The Manchester United Thread

[santinomarella]

There would be outrage by Arsenal fans like there is outrage with Manchester United fans right now.. that is obvious.

Gerrard made a horrible intentional tackle trying to injure a player the first time we met this season.. did it get coverage? No.

Join the club, many fans are outraged by many events but I don't care about the fact that the media did not cover the tackle. It does annoy me though.

That's why it's annoying for United fans though. The next time Rooney does something even remotely controversial everyone will act like he has killed someone.

[smiggy]

They make more of it when Man United are involved like the Rooney incident compared to the Toure incident. It's cause there higher profile and you'll get more exposure, people reading it.

It's just like when Man U play Liverpool compared to say Birmingham vs Aston Villa, they write more and you hear more about the Man U v Liverpool game before and after the game.

The toure incident isn't really much of a big deal though so im not really sure where you're going with that.

United are challenging for a title, what are B'ham and Villa challenging for?

[Tutankhamun]

He elbowed a player in the face on purpose off the ball and didn't get punished accordingly, how is that not a reason to write about it?

I'm not saying they shouldn't have written about it, I'm saying they wrote too much about it and very little was objective journalism. It was a witch hunt.


Right there. Thats the difference. 'When they get the chance'.

They write bad stuff about City for writing it sake. United are not hard done by any stretch of the imagination.

I disagree, United, with good play and good behavior, seldom gives them the chance but when they get even a small incident to write about, oh boy do they ever write.

I think City get's it easy, all you ever here is "City with all star players may/will soon take over United" even though you have not finished before us in the league since the club was bought.


See now you are relating Kolo's incidents and theoretically talking about what would happen if a United player had done the same.. what is the point of all this? How do you know if Vidic was in the same position that it would be different? You wouldn't think that people would look at Vidic as a good honest person as well? really?

History; Look at the Rio incident in 03.

[manutdfan]

The toure incident isn't really much of a big deal though so im not really sure where you're going with that.

United are challenging for a title, what are B'ham and Villa challenging for?

That's what i'm saying United are high profile so when one of our players does something it's more high profile so covered more, also they like to bring big clubs and people down.

The media love nothing more than building people up then bringing them down.

[Surebrec]

You know what they say, BBC = British Brainwashing Corporation.

really?? who says that???

I have never heard anyone say that about the BBC, they are an internationally respected broadcasting corporation. I'm assuming by "they", you actually mean "you"?


What?

EDIT: What I really would like is for you to troll somewhere else.

seriously kid, give the troll motif a rest, you really can't comment on who is/is not trolling, you are hardly whiter than white yourself in that aspect. try not being a hypocrite for a change, you might like it.

[Tutankhamun]

That's what i'm saying United are high profile so when one of our players does something it's more high profile so covered more, also they like to bring big clubs and people down.

The media love nothing more than building people up then bringing them down.

Indeed, this is very much the case in England. Look no further than Wayne Rooney press coverage pre World Cup after World Cup. After the WC the media did everything they could to bring him down yes he had a poor WC but that's no reason to execute him which is what they wanted. This is why England never wins anything.

[manutdfan]

Did Fergie speak to MUTV after the game?

[santinomarella]

@Surebrec I have to ask, not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but are you obsessed with Tut? Do you know him in real life? all your comments are directed at him. What's the deal?

[manutdfan]

@Surebrec I have to ask, not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but are you obsessed with Tut? Do you know him in real life? all your comments are directed at him. What's the deal?

Tut might have a stalker...

Watch out Tut lol!

[smiggy]

That's what i'm saying United are high profile so when one of our players does something it's more high profile so covered more, also they like to bring big clubs and people down.


They're writing about it because it a disgusting incident that wasn't dealt with not because you so 'high profile'.

[manutdfan]

They're writing about it because it a disgusting incident that wasn't dealt with not because you so 'high profile'.

The Carragher tackle was digusting doubt it will be covered as much though.

[smiggy]

The Carragher tackle was digusting doubt it will be covered as much as though.

It wasn't disgusting, just a bad decision on his part. It's not like the ball was up the other end of the pitch.

[manutdfan]

It wasn't disgusting, just a bad decision on his part. It's not like the ball was up the other end of the pitch.

It was digusting he set out to do the lad.

[Tutankhamun]

really?? who says that???

I have never heard anyone say that about the BBC, they are an internationally respected broadcasting corporation. I'm assuming by "they", you actually mean "you"?

It's actually a well know play of words in circles around alternative press and media. Many alternative researchers also like to use the phrase. You can Google it to find some examples.


seriously kid, give the troll motif a rest, you really can't comment on who is/is not trolling, you are hardly whiter than white yourself in that aspect. try not being a hypocrite for a change, you might like it.

I disagree with that assessment but I respect your right to have that opinion.


Did Fergie speak to MUTV after the game?

Nope, he boycotted all media and ordered the players to do the same even MUTV!


@Surebrec I have to ask, not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but are you obsessed with Tut? Do you know him in real life? all your comments are directed at him. What's the deal?

“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.” - Oscar Wilde


Tut might have a stalker...

Watch out Tut lol!

Bring it on, I did not grow up in a nice neighborhood I know how to throw a punch if I have to ;)


They're writing about it because it a disgusting incident that wasn't dealt with not because you so 'high profile'.

Objective journalism would have been to say "The FA is of the belief they can't punish Rooney under the current set of rules" instead most of the media wrote all kind of ****.

[manutdfan]

I thought the Swedes were pretty passive people lol.

[Tutankhamun]

I thought the Swedes were pretty passive people lol.

I am anyway!

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Really think we need to buy a world class midfielder in the summer, we get overrun in midfield so easily. I still standby that we need to do EVERYTHING to get Modric I don't care what it costs.

[Surebrec]

@Surebrec I have to ask, not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but are you obsessed with Tut? Do you know him in real life? all your comments are directed at him. What's the deal?

not at all obsessed, if you read through this thread, you'll find that I don't quote him anymore than anyone else who finds his blinkered fanboyism totally mind boggling. he's totally incapable of viewing anything manchester united (and moreso) rooney related impartially.

I read a lot of posts in here from the rest of the united supporters, you included and they are for the most part informed, and fair.

tut on the other hand, will bend over to the point of breaking his spine to refuse to accept any blame or criticism. also, he IS a hypocrite.


Tut might have a stalker...

Watch out Tut lol!

I'm sure he has, and I'm sure your comment will fuel his whole conspiracy theory that I hate him, he's made it clear in the past that that is his belief.

I don't hate him however, I don't know him. you can't hate someone you don't know, well almost. he has expressed his hatred for me almost as many times as he has claimed I hate him, so it's not big deal.

as for me stalking him? well, I've got better things to do with my time.

bottom line is that I think he's a totally bizarre individual who is incapable of offering a balanced well thought out view.

[Tutankhamun]

not at all obsessed, if you read through this thread, you'll find that I don't quote him anymore than anyone else who finds his blinkered fanboyism totally mind boggling. he's totally incapable of viewing anything manchester united (and moreso) rooney related impartially.

I read a lot of posts in here from the rest of the united supporters, you included and they are for the most part informed, and fair.

tut on the other hand, will bend over to the point of breaking his spine to refuse to accept any blame or criticism. also, he IS a hypocrite.



I'm sure he has, and I'm sure your comment will fuel his whole conspiracy theory that I hate him, he's made it clear in the past that that is his belief.

I don't hate him however, I don't know him. you can't hate someone you don't know, well almost. he has expressed his hatred for me almost as many times as he has claimed I hate him, so it's not big deal.

as for me stalking him? well, I've got better things to do with my time.

bottom line is that I think he's a totally bizarre individual who is incapable of offering a balanced well thought out view.

I got to say, you've given me a lot of thought! Thanks :)

[manutdfan]

Ah so Tut and suebo are previous....

[Firefox]

Well Surebrec.. good luck in your next Premier Leauge match since we all know who you are facing. I'm rooting for you in that one. :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

Ah so Tut and suebo are previous....

The guy flipped out when I said I like Ferrari in the F1 thread never been the same since that, but that's okay he thinks a lot about me I really don't care about him.

[manutdfan]

I am anyway!

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Really think we need to buy a world class midfielder in the summer, we get overrun in midfield so easily. I still standby that we need to do EVERYTHING to get Modric I don't care what it costs.

Yep Modric played well today against Wolves, yeah we need to go all out for him.

[Firefox]

Tutankhamun as usual.. burning down bridges between other members. :lol:

[Surebrec]

I got to say, you've given me a lot of thought! Thanks :)

no more than you give me


Well Surebrec.. good luck in your next Premier Leauge match since we all know who you are facing. I'm rooting for you in that one. :lol:

thanks.

not expecting a win though in all honesty. I don't build myself up, so no one else can knock me down. if we take a point, or anything more, I'll be happy, if not, I'm still happy because it was no more than I expected in the first place. we are all but assured of premiership status for next year now, and in all reality, too far behind spurs to do anything about it, so win or loss at this time against united, no big deal.

[manutdfan]

Arteta would of been good if we could of got him for a decent price.

[Tutankhamun]

Yep Modric played well today against Wolves, yeah we need to go all out for him.

I don't see another option, I can't think of any other player of that quality with proven ability to play in the PL.


Tutankhamun as usual.. burning down bridges between other members. :lol:

What does that mean? I just post what I want, if someone don't like it that theirs problem if they ban me for it that's fine I don't really care either way.

[Firefox]

It means exactly what you just said... also Modric won't be going anywhere anytime soon unless you pay about 60 million I figure.

[Surebrec]

The guy flipped out when I said I like Ferrari in the F1 thread never been the same since that, but that's okay he thinks a lot about me I really don't care about him.

I don't flip out kid, you are the "flip out" artiste on these forums, if my memory serves me correctly, it was you that threw your rattle out of the pram when alonso was (correctly) punished for cutting a corner at silverstone, you threw a major ***** fit at that and claimed ferrari were always mistreated and victimizsed(almost a mirror of how you always say the same about united to be honest (sound familiar????))

[smiggy]

I don't flip out kid, you are the "flip out" artiste on these forums, if my memory serves me correctly, it was you that threw your rattle out of the pram when alonso was (correctly) punished for cutting a corner at silverstone, you threw a major ***** fit at that and claimed ferrari were always mistreated and victimizsed(almost a mirror of how you always say the same about united to be honest (sound familiar????))

Was just about to say.

[Tutankhamun]

It means exactly what you just said...

In that case I wish more people was like me, I'm not here to make friends. If people like me that's cool I appreciate that. I certainly like a few members here a lot. If people don't like me, they don't.



I don't flip out kid, you are the "flip out" artiste on these forums, if my memory serves me correctly, it was you that threw your rattle out of the pram when alonso was (correctly) punished for cutting a corner at silverstone, you threw a major ***** fit at that and claimed ferrari were always mistreated and victimizsed(almost a mirror of how you always say the same about united to be honest (sound familiar????))

Nope wasn't me, I did not watch the race at Silverstone this year from what I remember. All I said is that I think the notion that the FIA threats Ferrari better than other teams is wrong.

[Firefox]

Surebrec there is no point, both of you won't let go of grudges easily this one won't be solved anytime soon.. come back in 6 months. Cool down you two this is just an internet grudge. :lol:

edit: Tut why are you in stealth mode? haha

[manutdfan]

It's only a forum not like were ever going to see each other. It's good to get on were certain people, but like real life people have different views and not everyone gets on with each other.

[Metal Warrior]

I don't see another option, I can't think of any other player of that quality with proven ability to play in the PL.


Why would we limit ourselves to players who're proven in the PL? There are other alternatives that wouldn't be so insanely expensive.

[StaticAge]

http://i.imgur.com/jx2NU.gif

[manutdfan]

Helps if they can already speak English and are used to the Premier League and settled in the Country.

[Firefox]

Well you already missed the two deals of a lifetime.. Gourcuff and Ozil.. those two were a bargain! I agree with Metal Warrior, no need to limit yourselves to the PL.

[Tutankhamun]

Why would we limit ourselves to players who're proven in the PL? There are other alternatives that wouldn't be so insanely expensive.

I think we need a player that can come in and command the midfield from day one, if we can find a cheaper and better option that'd be swell. I can't say I know of anyone though. I asked a few days back for examples that people thought would fit but did not get so many responses.

[manutdfan]

Hamsik maybe...

[Pez_555]

http://img.mobypicture.com/21de0927afce7863fedde73237ae7d0d_view.jpg

Ouch!

oh thats not that bad! i was expecting something worse.

my mate had a similar injury happen to him during a game after sliding over some glass on the pitch, not a single tear, he was laughing it off in A&E. pic:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i133/pez_555/n865685244_1660740_9194.jpg

Yes it was a bad challenge but christ dont start crying lol.

lots of talking points but at the end of the day, Liverpool won fairly. Utd just need to put this behind them and focus on the next game. I still reckon you will win the title.

Im looking forward to match of the day tonight.

[Tutankhamun]

Hamsik maybe...

That's a name being thrown around a lot, certainly an interesting player. Will be interesting to see how SAF feels, surely he know we have this problem and has known it long before anyone else so I'm assuming plans are forth growing.

[manutdfan]

That's a name being thrown around a lot, certainly an interesting player. Will be interesting to see how SAF feels, surely he know we have this problem and has known it long before anyone else so I'm assuming plans are forth growing.

De Rossi as well.

[Tutankhamun]

De Rossi as well.

Isn't he a pure Roman? Don't think he'll ever leave but you never know.

[Metal Warrior]

I think we need a player that can come in and command the midfield from day one, if we can find a cheaper and better option that'd be swell. I can't say I know of anyone though. I asked a few days back for examples that people thought would fit but did not get so many responses.

I mentioned Nuhri Sahin several months back and I still consider him a great option. He regularly runs the show in midfield in the Bundesliga, which has to count for something. He'd cost a lot less as Modric in any case, that's for sure.

[manutdfan]

Isn't he a pure Roman? Don't think he'll ever leave but you never know.

True he's been there 11 years he might want a change, chance to go for major titles. Not sure who else there is Deffour was the other guy we were looking at.

[Tutankhamun]

I mentioned Nuhri Sahin several months back and I still consider him a great option. He regularly runs the show in midfield in the Bundesliga, which has to count for something. He'd cost a lot less as Modric in any case, that's for sure.

Interesting, did a fast Google search and there seem to be some rumors around us and him. How do you think he would fit in for us if he came?


True he's been there 11 years he might want a change, chance to go for major titles. Not sure who else there is Deffour was the other guy we were looking at.

Yeah, SAF is apparently a huge fan of Defour so that will likely go down sooner or later.

[manutdfan]

What about Kroos or Muller from Bayern.

[Tutankhamun]

What about Kroos or Muller from Bayern.

Muller would be quite the signing, reckon he would be about as much as Modric though!

[manutdfan]

Muller would be quite the signing, reckon he would be about as much as Modric though!

Yeah Bayern would want a lot for him.

Marko Marin is another option.

[Firefox]

Who are the youngsters you guys are most excited about that you have in your system who haven't played much for the first team? (highest hopes)

[Tutankhamun]

I think Rodwell is coming for sure, don't see SAF letting him pass.

[Tutankhamun]

Who are the youngsters you guys are most excited about that you have in your system who haven't played much for the first team? (highest hopes)

Morrison
Pogba
Cleverly
De Leat
Petruttci
Tunnicliffe

All should have a decent chance of making it.

[manutdfan]

I think Rodwell is coming for sure, don't see SAF letting him pass.

Yeah I hope we can get him looks a quality player. Rated highly.

Think we need a left winger as well Jeremy Menez would be a great signing and shouldn't be too expensive.

[Firefox]

Any videos showing the skills of anyone of them that you think are "amazing"? (I really only know Cleverly well from that list)

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah I hope we can get him looks a quality player. Rated highly.

Think we need a left winger as well Jeremy Menez would be a great signing and shouldn't be too expensive.

Thought you wanted Bale?

[manutdfan]

Thought you wanted Bale?

Think he'll be the same as Modric will cost to much, there will be a **** load of clubs going for him the price will be pushed right up. I'd love it if we signed him though but not likely.

[Firefox]

You could try Ryo Miyaichi.. he's great and one to watch for!

But we have him. :lol:

[manutdfan]

I'd say we need 3 midfielders, left mid two central midfielders.

[StaticAge]

These last two pages have become a full on transfer circle jerk :lol:

[manutdfan]

Also not forgetting me need a new goalkeeper.

[Tutankhamun]

These last two pages have become a full on transfer circle jerk :lol:

Transfers are fun! :p


Also not forgetting me need a new goalkeeper.

De Gea? I think so. Or that german kid that cheers for us.

[manutdfan]

De Gea? I think so. Or that german kid that cheers for us.

De Gea is the guy I'd like us to buy.

Adler is the German keeper who likes Man United.

[Tutankhamun]

De Gea is the guy I'd like us to buy.

Adler is the German keeper who likes Man United.

Should be one hell of a summer anyway, either we buy a few players or we don't. If we do, a lot will be written about it. If we don't, fans will complain like no tomorrow.

[DangerousMali]

These last two pages have become a full on transfer circle jerk :lol:

only remedy of a horrible week :snicker

[Tutankhamun]

only remedy of a horrible week :snicker

I could talk about transfers all the time even when we're playing fine, I do love some transfer talk but I know the majority don't so I don't. When I get full access on Red Cafe I can talk transfers there :p

[StaticAge]

I could talk about transfers all the time even when we're playing fine, I do love some transfer talk but I know the majority don't so I don't. When I get full access on Red Cafe I can talk transfers there :p

Ah... a muppet in the making :p

Hopefully these two losses will end up a distant memory like the ones against Liverpool and Fulham in 2009.

[santinomarella]

Ah... a muppet in the making :p

Hopefully these two losses will end up a distant memory like the ones against Liverpool and Fulham in 2009.

They were the season we equalled their record so hopefully these 2 results will be the season we beat it! :)

[StaticAge]

They were the season we equalled their record so hopefully these 2 results will be the season we beat it! :)

Hopefully :)

I'd say our fixtures are a bit easier than Arsenal's now, so hopefully we do our job!

[Tutankhamun]

Pretty sure we can't drop a point from now on out, need to win them all.

[squirrelbo1]

Cleverly


this kid is different gravy

[StaticAge]

this kid is different gravy

Um... yeah that's exactly what I think :cool:

http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17428.gif

[Tutankhamun]

Forgot Welbeck, and to some extent, Macheda on that list even though Macheda has played a fair bit for United. Both of those will def make it.

[squirrelbo1]

Um... yeah that's exactly what I think :cool:

http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17428.gif

youve never heard the saying different gravy ? o fair enough. im saying hes going to be ****ing awesome


also watching motd. that nani thing gets more stupid ever time you see it.

[santinomarella]

So the decision to not talk to the media was made yesterday. That should shut all the media up as the ***** about Ferguson not talking to the media.

[Tutankhamun]

So the decision to not talk to the media was made yesterday. That should shut all the media up as the ***** about Ferguson not talking to the media.

It should but it won't.

[Pez_555]

also watching motd. that nani thing gets more stupid ever time you see it.

lol +1.

[StaticAge]

Heh... "could have been a red card". Nice one MOTD.

[santinomarella]

It should but it won't.

True, what was I thinking. :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

MOTD showed the WR elbow last week 6 times & disected it for 3 mins.The Caragher assault on Nani was shown once! **** off u BBC ****s!

@paultreble99 (https://twitter.com/paultreble99/status/44525559480467456)

[StaticAge]

I hope Rio is back soon :( Guess who's been out for our three defeats this season. Plus the difference in goals we concede when he's playing than when he isn't is ridiculous.

[dc89]

this kid is different gravy

Goes down too easy. Watched him with my own two eyes yesterday as i Went City v Wigan.

Fair enough if ferguson doesn't want to talk to the media but to ban his players is pathetic. I feel sorry for Giggs on his special day.

[Tutankhamun]

I'm sure the players stand behind the club and if they don't they know where the door is. They are, after all, employed by the club.

[dc89]

Seems over the top though.

Saf is power trippin'

I wonder what SAF thinks of Rio's twitter message?

[Tutankhamun]

I don't think he's power tripping, he can do what he wants. I don't think he thinks anything of it, Twitter isn't media despite what some would like you to believe.

[StaticAge]

@stevebartram1: Interviewed a few MUFC players this week, and it sounds like Antonio Valencia is looking very sharp in training. A timely return, methinks.

:mrgreen:

[dc89]

But he can't do what he wants. He has to abide by the ruled like every other manager does and he is contractually obliged to media duties. He has not helped himself with his battle against the FA. He will only have himself to blame when he is banned.

I was thinking about the game whilst driving to football tonight and In particular Nani. Yup he has suffered a bad injury and it should have been a red card but you know why he got so much stick over it?

Because Nani is the boy who cries Wolf. And when he is seriously hurt like today no one believes him. Maybe he won't dive and throw himself about as much anymore.

[Tutankhamun]

That contract is stupid, I hope they remove it everyone should have freewill if you don't want to talk to Sky you shouldn't have to. I, for one, salute SAF and his effort to stand up against the FA and their ego's.

About Nani, if that's how they referee they may as well just stop playing football.

[T0PGUN]

Breaking news on Sky Sports News... Nani has stopped crying :lol: :snicker

[dc89]

That contract is stupid, I hope they remove it everyone should have freewill if you don't want to talk to Sky you shouldn't have to. I, for one, salute SAF and his effort to stand up against the FA and their ego's.

About Nani, if that's how they referee they may as well just stop playing football.

Nope it's not stupid.

Fans deserve to hear the manager of the team they support. Sky pay hundreds of millions to broadcast football and that rule is t protect their investment. SAF is mental if he thinks he can now get off his ban. More fuel to the flame. But saying that, he is far too influential in English football.

[santinomarella]

For all we know maybe United were advised not to talk to the media until Ferguson's punishment is finalised. Since they decided not to talk yesterday then maybe the plan is to not make anything worse. Let everything calm down and speak at a later date. Last thing Sir Alex needed was to say something the FA don't like again today. Even with a win today Sir Alex would have not been pleased with the Carragher tackle.

[StaticAge]

People complain when he talks and gives his opinion, and then moan when he doesn't.

[Tutankhamun]

Nope it's not stupid.

Fans deserve to hear the manager of the team they support. Sky pay hundreds of millions to broadcast football and that rule is t protect their investment. SAF is mental if he thinks he can now get off his ban. More fuel to the flame. But saying that, he is far too influential in English football.

It is stupid, they buy the right to broadcast the games they don't buy the people involved. From now on out, all press should go via the website, MUTV and Twitter/Facebook. United don't need the regular media anyway.

As for SAF being to influential I suppose that's what everyone was saying when the FA repedtly tried to have him as England's manger...

[dc89]

Erm I think they do need the regular media...

[santinomarella]

You speak as if United have avoided the media all season, it has been 1 game! Ferguson's already in trouble for his comments after the Chelsea game, it would be stupid for him to risk saying something else stupid and make things worse, we don't need him to have a 3 or 4 game touchline ban.

[Tutankhamun]

Erm I think they do need the regular media...

They don't, when United has something to say millions of fans listen. Absolutely no reason to be dependent on the regular media. Do a blog on the website, a twitter, a Facebook, and a YouTube channel and they'll reach all fans without the regular media no problem.

[squirrelbo1]

It is stupid, they buy the right to broadcast the games they don't buy the people involved. From now on out, all press should go via the website, MUTV and Twitter/Facebook. United don't need the regular media anyway.

As for SAF being to influential I suppose that's what everyone was saying when the FA repedtly tried to have him as England's manger...

not true. sky buy the rights to premiership coverage, and as teams receive a large chunk of that money, you buy access to the players and the manager.

[DaveNI1979]

Sorry but has to be done....

Nani wept.

[Tutankhamun]

not true. sky buy the rights to premiership coverage, and as teams receive a large chunk of that money, you buy access to the players and the manager.

That's what's stupid about it.

[Jerry786]

3-1 Great result for the pool :)

[StaticAge]

It's great that Liverpool fans take the **** out of Nani for crying when their player planted their studs in his shin. Similar to the one he did on Rooney a few years ago when he needed stitches.


3-1 Great result for the pool :smile:

Yeah... it was quite a shock when Blackpool beat Tottenham.

[santinomarella]

Maybe we took the wrong approach with the Rooney elbow, we should be laughing at McCarthy for holding his head in pain.

[StaticAge]

Maybe we took the wrong approach with the Rooney elbow, we should be laughing at McCarthy for holding his head in pain.

Yep.

Well done Rooney! It was great to see him hold his head like that in shock and pain :lol: Although it is a bit of a shame that he didn't do it a bit harder to cause a gash... that would have made be really happy to see some blood.

[DaveNI1979]

He's a grown man ffs, that just looked so pathetic crying like. Suck it up and grow a pair nani, your a disgrace. He was fit enough to jump up from his rolling around to show ref the evidence, look ref look ref my legs opened up and then fall over like he'd been shot. Get him the gas and air lol , was embarrassing.

[Jerry786]

Rooney's conduct was a disgrace, That elbow could have had far more serious consequences

[StaticAge]

Yeah it's not like the adrenaline could have caused him to get up or anything.

Oh well, at least Liverpool fans got what they finally wanted;


I'm glad that we got Nani, I have been waiting a long time for us to hurt one of those Portuguese ponies United have. Hopefully he is out for good.

[Surebrec]

Yeah it's not like the adrenaline could have caused him to get up or anything.

Oh well, at least Liverpool fans got what they finally wanted;


I'm glad that we got Nani, I have been waiting a long time for us to hurt one of those Portuguese ponies United have. Hopefully he is out for good.



totally out of order, I completely agree, but no more so than these gems


Go on Rafael I want a Pool player going off on a stretcher before the game is over.


I can live with a red on the player that ends Carraghers career today.

[StaticAge]

Agreed, I don't like anything like that. Where are they from BTW?

[Surebrec]

it was posted in this very thread a few pages back.

[squirrelbo1]

That's what's stupid about it.
dont take the money then. its not stupid. the media makes them stars, so they should accept that the media will be there


Agreed, I don't like anything like that. Where are they from BTW?

here

I wont name and shame, but they were both said by the same poster

[StaticAge]

Ah yes, I just saw the first one. I guess I missed it because I wasn't on here during the match.

It's a shame when anyone says stuff like that :(

[squirrelbo1]

indeed it is

[Surebrec]

Ah yes, I just saw the first one. I guess I missed it because I wasn't on here during the match.

It's a shame when anyone says stuff like that :(

it is, to wish a potentially career ending & life changing injury on any player is about as low as you can sink, regardless of what team they support. as much as I dislike wigan and blackburn as teams (for the same reasons you probably dislike city and liverpool), I wouldn't direct any such remark at one of their players. it just oozes poor taste and utter childishness

[mudshark]

Again Rooney was completely anonymous, he has to go in the summer.

[Danny2304]

Great game yesterday well from my point of view anyway. :lol:

Carraghers challenge was bad, true it was a red and he got lucky. Maybe for the sheer fact of Nani getting up then running to the ref, THEN falling to the floor crying which made Dowd think 'yellow'.

Your team never even turned up, you came to Anfield without Vidic and Rio so Fergie should have strengthened the mid and defence up and maybe had 1 up front. Because most of the time we out numbered you in both areas.

Luis Suarez is such a good player.

Oh and that pic of 'Nani's injury' where it looks like he's been sliced with a machete is zoomed in so much. Here is his injury.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7383/r0e79.jpg

[mankind]

Great game yesterday well from my point of view anyway. :lol:

Carraghers challenge was bad, true it was a red and he got lucky. Maybe for the sheer fact of Nani getting up then running to the ref, THEN falling to the floor crying which made Dowd think 'yellow'.

Your team never even turned up, you came to Anfield without Vidic and Rio so Fergie should have strengthened the mid and defence up and maybe had 1 up front. Because most of the time we out numbered you in both areas.

Luis Suarez is such a good player.

Oh and that pic of 'Nani's injury' where it looks like he's been sliced with a machete is zoomed in so much. Here is his injury.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7383/r0e79.jpg

As I said earlier, congrats to liverpool. Now is this not proof that united dont get all the decisions? Side Show Bob should of been sent off for chelsea and Jamie Carragher and Maxi Rodriguez should of been sent off, anyone who thinks the refs give united support can go **** themselfs.

[dc89]

Goal say


"Golden Oldies need replacing as United draw to the end of a era"

Source. (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/03/07/2383061/manchester-uniteds-abysmal-anfield-display-shows-urgent-need-for-)

And Eurosport have it spot on about the silence:




There was nothing else said via official channels for the club's global fan base, thought to be some 333 million-strong (including 190m in Asia), who contributed to last year's £286.4m revenue...

United's silence was reportedly a pre-arranged move, but it has backfired on them. Rather than asserting their power by withholding the victorious words from the champions elect from a world waiting with bated breath, it makes them look extraordinarily bitter in defeat...


Source (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/316947/)

And in regards to Ref. I'd say no ref supports United but you deffineatley get the lion's share of controversial decisions go your way. Clattenberg has gave you a few this year. Then we have all the ones over history including this monstrosity:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8dOjeVC80

[mankind]

Goal say



Source. (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/03/07/2383061/manchester-uniteds-abysmal-anfield-display-shows-urgent-need-for-)

And Eurosport have it spot on about the silence:



Source (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/316947/)

And in regards to Ref. I'd say no ref supports United but you deffineatley get the lion's share of controversial decisions go your way. Clattenberg has gave you a few this year. Then we have all the ones over history including this monstrosity:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8dOjeVC80


It happens to all teams, united do not get the most decisions. I suggest you go worry about Man ****y as they were so lucky to win againts Wigan, how that Wigan player missed in the dying seconds is beyond me, Wigan was far the better team.

EDIT:

I agree about the oldies, Ryan Giggs was really crap again, can someone show the stats? I bet it shows him as the most united player to give the ball away againts liverpool. I know he still has something to give to united, but to start and finish in such big games is a mystery to me.

[manutdfan]

Yeah we can still win the league no doubt!

[Danny2304]

Yeah, it's yours to lose. No doubt Arsenal will bloody bottle it like usual :lol:

But it could come down to goal difference!

[dc89]

If only City beat Fulham last week it would then possibly become a 3 horse race again!

[manutdfan]

On the Nani crying incident it's a culture thing there not afraid to show there emotions, which it's a bad thing. They don't have the British stiff upper lip and all that.

[dc89]

Or maybe he just has a low pain threshold? That's perfectly reasonable, he is a United player but after all he is only human.

[Danny2304]

I've had worse playing rugby at the age of 15 and didn't cry. Little ******.

[manutdfan]

Reason he got up was to show the Referee that he had a big gash on his leg from the tackle so the ref knew how bad the challenge was.

[dc89]

I think we just see the gash. I think a lot of the pain may have been caused by the impact. It was a bad tackle.

[manutdfan]

Anyway let's not talk about the Nani incident cause it dilutes what was a disgusting challenge from Carragher which should of been a red card, which would of left Liverpool with ten men and we would of won that game.

[yourmumsface17]

Only read a couple pages but Liverpool fans seem to have been pretty decent so thanks for that :D ... good game and a good win for you well played. Felt United could have nicked a draw if it weren't for a silly spill by VDS and a Nani assist :( but that's football! You earn your luck. Just a shame a few things didn't go our way on the day.

Nani.. ouch that had to hurt jeez.

Annoying but we have to move on :D Come on United

[manutdfan]

Yeah onward and upwards...

[three3-times]

even if we win the league, we still need a major overhaul, we still need to rebuild.

[Pez_555]

Or maybe he just has a low pain threshold? That's perfectly reasonable, he is a United player but after all he is only human.

Could be, but i doubt it. I think it was just the emotion of the day that got to him. He had assissted Kuyt's second so was probably really down about that......tie that in with a bad challenge it may have just tipped him over the edge. I would be very surprised if it was the injury that caused the tears....

but hey im no psychologist so we can all assume lol.

[Metal Warrior]

even if we win the league, we still need a major overhaul, we still need to rebuild.

I wouldn't say a major overhaul. We need to improve the squad, but we've still got a good core.

[Demiant]

I wouldn't say a major overhaul. We need to improve the squad, but we've still got a good core.
I'm not generally one to overreact, but I do think we need a good 2-3 players in the summer. 2 first teamers atleast. Ideally, I'd like to see:

OUT: Gibson, Obertan, Owen, maybe Macheda cos I don't see him cutting it here.

IN: A starting GK, and 2 CMs... at the very least 1 CM. And maybe a winger cos bar Nani/Valencia/Park, we're low on them. But it shouldn't be the priority.

I do want us to give opportunites to some of our youngsters who have had great seasons for our reserves/u18s: Pogba, Tunnicliffe, Morrison, King mainly. So with that in mind, I'd be happy with just a GK and 2 CMs.

[Tutankhamun]

Pastore could be headed to United

Palermo midfielder Javier Pastore could be on his way to Old Trafford, according to reports in Argentina.

Pastore has been a revelation with Palermo, putting in some great performance for the Serie A outfit.

Now the player's agent is claiming to be in talks with Manchester United, according to Radio Event. The 21-year-old was linked with the English giants before joining Palermo too - and his performances in Italy seem to have reignited their interest.

But United are not the only club in the fray. The Argentine, who has scored 13 goals in 59 appearances for Palermo, has family in Juventus - another club interested in securing his services. He has stated that a move to Turin would be preferable to Real Madrid or Barcelona.

Another English club, Manchester City, reportedly made an enquiry for the midfielder and were told that the player was valued at €100 million - a sum that even they balked at.

Yet, the rumours surrounding Pastore refuse to go away - which is not surprising given how talented the man is.

For all the talented at their disposal, United lack an attacking midfielder who can split defences on a consistent basis.

Ryan Giggs comes closest to fitting the bill - but the veteran, despite being in sparkling form this season, is in the twilight of his career. His absence will leave a gaping hole in the centre of the park - one which Pastore could potentially fill.

ESPNStar.com (http://www.espnstar.com/football/serie-a/news/detail/item591439/Pastore-could-be-headed-to-United/)

[yourmumsface17]

The young players who have had poor seasons maybe need a loan next season. 2 CM's and a GK are vital and all we need. (Watch Fergie sign a full back and a striker in the summer lol). I remember he did that was it in the 06/07 season, VDS, Park and Carrick he signed and I was furious lol... look what happened.

Yeah hopefully there are only a few changes in the summer. I believe in this team :D

[dc89]

€100M Euros ROFL!

City are always looking to snatch the players you are interested in. Is it just coincidence? It came out the other day that Mancini is a big fan of Rodwell.

[manutdfan]

A lot of managers are big fans of Rodders quality young player, big future ahead of him.

[santinomarella]

That Pastore is an amazing player on FM11 :p

I agree with what Demiant and YMF have said regarding players we need, although I'm still interested to see what Lindegaard turns out like, but still will need a GK whether he turns out to be No. 1 or 2 we'll have to see.

But I still believe this current squad is good enough to win the league and hopefully either FA Cup or Champs League, been years since we have won the FA Cup!

Hopefully Arsenal beat Barca so they still have the Champs League to concentrate on. :p

[manutdfan]

It's plain to see we need midfielders and a keeper is a must, shame they can't persuade Edwin to stay which they have been trying to apparently.

Arsenal will lose to Barcelona on Tuesday so they won't have the Champions League to concentrate on then. Less games for them to play chance to rest players.

[santinomarella]

thank you for your support after my injure. i hope to be back really soon.

Recent tweet from Nani.

Disgusting the way people have responded to that injury, imagine if United fans had acted like this after the Rooney elbow.

[manutdfan]

Lets hope Nanis back for the Man U v Arsenal game on Saturday.

[yourmumsface17]

Lets hope Nanis back for the Man U v Arsenal game on Saturday.

Why do you do it dude? I am gonna go offline so I resist the temptation to tear you a new one!

I will see you fellow Man United fans later :D

[StaticAge]

Disgusting the way people have responded to that injury, imagine if United fans had acted like this after the Rooney elbow.

Yep. Pretty pathetic really.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/06/article-1363640-0D7E948D000005DC-154_634x591.jpg

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01265/62_gerro_13_280x39_1265784a.jpg

[Firefox]

Will the FA do anything? I don't think anyone is denying that it was a bad tackle but I agree that people are having a tendency of making fun of the incident based on the player even if they believe that it was a horrible tackle.



To such a logical suggestion, the timid, blinkered FA argues that if it starts getting involved retrospectively, referees will be even less likely to take decisive action during the 90 minutes, knowing the FA can tidy things up afterwards. Nonsense.

Hypocrisy runs through the FA’s stance. It does not want to impinge on referee’s decision-making yet lobbies avidly for goal-line technology, particularly in the wake of Frank Lampard’s shot against Germany in Bloemfontein.

The FA should be ensuring justice is done, that mistakes can be rectified. Nobody is advocating that results be changed, simply that catching culprits is important whether the match is on-going or concluded. Inconsistency riddles FA thoughts.

It pours money into a glossy Respect campaign and then sits idly by...

-Henry Winter

[Pez_555]

it really wasn't that bad of an injury people are making it out to be.....just a little gash on the leg. If you play sport you have to expect things like this.

[manutdfan]

Why do you do it dude? I am gonna go offline so I resist the temptation to tear you a new one!

I will see you fellow Man United fans later :D

What? Don't be silly you couldn't tear me a new one...

[Firefox]

it really wasn't that bad of an injury people are making it out to be.....just a little gash on the leg. If you play sport you have to expect things like this.

Injury wasn't bad but where the tackle was situated and the way it occurred people are questioning.

[yourmumsface17]

What? Don't be silly you couldn't tear me a new one...
You're a funny guy :D

[manutdfan]

You're a funny guy :D

Just I couldn't see it happening.

[Shibby]

Yep. Pretty pathetic really.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/06/article-1363640-0D7E948D000005DC-154_634x591.jpg

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01265/62_gerro_13_280x39_1265784a.jpg

can you really blame Gerrard for reacting like that? regardless of what happened between him and Carragher, Gerrard put his hand on Nani's shoulder and Nani reacts like that. I'd be waving my hand at him calling him a pussy too.

[manutdfan]

The papers are angry at United not speaking to them, so it's working serves the papers right!

[yourmumsface17]

I am sick of the F'n papers! I love the fact the FA charge Fergie for his comments but earlier in the season Tony Pulis had a right go at Atkinson and said something like "some refs should be...

[manutdfan]

Yeah the silence is a good thing, there has been a witch hunt against Ferguson so he's right to have a media blackout.

The papers are so bitter about it in todays Mirror they are saying that Ferguson called the media blackout cause they lost against Liverpool and how this is the weakest Premier League for a long time. That United have a poor squad and there lucky to be top cause of other clubs have been poor. They are so bitter! the ****s...

I'm 100% behind the media blackout!

[Tutankhamun]

We need a young Roy Keane, a real bulldog that can command the middle. That's what's missing.

[Demiant]

We need a young Roy Keane, a real bulldog that can command the middle. That's what's missing.
Apparently Tunnicliffe is qute similiar to Keane. Most likely won't be anywhere near as good, but kinda hard to find that kind of DM nowadays and quite frankly, I don't want one. I don't want an overly-agressive DM, I want a smart DM that reads play fantastically and is just spot on with most of his tackles and interceptions. Like what Makelele used to be. Closest thing I can think to that atm is M'Vila.

[santinomarella]

Just to clarify, there is no media blackout. In fact, we've just been to Carington and interviewed Javier Hernandez. #mufc

From Nick Coppack.

[manutdfan]

Yeah I think players like Roy Keane are dying out of the game now, with high profile bad injuries. Players are getting protected a lot more now. We need a real leader someone vocal with a good footballing brain.

[LC77]

Mr Gill must be in denile.... or senile, I cannot make my mind up.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6801971,00.html

"A lot of the fans want to ensure that there's money to be spent on the team, that they come to a safe, modern stadia, that (United) play exciting, attractive football. And I think we've delivered on those accounts."

Only one of these is true, can you guess which?

If I was Fergie I'd buy myself one of those MP' gadgets.... a gimp outfit, and then come out and do my interview.

[Demiant]

Mr Gill must be in denile.... or senile, I cannot make my mind up.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6801971,00.html

"A lot of the fans want to ensure that there's money to be spent on the team, that they come to a safe, modern stadia, that (United) play exciting, attractive football. And I think we've delivered on those accounts."

Only one of these is true, can you guess which?

If I was Fergie I'd buy myself one of those MP' gadgets.... a gimp outfit, and then come out and do my interview.
Gill also said since the Glazers arrived, we spent more net than the 4-5 years preceding the Glazers, which is just false. From 2001 to 2005, net spend was 89.4m, from 2006 to 2010, it was 56m.

[manutdfan]

Glazers don't seem to want to spend that big!

[Tutankhamun]

If we don't win the league this year and we don't do anything about our weak points in the summer them I'm officially worried.

[manutdfan]

If we don't win the league this year and we don't do anything about our weak points in the summer them I'm officially worried.

Yeah it won't look good even if we do win the league we need to strengthen, cause other clubs will and have done already.

[Surebrec]

Glazers don't seem to want to spend that big!

maybe they don't have the money to spend afterall, did that thought never occur to you?

what happened to that £220 PIK loan repayment? that was spreading across the net like a bad rash when the news broke, then.... nothing.

[Tutankhamun]

There's no real point speculating if there's money or not, SAF and Gill has consistently stated there is money available and we have spent a fair bit on players like Hernandez and Bebe (although not a huge sum by any means).

The PIK re-payment is a mystery, no information on how it has been payed have been disclosed leading many to speculate that a potential buyer have paid it off as part of a deal to buy the club. But again, just speculation.

[manutdfan]

Man I'd love it if we got new owners and they gave money to go after Rodwell, Modric, Sanchez and Bale.

[Firefox]

Man I'd love it if we got new owners and they gave money to go after Rodwell, Modric, Sanchez and Bale.

You should understand your own club and SAF well enough to know that would not happen. You don't want to become like Manchester City.

[Tutankhamun]

Man I'd love it if we got new owners and they gave money to go after Rodwell, Modric, Sanchez and Bale.

I'd settle for Modric, Sanchez and another top GK. Rather have Rodwell than Bale though, Bale will be overpriced as hell.

[Firefox]

Rodwell really looks like the best and most likely to be honest. Would be insane if you went for Modric or Bale. I bet Redknapp wants 80 million for Bale. :lol:

[Tutankhamun]

We need to go for Modric or a similar type of player, no doubt about it. I reckon £35m would be enough for Modric and if it is I think we should take the deal.

[three3-times]

Yeah the silence is a good thing, there has been a witch hunt against Ferguson so he's right to have a media blackout.

The papers are so bitter about it in todays Mirror they are saying that Ferguson called the media blackout cause they lost against Liverpool and how this is the weakest Premier League for a long time. That United have a poor squad and there lucky to be top cause of other clubs have been poor. They are so bitter! the ****s...

I'm 100% behind the media blackout!

but this is true! we are ****ing awful away from home and out midfield is a goddamn joke!!!

[Tutankhamun]

but this is true? we are ****ing awful away from home and out midfield is a goddamn joke!!!

If we're ****ing awful I don't know what that means for the rest of the teams considering were leading the league.

[manutdfan]

Were not awful were just a few short in certain positions.

[Tutankhamun]

Were not awful were just a few short in certain positions.

I agree, we can win the league and more this season the problem is the depth when our regular players are injured or out of form we have very little to replace them with.

That's why I say the extension of Carrick for example, is good as long as we sign someone else to push for his spot.

[manutdfan]

I agree, we can win the league and more this season the problem is the depth when our regular players are injured or out of form we have very little to replace them with.

That's why I say the extension of Carrick for example, is good as long as we sign someone else to push for his spot.

Yeah we need more competition for places.

Maybe they have invested a lot of money in the youth academy's so they want them to come through that's why were not buying big.

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah we need more competition for places.

Maybe they have invested a lot of money in the youth academy's so they want them to come through that's why were not buying big.

Could very well be, the problem with youth is that you never know when they are ready. If we're struggling this season and our squad players isn't getting any younger what will happen next season when potentially Scholes is retiring? So I hope Cleverly and a few others are ready to play for us next season. I think Cleverly definitely is.

[manutdfan]

Yeah Cleverly and Wellbeck should be ready to play for us next season. Maybe Fergie will let Wellbeck stay at Sunderland for another season to do a deal with them for Henderson.

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah Cleverly and Wellbeck should be ready to play for us next season. Maybe Fergie will let Wellbeck stay at Sunderland for another season to do a deal with them for Henderson.

Maybe, don't know what the plan is for next season. It feels like we have a lot of strikers in our system.

[three3-times]

some of you lot are deluded, its been our home form and that the other teams suck that we are just about top,

if u cant see that our midfield, ALL of it is crap to average, then.....damn

[manutdfan]

Can't be crap with Nani in it.

[three3-times]

lol, nani is the only bright spot, but i mean more the CM......

[Tutankhamun]

Most def need to improve CM posistions but I don't think Carrick, Fletcher and Scholes are crap. We just can't rely on them all the time.

[santinomarella]

Scholes and the word crap do not go together, try Scholes and world class!

[manutdfan]

Yeah me, Tut and a few others have said many a time we need two central midfielders.

[Tutankhamun]

Scholes and the word crap do not go together, try Scholes and world class!

Which is what's worrying, what do we do if he retires or gets injured? Gibson?

[santinomarella]

Yeah me, Tut and a few others have said many a time we need two central midfielders.

EVERY United fan currently on earth have said we need a CM.



Which is what's worrying, what do we do if he retires or gets injured? Gibson?

I didn't say it wasn't worrying just pointing out that Scholes in no where near crap.

[manutdfan]

Which is what's worrying, what do we do if he retires or gets injured? Gibson?

Gibson isn't good enough we need to bring in a central midfielder and Gibson can partly fund that.

[Tutankhamun]

I, for one, want to play Barca in this CL. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[manutdfan]

I, for one, want to play Barca in this CL. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

I'd rather aviod them lol, they play football on a different planet from the rest. You should appreciate that line seeing that you think you've been abducted by aliens more times than Mulders sister lol...

[Tutankhamun]

I'd rather aviod them lol, they play football on a different planet from the rest. You should appreciate that line seeing that you think you've been abducted by aliens more times than Mulders sister lol...

We have a great shot beating them in a final over one game. Can do it over two games as well but that'd be harder.

Never been abducted, but I wouldn't mind in case anyone is listening out there.

[manutdfan]

Wonder if they'll be a massive witch hunt over the Roma players elbow in tonights Champions League game...

[Tutankhamun]

Wonder if they'll be a massive witch hunt over the Roma players elbow in tonights Champions League game...

Wasn't that De Rossi? Looked like a bulldog to me ;)

[manutdfan]

Wasn't that De Rossi? Looked like a bulldog to me ;)

Yeah I think it was. Elbows seem to be in at the moment.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah Barca would cut through our midfield like it wasn't there I am afraid.

We aren't as bad as your making out 3x I agree with manutdfan we are just a little short. Only a little.

[manutdfan]

Rodwell, Modric and a new Keeper and were sorted....

[Shibby]

You guys need a young Giggs and a young Scholes lol. The guys are world class but the more they play the more they show their age. They let Liverpool midfielders run wild, so you probably wouldn't want to see the massacre (I would, obviously lol) that Barca midfield would unleash on them haha.

[manutdfan]

Our midfield next season: Park, Valencia, Nani, Giggs, Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson, then add two new faces it would look strong.

[santinomarella]

Can't wait to see Valencia back! I have missed his smiling face :p

[manutdfan]

Yeah and Valencia get's to the byline and crosses, offers something different to Nani. Nani will have to get used to playing on the left.

[squirrelbo1]

Yeah Barca would cut through our midfield like it wasn't there I am afraid.

We aren't as bad as your making out 3x I agree with manutdfan we are just a little short. Only a little.

yeah, they would destroy most teams, and with all due respect to Liverpool their midfield doesn't have anything on barca's and they outplayed you.


and i agree as well, scholes is class, but is very much showing his age, gibson is good, but hes not world class, never will be i don't think. i really like the guy, but hes just not quite good enough, hes like everton standard. or the standard Chelsea were 8 years ago. and Fletcher is a very good player, him and somebody else would be a good pairing. I also rate carick but hes not that good imo. hes a good 3rd one. should you want to mix thinsg up, or somebody is injured etc.

i still dont rate nani, but i thinks that probably because I don't like him :snicker.

[manutdfan]

yeah, they would destroy most teams, and with all due respect to Liverpool their midfield doesn't have anything on barca's and they outplayed you.


and i agree as well, scholes is class, but is very much showing his age, gibson is good, but hes not world class, never will be i don't think. i really like the guy, but hes just not quite good enough, hes like everton standard. or the standard Chelsea were 8 years ago. and Fletcher is a very good player, him and somebody else would be a good pairing. I also rate carick but hes not that good imo. hes a good 3rd one. should you want to mix thinsg up, or somebody is injured etc.

i still dont rate nani, but i thinks that probably because I don't like him :snicker.

Nani's turning into a World Class player I think you yabba dabba ***** lol.

[yourmumsface17]

Real news...

rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Wow phil mitchell just got one heavy backhand off his chic....POW!! #eastenders

[manutdfan]

Looking good for Mourinho being our next manager there's talk about him leaving Madrid at the end of the season already.

[clean515]

Madrid really is a damm crazy house, at least give the man a year to build up something that can compete with Barca.:lol:

[manutdfan]

Mourinho as a manager hasn't lost a home game since 2002!!

[clean515]

Yeah it's crazy and I really do think that he is the best manager in the world, not being able to compete with Barca in his first season in la liga is not that terrible when he is building up a new team, took a bit for him to get Inter really good too.

I hope he wont go to united though as I don't like you. ;)

[manutdfan]

He feels he hasn't got the backing of the Madrid board on certain issues.

[squirrelbo1]

Mourinho as a manager hasn't lost a home game since 2002!!

*bows down*

hes basically god to me

[manutdfan]

*bows down*

hes basically god to me

Yep I'd love him to be the next Man United manager.

[LC77]

Yep I'd love him to be the next Man United manager.

I used to think this, but then Pep Guardiola showed up and I think Fergie would like him to be his eventual successor.

[manutdfan]

I used to think this, but then Pep Guardiola showed up and I think Fergie would like him to be his eventual successor.

I'd take either of them as our next manager...

[santinomarella]

Valencia might be playing for the reserves this afternoon! Just waiting on team news.

[Tutankhamun]

No lineup as yet, but I'm told Antonio Valencia is NOT in the Reserves squad to face Blackpool this afternoon. Team news within an hour.

@stevebartram1 (http://twitter.com/stevebartram1/status/45477707047387136)

[manutdfan]

I've applied for tickets for the Fulham game in April.

[Phaded]

If those Pastore rumors are true I would literally jizz, love to sign this guy

2 Central midfielders? love to see Javier Pastore and Jack Rodwell signed this summer, throw in Neuer for the retiring Van Der Sar and that's one hell of a perfect summer in my opinion.

Of course we are completely skint so we'll end up with value signings or Fergie's "no value in the market" excuse even though we are begging for freshening up especially in the centre of midfield, Gibson? why even waste everybody's time he won't make it at United he's just not good enough, a couple of assists vs Crawley doesn't count.

[yourmumsface17]

manutdreserves man united
Valencia should have played tonight but the pitch was deemed unfit. Nani is expected to be out between 10 days and 2 weeks

[manutdfan]

Yeah I'd probably shuffle one out to a pic of Pastore in a Man United top.

[RobJackson85]

2 Central midfielders? love to see Javier Pastore and Jack Rodwell signed this summer, throw in Neuer for the retiring Van Der Sar and that's one hell of a perfect summer in my opinion.

Word on the grape vine is that Rodwell is more suited as a center half, and to be honest we need some one like Scholes, some one young who has great vision and can literally dictate the pace of the midfield. I don't think Rodwell will fulfill this position. Never heard of the other person, so can't pass judgement on him.

Also, rumours are circulating that a deal taking Rodwell to Utd has already been done. I know it's not concrete, but, I've heard of a friend who has worked with a relative of Rodwells.

[yourmumsface17]

Word on the grape vine is that Rodwell is more suited as a center half, and to be honest we need some one like Scholes, some one young who has great vision and can literally dictate the pace of the midfield. I don't think Rodwell will fulfill this position. Never heard of the other person, so can't pass judgement on him.

Also, rumours are circulating that a deal taking Rodwell to Utd has already been done. I know it's not concrete, but, I've heard of a friend who has worked with a relative of Rodwells.

Firstly welcome to the ultimate United thread :D

Secondly I think I have heard that too (Rodwell being a better centre half). We 100% need a technically sound central midfielder. Someone who can dictate the game.

[Demiant]

Man I'd love it if we got new owners and they gave money to go after Rodwell, Modric, Sanchez and Bale.
I wouldn't. It's what I hate about football. All I want is to spend what we make a season (30m, 40m tops). If we get new owners and spend 80m every window, we're no different than City & Madrid, I'd be disgusted.


If those Pastore rumors are true I would literally jizz, love to sign this guy

2 Central midfielders? love to see Javier Pastore and Jack Rodwell signed this summer, throw in Neuer for the retiring Van Der Sar and that's one hell of a perfect summer in my opinion.

Of course we are completely skint so we'll end up with value signings or Fergie's "no value in the market" excuse even though we are begging for freshening up especially in the centre of midfield, Gibson? why even waste everybody's time he won't make it at United he's just not good enough, a couple of assists vs Crawley doesn't count.
Shame they're not true though. After 3 years of this, you'd think people would be used to us being linked to huge names and then ending up signing noone, but nope...

The past few transfer windows we haven't had the money to buy Ozil, VdV, Sneijder, etc... yet all of a sudden we'll have 30m to buy Pastore, 20m for Rodwell, and 20m for Neuer.


Word on the grape vine is that Rodwell is more suited as a center half, and to be honest we need some one like Scholes, some one young who has great vision and can literally dictate the pace of the midfield. I don't think Rodwell will fulfill this position. Never heard of the other person, so can't pass judgement on him.

Also, rumours are circulating that a deal taking Rodwell to Utd has already been done. I know it's not concrete, but, I've heard of a friend who has worked with a relative of Rodwells.
The famous "friend of a friend" eh? I'll go buy my new Utd shirt with Rodders on the back now :)

[RobJackson85]

The famous "friend of a friend" eh? I'll go buy my new Utd shirt with Rodders on the back now :)

I agree that the famous "friend of a friend" can sometimes lead people down the wrong path altogether. My friends information may well be complete tripe.

All I'll say to back up my input is that my friend and I both live in Rodwells home town and my friend knows relatives of Jack. As you say it could all be rubbish, but with Moyes and Ferguson being such close pals it's a feasible situation, sell a hot prospect on but keep him at the club for abit longer to gain more first team experience.

I agree with your comment about money and football these days. Money may buy you overnight success but it damn don't get you a glorious history that fans are proud off.


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[Demiant]

I agree that the famous "friend of a friend" can sometimes lead people down the wrong path altogether. My friends information may well be complete tripe.

All I'll say to back up my input is that my friend and I both live in Rodwells home town and my friend knows relatives of Jack. As you say it could all be rubbish, but with Moyes and Ferguson being such close pals it's a feasible situation, sell a hot prospect on but keep him at the club for abit longer to gain more first team experience.

I agree with your comment about money and football these days. Money may buy you overnight success but it damn don't get you a glorious history that fans are proud off.


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Definitely feasible about Rodders, but to those saying Rodders/Sanchez/Pastore/etc... it just won't happen, I don't care how optimistic you are, lol. Personally the only mid I see us getting is Jordan Henderson, and that's mainly because Bruce wants Welbeck, we want Henderson and have a handful of strikers already, ergo I think we'll do some kind of deal. I don't see us spending over 25m in the summer, and I'll be happy if we even spend that tbh.

[RobJackson85]

Definitely feasible about Rodders, but to those saying Rodders/Sanchez/Pastore/etc... it just won't happen, I don't care how optimistic you are, lol. Personally the only mid I see us getting is Jordan Henderson, and that's mainly because Bruce wants Welbeck, we want Henderson and have a handful of strikers already, ergo I think we'll do some kind of deal. I don't see us spending over 25m in the summer, and I'll be happy if we even spend that tbh.

This is probably the way things will work out. I think Fergie will 'rebuild' the squad with a young, fresh outlook. Any players brought in will be down to 'deals' as in players swapped with abit of cash to sweeten the deal. We have that much debt and the way the club is run I can't see them spending the millions like City, Madrid and Chelsea.

I for one would welcome a new start. Clear out some of the dead wood and bring in fresh faces on the cheap. Look what happened last time fresh young home grown (from the UK) talent appeared. They turned out to be some of the top players of this generation, infact, there that old now they could be classed as last generation!

I'm looking at Giggsy, Scholes and Gaz Neville.


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[Tutankhamun]

How many think Modric would be worth £30m? I do. Heck, I'd pay £35m.

[manutdfan]

I reckon Spurs would want about £45 million for Modric.

[Demiant]

How many think Modric would be worth £30m? I do. Heck, I'd pay £35m.
But that's what I'm saying. Modric is a great player, and I'd love to have him at United... but why do you suddenly think we'll spend 35m on a player? It really won't happen, I prefer just not getting my hopes up because I know we'll only end up buying players on the cheap in the summer.

[LC77]

I reckon Spurs would want about £45 million for Modric.

Another over priced player possibly coming to United from Spurs, why does that make me nervous? :lol:

For that kind of money United could get three or four players, but I've already got my t-shirt printed for the summer.... "NO VALUE IN THE MARKET!". :cool:

[Tutankhamun]

But that's what I'm saying. Modric is a great player, and I'd love to have him at United... but why do you suddenly think we'll spend 35m on a player? It really won't happen, I prefer just not getting my hopes up because I know we'll only end up buying players on the cheap in the summer.

Yeah you have a good point. The only thing that gives me hope is that SAF said he would need to spend big when Scholes and Giggs retired. And, as of the time of writing, Scholes isn't a Man United player next season. But you are probably right.

[yourmumsface17]

Just been to my law lecture and they said about a case when people on a message board spoke about Sheffield Wednesday and accused them of stealing money. Sheffield Wednesday saw this and got an injunction to find out who they were and sued them.

So don't criticse the Glazers too much :D lol

[santinomarella]

Fabregas out for the FA Cup game!

[yourmumsface17]

I get the feeling we might go out the FA cup now :( a bad vibe. I have an even worse feeling that this is City's year for the FA cup :( (hope I am wrong).

[Demiant]

Fabregas out for the FA Cup game!
And Nani's reportedly out a month, that'll seriously hurt our title chances. Valencia & Park are doubtful... our only fully fit wingers are Giggs & Obertan atm...

[santinomarella]

And Nani's reportedly out a month, that'll seriously hurt our title chances. Valencia & Park are doubtful... our only fully fit wingers are Giggs & Obertan atm...

I know that. Which makes Fabregas' absence even better news since we are weakened as well.

[dc89]

Obertan. Might as well just have Giggs really. You need a new winger in summer! A lot of clubs struggle with wingers and injuries.

I see Fergie has broke his silence.

[LC77]

I have an even worse feeling that this is City's year for the FA cup :( (hope I am wrong).

If that happens, I wonder if the lovely people at the council will allow City a parade of their half a billion pound trophy?

Should be an interesting game at the weekend, both teams humiliated in their last game..... could be like a game of old.

Just hide the pizza from the gooners!

[RobJackson85]

If that happens, I wonder if the lovely people at the council will allow City a parade of their half a billion pound trophy?

Should be an interesting game at the weekend, both teams humiliated in their last game..... could be like a game of old.

Just hide the pizza from the gooners!

No chance of that - for a game like this to happen we need some one similar to Roy Keane. The only two players that come close are Rooney and Scholes, but both are abit reckless and lose their heads abit too easy which lends them to tackling abit too hard and picking up cards. A patient player which some aggression is best suited for that scenario.

Also I don't think the rivalry is quite like it was in the past. Arsenal are a top 4 team, not title challengers like they used to be.

[StaticAge]

Manchester United target Ashley Young to hold out for Old Trafford summer switch

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/10/article-1365122-0C0D7386000005DC-997_468x340.jpg

The England forward will resist any attempt by Aston Villa to revive contract talks in a bid to clear the path to Old Trafford.

Young is a long-term target for Sir Alex Ferguson, who views the 25-year-old as a successor to Ryan Giggs and Sportsmail understands Young has already told a number of Villa team-mates that he wants to move to United.

He could cost as little as £10million in the summer after being valued at £25m at the start of the season.

His current deal expires at the end of the next campaign and discussions over fresh terms have hit the buffers. With Villa faced with losing Young for nothing next year, they could have little option but to sell in the summer.

The forward has held a first round of talks with Villa over a four-year deal worth in the region of £70,000 per week, but has since decided he has no intention of signing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1365122/Manchester-United-target-Ashley-Young-hold-Old-Trafford-summer-switch.html

[dc89]

POLICE threatened to take a Manchester United fan to court – for a car sticker that was rude about Man City.

Officers called at Sarah Webb-Lee’s home after Blues fans complained about the legend: “On the first day God created United – then f***ed up and created City.”

They told her to remove the offensive word or be reported for a public order offence.

Sarah, 39, of Stockport, said: “It was only a laugh.”




Lol! Multiple sources but I chose: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/03/10/police-warn-manchester-united-fan-over-anti-man-city-car-sticker-115875-22978468/

[yourmumsface17]

Nani, Valencia, Rio and Park won't play v Arsenal. But Sir Alex says he'll play his strongest available team #mufc

[Tutankhamun]

Hmm, who is he going to put on the wings. Giggs for sure, Obertan probably?

[yourmumsface17]

No idea! Fabio? Rooney? Evra? Obertan? Bebe?

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah all those would work I guess.

[manutdfan]

And SOLKSJAERS DOOONE IT!!!

[Tutankhamun]

Name on the trophy!

[santinomarella]

Get Fabio on the wings!

[manutdfan]

Yeah Tut I think Fabio should play on the wing, good idea!

[santinomarella]

And SOLKSJAERS DOOONE IT!!!

And SOLKSJAER HAS WON IT!!!

:)

[LC77]

Lol! Multiple sources but I chose: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/03/10/police-warn-manchester-united-fan-over-anti-man-city-car-sticker-115875-22978468/

Surprised they didn't pull her over and send in the riot squad.

Very sad state of affairs the police concern themselves with nowadays. If we are not careful in this country, the police will come onto the football pitch and caution players for using offensive language.

They should be out on the streets stopping the scousers crimes against fashion.

[manutdfan]

Big Jancker how are Manchester United still in THIS!!

[dc89]

Surprised they didn't pull her over and send in the riot squad.

Very sad state of affairs the police concern themselves with nowadays. If we are not careful in this country, the police will come onto the football pitch and caution players for using offensive language.

They should be out on the streets stopping the scousers crimes against fashion.

Yup. It's a bit like how a policeman who was obviously a United fan went to Carrington (City part) and went checking all the cars for tinted windows and illegally spaced license plates and then dished out fines etc. Club paid for it all though. Just a bit sad really.

[santinomarella]

VDS, Brown, Smalling, Vidic, Evra, Fabio, Rafael, O'Shea, Gibson, Rooney, Hernandez

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

PIG, Giggs, Scholes, Obertan, King, Valencia, Berbatov

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah not a very good lineup, hopefully we can win anyway. The injuries are bitting us in the butt, we need more depth as I have been saying for over a year. Will miss most, if not all, of the first half because of playoff ice-hockey but I'll get on the United game after the hockey game.

Let's hope for the best!

[santinomarella]

Carrick and Fletcher are no chance for Marseille as well.