The Manchester United Thread

[StoneyPS3]

Chelsea FTW?

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2010/05/18/1930683/gloating-chelsea-fans-hijacked-manchester-uniteds-telephone

lol. I saw that yesterday and it made me chuckle a bit.

For the united fans...how much money do you think Fergie will have to spend this summer?

[Tutankhamun]

£30-40 million if he wants to, but I don't think he will spend that much.

[yourmumsface17]

£20 million will do tbh, I think we should bleed in the younger players this season and see if they can hack it.

[StoneyPS3]

I thought around the 20/25 million is what he would have to spend. Wouldn't have a clue who Fergie will sign though and what will happen with Berbatov.

[Tutankhamun]

I thought around the 20/25 million is what he would have to spend. Wouldn't have a clue who Fergie will sign though and what will happen with Berbatov.

I have a feeling they will make a splash with Modric, probably will cut or losses with Berbatov if we get a decent bid. If we can get £10-15 million as Demiant thought it's a no brainer. Might get Silva to but that's a big might.

[desolationw]

Birmingham secure signing of Man Utd keeper Ben Foster


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47819000/jpg/_47819505_foster.jpg Foster signed a new four-year contract at Manchester United in 2009

Birmingham have signed goalkeeper Ben Foster from Manchester United on a three-year deal for an undisclosed fee.
The 27-year-old England international fills the gap left by Joe Hart's return to Manchester City after a loan spell.
Foster joined United from Stoke in 2005 and signed an improved four-year contract at Old Trafford in July 2009.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/8673931.stm

[manutdfan]

It's stupid and blind sighted how people on here keep sticking up for Berbatov. He just hasn't justified the big money spent on him. Like others have said if United get a good bid on him, he'll be gone.

You can see players are frustrated with Berbatov, the look on Rooneys face when he laid that ball off to Berbatov against Stoke and he screwed it wide said it all. Rooneys probably thinking score some goals to take a little bit of pressure off me, so I don't have to start games when i'm 60%. 70% fit.

It's hard to say how much United will have to spend, but I think they'll buy two more players a midfielder and a striker.

[Demiant]

It's stupid and blind sighted how people on here keep sticking up for Berbatov. He just hasn't justified the big money spent on him. Like others have said if United get a good bid on him, he'll be gone.

You can see players are frustrated with Berbatov, the look on Rooneys face when he laid that ball off to Berbatov against Stoke and he screwed it wide said it all. Rooneys probably thinking score some goals to take a little bit of pressure off me, so I don't have to start games when i'm 60%. 70% fit.

It's hard to say how much United will have to spend, but I think they'll buy two more players a midfielder and a striker.
I completely agree. Hopefully we'll get Gourcuff for about 20m and sell Berbs and get Benz. That's probably a bit unlikely, but what can I say... I'm optimistic. :D

[three3-times]

Fergie mind games ? .. somehow i doubt it ..

He made the same remarks last summer and he was true to his word .

If this is the case then its rather depressing.

He talks about believing in his squad and that the youngsters will improve ... but that goes against what he did this season ..

He did not trust the younger players and over relied on Giggs, Scholes and even Neville when he was fit ..

The market is not " difficult " as he puts it, there are players out there ... its just they cost good money ..but thats life and its the same for everyone .

I so hope this is Fergie mind games otherwise things are worse at United than they are letting on ..

[Tutankhamun]

I've read the Glazers wants us to do a big signing to calm the protesters down, I expect that signing to be Modric. There must be a reason he hasn't extended with Spurs He's coming here

[santinomarella]

There may be one signing and maybe we'd like to get a good player to the club, of course, but it's not easy in the present day climate and I've nothing definite to tell you because we're still assessing whoever's available and the difficulties in terms of who you'd bring in.

This is what he said in full at that press conference, slightly different from the article posted above. Its still early days yet, no need to get worked up over something he says this early. He might want to also see how some players do in the World Cup and some players might not want to think about their futures until after the World Cup. Some of you are talking like the window has already closed and what we have now will be the squad for next season.

[mankind]

I am 99.9% sure we will get at least 2 new signings.

[StaticAge]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/19/premier-league-finances

*sigh* :(

[Tutankhamun]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/19/premier-league-finances

*sigh* :(

Can somebody buy the club already?

[dc89]

Manchester United's debt is spiralling, but the Red Knights won't be rescuing the club from the Glazers

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-0-097FFD0C000005DC-637_306x423.jpg

Manchester United fans can expect many more years of ownership by the controversial Glazer family after it emerged last night that members of the so-called 'Red Knights' group no longer expect their takeover bid to succeed.

United fans disillusioned by the burden of debt placed on their club by their American owners have been angered further this week by news that interest on one of the Glazers' loans is set to rise in the summer, costing them in the region of £67million over the next seven years.

And last night the feeling of gloom among the substantial anti-Glazer green and gold faction deepened even more after suggestions from informed sources in the City that the Red Knights are now all but resigned to their bid for United failing.

They are now aware that only a bid far in excess of United's £1.1bn value would tempt the family to sell.

This is something that the group will understandably not consider and with the Knights' plea for United fans to boycott the club by tearing up season tickets falling largely on deaf ears, it is now understood that influential people within the group are struggling to see a way forward.

DEBT LEAGUE
*Chelsea...................£726m
Man United.................£717m
Liverpool.....................£394m
Fulham.......................£207m
Portsmouth................£123m
Aston Villa..................£114m
Tottenham................... £80m
Wigan........................... £69m
Bolton............................£67m
West Ham................... £48m
Sunderland................. £46m
Everton.........................£41m
Man City........................£37m
Arsenal..................... £26.5m
Blackburn.................... £20m
Stoke City................. £17.4m
Hull............................... £15m
Burnley......................... £13m
Birmingham..............£2.85m
Wolves......................... £0.3m
Figures from most recently filed information at Companies House.
Debts are borrowings from banks, financial institutions, owners or other sources

*Although Chelsea’s accounts say
Roman Abramovich had written off
the club’s debts, £726m is still owed
to the club’s parent company
Chelsea Limited.

It emerged yesterday that the controversial £138m payment in kind loan taken out by the Glazers in 2006 looks set to carry a 16.25 per cent interest rate from August. This represents a rise of 2 per cent and would add a massive £67m to the club's debt by its scheduled expiry date in 2017.

Supporters feel that this development will impinge on Sir Alex Ferguson's transfer budget this summer, yet it is something Uni ted and the Glazer s vigorously deny.

The official line from the American owners continues to be that manager Ferguson has as much money as he wants to spend on players, despite his own assertion this week that he will buy only one player between now and the start of next season.

Speaking in America, where he is publicising United's preseason tour, chief executive David Gill was sanguine about the club's failure to win the Barclays Premier League title and happy to let the Red Knights know that their attempts to undermine the sale of season tickets have not worked.
Gill said: 'There haven't been any boycotts. Every game at Manchester United has been sold out. We are envisaging sell-out crowds going forward for United.'

When the Red Knights' plans to buy United first emerged in January, members of the group called on fans to stop buying tickets and effectively force the Glazers' hand. I t is now accepted, privately at least, that it may have been better to put together an offer quietly without any publicity.
Whatever the case, Ferguson's own suggestions this week that he will only dip into the transfer market once this summer will alarm many fans who feel their team were fortunate to finish second to Chelsea in the league by only a point.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/19/article-0-0981A621000005DC-769_468x286.jpg

What was particularly notable was Ferguson's assertion that he will not be looking to replace reserve goalkeeper Ben Foster, 27, who yesterday completed his £6m move to Birmingham.
'Ben Amos will be our third choice goalkeeper now,' said Ferguson.
'He is very talented and has a good future ahead of him.'

Ferguson is taking a risk by not signing another world-class keeper. First choice Edwin van der Sar will celebrate his 40th birthday in October and his deputy is the inconsistent 28-year-old Poland No 1 Tomasz Kuszczak.

It also seems peculiar that the manager is not willing to spend more of the cash the Glazers insist he has at his disposal as he looks to keep pace with champions Chelsea next season and hold off the challenge he says he expects from Manchester City and Tottenham.

Certainly it was telling towards the end of last season how reliant United remain on not only top scorer Wayne Rooney, but also veterans such as Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes.

Giggs, 36, and Scholes, 35, are in their final years as players and the intention two years ago was to use them sparingly as the likes of Michael Carrick, Ji-sung Park and the Brazilian Anderson came to the fore.
But with Anderson injured and disillusioned with life in England and Carrick and Park sitting on the substitutes' bench, Giggs and Scholes started each of United's final seven league games last season.

This is something that Ferguson can not realistically expect to continue into the next demanding campaign.

He has already bought central defender Chris Smalling from Fulham for £10m and the Mexico forward Javier Hernandez. Yet this may not be enough in a Premier League likely to become even more competitive next season.



Sorry to break the news guys =[.

[mankind]

Manchester United To Bid £15 Million For Everton Starlet Jack Rodwell



Coach David Moyes does not want to sell the England Under-21 international...

May 20, 2010 12:29:00 AM

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Manchester United (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/england/97/man-utd) are interested in Everton (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/teams/england/110/everton) midfielder Jack Rodwell (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/people/england/20837/jack-rodwell) and could table a £15million bid for the young midfield star.
Everton manager David Moyes has declared that he does not intend to sell Rodwell, but United could pursue the England Under-21 international anyway.
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson nearly made an offer for the 19-year-old in the winter transfer window, but after relinquishing the Premier League title to Chelsea this season Ferguson could turn to Rodwell to help strengthen the Red Devils’ midfield, according to The Sun.
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The Toffees intend to sign the midfielder to a more lucrative deal to stave off United’s advances.
While Moyes realises that it will be tough to keep Rodwell, the Toffees boss believes that the young midfielder will remain with Everton.
"Are we susceptible? Of course we are, because people look at us and think, 'We can go to Everton and take their best players'.
"But, as far as we are concerned, Jack will be here next season."



http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2010/05/20/1933191/manchester-united-to-bid-15-million-for-everton-starlet-jack

[Metal Warrior]

15m? Fat chance. Considering the prices going around in the current market and the fact he's English, 15m would be fantastic bargain.

[manutdfan]

In the Mirror it says United are bidding for Milner with City. But they might put Carrick in with the deal.

I'd like to see us buy him.

[Tutankhamun]

Depends on the money, not paying a pound over £15m. With Carrick £10m.

[Demiant]

I'd defo pay 20m for Milner... he's good, English, and young. I'm gonna be a pessimistic little ***** though and say with the state of our finances, I'd be happy if we spent over 10m this summer.

[Tutankhamun]

If Millner goes for £20m what would Modric go for? £30-40m? I mean what has Milner done to have such a high price tag?

[Danny2304]

Cos' he's English

[StaticAge]

Looks like Silva is on his way to Madrid BTW.

[santinomarella]

I'd defo pay 20m for Milner... he's good, English, and young. I'm gonna be a pessimistic little ***** though and say with the state of our finances, I'd be happy if we spent over 10m this summer.

I saw this posted on Redcafe, shows were not in as much trouble as what the media "reports"


Presently the club has two different forms of debt associated with it.

1/ The recent bond issue amounting to £500M (secured against the club's assets) which is repayable in 2017 and which will cost a fixed £40M/£45M in interest payments depending on the exchange rate with the dollar.

2/ The PIKs or Payment in Kind notes. These are a high interest (14.5%) form of debt not secured against the club's assets which originally (when the Glazers bought the club) amounted to £130M. They are a special kind of debt where the interest, rather than being paid regularly, is added to the principal. If no repayment is made by this summer they should amount to something like £220M.

In the prospectus for the bond issue the Glazers declared their intention of using £70M of the club's funds to pay off part of the PIKs. It was impossible to do this before now because the terms of the original bank loans, which the bonds replaced, forbade it. Considering their high interest rates, giving themselves the freedom to pay off the PIKs was probably a major reason for the refinancing. In any case it's reasonable to assume that the Glazers will spill blood to rid themselves entirely of the PIKs over the next year or two.

If they can't fund an immediate payoff of the PIKs from club funds it's possible they may resort to another smaller bond issue, say £100M, at lower interest rates to provide the cash.

If they can raise the cash to wholly pay off the PIKs without resorting to other loans then the club's total debt will amount to £500M and annual interest payments to £40M/£45M. If they partially fund the PIK payoff by other loans then total debt might be as high as £600M and annual interest payments reach ca. £55M. They're unlikely to go much higher than this.

That financial obligation must be met from the club's profits before any spending on transfers can be contemplated. Over the last three years the club's annual profits have been £70M, £80M and £90M. Half-yearly figures recently released suggest that next years figures may well be in excess of £100M. And all the indications are that our profits are likely to continue to rise.

So, as you can see, we're actually in a fairly comfortable financial position. The club generates enough income, even after debt repayments, to fund a generous transfer budget. The real question is, out of that potentially large transfer budget, how much will the owners actually make available?

[Tutankhamun]

I still don't like a club being in debt though, it can only end badly. I think a club should turn profit by itself and that's what you should buy players for. Taking more and more loans is not a good thing, no matter how you spin it.

[manutdfan]

Depends on the money, not paying a pound over £15m. With Carrick £10m.

I'd say Carrick plus £10 million for Milner.

[yourmumsface17]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6165431,00.html

Great interview Fergie :D

[three3-times]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6165431,00.html

Great interview Fergie :D

was just about to post this bad news:lol:

Oh well, another season of this ****:cuss2

[yourmumsface17]

Fantastic news :D

[three3-times]

:roll:Course it is!!!!

[Tutankhamun]

What a bunch of crap, that means nothing. As for as I'm concerned that could as easily mean he will sell him.

[StoneyPS3]

Big mistake IMO. He just doesn't look like he wants to play for united or even football. Probably would of got a half decent amount for him as well and replaced him with someone who's been on the old red bulls and can take the pressure off Rooney for goals.

Saying this.... I bet he goes on to have a epic season.

[manutdfan]

Can't for the life of me see how Berbatov staying is good news. We didn't win the Premiership last year, did he take his chances that he had against Chelsea at Old Trafford, did we win that match NO.

Did he step up against Blackburn when Rooney was injured NO. Did he step up when we needed him NO.

Like the Tut man said it doesn't mean anything, if Fergie said yes we want to sell him clubs would know we were desperate to get rid of him. That wouldn't be good when it came to the negoatation of selling the Bulgarian.

[three3-times]

It seems more a confidence boost to him, i cant see berba leave sadly, unless he requested himself! Oh well, most man utd fans hate him and that'll do for me!

[manutdfan]

Well he won't be playing very often if we buy another striker, so he'll be sulking on the bench.

[Tutankhamun]

He's gone sooner or later, if any of the youngsters step up he's gone in January anyway. But if we get a decent bid this summer he's gone then if we can get another striker.

[Demiant]

Well he won't be playing very often if we buy another striker, so he'll be sulking on the bench.
That's the thing though... if he stays than we're not getting another striker. :( Oh well, let's just hope Rooney can stay fit the entire season next year or we're not getting the Prem back.

[mankind]

If we dont get a world class player we wont even finish in the top 2, we will be lucky to get in the top 4 with man city spending and liverpool need to step up. Guys could this be an end of an era?

[santinomarella]

I just don't get the over reaction in this thread at the moment, all of you keep saying if's and but's and have a panic attack over it.

End of an era? of course it's not, IF City spend big, yes they will but what will the quality of players be? No Champions League could cause problems bringing in players to help them get a title challenge going. Liverpool need to step it up? Yes they do, will they? who knows ....

Has the transfer window even opened yet? .... But one things for sure it hasn't closed there is still time, there is still a small matter of a World Cup next month to keep an eye out for potential signings.

Remember who this team is ... Manchester United one of the greatest teams ever! Anything can happen and instead of getting your panties in a twist over scenario's that might happen, why don't you look forward to what happens!!

Stop looking for scapegoats on why we didn't do so well this season, blaming Berbatov and a few other players for a couple a games, was he the only one on the pitch that day? If Berbatov is here next season accept it! if Carrick is accept it! if we sign no one else accept it! If we sign Benzema embrace it! if we sign a young player who we have never heard of before embrace it!

How do we know what is going to happen next season if certain things you want to happen don't? We don't know at all!!! Stop whining over what you predict will happen! wait until something actually happens then moan on these forums or celebrate down the street waking everyone!

:p

[Demiant]

Okay, here's what DID happen, seeing as how we should focus on that. <br />
<br />
We finished second in the league, and the games where it mattered we didn't show up, specifically a certain striker you'll no...

[three3-times]

I love this. <br />
<br />
Demiant is the more 'open, tells it how it is' fan like me, wheras someone u wanna bury ur head in the sand and go on like its all ok!!!!

[yourmumsface17]

I remmber before the 06/07 season we signed Park, VDS and Carrick. I among everyone else PANICED!

I thought game over Chelsea 3 years running! But look what happened. United played fantastically that season and made Mourinho lose his first ever league! :cool:

BTW Rooney did play against Leeds, try blaming him also? Valencia was the one who missed a glorious chance against Blackburn (I'm pretty sure Berba played him through aswell btw)

The transfer window as Santino pointed out isn't open.

Lets just try and believe in the team and get behind them, whether u love Berba or hate him, if he is a United player you should get behind him and support him.

New season, new start?

COME ON UNITED!!! :twisted:

EDIT: Tell it like it is fan... or... typical "we must spend money" whining fan :D

[Tutankhamun]

We need to buy a few players, SAF said in an earlier interview that it had to be two or three changes he said he didn't want to do it but it was necessary. Now he has changed around completely, what gives?

Putting this club's stock on the open market will be looked upon as the biggest business mistake ever made.

[three3-times]

lol!!

i respect all of you btw, we just all have different opinions

YMF's what would you like to see happen over the summer, i dont recall hearing you say what u want!?

[yourmumsface17]

I'd like a top central midfielder to come in. I can't think anywhere else where it is essential for someone to be signed tbh. I'd also like to see some of the youngsters to be bled in more next season, Macheda, Gibson, Anderson (If he classes as one) Rafael

Likes of Cleverley deserve Carling cup runs!

Can't wait for next season

[santinomarella]

:lol: Excellent you proved my point exactly, going on about City and Chelsea spending big, how do any of us know how it will work out for other teams, we don't!!! your getting worked up over...

[yourmumsface17]

To paraphrase Fergie I remember him saying something like.

We only focus on our own club we never look at what others are doing. We just focus on what we need.

I remember him saying something like that :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

...And now we need a new owner so we can stop this crap...

[three3-times]

I'd like a top central midfielder to come in. I can't think anywhere else where it is essential for someone to be signed tbh. I'd also like to see some of the youngsters to be bled in more next season, Macheda, Gibson, Anderson (If he classes as one) Rafael

Likes of Cleverley deserve Carling cup runs!

Can't wait for next season

Yes, the top class mid is a MUST. But who? You dont think a sttriker is a must too? i know we have mach, wellbeck and chic, but can they provide back up to Roo? I know cleverly did well for watford, i hope he gets a chance. Tbh anderson would defo of figured if he didnt get injured, what with carrick being dropped.


:lol: Excellent you proved my point exactly, going on about City and Chelsea spending big, how do any of us know how it will work out for other teams, we don't!!! your getting worked up over something that MIGHT happen! Lets say one or both of them bring in a world class player, does it mean they're going to set the league alight, no it doesn't, look at Robinho as an example, look at the amount of top players that have come into the league for high amounts of money and failed. But no point just focusing on other teams were not Rafa Benitez.

So you want to go back to last season, interesting you pick a game where Berbatov could have done better, what about the defeat to Burnely, why are we ignoring that and only focusing on the negatives of Berbatov's season?

You also proved another one of my points about how we might do the transfer window, you speak as if the window has closed and there is no one else coming in, you speak as if you know what funds are available based on what you have read in the media, the truth is none of us know, we don't know what Fergie has planned, we don't know what funds he has and your just getting worked up over assumptions you make!

And three times, my head is not buried in the sand, I don't say stuff to make the rest of the United fans bow down and agree with me, I say it how I see it, I don't care if everyone agree's or no one agree's I just speak my mind, and I apologise greatly for looking at things in a more positive light, I know it goes against everything that goes on in this thread.

We pick on Berba as its easy, he was brought to score goals and important goals and he failed BIGTIME last season, most man utd fans expect more of a big money signing with proven prem experience. Also, he has all the talent in the world and and should be doing better than he has. when he was a tott, i loved him, so is it poor management by fergie?

I wasnt insulting you dude, far from it. Your just a more postive fan than me! nothing wrong with that!

[Tutankhamun]

I'd like a top central midfielder to come in. I can't think anywhere else where it is essential for someone to be signed tbh. I'd also like to see some of the youngsters to be bled in more next season, Macheda, Gibson, Anderson (If he classes as one) Rafael

Likes of Cleverley deserve Carling cup runs!

Can't wait for next season

Weren't you the one who slated Macheda and asked what he had done to show that he would be a PL player? Now your happy to have him lead the lines?

[yourmumsface17]

Far from lead the lines, 20 appearences (mainly as sub) would be great for him, give him carling cup run, fa cup run, league games, that'll do for him. Berba and Rooney = the strike partnership for me.

Mind you I wander if he would have got that providing he didn't get injured?

I just think the youngsters need to step it up, if they can then Demiats wish can come true of Giggs/Neville? leaving.

... I don't think a striker is a necessity, we signed Chicho, lets give him a chance? We have Owen to!

[Tutankhamun]

Far from lead the lines, 20 appearences (mainly as sub) would be great for him, give him carling cup run, fa cup run, league games, that'll do for him. Berba and Rooney = the strike partnership for me.

Mind you I wander if he would have got that providing he didn't get injured?

I just think the youngsters need to step it up, if they can then Demiats wish can come true of Giggs/Neville? leaving.

... I don't think a striker is a necessity, we signed Chicho, lets give him a chance? We have Owen to!

So you think we'll play a 4-4-2 next season? That's the only way Berba knows how to be effective. As for Hernandez I have no clue what to expect from him, don't know anything about him. Owen tbh he looked like a 4th striker when he played, which is a shame.

[santinomarella]

We pick on Berba as its easy, he was brought to score goals and important goals and he failed BIGTIME last season, most man utd fans expect more of a big money signing with proven prem experience. Also, he has all the talent in the world and and should be doing better than he has. when he was a tott, i loved him, so is it poor management by fergie?

I wasnt insulting you dude, far from it. Your just a more postive fan than me! nothing wrong with that!

I also expect more from Berbatov, the reason why I stick up for him, is not because I feel he doesn't deserve criticism, its because I feel it's gone too far. You said yourself it's easy to pick on him. When fans done the post mortom of the season, the most common thing said was the games against Chelsea and Blackburn, 2 games of the 38 game league campaign, where Berbatov should have done better, what about the other games, what about games where Berbatov didn't play, it seems they have just been ignored to pile more criticism on Berba.

Yes he should be doing better and believe he can, which is why when he lines up for us next season, it is his chance to prove his worth. Some people have said him staying would mean the squad has not improved from a season where we failed to win the league. But Berbatov playing at his best, the return to fitness of Hargreaves, the return of Owen as a good experiences back up, Carrick returning to his normal self as well, all could be seen as improvements on last year without spending a penny.

[manutdfan]

It's just the way yourmomsface17 posted up the Berbatov is staying. Like it's a moral victory for him and that we are picking on Berbatov for no reason, that he's been one of our best players the last couple of seasons. Giving at least a 7 every game. This is no the case far from it.

Were not picking on Berbatov for no reason, it just hasn't happened for him. Time for him be be sold and for Manchester United to move on.

Nobody is just saying it for the sake of it, to be negative!!

[Tutankhamun]

But Berbatov playing at his best, the return to fitness of Hargreaves, the return of Owen as a good experiences back up, Carrick returning to his normal self as well, all could be seen as improvements on last year without spending a penny.

And if they don't step up? All the players your mentioned are getting older. I don't know if I expect any of them to perform there best football from here on out.

[manutdfan]

I also expect more from Berbatov, the reason why I stick up for him, is not because I feel he doesn't deserve criticism, its because I feel it's gone too far. You said yourself it's easy to pick on him. When fans done the post mortom of the season, the most common thing said was the games against Chelsea and Blackburn, 2 games of the 38 game league campaign, where Berbatov should have done better, what about the other games, what about games where Berbatov didn't play, it seems they have just been ignored to pile more criticism on Berba.

Yes he should be doing better and believe he can, which is why when he lines up for us next season, it is his chance to prove his worth. Some people have said him staying would mean the squad has not improved from a season where we failed to win the league. But Berbatov playing at his best, the return to fitness of Hargreaves, the return of Owen as a good experiences back up, Carrick returning to his normal self as well, all could be seen as improvements on last year without spending a penny.

why not put if?

It's no a contest the Berbatov fans vs the Berbatov haters. It's whats best for the club, so we win trophies.

I was chuffed when we bought Berbatov it just hasnt happened for him at United. We can't keep waiting for him to perform on a consistant basis, i'ts not like he's young like Nani is.

Also I'd like to see Hargo come back to his best, i'm a big fan quality player. but thats not going to be a given or easy. I hope so though!! He's quality!!

Owen can't reallly be relied on either he's had so many injuries, but again quality player and I hope he can.

[StaticAge]

It seems more a confidence boost to him, i cant see berba leave sadly, unless he requested himself! Oh well, most man utd fans hate him and that'll do for me!

Um... are you serious? You're glad that lots of "supporters" hate him?

He's in a seriously low-confident state as is it, do you think he's going to play better when he gets booed and gets thing yelled at him? Is he going to want (and be able) to play well then? Does he look happy to you?

Is it possible do you think, that certain players play better when they're feeling confident? Has Nani not proved that recently?

Berbatov was playing very well at the beginning of the season until his injury kept him in and out of the team and couldn't play regularly. No doubt the injury is his fault though.

And no, I don't think he's played as well as expected but he's not been anywhere near as bad as people make out. And it absolutely amazes me how people can "hate" him, and their attitude towards him. He's done nothing to warrant that kind of thing, he's never said anything bad about the club, just constantly saying how he'll try to to his best and how happy he is to be here.

[santinomarella]

why not put if?

I was writing from my perspective and I want him to be in the squad next season, plus it seems like he will be staying based on what Ferguson said.


And if they don't step up? All the players your mentioned are getting older. I don't know if I expect any of them to perform there best football from here on out.

But what if the do? which is why all we are doing is speculating, IF Berbatov steps it up a notch next season then great! IF he doesn't then that is disappointing. The same thing could be said if we sign Benzema, what IF he doesn't live up to expectations, yes I know he younger but its not a given that all young players get better.

Like I said earlier at this point its all If's and But's, the time when we get answers to our queries is next season when we can actually see with our own eyes and not makes guesses.

[three3-times]

Um... are you serious? You're glad that lots of "supporters" hate him?

He's in a seriously low-confident state as is it, do you think he's going to play better when he gets booed and gets thing yelled at him? Is he going to want (and be able) to play well then? Does he look happy to you?

Is it possible do you think, that certain players play better when they're feeling confident? Has Nani not proved that recently?

Berbatov was playing very well at the beginning of the season until his injury kept him in and out of the team and couldn't play regularly. No doubt the injury is his fault though.

And no, I don't think he's played as well as expected but he's not been anywhere near as bad as people make out. And it absolutely amazes me how people can "hate" him, and their attitude towards him. He's done nothing to warrant that kind of thing, he's never said anything bad about the club, just constantly saying how he'll try to to his best and how happy he is to be here.

Actually i am, but it doesnt matter what we think, its SAF who makes the the decisons.

Its been said countless times, he had MANY chances to step up last season and didnt, for someone of this talent and price, that isnt acceptable.

I know he tries, i love he cant be knocked of the ball and has amazinf vison, but goals, as per his job desc are what we needed and he didnt deliver. Id prefer him to play just behind roo as the support striker, but out crap mid wont allow that, hence the 4-5-1!

Im gonna go out on a limb here and GIVE HIM ONE MORE CHANCE, so im offically........................backing berba for 12 more months:help:dunce

[manutdfan]

I just hope we got money to spend, because you got to spend big these days to keep up. If other clubs are doing it you got to.

You can bring in younger players and improve them, and bring players through the youth system. But sometimes you got to splash the cash on established players. Other clubs will.

[Tutankhamun]

But what if the do? which is why all we are doing is speculating, IF Berbatov steps it up a notch next season then great! IF he doesn't then that is disappointing. The same thing could be said if we sign Benzema, what IF he doesn't live up to expectations, yes I know he younger but its not a given that all young players get better.

Like I said earlier at this point its all If's and But's, the time when we get answers to our queries is next season when we can actually see with our own eyes and not makes guesses.

What else are we going to do then speculate, not much football to discuss right now :p

I don't if we can expect offense from any of them (besides Berbatov, if he starts playing well) Hargo and Carrick isn't the offensive midfielder we all want. Anderson should have been but he can't find the net for some reason.

[Demiant]

1. I remmber before the 06/07 season we signed Park, VDS and Carrick. I among everyone else PANICED!

I thought game over Chelsea 3 years running! But look what happened. United played fantastically that season and made Mourinho lose his first ever league! :cool:

2. BTW Rooney did play against Leeds, try blaming him also? Valencia was the one who missed a glorious chance against Blackburn (I'm pretty sure Berba played him through aswell btw)

The transfer window as Santino pointed out isn't open.

Lets just try and believe in the team and get behind them, whether u love Berba or hate him, if he is a United player you should get behind him and support him.

New season, new start?

COME ON UNITED!!! :twisted:

EDIT: Tell it like it is fan... or... typical "we must spend money" whining fan :D
Okay, let's reminisce then and compare. When we won back the league, we had Saha up front instead of Berbatov (Saha was a quality striker, shame he was made of glass, I'd still have him over Berbs nowadays though).

On the left wing we had a younger Giggs, compared to a Nani who's come into his own this 2nd half of season. We also had Kieran Richardson as backup.... forgot about him, lolfailz.

On the right wing we had Ronny, compared to Valencia. Two different kind of wingers.

In midfield we had Scholes & Carrick, both in better form than the Scholes & Carrick (especially) that we've had the past 18 months.

At RB we had Brown, who was no doubt better than the Neville/Brown/O'Shea that we have nowadays.

At LB we had Heinze/Evra, and it's not a scratch on the Evra we currently have.

At CB we had Rio/Vidic... both in top form. Not much difference in our CBs if only that we have Evans as 3rd choice compared to Silvestre/Heinze that would play there back then.

And in goal we had VDS, equal to the one we have today. So:

2010 06/07
VDS = VDS

Neville < Brown
Rio < Rio
Vidic > Vidic
Evra > Evra

Valencia < Ronny
Scholes < Scholes
Fletcher = Carrick (Different roles, Carrick was a great creator back than and Fletcher is a great hassler now)
Nani/Park > Giggs/Kieran

Rooney > Rooney
Berbatov < Saha

So, imo it's 5-4 for the 06-07 team, and where we lack is CM. I also prefer our attacking options from back then, with Alan Smith and Solskjaer to call on when Saha was injured. We don't need much, we just need a creative mid and (atleast in MY opinion) another first choice striker alongside Rooney who CAN play up front on his own when needed.


I'd like a top central midfielder to come in. I can't think anywhere else where it is essential for someone to be signed tbh. I'd also like to see some of the youngsters to be bled in more next season, Macheda, Gibson, Anderson (If he classes as one) Rafael

Likes of Cleverley deserve Carling cup runs!

Can't wait for next season
I agree. I would like the see the likes of Cleverley, Matty James, Craig Cathcart in a few Cup games.


:lol: Excellent you proved my point exactly, going on about City and Chelsea spending big, how do any of us know how it will work out for other teams, we don't!!! your getting worked up over something that MIGHT happen! Lets say one or both of them bring in a world class player, does it mean they're going to set the league alight, no it doesn't, look at Robinho as an example, look at the amount of top players that have come into the league for high amounts of money and failed. But no point just focusing on other teams were not Rafa Benitez.

1. So you want to go back to last season, interesting you pick a game where Berbatov could have done better, what about the defeat to Burnely, why are we ignoring that and only focusing on the negatives of Berbatov's season?

2. You also proved another one of my points about how we might do the transfer window, you speak as if the window has closed and there is no one else coming in, you speak as if you know what funds are available based on what you have read in the media, the truth is none of us know, we don't know what Fergie has planned, we don't know what funds he has and your just getting worked up over assumptions you make!

3. And three times, my head is not buried in the sand, I don't say stuff to make the rest of the United fans bow down and agree with me, I say it how I see it, I don't care if everyone agree's or no one agree's I just speak my mind, and I apologise greatly for looking at things in a more positive light, I know it goes against everything that goes on in this thread.
1. Because that's not where it mattered. The games against Everton/Chelsea/Blackburn near the end of the season is where it mattered. Against Burnley it was an off game for the entire team, whereas against Chelsea it was poor tactics and an off game from only a few players. Against Blackburn it was an off game from Berbs & Valencia. After the season he's had, Valencia can be let off with an off game but when Berbs has off game after off game after off game, there's no defending him.

Do you think it's a coincidence that our season went completely crap after Rooney got injured? Think about it... before Rooney gets injured we're top of the league, and drawing 1-1 at the Allianz against Bayern. He gets injured at the same time we concede a late goal to make it 2-1 Bayern. For the return leg, we're 3-1 up at HT and going through. Rooney goes off injured and we go out of Europe. We also end up losing the league. It's not a coincidence, it's the lack of a proper striker up front for when Rooney's injured.

2. Alright, we'll talk about this again in August but I guarantee you Chelsea will spend more than us. If we spend more than 20m, I'll consider it a GREAT transfer window.

3. Fair enough, same here. Forums are made for debating. It'd be a dull dull world if everyone agreed on everything.


1. Yes, the top class mid is a MUST. But who? You dont think a sttriker is a must too? i know we have mach, wellbeck and chic, but can they provide back up to Roo? I know cleverly did well for watford, i hope he gets a chance. Tbh anderson would defo of figured if he didnt get injured, what with carrick being dropped.



2. We pick on Berba as its easy, he was brought to score goals and important goals and he failed BIGTIME last season, most man utd fans expect more of a big money signing with proven prem experience. Also, he has all the talent in the world and and should be doing better than he has. when he was a tott, i loved him, so is it poor management by fergie?

I wasnt insulting you dude, far from it. Your just a more postive fan than me! nothing wrong with that!
1. I think every Man Utd fan agrees on a creative mid being a number one priority, but sadly if we keep Berbatov than I highly doubt we'll get another ST. Tbh, if we keep Berbs than I don't want another ST because it'll just mean players like Macheda & Chicarito won't get any game time. I'd rather we sold Berbs and got in another ST of course, but that's looking less & less likely.

2. I think it's a bit of both. I think Berbatov's had a hard time making the step up to a team like United, and I also think he was brought under false pretenses in a way. He's been played as a lone ST far too much for someone who obviously can't play the role. I loved Berbs at Spurs, thought he was a superb player. Unfortunately, we're ruining his career.


Far from lead the lines, 20 appearences (mainly as sub) would be great for him, give him carling cup run, fa cup run, league games, that'll do for him. Berba and Rooney = the strike partnership for me.

Mind you I wander if he would have got that providing he didn't get injured?

I just think the youngsters need to step it up, if they can then Demiats wish can come true of Giggs/Neville? leaving.

... I don't think a striker is a necessity, we signed Chicho, lets give him a chance? We have Owen to!
Again, if we keep Berbs than a striker definitely isn't a necessity, I agree. I'd rather we ***** all our money on a top class mid than half on a mid and half on a striker.


So you think we'll play a 4-4-2 next season? That's the only way Berba knows how to be effective. As for Hernandez I have no clue what to expect from him, don't know anything about him. Owen tbh he looked like a 4th striker when he played, which is a shame.
I think it depends on who we get in the summer. If we get a top class mid, than I think we'll play 442 more often. I think Fergie MUST be thinking 442 with the number of strikers we have otherwise he wouldn't have bought Chicarito.


Um... are you serious? You're glad that lots of "supporters" hate him?

He's in a seriously low-confident state as is it, do you think he's going to play better when he gets booed and gets thing yelled at him? Is he going to want (and be able) to play well then? Does he look happy to you?

Is it possible do you think, that certain players play better when they're feeling confident? Has Nani not proved that recently?

Berbatov was playing very well at the beginning of the season until his injury kept him in and out of the team and couldn't play regularly. No doubt the injury is his fault though.

And no, I don't think he's played as well as expected but he's not been anywhere near as bad as people make out. And it absolutely amazes me how people can "hate" him, and their attitude towards him. He's done nothing to warrant that kind of thing, he's never said anything bad about the club, just constantly saying how he'll try to to his best and how happy he is to be here.
Don't use Nani in an example of playing with confidence. Midseason, everyone wanted him out (Fergie included). His confidence COULDN'T be lower. The reason he stepped it up is because he knew it was either that or the door. Plus he himself has come out and said he'd trained harder this season than any other year of his life, so it goes to show that when he sets his mind to it, he can play well.

And I don't HATE Berbatov, I just want him out. There's a difference. There is no United player I hate, hated, or ever will hate. The closest is probably Tevez but I understand why he left... still think he's a little pr*ck though.

What else are we going to do then speculate, not much football to discuss right now :p

I don't if we can expect offense from any of them (besides Berbatov, if he starts playing well) Hargo and Carrick isn't the offensive midfielder we all want. Anderson should have been but he can't find the net for some reason.
I think if we get Hargreaves back fit for next season, it'll almost be like a new signing.

So, I'm interested in other people's opinions. With this exact same squad, minus Foster and plus Chicarito & Smalling, who thinks we're good enough to win the league and who thinks we're not?

I think we're not, but you probably already guessed that. :D

[Tutankhamun]

It depends on how many injuries we have, plus how the other teams signings works out (and ours) We were only 1 point off this season, got to stay optimistic :p

[StaticAge]

About two years ago exactly, right to this very time, we were just coming up to the end of extra time and heading for penalties in the Champion's League final.

[mankind]

The team we have right now I dont think we will win the league.

[Tutankhamun]

Anyone watching the CL final tonight? I'm still to dissapointed to watch it.

[yourmumsface17]

^^ Neh got better plans than watching Bayern fluke their way through another game lol

[Tutankhamun]

^^ Neh got better plans than watching Bayern fluke their way through another game lol

Haha, rather watch paint dry on a wall tbh :p Going to be the most boring CL final in years probably.

Not sure I'll watch to much of the World Cup either, Sweden didn't quailify.. Migh watch England to see how Rooney does.

[Demiant]

Anyone watching the CL final tonight? I'm still to dissapointed to watch it.
Yeah I'm definitely watching it. I don't really mind who wins, just want it to be a good game.


^^ Neh got better plans than watching Bayern fluke their way through another game lol
They fluked their way against us? I thought it was more about our ineptness at keeping a 3-0 lead at OT than them "fluking" it. And they really fluked their way against Lyon, winning 4-0 on aggregate. The only team I'd say they "fluked it" against was probably Fiorentina with their offside goal in the final minutes of the first leg, but then it evens out with Fiorentina's offside goal in the 2nd. Admit they were the better team and deserved to get to the final, makes you sound very bitter otherwise.


Haha, rather watch paint dry on a wall tbh :p Going to be the most boring CL final in years probably.

Not sure I'll watch to much of the World Cup either, Sweden didn't quailify.. Migh watch England to see how Rooney does.
I don't agree with this either. Just because there isn't Barca or an English team in the final doesn't make it boring.

On the one hand you have Bayern who knocked us out, knocked out a Lyon that knocked out Real Madrid, and knocked out a Fiorentina that finished top of their group in which they had Lyon/Liverpool.

On the other hand you have Inter Milan who knocked out Barcelona with one of the best defensive displays I've seen in a long time, and knocked out Chelsea by beating them twice (2-1 at San Siro and 1-0 at SB), something we couldn't even do ONCE this season. Heck, we couldn't even get a draw out of the two games.

Both teams will do the treble if they win, both teams have great managers, and both teams have quality players. Bayern go in as slight underdogs but I think that actually suits them. I predict a narrow win for Inter Milan (3-2 imo... gonna be optimistic with a lot of goals), with Eto'o bagging one.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah I'm definitely watching it. I don't really mind who wins, just want it to be a good game.


They fluked their way against us? I thought it was more about our ineptness at keeping a 3-0 lead at OT than them "fluking" it. And they really fluked their way against Lyon, winning 4-0 on aggregate. The only team I'd say they "fluked it" against was probably Fiorentina with their offside goal in the final minutes of the first leg, but then it evens out with Fiorentina's offside goal in the 2nd. Admit they were the better team and deserved to get to the final, makes you sound very bitter otherwise.


I don't agree with this either. Just because there isn't Barca or an English team in the final doesn't make it boring.

On the one hand you have Bayern who knocked us out, knocked out a Lyon that knocked out Real Madrid, and knocked out a Fiorentina that finished top of their group in which they had Lyon/Liverpool.

On the other hand you have Inter Milan who knocked out Barcelona with one of the best defensive displays I've seen in a long time, and knocked out Chelsea by beating them twice (2-1 at San Siro and 1-0 at SB), something we couldn't even do ONCE this season. Heck, we couldn't even get a draw out of the two games.

Both teams will do the treble if they win, both teams have great managers, and both teams have quality players. Bayern go in as slight underdogs but I think that actually suits them. I predict a narrow win for Inter Milan (3-2 imo... gonna be optimistic with a lot of goals), with Eto'o bagging one.

Look at their goals in the first leg, both were a joke, a hugely deflected freekick (which if i remember rightly was a contentious freekick anyway) and a ridiculous mistake from Evra. Second leg it took the Germans to surround the ref to get Rafael sent off (although Rafael shouldn't have been stupid enough to put his hands on one of their fairies) it's so frustrating United are so much better than Bayern and should be in the final tbh. Grrr was Porto 04 all over again :bang: :lol:

And the Florentina game was a joke tbh

But it happened their in the final, just that game makes me so mad when i look at it :angry

[mankind]

I wont be watching I will be at the pubs getting drunk :)

[yourmumsface17]

Waaay^^ , that's what i'm doing most Saturdays :D hehe

[powerslave205]

Haha, rather watch paint dry on a wall tbh :p Going to be the most boring CL final in years probably.

Not sure I'll watch to much of the World Cup either, Sweden didn't quailify.. Migh watch England to see how Rooney does.

I am very happy that that scumbag Ibrahimovich is not in the WC, I hate that guy.

[Tutankhamun]

I am very happy that that scumbag Ibrahimovich is not in the WC, I hate that guy.

I'm not a fan either but he's by a mile the best player ever that came out from Sweden so you got to respect him for that. But I wouldn't want him at United.

[Demiant]

Look at their goals in the first leg, both were a joke, a hugely deflected freekick (which if i remember rightly was a contentious freekick anyway) and a ridiculous mistake from Evra. Second leg it took the Germans to surround the ref to get Rafael sent off (although Rafael shouldn't have been stupid enough to put his hands on one of their fairies) it's so frustrating United are so much better than Bayern and should be in the final tbh. Grrr was Porto 04 all over again :bang: :lol:

And the Florentina game was a joke tbh

But it happened their in the final, just that game makes me so mad when i look at it :angry
I hate that opinion. Seriously. We didn't get robbed (like Chelsea v Barca)... we went out due to our own mistakes. Going by your logic, we're lucky to have finished 2nd what with all the OGs we've had this season, mistakes made by opposition defenders, dodgy penos (Valencia v Liverpool), deflected shots... Bayern deservedly went through against us, that's all there is to it.


I'm not a fan either but he's by a mile the best player ever that came out from Sweden so you got to respect him for that. But I wouldn't want him at United.
I wouldn't want him at Utd. First off, he's on epic wages and second... we basically have the same player in Berbatov. They're VERY similiar players, so Ibra can stay at Barca.

And I don't think Ibra's the best player to come out of Sweden... imo it's Larsson. One of the best strikers I've seen in my lifetime so far. Ibra's not even close.

[Tutankhamun]

I wouldn't want him at Utd. First off, he's on epic wages and second... we basically have the same player in Berbatov. They're VERY similiar players, so Ibra can stay at Barca.

And I don't think Ibra's the best player to come out of Sweden... imo it's Larsson. One of the best strikers I've seen in my lifetime so far. Ibra's not even close.

No he wouldn't fit at United, to poor attitude. And yes Larsson should be number one, forgot about him. Ibra is second though imo. He has scored some epic goals for the national team.

[yourmumsface17]

I hate that opinion. Seriously. We didn't get robbed (like Chelsea v Barca)... we went out due to our own mistakes. Going by your logic, we're lucky to have finished 2nd what with all the OGs we've had this season, mistakes made by opposition defenders, dodgy penos (Valencia v Liverpool), deflected shots... Bayern deservedly went through against us, that's all there is to it.


I wouldn't want him at Utd. First off, he's on epic wages and second... we basically have the same player in Berbatov. They're VERY similiar players, so Ibra can stay at Barca.

And I don't think Ibra's the best player to come out of Sweden... imo it's Larsson. One of the best strikers I've seen in my lifetime so far. Ibra's not even close.

I hate that opinion. Seriously. Going by my logic you could also argue Chelsea were bleddy lucky to win the league to, both the games against us were jokes tbh.

I'll be honest I am bitter we didn't get to the final, damn straight I am, it's the same with Porta 04, absolutely haunts me (Scholes "offside" goal :bang:) I just think Bayern were well and truly there for the taking and the goals they scored just make me mad :(

anyway... I give up arguing.

Congrats to Inter! Well played, took probably the most difficult route you can take to a final and did it, bravo Mourinho.

Mourinho to Madrid? That would be interesting as they insist on playing "beautiful" football. Would they sacrifice it for success?

[John25]

well it looks like theres no chance of your lot getting Milner because of the leeds connection and also because he wants to play for the Kopites.

Also Larrson was in a league of his own compared to Ibra

[Tutankhamun]

Wouldn't want Milner for that price anyway, you can get way better players for less. Let's get Modric.

[Suley]

Wouldn't want Milner for that price anyway, you can get way better players for less. Let's get Modric.
Modric is much better than Milner. But I don't see Spurs letting him go.. especially since they could be in the champions league next year. They'll be looking to strenghten not get rid off one of their best player.

[Demiant]

Tbh, I don't think Spurs would sell Modders so we'd be better off looking at other targets. Gourcuff, imo... considering Bordeaux didn't even make Europa League and Blanc/Chamakh (two of his friends at Bordeaux) left.

[yourmumsface17]

Tbh, I don't think Spurs would sell Modders so we'd be better off looking at other targets. Gourcuff, imo... considering Bordeaux didn't even make Europa League and Blanc/Chamakh (two of his friends at Bordeaux) left.
If he is as good as everyone says, strike now def, like you said they've lost 2 key people and maybe he would wanna join!

[bigdec]

Manchester United v Blackpool sounds good to me!

[Tutankhamun]

Regarding Modric; This isn't about what Spurs want, this is about what we want. Make them an offer they can't refuse. Money solves everything. I'd happily blow our entire budget this year on Modric. We should get something for Carrick to.

[dc89]

Manchester United v Blackpool sounds good to me!

I fancy them to upset a few clubs you know:

I hope we kill them after this:

YouTube- Adebayor song in Blackpool dressing room

[Cyn]

The feeling I get from a lot of United fans is you don't actually like football ver much. You just support Man United. How can you ridicule the CL final? Or say you aren't gonna watch the greatest show on earth, the world cup?

England weren't in Euro 08 but I still enjoyed every second that I watched of it.

[yourmumsface17]

The feeling I get from a lot of United fans is you don't actually like football ver much. You just support Man United. How can you ridicule the CL final? Or say you aren't gonna watch the greatest show on earth, the world cup?

England weren't in Euro 08 but I still enjoyed every second that I watched of it.
I'll take the flak here, I did say I wasn't looking forward to the WC (but I was still depressed from the league title result tbf :lol:) and now i'm warming to it and looking forward to it, and the euros were great, really enjoyed them.

I did end up watching the champ league final in the end, well loosely, was ok, just didn't have much interest in either team tbh. Dunno if that makes me "not a football fan".

I prefer club football personally, that's just for me, doesn't mean I don't like football though.

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah I prefer club football to. But I'm going to watch England to see how Rooney does and obvously I'll watch the finale no matter who plays.

As for CL, I support United I don't care about cups when United is eliminated, I don't watch the FA cup when United isn't plating either.

[Cyn]

A lot of people prefer club football in general, myself included, because the team has much longer to gel and the quality of top teams are better than anything seen at international level. And you have your own club and it's almost a tribal thing, I get all that - but International football tournaments just have something special about them. It's like a carnival of sport that the whole world enjoys together.



As for CL, I support United I don't care about cups when United is eliminated, I don't watch the FA cup when United isn't plating either.
This is the attitude I just don't get. It sounds so bitter. I love watching as a neutral just as much as watching Arsenal. It lets you enjoy the game in a whole other way

[Tutankhamun]

This is the attitude I just don't get. It sounds so bitter. I love watching as a neutral just as much as watching Arsenal. It lets you enjoy the game in a whole other way

I am bitter so your probably right :lol: But I must confess I enjoyed Spurs -Chelsea and Man City -Spurs a lot, so maybe I should start watching neutral games more :p

[santinomarella]

I love watching football! If there's a match on TV, chances are I'm watching it. :lol: Enjoy watching MOTD and Football First too.

Not a big fan of international football, but when a World Cup or Euro is on its awesome!! can't wait for World Cup! :D

[manutdfan]

Watched the Champions league final in a pub with mates, was a decent game. Missed the opening goal though was in the toilets with the white lady.

[Tutankhamun]

Watched the Champions league final in a pub with mates, was a decent game. Missed the open goal though was in the toilets with the white lady.

What does that mean? That's an expression I've never heard and Wikipedia seems to think you were in the toilets with a ghost or a female spirit and somehow I doubt that. But you never know I guess :lol:

[manutdfan]

What does that mean? That's an expression I've never heard and Wikipedia seems to think you were in the toilets with a ghost or a female spirit and somehow I doubt that. But you never know I guess :lol:

LOL!!

Candy cane. :snicker

[Demiant]

A lot of people prefer club football in general, myself included, because the team has much longer to gel and the quality of top teams are better than anything seen at international level. And you have your own club and it's almost a tribal thing, I get all that - but International football tournaments just have something special about them. It's like a carnival of sport that the whole world enjoys together.


This is the attitude I just don't get. It sounds so bitter. I love watching as a neutral just as much as watching Arsenal. It lets you enjoy the game in a whole other way
I completely agree. I love club football more than international football but the world cup > anything at club level. Now that club football is over, I'm all for France at the WC and I'm anticipating the WC more than anything atm. Once it's over, I'll start looking forward to the start of next season but for now I'm only looking forward to the big one.

[Tutankhamun]

LOL!!

Candy cane. :snicker

So your telling me you were either doing cocaine, or doing something I can't describe because it's not suitable for minors (or anyone else for that matter) but is described Here (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=candycane)

[yourmumsface17]

So your telling me you were either doing cocaine, or doing something I can't describe because it's not suitable for minors (or anyone else for that matter) but is described Here (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=candycane)
Are we really discussing these things :lol:...the subject is crying for change!

Errrrm... How do we think Mourinho will do at the circus?

[Tutankhamun]

Are we really discussing these things :lol:...the subject is crying for change!

Errrrm... How do we think Mourinho will do at the circus?

I had to ask^^

I think Mourinho will do fine, only problem is RM's patience, if things go slow in the beginning how long will they give him?

[Demiant]

He's one of the best managers in football, and he's proved more than once that with the right financial backing, he'll win you trophies. IF he does go to Madrid, I fully expect them to do well, winning atleast 2 leagues and 1 CL in 3 years. Heard it here first.

[mankind]

The feeling I get from a lot of United fans is you don't actually like football ver much. You just support Man United. How can you ridicule the CL final? Or say you aren't gonna watch the greatest show on earth, the world cup?

England weren't in Euro 08 but I still enjoyed every second that I watched of it.



I love football, I watch as much matches as I can, I even pay the xtra £10.00 a month for espn so I can watch football. Im looking forward to the world cup even tho rep of ireland were robbed. I watch other teams and enjoy it but I never miss a united game.

[yourmumsface17]

IF they let Mourinho do his job then I agree with Demiant. IF they impose players on him that he doesn't want (just like Shevchenko) and he gets mad as he has a lack of control that he wants, then I expect him to leave after a year tbh. He won't get messed about.

But if their clever enough to let him do his job, then Madrid may just beat Barca to la liga.

Do you think theres a chance for him to suffer a Capello like fate, win the league but not in the fashion that they expect?

[Demiant]

I love football, I watch as much matches as I can, I even pay the xtra £10.00 a month for espn so I can watch football. Im looking forward to the world cup even tho rep of ireland were robbed. I watch other teams and enjoy it but I never miss a united game.
Sry bout that... if it helps, we don't like Henry over here either. :D


IF they let Mourinho do his job then I agree with Demiant. IF they impose players on him that he doesn't want (just like Shevchenko) and he gets mad as he has a lack of control that he wants, then I expect him to leave after a year tbh. He won't get messed about.

But if their clever enough to let him do his job, then Madrid may just beat Barca to la liga.

Do you think theres a chance for him to suffer a Capello like fate, win the league but not in the fashion that they expect?
Yeah I definitely think that's a possibility, but I think as long as they win it back from Barca they won't really care. Plus, Mourinho played defensive football with Chelsea but he doesn't play very defensive with Inter. They're one of the best defensive teams in Europe, doesn't necessarily mean they play defensive footy. :)

[Tutankhamun]

Rodwell will sign a new deal at Everton so we can count him out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/may/24/jack-rodwell-five-year-deal-everton

[Danny2304]

Rodwell is brilliant but a bad tit.

Seen him in the chippy by mine and he budged passed my mate. Was funny :lol:

[yourmumsface17]

Sry bout that... if it helps, we don't like Henry over here either. :D


Yeah I definitely think that's a possibility, but I think as long as they win it back from Barca they won't really care. Plus, Mourinho played defensive football with Chelsea but he doesn't play very defensive with Inter. They're one of the best defensive teams in Europe, doesn't necessarily mean they play defensive footy. :)
True, correct me if i'm wrong (could very well be way off) but I didn't think his Porto side was completely defensive, maybe he's just waiting for the right set of attacking players before setting his team out in a flair like attacking mindset... you know a team with Kaka, Ronaldo, Higuain, Alonso in it :snicker

[Metal Warrior]

True, correct me if i'm wrong (could very well be way off) but I didn't think his Porto side was completely defensive, maybe he's just waiting for the right set of attacking players before setting his team out in a flair like attacking mindset... you know a team with Kaka, Ronaldo, Higuain, Alonso in it :snicker

The first thing he'll do with that team is introduce positional discipline and make his "flair" players do their share of defensive work. Which will be the key to making the current Real Madrid a truly fearsome opponent. Think back to our successful 07-08 season. That success was founded upon a brilliant defensive unit and the ability to grind out wins and draws in away games, especially in Europe. This doesn't rule out good attacking football, as we so often showed that season.

But don't expect him to place less emphasis on defence just because he has a lot of flair players.

[Tutankhamun]

So, anyone else kind of worried that a lot of teams are announcing signings and extension and we still haven't done anything. Are we doing everything after the WC or what's the matter?

[StaticAge]

I doubt we'll sign anyone else. Maybe one another youngster or something but I no huge signings like people seem to be expecting.

[Tutankhamun]

I doubt we'll sign anyone. Maybe one another youngster or something but I no huge signings like people seem to be expecting.

God, another season with our midfield scares me. I mean we can no longer have a midfield where Scholes and Giggs are the cornerstones. I'm rather fine with the wings but we defiantly need a new offensive midfielder.

[squirrelbo1]

voted other in the poll. think you should bring in emile heskey, and think perhaps almunia as goal keeper

[Tutankhamun]

voted other in the poll. think you should bring in emile heskey, and think perhaps almunia as goal keeper

Yeah, then maybe we can get Gattuso and Pirlo, then were set for the next 10 years... Oh wait...

[yourmomsboat]

We should buy Maicon as replacement for Gary Neville, then have Rafael as back up. He's one for the future.

Take advantage of Mourinho leaving, or maybe he will go with him to Real.

[Tutankhamun]

We should buy Maicon as replacement for Gary Neville, then have Rafael as back up. He's one for the future.

Take advantage of Mourinho leaving, or maybe he will go with him to Real.

Are you in anyway related to yourmumsface?

[yourmumsface17]

We should buy Maicon as replacement for Gary Neville, then have Rafael as back up. He's one for the future.

Take advantage of Mourinho leaving, or maybe he will go with him to Real.
yourmomsboat....

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :D

[Tutankhamun]

yourmomsboat....

imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :D

Indeed! If someone doesn't signup with a name of another Egyptian pharaoh I'm going to be disappointed.

[yourmumsface17]

Indeed! If someone doesn't signup with a name of another Egyptian pharaoh I'm going to be disappointed.
I know exactly who it is too, bless him.

[StaticAge]

Is yourmomsboat manutdfan?

[Tutankhamun]

Is yourmomsboat manutdfan?

Nah I don't think so.

[yourmumsface17]

Staticage, have a gold star :P

[StaticAge]

Staticage, have a gold star :P

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

[Tutankhamun]

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

http://www.touchpointcoaching.com/blog/wp-content/themes/Stained/images/gold_star.jpg

[three3-times]

have i missed summit??

[Tutankhamun]

have i missed summit??

Yeah look back the last page, something weird is going on.

[three3-times]

obv u forget i can see accounts attached to IP address!! Why have u got another account manutdfan?!

[yourmomsboat]

What about using some of the youngsters as bargiang tools, loan them to the clubs we want to buy players off.

[yourmumsface17]

obv u forget i can see accounts attached to IP address!! Why have u got another account manutdfan?!
I'm pretty sure he is Petergriffith to hehe

[squirrelbo1]

i see the banhammer

[yourmumsface17]

lol funny if he gets banned just for imitating me :P Hernandez is on!

[Tutankhamun]

lol funny if he gets banned just for imitating me :P Hernandez is on!

If he get's banned it's because he has more then one account, your only allowed to have one.

And watch Hernandez closely your going to give us all a professional scouting :p

[three3-times]

is chich on ??

forgot this was on.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeh, he came on.

Professional scout? *gulp* I've been revising/on the phone for the last 10 minutes. I havn't even heard his name been said yet lol

[Tutankhamun]

Yeh, he came on.

Professional scout? *gulp* I've been revising/on the phone for the last 10 minutes. I havn't even heard his name been said yet lol

Lol then I guess we're going to have to wait until he plays for United :p

[yourmumsface17]

Hopefully that'll be August hehe :)

[three3-times]

where is chich now?

Y u lot talking about hernanez?

[Tutankhamun]

where is chich now?

Y u lot talking about hernanez?

Hernandez, apparently Mexico is playing I had no clue. Been watching the Sopranos for the last hour :p

[yourmumsface17]

He's come on against England in the friendly. Done nothing so far though lol

[Tutankhamun]

He's come on against England in the friendly. Done nothing so far though lol

Yeah right, England is playing at Wembley right?

[yourmumsface17]

Yeh Wembley

[santinomarella]

Carrick had quite a poor game, which is a shame. :(

[Tutankhamun]

Carrick had quite a poor game, which is a shame. :(

He's been crap for us as well, don't fancy him coming back tbh.

[Suley]

Carrick had quite a poor game, which is a shame. :(
IMO Rooney hasn't been doing much today.

[yourmumsface17]

Rooneys had a good game, hit bar, had one off line, link up play has been pretty good!

[Suley]

Rooneys had a good game, hit bar, had one off line, link up play has been pretty good!
Well.. he should've scored that header, but England still scored.:)

[yourmumsface17]

He hasn't scored in a while actually, was hoping he'd get on the sheet tonight, but oh well.

[TommyFewty]

Rooney was OK last night. Few cracking bursts of speed to get away from his full back and tracked back a lot. Just seemed a bit scared to shoot last night, holding onto it a bit long at times too. Only a friendly anyway so no worries. GJ :cool:

[Tutankhamun]

So Ireland has asked City to sell him, should we bite? I'm tempted tbh.

[Metal Warrior]

So Ireland has asked City to sell him, should we bite? I'm tempted tbh.

Me too. He's a bit mental, but very talented. City wouldn't be too keen on dealing with us though, so I'm not holding my breath if another club comes knocking.

[Tutankhamun]

Me too. He's a bit mental, but very talented. City wouldn't be too keen on dealing with us though, so I'm not holding my breath if another club comes knocking.

I remember reading somewhere that he's a United fan, don't know if that's true. But if it is maybe he could persuade them to sell him to us? If he wants to play for us that is.

[Suley]

I remember reading somewhere that he's a United fan, don't know if that's true. But if it is maybe he could persuade them to sell him to us? If he wants to play for us that is.
He would be a great signing, hope he atleast leaves City.. if not United then possibly Birmingham City..? lool.. but I doubt he'll go United, the main reason being is that City wont sell anyone to United.

[Tutankhamun]

He would be a great signing, hope he atleast leaves City.. if not United then possibly Birmingham City..? lool.. but I doubt he'll go United, the main reason being is that City wont sell anyone to United.

I don't know, if we give the asking price and he wants to play for us, why would they refuse? ****** move if they do.

[Demiant]

I don't know, if we give the asking price and he wants to play for us, why would they refuse? ****** move if they do.
Because we're their biggest rivals? Even if we give the asking price, they wouldn't give a crap... it's not like they need the money. They'd sell him to any club but us. And quite frankly, I'd rather we go after other targets, especially if City ask around 15m.

[StaticAge]

Nani has got his goal against Arsenal awarded to him :D

[Tutankhamun]

Because we're their biggest rivals? Even if we give the asking price, they wouldn't give a crap... it's not like they need the money. They'd sell him to any club but us. And quite frankly, I'd rather we go after other targets, especially if City ask around 15m.

What other targets? Spurs wants Berbatov + Evans + cash for Modric apparently. (They can get all of that except Evans)

Gourcruff seems to be the only one we might be able to land, maybe Silva if we're lucky. I'd take Ireland to so we can get some depth.

[manutdfan]

What other targets? Spurs wants Berbatov + Evans + cash for Modric apparently. (They can get all of that except Evans)

Gourcruff seems to be the only one we might be able to land, maybe Silva if we're lucky. I'd take Ireland to so we can get some depth.

Yep that would be a good deal if they accepted Berbatov and cash for Modric. I think the lure of Manchester United could get us Modric, it's just at what price.

[Tutankhamun]

Yep that would be a good deal if they accepted Berbatov and cash for Modric. I think the lure of Manchester United could get us Modric, it's just at what price.

Yeah, if we won't let Berba go maybe they'd want Carrick? Carrick/+15m seems fair.

[mankind]

Ireland is not good enough, he cant even make city's team.

[Tutankhamun]

Ireland is not good enough, he cant even make city's team.

He's still young, has great potential. Low risk could be high reward.

[santinomarella]

11 years ago today! :cool:

[Demiant]

11 years ago today! :cool:
Definitely a night of emotion. I can still remember Tyldesley's words ringing in my ears: "Can Manchester United score? They ALWAYS score!!" right before Teddy's goal and then my favourite piece of commentary ever: "Beckham..... into Sheringham..... AND SOLSKJAER HAS WON IT! MANCHESTER UNITED HAVE REACHED THE PROMISED LAND!"

Tears were streaming down my face that night, 20LEgend. :cool:

[Tutankhamun]

I have that game on one of my external harddrives, if anyone wants it I can upload it to my dropbox and give you the link. Some pre game stuff and all of the celebrations is in it!

[Tutankhamun]

Manchester United Move For Yaya Toure

MANCHESTER United have made an offer for Yaya Toure.

According to reports in Spain, Manchester United have made a £17m offer for Barcelona star Yaya Toure.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is keen strengthen his squad ahead of next season.

However, any deal would depend on United matching Barcelona's £20m asking price.
The Spanish giants have already turned down offers from Arsenal and Chelsea.

Source (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/137146/Manchester-United-move-for-Yaya-Toure/)

What do you guys think?

[TommyFewty]

Really not what you need at all in mid. Hes a brilliant player and with freedom offers so much more than just a stopper but you need someone who can thread a pass, link up play and just keep things ticking like your Sneijders/Silvas. He would be a good signing for you of course, IMO better than anything you have in mid right now (if Fletch keeps it up then maybe and if Carrick resembles a footy player he might be) and can go from defence to attack with the ball very quickly. He will most likely stay though cos he likes Barca, just his awful agent. Dont have a clue who you will get now, would be suprised to see you spend 20m+ without selling someone.

[Tutankhamun]

I hope we can somehow get Modric but I have my doubts. If we don't do something about our midfield I don't think we'll finish top 2 next year.

[yourmumsface17]

I'm pretty sure were not getting Modric :( Would have been a good signing. Yaya Toure? I wouldn't pay alot for him personally, and he's not what we need, if we get him we know for a fact Hargo is done. :(


11 years ago today!

I remember watching it at my Nans lol, and my whole family were just going crazy, was an absolutely incredible moment, loved it!

YouTube- Luis Nani // It's My Time To Shine - 2010 // HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfWC1Zyon5Uhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfWC1Zyon5U)

[Tutankhamun]

Thought some of you guys might get a laugh or two out of this:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x219/iqfishmoose/fdb0663a.jpg

[Phaded]

I'd be very surprised if we signed anyone of real quality, considering we've signed Hernandez I don't see us in for another striker unless we sell Berbatov, which I can't see happening. Considering Fergie has said he's in for one more player I hope it's a creative midfielder because it's what we lack at the moment, this is why i've ticked off Gourcuff, Hamsik and Silva in the poll because 1 of these 3 would be an absolute perfect signing, but at the moment I only see it as a pipe dream because it's obvious to everybody (even though they try to pull the wool over our eyes) that we dont have the money to squander on transfer targets that the likes of City or Chelsea have.

[Tutankhamun]

I'd be very surprised if we signed anyone of real quality, considering we've signed Hernandez I don't see us in for another striker unless we sell Berbatov, which I can't see happening. Considering Fergie has said he's in for one more player I hope it's a creative midfielder because it's what we lack at the moment, this is why i've ticked off Gourcuff, Hamsik and Silva in the poll because 1 of these 3 would be an absolute perfect signing, but at the moment I only see it as a pipe dream because it's obvious to everybody (even though they try to pull the wool over our eyes) that we dont have the money to squander on transfer targets that the likes of City or Chelsea have.

It's kind of sad really. We could absolutely use Silva but now City looks to be the one who buys him. We could use Modric but he's more or less impossible to get now. I'd say Gourcuff is the only one we might get but Arsenal is chasing him like mad. Hamsik has said he want's to say where he is.

Silva is clearly the player we should have targeted but we're to late to the party, we can no longer compete for top signings. We will just have to hope we can scout really well and start predicting where we're going to need players in 5-years time, which is nearly impossible. I can see us falling behind until the Glazers are thrown out of town.

[Phaded]

Well we did bid for Silva 2 seasons ago before Berbatov but it was turned down at the time so we obviously have interest there. Gourcuff we could get because Bordeaux's manager has left and so has Chamakh so there's no reason for him to stay, the only questions is are we interested? if we are we could definitely snap him up, but does Fergie find "value in the market" in gourcuff? time will tell I guess.

[lordAlucard]

United just need a quality player in midfield...

Modric!? oh please Carrick and Berabtov have been disappointing now another Spurs player is rumoured to Join United? oh come on...

[Metal Warrior]

United just need a quality player in midfield...

Modric!? oh please Carrick and Berabtov have been disappointing now another Spurs player is rumoured to Join United? oh come on...

Carrick was great for about 2 and a half seasons. People who'd class his entire United career as a failure have short memories. Anyway, are you even serious with that comment about Spurs players? Sounds more than a bit ridiculous. I mean if it weren't for Teddy ...

[Tutankhamun]

Fergie has £95m to spend

DAVID GILL has told Manchester United's protesting fans: Stop moaning, we've got £95million to spend.

Many of the Old Trafford faithful have become disillusioned with the debt-laden ownership of the unpopular Glazer family.

And the American family put another nail in the coffin of the takeover bid by the Red Knights consortium last night by insisting there are no plans to sell up.

But chief executive Gill insisted there is nothing to be gloomy about and claims boss Alex Ferguson will have as much of that warchest as he wants for new signings this summer.

Fergie has hinted there may only be one big-name signing with Chris Smalling and Javier Hernandez already signed on for around £18m.

But with Karim Benzema and David Silva also believed to be on their radar, Gill says the extra money will be made available.

Gill said: "People say Alex is saying money is there because he has to. Anyone who knows Alex Ferguson knows he wouldn't say that if he didn't mean what he said.

"The money is definitely there. The financial results will show the figures are about £95m cash.

"We are not in a situation whereby Alex is restricted in what he wants to do with the club.

"We can invest in the players, the training ground and the stadium."

Fan protests became part and parcel of United home games last season with the Green and Gold campaign particularly prominent.

Yet Gill insisted: "The fans protesting are not going to change their opinion even if we win three Champions League titles in a row.

"We couldn't have been much more successful in the last three years.

"But they are simply never going to be happy."

United's hopes of landing Karim Benzema, however, are set to be dashed by Real Madrid for a second successive year.

Ferguson was keen to sign the French forward 12 months ago before he moved to the Bernabeu for around £30million.

And Real's sporting director Jorge Valdano has now said Benzema will be like 'a new signing' next season.

The former Lyon man hardly featured last term, sparking stories he could be on the move again.

But Valdano said: "We do not need more forwards - we scored 102 goals this season and Benzema didn't play much. Next season Karim is like a new signing."

Source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2991964/Fergie-has-95m-to-spend.html")

If it's true that's great news!

[manutdfan]

Thats awesome news if true, could get us Benza and Modric.

[Cyn]

I think thats total rubbish, you're skint and Fergie has been preparing you for little in the way of signings for months, just like he did last summer.

We've had the exact same thing for 5 years. The Chairman or whoever comes out and says "yes yes we have bucket loads of money. I use 50's to light my cigars" then you get the manager going along with that but insisting there's no one they want to buy, or in Fergies case, "the market is too narrow"

[ash91]

I won't believe we have £95m to spend until we have spent £95m.

[three3-times]

We have money, but i bet we only spend like a quid of it.

Joe cole to is looking more and more likely.

[Demiant]

Carrick was great for about 2 and a half seasons. People who'd class his entire United career as a failure have short memories. Anyway, are you even serious with that comment about Spurs players? Sounds more than a bit ridiculous. I mean if it weren't for Teddy ...
I agree, Carrick has been very disappointing for the pass 1 1/2 seasons but before that he was great for us. His slip coincides with Hargreaves' injury, so if Hargreaves comes back, Carrick might find a bit of form. Wishful thinking ftw! :D


I won't believe we have £95m to spend until we have spent £95m.
Exactly. We had 110m to spend last season apparently and we only spent a bit over 20. If we spend 95m this season, I'll admit we have the money. Until we do, I still think we're skint.

[Tutankhamun]

We're not going to spend £95m if we spend 30-40 it would be a massive chock. But if we do have those funds then we should try our best to get Modric.

[lordAlucard]

Carrick was great for about 2 and a half seasons. People who'd class his entire United career as a failure have short memories. Anyway, are you even serious with that comment about Spurs players? Sounds more than a bit ridiculous. I mean if it weren't for Teddy ...

Of course not hehe..

[bigdec]

Source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2991964/Fergie-has-95m-to-spend.html%22)

If it's true that's great news!
Its not true, are you stupid? They said the same thing the past two transfer windows, we are in debt we can't afford to spend big.

[Tutankhamun]

Its not true, are you stupid? They said the same thing the past two transfer windows, we are in debt we can't afford to spend big.

I like to think that I'm not stupid, but that's for others to decide I guess. All I stated is that it is good news if true. But thank you for your insult. It added a lot to your point.

As for the debt; Yes the club is in debt, but that doesn't mean they won't buy players. Is it unlikely? Probably, but it's not an impossibility. If Gill and SAF says they have money, maybe it's something to it?

[Demiant]

I like to think that I'm not stupid, but that's for others to decide I guess. All I stated is that it is good news if true. But thank you for your insult. It added a lot to your point.

As for the debt; Yes the club is in debt, but that doesn't mean they won't buy players. Is it unlikely? Probably, but it's not an impossibility. If Gill and SAF says they have money, maybe it's something to it?
Or maybe they don't want to anger the fans by saying we have no money so instead find a crap excuse like "there's no value in the market"?

I appreciate the optimism but I seriously doubt we have 95m to spend.

[Tutankhamun]

Or maybe they don't want to anger the fans by saying we have no money so instead find a crap excuse like "there's no value in the market"?

I appreciate the optimism but I seriously doubt we have 95m to spend.

Could be, no way to know yet. If we don't sign an offensive midfielder then that's probably our answer to your question.

But I don't appreciate being insulted for posting an article. Should I start choosing articles based on how likely they are? Not directed to you btw.

[squirrelbo1]

Silva is clearly the player we should have targeted but we're to late to the party, we can no longer compete for top signings. We will just have to hope we can scout really well and start predicting where we're going to need players in 5-years time, which is nearly impossible. I can see us falling behind until the Glazers are thrown out of town.

lolwut ? you are man utd of course you can compete for top signings. yes you are in debt, but you guys have always run with massive overheads and big debts, becuase you have excellent likelyhood to repay it, you pretty much win a major trophy ever other year so people are fine having money owed to them by you. also you get a ****ing alrge chunbk of tv money so you ahve an ever increasing steady stream of income.


also your man utd, the players want to go to you. I just think you have made some wrong signings recently, and i think you should have picked up the like of gourcuff earlier.

[Tutankhamun]

lolwut ? you are man utd of course you can compete for top signings. yes you are in debt, but you guys have always run with massive overheads and big debts, becuase you have excellent likelyhood to repay it, you pretty much win a major trophy ever other year so people are fine having money owed to them by you. also you get a ****ing alrge chunbk of tv money so you ahve an ever increasing steady stream of income.


also your man utd, the players want to go to you. I just think you have made some wrong signings recently, and i think you should have picked up the like of gourcuff earlier.

No bank in the world would lend United money right now, trust me on that. And sure players wants to play for us but we still need to pay the clubs. It's painfully obvious SAF wants Modric but there doesn't seem to be enough funds to get him. Before the Glazers we would just have done a really great bid that would have forced Spurs to sell, I don't see that right now.

Some analyst even wrote in the Guardian saying that we would need to sell players soon to not go bankrupt if this continues, now analysts are always wrong but if he's thinking it the Glazers are thinking it.

[Metal Warrior]

No bank in the world would lend United money right now, trust me on that. And sure players wants to play for us but we still need to pay the clubs. It's painfully obvious SAF wants Modric but there doesn't seem to be enough funds to get him. Before the Glazers we would just have done a really great bid that would have forced Spurs to sell, I don't see that right now.

Some analyst even wrote in the Guardian saying that we would need to sell players soon to not go bankrupt if this continues, now analysts are always wrong but if he's thinking it the Glazers are thinking it.

I don't trust you on that, if by that you mean United isn't able to attract investors. You do remember we raised over £500m trough bonds less than half a year ago?

[Tutankhamun]

I don't trust you on that, if by that you mean United isn't able to attract investors. You do remember we raised over £500m trough bonds less than half a year ago?

In the Glazers name.

[mankind]

No modric guys he has signed a new contract with spurs :(

[Tutankhamun]

No modric guys he has signed a new contract with spurs :(

Just great, should get Silva and Gourcoff now.

[Suley]

Just great, should get Silva and Gourcoff now.
What? Get both.. you only need one of them.

[Tutankhamun]

What? Get both.. you only need one of them.

No I don't think so. Let's assume Carrick is sold (which seems likely) Hargo is made out of glass, Andersson is doing something not playing though. Who's going to give us some creativity? I'd say get both and Silva can cover a wing from time to time when Giggs has hung up his boots.

[Cyn]

Silva is a left winger and a second striker. He would do nothing to solve your lack of a CM playmaker.

[Tutankhamun]

Silva is a left winger and a second striker. He would do nothing to solve your lack of a CM playmaker.

Meh, he's a classical number 10 can play anywhere more or less.

[Cyn]

Maybe in Spain but not here. He is very weak and a bit of a girl

I'd love him at Arsenal though. Then we could put Arshavin behind RVP and actually have a real left footed winger for once

[Tutankhamun]

Maybe in Spain but not here. He is very weak and a bit of a girl

I'd love him at Arsenal though. Then we could put Arshavin behind RVP and actually have a real left footed winger for once

Unfortunately it seems Man City is about to sign him. I can't believe how inactive we are in the transfer market.

[mankind]

Off topic here but do any of you guys have modnation racers? if so please download my mods and rate them, I will return the favour.

Here is fred the red I made :)

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2200/modnationracersq.jpg

[santinomarella]

No I don't think so. Let's assume Carrick is sold (which seems likely) Hargo is made out of glass, Andersson is doing something not playing though. Who's going to give us some creativity? I'd say get both and Silva can cover a wing from time to time when Giggs has hung up his boots.

We all know we need a creative midfielder, and it seems like we don't have much money to spend, so why would we want to get rid of other midfielder's?

Lets assume that Carrick wakes up and realises he is a football player and plays like he once did, lets assume Hargreaves come back and plays as well as we all rate him, and lets assume that when Anderson returns from injury he starts to show the quality we all believe he is capable of, then without spending a penny we have 3 midfielder's all offering more than what they did last season, which would be fantastic.

I still agree we need a creative midfielder but I also believe that the 3 players mentioned above are very capable of having a great season for us. We also have to remember that there are more midfield players out there than the few that have been mentioned in here.

I read a good David Gill interview the other day where he basically mentioned how United make stars and not sign them. So if there is a signing or two other the summer, then chances are it could be a player we know little about who Sir Alex will help grow into a star player at United.

[StaticAge]

Chicharito has scored 2 goals so far in Mexico's game vs Gambia.

EDIT: No more for him today, he's been subbed off.

[Tutankhamun]

We all know we need a creative midfielder, and it seems like we don't have much money to spend, so why would we want to get rid of other midfielder's?

Lets assume that Carrick wakes up and realises he is a football player and plays like he once did, lets assume Hargreaves come back and plays as well as we all rate him, and lets assume that when Anderson returns from injury he starts to show the quality we all believe he is capable of, then without spending a penny we have 3 midfielder's all offering more than what they did last season, which would be fantastic.

I still agree we need a creative midfielder but I also believe that the 3 players mentioned above are very capable of having a great season for us. We also have to remember that there are more midfield players out there than the few that have been mentioned in here.

I read a good David Gill interview the other day where he basically mentioned how United make stars and not sign them. So if there is a signing or two other the summer, then chances are it could be a player we know little about who Sir Alex will help grow into a star player at United.

Well, I'm happy to wait for Andersson I think he has what's needed to make it. But Carrick he completly lost his game this season at his age I don't expect that to happen. He didn't seem motivated, not sure he'll ever be a top player again.

Hargreaves is a great player when he's fit but even then he's not the guy you expect pull you trough when the game is on the line. He's a defensive midfeilder.

As for making stars, sure we do that a lot, but making stars takes time and right now we need someone who can produce and still has potential to be better. I want someone who can play next season to be frank. To me, when Modric is off the table, Silva is that guy.

[yourmumsface17]

Well, I'm happy to wait for Andersson I think he has what's needed to make it. But Carrick he completly lost his game this season at his age I don't expect that to happen. He didn't seem motivated, not sure he'll ever be a top player again.

Hargreaves is a great player when he's fit but even then he's not the guy you expect pull you trough when the game is on the line. He's a defensive midfeilder.

As for making stars, sure we do that a lot, but making stars takes time and right now we need someone who can produce and still has potential to be better. I want someone who can play next season to be frank. To me, when Modric is off the table, Silva is that guy.
But from what I understand Silva isn't a CM?

[Metal Warrior]

In the Glazers name.

I don't get your point here?

[Tutankhamun]

But from what I understand Silva isn't a CM?

He's a little of everything, he has mostly been used as a winger in Valencia but he is capable of playing CM if he has someone behind him, like a 4-4-2 diamond where Scholes or Fletcher covers behind and he's the playmaker from what I've heard. Or if we're playing a 4-5-1 he could play beside one of the wingers. I think he would manage a ordinary CM position to.


I don't get your point here?

From what I understood from the bond it was loaned in Glazers name, so the bank didn't actually borrowed money to United but to the Glazers but United is the one paying the interest. I could be wrong here though.

[Metal Warrior]

From what I understood from the bond it was loaned in Glazers name, so the bank didn't actually borrowed money to United but to the Glazers but United is the one paying the interest. I could be wrong here though.

It wasn't the bank, more all sorts of private investors. There was a huge document about investing in Man United accomponying the bonds, so they knew full well who and what they were investing in.

[R3D D3V!L]

Hernandez has been scoring for fun for Mexico. Could he be the real deal? I know Berbatov has a good record for Bulgaria so I wouldn't hype him up too much but he's young.

[Metal Warrior]

Hernandez has been scoring for fun for Mexico. Could he be the real deal? I know Berbatov has a good record for Bulgaria so I wouldn't hype him up too much but he's young.

Wait and see. it's best not to have any expectations at all and also don't write the lad off if he has a bad start. He's still young and very unproven.

[Camis@do]

Thats awesome news if true, could get us Benza and Modric.

not going to happen.

Modric just signed a new deal with spurs + benzema isnt worth what real would sell him for.

Fergie will buy someone when he finds a player who is value for money.

Not someone like benzema for 60mil when hes just a overpriced fat waste of space.

[R3D D3V!L]

He signed Berbatov who is a waste of space.

[Metal Warrior]

He signed Berbatov who is a waste of space.

Hindsight ... makes every armchair manager think he knows better than the greatest manager of all time. :roll:

Berbatov had a good season for Spurs before we bought him, unlike Benzema who's recently also showed signs of being unfit. Berbatov also made it clear what team he wanted to play for, wich unlike Benzema wasn't Real Madrid. And even at +£30m, he was priced severely less than what Benzema would cost now, if the latter would even want to leave Madrid.

Not that I am against a transfer of Benzema if he's available, but at the time there definately wasn't any indication that Berbatov would be a bad bit of business. He always looked quality for Spurs and his ability was obvious.

[yourmumsface17]

Hindsight ... makes every armchair manager think he knows better than the greatest manager of all time. :roll:

Berbatov had a good season for Spurs before we bought him, unlike Benzema who's recently also showed signs of being unfit. Berbatov also made it clear what team he wanted to play for, wich unlike Benzema wasn't Real Madrid. And even at +£30m, he was priced severely less than what Benzema would cost now, if the latter would even want to leave Madrid.

Not that I am against a transfer of Benzema if he's available, but at the time there definately wasn't any indication that Berbatov would be a bad bit of business. He always looked quality for Spurs and his ability was obvious.
Yeh the amount of United fans that wanted to sign Berba was unreal, I bet their the very same ones that turned on him too.

[Demiant]

Hindsight ... makes every armchair manager think he knows better than the greatest manager of all time. :roll:

Berbatov had a good season for Spurs before we bought him, unlike Benzema who's recently also showed signs of being unfit. Berbatov also made it clear what team he wanted to play for, wich unlike Benzema wasn't Real Madrid. And even at +£30m, he was priced severely less than what Benzema would cost now, if the latter would even want to leave Madrid.

Not that I am against a transfer of Benzema if he's available, but at the time there definately wasn't any indication that Berbatov would be a bad bit of business. He always looked quality for Spurs and his ability was obvious.
He & Robbie Keane had an epic link-up... but I was always against paying 30m for a 27yr old. Also, he never got more than 15 goals in the Prem in one season. I knew he was a good player, but it was also easy to spot that he wasn't a "score-for-fun" kind of guy. He's not what we needed and I'm not just saying that because of hindsight, I thought it at the time.


Yeh the amount of United fans that wanted to sign Berba was unreal, I bet their the very same ones that turned on him too.
I agree, and now they're the same people that wanted to sign David Villa for 40m before he went to Barca. I think paying anything over 30m for anyone 27 or older is silly.

[Metal Warrior]

He & Robbie Keane had an epic link-up... but I was always against paying 30m for a 27yr old. Also, he never got more than 15 goals in the Prem in one season. I knew he was a good player, but it was also easy to spot that he wasn't a "score-for-fun" kind of guy. He's not what we needed and I'm not just saying that because of hindsight, I thought it at the time.

15 goals in PL and 20+ overall, that didn't seem too bad, especially if you figure in 10+ assists. If he had managed the same numbers at United, his transfer would've been considered pretty successful I reckon. He just failed unfortunately, and you couldn't really see that coming, even if you had doubts about how much he suited our squad and style of play.

[Tutankhamun]

Berbatov had a high price tag but at that time I thought it would be worth it, both Rooney and Tevez were injured if I remember correctly and City was also after Berba at that time, so that probably drove up the pice.

[desolationw]

I agree, and now they're the same people that wanted to sign David Villa for 40m before he went to Barca. I think paying anything over 30m for anyone 27 or older is silly.

So you are saying if in 2 years Real Madrid offer us Ronaldo for £31 million you would think it is silly? :snicker

[Tutankhamun]

Manchester United Consider Move for £12m Barcelona Star: Sir Alex Ferguson Interested in Teenage Sensation Bojan

Sir Alex Ferguson is reportedly interested in signing Barcelona starlet this summer as he looks to strengthen his attacking options. The Manchester United boss is apparently ready to make an offer for the £12m rated teenager and hopes that he can tempt the Catalan giants into selling a player who is something of a cult hero at the Nou Camp.
The 19 year old attacker has found first team opportunities limited over the past season and may feel that the time is right to make a move from the La Liga title holders now that Pepe Guardiola has signed up David Villa last week.
Manchester United are keen to bring in attacking alternatives to help share Wayne Rooney’s burden. Michael Owen’s constant injury woes and Dimitar Berbatov’s poor form have left Ferguson relying too much on his England international goal machine.
Bojan only managed 16 starts last season but managed to impressively net 12 goals in all competitions.

Source (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/30/manchester-united-consider-move-for-12m-barcelona-star-sir-alex-ferguson-interested-in-teenager-sensation-bojan/)

Obviously not going to happen but good on SAF for trying. Would fit in well at United.

[Metal Warrior]

Source (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/30/manchester-united-consider-move-for-12m-barcelona-star-sir-alex-ferguson-interested-in-teenager-sensation-bojan/)

Obviously not going to happen but good on SAF for trying. Would fit in well at United.

That's a terrible source you're quoting. I don't think Fergie would even contemplate that. Bojan loves Barça and Barça love Bojan. He knows he has a future at Barça and won't throw that away, nor would Guariola be foolish enough to let him leave. It's a nothing story, based on speculation by a terribly unreliable source.

[Tutankhamun]

That's a terrible source you're quoting. I don't think Fergie would even contemplate that. Bojan loves Barça and Barça love Bojan. He knows he has a future at Barça and won't throw that away, nor would Guariola be foolish enough to let him leave. It's a nothing story, based on speculation by a terribly unreliable source.

The original source is http://www.sport.es/ I just took something in a language people understand :D My spanish stops at Holla.

Here is there's story via Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sport.es%2F&sl=es&tl=en

[TommyFewty]

Bojan :cool: Such a great youngster, still believe he has the potential to be a tremendous finisher. His vision is wonderful and times his runs to perfection even at such a young age. He wont move from Barcas bench to Man Utds bench. Every Barca fan loves the little scamp and Pep will give him chances next year. Would just be 3rd/4th choice for you which is a useless move. Just wrap Rooneys legs in bubble wrap after every game.

[Tutankhamun]

Bojan :cool: Such a great youngster, still believe he has the potential to be a tremendous finisher. His vision is wonderful and times his runs to perfection even at such a young age. He wont move from Barcas bench to Man Utds bench. Every Barca fan loves the little scamp and Pep will give him chances next year. Would just be 3rd/4th choice for you which is a useless move. Just wrap Rooneys legs in bubble wrap after every game.

He would defiantly be at least 3rd, maybe second depending if Berbatov can find his game or not.

[Suley]

Apparently you guys are interested in a brazillian player.. Ganso. He would be a terrific signing, he's a superb player and the exact player you guys need.

[mankind]

Apparently you guys are interested in a brazillian player.. Ganso. He would be a terrific signing, he's a superb player and the exact player you guys need.


YouTube- PAULO HENRIQUE GANSO MEIA HIGHLIGHTS PARTE I

[Tutankhamun]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article405899.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/98658323.jpg

Man United plan summer move for Everton star

Manchester United are ready to make an audacious swoop for Mikel Arteta.

The classy Everton midfielder is currently involved in contract talks with his Merseyside club, but has so far yet to make any progress in negotiations.

And now Old Trafford boss Sir Alex Ferguson is ready to test the water with an inquiry to see if his friend David Moyes would be willing to sell.

Arteta still has two years left on his current Goodison deal, but progress in negotiations has been slow, and the Spaniard is aware of other interest from the likes of United, Arsenal and Manchester City.

He is loyal to Everton and has a good relationship with boss Moyes, but at 28 he would like the chance to play in the Champions League and push his international claims.

United boss Fergie holds too much respect for his Everton counterpart Moyes and would never try to steal the player away.

But if Everton do decide that they can’t persuade the midfielder to commit his long-term future then they would be interested, especially if the price was right at about £10million.

Arsenal already see Arteta as a possible replacement should Cesc Fabregas leave, and City have made no admiration for the midfielder.

Everton don’t want to sell and still believe the Spaniard will sign a new deal, and officials at Goodison would be massively reluctant to do any business with City after the bad taste left by Joleon Lescott’s move to Eastlands last summer.

Source (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-transfer-news-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-planning-summer-move-for-Everton-star-Mikel-Arteta-article443891.html)

Would be a good signing.

[Cyn]

He's good but he's a crock! Him and Hargreaves can pitch up together haha

[Tutankhamun]

He's good but he's a crock! Him and Hargreaves can pitch up together haha

What has he stolen?

[Cyn]

lol. A crock! Injury prone

[Tutankhamun]

lol. A crock! Injury prone

Oh, now I feel stupid. That's not good, we need someone who can play most games.

[Cyn]

No chance of that. He had the same long term injury as Rosicky and Hargreaves and will have to manage it for the rest of his career, no doubt picking up lots of niggles along the way

[Tutankhamun]

Then there's probably not that much to this rumor, a little old at 28 to imho. Has to be better options available.

[Metal Warrior]

Nani scored a neat goal against Cameroon in a friendly. He scored another great chip against Spurs in one of the last weeks of the season, and now he does it again. I'm really excited to see just how good he can become. I think he'll star at the WC and never look back next season for us. A bit like Ronaldo after WC 2006.

YouTube- Portugal 3-1 Cameroon [HQ] (Goal Nani) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO1Z_zaeqX8)

[yourmomsboat]

Yeah were getting linked with loads of players as per usual. Arteta is too prone to injury now.

The Brazilian kid looks quality.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah were getting linked with loads of players as per usual. Arteta is too prone to injury now.

The Brazilian kid looks quality.
manutdfan...

nice pic, maybe ill set mine as a pic of Rooney with a fag

[Tutankhamun]

Manchester United set transfer sights on Edin Dzeko
Wolfsburg striker Edin Dzeko is the latest transfer target of Manchester United, according to reports.

Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping to bring the Bosnian international to Old Trafford in order to boost his side's firepower, according to Caughtoffside.com.

And while the Bundesliga outfit is asking for what the site describes as a "fairly inflated" fee of £34 million, Sir Alex is thought to be considering an offer of around £25 million.
Local rivals Manchester City are also in the hunt for 24-year-old Dzeko, who has scored a total of 65 goals in the last two years.
And while City would be more likely to win a straight bidding war, with United's debt considered to be an obstacle, the player himself is said to be more interested in the latter club - particularly as he has been linked to Old Trafford in the past.

With Sir Alex promised sufficient funds to boost his squad this summer, Dzeko may well be a high priority as weaknesses in United's strikeforce were exposed last season - Dimitar Berbatov failing to live up to expectations and a record transfer fee after injuries limited Wayne Rooney and Michael Owen's playing time.
In addition to the English clubs, AC Milan are showing interest in the Wollfsburg frontman.

Source (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/829444-manchester-united-set-transfer-sights-on-edin-dzeko)

Since Real Madrid want to keep Benezema, Dzeko is probably the best striker available.


Manchester United Could Buy Real Madrid's Rafael Van Der Vaart For €20 Million

As reported by AS, English giants Manchester United are contemplating a €20 million offer for Real Madrid's Rafael van der Vaart, as Red Devils manager Sir Alex Ferguson is rumoured to be keen on the Dutchman.

Sir Alex has already announced that there will be no major moves in this summer's transfer market, but the English press speculates that this is just a ploy to quell the press rumours and that the club are seeking an attacking midfielder in Van der Vaart's mould.

However, it is yet uncertain as to whether Van der Vaart is in Madrid coach Jose Mourinho's plans for next season. Last year, Los Blancos offloaded Dutch attackers Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder only to watch both players become wildly successful with their new clubs and Sneijder became a fixture in Mourinho's Inter squad.

Van der Vaart is a player very much like Sneijder and it remains to be seen if the Special One will employ him in similar fashion. The Dutchman was nearly a transfer casualty early last season, but an acceptable offer did not come in and Los Blancos kept him. Eventually, he ended up replacing an injured Kaka in the starting line-up and put in a number of impressive performances.

Source (http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/222/transfer-zone/2010/06/04/1959001/manchester-united-could-buy-real-madrids-rafael-van-der)

[yourmumsface17]

Nice articles Tut.

Firstly I would like to know when/ what are these english home grown rule thingies that are coming into force (thank you for making English players premium even higher).

With Neville, Scholes to retire probably in 1-2 years we surely need 2 english players to replace them? Not to mention Rio.

It confuses me, can someone explain the rule, does it have to be english home grown or can it just be homegrown regardless of nation?

I'm unsure on Djeko, signing people like him scares me hehe, but a midfielder = def on the agenda.

[Tutankhamun]

What does that rule do? Do you have to have a certain number of English players?

[Demiant]

Nice articles Tut.

Firstly I would like to know when/ what are these english home grown rule thingies that are coming into force (thank you for making English players premium even higher).

With Neville, Scholes to retire probably in 1-2 years we surely need 2 english players to replace them? Not to mention Rio.

It confuses me, can someone explain the rule, does it have to be english home grown or can it just be homegrown regardless of nation?

I'm unsure on Djeko, signing people like him scares me hehe, but a midfielder = def on the agenda.
Dzeko would be a quality signing, he's definitely lethal in front of goal and is great aerially. I'd be more than happy to have him alongside Rooney.


What does that rule do? Do you have to have a certain number of English players?

Basically, next year clubs in the Prem have to submit a 25-man squad, and in those 25 you have to have a total of 4 players trained at club and 4 trained in England.

Evans/Rio/O'Shea/Brown/Carrick/Fletcher/Scholes/Giggs/Rooney/Owen/Gibson/Neville are the ones we have... I'm sure I'm forgetting some though.

[Tutankhamun]

So Macheda could count since we got him when he was like 17?

[Demiant]

So Macheda could count since we got him when he was like 17?
A player has to have trained at club/nation for 3 years to be considered trained at club/homegrown. Macheda wouldn't count this season but he would next season.

[Tutankhamun]

A player has to have trained at club/nation for 3 years to be considered trained at club/homegrown. Macheda wouldn't count this season but he would next season.

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

What do you guys think these new rules will mean for us? We usually have a lot of English players or buy young players so it shouldn't concern us to much or?

[Demiant]

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

What do you guys think these new rules will mean for us? We usually have a lot of English players or buy young players so it shouldn't concern us to much or?
Yeah don't worry, won't affect us much.

[Tutankhamun]

With Neville, Scholes to retire probably in 1-2 years we surely need 2 english players to replace them? Not to mention Rio.

I think Smalling is Rio's replacement, Evans and Smalling is our CB future. Rafeal will take Neville's spot permanently imo. I thought Modric would be Scholes replacement but that turned to crap.. We need to find someone that's for sure.

[manutdfan]

Yeah big shame about Modric, maybe we should go after Gourcuff now.

I'd agree with Dem, Dzeko would be a quality signing, he is lethal infront of goal and is physical and an ariel target.

[Tutankhamun]

Milan And Juventus Monitoring Manchester United’s Dimitar Berbatov

Despite recent declarations from manager Sir Alex Ferguson that Dimitar Berbatov will still be at Manchester United next season, it seems that the Bulgarian’s future is still far from set in stone.

According to reports in Eurosport, the English giants are looking for ways to reduce their wage bill ahead of next season, and the former Tottenham hitman could be forced out of Old Trafford.

It seems that both Milan and Juventus are closely monitoring Berbatov’s status as they scour the market for a top striker following disappointing seasons in the goals department.

The Bulgarian is currently valued at €22m and has also caused attracted attention from the Bundesliga, with Bayern Munich and Shalke 04 reportedly rating him highly.

Source (http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/222/transfer-zone/2010/06/06/1961774/milan-and-juventus-monitoring-manchester-uniteds-dimitar)

Don't think we'll sell him unless we can bring another striker in.

[Demiant]

Please let it be true... it'll be like an early Christmas prezzy. :D

[Tutankhamun]

Please let it be true... it'll be like an early Christmas prezzy. :D

Would you sell him without having a replacement ready? Like Dzecko or Benzema.

[santinomarella]

Any one watching Soccer Aid? It's at Old Trafford, the likes of Giggs, Figo and Zidane all playing :shock:

Ricky Hatton playing too. :snicker

[Tutankhamun]

Any one watching Soccer Aid? It's at Old Trafford, the likes of Giggs, Figo and Zidane all playing :shock:

Ricky Hatton playing too. :snicker

Wait that was football? I thought it was a show about things to do in a retirement home :)

[santinomarella]

Well Giggs is playing so it's obviously not. :p

[Tutankhamun]

Well Giggs is playing so it's obviously not. :p

How does that not add to my point? :snicker

Has Zidane headbutted someone yet?

[santinomarella]

How does that not add to my point? :snicker

Has Zidane headbutted someone yet?

Giggs isn't retired though :D

and no Zidane hasn't headbutted anyone yet :lol: He's up front with Mike Myers :lol:

[manutdfan]

Any one watching Soccer Aid? It's at Old Trafford, the likes of Giggs, Figo and Zidane all playing :shock:

Ricky Hatton playing too. :snicker

Calzaghe gambled and made a good run into the six yard box and scored. The sort of run/gamble you wouldn't see from Berbatov here.

[Tutankhamun]

Calzaghe gambled and made a good run into the six yard box and scored. The sort of run/gamble you wouldn't see from Berbatov here.

Oh ****, this will start this thing again :snicker

[santinomarella]

It just gets old and boring, I ignore it and move on, like this....

Sheringham scored a lovely header at the Stretford End :D