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powerslave205
08-12-2009, 00:14
Step aside peasants.
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 00:15
Do one will ya. boring ****
Yeah , i feel like im in a school playground.
I feel sorry for all the other Mancs in here , having to put up with a **** like him.
Hes nothing but a skidmark on the underpants of society.
Hes that little bit of spit that you get in the back of your mouth when your thirsty.
( +10 for the first person to name both films that featured those 2 lines )
Im going to ignore him and continue posting as i normally would. Is that allowed since I support Liverpool?
Anyway, read this a few hours ago, its quite an interesting read and is centered heavily around united so i thought you guys might be interested.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/aug/11/football-tactics-4-4-2-making-comeback
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 00:18
Not allowed scouser.
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 00:19
Not allowed scouser.
:lol:
He lives in Grimsby.
There is no place in Liverpool called Grimsby.
Oh the mentality. :lol:
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 00:21
I know....I call all liverpool fans scousers, even in the US. It just sounds dirty.
Grow up , your giving Mancs a worser name than they already have.
Which will never be as bad as scousers. I don't mind other fans talking on here having a laugh but why sell off Mancs? Hes probably not even from Manchester or anywhere near.
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 01:34
Hes probably not even from Manchester or anywhere near.
:lol:
Yep , just another Glory Hunter then yes ?
Yous really do not help yourselfs in the slightest.
Paper Shredder
08-12-2009, 02:12
Hes probably not even from Manchester or anywhere near.
Be careful. People round here don't take kindly to that sentiment :snicker
santinomarella
08-12-2009, 03:27
:shock:
What an interesting read the recent posts have been :lol:
I guess that why Man United fans always get called glory hunters because of the type of comments from powerslave tonight :(
Its a shame when there are true Man United fans here, just wanting to talk football :(
Oh well thats life...
SEASON STARTS SOON!!!!! :DD
I can't wait!!!!
Danny2304
08-12-2009, 08:35
^^ me too it will be a good one but I work most weekends it's not fair haha
three3-times
08-12-2009, 08:43
TBH as much as i hate liverpool, the liverpool guys, cliche, danny, kopkiwi, stoney, danny, tommy etc are all sound guys!!!!
Tutankhamun
08-12-2009, 09:45
We should totally have a flame other fans sticky, so we can talk like normal people in the club threads.
Let's make a deal, we all play nice in this thread and the other clubs threads? We only tease Luverpool fans when united are playing them and vice versa.
Who's with me?
I'm pretty sure PowerSlave had a Chelsea badge as his avatar a few years back, and an Arsenal one before that, etc, etc.
In other news, check out what's on the official United site's front page... I found it kind of fail but some of you might like it.
Why is Fletcher still underrated?
Why don't opposition fans rate Darren Fletcher? It's a point that irks ManUtd.com's Ben Hibbs...
I had an argument recently with a Liverpool fan about Darren Fletcher. “He’s not a top, top player is he?” he said. “He’s OK, but he’s not as good as Mascherano.” I’m a big fan of Fletcher and that was all it took to set me off.
Even in the days when some United fans would grumble at the slightest error, I preached patience. The first time I saw him play was in 2002, I went to watch United’s Reserves for the first time against West Bromwich Albion at Old Trafford. This lanky, skinny kid in the middle of the park was absolutely everywhere, spraying passes all over the pitch like a seasoned pro stepped down to the lower levels. It all looked so easy. You could tell then he was a class above the rest.
Upon his integration into the first-team, however, Fletch suffered because, as a young, lightweight lad, he had to earn his stripes out on the wing. He was labelled by many in the media as the new Beckham, well wide of the mark and frankly a lazy cop-out description of his talents. Then, when he moved infield, there was the void left by Roy Keane (even before Keane left he was no longer the all-action, box-to-box maniac he was in his prime). It was a tough education. But Fletch took it – and the negative comments he often received – on the chin.
Fortunately, Sir Alex is a good judge of character and talent. In the last few years he’s honed his game, bulked up in the gym – which he admitted he always found difficult to do as a young player because he just didn’t see the results of his hard work – and he’s now approaching the peak of his career. But while United fans are, in the vast majority, converts to what Fletcher brings to the team – technical quality, clever use of the ball, energy, a calm head and, lately, a great deal of maturity – fans of other clubs seem preoccupied with out-dated judgements.
Fletcher was one of United’s best players at times last season, and I honestly believe that had he not suffered one or two injuries he wouldn’t have been far off in the running for Player of the Year. In the depths if disappointment after Rome, Sir Alex admitted Fletcher was a major loss due to suspension. Would he have halted Iniesta and Xavi? We'll never know, and Barcelona might well counter that their own absent men would have raised the level of their performance.
The point is, it’s recognition of how important Sir Alex believes his fellow Scot is to his team. And as everyone looks down the squad list for the men who’ll step to the fore in the ‘life after Ronaldo’ era, Fletcher is one that has to, and I believe will, rise to the challenge.
He’s Scotland’s captain, a deserved title for the influence he wields in national colours, where he’s always been one of the big fish, even from a very early age. Now I think his time has come at United. He was outstanding in the first half against Chelsea at Wembley, and whereas we’re expecting the likes of Nani, Anderson and Berbatov to an extent to raise their game, Fletcher need only avoid injuries and continue the excellent work he did last season.
We could have lost Fletch last summer when a number of clubs, Everton included, expressed an interest after a season in which he enjoyed only limited involvement in United's double success. Thankfully, he stayed and signed a new contract. Although, at either club, he’d have proved that deluded Liverpool fan wrong.
SOURCE: www.ManUtd.com
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 14:05
I'm pretty sure PowerSlave had a Chelsea badge as his avatar a few years back, and an Arsenal one before that, etc, etc.
LMFAO !
Hahahahahahahahahaha
:lol:
:lol:
Yep , just another Glory Hunter then yes ?
Yous really do not help yourselfs in the slightest.
I am from Manchester :-|
three3-times
08-12-2009, 14:30
Darren is a 1st teamer, no doubt about it. i was one who hated him a few season back. now i appricate what he does. Great player for us
I am from Manchester :-|
I think he meant PowerSlave, not sure though.
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 15:18
I think he meant PowerSlave, not sure though.
Yep.
Anyway , im out of this thread.
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 15:47
Ah yes....the good old GLORYHUNTER argument. No, I was United even when those two teams where winning the PL. But lets talk about the term itself...shall we??
Whats a gloryhunter? someone who decides to be a fan of a team that wins everything?? If that was the case, would be a Barca fan......but I'm not, I spit on them and stick my middle finger at them.
If someone is new to the PL or to football in general (like most white folks here in NY), is it wrong to pick a team from the top 4?? Of course, if you pick liverpool, you would NOT be called a gloryhunter because they haven't won the PL in 20 yrs, is that right?? Well, I have a close friend who last year became a liverpool fan, and its because of the beer sponsorship and their style of play....is he a gloryhunter?? what if he picked United???
What do you want future generations to do?? would you say to a 12yr old who is just getting into football: "NO!! you can't pick United as your team because they always win....you have to pick a losing team.....like Bolton or the scousers".
When scum in forums call other people gloryhunters it makes me laugh, what if the team they are a fan of miraculosly won something....like the scousers winning? Then all you scumsers would be gloryhunters, right??
Bottom line, in order NOT to be called a gloruhunter, you must back a loser team like LIVERPOOL.
Actually, the real bottom line is: It does not matter what little 17 yr olds call others online.
StaticAge
08-12-2009, 15:55
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1605/a5c94d80bc8990bfc077b03.gif
Cliché-Skating
08-12-2009, 15:59
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1605/a5c94d80bc8990bfc077b03.gif
Lmao.
Im actually suprised he can write more than 2 lines.
ahernandez2005
08-12-2009, 16:09
Rangers fan here. Just wanted to know how your new signings like Valencia and the French winger are getting on, what's his name again?
Aye and what about Owen, hows he getting on?
StaticAge
08-12-2009, 16:13
Rangers fan here. Just wanted to know how your new signings like Valencia and the French winger are getting on, what's his name again?
Aye and what about Owen, hows he getting on?
Valencia is looking very good so far. Very fast and not afraid to take anyone one by the looks of it. Also seems to have a good cross on him.
Obertan (the French winger), has an injury so we haven't seen him in action yet.
Owen's doing ok. Hopefully he can stay injury free :DD
TommyFewty
08-12-2009, 16:16
I read "you must back a loser team like Liverpool" then just LOL'ed to myself repeatedly. And you also wrote you spit on Barca fans? Just leave the thread please if you cant have a decent discussion about football unlike the rest of us, santino was right, people like you give Utd fans a bad name when the majority are alright.
ahernandez2005
08-12-2009, 16:20
Valencia is already proven quality in the Premiership, was a sensible signing for Fergie to make. You needed a replacement for Ronaldo and although Valencia is not as good, he may be the better team player.
Think that Obertan is quite a speedy direct winger as well, so plenty of chances should be created for Owen, Rooney and Berbatov.
How is Nani's injury? He has bags of ability but has just not been consistent enough.
StaticAge
08-12-2009, 16:25
How is Nani's injury? He has bags of ability but has just not been consistent enough.
Should be fine; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1205604/Manchester-United-boost--Nani-gives-injury-cold-shoulder-insist-Ill-fit-Birmingham.html
:DD
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 16:25
So, I should leave because you don't agree on my sentiments for scousers and barca fans?? its my choice.
TommyFewty
08-12-2009, 16:28
Did i say that? Where in my post did i say that? Your really not helping yourself here...i said if you cant have a decent discussion with us (which so far you havent shown) then theres really no point being here. Stuff like saying Scousers need a shower isnt exactly making you a beacon of knowledge and wisdom now is it?
ahernandez2005
08-12-2009, 16:32
Should be fine; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1205604/Manchester-United-boost--Nani-gives-injury-cold-shoulder-insist-Ill-fit-Birmingham.html
:DD
Good stuff, looking forward to the football season kicking off both up here and down south. :-)
StaticAge
08-12-2009, 16:35
Good stuff, looking forward to the football season kicking off both up here and down south. :-)
Yep, same here :) Should be a good one.
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 16:39
Beacon of knowledge.....in front of whom?? all of you here?? please, like I said...I stick my middle finger to baca fans and scousers. if you don't like it, go to your kitchen, grab a knife and stab yourself in the stomach.
three3-times
08-12-2009, 16:51
FFS, what the heck is going on in this thread man!!!???
Like i said, the liverpool guys we/i talk to (see above) cool. Powerslave, RELAX man!!
Cliche, im gonna add you on psn if thats ok???
Beacon of knowledge.....in front of whom?? all of you here?? please, like I said...I stick my middle finger to baca fans and scousers. if you don't like it, go to your kitchen, grab a knife and stab yourself in the stomach.
What's a baca fan? :confused:
Tutankhamun
08-12-2009, 18:05
ffs we can't have 3 pages of flaming fo it in PM, next person that argues/flames the rest of us should report, I will.
Paper Shredder
08-12-2009, 18:27
Whats a gloryhunter? someone who decides to be a fan of a team that wins everything??
Someone who has no connection to a team or city and randomly picks the team because they are winning...now, most times they will not admit to it due to the winning but when they admit to being a fan after seeing them on TV win something, etc....it really is not hard to see.
santinomarella
08-12-2009, 18:39
Can we get back to normality now? :)
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 23:48
ffs we can't have 3 pages of flaming fo it in PM, next person that argues/flames the rest of us should report, I will.
Don't be such a delicate flower ok?? Thats like going to the pricipal when someone picks on you during lunch.
powerslave205
08-12-2009, 23:51
Someone who has no connection to a team or city and randomly picks the team because they are winning...now, most times they will not admit to it due to the winning but when they admit to being a fan after seeing them on TV win something, etc....it really is not hard to see.
So, In order to be a fan, you must have a connection from the team?? Thats the dumbest pile of crap I have ever heard. Then football would not be an international game. All those teams that do the world tours would go play in empty stadiums because noone on the other side of the globe is a fan.
Paper Shredder
08-13-2009, 01:26
So, In order to be a fan, you must have a connection from the team??
Yup :)
TommyFewty
08-13-2009, 01:28
Powerslave how would it be empty? They kinda go to the stadium to play someone.....or do they just go to have a little walk around?
Cliché-Skating
08-13-2009, 02:44
I cant believe you guys are still arguing with him.
Give it a rest , seriously ! :roll:
StaticAge
08-13-2009, 03:19
Tosic got a couple of goals against South Africa yesterday
His goals are Serbia's 1st and 3rd (obviously)
YouTube - South Africa - Serbia 1:3, (08-12-09) GOALS!!! (Juzna Afrika - Srbija, 1:3)
three3-times
08-13-2009, 08:45
HES SO GODDAMN small, but size isnt everything is it messi?!
hope gets some chance at man utd for us
nice 3rd goal with his right foot aswell.
Meanwhile, The Sun follows up the Manchester Evening New's claim that Sir Alex is chasing Schalke goalkeeper Manuel Neuer. The tabloid claims the boss is trying to wrap up a £5million deal for the stopper before Bayern Munich increase their bid for the 23-year-old. ManUtd.com
Would like this to be true, because VDS is getting on a bit and Kuz isn't reliable. Even if Foster had a bad game against Chelsea, I still think he's goo enough to be 2nd choice but his proneness to injuries means he can't be relied on for first choice.
In other news, glad that Nani is fine. What a speedy recovery, eh?
Nani fine? Didn't he dislocate his shoulder? Surely at least a month out?
Cliché-Skating
08-13-2009, 12:28
Neuer is a class goalkeeper.
Nani fine? Didn't he dislocate his shoulder? Surely at least a month out?
He played for Portugal yesterday so nope. :D
He played for Portugal yesterday so nope. :D
:lol: Our news over here SUCKS
It's okay, you have Barney as your avatar so I forgive you.
It's okay, you have Barney as your avatar so I forgive you.
A lot of people do :snicker
StaticAge
08-13-2009, 13:53
HES SO GODDAMN small, but size isnt everything is it messi?!
hope gets some chance at man utd for us
nice 3rd goal with his right foot aswell.
I think he'll play quite a bit this season. He's looked good the times he's played in pre-season.
desolationw
08-13-2009, 13:55
:lol: Our news over here SUCKS
You are not alone. It took me a few google searches to actually find out who Portugal were playing yesterday, found the results here (http://goal.com/en/news/468/internationals/2009/08/12/1437117/liechtenstein-0-3-portugal-hugo-almeida-brace-helps-seleccao). He came on for the last 20mins.
For the opening game of the season we could be without Wes Brown, Gary Neville, Rafeal Da Silva, Johnny Evans and Nemanji Vidic :(
santinomarella
08-13-2009, 15:01
For the opening game of the season we could be without Wes Brown, Gary Neville, Rafeal Da Silva, Johnny Evans and Nemanji Vidic :(
Thats a lot of defensive problems, but thats why im glad we have the one and only John O'Shea! :DD
powerslave205
08-13-2009, 15:10
Ferdinand better get his head in the game, we don't want another blunder like the one yesterday for the 3 lions.
R3D D3V!L
08-13-2009, 15:12
Nah, Ferdinand didn't care about that match, it was just a friendly after all.
powerslave205
08-13-2009, 15:17
I don't think it matters who you play, yesterdays mistake was inexcusable. Did you see it?
I don't think it matters who you play, yesterdays mistake was inexcusable. Did you see it?
It was a blunder, but it wasn't THAT huge of a blunder. He thought the keeper was a bit higher up, and he didn't expect Kuyt (I think it was Kuyt) to burst forward to intercept it. Like R3D said, Rio didn't care much about the game and took it as a friendly and nothing more. I'd rather have him in the heart of my defence than any other Englishman. :D
three3-times
08-14-2009, 13:23
the class of 1999...made me well up a lil!!
YouTube - This Is The One - Manchester United Treble 99
Tutankhamun
08-14-2009, 14:14
the class of 1999...made me well up a lil!!
YouTube - This Is The One - Manchester United Treble 99 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKMGOEoeEWs)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKMG..)
Very nice!! Thanks for sharing!
And I have just one thing to say after that, bring Beckham back to where he belongs!!!
Very nice!! Thanks for sharing!
And I have just one thing to say after that, bring Beckham back to where he belongs!!!
i dont think old red face Fergie would want him would he ?
but anyway i still remember Beckhams halfway line goal . pure genius
Tutankhamun
08-14-2009, 18:37
i dont think old red face Fergie would want him would he ?
but anyway i still remember Beckhams halfway line goal . pure genius
Probably not, but one can hope.
I think he would be good here for us, but I'm sure he wants to play often to get a spot in England and I dont think he would get so many starts here.
TommyFewty
08-14-2009, 18:52
Really cant see the point of bringing him back. Would get the odd sub on and Carling cup game, would also stop the youth getting games like Tosic/Obertan. Would most likely command a big wage to play so little games too which wouldnt help your financial situation. Anyways...i want someone to make a signing, be it Fergie, Wenger, Guardiola or Rafa :( Gotten a tad boring in recent days and needs some big big news.
Tutankhamun
08-14-2009, 19:02
Really cant see the point of bringing him back. Would get the odd sub on and Carling cup game, would also stop the youth getting games like Tosic/Obertan. Would most likely command a big wage to play so little games too which wouldnt help your financial situation. Anyways...i want someone to make a signing, be it Fergie, Wenger, Guardiola or Rafa :( Gotten a tad boring in recent days and needs some big big news.
Hehe, your probably right!
As for the signings the PL start tomorrow so now we can finally watch some football again!
Dont think there will be any big signings until January tbh.
Tutankhamun
08-16-2009, 10:18
I know it's a double post but let's get talking about the game!
Starting 11, results, who will score what do you guys think?
Foster
O'Shea-Ferdinand-Evans-Evra
Valencia-Carrick-Fletcher-Nani
Rooney-Berbatov
I think we will win 3-0, goals by Rooney, Valencia and Owen as a sub.
three3-times
08-16-2009, 10:20
I think brown will start in place of evans?
Kuz might get the nod over foster?
Rest of your squad Tut, i agree with. You got sky sports yeah?!
Tutankhamun
08-16-2009, 10:29
I think brown will start in place of evans?
Kuz might get the nod over foster?
Rest of your squad Tut, i agree with. You got sky sports yeah?!
No, Sky Sports isn't available in Sweden but we have a channel called canal+ that's broadcast PL, I've got that one.
The cup games are broadcasted on a channel I don't have I usually watch them online (illegally)
Kuz/Foster
O'Shea Rio Brown Evra
Valencia Anderson Carrick Nani
Rooney
Berbatov
And Fergie might throw in a surprise, especially at RB (De Laet or Fabio?). Anyhoo, I hate predicting easy wins because they usually come back and bite me in the bum but I'll say 4-0 United (2 for Rooney, 1 for Berbs, and 1 for Valencia).
Foster
Fabio
Evans
O'Shea
Evra
Valencia
Fletcher
Scholes
Nani
Berbatov
Rooney
That's our lineup. No Rio, no Carrick... weird.
Hard not to see this being a one sided affair.
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 13:24
Rio's injured :(
Carrick not playing because Fergie trying other midfielders.
Tutankhamun
08-16-2009, 13:25
Rio's injured :(
Carrick not playing because Fergie trying other midfielders.
I wonder what that means, dont he think Carrick is good enough?
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 13:27
I wonder what that means, dont he think Carrick is good enough?
All SAF said was we have a lot of midfielders and just wants to give them a game and try them out.
O'Shea as captain?
Is that his first time? Surprising over Rooney and or Scholes.
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 13:34
O'Shea as captain?
Is that his first time? Surprising over Rooney and or Scholes.
I was shocked too.
But its nice to say Captain O'Shea!!! :DD
I was shocked too.
But its nice to say Captain O'Shea!!! :DD
Has a ring to it don't it.
Bloody 12:35am here :( Will watch the first half of this game, go to bed and then get BACK up at 3am for Liverpool.
The things I do for football aye :snicker
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 13:37
O'Shea as captain?
Is that his first time? Surprising over Rooney and or Scholes.
Scholes hates being captain lol he doesn't like the responsibility... I think i've read we've lost like all are games with him as captain lol...odd
and I dunno about Rooney he would have been my pick or maybe Fletcher!
Scholes hates being captain lol he doesn't like the responsibility... I think i've read we've lost like all are games with him as captain lol...odd
and I dunno about Rooney he would have been my pick or maybe Fletcher!
I do remember reading a few years back that Scholes doesn't like wearing the armband.
Pretty strange for a player to shun such a privilege.
Rooney would have been my pick too.
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 13:47
I was shocked too.
But its nice to say Captain O'Shea!!! :DD
Captain O'Shea??
Try Captain Fantastic:p:snicker
Brum look dangerous when they get into wide positions.
If Nani wants to replace Ronaldo, he has a hell of a lot to do. Because in the opening 26 minutes he has been bloody awful.
Cliché-Skating
08-16-2009, 14:06
:lol:
Noone will replace Ronaldo , so you can all forget about that.
GOOOOALLLLLLLLLLL hahahahahaha.
Been coming for the last 5-10 minutes to be honest.
Joe Hart has looked such a liability.
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 14:08
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOONEY!!!!!
Nice one-two with the post there lol
OOHH **** I thought that was going in.
So did Ben Foster.
**** and that one too :lol:
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 14:11
Well played Evra, thats why you put men on the post lol
Has many times has Evra cleared off the lines.
Seems like a regular thing for him.
TommyFewty
08-16-2009, 14:18
At least Nani's learnt how to fall over like Ronaldo :snicker Decent game so far, expected a better passing game in midfield but other than that its ok.
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 14:19
Has many times has Evra cleared off the lines.
Seems like a regular thing for him.
Nooooooo Fletcher lol
Shame he deserves a goal he has played really well in my opinion
Was a shocking free kick. Plonker.
Fletcher should have finished that. At 2-0 is game over.
Why is Fletcher still on the pitch? He's been abysmal.
Nooooooo Fletcher lol
Shame he deserves a goal he has played really well in my opinion
LMAO are you serious? He is a wooden one, he has give the ball away 4-5 times. Granted he has made a few passes but even I could do that.
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 14:33
LMAO are you serious? He is a wooden one, he has give the ball away 4-5 times. Granted he has made a few passes but even I could do that.
lmao wtf are you guys smoking, he's made a load of tackles in midfield and won the ball back countless times, and he has made anumber of FORWARD PASSES which is something you guys criticise all the time
I think i counted 2 times he gave the ball away off course your own anti Fletcher prejudice comes in
but each to their own
1-0 COME ON GUYS FINISH EM OFF
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 14:35
LMAO are you serious? He is a wooden one, he has give the ball away 4-5 times. Granted he has made a few passes but even I could do that.
That is why Fletcher will never win over the fans. When a players abilties are doubted, you notice there mistakes more.
If a player who you like makes a few mistakes in a game, you dont notice as much and dosent create a discussion.
But Fletcher makes one mistake and his haters are like "why is this piece of **** still playing for United"
A favoured player makes a mistake "Unlucky there lad"
TommyFewty
08-16-2009, 14:38
One mistake, hes played at least 4 misplaced passes. I was impressed when he won the ball off Carr but just give it right to Vignal and Birmingham went on the attack. He hasnt been that bad but hes hardly been a standout performer, could do with bringing a different midfielder on for Scholes/Fletcher, neither have really been on top of there game in terms of passing which is needed against this stubborn Birmingham team.
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 14:38
I think Berba slept with the refs wife...
the ref appears to hate him lol
Clean sheet plz United :D
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 14:41
One mistake, hes played at least 4 misplaced passes. I was impressed when he won the ball off Carr but just give it right to Vignal and Birmingham went on the attack. He hasnt been that bad but hes hardly been a standout performer, could do with bringing a different midfielder on for Scholes/Fletcher, neither have really been on top of there game in terms of passing which is needed against this stubborn Birmingham team.
Not saying he's been a standout player or an awful player.
But with Fletcher and probably Berbatov there errors are picked up on more by their haters than if a player like Rooney makes a mistake.
We are not playing all that good in this second half, birmingham are getting closer to a goal.
TommyFewty
08-16-2009, 15:09
WTF was Wes Brown doing to stop Benitez? Good save by Foster in the end and will do his confidence the world of good.
Clean sheet plz United :D
Just realized Ferdinand isn't playing.
Go Birmingham go!
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 15:21
WTF was Wes Brown doing to stop Benitez? Good save by Foster in the end and will do his confidence the world of good.
Yeh Brown was done like a kipper =(
But yeh great save and confidence booster for Foster
TommyFewty
08-16-2009, 15:24
Michael :O 9/10 times there in easily, lucky win in the end, not as sharp but id be happy with a win.
Played good first half and like the last few games second half we went down a few gears. At least thats a win for us :)
santinomarella
08-16-2009, 15:25
Well done - 3 points :DD
Wouldnt call it a lucky win, id say we done enough to win and coped with what ever Brum threw at us.
yourmumsface17
08-16-2009, 15:26
Michael :O 9/10 times there in easily, lucky win in the end, not as sharp but id be happy with a win.
Yeh maybe a bit of nerves cropping up for Owen ... I was tense for him lol
Yeh happy with the win all you can ask for in game 1 of the season :)
Tutankhamun
08-16-2009, 15:28
Yeh happy with the win all you can ask for in game 1 of the season :)
Yeah me to, looking forward to the rest of the season, this will be a good one!
Owen choked.
I hope he does well at United, i feel sorry for him considering all the injuries he's had in recent years.
powerslave205
08-17-2009, 14:45
Did you guys see the scousers game? Man, they looked confused out on the pitch.
R33C3reece
08-17-2009, 14:56
im a bcfc fan but it was a great game :)
good goal by rooney :D
Paper Shredder
08-18-2009, 01:29
Did you guys see the scousers game? Man, they looked confused out on the pitch.
This sounds a bit weird....but they played SO BAD (so lethargic, so out of it) that I suspect they will come back with a bit of a punch
They may not be a Title Contender this season but I doubt they fall anywhere near as much as some are predicting now.
I still see Liverpool as more of a threat than either Chelsea or Arsenal, tbh. Arsenal will do well in the first half of the season but then go downhill whereas Chelsea will just draw too many games against crap teams like Liverpool last year.
I still see Liverpool as more of a threat than either Chelsea or Arsenal, tbh. Arsenal will do well in the first half of the season but then go downhill whereas Chelsea will just draw too many games against crap teams like Liverpool last year.
Rafael Benitez has only £1.5million to spend.
Rafael Benitez has only £1.5million to spend.
Tbh, I'm a bit skeptic about what the Glazers said a few weeks back about how Fergie could spend the money he got from Ronny.
Either the Glazers were lying and Fergie actually has a crap budget to work with....
OR
Fergie's deluded enough to think we don't need another midfielder. :( I think he's losing the plot. :bang:
Tutankhamun
08-19-2009, 10:00
Tbh, I'm a bit skeptic about what the Glazers said a few weeks back about how Fergie could spend the money he got from Ronny.
Either the Glazers were lying and Fergie actually has a crap budget to work with....
OR
Fergie's deluded enough to think we don't need another midfielder. :( I think he's losing the plot. :bang:
The thing is you have to overpay to get good players this summer and SAF won't do that.
I think he has money to spend but he chooses carefully how to spend it, which I think is wise.
For example Chelsea are rumored to pay £50million for Aguero, he's a good player but that's overpaying.
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 13:35
Tbh, I'm a bit skeptic about what the Glazers said a few weeks back about how Fergie could spend the money he got from Ronny.
Either the Glazers were lying and Fergie actually has a crap budget to work with....
OR
Fergie's deluded enough to think we don't need another midfielder. :( I think he's losing the plot. :bang:
*sigh*
Dont you feel thats abit of an exageration?
Calling Sir Alex deluded and saying hes losing the plot?
Thats the kind of things you hear from fans when the team is going through a rough match and the managers ability is being brought into question.
One game in, one win, i dont care that it was only to a promoted team, but you gotta win them all and many Liverpool fans would say dropped points against Stoke last season cost them the league title.
Why dont we give this squad a chance first?
Tbh, I'm a bit skeptic about what the Glazers said a few weeks back about how Fergie could spend the money he got from Ronny.
Either the Glazers were lying and Fergie actually has a crap budget to work with....
OR
Fergie's deluded enough to think we don't need another midfielder. :( I think he's losing the plot. :bang:
We have Nani, Valencia, Obertan, Giggs and Park who can all play on the wings so we don't need a new one we just need one of those to become the new big thing.
StaticAge
08-19-2009, 14:03
*sigh*
Dont you feel thats abit of an exageration?
Calling Sir Alex deluded and saying hes losing the plot?
Thats the kind of things you hear from fans when the team is going through a rough match and the managers ability is being brought into question.
One game in, one win, i dont care that it was only to a promoted team, but you gotta win them all and many Liverpool fans would say dropped points against Stoke last season cost them the league title.
Why dont we give this squad a chance first?
Well said.
TommyFewty
08-19-2009, 14:06
He means a central midfielder i think. Carrick/Ando and Fletcher isnt really big enough for a top club, Hargreaves looks to be a problem and maybe should think of replacing him sooner than later, he wont be the same player he was when you won the CL and thats the level you need. Palacios/De Rossi/Toure, people in that mould to destroy attacks and put the work in.
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 14:23
He means a central midfielder i think. Carrick/Ando and Fletcher isnt really big enough for a top club, Hargreaves looks to be a problem and maybe should think of replacing him sooner than later, he wont be the same player he was when you won the CL and thats the level you need. Palacios/De Rossi/Toure, people in that mould to destroy attacks and put the work in.
We have the same central midfielders as we did last season, and we had a fantastic season!
Why fix something that isnt broken?
TommyFewty
08-19-2009, 20:38
Erm because against tough teams you got outplayed in the middle of the park? Only major honour was the prem, not exactly fantastic but good nonetheless. If your happy with having so few mids then so be it, on injury and your left with Scholes/Gibson :snicker Fergies seriously underrated Burnley so far, expect a hairdryer and a sub at HT if your a Utd player.
Tutankhamun
08-19-2009, 20:39
What's going on? We can't loose against Burnley ffs!!!
Cliché-Skating
08-19-2009, 20:42
What's going on? We can't loose against Burnley ffs!!!
Hmm , yes , yes you can.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 20:42
what an awful 1st half. awful awful awful
Danny2304
08-19-2009, 20:44
Jesus, Owen is getting worse
three3-times
08-19-2009, 20:50
frigging awful. i cant belive saf thinks selling ron and not getting a decent replacement is good business. our midfield is truly wack. if we lose this, we wont win the prem. signs were there against brum, couldnt score for toffee, no attacking threat = no Ron. Rooney, berba and owen wont get more than 10 goals each. we dont have a divine right to beat everyone, but burnley ffs?! where is the width? were is the attacking threat? Nani, Valencia? not park and giggs!
i'll change my tune if we score
Cliché-Skating
08-19-2009, 20:53
frigging awful. i cant belive saf thinks selling ron and not getting a decent replacement is good business. our midfield is truly wack. if we lose this, we wont win the prem. signs were there against brum, couldnt score for toffee, no attacking threat = no Ron. Rooney, berba and owen wont get more than 10 goals each. we dont have a divine right to beat everyone, but burnley ffs?! where is the width? were is the attacking threat? Nani, Valencia? not park and giggs!
i'll change my tune if we score
Wasnt it you who said something along the lines of " losing Ronaldo isnt the end of the world "
Hmm , probably wasnt , but i have definatley read it in here , and if any of you others say anything bad about SAF not replacing Ronaldo , your all officially hipocrites ! :snicker
elite gamer
08-19-2009, 20:56
I want Ronney to score coz he is my captain in fantasy football lawl :D dont support Man Utd though :O wud be pefect if he got a hat trick and they still lost which is highly doubtful... GL in your season tho
three3-times
08-19-2009, 20:59
Wasnt it you who said something along the lines of " losing Ronaldo isnt the end of the world "
Hmm , probably wasnt , but i have definatley read it in here , and if any of you others say anything bad about SAF not replacing Ronaldo , your all officially hipocrites ! :snicker
NEVER me, i NEVER said that, did i?? pretty sure i didnt.:confused: i was one of the ones who was upset at Ron going and not trying to replace his goals
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 21:11
Erm because against tough teams you got outplayed in the middle of the park? Only major honour was the prem, not exactly fantastic but good nonetheless. If your happy with having so few mids then so be it, on injury and your left with Scholes/Gibson :snicker Fergies seriously underrated Burnley so far, expect a hairdryer and a sub at HT if your a Utd player.
I dunno why you laugh if were left with Scholes or Gibson i have faith in both those players, if you dont rate them then obviously were gonna have different views.
So there was one major honour, but there were other trophies as well and a trophy is a trophy, im sure you would have been happy with any one of the trophies United won last season.
Its awful were losing, but its not over yet, if we still go on to lose then so be it, our chances of winning the league are not over if we lose.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 21:36
you gotta be kidding me.........................
im so angry. of course we would miss the best player in the world, BUT THIS!!!??
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 21:41
Oh dear oh dear :(
Well if you're going to lose, make it to a cracker.
Which that goal certainly was.
Danny2304
08-19-2009, 21:45
Burnley hey, hard team they beat us remember :lol:
Tutankhamun
08-19-2009, 21:46
Giggs and Valencia get the lowest grade the rest was to **** to rate, I'm ****ing angry!! SAF should tell them all to **** off.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 21:47
WE WILL MISS RONALDO, he wouldve decimated burnley on his own. thats one of the things he was good at, killing the smaller clubs.
i said we would miss him, anyone who says he wont is a fool
even against birmingham we looked limp upfront
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 21:48
Well if you're going to lose, make it to a cracker.
Which that goal certainly was.
It was indeed, they deserved to win and got the win, congratulations to them.
Its gonna be a tough game for any team to go to Turf Moor this season.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 21:48
great, now got the scousers on chucking it!
even though they lost away too, but to a good club
im so mad
Santino, your a good loser, im not. we were awful. im getting txs left right and center saying we were a 1 man team...........
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 21:51
WE WILL MISS RONALDO, he wouldve decimated burnley on his own. thats one of the things he was good at, killing the smaller clubs.
i said we would miss him, anyone who says he wont is a fool
even against birmingham we looked limp upfront
Of course were gonna miss him!!
But we need to forget about him, hes gone, move on!!
He will never be replaced but lets not make this season be "Oh Ronaldo would have scored that or We would have won with Ronaldo today"
Tutankhamun
08-19-2009, 21:53
Dissapointed in SAF to, wrong starting eleven, didnt see him on the sidelines once during the game, nobody had the energy to play a game.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 21:54
Of course were gonna miss him!!
But we need to forget about him, hes gone, move on!!
He will never be replaced but lets not make this season be "Oh Ronaldo would have scored that or We would have won with Ronaldo today"
yes hes gone, but we are gonna be so LIMP without him. rooney, berba, and owen are hardly prolific!
so what shall we make it then? the team was poor, the line up was poor??
edit....squad needs additional investment. end of. but there isnt anyone:(
great, now got the scousers on chucking it!
even though they lost away too, but to a good club
im so mad
Santino, your a good loser, im not. we were awful. im getting txs left right and center saying we were a 1 man team...........
I hope you aint referring to this thread about he scouser remarks.
Struggling to find a bad remark from us regarding the game.
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 21:59
yes hes gone, but we are gonna be so LIMP without him. rooney, berba, and owen are hardly prolific!
so what shall we make it then? the team was poor, the line up was poor??
I dont think the lineup was poor, that line up could beat any team in the league, it will be criticised though, but if Valencia started or Fletcher started then it would still be criticised.
Burnley believed that they could pull off an upset in their opening home game of the season against the champions and they did and deserved too.
But we were poor!!
We lost 1 world class player and a good player, who do we get in to replace them? valencia, owen. I have always stated we need a world class player but doesn't look like we will get one. We were crap againts birmingham in the second half and could not even beat burnley WTF? Not looking good my friends not looking good.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 22:03
I hope you aint referring to this thread about he scouser remarks.
Struggling to find a bad remark from us regarding the game.
No bad remarks, meant you lot where on here after we lost, that was all mate
calm down (lol!) get it??!!
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 22:05
10th in the league! Get In!! :snicker
No bad remarks, meant you lot where on here after we lost, that was all mate
calm down (lol!) get it??!!
Can have a couple of your cell phone numbers please? Simply so I can sends 'salt in the wound texts' after such losses :lol:
three3-times
08-19-2009, 22:09
I dont think the lineup was poor, that line up could beat any team in the league, it will be criticised though, but if Valencia started or Fletcher started then it would still be criticised.
Burnley believed that they could pull off an upset in their opening home game of the season against the champions and they did and deserved too.
But we were poor!!
fergie put out 4 central mids?? and as for park........hard worker, but no.
line up WAS poor. Why didnt Valenica start, where was Nani?
three3-times
08-19-2009, 22:12
Can have a couple of your cell phone numbers please? Simply so I can sends 'salt in the wound texts' after such losses :lol:
NO!!!!
i didnt mug u lot after u lost to spurs. but spurs imo are a good side
NO!!!!
i didnt mug u lot after u lost to spurs. but spurs imo are a good side
:lol:
Dude, it was a joke.
It would cost me far too much to text you all in the UK.
You don't need to mug us, we were complete rubbish ;)
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 22:14
fergie put out 4 central mids?? and as for park........hard worker, but no.
line up WAS poor. Why didnt Valenica start, where was Nani?
All the players that started were capable of beating Burnley, this was a mid week game so we had to expect changes as were playing at the weekend as well, seasons just started players still searching for fitness.
When i saw the team i said that team can beat Burnley, they didnt because they played awful, its easy to say now that other players should have started.
three3-times
08-19-2009, 22:16
:lol:
Dude, it was a joke.
It would cost me far too much to text you all in the UK.
You don't need to mug us, we were complete rubbish ;)
i was playing man, like i want random txs at weird times!!:)
u werent that bad against spurs, spurs are a good side. burnley are WACK! but beat us.............should man utd fans be worried that we scrapped past brum and lost to burnley?
Anyway, will still win the league!!!!!:snicker
three3-times
08-19-2009, 22:18
All the players that started were capable of beating Burnley, this was a mid week game so we had to expect changes as were playing at the weekend as well, seasons just started players still searching for fitness.
When i saw the team i said that team can beat Burnley, they didnt because they played awful, its easy to say now that other players should have started.
Of coure the team was MORE than capable of beating burnley, but we didnt. the team was SHOCKING, giggs was our best player BY far. Why was ando on the left wing, guys being wasted. hes an AMC, not a LW/DM!!
havent got an excuse for them, thats game we shouldnt be losing. oh well. it can only get better.............cant it?
love ur optimism by the way Sant!
santinomarella
08-19-2009, 22:19
i was playing man, like i want random txs at weird times!!:)
u werent that bad against spurs, spurs are a good side. burnley are WACK! but beat us.............should man utd fans be worried that we scrapped past brum and lost to burnley?
Anyway, will still win the league!!!!!:snicker
36 more scrappy 1-0 wins will most definatley win us the league, its too early to start getting very worried, we'll just have to see how we do against Wigan.
Paper Shredder
08-20-2009, 00:56
United looks like a club struggling to find that offensive spark. Ronaldo is missed quite a bit
Congrats to Burnley, they deserved their win. Their fans were simply outstanding, very supportive and there's nothing bad to say about them.
As for our team, I said it before the game and I'll say it again... Fergie is deluded if he thinks we don't need another midfielder. Or he's been restricted to buy another player buy the fookin' Glazers.
Were you at the game D?
Unfortunately nope. But since they weren't showing it on TV I had to fookin' stream it and the link I streamed from had commentators that'd speak like a word a minute so I mainly heard the fans.
One thing that bothered me though is they booed the crap outta Evra at the HT whistle, maybe they think he dived for the peno? Because I really don't think he did, if I'm honest.
Clear cut penalty.
Even as a die hard opposition fan I can say that was a stone cold penalty.
Danny2304
08-20-2009, 11:11
No as soon as I seen that it was a clear penalty Evra tried to jump over the keeper imo and the keeper caught him big style.
powerslave205
08-20-2009, 13:55
Berbatov was complete trash, he is gotta stop doing his useless flicks in the box and face the goal and shoot, learn from Van Nistelrooy. Owen was worth exactly what United paid for him. Giggs was the best player no doubt, I remember some moron saying that Giggs doesn't have it anymore, well, he still has it for sure. Rooney has to control his temper, that could have been a red card, and if it was we would have started Lazytov and Owen.....what a nightmare.
United looks like a club struggling to find that offensive spark. Ronaldo is missed quite a bit
Its the second game of the season. Every season we start bad.
three3-times
08-21-2009, 10:49
So now no rio for a month (confirmed) no VDS, no Ronaldo, No goals, no attacking threat......i dont think we will be winning anything this year.
We got some tough games while VDS and Rio are out........
Least vida is back for wigan
EDIT.....least liverpool have lost agger and alonso and havent really gotten stronger
So now no rio for a month (confirmed) no VDS, no Ronaldo, No goals, no attacking threat......i dont think we will be winning anything this year.
We got some tough games while VDS and Rio are out........
Least vida is back for wigan
EDIT.....least liverpool have lost agger and alonso and havent really gotten stronger
Because we've got no ronaldo we've got no goals? We still have Rooney, Berbatov and Owen. Saying that not that Berbatov's gona do much.
Paper Shredder
08-22-2009, 03:08
Its the second game of the season. Every season we start bad.
Not sure United will recover from this one
TommyFewty
08-22-2009, 03:38
Wouldnt count them out after two games. Probably go and put 3-4 past Wigan now. The lead Madrid had over Barca last year and look what happened. The lead Liverpool had over Man Utd last year and look what happened. Theres definitely goals in this Utd side, Fergies just gotta get it out of them which im sure he will.
yourmumsface17
08-22-2009, 11:43
Loving the negativity in this thread:-P
Will make things so much sweeter when United come back guns blazing :gta:
Loving the way are own fans completely slate are own players the second we lose a game ... you will be eating your words soon
SAF out? :rolleyes:
If we lose another game i'm sure people will be saying that
Not sure United will recover from this one
Why not? IF you gona comment s**t on here don't comment anything. We wasn't a one man team at all we were winning things before Ronaldo came.
santinomarella
08-22-2009, 14:33
Not sure United will recover from this one
Whats your logic behind saying United cant recover from ONE defeat?
Anyway heres the team today:
Foster
Neville/Evans/Vidic/Evra
Valencia/Fletcher/Scholes/Nani
Rooney/Berbatov
TommyFewty
08-22-2009, 14:57
Fletch/Scholes in midfield? This is why i would be worried as a Utd fan. Them two are not good enough to start and control games. Scholes was but now has lost it a bit and Fletch hasnt got the ability to make up for it where he gets away with it with Carrick. Might be enough to see off Wigan but if Fergie plays them repeatedly then i think youll struggle.
santinomarella
08-22-2009, 15:04
Fletch/Scholes in midfield? This is why i would be worried as a Utd fan. Them two are not good enough to start and control games. Scholes was but now has lost it a bit and Fletch hasnt got the ability to make up for it where he gets away with it with Carrick. Might be enough to see off Wigan but if Fergie plays them repeatedly then i think youll struggle.
I wouldnt say any of our central midfielders so far this season have proved they must start, so im not too worried with them started today, they have a chance and lets see how they get on.
Just like the rotation with Berbatov and Owen to see who deserves to partner Rooney.
Tutankhamun
08-22-2009, 15:20
Just moved to a new city today, dont have internet or cable tv yet :(
So could someone who's watching the game give updates on how we play?
Posting this from my iPhone btw (couldn't live without it)
2-0 up come on UNITED!!! rooney and berby
UPDATE!
3-0 :) Rooney
StaticAge
08-22-2009, 16:25
Rooooney! 3-0!
santinomarella
08-22-2009, 16:30
Loving this game, were playing really well!!
Great to see both Rooney and Berbs on the score sheet!!!
StaticAge
08-22-2009, 16:35
Gibson has such a good shot on him
santinomarella
08-22-2009, 16:45
Gibson has such a good shot on him
Yes!! he really does!
Quite under rated this guy, but hes a good solid midfielder with lots of potential!
OWEN!!!!!!!!!!!! 4-0!!!! :D:D:D
StaticAge
08-22-2009, 16:47
Owen :D
StaticAge
08-22-2009, 16:52
Nani 5-0 :D
TommyFewty
08-22-2009, 16:53
Good win, hairdryer treatment worked at HT. Owens was a very nice finish.
santinomarella
08-22-2009, 16:56
Top class football today!!! 5 goals away from home is always brilliant!!!
Defence was solid today, great so see Vidic back too!!
Fletcher was ace in midfielder, and Valencia great on the right made some nice runs and got an assist too!
Owen, Rooney and Berbatov on the score sheet is great to see!!! Nice freekick from Nani too :D:D:D
Very impressive 2nd half performance. Especially happy with the performance of our wingers & strikers. Our defence looked pretty solid as well with Vidic in there. Foster made a few vital interventions. Overall, good performance from the lads and they now just need to keep it up and beat Arsenal next week. :D
three3-times
08-22-2009, 17:31
Well...................that shut me up.
Bring on the Le Arse
Tutankhamun
08-22-2009, 19:02
How was Owen's goal? Skilled play or easy goal?
TommyFewty
08-22-2009, 19:04
Classy finish with his left in off the post. Kinda showed what he was gotten to do, putting away the chances.
StaticAge
08-22-2009, 19:12
How was Owen's goal? Skilled play or easy goal?
See for yourself ;)
http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/3255895
powerslave205
08-24-2009, 00:49
Berbatov actually impressed me yesterday.....that was a sweet goal and I actually cheered for him. Keep it up Bulgarian.
What you think of this? No chance? Likely? Would you want it to happen?
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson is reportedly readying a bid for Tottenham Hotspur's technically skilled midfielder Luca Modric, according to Metro, who further indicate that Michael Carrick will be added to the £10 million deal in order to sweeten the transfer pot.
The title holders have a contemporary history of admiring certain Spurs players, with both Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov having found their way to Old Trafford after lighting up White Hart Lane.
Carrick, a West Ham United academy product, has won three successive Premier League crowns under Ferguson, and also owns a Champions League winners medal.
Considering Spurs boss Harry Redknapp's recent confession that he is not averse to continuing the recruitment drive that has seen a number of former Lilywhite representatives return to north London, the audacious player-plus-cash swap is not too far-fetched. However, the Cockney coach is unlikely to do business on the this deal due to the high regard he has of Modric.
Carrick recently missed a penalty at Turf Moor during United's shock 1-0 loss to Burnley.
Cliché-Skating
08-24-2009, 11:29
Berbatov actually impressed me yesterday.....that was a sweet goal and I actually cheered for him. Keep it up Bulgarian.
Only sing when your winning.
You dont help yourself one bit , hating a player then when he scores like him. :lol:
ANYWAYS.
Modric would be a good signing for you , i mean , lets be honest here and not beat around the bush , your midfield is *****.
Sell Carrick? **** off. They can **** off. I wouldn't mind Modric but giving Carrick away? **** off.
Tutankhamun
08-24-2009, 11:54
No way SAF would dump Carrick, Carrick has been good for us and he should stay.
Look back to 2006. We were poor. We hadn't won much for 3 years. We only bought one player that Summer, Carrick. We then won three leagues in a row and a Champions League. Carrick is a key part of the team. There is no way we will let him go.
Cliché-Skating
08-24-2009, 11:58
Look back to 2006. We were poor. We hadn't won much for 3 years. We only bought one player that Summer, Carrick. We then won three leagues in a row and a Champions League. Carrick is a key part of the team. There is no way we will let him go.
More like Ronaldo gave you 91 goals :lol:
yourmumsface17
08-24-2009, 12:32
Only sing when your winning.
You dont help yourself one bit , hating a player then when he scores like him. :lol:
ANYWAYS.
Modric would be a good signing for you , i mean , lets be honest here and not beat around the bush , your midfield is *****.
Should I let someone else comment or do it myself?
Should I let someone else comment or do it myself?
I think we should just ignore it to be honest.
We sell one winger then all of a sudden our midfield is ****? It's laughable.
TommyFewty
08-24-2009, 13:13
Your midfield has never been your strongest point once Scholes has started ageing. Hargo/Carrick is probably your best but without Hargs its really nothing special, probably the worst out he top 4. Carrick with Ando/Fletch/Scholes just doesnt work. When Hargs there he gives Carrick the freedom to play and do what hes best at. When hes not there Carrick has to move back and isnt given the freedom because Ando/Fletch/Scholes wont play the holding role. Just cos you had the same players when you won stuff doesnt mean its cos of them, your immense defence and attackin fluidity won them, not your midfield.
Cliché-Skating
08-24-2009, 13:23
Your midfield has never been your strongest point once Scholes has started ageing. Hargo/Carrick is probably your best but without Hargs its really nothing special, probably the worst out he top 4. Carrick with Ando/Fletch/Scholes just doesnt work. When Hargs there he gives Carrick the freedom to play and do what hes best at. When hes not there Carrick has to move back and isnt given the freedom because Ando/Fletch/Scholes wont play the holding role. Just cos you had the same players when you won stuff doesnt mean its cos of them, your immense defence and attackin fluidity won them, not your midfield.
These are PSU Forums Manchester United fans you are talking to remember , where everything about Manchester United is perfect. Ronaldo gone , ITS ALRIGHT ! ... Tevez gone , NEVERMIND ! Replaced by some reject and a substandard Wigan player. BUT ITS OKAY ! We won 3 Championships in a row ! Losing Ronaldo doesnt matter , we wont miss his 90+ goals one single bit :lol: You might not , but i garuntee the players at Manchester United will.
Seriously guys , whenever anyone seems to say anything wrong about your team you pounce on them like Jeremy Kyle would a benefit cheat . Saying your midfield is fine contributes to my statement considerably , some of you are the most deluded Manc fans i have ever heard.
Tbh, our midfield is pretty weak compared to other top teams. I wouldn't mind Modric, but if I had to choose a Spurs midfielder, I'd rather it be Palacios. But no way would I add Carrick in the swap, he's one of our only good midfielders. I'd like for Fergie to buy Palacios but I very much doubt it'll happen. :(
EDIT: Oi, Cliché... I wouldn't exactly say I'm biased. :D
Who the **** said our midfield is brilliant? No-one. You're putting words into our mouths here. But it's no where near bad. It is a hell of a lot better than Liverpool's for one. And if you don't want to listen to us speak good about the team we love, then why the **** are you coming into our thread? Why don't you **** off back to the Liverpool thread?
TommyFewty
08-24-2009, 13:32
Gotta love people who cant have a convo :snicker Better than Liverpools? Gerrard/Masch./Aquaboy worse than Anderson/Fletch/Carrick? Please. Ash proves he cant read, none of our posts ever said that YOU said your mids were brilliant, direct quotes please OR just dont lie bout what we said.
santinomarella
08-24-2009, 13:52
These are PSU Forums Manchester United fans you are talking to remember , where everything about Manchester United is perfect. Ronaldo gone , ITS ALRIGHT ! ... Tevez gone , NEVERMIND ! Replaced by some reject and a substandard Wigan player. BUT ITS OKAY ! We won 3 Championships in a row ! Losing Ronaldo doesnt matter , we wont miss his 90+ goals one single bit :lol: You might not , but i garuntee the players at Manchester United will.
Seriously guys , whenever anyone seems to say anything wrong about your team you pounce on them like Jeremy Kyle would a benefit cheat . Saying your midfield is fine contributes to my statement considerably , some of you are the most deluded Manc fans i have ever heard.
I dont think everyone has ever said "its alright" and "nevermind" about Ronaldo and Tevez leaving, but im sure you will go back and look through older posts to try and prove me wrong.
With Ronaldo and Tevez we cant keep going on and on about them, yes we will miss them, yes we would rather have them in our side BUT they are both gone and we cannot base every discussion on them, they are gone and as much as we hate it we have to move on!
I may be wrong but the "pouncing" that has taken place when something wrong was said was based on you calling our midfield ****. Now i dont see how we are deluded if we react badly to that statement, at least when Tommy commented on our midfield it was a logical comment.
Back to the original topic, i wouldnt mind Modric in our team, but i dont wanna lose Carrick in the deal.
Cliché-Skating
08-24-2009, 14:02
Ha , Santino your the worst out of the lot. You try to act like this mature football fan who likes to have debates about football , when infact your the one that feels the need to send me crap over PSN :lol:
Oh and the pouncing comment wasnt based just off me calling your midfield , it was based on my time veiwing this thread.
But whatever , you lot continue your biased debates and totally ignore the faults in Manchester United. :-o
santinomarella
08-24-2009, 14:14
Ha , Santino your the worst out of the lot. You try to act like this mature football fan who likes to have debates about football , when infact your the one that feels the need to send me crap over PSN :lol:
Oh and the pouncing comment wasnt based just off me calling your midfield , it was based on my time veiwing this thread.
But whatever , you lot continue your biased debates and totally ignore the faults in Manchester United. :-o
:lol: I picked up the idea of sending you comments over PSN from Stoney during a funny FIFA rivalry on here, plus i havnt sent you one in ages, i believe i agreed to stop if you would actually start posting normally.
I am a mature football fan when chatting with other mature footballing fans and im sure maybe even you would agree back then you wernt so mature, and the infractions and warnings you recieved would back my point up.
i know football is basically a religion for you lot but seriously will you all stop with the petty bickering.
Cliche this thread is to discuss Manchester if you think that the people who post in here are not going to be biased then you clearly need to rethink how a forum works.
so quit twisting what people say and either post constructively or get the hell out.
adiearnold
08-24-2009, 15:25
i know football is basically a religion for you lot but seriously will you all stop with the petty bickering.
Cliche this thread is to discuss Manchester if you think that the people who post in here are not going to be biased then you clearly need to rethink how a forum works.
so quit twisting what people say and either post constructively or get the hell out.
Yep something wrong with him.
yourmumsface17
08-24-2009, 15:27
Wow what the hell has gone on while I went out...
Cliche - Why the personal attack on Santino? Makes you sound such a bitter child its amazing, sorry but if we want to be positive about our players on a man united thread then this should be none of your buisness and if we are truly 'deluded' then you will get the last laugh yes?
Also like to ask how Liverpools midfield is better I would argue the starting 3 is stronger but once you go by Macscherano Aquilani (who could easily flop) Lucas ...oh yeh Gerrard who is debatebly now a supporting striker! Who have you got? Man United have strength and depth in midfield even if it is not a 'amazing' midfield
Why's Valencia a Wigan reject? :confused:
I don't think you can deny who the better finisher is out of Tevez and Owen :) BTW his first goal was sweeeeeeeet
I have no problem with people debating the idea that United have a 'weak' midfield as this is a forum where people come to debate there ideas its just when things get personal that things go a bit far for me or ridiculous comments like your 'midfield is ****' thats why I never really have a go at Tommy as I may not always agree with his opinions he posts it in a sensible manner and backs it up well
ANYWAY!
Back to a footballing matter =)
Man United Arsenal big game early on, it's concerning cos Le Arse are on good form, it should be a really good game like normal between the 2
Cliché-Skating
08-24-2009, 16:02
Alright.
Sorry for being a **** and not elaborating.
From now on ill act in a mature and unoffenseive manner.
It really is harder said than done though , like , seriously. :neutral:
powerslave205
08-24-2009, 16:36
Only sing when your winning.
You dont help yourself one bit , hating a player then when he scores like him. :lol:
ANYWAYS.
Modric would be a good signing for you , i mean , lets be honest here and not beat around the bush , your midfield is *****.
Deleted, I never said I liked him, I just said he impressed me with his moves on Saturday. I still think we should have a better forward than him. :gta:
Please do not insult other members, Comatosed.
desolationw
08-24-2009, 16:52
This isn't the first time Kopkiwi has posted something, and asked a couple of questions about our thoughts and Cliche has come in straight after to wind everyone up. You think people would learn by now to not respond.
Anyway, Modric would be a good signing for Utd, but our main concern is a DM. Carrick is trying to do this job but everyone knows it is not his style and using him as a temp only works if your not doing it for every game.
IF Hargreaves stays fit, then him and Carrick would be solid in midfield as it lets Carrick attack more and his passing is quality.
Valencia was not a Wigan reject, and it amazed me how the Wigan fans booed him last weekend on his return. He spent 2 years on loan at Wigan and then 1.5 years in a contract. It's not asif he used Wigan for a season to get a contract with a bigger club. I never seen Palacios get that reception.
Agreed, if you can get Hargreaves fit he will bring a new dimension to your game as he will allow Carrick to come of the leash and show a greater scope for his creativity. Could be a big thing for you lot. Heard hes not going to be fit until at least january though and evan then he will have to get match fit and deal with any possible setbacks.
Only sing when your winning.
You dont help yourself one bit , hating a player then when he scores like him. :lol:
ANYWAYS.
Modric would be a good signing for you , i mean , lets be honest here and not beat around the bush , your midfield is *****.
And what would Modric bring? No thanks rather have Flectcher and Ando in the middle. And its *****? It can't be that bad if we win the premiership 3 years in a row and back to back champions league finals?
And what would Modric bring? No thanks rather have Flectcher and Ando in the middle. And its *****? It can't be that bad if we win the premiership 3 years in a row and back to back champions league finals?
I get Ando... he's young and can improve. Matter of fact, I hold high hopes for him. But you'd rather have Fletcher than Modric? Now that's just plain silly. :rolleyes:
Like I said, if we bought a mid from Spurs, I'd rather have Palacios please.
desolationw
08-24-2009, 19:17
It's a different situation though. Fletcher and Anderson in midfield means one DM and one CM. Anderson and Modric in midfield means a CM and an AM, too risky nowadays to not have a DM.
If Modric came in, i would prefer to see Carrick and Hargreaves in the center and Modric and Valencia / Nani on the wings.
I'm sorry, I just don't class Fletcher as a DM at all. He has no qualities of a DM. That's just my opinion though, and saying that in this thread will just get laughed at I bet. But yeah, give me Carrick/Modric over Carrick/Fletcher any day of the week.
Bostonmess
08-24-2009, 20:00
I always find it interesting how Manu fans became Manu fans.
My tale's like the song:
When I was just a little boy (about 4) I asked my father what should I be and he said "Leeds" and I said "why" and he said "cos they're as good as anyone else"
So that was that.
How do you become a Manu fan though?
Tutankhamun
08-24-2009, 20:14
I always find it interesting how Manu fans became Manu fans.
My tale's like the song:
When I was just a little boy (about 4) I asked my father what should I be and he said "Leeds" and I said "why" and he said "cos they're as good as anyone else"
So that was that.
How do you become a Manu fan though?
I saw them play when I was eight or something, and I felt in love with the way they played.
Same, there's a thread on your favourite team and why you support them... why don't you find it and look at the answers?
I always find it interesting how Manu fans became Manu fans.
My tale's like the song:
When I was just a little boy (about 4) I asked my father what should I be and he said "Leeds" and I said "why" and he said "cos they're as good as anyone else"
So that was that.
How do you become a Manu fan though?
When I was 5 or 6, I saw them on the news on TV and thought "Hey, they look cool" and I've loved them ever since.
Plus, David Beckham was my idol. :D
Yey, Liverpool lost. Good news for us. :D Though to be fair, it wasn't to Burnley...
Yey, Liverpool lost. Good news for us. :D Though to be fair, it wasn't to Burnley...
Hey, at least we've won our other two games. Pool haven't.
Tutankhamun
08-25-2009, 11:11
I was sitting at ny Uni, eating lunch and I read that SAF plans to sell both Anderson an Carrick apperently he has clashed with both of them.
Anderson is rumored to be sold to Barcelona and Carrick to (sit down for this) Liverpool.
Source: http://bit.ly/aqDXb
If you excuse me I'm going to go and lay down for awhile.
adiearnold
08-25-2009, 11:16
I was sitting at ny Uni, eating lunch and I read that SAF plans to sell both Anderson an Carrick apperently he has clashed with both of them.
Anderson is rumored to be sold to Barcelona and Carrick to (sit down for this) Liverpool.
Source: http://bit.ly/aqDXb
If you excuse me I'm going to go and lay down for awhile.
Highly unlikely, Anderson has great potential and Carrick is a great player. If they were both sold there would only be scholes, fletcher, Gibson and Hargreaves is out injured until god knows when.
Tbh, lots of tabloids are reporting that Anderson and Fergie had a row because Anderson's complaining about lack of game time. Can't blame him, tbh... having Gibson and Fletcher chose over him is pretty irritating. So apparently Anderson said he'd rather leave than stay on the bench and Fergie looks like he's gonna grant his wish. :( Also, Anderson was close to Ronny so it might also have an effect.
I don't want Anderson to go... :(
Oh, and I think that Carrick rumour is complete and utter rubbish... not even worth reading tbh.
adiearnold
08-25-2009, 11:25
Tbh, lots of tabloids are reporting that Anderson and Fergie had a row because Anderson's complaining about lack of game time. Can't blame him, tbh... having Gibson and Fletcher chose over him is pretty irritating. So apparently Anderson said he'd rather leave than stay on the bench and Fergie looks like he's gonna grant his wish. :( Also, Anderson was close to Ronny so it might also have an effect.
I don't want Anderson to go... :(
Oh, and I think that Carrick rumour is complete and utter rubbish... not even worth reading tbh.
Fletcher has come on leaps and bounds of the last 2 seasons though. Man utd should keep Anderson happy, great player in the works.
yourmumsface17
08-25-2009, 12:47
I was sitting at ny Uni, eating lunch and I read that SAF plans to sell both Anderson an Carrick apperently he has clashed with both of them.
Anderson is rumored to be sold to Barcelona and Carrick to (sit down for this) Liverpool.
Source: http://bit.ly/aqDXb
If you excuse me I'm going to go and lay down for awhile.
I personally think both BS but you never know =(
Just rumours made up because both havnt played alot, but to be fair Anderson was gonna come on as a sub v Birmingham but Evans got injured so he didn't
Carrick to Liverpool.. no way lol
I was sitting at ny Uni, eating lunch and I read that SAF plans to sell both Anderson an Carrick apperently he has clashed with both of them.
Anderson is rumored to be sold to Barcelona and Carrick to (sit down for this) Liverpool.
Source: http://bit.ly/aqDXb
If you excuse me I'm going to go and lay down for awhile.
IVe heard rumors about him and Carrick had a big bust up and he could be on his way to Spurs in a swap for Modric and some money but Ive heard nothing about Anderson.
santinomarella
08-25-2009, 16:43
The rumours ive heard is that there was some sort of bust up at the Community Shield involving Anderson. :(
Tutankhamun
08-25-2009, 19:06
The rumours ive heard is that there was some sort of bust up at the Community Shield involving Anderson. :(
I understand this is what happend, Carrick must have disrespected SAF sometime after that. That's why he did not play against Burnley.
I would like anderson and carrick to stay, anderson has so much potential, he brings energy to uniteds midfield. We all know carrick is a great pass of the ball.
santinomarella
08-26-2009, 21:16
So i think Real Madrid are a 2nd seed team for champions league draw tomorrow, Its obvious were gonna be drawn in same group as them isnt it.
powerslave205
08-27-2009, 03:14
Does anyone know where I can see the drawing live??
I understand this is what happend, Carrick must have disrespected SAF sometime after that. That's why he did not play against Burnley.
Or could be papers making up stuff.
Hope we get an easy group... but I can't fight off the gut feeling that we'll get a very tough one seeing as how we've had pretty easy ones the past few years.
Anderson better not go. I got him on the back of my away shirt!
Tutankhamun
08-27-2009, 14:59
Or could be papers making up stuff.
Wouldn't be the first time ;) You never know with things like these.
R3D D3V!L
08-27-2009, 16:00
Tabloids always make stuff up to create interest in their paper. It wouldn't surprise me if what they say is complete BS.
TommyFewty
08-27-2009, 17:54
Man Utd
CSKA Moscow
Besiktas
Wolfsburg
Not a bad group, should top it with ease.
Tutankhamun
08-27-2009, 17:56
Man Utd
CSKA Moscow
Besiktas
Wolfsburg
Not a bad group, should top it with ease.
Could be hard, not easy teams to play away.
Cliché-Skating
08-27-2009, 17:57
I wouldnt undestimate CSKA and nor would i Wolfsburg.
Didnt CSKA beat you a few year back. Im sure i remember watching it on Holiday. Danny scored right?
Yay, we got Wolfsburg... I was hoping we'd get them. Lovely team that plays very good attacking and entertaining footy. Plus they have immense fans at the Volkswagen Arena.
Besiktas - I hate playing Turkish teams away, their fans are just thugs and the players on the pitch are the worse kind of footballing bullies.
CSKA Moscow - They're a good Europa League team, but they won't be good enough to get out of this group.
R3D D3V!L
08-27-2009, 21:42
Yet on Sky they were claiming our group was tricky. What a load of BS lol.
Yet on Sky they were claiming our group was tricky. What a load of BS lol.
Should be top only game i can see us struggling is Wolfsburg away and thats only a maybe but on the night they can be a good team.
Yet on Sky they were claiming our group was tricky. What a load of BS lol.
Like I said, the teams themselves aren't hard BUT Turkish teams away are tricky and the trip to Russia will be a tiring one.
Like I said, the teams themselves aren't hard BUT Turkish teams away are tricky and the trip to Russia will be a tiring one.
Could be some trouble at the away game in Turkey.
Should be an interesting game between your lot and the arse.
Arse playing some mighty impressive football and scoring for fun. Though the Eduardo debacle could prove to be an untimely distraction.
You guys however, despite your win at Wigan, still maybe struggling to hit top form and find the right formation and players.
Should be pretty open, picking a high scoring game.
Tutankhamun
08-29-2009, 14:25
I think we will win it, we had it easy against Arsenal last year, that got to be in there heads.
I think we will win it, we had it easy against Arsenal last year, that got to be in there heads.
They looked pretty impressive against you in the league wins. But didn't seem to give two ****s in the CL games.
Holy crap, someone tell me why the heck is ryan giggs playing? I cant even give him a half time rating as he does not deserve a 1/10. I am still not impressed with valencia or nani. I cant believe im going to say this but fletcher has been our best player first half. Get giggs off.