The Manchester United Thread [Archive] - Page 117

three3-times

09-03-2012, 08:54

Right, win aside, that was ANOTHER awful performance from us.

We had to rely on a 37 to change the the game.
Evra is done.
Wasnt rafas fault for the 1st goal, where was vida or rio?
Why was a striker (Welbz) playing on the left when we have nani?
Why wasnt CM properly addressed? we are liking a cheap whore through the middle of the pitch, so easily got at.
Chico also made the difference when he came on.
DDG shouldnt of been dropped, that was VERY harsh. I actually think he saved either of their headers!

Tbh, i know rio/vida aint played together since basle and both are coming off injuries, but still, i expect better from them

Where was ando? he wouldve got stuck in.

Carrick seemed to forget that he was playing in CM, a lot a mis placed passes from him

Didnt use Kagawa well. He had a poor game. Learning curve.

LC77

09-03-2012, 12:44

Awful performance yesterday. At times in posession of the ball, Carrick looked like he was auditioning for a part in The Walking Dead. Rio looked like he was tweeting during the game, but the most shocking thing for me Mike Phelan.

Isn't he the assistant manager at United? Someone needs to get the bloke a onesie, during the game he looked like a big tired old baby. He couldn't even be arsed to get up when RvP scored. And if a team reflects its manager/assistant manager, of late it is doing. Tired, sluggish and just plain old.

And now Fergie has set a precedent for a player making one mistake. Will Silva and Evra to be dropped from the next game? Felt sorry for De Gea yesterday, bad enough to be dropped but for the manager to be so public about it, not good.

On the bright side, Liverpool. :lol:

R3D D3V!L

09-03-2012, 12:58

De Gea will be back for the Wigan game. I have a feeling we might see Buttner make his debut too. If he has anything about him, he could be no. 1 LB by Christmas.

dc89

09-03-2012, 13:45

Watched MoTD2 this morning. United back to their old tricks of turning games around, didn't anyone tell Fergie it's now called Manicni Time?

Joking aside, RVP looks ruthless. Scholes ran the midfield when he came on which leads to one question...

How can Fergie not invest in a quality CM when Scholes is 37 years old and he won't be around for many more years?

United will struggle against any team who can out boss them in midfield this season. Everton did and you lost. Southampton did and you almost lost.

Tutankhamun

09-03-2012, 14:53

Joking aside, RVP looks ruthless. Scholes ran the midfield when he came on which leads to one question...

How can Fergie not invest in a quality CM when Scholes is 37 years old and he won't be around for many more years?

United will struggle against any team who can out boss them in midfield this season. Everton did and you lost. Southampton did and you almost lost.

Where do you find a CM that can immediately step in and take over from one of the best midfielders to ever play the game? I think that's the issue, Fergie said a few years ago he'd spend big to replace Giggs and Scholes but there's two, maybe three, midfielders in the world that can replace Scholes and Barcelona isn't selling.

Replacing Scholes may end having to be, by necessity, a multi-man job. Seems very unlikely we'll ever be blessed with a CM of his quality again.

Metal Warrior

09-03-2012, 16:21

There can be absolutely no excuses if you watch someone like Dembélé move to Spurs for 15M. That's all I want to say on the subject.

three3-times

09-03-2012, 16:51

Its not even replacing scholes that is the issue, its the fact we get bullied in CM ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Yet he seems to think we can just outscore everyone all the time.........................."shakes head"

Tutankhamun

09-03-2012, 17:24

I'd bring in M'Villa to bring some truculence and belligerence to the midfield. He'd also be a good replacement for Fletcher right away or when needed if Fletch can come back to his top level.

Think we have enough offensive talent in the MF with Clev and Kagawa to pass on players like Dembele.

dc89

09-04-2012, 14:01

Where do you find a CM that can immediately step in and take over from one of the best midfielders to ever play the game? I think that's the issue, Fergie said a few years ago he'd spend big to replace Giggs and Scholes but there's two, maybe three, midfielders in the world that can replace Scholes and Barcelona isn't selling.

Replacing Scholes may end having to be, by necessity, a multi-man job. Seems very unlikely we'll ever be blessed with a CM of his quality again.

Buying a ready made replacement is now United's problem. If they invested in a CM a season or two ago like every United fan was crying out for then there wouldn't be this problem. You'd have a younger midfielder who has learned from one of the best for two seasons or so.

Many quality midfielders have moved to other clubs and United haven't shown an interest in them.

Spurs almost capturing Moutinho for £22m. United should go for him, he has everything it takes to be a top midfielder.

Yaya Toure is the leagues best midfielder without a doubt. He cost £24m and that's proved to be a steal.

R3D D3V!L

09-04-2012, 14:18

United don't need a creative midfielder, we need a player who can boss the midfield and control the play. Basically, we need someone like Yaya Toure, he is City's most important player if you ask me. I think Cheik Tiote is good shout but he's a dirty bastard.

Tutankhamun

09-04-2012, 14:39

Buying a ready made replacement is now United's problem. If they invested in a CM a season or two ago like every United fan was crying out for then there wouldn't be this problem. You'd have a younger midfielder who has learned from one of the best for two seasons or so.

Many quality midfielders have moved to other clubs and United haven't shown an interest in them.

Spurs almost capturing Moutinho for £22m. United should go for him, he has everything it takes to be a top midfielder.

Yaya Toure is the leagues best midfielder without a doubt. He cost £24m and that's proved to be a steal.

I don't think anyone that's been on the market these last few years, except Modric, has what it takes to reach Scholes level.

jj03

09-04-2012, 14:59

I doubt even modric has what it takes...he's been a proper lazy cunt at times...

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LC77

09-04-2012, 16:47

Buying a ready made replacement is now United's problem. If they invested in a CM a season or two ago like every United fan was crying out for then there wouldn't be this problem. You'd have a younger midfielder who has learned from one of the best for two seasons or so.

Many quality midfielders have moved to other clubs and United haven't shown an interest in them.

Spurs almost capturing Moutinho for £22m. United should go for him, he has everything it takes to be a top midfielder.

Yaya Toure is the leagues best midfielder without a doubt. He cost £24m and that's proved to be a steal.

That was during the "no value" years.

I think Fergie realises he will never replace Scholes and is kicking it down the road for the next bloke.

Tutankhamun

09-04-2012, 20:00

The Ronaldo situation is becoming more and more interesting. Can't help to wish Gill & Fergie will come out and say they've kept all the money from selling him and will now use it to bring him back. https://twitter.com/Cristiano/status/243055091735748608

If Ronaldo wants to leave Madrid, we should do everything in our power to bring him home.

jj03

09-05-2012, 14:35

Tutankhamun

09-05-2012, 14:49

Been keeping an eye on the ronaldo situation...we should defo try and bring him home. He belongs here...he's already acknowledged his love for ot a few times recently...it makes sense.

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Yes. No way we can let him sign anywhere else.

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Angelo Henriquez is now officially a Man United player http://www.manutd.com/en/RobinVanPersieLanding/VanPersieNews/2012/Sep/manchester-united-complete-signing-of-angelo-henriquez.aspx

Good news that.

Metal Warrior

09-05-2012, 21:31

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/05/wayne-rooney-training-seven-pounds-overweight

Wayne Rooney admits he has returned to training seven pounds overweight
• Manchester United striker blames 'summer holiday bevvies'
• 'I struggle to walk for first half an hour the day after games'

Should put an end to a debate we had over here after the Everton game. He should be more professional with the wages he's on. Lets hope he returns in better shape.

Tutankhamun

09-06-2012, 16:29

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/05/wayne-rooney-training-seven-pounds-overweight

Should put an end to a debate we had over here after the Everton game. He should be more professional with the wages he's on. Lets hope he returns in better shape.

Those stories about Rooney returning to pre-season seven pounds overweight all failed to note he had his best ever August that year (2009).

@nickcoppack (https://twitter.com/nickcoppack/statuses/243722936987549696)

Got to love the British press.

Metal Warrior

09-06-2012, 16:32

@nickcoppack (https://twitter.com/nickcoppack/statuses/243722936987549696)

Got to love the British press.

Just imagine what he'd do if he took a more professional approach to training!

Tutankhamun

09-06-2012, 16:34

Just imagine what he'd do if he took a more professional approach to training!

Its hard to draw any conclusions about anything since it was 4 years ago and he had his best August ever with 7 pounds more to his belly.

Metal Warrior

09-06-2012, 19:45

Its hard to draw any conclusions about anything since it was 4 years ago and he had his best August ever with 7 pounds more to his belly.

Yeah but you insisted something like that would never ever be allowed by our coaches. :mrgreen:

three3-times

09-06-2012, 19:49

that rooney thing about being overweight was 3 years ago! but he was out of condition against everton.

i can see him dropping back into a pure AMC rule tbh,

This kid we signed from Chile is supposed to be the fucking nuts! i say SUPPOSED!

Tutankhamun

09-06-2012, 19:55

Yeah but you insisted something like that would never ever be allowed by our coaches. :mrgreen:

The assumption being because it happened once, it happened again?

squirrelbo1

09-07-2012, 00:25

Ronaldo situation is just him doing what Rooney did two years back. He's going nowhere just wants more money.

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Tutankhamun

09-07-2012, 16:19

Exclusive: Wayne Rooney talks about falling out with Ferguson, and his plans for the future

SM: Do you see the next 10 years being at Old Trafford?

WR: Again I hope so. I have said many times that as long as I am wanted here at Man United then I will be a Man United player. Obviously, I had that situation a couple of years ago but made it clear very quickly that I had made a mistake. As long as people want me to be a Man United player, then that is what I will be.

SM: When you look back on your stance two years ago, does your blood run cold and wonder why on earth you did it?

WR: You learn from things. When I look back I realised very quickly I made a mistake. It wasn’t my position to say what I said. I went to see the manager and David Gill (chief executive) and told them I thought I had made a big mistake and can we sort it out. I asked what can we do from here. It took just 12 hours to sign a new contract. It is an episode that I am not proud of but it has helped me because it has given me great desire and hunger to be more successful at this club.

Manchester Evening News (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1588236_exclusive-wayne-rooney-talks-about-falling-out-with-ferguson-and-his-plans-for-the-future)*

Firefox

09-07-2012, 16:37

How many Autobiographies does he come out with? He seems to be talking to everyone these days to sell copies. Most people seem to have forgotten about the saga.. until the injury.

Tutankhamun

09-07-2012, 16:49

How many Autobiographies does he come out with? He seems to be talking to everyone these days to sell copies. Most people seem to have forgotten about the saga.. until the injury.

He only has one other besides this the one coming on the 13th. I'm going to pick up this new book.

three3-times

09-07-2012, 19:00

Pffft, wazza still aint earned my love back yet

Firefox

09-08-2012, 17:14

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt9riE3kjaM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt9riE3kjaM

LC77

09-08-2012, 17:24

Pffft, wazza still aint earned my love back yet

Same here.

No matter what he helps United achieve, I will now only ever see him as an overpaid employee of Manchester United.

Moral of the story is, don't flash your knockers at the neighbours. :cool:

Tutankhamun

09-08-2012, 18:54

Rooney isn't more overpaid than anyone else. The going rate for a world class striker whom can also play in virtually any other posistion is a fair bit higher than what Rooney is on. He could easily get more somewhere else.

That being said, football players salaries in general would make an interesting case study. Whether they are justified or not.

three3-times

09-09-2012, 17:55

Wazza is not world class. he is very good, but he hasnt got the the world class level yet. if anything, he has regressed.

still he is only 26

Phil Jones out for 8 weeks btw, im still not sold on phil, dunno if he will be a CB or a DM. Either way, with Smalling out, fabio on loan and rio/vida/evans finding their way back to fitness, its still a blow.

Tutankhamun

09-09-2012, 19:01

jj03

09-10-2012, 02:44

I like phil. He has heart...defo a united player in my eyes...n i've seen em come n go over the last twenty years...

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Tutankhamun

09-10-2012, 09:01

We're after Fellani. http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/s/1588364_manchester-united-and-manchester-city-on-alert-as-marouane-fellaini-plots-everton-exit?rss=yes&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

three3-times

09-10-2012, 09:09

Dont surprise me after his "apparent" comments yesterday, we should've went for him in the summer, dunno why we didnt address the MAIN issue we have,

If you look at our 3 games so far, we have "got at" by one or some straight through the middle.......

LC77

09-10-2012, 14:58

I don't know many people that would leave Rooney out on a top five list. He'd easily take a spot in any team in the world. At least that's my definition of world class. Not to mention he scored 35 goals total last season. 27 in the PL.

I'll take such a player 8 days a week.

I don't know many people that would have Rooney in their top 5.

My top 5.

Ronaldo
Messi
Iniesta
Van Persie
Kompany

We've had this discussion before, and the current version of Rooney doesn't get into the Barcelona team or the Real Madrid team. I don't think he'd even make the Spanish squad. And if RvP & Kagawa really click, he might struggle to get back into the United team.

My hope is the challenge of having a truly world class player in his way, might just drag him back to his best.

three3-times

09-10-2012, 15:32

Tut - Wazza is above average, at best he is a very good player ATM, ok he scores goals, so can Giroud!!! Yes he can drop back and play the AMC role, but he has REGRESSED!

he aint on no top 5 list in the world!! and i guarantee, like LC77 said, it will be Kagawa with one other, RVP preferably who can do more than wazza currently.

messi
ron
iniesta
Xavi
Aguero

??????????????

Cyn

09-10-2012, 16:55

Rooney isn't even in the top 5 strikers in the world let alone top 5 players

Although I feel United fans tend to underrated him when he's out of form, just as they overrate him when he's in form.

jj03

09-10-2012, 17:12

I like rooney, but he ain't in my top 5.

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LC77

09-11-2012, 14:17

Gill talking out of his arse yet again.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/09/06/3357036/manchester-united-call-for-stricter-financial-controls-in

I hope the other PL clubs agree to this, but add that any club with debts over £200 million will be relegated to the Championship and not eligible for the CL. Wonder if he'd agree to that? :mrgreen:

LC77

09-14-2012, 12:49

Has Rooney never heard of Jaap Stam?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8076733/Manchester-United-striker-Wayne-Rooney-describes-wrath-of-manager-Sir-Alex-Ferguson

"It spurs some of the lads on, but it crushes others," he explained.

"I've seen the manager shout and scream at people and when they've gone back on the pitch their heads have dropped. They've lost it."

This part does nothing for the image of Fergie.

John25

09-14-2012, 19:47

http://i46.tinypic.com/2vl39tw.jpg

:P

Danny2304

09-14-2012, 20:42

Just come on here to say a few words.

Got linked to a topic on RedCafe http://www.redcafe.net/f7/e-petition-release-govt-hillsborough-files-337931/.

I didn't register on their as i'd be reiterating what a few LFC fans had already said.

The loss of 96 football fans on that day in 1989 was not just a shock for Liverpool FC but the whole of the country and the whole football in the 80's - 90's.

Football takes a back seat on things like this and I want to thank all the MUFC fans for their words, now people will realise that it was not the fans fault but the police and emergency services on that day. The whole police-government cover up was a complete and utter disgrace and the British fans on here I hope you realise why we boycott the s*n and hope you will do the same until it's completely shut down.

There has been lots of talk about a MUFC gesture on RedCafe when we play you at Anfield which would be beyond class. I just hope the horrible hurtful Hillsborough - Munich chants will finally end.

2 of the greatest English clubs share 2 of the biggest disasters in football and my Respect for MUFC has risen.

JFT96 YNWA

jj03

09-15-2012, 08:11

Should have always been the case but its better late than never..

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LC77

09-15-2012, 13:47

As much as I wish the sick chants would end at all football clubs, it might happen for this one game at Anfield but the idiots will be back sooner or later.

If you think about it Munich happened in 1958 yet some idiots 54 years later still enjoy taunting United fans with it, even though the majority of clowns were not even born. But, the most sickening one for me, is the one aimed a Spurs fans now that really is beyond sick. And how far does that one go back?

Sorry to say it, but it is a disturbing part of the culture of English football.

three3-times

09-15-2012, 14:12

no offence, but i couldnt give two shits about what happened.

yourmumsface17

09-15-2012, 15:46

no offence, but i couldnt give too shits about what happened.

Surely you can empathise with them? We have had our own tragedy.

Good post Danny, people who mock the football accidents to rile up other supporters aren't football fans if you ask me, absolute wankers all of 'em.

three3-times

09-15-2012, 16:43

NOPE.

Debut goals for all our new boys now!!

Nani a lil off today but kept trying, nice finish by Nick, welbz was excellent, rafa was better, buttner was solid. AND A CLEAN SHEET!

didnt see that coming after the 1st half

http://www.thefirstrow.eu (http://www.thefirstrow.eu/)

you can watch ANY SPORTS ON THAT LINK, i mean ANY

santinomarella

09-15-2012, 16:55

Good second half today! Buttner and Powell with 2 great great goals. :D

City and Chelsea drop points as well which is good.

Surebrec

09-15-2012, 17:53

no offence, but i couldnt give two shits about what happened.

shitty attitude to be honest, sort of what I have come to expect from you. the little respect I had left for you has all but disappeared after this post.

both teams share a common factor in that each has experienced tragedy, fans on either side of the fence should show consideration for what has happened.

I just hope after that remark you don't get all hoity toity and bitch at anybody that calls themselves a liverpool fan who shows total disinterest or lack of compassion for those that died in the munich air disaster, or their families & friends.

but knowing you from your posts in other threads, I'm sure you will.

Danny2304

09-15-2012, 18:29

no offence, but i couldnt give two shits about what happened.

Wow. Did not expect that.

What a fucking cretin you are.

yourmumsface17

09-15-2012, 18:33

Good second half today! Buttner and Powell with 2 great great goals. :D

City and Chelsea drop points as well which is good.

Are Buttner and Cleverley related? :lol:

The Boy From School

09-15-2012, 18:46

lol, I don't even...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X2B-ZUoKf4o

John25

09-15-2012, 20:08

Wow. Did not expect that.

What a fucking cretin you are.

Save your Keystrokes Kid he ain't worth The Infraction.

three3-times

09-15-2012, 21:20

shitty attitude to be honest, sort of what I have come to expect from you. the little respect I had left for you has all but disappeared after this post.

both teams share a common factor in that each has experienced tragedy, fans on either side of the fence should show consideration for what has happened.

I just hope after that remark you don't get all hoity toity and bitch at anybody that calls themselves a liverpool fan who shows total disinterest or lack of compassion for those that died in the munich air disaster, or their families & friends.

but knowing you from your posts in other threads, I'm sure you will.

Omg no, ive lost your respect.....what am i gonna do!

Let me clear summit up, i HATE all things LFC related, but any of you really think i was implying that i was talking about the actual incident yourself, then your up your own ass more than you already are!

For what its worth, i was talking about the sick chanting Danny & LC77 mentioned, i dont care about that, its always gonna happen.

What kind of evil cunt must i be to not have any compassion for people that DIED?! Jog on pal

Wow. Did not expect that.

What a fucking cretin you are.

Misinterpreted my post you did, but i can see why.

So ill ignore the insult against a mod.

Aplogioes to all for any miseterpraation that my post caused.

Surebrec

09-15-2012, 21:24

Omg no, ive lost your respect.....what am i gonna do!

Let me clear summit up, i HATE all things LFC related, but any of you really think i was implying that i was talking about the actual incident yourself, then your up your own ass more than you already are!

For what its worth, i was talking about the sick chanting Danny & LC77 mentioned, i dont care about that, its always gonna happen.

What kind of evil cunt must i be to not have any compassion for people that DIED?! Jog on pal

Misinterpreted my post you did, but i can see why.

So ill ignore the insult against a mod.

Aplogioes to all for any miseterpraation that my post caused.

nice way to try to dig yourself out of the hole you put yourself in.

three3-times

09-15-2012, 21:28

nice way to try to dig yourself out of the hole you put yourself in.

Hole? what hole, im right here pal and stand by my post. If other members misinterprted what i meant, THEN OH WELL!!

Couldnt care less if any of you here dislike me, im here to do a job 1st and have banter 2nd. So........carry on. Im here to enforce the rules

Danny2304

09-15-2012, 21:50

Surely you can empathise with them? We have had our own tragedy.

NOPE.

As quoted.

Couldn't care less if you're a mod or not. Infract me, ban me do whatever you want it's only an internet forum.

manutdfan

09-15-2012, 22:04

Wow. Did not expect that.

What a fucking cretin you are.

+ rep

John25

09-15-2012, 22:07

As quoted.

Couldn't care less if you're a mod or not. Infract me, ban me do whatever you want it's only an internet forum.

im pretty sure that since you didn't attack his Authority on this Forum ,Him being a Mod is meaningless on your Earlier Comment.

three3-times

09-15-2012, 22:23

As quoted.

Couldn't care less if you're a mod or not. Infract me, ban me do whatever you want it's only an internet forum.

Sigh,

OK.

NO i dont care about LFC, the fans or anything scouse related! SO no i have no empathy it that regard. I didnt mention the "incident" as i wasnt talking about that. Think what you want though.

Not gonna do anything to you son!!

And Neil, you follow me on twitter, so i suggest you unfollow if im gonna make you look bad

Nitey

09-16-2012, 00:12

Wow. Did not expect that.

What a fucking cretin you are.

+rep

Firefox

09-16-2012, 01:33

We have the rep button back? Finally! Who do I have to thank for this?

Whoever got rid of it..

http://i.imgur.com/5sTth.jpg

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 01:52

Hole? what hole, im right here pal and stand by my post. If other members misinterprted what i meant, THEN OH WELL!!

Couldnt care less if any of you here dislike me, im here to do a job 1st and have banter 2nd. So........carry on. Im here to enforce the rules

the hole you are already in.

let me refresh your memory:

the discussion in general was about the hillsborough disaster, to which you replied:

no offence, but i couldnt give two shits about what happened.

to me that says you were referring to the event itself (if you meant anything else, you should have been more specific), and if any doubt was evident, your reply to the following question that was asked of you:

Surely you can empathise with them? We have had our own tragedy.

to which you replied:

NOPE. waffle waffle waffle

I couldn't care less what excuses you give after that, but what you typed was in reference to the whole tragedy, no excuses whatsoever could rescue from what you typed before.

I'm disappointed that you hold any position of authority on these message boards after what you have typed, I really am. and from the messages I have received since, I'm not alone.

this is not a slight to all the united fans on these forums, I know the majority of you are honest good natured fans, as are most of my friends, but it irks me to see comments like this from anyone who considers themselves to be a fan of any team, in any form of sport.

I'm speaking from a position of impartiality here (not entirely), I don't support either team, but my own team has suffered disaster in the past, and it pisses me off that some fanboy with a chip on his shoulder, who hasn't got a clue should come out with comment like that, should in any way be taken lightly.

I'd just like to hope that all the honest, decent supporters of all the teams, of this game would choose to distance themselves from this soft of bullshit, it's alright to have a crack once in a while in the name or rivalry, but when fatalities occur, partisan feelings should take a back seat!!!

grow the fuck up!

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 02:24

Who the fuck do you think you are passing judgement on how other people feel? If you disagree with him then shut he fuck up and don't make a song and dance about it, you've said your piece now move the fuck on. Not everybody thinks alike and if you expect that then be prepared for a tough time in the real world. I hate all things scouse related, keep that shit in the scouse forum, tragedy or not.

need I say more?

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 02:55

need I say more?

No, and you can fuck off with your holier than thou bullshit.

didn't think so.

T0PGUN

09-16-2012, 06:45

33x I'm disappointed dude, thought you had a bit more class mate.

And how is this suckers dude still allowed on this forum??

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three3-times

09-16-2012, 09:52

the hole you are already in.

let me refresh your memory:

the discussion in general was about the hillsborough disaster, to which you replied:

to me that says you were referring to the event itself (if you meant anything else, you should have been more specific), and if any doubt was evident, your reply to the following question that was asked of you:

to which you replied:

I couldn't care less what excuses you give after that, but what you typed was in reference to the whole tragedy, no excuses whatsoever could rescue from what you typed before.

I'm disappointed that you hold any position of authority on these message boards after what you have typed, I really am. and from the messages I have received since, I'm not alone.

this is not a slight to all the united fans on these forums, I know the majority of you are honest good natured fans, as are most of my friends, but it irks me to see comments like this from anyone who considers themselves to be a fan of any team, in any form of sport.

I'm speaking from a position of impartiality here (not entirely), I don't support either team, but my own team has suffered disaster in the past, and it pisses me off that some fanboy with a chip on his shoulder, who hasn't got a clue should come out with comment like that, should in any way be taken lightly.

I'd just like to hope that all the honest, decent supporters of all the teams, of this game would choose to distance themselves from this soft of bullshit, it's alright to have a crack once in a while in the name or rivalry, but when fatalities occur, partisan feelings should take a back seat!!!

grow the fuck up!

Omg, do you fancy me or summit? Must you suck off every post i type where you dont agree? Ive never seen you post in this thread so why are you here now? I may just give up my job here so i can verbally end your pathetic ass!!

You seem to think your so superior. Your not, Your just a guy. So step off and stop "harassing me", yes, what you do to me with every F1 post and now in here. Cos im a huge fan of Lewis Hamilton and dont like Jenson Button, you seem to think you can go to war with me all the time? Your such as santicimounous tool. TBH, i didnt break no rules or insult anyone, so my staff position isnt in question.

I will state for the last time so EVERYONE IS CLEAR, I HATE ALL THINGS LFC RELATED, WHILST I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LFC, MY EARLIER POSTS WERE NOT ABOUT HILLS, BUT ABOUT THE CHANTING BOTH SETS OF FANS.......MOST SPECIFCALLY, ALWAYS THE VICTIM ONE.

Keeo all your little 33x is a idiot crap to PM, make a lil group about it, burn effegys of me, i dont care, but im not discussing this anymore. This thread is for man utd stuff only and other football related stuff. If you wanna talk about Hills, then go to the LFC thread. If anyone has anything else to say to me, then PM me. Or go to Cuguy or any of the Admins if you think im so terrible,

I see anymore pot shots at me in here, then i WILL do my job or leave other members of staff to take action.

Topgun, mate, i wasnt referencing hills, im sorry you think that.

Noxia

09-16-2012, 09:56

I fancy you and I want everyone to know.

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 09:57

IMO 3times you should step down as a mod you got a nasty terrible attitude.

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 09:58

Omg, do you fancy me or summit? Must you suck off every post i type where you dont agree? Ive never seen you post in this thread so why are you here now? I may just give up my job here so i can verbally end your pathetic ass!!

You seem to think your so superior. Your not, Your just a guy. So step off and stop "harassing me", yes, what you do to me with every F1 post and now in here. Cos im a huge fan of Lewis Hamilton and dont like Jenson Button, you seem to think you can go to war with me all the time? Your such as santicimounous tool. TBH, i didnt break no rules or insult anyone, so my staff position isnt in question.

I will state for the last time so EVERYONE IS CLEAR, I HATE ALL THINGS LFC RELATED, WHILST I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LFC, MY EARLIER POSTS WERE NOT ABOUT HILLS, BUT ABOUT THE CHANTING BOTH SETS OF FANS.......MOST SPECIFCALLY, ALWAYS THE VICTIM ONE.

Keeo all your little 33x is a idiot crap to PM, make a lil group about it, burn effegys of me, i dont care, but im not discussing this anymore. This thread is for man utd stuff only and other football related stuff. If you wanna talk about Hills, then go to the LFC thread. If anyone has anything else to say to me, then PM me. Or go to Cuguy or any of the Admins if you think im so terrible,

I see anymore pot shots at me in here, then i WILL do my job or leave other members of staff to take action.

Topgun, mate, i wasnt referencing hills, im sorry you think that.

like I said, grow the fuck up.

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 10:04

like I said, grow the fuck up.

Yeah he's a middle aged man with children he needs to grow up, it's embarrassing. Terrible attitude he has.

We don't always see eye to eye on this thread, but decent humans felt sympathy and still do now for what happened at Hillsborough, I'm glad they finally got justice for what happened.

three3-times

09-16-2012, 10:05

IMO 3times you should step down as a mod you got a nasty terrible attitude.

That wont be happening, go speak to Cuguy or an Admin, id love to see what your reason is as no rules have been broken by me.

Erm, pot kettle black. How many times have i let you get away with your crap in here and now you stab me in the back?

Ok. Alright

like I said, grow the fuck up.

Like i said, get your head outta ass, stop addressing me. I have nothing to say to you. Take heed of my post.

Off topic posts are going to now get deleted.

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 10:06

That wont be happening, go speak to Cuguy or an Admin, id love to see what your reason is as no rules have been broken by me.

Erm, pot kettle black. How many times have i let you get away with your crap in here and now you stab me in the back?

Ok. Alright

Like i said, get your head outta ass, stop addressing me. I have nothing to say to you. Take heed of my post.

Off topic posts are going to now get deleted.

yes sir mr boss man sir!!!! :snicker :snicker :snicker

oh and for the record, all the posts I have made since your thoughtless comment have been on topic

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 10:09

Yeah he's a middle aged man with children he needs to grow up, it's embarrassing. Terrible attitude he has.

We don't always see eye to eye on this thread, but decent humans felt sympathy and still do now for what happened at Hillsborough, I'm glad they finally got justice for what happened.

amen to that

yourmumsface17

09-16-2012, 10:10

http://i.imgur.com/FjPLF.gif

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 10:11

That wont be happening, go speak to Cuguy or an Admin, id love to see what your reason is as no rules have been broken by me.

Erm, pot kettle black. How many times have i let you get away with your crap in here and now you stab me in the back?

Ok. Alright

Like i said, get your head outta ass, stop addressing me. I have nothing to say to you. Take heed of my post.

Off topic posts are going to now get deleted.

Nope it's not stabbing you in the back, I'm not going to support your childish, disrespectful, I don't give a shit about anything comments. You need to grow up and lose the bad ass attitude, get that chip from off your shoulder.

yourmumsface17

09-16-2012, 10:19

Seriously though guys, this conversation has reached its peak and it will only lead to negativity, everyone had their say, lets move on.

Buttner looked good yesterday, do we start him or Evra and Anfield? Evra will get a horrible reception at Anfield and I don't know if that'd effect him.

Are we away midweek to Galatasray? Hopefully we are at home, don't wanna be travelling to Greece and back then go to Anfield.

DarkVincent07

09-16-2012, 10:20

Everyone, can we drop all the garbage and just continue on with regular discussion please?

If I see one more attack on any member from ANYONE. I'm going to have to start handing out warnings and/or infractions.

The crap ends NOW.

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 10:22

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 10:33

Buttner looked good going forward, good debut. But he wasn't tested defensively could be a risk starting him at Anfield. Galatasaray game is home.

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 10:55

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_madhbitqp21r93sz9.gif

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 13:23

^^Why is this thundercunt still here?

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 13:27

maybe certain people are turning a selective blind eye

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 13:35

thanks for the advice kid

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 13:36

Classy Man Utd fan as per.

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 13:41

Sound.

Aren't you supposed to conduct yourself in a manner that makes mufc look good? Not just some keyboard worrior that has probably never been to Old Trafford in his life.

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 13:50

sounds familiar!

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 13:55

kids half my age, kids twice as grown up as you, what's the difference? it's sunday son, I'm an adult, I can make my own choices as to how I spend it.

mankind

09-16-2012, 14:02

Man utd is the fucking best, bitches.

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 14:03

Really, mother insults? You've got the brain capacity of a 12 year old.

Surebrec has probably been closer to old trafford than you ever have and he's a bolton supporter.

T0PGUN

09-16-2012, 14:08

fuckin love internet tough guys :lol:

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1337077862471941422.jpg

Chille

09-16-2012, 14:10

fuckin love internet tough guys :lol:

The internet is serious buizness http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/16/pububybu.jpg

Danny2304

09-16-2012, 14:44

Fence chewer, fuck off to your own thread you scouse vermin.

Never been more proud to be scouse mate.

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 15:35

Wow this is Getting ridiculous now!! Some stupid pointless moronic posts.

Firefox

09-16-2012, 15:38

O
you or the 96, they can go go to hell. I've been to OT so you can stick that up your mother's hairy hole.

Yes but remember this, while you're here wasting your time your wife is opening here back door to someone who will actually give her attention.

I have been keeping out of the arguments so that it doesn't escalate.. but this post is just disgusting. You feel the need to show that you love your club so much that you'd say such vile things? If that's really now you feel.. I just don't know what to say to you.

I couldn't care less if you guys argue with yourselves but these kinds of posts don't belong here.

John25

09-16-2012, 15:41

Wow this is Getting ridiculous now!! Some stupid pointless moronic posts.

Totally Agree especially Power Slaves posts.

Firefox

09-16-2012, 15:44

Subrec and 33x have solved their problems but its bewaresuckers who keeps on extending it..

Just stop your posts and get back to talking Football. You must have been banned about 4 times by now.

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 15:48

That beware suckers posts are similar to the posts you see on twitter to celebs, like that boy tweeting to Tom Daley that he let his dad down during the Olympics. Those people have issues and mental health problems.

Terrible, awful childish moronic posts from him.

Surebrec

09-16-2012, 15:51

if you ask me, I think it's someone else on these forums, who is just posting this shit on that account to vent and not get infracted or worse on his other regular account

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 15:55

Thing is it was back onto football talk, then it went back to the non sense again.

How beware suckers isn't banned is beyond me!

John25

09-16-2012, 15:56

My Money is on it being Former Banned Member Power Slave who used to post the Same BS.

santinomarella

09-16-2012, 16:19

Here's a picture of Kagawa kissing the badge to lighten the mood. :heart:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/wp-content/gallery/gimages/another-kagawa-pic-post-wigan-win.jpg

Shibby

09-16-2012, 16:52

Nice to see nobody's abusing their mod status.

>instigate
>warn for spiteful replies
>claim you've done nothing wrong

hmm. sounds a little familiar.. :suspect:

as for the other thing, not even gonna quote it as to not infect more bandwidth, but some people really should have been blowjobs.

Tutankhamun

09-16-2012, 16:53

Fuck me, I take one vacation and it comes to this?

Anyway, got home last night from a quick vacation in London. Visited the Nike store on Oxford Circus what a brilliant store. They had Man United clothing and a lot of other team clothing too. I've never seen anything like it!

I bought a t-shirt and a jacket.

http://f.cl.ly/items/053M1x0t3O360j3a3P3i/tshirt.jpg

http://f.cl.ly/items/2L2h311n1B1m3e042q1O/jacket.jpg

http://f.cl.ly/items/1R1x2n1n3f401C3Z1q2q/jacket2.jpg

If you find yourself in London, I can recommend visiting the Nike Store. It was brilliant.

Anyway, nice we won yesterday. Was at Heathrow when the game began so I missed it. Saw the highlights, got to love Buttners balls to do that on his debut.

yourmumsface17

09-16-2012, 17:24

What is going on in here. :lol: It is so obvious that Beware is trolling, don't feed the troll guys!

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 18:11

Glad you had a good time Tut. Yeah that Nike store is awesome!!

Yeah Buttner impressed, good second half..

Tutankhamun

09-16-2012, 22:23

Fully read every post since I was away.

All I'll say is this, some people come here looking to stir shit now and again. They can fuck off in my not so humble opinion.

Some need to get their priorities in order , this is a place to discuss Man United and related topics. Everyone will have different opinions. No need to be disrespectful towards anyone. You may not agree with someone else and that's fine. But you shouldn't attack them because of that. If you disagree with something, point out the flaws in their thinking and move on..

Not every sentence written needs to be 100% nitpicked for any flaws either. If someone posts something that doesn't seem right and they later explain their position why keep going on about it?

I liked to post here because it was a friendly place to discuss a football match. Lately it hasn't been. Let's cool down and reboot. We're all here because we love either the same team or the same sport. Let's nitpick our similarities rather than our differences.

The Boy From School

09-16-2012, 22:51

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m587/rzagame/abandonthread.gif

Tutankhamun

09-16-2012, 22:56

Please stop with the off-topic posts as well. Your speculation on somebody's wife isn't relevant nor is a GIF stating you're abandoning the thread. Any more nonsense I'll ask for stricter moderation in this thread, failing that harsher options will be implemented that will benefit no one.

I've had enough.

manutdfan

09-16-2012, 23:30

I'm Looking forward to the CL campaign starting on Wednesday!!

Firefox

09-17-2012, 01:10

All I'll say is this, some people come here looking to stir shit now and again. They can fuck off in my not so humble opinion.

I hate this thread being off-topic.. but I have to comment. (assuming you are referring to Liverpool fans when you say "They") They didn't come to stir "shit" up.. they only came in to praise Manchester United fans in relation to Ferguson's comments.. you need to read everything again. Why tell them "fuck off" when they did nothing wrong and in fact were praising your fans.

The person "stirring shit up" is already in the thread. (bewaresuckers) Ever notice how whenever he posts.. an argument follows then he gets banned? Only to return once again of course.

This thread is usually great.. threats of heavier moderation are only going to ruin it.. why do it?

Shibby

09-17-2012, 04:01

No, that's not all you were saying. Not even close.

Only thing getting old is your ignorance. It was actually fairly amusing about 5 bans ago.

Also, in case you missed it, your club released a statement essentially disowning fans like you. Must feel great to be unwanted by your own club.

Firefox

09-17-2012, 05:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBxUyt3YHoQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBxUyt3YHoQ

yourmumsface17

09-17-2012, 07:44

Right, fuck it, not gonna post here for a while. See you guys soon.

Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk

manutdfan

09-17-2012, 08:30

Everyone take heed of the great mans words.

Tutankhamun

09-17-2012, 08:37

I hate this thread being off-topic.. but I have to comment. (assuming you are referring to Liverpool fans when you say "They") They didn't come to stir "shit" up.. they only came in to praise Manchester United fans in relation to Ferguson's comments.. you need to read everything again. Why tell them "fuck off" when they did nothing wrong and in fact were praising your fans.

The person "stirring shit up" is already in the thread. (bewaresuckers) Ever notice how whenever he posts.. an argument follows then he gets banned? Only to return once again of course.

This thread is usually great.. threats of heavier moderation are only going to ruin it.. why do it?

I'm not going to mention any names. Last time I called out a troll I got a ban. But rest assured I wasn't talking about the Liverpool fans. Everyone can see that some people post here seldom and when they do - they only post to argue.

I'm not making a threat, I'm stating a fact. Right now, I'm the thread owner and if things continue I'll request heavier moderation. If the majority doesn't agree I'm more than happy having a vote of confidence and if needed leave the thread to someone else.

I'm going to go thermonuclear if I have to, I'll have the thread locked for a brief period if the insults continue because that's not what this thread is about.

dc89

09-17-2012, 09:01

OMFG Champions League tomorrow!!

Also you have to give it to the City away fans, they have a sense of humour that others don't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnfYnAZJoYQ

Tutankhamun

09-17-2012, 09:19

Looking forward to the CL campaign this year. From our point of view, you'd expect a reaction. Last year we we're under the grass in Europe, can't let that happen again. I think we have a good chance this year of winning it.

dc89

09-17-2012, 09:22

If the thread goes a bit wacky, I.E - posts move pages, I'm just eradicating any evidence of that moron.

LC77

09-17-2012, 12:17

If the thread goes a bit wacky, I.E - posts move pages, I'm just eradicating any evidence of that moron.

Why do you hate me so much? :lol:

Great goal by Powell at the weekend.

dc89

09-17-2012, 12:22

Why do you hate me so much? :lol:

Great goal by Powell at the weekend.

xD

manutdfan

09-17-2012, 12:28

Yeah I always look forward to the CL games :)

CL on Wednesday and I'll watch City v Madrid Tuesday. Then a proper super Sunday Liverpool v United then City v Arsenal great week of sport!!

T0PGUN

09-17-2012, 13:41

has the tv schedule been changed this year in the UK? ie itv now showing the CL games on tuesdays insted of wednesdays?

manutdfan

09-17-2012, 14:58

I think it was like that last year as well, itv losing there grip on the CL

Tutankhamun

09-18-2012, 21:37

Got to love Ronaldo.

Shibby

09-18-2012, 21:45

Need a gif of Mourinho's celebration after the Ronaldo goal haha.

Firefox

09-19-2012, 04:52

Arsene Wenger on RVP:

http://i.imgur.com/A5X5y.png (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/arsene-wenger/impossible-explain-van-persie-loss-063243582--sow.html)

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/arsene-wenger/impossible-explain-van-persie-loss-063243582--sow.html

dc89

09-19-2012, 08:53

jj03

09-19-2012, 08:59

Shit, City got so close to beating the biggest club in the world. 14 years ago today we played Chesterfield in the lowest tier of English football.

Yesterday we almost best Real Madrid, on their own patch. Immensely proud.

I know. But for pesky ronaldo. Tut. I thought city were excellent.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

three3-times

09-19-2012, 09:01

Shit, City got so close to beating the biggest club in the world. 14 years ago today we played Chesterfield in the lowest tier of English football.

Yesterday we almost best Real Madrid, on their own patch. Immensely proud.

Proud of what? U didn't even deserve to win let alone get a draw, they pimped you for 70mins till you got a fortunate 1st goal and then a lucky 2nd.

Granted you attacked in the last 20mins and came very close, but like the great man (jose) said, Real desereved to win!

had to laugh at your fans mugging off Roy keane though!

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 10:06

City came close to getting a famous draw at Real, but Real did deserve to win.

How do you think we'll line up tonight? Just RVP up top or Welbeck or Chicho with him?

three3-times

09-19-2012, 11:10

Rvp
Nani - Kagawa - Tony
Scholes/Clevz - Carrick
Usual back 4
DDG

hoping to see darren on the bench, what has happened to Ando, he hasnt even been on the bench the last 2 games?!

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 11:13

I think Hernandez may get the nod as well.

I'm not confident that Evra will start though, but if I were a betting man it would be my bet nonetheless.

three3-times

09-19-2012, 11:16

Hernadez? nah, he wont play 442 unless we need to for the win.

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 11:22

I really think whomever starts in goal should also play at Anfield. You want a confident goalie with a game to his boots there.

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 11:51

Lindergaard
Rafa vidic ferdy buttner
Nani Kagawa Scholes Carrick Valencia
RVP

I'm not sure if who plays tonight will play at anfield Fergie isn't afraid to rotate his keepers.

dc89

09-19-2012, 12:05

Proud of what? U didn't even deserve to win let alone get a draw, they pimped you for 70mins till you got a fortunate 1st goal and then a lucky 2nd.

Granted you attacked in the last 20mins and came very close, but like the great man (jose) said, Real desereved to win!

had to laugh at your fans mugging off Roy keane though!

Proud of the fact we gave them a game. Proud of the fact this is how far City have come. Of course they were going to best us, they are the best in the world in my eyes, and of course they deserved to win. But we came close to pulling something off something special.

To go and get 2 goals is something to be proud of, we can definitely beat them at the Etihad I am sure of it.

City came close to getting a famous draw at Real, but Real did deserve to win.

How do you think we'll line up tonight? Just RVP up top or Welbeck or Chicho with him?

Close to a famous win at one point! Only Arsenal and Liverpool have beat Madrid on their own soil.

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 12:09

I don't mind rotating the keepers either, but not in such a big game as it'll be on Sunday.

three3-times

09-19-2012, 12:27

Proud of the fact we gave them a game. Proud of the fact this is how far City have come. Of course they were going to best us, they are the best in the world in my eyes, and of course they deserved to win. But we came close to pulling something off something special.

To go and get 2 goals is something to be proud of, we can definitely beat them at the Etihad I am sure of it.

Close to a famous win at one point! Only Arsenal and Liverpool have beat Madrid on their own soil.

Your the richest club in the world and champions of England, you should be able to give ANYONE a game

LC77

09-19-2012, 12:41

Not a fan of rotating goalkeepers, especially a young one. Fergie really has a bad history of managing keepers. He never comes out and says a striker missed a sitter, and then drops him for the error but he's very quick to be critical of his keeper.

I still think the blunder for the Fulham goal, should've been placed at the feet of Vidic. Why was he not screaming at his keeper... miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine?

And on the subject of keepers. Joe Hart. :lol:

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 12:54

Just seems Fergie isn't afraid to make the big calls and rotate his keepers even in the big games. We're lucky to have too good goalkeepers at the club. I think lindergaard will need games to keep him happy.

Shibby

09-19-2012, 14:49

Doesn't matter who you put in goal against us. Any shots we do take are either off target or directly at the keeper.

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 16:43

Doesn't matter who you put in goal against us. Any shots we do take are either off target or directly at the keeper.

You raise your game against us..

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 18:40

Sky Sports news reporting: De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Nani, Kagawa, van Persie. Nothing from UEFA yet.

@nickcoppack (https://twitter.com/nickcoppack/statuses/248475941091803136)

Good team, if accurate.

Shibby

09-19-2012, 18:48

You raise your game against us..

Nah we just drop our game against others haha. I'm more excited to see some youth players tomorrow honestly. Not feeling good about Sunday at all. Don't think you could pick a better time to play us, we're extremely low on confidence. A first win would give us a big boost for the rest of the season though.

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 18:51

You're definitely not on the same level as we. But it'll be an emotional days for Liverpool and their fans and that should fire your team up. We'll need experienced players who won't get caught up in the occasion.

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 20:06

Could work against Liverpool like it did for us against City in the Munich 50 year anniversary.

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 20:42

Good first half. Sopcast has stopped working so having a few issues finding a stream...

Shibby

09-19-2012, 20:44

Since you guys haven't been watching the match, thought I'd share. What a goal from Oscar..

http://images.4chan.org/sp/src/1348082616651.gif

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 20:46

Lucky to be winning need to up our game in the 2nd half, need that 2nd goal. They should of had penalty in first minute..

dc89

09-19-2012, 21:41

Your the richest club in the world and champions of England, you should be able to give ANYONE a game

And we gave them a game, gave them a bit of a worry I'd say, not performance wise but we almost pulled off a smash and grab.

United though, well, I didn't watch the game but following United fans on Twitter told me all I need to know. Average.

manutdfan

09-19-2012, 21:44

3 points

Tutankhamun

09-19-2012, 21:47

And we gave them a game, gave them a bit of a worry I'd say, not performance wise but we almost pulled off a smash and grab.

United though, well, I didn't watch the game but following United fans on Twitter told me all I need to know. Average.

If you give me a choice between almost pulling off a smash and grab and three points. I'll take the points in a New York second 8 days a week.

The Boy From School

09-19-2012, 22:19

Good first half. Sopcast has stopped working so having a few issues finding a stream...

I thought I was the only one having this issue.

It's nice to see Fletcher out there again. Solid player.

Cheech should've scored once. He had plenty of service in the brief time that was in.

three3-times

09-20-2012, 08:01

Lol. Outplayed by Galatasary at home. Still, clean sheet and 3 points..............

mankind

09-20-2012, 21:39

Its my 30th birthday tomorrow and my gf got me this for the party she is having for me :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img337/6350/20120920184917.jpg

Tutankhamun

09-21-2012, 16:39

Sir Alex's letter to fans

Manchester United supporters going to Sunday's match at Anfield will be presented with a letter from Sir Alex Ferguson as they pass through the turnstiles. The letter reads as follows:

"Dear Supporter,

"The great support you gave the team here last season has seen our allocation back up to near-full levels. I want you to continue that progress today.

"But today is about much more than not blocking gangways. Today is about thinking hard about what makes United the best club in the world.

"Our rivalry with Liverpool is based on a determination to come out on top - a wish to see us crowned the best against a team that held that honour for so long.

"It cannot and should never be based on personal hatred. Just ten days ago, we heard the terrible, damning truth about the deaths of 96 fans who went to watch their team try and reach the FA Cup final and never came back.

"What happened to them should wake the conscience of everyone connected with the game.

"Our great club stands with our great neighbours Liverpool today to remember that loss and pay tribute to their campaign for justice. I know I can count on you to stand with us in the best traditions of the best fans in the game.

manutd.com (http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Sep/sir-alex-ferguson-writes-letter-to-manchester-united-fans-going-to-anfield.aspx)

Shibby

09-21-2012, 17:15

Shame that something like that needs to be said. To both sets of fans. Er, actually, wouldn't use the word 'fan' for those specific people. Just 'cunt'.

jj03

09-21-2012, 21:41

Its my 30th birthday tomorrow and my gf got me this for the party she is having for me :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img337/6350/20120920184917.jpg

Happy birthday sir. Hope you've had a top day mate..:beer:

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squirrelbo1

09-21-2012, 22:11

Saw about Fletcher. Lot of time for that man

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mankind

09-22-2012, 08:33

Happy birthday sir. Hope you've had a top day mate..:beer:

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Thanks, I had a blast but drank too much lol.

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 13:04

#MUFC: Lindegaard, Rafael, Evans, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Giggs, Valencia, Kagawa, Nani, van Persie.

@SkySportsNews (https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/249837513487826944)*

Decent team that. The GK rotation continues.

dc89

09-23-2012, 13:10

Giggs in CM?

Keeper rotation is not a good thing. Is Vidic injured?

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 13:13

Giggs in CM?

Keeper rotation is not a good thing. Is Vidic injured?

I suppose Giggs is. He's played there before and done well so not too bothered about that.

I find the rotation curios, De Gea had a great game last game so not sure why he isn't playing. Might be that Lindegaard has looked better in training.

Vidic must have a knock, would have played otherwise.

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 14:18

We might scrap a draw now they got 10 men

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 14:20

We might scrap a draw now they got 10 men

Think we have a good chance to win it. Liverpool had all of the ball but they don't look likely to score. If we can get a goal or two we'll take the points.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 14:23

Evans with a 2 footed lunge but Shelvey is the one sent off. Brilliant.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 14:27

Terrible high, 2 footed lunge from Shelvey and completely classless with the way he acted when getting sent off.

Another poor 1st half from us.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 14:28

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3evY2BCMAE6mBR.jpg

What was that? Even Neville said Evans was a red-cardable offense.

Both players in the wrong, only one gets punished. Ruins the game.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 14:30

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3evY2BCMAE6mBR.jpg

What was that?

A deserved red card for Shelvey. A picture doesn't tell the full story, Shelveys studs right into Evans leg right in front of the referee, Evans dived in too, but was not high like Shelvey.

Firefox

09-23-2012, 14:31

I agree with Neville's position.

From NeoGAF..

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-3f2j8j.gif

Shibby

09-23-2012, 14:31

It was 2 feet and he left the ground, regardless of how high it was.

If you're gonna give a red, both should be off.

mankind

09-23-2012, 14:33

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3evY2BCMAE6mBR.jpg

What was that? Even Neville said Evans was a red-cardable offense.

Both players in the wrong, only one gets punished. Ruins the game.

Wait... if Neville says so it much be true :lol:

That dirty scumbag Shelvey deserved the red card, look at the way he reacted to Sir Alex the fucking scumbag. He is a shit player anyway but well suited for looserpool.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 14:33

It was 2 feet and he left the ground, regardless of how high it was.

If you're gonna give a red, both should be off.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3ew8L1CQAAlUWU.jpg

Fergie smiles as Shelvey mouths off to him, bye bye Shelvey, bye bye.

Firefox

09-23-2012, 14:34

It was a deserved red.. definitely I'm not saying it wasn't but I agree with Neville.

Gerrard...

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 14:34

Standard :lol:

Atleast I was smart enough to be on a Pool win today :lol:

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 14:38

Beautiful.

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 15:11

RVP! Lets hold on to this now.

Firefox

09-23-2012, 15:13

Shame such a great match had to end this way with the dive. Well that's the EPL in a nutshell these days.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:16

Shame such a great match had to end this way with the dive. Well that's the EPL in a nutshell these days.

A dive? He was pushed over...

Firefox

09-23-2012, 15:19

Well most United fans I know agree with me.. it didn't even look like much of a push and the reaction.

Oh well what's the point of discussing it.. it's done.. and I don't really care for the result. :lol: Entertaining match though.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:21

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3e6GPCCMAATfNv.jpg

Push.

Firefox

09-23-2012, 15:24

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 15:27

Good result, shit performance

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 15:28

Yeeees!!! We needed those points. Glad we got them. Makes up for the Everton loss, that's a game you expect to win while you never know against Liverpool.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:30

Gonna get some popcorn and enjoy watching all hell break lose on RAWK and I imagine here too.

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Carragher-vs-Carrick.jpg
Remember when we didn't get a pen for this one. Win some you lose some. We were really, really bad today. LFC were very good as they always are against us and we rode our luck. They can be proud of how they played football today.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:30

Time for a gif. From GAF. In my"opinion" hardly a push.

People have differing opinions on this one. And I have no intention of trolling or care for the result. So I hope someone doesn't become angry and argue like I just said something blasphemous. (just a pattern I noticed after every dive incident here)

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-11xgoqc.gif

Is leg is back preparing to shoot and he receives a push in the back, not going to take much to push over a player on one leg is it?

Poor performance in the end, but that's never what matters in these games. 3 points at a ground we haven't done well at in recent years!

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 15:32

Got to wonder how many RVP can get this season, if he stays fit I think he could score more than last season.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:35

Gonna get some popcorn and enjoy watching all hell break lose on RAWK and I imagine here too.

Typical. Only sing about other teams and can only enjoy something at others' expense ;)

Regardless, good game. I hold my head high for that performance, with 10 men, and a 17 and 18 year old.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:36

That GIF angle shows if anything that it is a shove, in my opinion anyway, to be honest LFC shouldn't have given the ball away the way they did in the first place, were asking for trouble.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:37

Gary Neville has even pointed out that Johnson clipped Valencia's foot as well. Penalty. Liverpool should have had one too, but with the reputation Suarez has and going down like a dolphin performing at sea world these things will happen.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:38

Typical. Only sing about other teams and can only enjoy something at others' expense ;)

Regardless, good game. I hold my head high for that performance, with 10 men, and a 17 and 18 year old.

:lol: Well I thought mentioning going off to fap over the win was overstepping the mark a bit and allowing you all in to my life a bit too much. :)

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:39

Anyway, the fact that the worst we are talking about is dodgy ref decisions, is pretty good considering everything that was at stake in that match.

Er, scratch that, they end the day singing "it's never your fault". Stay classy.

Firefox

09-23-2012, 15:39

Neville saying tackle on Suarez was a penalty.. I don't agree with that either. Entertaining match.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:42

Neville saying tackle on Suarez was a penalty.. I don't agree with that either. Entertaining match.

Oh my, I say a foul on Suarez should have been a pen and a non-United fan says it shouldn't. :-|

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:44

We could've taken the match 10v11, 10v12 tho..

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:45

We could've taken the match 10v11, 10v12 tho..

Grow up.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:45

We could've taken the match 10v11, 10v12 tho..
:lol:

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:46

I've put in my gracious maturity due diligence, nows the time for bitterness lol.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:48

I've put in my gracious maturity due diligence, nows the time for bitterness lol.

I'd recommend a RAWK account for that, some of the posts there are fantastic!

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:49

Already have one ;).

Tend to stay away from some of the mongs there though.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 15:51

BTW SAF's second pen at Anfield. (or was it 3rd?) Good timing.

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 15:51

To me, Liverpool having that much of the ball and creating a few chances and not being able to win this game shows the difference between a top team and an average side. We had essentially two chances and we scored them, that won us the game. Liverpool wasn't able to score on their chances.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 15:53

Sir Alex said that Shelvey blamed him for the red card :lol: I would imagine Shelvey has a RAWK account as well.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:53

Our inability to be clinical is no secret.

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 15:54

Sir Alex said that Shelvey blamed him for the red card :lol: I would imagine Shelvey has a RAWK account as well.

If I was Rodgers I'd bench him, you don't want a player that doesn't take responsibility for his own actions on your team. At least I don't.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 15:59

A red for Shelvey has been coming for a while though. Sucks it had to come in this match, but he's been on the verge of one for a while.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 16:00

Question, why wasn't Johnson sent off for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity? Valencia was pulling the trigger and Johnson fouled him. (he wasn't complaining either)

Corruption I tell you! :P

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 16:02

Now we have to endure 90 minutes of Niall Quinn commentary for the Arsenal City game.

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 16:06

Nail Quim is terrible!

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 16:22

I have also apologised to sir Alex , just where I come from people don't grass people up to get someone sent off.

Tweet from Shelvey, what an idiot.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 16:23

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 16:25

Since, as you said, a picture doesn't tell the story.

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/3980/1348411213439.gif

What a cunt Shelvey is, winning the ball, getting two footed, and not laying on the ground crying like a bitch about it, how dare he.

Crying like a bitch? Have you missed the part where his foot goes right into Evans' leg? Have you missed the part where Evans gets to the ball first???

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 16:35

Since, as you said, a picture doesn't tell the story.

http://imageshack.us/a/img31/3980/1348411213439.gif

What a cunt Shelvey is, winning the ball, getting two footed, and not laying on the ground crying like a bitch about it, how dare he.
Was gonna post this one, thanks.

That gif shows me that firstly, Evans gets to the ball first. Secondly Evans left foot is no where near Shelvey, thirdly Evans goes into the tackle with his studs down, it's a passing motion, not a studing motion.

Unlike Shelvey who goes in with his studs up.

Anyway I am not here to point score, but that's my interpretation of the GIF.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 16:36

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 16:44

No, I said "not" crying like a bitch. Not implying anything about Evans.

Listen, I'm not saying Evans wasn't fouled. He was. I'm just adding to the "Evans should have seen red too" bit.

Have you missed the part where Evans leaves the ground with 2 feet and goes into Shelvey?

I haven't missed it because Evans doesn't do that, Evans dives in and wins the ball, as YMF has said he wasn't near Shelvey. Shelvey is the one who dives in and after Evans has won the ball and gets Evans in the leg, that's dangerous.

Have you missed all the clamor that was in this thread when Kompany got sent off last season when he did much less than Evans there?

Kompanys challenge was very similar to Shelveys, 2 foot lung, legs apart. Look at how Evans dives in, legs together straight after the ball, with Shelveys legs apart there's going to be a bigger range of impact.

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 16:44

They didn't even show the Fergie interview on SS

Shibby

09-23-2012, 16:49

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 16:55

I'd love to go to Anfield to hear the fans signing you'll never walk alone, great atmosphere!!

One of a few grounds I'd love to go to Nou camp as well.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 16:56

Evans dives in after the ball with both feet and wins it, Shelvey dives in legs all over the place, OK yep might have not been fully 2 footed but that doesn't change anything. He dives in, right leg into Evans leg, could have potentially caused a very serious injury.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 16:59

IIRC, Kompany also won the ball when he was sent off. With dangerous play, winning the ball is kind of thrown out the window, especially when you don't win it convincingly, even in the slow-mo gif, their feet touch the ball almost simultaneously, with Evans getting there a moment before.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 17:00

Go and watch the Kompnay Challenge, its a lot different than Evans and much more dangerous.

Shibby

09-23-2012, 17:04

I have watched it, and the only difference is that Nani was already in possession when he slid in.

I'd say in a 50-50 situation it's more dangerous.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 17:08

How are you calling Shelvey's tackle two footed? His left leg is bent behind him until the end.

Yes Evans legs are together, both of them, two footed, studs forward.

Shelvey's is studs forward, but one foot.

Shelvey makes a kicking motion at the ball, Evans makes a lunging motion.

Nice edit from "studs up" to "studs forward" :lol:

Evans left foot is absolutely no where near Shelvey, infact that is the leg where Shelveys studs are studing into.

Evans right foot is at the side, he goes in tough, but fair and he wins the ball. Shelvey went in with little control and was reckless with his studs raised. Regardless Shelvey should have been booked before that when he committed a horrible challenge on Rafael. (It might have been Valencia)

It's amazing how people can have such different views of something they both see, an argument against video technology in football?

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 17:10

End of the day; Go in with your studs up and you run the risk of being sent off. The refs don't have the benefit of Kremlinology on so-so quality GIF's.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 17:10

manutdfan

09-23-2012, 17:12

You could argue both should of been sent off

Shibby

09-23-2012, 17:14

I'm talking about the manor in which Kompany and Shelvey have dived in, resembles that of a long jumper, you often see a player get in trouble for these style of lunges. The difference I see with those challenges and Evans' one, is that Evans dives in feet together and goes straight to the ball, he seems more in control of his lunge and where his boots will end up and as opposed to a wild lunge.

It would be good if we got to hear from referee's after the game, it might well be a case that he sent just Shelvey off as the lunge make big contact with Evans leg.

That's the problem. "Dives in feet together" is the same thing as "two-footed lunge", just trying to ease the impact of the words with different rhetoric.

Once again, I'm not defending Shelvey's tackle. I was only defending that one of you called it "two footed" when it wasnt.

yourmumsface17

09-23-2012, 17:15

http://cadfael.tv/image/src/1348409256348.gif

Looks a push.

Why is it only United's decisions that get this scrutinised :lol:

Tutankhamun

09-23-2012, 17:19

The penalty incident was both a push and the Liverpool's players leg caught Valencia high on Valencia's leg. . The player himself didn't complain that tells you all you need to know about that incident.

santinomarella

09-23-2012, 17:19

That's the problem. "Dives in feet together" is the same thing as "two-footed lunge", just trying to ease the impact of the words with different rhetoric.

It's not the problem, because it shows he is in control of the tackle. Feet together going directly at the the target, the ball. If he legs were not together highly likely one would be going straight into Shelvey and therefore making him worthy of a red card. If the feet aren't together when diving into the ball, there's the potential for more targets getting hit, one could be the ball the other could be Shelvey. Legs together going straight for the same target and gets it.