The Manchester United Thread

[John25]

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Tevez will be gutted if rooney goes to you're lot

[Surebrec]

He's not ready yet, still needs to add a bit of muscle hopefully he does that in the off-season. Mostly we need Rooney and United to announce they have reached a new deal, I would cry of happiness.


We should have just done what I said from day one, we should have given Rooney an empty paper and he could fill in the details. No fuss.


I can't chill he's my favorite player ever :/


I don't give a crap about the season I'm talking about Rooney.


I honestly think he has to much respect for the fans to go to City. It will be Spain or Italy if he leaves.


Like its going to happen....


**** the money, I'd never sell him to City rather have him play for the reserves for 18-months than go on a free to City if that's what he wants.


Tbh I don't take anything the British media face value anymore but where there's smoke there's fire so he might leave but I don't think he'll go to City. Why would he do that to the fans?


What a piece of ****, I've lost all respect for Rooney.


Here's the thing; Both the club and Rooney is at fault here. The club should have got this done a long time ago and Rooney should have more respect for the club. The club ****ed up badly and we're going to pay for it. I doubt Rooney will be as good anywhere else but whatever. He was my favorite player of all time now I have no respect for him. But the reality is that we can't keep our best players anymore and that means we are not a top club anymore.

Just my two cents.



Do you guys want him back? I'd give him to you to stop him going to City.


Why should this piece of **** be allowed to train with the big club, send the ****tard to the reserves.


We should suspend him, I loved the guy but you DON'T treat he club like this. I say this I rather not win anything if it means we need to have players that don't respect Manchester United as a club. I say this, if anyone feels like Rooney be my guest to **** off in January to them as well.



You can do things professionally as a club and that hasn't been done but Rooney has the biggest blame.


Complete ***.

I say go for local guys who respects the tradition and what it means to be a Devil.


Why do he refuse to meet with SAF, who does that to their boss? Rooney has been a lie from the get go what a waste of time. No more scousers in United they can all **** off.


You simply do not treat your employee like this dc I don't care who you are, he's dead to me.


Do you blame me for not liking what he has done? Opinions change you know.

yeah they do, but not normally so quickly.

my opinion didn't change of anelka when he signed for bolton, nor did it change when he then jumped ship for chelsea. I thought he was an arrogant egotistical **** stain before he joined bolton, and I thought he was an equally arrogant egotistical **** stain whilst playing for us. my opinion of him now he is playing at stamford bridge is no different.

I don't form my opinions of players based on whether or not they happen to be playing for my team. if they are playing for bolton, my opinion of them would be the same as if they were playing for wigan or blackburn, and as long as they are getting the job done, I don't mind putting up with them.

I've seen people on the 606 forums saying rooney won't leave because he's "red through and through".

I agree, he is red through and through, just like he was blue through and through before he joined united, and he will be whatever colour through and through when he signs elsewhere, wherever that may be.

[Tutankhamun]

FERNANDO TORRES TO REPLACE WAYNE ROONEY?

MANCHESTER UNITED are lining up striker Fernando Torres as Wayne Rooney’s replacement.


And Old Trafford chiefs will justify a £50m swoop for Torres by making the World Cup winner the club’s new poster boy.

Sir Alex Ferguson is a long-term admirer of the Spain international but lost out to Rafa Benitez in the race to sign Torres from Atletico Madrid in 2007.

But Fergie will be forced into finding a new world-class forward after Rooney made it clear that he wants to leave.

And Torres will be top of United’s shopping list should Rooney leave Old Trafford in the coming months – though Spanish giants Barcelona will fi ght them all the way for his signature.

Despite claims from the United boardroom that there is money to spend, the club’s worrying debt means Fergie
would struggle to justify blowing £50m on one player.

But United’s pursuit of Torres will be boosted by the £75m Rooney’s salewould bring to the club, while the club’s
money men know the Spaniard’s capture would be a commercial coup.

The striker’s standing as one of the top strikers in the world and his clean- cut image makes Torres the perfect fi gurehead for the club’s worldwide commercial operations.

And United reckon a swoop for Torres would make long-term fi nancial sense, with the money made from capitalising on his global appeal surpass- ing the initial transfer fee.

Unlike David Beckham and Cristiano Ronaldo, United know Rooney’s rugged exterior and headlines over his personal life do not make the striker an ideal marketing fi gure.

Rivals Manchester City are also keen on Torres – but a world-record move for Rooney could leave United striker.

Torres has become disillusioned with the progress made under new manager Roy Hodgson.

But whether United can persuade Torres to quit Anfi eld for Old Trafford remains to be seen, given the striker’s fondness of the Merseyside club. A source close to Torres said: “On the face of it spending all that money on one player is something United would fi nd hard to give the green light to.

“But they know Torres would sell shirts all over the world. It’s no secret that Ferguson wants Torres at United.”

Meanwhile, Barcelona last night upped their interest in a move for Torres.

They want to take advantage of the diffi cult time he is having at Liverpool. Barca have always wanted him, since
he was at Atletico Madrid but lost out to Rafael Benitez and Liverpool. Now they they want to team him up with David Villa, his strike partner in the Spanish national team.

New president Sandro Rossell is planning a meeting with Torres’ representatives Bahia International.

Torres would be welcomed into the Nou Camp dressing room, and is clearly out-of-sorts at Liverpool at the moment.

Source (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/158949/Fernando-Torres-to-replace-Wayne-Rooney-/)

Do it.


yeah they do, but not normally so quickly.

my opinion didn't change of anelka when he signed for bolton, nor did it change when he then jumped ship for chelsea. I thought he was an arrogant egotistical **** stain before he joined bolton, and I thought he was an equally arrogant egotistical **** stain whilst playing for us. my opinion of him now he is playing at stamford bridge is no different.

I don't form my opinions of players based on whether or not they happen to be playing for my team. if they are playing for bolton, my opinion of them would be the same as if they were playing for wigan or blackburn, and as long as they are getting the job done, I don't mind putting up with them.

I've seen people on the 606 forums saying rooney won't leave because he's "red through and through".

I agree, he is red through and through, just like he was blue through and through before he joined united, and he will be whatever colour through and through when he signs elsewhere, wherever that may be.

My opinions change when I feel someone have disrespected something, or someone, I like Rooney did that and I have changed my opinion of him. He is no the man I once thought. Once a scouse always a scouse I suppose.

[dc89]

Why would Tevez be gutted? He'd have a new strike partner. Rooney comes deep to collect the ball. Tevez HAS to at the moment at City but he's not best at it. It could be the perfect strike partnership with Silva & Johnson out wide.

I'm salivating at the prospects.

Quote of the day courtesy or Red Cafe:


If he goes to City I want some sort of tapping up probe launching. It's exctly the kind of shady small time ****e that they would pull.

[yourmumsface17]

Wasnt directed at just you pal, relax. Sorry!!!

He'll never play in a United shirt again.

Fergie isn't stupid. Any one who thinks Rooney won;t be booed at OT is delusional. Can you imagine how that will affect the team? It would be disastrous.

Take him out of the picture all together.

Benzema coming to OT has suddenly become very possible. Real cant stand him and dont use him and dont even mention him!

2nd???!!! you kidding me!!! the league is between chelski and citeh....upfront we aint too bad, but our mid isnt good enough!!

i belive in chico, but roo was much more than goals, he was the heartbeat the guy who gave it all, created stuff and had a bit of magic about him (i just sold him on football manager and fifa!!)


Chicho, Macheda, Wellbeck (shows loads of glimpses of quality, just need consistency) Cleverly, Pogba, that Morrison guy? Ekrim... I'm probably missing a few people.

Maybe one of these could become a top player.

We will finish 2nd, I am convinced, that's ok for now. We could go a few baron years without a league title, were gonna rebuild and transistion, I'm sure United won't ever drop out the top 4.

We will be ok :) I am sure

VDS

Rafael
Rio
Vidic
Evra

Nani
Scholes
Fletcher
Giggs

Chicho
Berba

looks the likely 11 for the rest of the season.. Not an awful side by any means.. Hopefully Hargo, Valencia come back strong at some point.

Good luck Rooney, have a good career wherever you go, shame he has to go on a sour note.

[Surebrec]

Ignore Surebrec he just plainly hate me, he follow me wherever I go and try to make me look bad. Just ignore it, I'll deal with it.

I don't hate you, I don't even know you. I just find your fanboyish behaviour bizarre and somewhat humourous.

you are not that important to me to warrant me following you.

the only threads I have posted in that you actively comment in are the F1 thread and now this.

if that constitues me "following" you to make you look bad, I'll try to keep my distance. I'll try to avoid accidentally posting in any other threads you frequent, or I might end up with an online stalking order against me eh?

I'm joking of course, I'll carry on posting where, when and how I see fit :)

[Tutankhamun]

I don't hate you, I don't even know you. I just find your fanboyish behaviour bizarre and somewhat humourous.

you are not that important to me to warrant me following you.

the only threads I have posted in that you actively comment in are the F1 thread and now this.

if that constitues me "following" you to make you look bad, I'll try to keep my distance. I'll try to avoid accidentally posting in any other threads you frequent, or I might end up with an online stalking order against me eh?

I'm joking of course, I'll carry on posting where, when and how I see fit :)

You do that, you big troll there.

[John25]

Why would Tevez be gutted? He'd have a new strike partner. Rooney comes deep to collect the ball. Tevez HAS to at the moment at City but he's not best at it. It could be the perfect strike partnership with Silva & Johnson out wide.

I'm salivating at the prospects.

Quote of the day courtesy or Red Cafe:

Rooney and Tevez play in the same position dont they ? so someone will end up being Benched.

Anyways on Red cafe it says that Everton get 25% of what ever profit you guys make him over 27 mil

[Pez_555]

lol some really bitter posts in this thread.

keep them coming, i might go to sainsburys after work and get me some butter popcorn.

[yourmumsface17]

Lol ^^^

Can you blame us though, one minute he loves United the other he's off.

Only Man United can attract this much interest when one of their players want to leave, United still the most hated team :D (phew)

[santinomarella]

Lol ^^^

Can you blame us though, one minute he loves United the other he's off.

Only Man United can attract this much interest when one of their players want to leave, United still the most hated team :D (phew)

:D It's good to see!

[DangerousMali]

someone call the WHAAAMBULANCE :lol:

I would love it, if this turns United into a Liverpool Deperession, LOVE IT!

http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/japan.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/05/keeganrant_450x300.jpg

[Cyn]

lol some really bitter posts in this thread.

keep them coming, i might go to sainsburys after work and get me some butter popcorn.
It's brilliant innit

Man U are hated by all other fans for a reason chaps, gonna love lapping it up mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[yourmumsface17]

someone call the WHAAAMBULANCE :lol:

I would love it, if this turns United into a Liverpool Deperession, LOVE IT!

http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/japan.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/05/keeganrant_450x300.jpg

Don't worry when Cesc goes to Barca next summer we will call it :D

[DangerousMali]

Don't worry when Cesc goes to Barca next summer we will call it :D

6 more months then you lot will get :D

[Cyn]

Don't worry when Cesc goes to Barca next summer we will call it :D
We've got Jack the lad and Rambo to replace him, you've got Bebe :snicker

[yourmumsface17]

We've got Jack the lad and Rambo to replace him, you've got Bebe :snicker

Actually we have the best Mexican player in the premiership....

[Tutankhamun]

You other club fans should STFU, you'd be happy to accomplish half of what United has.

[santinomarella]

Lol at the Arsenal fans coming in hear to have a laugh. Should get back to doubting your manager and enjoying your goal keeping performances.

[yourmumsface17]

You other club fans should STFU, you'd be happy to accomplish half of what United has.
Which is exactly why they won't STFU lol :P I personally enjoy it, United always prove these people wrong, must make them so bitter

[DangerousMali]

Actually we have the best Mexican player in the premiership....

by default probably


You other club fans should STFU, you'd be happy to accomplish half of what United has.

History time? you guys are turning into liverpool fans faster than i expected :lol:

[Surebrec]

Actually we have the best Mexican player in the premiership....

when are the 33 greatest chileans in the world turning up to cheer him on?

[santinomarella]

by default probably

You've never heard of Vela then?

[yourmumsface17]

by default probably



History time? you guys are turning into liverpool fans faster than i expected :lol:

Errm Carlos Vela???

[DangerousMali]

You've never heard of Vela then?


Errm Carlos Vela???

like i said, by default

[dc89]

Actually we have the best Mexican player in the premiership....

Yeah, it's not hard.

But City have the best South American player in the PL's history.

[yourmumsface17]

Lol true :P

Laugh it up guys... United will be ok... just wait and see

[DangerousMali]

Yeah, it's not hard.

But City have the best South American player in the PL's history.

Gilberto? i thought it was Vieira you signed

:snicker

[Cyn]

You other club fans should STFU, you'd be happy to accomplish half of what United has.
You weren't half of what you are now before Sky chose you to be their poster boys and you all know it


Lol at the Arsenal fans coming in hear to have a laugh. Should get back to doubting your manager and enjoying your goal keeping performances.
:snicker Fabianski is my lord

[Tutankhamun]

City has a bunch of no passionate money grabbing whores. Arsenal like to play "beautiful" even if it means you won't win ****. Liverpool is going down the drainers. Chelsea is City 1.0.

[DangerousMali]

looks like Fergie time will be needed at the january transfer window :snicker

how are you guys going to replace him?

[yourmumsface17]

You weren't half of what you are now before Sky chose you to be their poster boys and you all know it


:snicker Fabianski is my lord

So so bitter...

[three3-times]

TEVEZ AND ROONEY CAN PLAY TOGETHER, anyone forget how they tore up the prem??????

anywho, he will go chelski, end of.

**** you rooney, you fat scouse ****

[Tutankhamun]

looks like Fergie time will be needed at the january transfer window :snicker

how are you guys going to replace him?

Torres according to the media.

[manutdfan]

It's hard to know what to believe though? Its all press talking, you cant trust them!!

[Tutankhamun]

It's hard to know what to believe though? Its all press talking, you cant trust them!!

The only facts we have is that Rooney has requested to be transferred. The rest is just speculation.

[yourmumsface17]

So what sort of players shall we sign with the Rooney money?

Yes Cyn sure, if you say so mate, good luck with that :D

[Demiant]

Torres according to the media.
I don't want Torres ffs. He's Liverpool through & through, I don't want him at United. Also, I doubt we'd spend 50m on a replacement and I also doubt Liverpool would sell to us.

[Demiant]

So what sort of players shall we sign with the Rooney money?

Yes Cyn sure, if you say so mate, good luck with that :D
You mean the money we'll never actually get because it'll go towards the Glazers' debt?

[santinomarella]

lol it's not bitter. That response is so typical of you lot, it's like they teach it in Man U fan school that all the Chinese go to

It's because your club and fans are a right rotten lot therefore deserve no sympathy and should be laughed at ;)

And we love it! :D

[manutdfan]

lol some really bitter posts in this thread.

keep them coming, i might go to sainsburys after work and get me some butter popcorn.

You shouldn't even be showing your face in this thread after you got done like a kipper by mumsface by his Torres remark.

[three3-times]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49571000/jpg/_49571137_rooneyinjury226.jpg

this is today

good.

****, hope it hurts and u broke it

[Xelis]

He was your hero last year guys. Now United fans are calling him a traitor and a disgrace?!

Brb. Going to try and find a post that you all rubbished off.

quoted for truth

it never ceases to amaze me just how quickly united fans turn on their players when they want to look at options elsewhere. I know it happens at most clubs, but nowhere near the extent that it happens at united.

fickle adj inconstant or changeable in affections, loyalties or intentions

*rose tinted fanboy goggles on*


He's not ready yet, still needs to add a bit of muscle hopefully he does that in the off-season. Mostly we need Rooney and United to announce they have reached a new deal, I would cry of happiness.


We should have just done what I said from day one, we should have given Rooney an empty paper and he could fill in the details. No fuss.


I can't chill he's my favorite player ever :/


I don't give a crap about the season I'm talking about Rooney.


I honestly think he has to much respect for the fans to go to City. It will be Spain or Italy if he leaves.


Like its going to happen....


**** the money, I'd never sell him to City rather have him play for the reserves for 18-months than go on a free to City if that's what he wants.


Tbh I don't take anything the British media face value anymore but where there's smoke there's fire so he might leave but I don't think he'll go to City. Why would he do that to the fans?

*rose tinted fanboy goggles off*


What a piece of ****, I've lost all respect for Rooney.


Here's the thing; Both the club and Rooney is at fault here. The club should have got this done a long time ago and Rooney should have more respect for the club. The club ****ed up badly and we're going to pay for it. I doubt Rooney will be as good anywhere else but whatever. He was my favorite player of all time now I have no respect for him. But the reality is that we can't keep our best players anymore and that means we are not a top club anymore.

Just my two cents.



Do you guys want him back? I'd give him to you to stop him going to City.


Why should this piece of **** be allowed to train with the big club, send the ****tard to the reserves.


We should suspend him, I loved the guy but you DON'T treat he club like this. I say this I rather not win anything if it means we need to have players that don't respect Manchester United as a club. I say this, if anyone feels like Rooney be my guest to **** off in January to them as well.



You can do things professionally as a club and that hasn't been done but Rooney has the biggest blame.


Complete ***.

I say go for local guys who respects the tradition and what it means to be a Devil.


Why do he refuse to meet with SAF, who does that to their boss? Rooney has been a lie from the get go what a waste of time. No more scousers in United they can all **** off.


You simply do not treat your employee like this dc I don't care who you are, he's dead to me.

funny thing is I have lots of friends who are die hard united supporters and I know that these sorts of comments are going to be repeated when I go out over the weekend. I even have a few older friends who remember the best era and how they totally disowned him after he "retired" only to play on with other clubs.

and now, the end is here and so I face the final curtain..........




I'm McLovin' it.
You could almost swap Rooney for Ferrari and Football for F1 and get the exact result from the F1 thread;
Ferrari not doing well = F1 is **** and has been for years
Ferrari doing well = FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!!


I guess United fans, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[yourmumsface17]

You shouldn't even be showing your face in this thread after you got done like a kipper by mumsface by his Torres remark.

Lol! Good times.

[Tutankhamun]

So what sort of players shall we sign with the Rooney money?

A world class midfielder that can play both defensive and offense, a winger/striker (Sanchez) and a new GK that is if SAF feels happy with the strikers in the squad. Personally I became quite convinced from one of your posts that we have the strikers it takes to replace Rooney. Let's be honest Rooney hasn't brought **** this season.


You could almost swap Rooney for Ferrari and Football for F1 and get the exact result from the F1 thread;
Ferrari not doing well = F1 is **** and has been for years
Ferrari doing well = FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!!


I guess United fans, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Wow, have I questioned the strength of the PL? Get a life dude, stop bothering me.

[yourmumsface17]

A world class midfielder that can play both defensive and offense, a winger/striker (Sanchez) and a new GK that is if SAF feels happy with the strikers in the squad. Personally I became quite convinced from one of your posts that we have the strikers it takes to replace Rooney. Let's be honest Rooney hasn't brought **** this season.

Yeh we don't need a striker, but a wing forward would be a good idea. I have no idea how good Sanchez is.

A midifielder that can make a defence splitting pass and a good winger (maybe a good holding midfielder as three times pointed out)

[John25]

Sweet it's just been on Talksport that we Get 20% of what ever profit you guys make over 26 million here's hoping that 50 mil + plus Benzema rumor is true

[Tutankhamun]

Sweet it's just been on Talksport that we Get 20% of what ever profit you guys make over 26 million here's hoping that 50 mil + plus Benzema rumor is true

Let's do this:

To United:

Rodwell

To Everton:

Rooney

Deal?

[manutdfan]

I'd rather 50 mill plus Las Diarra.

[Xelis]

Wow, have I questioned the strength of the PL? Get a life dude, stop bothering me.
Not talking about the PL. I just find it amusing how your attitude towards something drastically changes as soon as something good/bad happens.

[Tutankhamun]

Not talking about the PL. I just find it amusing how your attitude towards something drastically changes as soon as something good/bad happens.

It doesn't, I really only post in the F1 thread to troll if you hadn't noticed that I feel sorry for you. As for Rooney I've already explained why I lost my respect so do go back and read that (not that you will)

[santinomarella]

Not talking about the PL. I just find it amusing how your attitude towards something drastically changes as soon as something good/bad happens.

Like wanting Hodgson to replace Rafa and then wanting him gone 8 games in?

[yourmumsface17]

50 mil + Kaka ;) haha I wish!

[John25]

Let's do this:

To United:

Rodwell

To Everton:

Rooney

Deal?

nah sry mate would rather keep Rodders after rooney's attitude

[Tutankhamun]

50 mil + Kaka ;) haha I wish!

That'd be something eh? :p


nah sry mate would rather keep Rodders after rooney's attitude

Yeah won't blame you.

[manutdfan]

Don't know why Liverpool fans are posting in here, should be worried about there own club. Problems they have.

This time it's not spade in the ground in 60 days, it's spade in Woys back in 6 days!

[Xelis]

It doesn't, I really only post in the F1 thread to troll if you hadn't noticed that I feel sorry for you. As for Rooney I've already explained why I lost my respect so do go back and read that (not that you will)

I have read your posts. But you never know, Rooney may have been treated like crap at United for a while or him and Fergie may have fallen out or he is just unhappy at United and needs a change possibly he is happy but just wants a change regardless or a new challenge. You honestly don't know his state of mind to judge his decision.


Don't know why Liverpool fans are posting in here, should be worried about there own club. Problems they have.

Oh that's down the toilet till a new manager is appointed. May as well peak over the fence and have a nose at our neighbours troubles.

[John25]

50 mil + Kaka ;) haha I wish!

I know Rooneys out of form atm But Kaka is out of favour at Real so it would be worth an ask at least.

[yourmumsface17]

^^One thing we do know xelis, is one minute Rooney said he wanted to stay for life and is with the best club in the world and now he doesn't wanna sign for us.

STAB IN THE DARK...

I blame Colleen... :P

[Tutankhamun]

I have read your posts. But you never know, Rooney may have been treated like crap at United for a while or him and Fergie may have fallen out or he is just unhappy at United and needs a change possibly he is happy but just wants a change regardless or a new challenge. You honestly don't know his state of mind to judge his decision.

I know said that he only asked Rooney to respect the club and that he has not done thus I won't respect him. I see what you're trying to do and it wont work. Nice try though.

[manutdfan]

Yeah Face lets blame Collen, like Posh was blamed over the Beckham departure.

[yourmumsface17]

Exactly, if Colleen let Wayne sleep with hookers he would have been fine :P But no she wanted "monogamy" and for him to only want her :P

Totally unreasonable :D

[Tutankhamun]

Here's my plan:

Use the money to make Tottenham a deal they simple can't refuse for Modric. We usually don't bully clubs but the gloves are off let's do it.

Get Sanchez from Udinese shouldn't be too expensive.

Sign whatever GK we're looking at.

[yourmumsface17]

Here's my plan:

Use the money to make Tottenham a deal they simple can't refuse for Modric. We usually don't bully clubs but the gloves are off let's do it.

Get Sanches from Udinese shouldn't be too expensive.

Sign whatever GK we're looking at.

That's a plan stan :D Only problem is Spurs have more money than us :(

[manutdfan]

Yeah Rooneys a god, an icon, a superstar why can't he go round doing what he wants. Sleeping with hookers.

[santinomarella]

Sell Rooney to Spurs :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

That's a plan stan :D Only problem is Spurs have more money than us :(

Could be, depends on the money from the Ronaldo deal and the supposed Rooney deal is available or not. If they aren't 33x is right after all.


Yeah Rooneys a god, an icon, a superstar why can't he going round doing what he wants. Sleeping with hookers.

He should move to Italy, nice girls won't need to go to a brothel either.

[yourmumsface17]

Exactly :P ... lol

[manutdfan]

I bet Fergies sharping those elbows as we speak.

Razor elbows Ferguson was his nickname as a player.

[Tutankhamun]

I said when the hooker story came that his private life isn't a thing for the media or us to judge and I stand by that but that wasn't a thing that should be named in the same sentence as a prestigious club as Manchester United. And I do imagine SAF said something and that's probably a big reason for all of this.

Anyhow, I still haven't completely given up that Rooney will come around and sign a new deal and I would be fine with that but I will never ever respect him again.

[LC77]

Here's my plan:

Use the money to make Tottenham a deal they simple can't refuse for Modric. We usually don't bully clubs but the gloves are off let's do it.

Get Sanchez from Udinese shouldn't be too expensive.

Sign whatever GK we're looking at.

Here's my plan:

Relax. And see what happens.

I don't want to end up with a forehead like Gordon Ramsay!

[Tutankhamun]

Here's my plan:

Relax. And see what happens.

I don't want to end up with a forehead like Gordon Ramsay!

:lol: You guys that tells me to relax would hate me in real life, I can't relax ever.

[santinomarella]

Anyone watching the Chelsea game? Back in the stadium where they slipped up in the 2008 Champions League final. :D

[manutdfan]

If Rooney does leave we need to sell him abroad and use him to get a player we need in exchange.

I doubt Ferguson will get much of the money from Rooneys sale though. Like he didn't from the sale of Ronnie.

[Pez_555]

You shouldn't even be showing your face in this thread after you got done like a kipper by mumsface by his Torres remark.

i must have missed that one.

im a neutral though, dont support either teams. Torres is a better striker than wayne rooney, i doubt many neutrals would disagree. Of course he's going to say rooney is better. and i also wasnt talking about international football, in which case you could argue rooney is even worse.

who has a worse world cup, rooney or torres?

[Phaded]

The thing that's confusing about all of this is that yes about half a year ago Rooney said he wanted to stay at the club for life, but it was during the summer he said he wanted to leave, this was before all the accusations of his private life were revealed. One of two things has happened here, he's been swayed by money elsewhere or is genuinely annoyed by the clubs lack of "ambition" which strikes me as odd because much hasn't changed since him saying he wanted to stay at the club for life.

In my opinion he's been swayed by money elsewhere.. if this is the case then **** him, no one player is bigger than the club, sell him, replace him, life goes on simple as.

[Surebrec]

You could almost swap Rooney for Ferrari and Football for F1 and get the exact result from the F1 thread;
Ferrari not doing well = F1 is **** and has been for years
Ferrari doing well = FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!!


I guess United fans, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

aye!


It doesn't, I really only post in the F1 thread to troll if you hadn't noticed that I feel sorry for you. As for Rooney I've already explained why I lost my respect so do go back and read that (not that you will)

hypocrisy at its finest!!!


You do that, you big troll there.

I guess 2 wrongs DO make a right, who'd have thunk it???

[santinomarella]

From 2006


Cantona fears for rooney future

Cantona feels Rooney needs advice
Manchester United legend Eric Cantona fears Wayne Rooney's top-flight career could be over within five years.
Rooney, 20, is already a key player for United and England but Cantona is worried about his lifestyle.

He told the Daily Telegraph: "Rooney can be the best in the world at 25 if he knows you need to train hard, go to bed early and be careful what you eat.

"But he could also be out of the best teams, out of England, out of the best 100 players. Completely out."


Cantona feels Rooney needs advice now to ensure the longevity of his career.

He added: "This is very, very important. All the best players in the world knew all the time these kinds of things are very important.

"I am sure (United boss) Alex Ferguson is very strong and will help. Rooney is still young.

"But somebody needs to say it to him. The last time I saw him I wanted to say it but I saw him only quickly."

The former France international, 39, points at Robbie Fowler as an example of a teenage talent who has not fulfilled his full potential.

He said: "Fowler was so good at 18, and four, five years later, at 23 or 24, finished, not even playing regularly for England, not even for the best teams. Finished.

"Completely. Out. Why?

"Clubs should ask why this kind of player is out. They say in England it is very difficult because of the media pressure. But it is not more difficult than in Italy, Spain or Brazil."

:snicker

[manutdfan]

Anyone watching the Chelsea game? Back in the stadium where they slipped up in the 2008 Champions League final. :D

LOL!

Well done.

[Tutankhamun]

aye!



hypocrisy at its finest!!!



I guess 2 wrongs DO make a right, who'd have thunk it???

Just tell me one thing what do you want? You don't like me I don't like you big deal I never address you quote you or anything else so do me the favor I do you. In fact I'm going to go ahead and put you on my ignore list since you never post anything worth reading (in my eyes)

[Pez_555]

mmm popcorn

[manutdfan]

Fergie will give him a kiss anyway when he leaves a glasgow kiss.

[Tutankhamun]

Fergie will give him a kiss anyway when he leaves a glasgow kiss.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFlp6kl508

You broke my heart Rooney, you broke my heart.

[santinomarella]

This is the best way to sum up to members bemused at fans suddenly turning on Rooney...


We hate you so much because we loved you so much.

[Surebrec]

Just tell me one thing what do you want? You don't like me I don't like you big deal I never address you quote you or anything else so do me the favor I do you.

did you not even bother to read my earlier post??? I never said I don't like you, as I said, I don't even know you. you obviously don't like me though, but that's not a problem to me, I couldn't care less what some stranger I don't know thinks of me.

you seem to throw your rattles out of the pram too easily and get all pissy when people do to you what you do to them elsewhere. if you don't like the way people treat you, stop doing it in other threads.

you like to wind up mclaren & hamilton fans and as you admit "you like to troll" so put up with it if/when others do it to you here. you reap what you sow, get over it.

[Tutankhamun]

did you not even bother to read my earlier post??? I never said I don't like you, as I said, I don't even know you. you obviously don't like me though, but that's not a problem to me, I couldn't care less what some stranger I don't know thinks of me.

you seem to throw your rattles out of the pram too easily and get all pissy when people do to you what you do to them elsewhere. if you don't like the way people treat you, stop doing it in other threads.

you like to wind up mclaren & hamilton fans and as you admit "you like to troll" so put up with it if/when others do it to you here. you reap what you sow, get over it.

:lol: Pretty sure I've said I like Hamilton. I really don't dislike any team or driver, just a Ferrari fan nothing more nothing less. And yeah I don't like you.


This is the best way to sum up to members bemused at fans suddenly turning on Rooney...

Very true, he actually broke my heart.

[manutdfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFlp6kl508

You broke my heart Rooney, you broke my heart.

LOL!!!!

Yeah if Rooney wants to see Ryan Giggs Fergie will want to know 2 hours in advance so he's not there.

[Tutankhamun]

LOL!!!!

Yeah if Rooney wants to see Ryan Giggs Fergie will want to know 2 hours in advance so he's not there.

:lol: Neville made him an offer he can't refuse, that's why he left practice early ;)

[T0PGUN]

are all the mockney reds gonna go back to supporting barnet and leyton orient now? :snicker

/troll

[manutdfan]

:lol: Neville made him an offer he can't refuse, that's why he left practice early ;)

When Ryan Giggs retires. Mike Phelan and Rooney will go out on a fishing boat.

[Surebrec]

:lol: Pretty sure I've said I like Hamilton. I really don't dislike any team or driver, just a Ferrari fan nothing more nothing less. And yeah I don't like you.


I'm sure I'll cope with the fact of knowing you hate me, at least I know why you try to stir the **** in the F1 thread now. I thought it was just blinkered tifosi fanboyism in full effect. my mistake.

I won't follow your lead and play the victim though when you resume your anti-mclaren/anti-hamilton rhetoric this weekend.

[Tutankhamun]

When Ryan Giggs retires. Mike Phelan and Rooney will go out on a fishing boat.

I'm sure they will :lol:

Anyhow, does anyone else think this news will effect our performance tomorrow? Can't be good for moral.

[manutdfan]

I'm sure I'll cope with the fact of knowing you hate me, at least I know why you try to stir the **** in the F1 thread now. I thought it was just blinkered tifosi fanboyism in full effect. my mistake.

I won't follow your lead and play the victim though when you resume your anti-mclaren/anti-hamilton rhetoric this weekend.

This is the Man United thread.

[Surebrec]

This is the Man United thread.

yeah, and my original post was based on man united

[manutdfan]

yeah, and my original post was based on man united

Well done, but last few haven't been.

[Tutankhamun]

I'm sure I'll cope with the fact of knowing you hate me, at least I know why you try to stir the **** in the F1 thread now. I thought it was just blinkered tifosi fanboyism in full effect. my mistake.

I won't follow your lead and play the victim though when you resume your anti-mclaren/anti-hamilton rhetoric this weekend.

You're en fuego tonight, most be enjoying yourself?

[Shibby]

lol. you're not getting Torres.
1. You don't have money. The money from the Rooney sale won't be enough since he won't go for top dollar because of this. And in order to get Torres from Liverpool you'd have to pay wayyy over top dollar just because.
2. Torres, if he does leave, won't go to a rival. He loves the club and the fans too much.
3. I doubt Torres will leave at all if NESV pull out the checkbook and start rebuilding the squad. That's still a big "if" though.

I see one of three things happening.
1. Kaka for Rooney straight swap.
2. Benzema + cash for Rooney.
3. Rooney decides to stay.

I'll be really surprised if Rooney goes to a premier league team at all let alone a rival. He'll want a top team, and every Premier League team that is considered a "top" team is by nature a ManU rival.

[Surebrec]

Well done, but last few haven't been.

I'm not discussing F1, I was using what happens in the F1 thread as a reference.

mentioning F1 in passing in a man u thread is no less acceptable than mentioning any other non-united related material. it's not like the whole thread has been hijacked.


You're en fuego tonight, most be enjoying yourself?

I'm having a good time yeah, thanks for noticing.

[Aizen-Sama]

Still hopeful he might change his mind between now and Jan.

If he does go I think he will go abroad. Main reason he most likely wants to go is because he's sick of English fans after the worldcup and sick of the English media after his hooker affair so he probably wants to get away :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

I'm not discussing F1, I was using what happens in the F1 thread as a reference.

mentioning F1 in passing in a man u thread is no less acceptable than mentioning any other non-united related material. it's not like the whole thread has been hijacked.



I'm having a good time yeah, thanks for noticing.

Thread derailment is against the rules though, so if you have anything directed at me only better off taking it in a VM/PM or not at all which I prefer.

[Surebrec]

I haven't derailed anything, I mentioned it in passing. get over it.

[dc89]

M.U.S.T on Rooney: Disappointed, and unhappy that ‘we are unable to compete even with small clubs like Manchester City


’By Nick Harris

19 October 2010

The Manchester united Supporters Trust (MUST) has responded to the news that Wayne Rooney wants to leave the club, with a spokesman saying he is “disappointed”, and that “we still hold out hope that the situation can be resolved.”

MUST also use the development to highlight concerns over the ownership of the club, and have a pop at rivals Manchester City – bookies’ favourites to sign Rooney - for being a “small” club.

“We back Sir Alex’s judgement as ever but our concern lies with the owners,” the MUST spokesman said. “They have saddled us with a huge debt and they are taking more and more money out of the club every season and the lack of net investment in the squad since they arrived is clear to all. They’ve bought players but are they like for like replacements in terms of the quality of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Roy Keane and Cristiano Ronaldo?”

“Our club is generating record revenues yet it appears we are unable to compete even with small clubs like Manchester City let alone Chelsea, Madrid and Barcelona. We know where the money is going and it has to stop. The question being asked by many fans is does the ambition of the owners match that of Rooney or indeed Manchester United supporters? On the evidence so far it would appear the answer is clearly not.

“The contrast could hardly be starker between the owners at Manchester City who are pumping millions into their club while the Glazers are leaching huge amounts out of ours. People talk about players being greedy with multimillion pounds contracts but those figures pale into insignificance compared with the hundreds of millions the Glazers have extracted from Manchester United through their takeover.”

A protest march against the Glazers is planned before the Tottenham game on 30 October.

If you still have that kind of attitude towards City then you are foolish and not in the real world. SAF himself have called City a major threat. Let them go and do their protest march and after that they can take their seat in the stadium, the same seat which just cost them £50 which goes towards the Glazers.

[Tutankhamun]

Man Utd supporters fear for future without Wayne Rooney

Manchester United will find it hard to replace Wayne Rooney because of the owners' lack of ambition, according to supporters' group (MUST).

The 24-year-old striker could leave after boss Sir Alex Ferguson said he was unwilling to sign a new deal.
A MUST spokesman said: "The question being asked by many fans is does the ambition of the owners match that of Rooney or indeed supporters?
"On the evidence so far it would appear the answer is clearly not."
MUST, who have strong links to the Red Knights group who want to buy the club, are set to hold another protest against the club's owners prior to the match with Tottenham on 30 October.

The Glazer family, led by Malcolm Glazer, became owners of the club in 2005 to the anger of many United fans.
The majority of the cash used by Glazer to purchase the club is understood to have come in the form of loans, much of which have been secured against the club's assets.
The spokesman added: "We back Sir Alex's judgement as ever but our concern lies with the owners [the Glazers].
"The club is generating record revenues yet it appears we are unable to compete even with small clubs."
"They [the Glazers] have saddled us with a huge debt and they are taking more and more money out of the club every season and the lack of net investment in the squad since they arrived is clear to all.
"They've bought players, but are they like-for-like replacements in terms of the quality of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Roy Keane and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9107785.stm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

That's the million dollar question.

[dc89]

http://i56.tinypic.com/13z04lh.jpg

If this goes up, it will be classic.

[Tutankhamun]

http://i56.tinypic.com/13z04lh.jpg

If this goes up, it will be classic.

If City pulls that again they have no taste. So they probably would. You don't send the same commercial twice, first rule of advertising.

[Aizen-Sama]

http://i56.tinypic.com/13z04lh.jpg

If this goes up, it will be classic.

I think I would die of depression if I saw that. :lol:

[dc89]

Well I hope the marketing guys at City can think of something to trump that poster.

For what it's worth Rooney's cousin told me she reckon's he is off to city.

My twitter = http://twitter.com/dan_crehan

And her response:

http://i54.tinypic.com/wh1seg.png

[Tutankhamun]

Well I hope the marketing guys at City can think of something to trump that poster.

You really think you have a shot in hell landing him?

[three3-times]

SUBREC/TUT. seriously, keep it out of this thread........................or i will close the F1 and manutd thread for a lil!

[Galvanise_]

£50 million? Nah. Not worth that much.

I think he'll go abroad. He needs to get away from the UK media.

[Tutankhamun]

Well I hope the marketing guys at City can think of something to trump that poster.

For what it's worth Rooney's cousin told me she reckon's he is off to city.

My twitter = http://twitter.com/dan_crehan

And her response:

http://i54.tinypic.com/wh1seg.png

What the hell does his cousin know? Probably a fake acc anyway.

[StaticAge]

So... what exactly is going on in this thread now? I'm lost :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

So... what exactly is going on in this thread now? I'm lost :lol:

A whole lot, we'd had over 300 posts since the press conference. Closing in on 10,000!

[StaticAge]

I see :p

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7552/article13218940bad9de80.jpg

Wes and Owen don't look too concerned :lol::mrgreen:

[Tutankhamun]

Might as well announce this now, I have a little something planned for the poster that gets the 10,000th post in here. Just a little bone, nothing to big ;)

[StaticAge]

Just a little bone, nothing to big ;)

http://i55.tinypic.com/2kg9hy.gif

You what!?

:lol:

[Demiant]

I'm curious as to how this will play until Jan. Will we let Rooney rot in the reserves? Will we play him even though we know he's leaving and let the fans boo him all the way home? If he honestly said in August he wanted to leave then we should of sold him then, not wait till now. Did our staff think he'd miraculously change his mind?

I'm well gutted he's leaving, but no player is bigger than the club. I'm more gutted about the fact we won't get the money from his transfer to actually replace him. :(

[Tutankhamun]

http://i55.tinypic.com/2kg9hy.gif

You what!?

:lol:

That came out wrong :lol: A little gift, that's all I'm going to say :)


Here's a question, if Rooney changes his mind and decides to stay - What would be your opinion on him after that and how do you think he would be treated at OT?


I'm curious as to how this will play until Jan. Will we let Rooney rot in the reserves? Will we play him even though we know he's leaving and let the fans boo him all the way home? If he honestly said in August he wanted to leave then we should of sold him then, not wait till now. Did our staff think he'd miraculously change his mind?

I'm well gutted he's leaving, but no player is bigger than the club. I'm more gutted about the fact we won't get the money from his transfer to actually replace him. :(

I think he should be sent to the reserves, how can he play for us now? Its for his best and the clubs best.

[StaticAge]

No way do I want him to play again. Even if he changed his mind I wouldn't like it.

[dc89]

You really think you have a shot in hell landing him?

Yep a massive chance.

Here's why in a little detail.

1. City need a player who is a household name all over the world.
2. City need a player who can will sell shirts to improve turnover.
3. Rooney is believe to have said that United 'lack ambition'. City have thrown nearly £1billion pound at an ambition and there's plenty more money to come. You could say they are the most ambitious club in football at the moment.
4. I don't think he is going to learn Spanish when he struggles with English.
5. He's started a family, I don't think he is going to want to move, he can stay where he is and play for City.
6. Colleen's sister is terminally ill. She is devoted to her family and her sister. She won't leave england.
7. City can afford him.

[Tutankhamun]

Yep a massive chance.

Here's why in a little detail.

1. City need a player who is a household name all over the world.
2. City need a player who can will sell shirts to improve turnover.
3. Rooney is believe to have said that United 'lack ambition'. City have thrown nearly £1billion pound at an ambition and there's plenty more money to come. You could say they are the most ambitious club in football at the moment.
4. I don't think he is going to learn Spanish when he struggles with English.
5. He's started a family, I don't think he is going to want to move, he can stay where he is and play for City.
6. Colleen's sister is terminally ill. She is devoted to her family and her sister. She won't leave england.
7. City can afford him.

That may be true or it may not be, however United has no obligation to sell him to City they can chose what offer they accept. I don't think they would ever accept a bid from City for obvious reasons.

[dc89]

Who wouldn't. Fergie? Yeh he wouldn't.

But he may not have a say in it.

[manutdfan]

City are favourites to sign him.

[santinomarella]

Viva Hernandez. Viva Hernandez. Call him Little Pea. He ****s on Rooney. Viva Hernandez! :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

Who wouldn't. Fergie? Yeh he wouldn't.

But he may not have a say in it.

I don't think anyone can go against Fergie on this one.


City are favourites to sign him.

According to whom?

[StaticAge]

Viva Hernandez. Viva Hernandez. Call him Little Pea. He ****s on Rooney. Viva Hernandez! :lol:

I like it :lol:

[manutdfan]

Hernandez will get his chance now, he's got a lot of talent. We got Macheda, Berba and Owen aswell. Then there's Wellbeck to come back from loan. So I think we need a creative midfielder more than a forward.

[dc89]

I don't think anyone can go against Fergie on this one.



According to whom?

Yes they can. The Glazers won't care. They've already built you up a tidy £750M debt. £40M to them is £40M, it doesn't matter that it came from City.

Also every bookie has City down as favourites. 7/4.

[three3-times]

No they dont. Real are favorites to sign him.

AND WE NEED A DM MORE THAN AN AMC ATM!!!

[Tutankhamun]

Yes they can. The Glazers won't care. They've already built you up a tidy £750M debt. £40M to them is £40M, it doesn't matter that it came from City.

Also every bookie has City down as favourites. 7/4.

If SAF says I'll resign if we sell to City would they do it?

I don't give a **** what a bookie says, what the hell do they know? Only Rooney and his agent knows what they want at this point. I bet his agent is the one behind this, agents gets a cut of a sale.

[santinomarella]

From Jonny Evans twitter...


get outta here you nosey little pervert or im gonna slap you silly!!

:lol: Hmmm

[Tutankhamun]

Evans don't have a twitter, Rio has said several times that he's the only United player who has.

[three3-times]

WHICH else of our boys is on twitter? i thought it was just rio!?

[dc89]

http://www.teamtalk.co.za/news/2483/6454143/Bookies-back-City-to-win-Rooney-race


Wayne Rooney is odds-on to leave Manchester United during the January transfer window, with local rivals City favourites for his signature.

Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed on Tuesday afternoon that the striker wants to quit the Red Devils.

Rooney is now as short as 2/7 with Betfred and William Hill to leave Old Trafford during the next transfer window - Paddy Power will give you 4/7 - while bet365 offer 1/6 that he's gone by the time next summer's window is slammed shut.

As for his next club, Manchester City are widely regarded as favourites for Rooney's signature.

http://images.teamtalk.com/10/10/402x210/Wayne-Rooney-in-a-Manchester-City-shirt_2516965.jpg

Sky Bet make Manchester City 9/4 jollies to sign him in January.

The Leeds-based firm make Barcelona 9/2 second favourites while Real Madrid are available at 6/1 with Chelsea close behind at 8/1.

Sky Bet's Dale Tempest said: "What an incredible press conference from Sir Alex Ferguson. It's no longer a case of if Rooney leave but when and who to. It won't surprise anyone that City are the 9/4 favourites."

[santinomarella]

Well Rio tweeted the other day saying it was him. Ill try and find it to make sure I wasn't imagining things but he has a lot of tweets lol.

[Tutankhamun]

We get it dc, the bookies and the media thinks Rooney will go to City. Next!

[Demiant]

Who wouldn't. Fergie? Yeh he wouldn't.

But he may not have a say in it.


Yes they can. The Glazers won't care. They've already built you up a tidy £750M debt. £40M to them is £40M, it doesn't matter that it came from City.

Also every bookie has City down as favourites. 7/4.


http://www.teamtalk.co.za/news/2483/6454143/Bookies-back-City-to-win-Rooney-race


I don't think he'll go to City cos I don't think Fergie will allow it. IMO, it's win/win. Either Fergie doesn't allow it and the Glazers let him handle it and Rooney goes to RM... OR... Fergie doesn't allow it, but the Glazers go against him and sell it and put Fergie + every United fan who were still willing to look the other way against them and they'd be forced to leave the club within a year.

[StaticAge]

From Jonny Evans twitter...

:lol: Hmmm

"We know a cat who can really do the cool jerk..."

http://www.madfishestheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/homealone2.jpg

[santinomarella]

rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
@j23evans welcome 2 Twitterverse! We have a twitter virgin here 2day so handle him gently twitfam! Jonny Evans is in the place!

Here we go!

[Tutankhamun]

Here we go!

I'll be damned! I missed that tweet from Rio, not surprising since 80% of what he tweets sucks.

[dc89]

I don't think he'll go to City cos I don't think Fergie will allow it. IMO, it's win/win. Either Fergie doesn't allow it and the Glazers let him handle it and Rooney goes to RM... OR... Fergie doesn't allow it, but the Glazers go against him and sell it and put Fergie + every United fan who were still willing to look the other way against them and they'd be forced to leave the club within a year.

Surely the 2nd one is better for the long term?!

[Tutankhamun]

Surely the 2nd one is better for the long term?!

For the club yes but the Glazer don't see it that way thus option number one will be taken.

[StaticAge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5FrOEaflU

[santinomarella]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5FrOEaflU

:lol: Awesome

[Tutankhamun]

I don't know about you but I booed when Rooney was on screen :snicker

[StaticAge]

I don't know about you but I booed when Rooney was on screen :snicker

The dick tried to hit Sir Bobby with the ball :cuss

:lol:

[santinomarella]

Rooney will NEVER become as iconic as Sir Bobby!

[StaticAge]

Rooney will NEVER become as iconic as Sir Bobby!

The only thing he will ever have in common is the lack of hair.

[yourmumsface17]

Scholes and Berba were great :D lol

[Tutankhamun]

The story of Rooney:

He came he scored, he stopped scoring, he cum he left. (and a whole bunch of lies in between)

[StaticAge]

he cum

And even then he had to pay for it!

[yourmumsface17]

The story of Rooney:

He came he scored, he stopped scoring, he cum he left. (and a whole bunch of lies in between)

Sounds like my weekend...

[santinomarella]

The only thing he will ever have in common is the lack of hair.

:lol:

[Tutankhamun]

Sounds like my weekend...

I bet xD You payed as well? :snicker

[yourmumsface17]

I bet xD You payed as well? :snicker
yourmumsface17 does not comment on speculation and rumours... :P

[Tutankhamun]

yourmumsface17 does not comment on speculation and rumours... :P

Fine I'll just ask The Sun then :D

[yourmumsface17]

Fine I'll just ask The Sun then :D
Lol I'm sure they will find a "close source" that will tell you all about my weekend :D

[santinomarella]

Fine I'll just ask The Sun then :D

:lol: You will know all the facts now!

[manutdfan]

I bet xD You payed as well? :snicker

Payed for the birds drinks yeah, student uni bar and the town, clubs around the uni is clunge central.

[Tutankhamun]

Lol I'm sure they will find a "close source" that will tell you all about my weekend :D

You bet!


:lol: You will know all the facts now!

And then some ;)


Payed for the birds drinks yeah, student uni bar and the town, clubs around the uni is clunge central.

That's fair game!

[yourmumsface17]

Payed for the birds drinks yeah, student uni bar and the town, clubs around the uni is clunge central.
More like paid for the ruffies ;)

I joke I swear!!!! *cough*

[santinomarella]

It's like were going through the 5 stages of grief lol, earlier it was anger and depression, and now were breaking out all the jokes it's like acceptance. :lol:

[manutdfan]

More like paid for the ruffies ;)

I joke I swear!!!! *cough*

haha!

She got slipped something anyway

[Tutankhamun]

Haha tonight when we go to bed we'll cry a little :lol: Just realized there has been a constant flow of posts here since the press conference quite a few hours ago!

[yourmumsface17]

Lol we were in denial yesterday when we thought he was staying :(

*waits for the bargain stage*.. "I would do anything for Rooney to stay" (Tut must have said that :P)

It's like you said "We hate him so much because we loved him so much" It's like when a partner decides to leave you :( you just hate them, when it is kind of unreasonable to haha.

[Tutankhamun]

Oh I still want him to stay but I realize its almost impossible. But if he apologizes I can live with it.

[manutdfan]

Yeah its a shame rooney wants out but united will just have to move on, like we always do.

[yourmumsface17]

2500 posts Manutdfan... congrats :D

[manutdfan]

2500 posts Manutdfan... congrats :D

LOL!!

Thanks my man.

[Tutankhamun]

Wonder who added this tag? "f**k man u- rooney"

Also 2,500 posts is good but I got 10k :lol:

[manutdfan]

Wonder who added this tag? "f**k man u- rooney"

Also 2,500 posts is good but I got 10k :lol:

Lol... don't show off Tut.

[mankind]

The thing is when we lost great players in the past we didnt have to compete with chelsea and man city's spending power, we also were not in so much debt. The youngs ones like macheda and welbeck...

[Tutankhamun]

I still don't think I quite understand what has happened. This is insane if you think about it. All I want from Rooney is an explanation I think he owes the club and it's fans that.

Also it was sad to see SAF today, he looked hurt I think Rooney ripped a part of his heart out.

[Pez_555]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/the-happy-clown/mj_popcorn.gif

[Firefox]

Ah the days when Tutankhamun had called Rooney "The White Pele".. those were the days. :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

Ah the days when Tutankhamun had called Rooney "The White Pele".. those were the days. :lol:

I can't help to think how Brian Burke would have handled a situation like this or we kind of do happened in Vancouver. SAF should take a similar approach when City calls.

[John25]

I can't help to think how Brian Burke would have handled a situation like this or we kind of do happened in Vancouver. SAF should take a similar approach when City calls.

What by immediatly putting the Phone down as soon as City call :P

Anyways im hoping he goes for big bucks as it will help us Sign Donovan permantly

[yourmumsface17]

What by immediatly putting the Phone down as soon as City call :P

Anyways im hoping he goes for big bucks as it will help us Sign Donovan permantly

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the clause had expired :mrgreen:

[Tutankhamun]

What by immediatly putting the Phone down as soon as City call :P

Anyways im hoping he goes for big bucks as it will help us Sign Donovan permantly

By informing them, and Rooney, that thus is not a situation where he can decide where to go.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmujnpAyhwA

First ~20 seconds or so.

[Firefox]

I can't help to think how Brian Burke would have handled a situation like this or we kind of do happened in Vancouver. SAF should take a similar approach when City calls.

I think he respects players wishes now and wouldn't want it to stain the dressing room or mentality of the player and sell/trade immediately and theoretically if Rooney was a hockey player (stay with me.. :lol:) and on the Leafs he'd just let him go.. but not without getting maximum amount of money.

[John25]

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the clause had expired :mrgreen:

nope it was on the Local news before that there is a 25% Profit sell on Clause over 26 mil (But you wouldn't have seen it living down London with the rest of United supporters ;))

j/k mate

But on red cafe they are only saying it's apparently Expired.

[yourmumsface17]

nope it was on the Local news before that there is a 25% Profit sell on Clause over 26 mil (But you wouldn't have seen it living down London with the rest of United supporters ;))

j/k mate

But on red cafe they are only saying it's apparently Expired.

Lol well I don't know then, lets hope it's expired :D

[John25]

Lol well I don't know then, lets hope it's expired :D

erm no lets not as according to the NOTW Barca are about to put in an 85 million Bid LMAO :P

[yourmumsface17]

erm no lets not as according to the NOTW Barca are about to put in an 85 million Bid LMAO :P

I hope they do :D

[Pez_555]

in all honesty i think man utd will be fine without rooney, yes its a loss but you still have a decent side

[Tutankhamun]

Well for me it feels like someone ripped out your heart, ate it raw. Proceeded to suck out your soul spit it out and took a **** on it. I cant begin to explain how much I liked Rooney, honestly this is probably one of the worst days of my life. I was very sad when Beckham left but this is worse. I'm having issues going to sleep now too.

For opposing fans this situation might be funny but it's effecting me emotionally.

[StaticAge]

They really need to get better Photoshoppers

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Wayne-Rooney-s-transfer-from-Manchester-United-could-break-Cristiano-Ronaldo-s-80m-world-record-fee-article606297.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

:lol:

[yourmumsface17]

lmao that awful photoshopping

[Pez_555]

Well for me it feels like someone ripped out your heart, ate it raw. Proceeded to suck out your soul spit it out and took a **** on it. I cant begin to explain how much I liked Rooney, honestly this is probably one of the worst days of my life. I was very sad when Beckham left but this is worse. I'm having issues going to sleep now too.

For opposing fans this situation might be funny but it's effecting me emotionally.

christ mate, thats not good!

[Surebrec]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238/the-happy-clown/mj_popcorn.gif

http://209.85.12.227/441/131/emo/yes.gif

[Firefox]

Question for you all now is: Who do you want to come to United now? .. that are reasonable to get in January of course or via the club you think Rooney will go to.

on an unrelated note..I hate to advertise here but "Due South" a great Canadian show is on BBC now! Check it out on your iPlayer. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJyb4lMXkg

[rich2086]

in all honesty i think man utd will be fine without rooney, yes its a loss but you still have a decent side

You need more than a decent side to win major silverware.

Rooneys leaving
Ferdinands crocked
Scholes isnt getting any younger
Giggs see above ^^

Your not really any better than spurs after that imo, currently spurs have a better "squad" so how your gonna challenge Man city, Chelsea and Arsenal?

If i was SAF id retire at the end of the season with my head held high lets face it the good times are over there's no money and there are more attractive clubs in England and even in your back garden. The best way forward is the Arsenal approach and look how much they have won over the last 5 years.

[StaticAge]

Question for you all now is: Who do you want to come to United now? .. that are reasonable to get in January of course or via the club you think Rooney will go to.

If he goes to Madrid, then £50m + Ronaldo + Benzema + Kaka will do :lol:

[John25]

If he goes to Madrid, then £50m + Ronaldo + Benzema + Kaka + Jose will do :lol:

Fixed. :P

[Shibby]

If he goes to Madrid, then £50m + Ronaldo + Benzema + Kaka will do :lol:

all kidding aside, this is essentially handing in a transfer request. meaning top dollar goes out the window. even then though I expect you to get 50m or equivalent for him.

either a straight swap for Kaka or something like 20-30m+Benzema.

[Tutankhamun]

Wayne Rooney's arch adviser heads for another big pay day

Wayne Rooney plays for England in a summer tournament, then returns to gory tabloid stories exposing his alleged weakness for prostitutes. Further stories soon follow, that he has fallen out with his Scottish disciplinarian manager and wants a transfer. The manager denies any falling out, but complains that, despite all his club have done for the "boy", Rooney's "advisers" say he wants a move.

That was Sir Alex Ferguson yesterday, and, right down to the tabloid exposés, it was also David Moyes, in August 2004, when Everton's manager faced up to the 18-year-old "once a blue, always a blue" prodigy leaving for Manchester United.

"The club gave him the opportunity to come into football," Moyes said then. "I have a great relationship with Wayne. I have been in regular discussions with Wayne's advisers and we were getting closer on the new contract. [But] Wayne and his advisers have now told me their preference would be to leave. I'm so disappointed."

Ferguson said yesterday: "We've always been there as a harbour for him. There has been no falling out. David [Gill] had opened talks with Wayne's agent, and that was to be continued after the World Cup. Then David had a call from his agent saying that Wayne wasn't going to sign his contract. I'm very disappointed."

The agent who orchestrated Rooney's move then, and is orchestrating it now, is Paul Stretford, the former vacuum cleaner salesman with the chequered career in football, and now heading for another almighty pay day. Rooney, the boyhood Everton fan and player who had pledged his life to the Blues, made himself a red on transfer deadline day, 31 August 2004. The £20m United paid and £50,000 per week salary Stretford negotiated for him made Stretford an initial £1m, rising to £1.5m if Rooney stayed at United for five years. Now, he has.

Stretford has always known this next contract of Rooney's, for the mature five years of a footballer's liftetime, from the age of 25 to 30, ought to dwarf that fee, and be the most lucrative of both their careers and, very likely, ever in English football.

The lengths Stretford went to sign Rooney in the first place emerged in a series of dragged-out hearings which culminated in him being described as an unreliable witness in Warrington crown court, banned by the Football Association from acting as an agent for nine months and fined £300,000 for breaches of the agents' code of conduct.

The very day Rooney scored a sensational hat-trick on his United debut in the Champions League against Fenerbahce, 28 September 2004, the Crown Prosecution Service dropped its case against three men accused of blackmailing Stretford.

The three, associates of Rooney's first agent, Peter McIntosh, had been accused of making unwarranted demands with menaces of Stretford, for a slice of the Rooney earnings, after the teenage Evertonian left McIntosh and first signed for Proactive. Stretford had said he did not poach Rooney, that he agreed first to represent the player for image rights alone – understood to be paying a commission of 20% – in July 2002.

He said he then waited until Rooney's contract with McIntosh expired in December that year. However, in court it emerged that Stretford's July 2002 contract stated that he would represent Rooney fully as a player, for eight years, a breach of the rule that players can be signed for a maximum of two. Then they signed a further one, again for Rooney to be represented as a player, in September 2002.

The emergence of those contracts meant the trial collapsed immediately, the three defendants were declared not guilty, and the CPS barrister said the two contracts "seriously call into question the evidence of Paul Stretford", and "we do not feel able to rely upon Paul Stretford as a witness".

Stretford always said he had believed those two contracts were for image rights only, but after lengthy legal proceedings, in July 2008 the Football Association found him guilty of poaching, entering into the eight-year contract, and of making a misleading witness statement and giving misleading evidence in court. Stretford described the outcome as "a travesty", appealed, lost, then finally, in May 2009, withdrew an arbitration claim and began his nine-month suspension. It expired in February this year, when he returned, ready to negotiate Rooney's next deal.

Throughout all that Rooney became the branded modern football superstar, and has stayed loyal to Stretford, as did his wife, Coleen, whose celebrity media and TV career Stretford also negotiated. Stretford will argue that for all the vitriol which has lingered at Everton it was the right move, to Old Trafford, where Rooney has, until now, woven a glittering career.

Among the eerie similarities now there is that one too: the argument that it is right to go, because United, laden with the Glazers' £769m debts, are failing to replace Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez and soon-to-retire Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs, so for Rooney, success lies elsewhere.

For Stretford, the arch adviser, the higher the wages reaped from these manoeuvres, the greater the commission.

I'm convinced his agent is behind this crap, hopefully Rooney sees trough that douchebag and fires him.

In other news Mourinho have said he believes Rooney will change his mind a write a lifetime contract with United.

[yourmumsface17]

I'm convinced his agent is behind this crap, hopefully Rooney sees trough that douchebag and fires him.

In other news Mourinho have said he believes Rooney will change his mind a write a lifetime contract with United.

That statement says to me that Mourinho is interested in Rooney, which is good news

[Tutankhamun]

Alex Ferguson's stance poses questions about Wayne Rooney's attitude
The Manchester United manager has cast Rooney as a mercenary with no regard for the club's health

There are still times in his 24 years as Manchester United manager when Sir Alex Ferguson peels his jacket off for a fight. Challenged the way he has been by Wayne Rooney and his camp, he reverts to survival mode. In his thoughts he returns to the streets of Govan.

This conflict was not one he invited. But such has been the level of provocation from his rebellious star that Ferguson was forced to go on the counter to protect his own standing with the club's owners and supporters. His dissection of Rooney's mutinous conduct was about as good as daytime television is ever likely to get.

Some detected a wounded air about Ferguson at a riveting press briefing in Manchester. Some thought he seemed sad – beaten, even – as if an ungrateful 24-year-old had shattered his beliefs about what a Manchester United player should be, and how he ought to behave. The word is that any sorrow Ferguson displayed stems from his conviction that he had helped and protected his star through many a personal convulsion and red card brouhaha and was now being repaid with a kind of contempt.

But equally he was in snorting political form. The alternative strategy would have been to excoriate the first journalist bold enough to ask what was going on. Instead he came armed with a speech that nailed several damaging myths and cast Rooney as a mercenary with no regard for United's health.

This was a veteran problem solver retaking control of a power struggle that had run away from him and his employer. There was disappointment, censure, bafflement, a restatement of club ethics and a nasty problem for Rooney now to solve. How can he escape the suggestion of unprofessionalism? His whole career has been constructed around the idea that here was a street warrior who would never stop running, never stop loving the game, never let you down.

When Cristiano Ronaldo declared his intention to move from United to Real Madrid, a deal was struck that was honoured by both sides. United would sell him to Spain, a year from the date of the agreement, provided he went on toiling for the good of the collective.

This was the hope Ferguson carried into this campaign, when Rooney announced – in August, we now learn – he would not be renewing the contract that expires in the summer of 2012. "Not renewing" is actually too prissy a phrase. By backing out of the contract negotiations, Rooney was forcing United to sell him before his transfer value plunged: by next summer at the latest, but more logically in January.

Even then a fragile peace prevailed. Ferguson had every reason to expect another gut-busting shift from the PFA and Football Writers' Association footballer of the year for 2009-2010. Instead: crisis and distraction. In large measure Rooney has served up only sulks and apathy: a haunting realisation for those United supporters who chanted for him to be brought on against West Bromwich Albion at the weekend.

The truth jumped out like a scalded cat when Ferguson addressed the microphone on the eve of the team's Champions League tie against Bursaspor at Old Trafford. In this last decade, especially, the United manager has managed seismic change. The longevity of Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville only accentuates the contrast between the homegrown heroes from the 90s and today's self-absorbed nomads.

"Just remember one thing: respect this club. I don't want any nonsense from you, respect your club," Ferguson told Rooney when divorce was mooted. This is the killer line: the statement of ancient managerial principle on which the whole saga turned.

Ferguson was evidently asking the refusenik to be sensitive to the needs of the club that had elevated him to football's biggest stage. A fair exchange was in place. Instead: the treachery of the Wembley mixed zone, where Rooney contradicted Ferguson's claim that he had been carrying an ankle injury prior to the England- Montenegro game.

Observe the new Roy Keane, come and walk round him, he is colossally egocentric. When the great Keano persuaded himself he was the new manager and challenged Ferguson's authority once too often, the real boss moved with brutal clarity. The same values were visible back then. Keane was expelled, purged, for moving against the leader, and the club responded by constructing the second Champions League winning side of the Ferguson era.

"We've done everything we can for Wayne Rooney since the minute he came to the club," Ferguson told MUTV, turning another screw. "We've always been there as a harbour for him." There is a subtext here: 'I trusted this lad. I thought we had a deal. Buy him if you like. But good luck if you do.'

Ronaldo's exit was smoothly managed in the end, and mutual admiration endures. Rooney finds himself on a different road out of Old Trafford. On the way, he compromised Ferguson's standing with the Stretford End and chipped away at his authority until a whirlwind blew. "This is a club which bases all its history and its tradition on the loyalty and trust between managers and players and the club," the manager said. Implication: Rooney knows nothing of these things, and the loss, ultimately, is his, because United will prosper without him.

Reliable sources say there will be big-name replacements by the summer. Today's press conference was the first step to another reconstruction.

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/19/sir-alex-ferguson-wayne-rooney)

Gives a good perspective on things, I still want to know why Rooney wants to leave though.

Liked the last part, tons of rumors saying we're after Torres hard.

[yourmumsface17]

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/19/sir-alex-ferguson-wayne-rooney)

Gives a good perspective on things, I still want to know why Rooney wants to leave though.

Liked the last part, tons of rumors saying we're after Torres hard.

we WILL not get Torres!!!

Lets put an end to it!

[Tutankhamun]

we WILL not get Torres!!!

Lets put an end to it!

I don't think so either but the media is saying we're making a bid so maybe we are? But I do not believe Liverpool will sell to us. If any striker its Benzema I think.

[yourmumsface17]

I don't think so either but the media is saying we're making a bid so maybe we are? But I do not believe Liverpool will sell to us. If any striker its Benzema I think.

I don't think were even gonna sign a striker to be honest.

[Tutankhamun]

Probably not, so Real or whoever will most likely need to cash up big time to sign him.

[yourmumsface17]

I can see him going for 35-40 million to be honest

[Tutankhamun]

United won't sell Roo to City

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01147/rooney2_12_682x400_1147540a.jpg

WAYNE IN PAIN ... Rooney lies injured after a challenge with Paul Scholes in training

MANCHESTER UNITED last night vowed to stop Wayne Rooney joining hated neighbours Manchester City - as Barcelona and Chelsea prepared to pounce.

Roo's days at Old Trafford are numbered after an emotional Alex Ferguson confirmed his star striker wants to desert.

City are willing to offer him around £250,000 a week - but United would rather see him go abroad or even to Chelsea than let that happen.

And Barca coach Pep Guardiola last night confirmed: "He is one of the greatest players in the world as there are very few players with his qualities.

"He's a player I admire very much."

The Sun revealed yesterday Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti would welcome Rooney.

While that would hardly please United, their biggest fear would be to see him join City - and then watch the forward fire them to the Premier League title.

An Old Trafford insider said: "That would be a nightmare and we'll do everything possible to stop it happening."

But United's resolve may be stretched as moneybags City have the cash to offer more than any other club.

Rooney's value has already plummeted because he will only have a year left on his contract next summer.

Barca will expect to get him for around £25m - whereas City could tempt debt-ridden United with considerably more.

Rooney, 25 this Sunday, is aiming for £150,000 a week in wages - AFTER tax!

City are unlikely to flinch at such a figure while Barca should find it easy to offer that due to Spain's low taxation levels.

But wherever Roo goes, it is unlikely he will ever pull on a United shirt again.

Boss Ferguson yesterday accused Rooney of letting him and the club down and the striker is certain to face a ferocious backlash from fans.

Roo will miss tonight's Champions League match against Bursaspor.

He was carried off in training yesterday after injuring his ankle following a Paul Scholes challenge.

But even when he is fit again in 10 days' time, Ferguson is unlikely to pick him.

Source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3187899/Manchester-United-have-vowed-to-stop-Wayne-Rooney-joining-hated-rivals-Manchester-City.html)

That's right, **** you City.


Wayne Rooney should 'call me' if he leaves Man United says José Mourinho
• 'If United decide that he is to leave, then give me a call!'
• With Rooney on the market: 'Everybody would be interested'

Real Madrid boss José Mourinho would be interested in signing Wayne Rooney should Manchester United decide they have no option but to sell the England striker. He told Sky Sports that should Rooney leave he should: "give me a call!"

United manager Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed on Tuesday that Rooney wants to leave the club, and barring a change of heart from the player it means he is almost certain to leave either in January or at the end of the season.

Speaking after Real's 2-0 win over AC Milan in the Champions League, Mourinho said: "He will stay. He probably wants to leave for some reason but I believe he belongs to Man United, he belongs to Man United fans, he belongs to Old Trafford. But if at the end of the day Man United decide that he is to leave, then give me a call!"

Real are one of the few clubs with the financial muscle to attract Rooney, and Mourinho would clearly be prepared to listen if the chance to sign the player arose. The former Chelsea boss admitted he would not be alone in a bidding war if the England striker is put on the market.

"Everybody would be interested! But again, I don't think so, I think and I wish … I wish because I like him, I like Sir Alex, I like Man United. I believe the best thing for him is to stay there for life."

Asked about whether he liked the idea of a prospective move reuniting Rooney with Cristiano Ronaldo, with whom he had so much success at Old Trafford, Mourinho laughed: "Yeah, but he will stay at Old Trafford for sure," he said.

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/20/wayne-rooney-man-united-jose-mourinho)

Jose seems very confident this will blow over, maybe he knows something?

[yourmumsface17]

Looking at the WBA goals against us, jeez we were so unlucky, we are so going through an unlucky spell.

United will find their swagger and hit form again soon I am convinced.

[mankind]

When rooney leaves we need a new striker, there is no ifs or buts. We also need a winger and an attacking midfielder, not to mention we will need a new goalkeeper soon too. Who will be our star in the team when rooney goes? Nani? berbs? Im still gutted by all this, get the glazers ****ing out of our club and sell to a multi billionair. I just dont have faith in welbeck or macheda, out of those two I would pick macheda if it came to it.

[R3D D3V!L]

Source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3187899/Manchester-United-have-vowed-to-stop-Wayne-Rooney-joining-hated-rivals-Manchester-City.html)

That's right, **** you City.



Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/20/wayne-rooney-man-united-jose-mourinho)

Jose seems very confident this will blow over, maybe he knows something?

I think Mourinho wants Rooney to stay because he wants Rooney here if/when he becomes United manager.

[yourmumsface17]

When rooney leaves we need a new striker, there is no ifs or buts. We also need a winger and an attacking midfielder, not to mention we will need a new goalkeeper soon too. Who will be our star in the team when rooney goes? Nani? berbs? Im still gutted by all this, get the glazers ****ing out of our club and sell to a multi billionair. I just dont have faith in welbeck or macheda, out of those two I would pick macheda if it came to it.

Why do we need a striker? We haven't had issues scoring at all this season, it's just the defending that has been p*** poor.

Berba
Macheda
Owen
Wellbeck
Chicharito

5 decent strikers there, not to mention Joshua King in the reserves looks good :p We talk about our youths being good and all that, but if they aren't gonna get thrown in the deep end then they have no chance.

I think they should atleast get a chance this season, if it doesn't work then maybe look for an option in the summer?

I agree with your assessment of a wide player and a midfielder completely though. I hope Ben Amos is good enough to become a top keeper aswell.

[Phaded]

Dream deal for me would be Rooney to Real for Kaka + Cash, which isn't to unrealistic considering how well Ozil has fitted in at Madrid Kaka will find it hard to play games, if we can get his top form out of him we all know he's class. Aside from that i'd love it if we signed Rodwell.

[manutdfan]

It's highly unlikely we'll get Kaka, Man City tried to sign him and he said he didn't want to play in England he'd get kicked too much.

Big fee then bring in a few players in positions that we need with the money.

[mankind]

Why do we need a striker? We haven't had issues scoring at all this season, it's just the defending that has been p*** poor.

Berba
Macheda
Owen
Wellbeck
Chicharito

5 decent strikers there, not to mention Joshua King in the reserves looks good :p We talk about our youths being good and all that, but if they aren't gonna get thrown in the deep end then they have no chance.

I think they should atleast get a chance this season, if it doesn't work then maybe look for an option in the summer?

I agree with your assessment of a wide player and a midfielder completely though. I hope Ben Amos is good enough to become a top keeper aswell.


Those 3 I have bolded is far to much of a risk to just put them in the first team, lets be real here, yes owen is a proven goalscorer but is injured all the time, he also is not the player he used to be, Macheda is still umproven imo, from what I have seen he has the potential but is it worth the risk? Wellbeck is like the old nani, he doesnt think when he has the ball, it will take time with him, I have not seen him play out on loan so I dont know how he is doing.

That leaves berby and chico, berbatov has shown what he can do, he is an amazing player and can win matched for us (see the liverpool game) chico has already shown he can score in the big matches, that goal againts valencia was great!, he showed no panic and no fear, to me he is sorta like a young owen, small, quick and an eye for goal. Now if berby and chico were to get injured, do you honestly believe macheda and wellbeck can do the job? or add in owen if he is not injured. What defence would be scared of that? we need that striker that will scare defenders.

[manutdfan]

It will be interesting to see what happens between now and Jan, will Rooney play much?

[yourmumsface17]

Those 3 I have bolded is far to much of a risk to just put them in the first team, lets be real here, yes owen is a proven goalscorer but is injured all the time, he also is not the player he used to be, Macheda is still umproven imo, from what I have seen he has the potential but is it worth the risk? Wellbeck is like the old nani, he doesnt think when he has the ball, it will take time with him, I have not seen him play out on loan so I dont know how he is doing.

That leaves berby and chico, berbatov has shown what he can do, he is an amazing player and can win matched for us (see the liverpool game) chico has already shown he can score in the big matches, that goal againts valencia was great!, he showed no panic and no fear, to me he is sorta like a young owen, small, quick and an eye for goal. Now if berby and chico were to get injured, do you honestly believe macheda and wellbeck can do the job? or add in owen if he is not injured. What defence would be scared of that? we need that striker that will scare defenders.

I see your point! I agree to an extent. But how will they ever get better if they are not getting games? They need to play.

I don't think Rooney will play again.

[manutdfan]

If Rooney goes we won't have a big global name that can sell lots of shirts. Maybe Chicho can become that.

[Demiant]

Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/19/sir-alex-ferguson-wayne-rooney)

Gives a good perspective on things, I still want to know why Rooney wants to leave though.

Liked the last part, tons of rumors saying we're after Torres hard.


I don't think so either but the media is saying we're making a bid so maybe we are? But I do not believe Liverpool will sell to us. If any striker its Benzema I think.
Seriously you're friggin' obsessed with Torres. We won't get him. Liverpool will never sell him to us and the man won't come to us even if he could. I don't want him at United, plain and simple. Even if we get him less then what we sell Rooney for, I don't want him. He's Liverpool through & through, I don't want him. He'd just join Hargreaves in the infirmary, I don't want him.


If Rooney goes we won't have a big global name that can sell lots of shirts. Maybe Chicho can become that.
Maybe, too soon to tell.

[yourmumsface17]

If Rooney goes we won't have a big global name that can sell lots of shirts. Maybe Chicho can become that.

Not fussed if we have a global name or not. I personally think it'll be Nani if we do have one.

Maybe we will become a team and not play for just one player, that would be nice.

[Tutankhamun]

I think Mourinho wants Rooney to stay because he wants Rooney here if/when he becomes United manager.

Yeah I think so too! The way Mourinho speaks about United makes it clear he wants to come here in the future.


It will be interesting to see what happens between now and Jan, will Rooney play much?

Rooney won't play a game unless he changes his mind and sign a new contract. Can you imagine the reception he'd get?


Seriously you're friggin' obsessed with Torres. We won't get him. Liverpool will never sell him to us and the man won't come to us even if he could. I don't want him at United, plain and simple. Even if we get him less then what we sell Rooney for, I don't want him. He's Liverpool through & through, I don't want him. He'd just join Hargreaves in the infirmary, I don't want him.

Not really, I just think out of the options and looking at the kind of strikers we have Torres might be the best fit. But its highly unlikely.

[manutdfan]

Just played a game online on Fifa I dropped Rooney out of the squad. I had Chicho in.

[yourmumsface17]

Just played a game online on Fifa I dropped Rooney out of the squad. I had Chicho in.

I did the same in the fifa league

[manutdfan]

I did the same in the fifa league

Had to be done.

What can I do about my Rooney tattoo though?

[Tutankhamun]

About that, what should one do with him on FIFA? I don't know if I should extended the contract or sell him in Career Mode :p


Had to be done.

What can I do about my Rooney tattoo though?

Make it green and say its Shrek.

[manutdfan]

Ship him out for mega bucks

[Tutankhamun]

The board will probably fire me if I do :lol:

[manutdfan]

If Man City want him we'll take 40 million plus Hart and Johnson.

[Pez_555]

i wonder how much potential revenue will be lost when rooney goes. How many people buy a united shirt with rooney on the back?

[Tutankhamun]

i wonder how much potential revenue will be lost when rooney goes. How many people buy a united shirt with rooney on the back?

Glad I never go around to order mine, would be a shame to burn it. Probably just going to get a Giggs one now, at least that's a name you can be proud of forever.

[Pez_555]

or Scholes. I have a lot of respect for that guy.

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah, either of them. Need to make it down to OT sooner or later, should be easier to get tickets these days :snicker

[Pez_555]

and it comes to cantonaaaaaa!!!!!!!

you just couldnt write this script

[Firefox]

Selling to any other club in the Premiership would be a stupid move, you might as well hand Chelsea the trophy. :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

Mancini also thinks Rooney will stay, a snippet from a BBC article:


No Man City contact with Wayne Rooney - Roberto Mancin

[sic]But in the press conference ahead of his team's Europa League home match against Polish side Lech Poznan on Thursday, Mancini echoed the comments of Jose Mourinho - whose Real Madrid side have also been linked with the player - when he said he expected Rooney to stay at United.
"He is an important player for United and I think he will stay," added Mancini. "I have respect for him, for Ferguson, for United. I want to speak only about my players."

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9107785.stm)

At least City has a manger with some class now.

[Pez_555]

at the end of the day only Rooney knows what he wants to do, until he actually says what he wants then we can all speculate as much as we want.

[Tutankhamun]

Why isn't he telling though? He hasn't even told SAF from what I read. Frankly I don't find that acceptable.

Also this is going to sound crazy but I thought about it last night when I couldn't sleep and why not share:

What if this is just one last great plot from SAF and Gill to get rid of the Glazers? Maybe Rooney has agreed to help get rid of the Glazers by first leaking to the press that he wants out and then have SAF announce it. SAF says, as he did, that he don't know the reason and in a few days Rooney will say he doesn't like the Glazers. So the fans will outrage and protest like no tomorrow forcing the Glazers to sell the club and after that Rooney will extended the contract. After all why do this when he still have such a long time left? Could this all be one of SAF's greatest moments ever to get rid of the Glazers once and for all?

I don't know, this all could be a plot right who knows? All the other managers seems convinced Rooney is staying so maybe they know something?

[manutdfan]

Rooneys bound to have been tapped up by other clubs, why would he come out and say he wants to leave otherwise. Rooney and his agent will already know know what offers they can get from other clubs.

[Demiant]

i wonder how much potential revenue will be lost when rooney goes. How many people buy a united shirt with rooney on the back?
Hopefully? Lots... so the Glazer scum leave sooner rather than later.


or Scholes. I have a lot of respect for that guy.


and it comes to cantonaaaaaa!!!!!!!

you just couldnt write this script
My 2 favourite United players of all time.


Rooneys bound to have been tapped up by other clubs, why would he come out and say he wants to leave otherwise. Rooney and his agent will already know know what offers they can get from other clubs.
I think he already knows where he's going and has already gotten contact from that club, and I think United have also already received contact.

[manutdfan]

If Collen leaves him between now and Janruary he might sign for Liverpool to spit her and her family.

[Tutankhamun]

I won't lose hope until he's sold, still think we can get an extension done.

[Demiant]

If Collen leaves him between now and Janruary he might sign for Liverpool to spit her and her family.
Liverpool's the last club in the world he'd join. He absolutely hates them. There's a chance he'll go to Man City, but there's absolutely no chance of him going to Liverpool... not even to spite someone.

[Tutankhamun]

We won't sell to City according to the papers, if he goes its to Madrid IMO.

Also looked into that buy out thing DC was talking about, turns out if you use that you can not sign with another club in the same country. So he can't do that and go to City.

[Demiant]

I won't lose hope until he's sold, still think we can get an extension done.
Frankly I'm not entirely sure I want one done now. With what's come out and been said, I can't see the fans forgiving him unless he has a huge press conference and explains everything and we learn he's not entirely to blame. And even if that happens, he's still already lost a lot of fans he won't gain back simply because of the disrespect he's shown.

To think, just a few days ago our fans were chanting his name for him to come on against WBA. I'm sure the players already knew he was leaving so it had to hurt hearing the fans chant the name of somebody who couldn't give a rat's *ss about them or the club.

[Tutankhamun]

Frankly I'm not entirely sure I want one done now. With what's come out and been said, I can't see the fans forgiving him unless he has a huge press conference and explains everything and we learn he's not entirely to blame. And even if that happens, he's still already lost a lot of fans he won't gain back simply because of the disrespect he's shown.

To think, just a few days ago our fans were chanting his name for him to come on against WBA. I'm sure the players already knew he was leaving so it had to hurt hearing the fans chant the name of somebody who couldn't give a rat's *ss about them or the club.

As SAF said I think we need to keep the door open because he's such a talented player but he once said he wanted to be like Giggs and Scholes etc, a legend at the club. No matter what happens he'll never be that now. But if he stays he will need to spill his guts out at a press conference and actually show some sympathy against the club and its fans.

But maybe this is just a plot to get rid of the Glazers as I speculated about.

[Pez_555]

Hopefully? Lots... so the Glazer scum leave sooner rather than later.




My 2 favourite United players of all time.


I think he already knows where he's going and has already gotten contact from that club, and I think United have also already received contact.

i still remember that goal like it was yesterday.

[Tutankhamun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etAwiDwZHQc

[Demiant]

i still remember that goal like it was yesterday.
Yeah, that was Cantona for you. Mark him out the game all you want, he's still going to get a goal.

[Tutankhamun]

A shame he retired so early :(

[Firefox]

Well when you don't have Bergkamp on your team guess you have to settle for Cantona.. :lol: Sorry for coming in the middle of the discussion but I just feel Bergkamp doesn't get enough credit from people who are not Arsenal fans.

I'm not taking away from Cantona though, he was a great player as well. I've always been disgruntled at how little talk Bergkamp gets when you talk about strikers in the 90's when he was really one of the best (in a class of his own).

[Demiant]

Well when you don't have Bergkamp on your team guess you have to settle for Cantona.. :lol: Sorry for coming in the middle of the discussion but I just feel Bergkamp doesn't get enough credit from people who are not Arsenal fans.

I'm not taking away from Cantona though, he was a great player as well. I've always been disgruntled at how little talk Bergkamp gets when you talk about strikers in the 90's when he was really one of the best (in a class of his own).
Bergkamp is my favourite Arsenal player of all time (ahead of Henry and I'm French), his quality was undeniable but I wouldn't say he was better than Cantona. I also wouldn't say Cantona was better either. They were each their own player, both with loads of quality, both able to win games single-handedly. Just personal preference, United fans will prefer Cantona and Arsenal fans will prefer Bergkamp.

P.S. Hearing there's gonna be a press conference from Wayne later on, wonder what he'll have to say and if he'll actually state his reasons for wanting out. My wish is that he states outright he wants out because the Glazers aren't going to give us money anytime soon to rebuild a side like the one we had 3 years ago. That should get even more fans against the Glazers and put their backs against the wall.

[Shibby]

Liverpool's the last club in the world he'd join. He absolutely hates them. There's a chance he'll go to Man City, but there's absolutely no chance of him going to Liverpool... not even to spite someone.

agreed.

but everyone else *cough*tut*cough* should also stop mentioning Torres because he's in the same boat. it's hypocritical to say Rooney will never go to Pool and then go and say they should get Torres. Even if he was willing to go, Liverpool wouldn't accept a bid from United for him unless they maybe doubled their valuation, and the Glazers wouldn't give you the money to meet the standard valuation. But it's simple enough to say he'll never play for Real or United, so drop it. Who gives a **** what the media are saying, England has the worst gossip media in the world. Apparently Torres should be playing for Chelsea and Man City right now because they were 100% certain on both transfers.

[Tutankhamun]

Hey - don't shot the messenger I'm just reporting what I'm hearing.

[Pez_555]

Bergkamp is my favourite Arsenal player of all time (ahead of Henry and I'm French), his quality was undeniable but I wouldn't say he was better than Cantona. I also wouldn't say Cantona was better either. They were each their own player, both with loads of quality, both able to win games single-handedly. Just personal preference, United fans will prefer Cantona and Arsenal fans will prefer Bergkamp.

P.S. Hearing there's gonna be a press conference from Wayne later on, wonder what he'll have to say and if he'll actually state his reasons for wanting out. My wish is that he states outright he wants out because the Glazers aren't going to give us money anytime soon to rebuild a side like the one we had 3 years ago. That should get even more fans against the Glazers and put their backs against the wall.

well said, and i agree.

as a neutral, personally i preferred Cantona, he was just brilliant to watch.