cared about the characters, and that doesn't happen to me often in any game.

I can't wait for the sequel, and I've already beaten the game (main quest) two times and now I'm on my third...I plan to do the side quests now. :DD

Naxi
11-27-2007, 02:11
It's a pain to read the forums, the game hasn't arrived here yet arghh.