The Manchester United Thread

[John25]

Try Veetle.com

[yourmumsface17]

Really natural finish, brilliant technique

[Metal Warrior]

Welbeck is the real deal. I remember having a discussion with Tut in pre-season about Welbeck and Macheda. Seems I was definately right about Welbeck. :mrgreen:

[Tutankhamun]

Missed the Welbck goal, was trying to find a better stream. How did it happen?

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah I've always really liked Danny

[Tutankhamun]

Never mind, just saw a replay. Awesome goal.

[yourmumsface17]

Ball into the box or something Welbeck sort of knocked it up, the defender got in front of it, he ran round the defender and smashed a volley in, best I can describe it tbh.

[manutdfan]

Danny boy!! Great techers

[gangsta_795]

Improvised a volley and BAM! back of the net

[Tutankhamun]

Gangsta, the Nutjobtv1 [EN] stream on the site I sent is decent enough. English commentators too.

[John25]

How was he not sent off ???

[gangsta_795]

Rooneyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^Yeah he should've been :|

[Tutankhamun]

Rooney!!!! 0-3 I can't believe it!


How was he not sent off ???

The ref does not have the balls.

[manutdfan]

Rooooooooooooooney!!!

We want 7!!!!!

[yourmumsface17]

Very similar to the game at OT - City playing the United role of having lots of the ball and doing nothing with it (and getting a man off) and United just being deadly

[gangsta_795]

Gangsta, the Nutjobtv1 [EN] stream on the site I sent is decent enough. English commentators too.

Thanks I'll give it a try

[John25]

Rooney!!!! 0-3 I can't believe it!



The ref does not have the balls.

Tbf though the earlier Red was a harsh one IMO as he went in low no studs were showing so that balances it out but meh glad you guys are up hopefully you Avenge that 6-1 loss !!!

[manutdfan]

He didn't even book him, could of been red.

Welbeck softest booking ever !!

[yourmumsface17]

Rooney!!!! 0-3 I can't believe it!



The ref does not have the balls.

To be fair the sending off he did do took balls - doing it to the captain at their home ground in a derby. Fair play to him.

[Tutankhamun]

Sure, but unless something really dirty happens he won't send another City player off. That's just how it is. All refs are like that.

[Metal Warrior]

Oh Welbeck that should've been 4, great chance that.

[Tutankhamun]

Any bets on when Scholes will come on? I say like the last five minutes.

[gangsta_795]

We couldn't possibly have had a better start :D

[Metal Warrior]

You can't ask for any more. Well maybe that last chance for Welbeck to make it 4, but this'll do. :mrgreen:

[yourmumsface17]

In regards to the red card, from what I have seen there has been 2 angles, the one where the ref can see it you can see he lunges 2 footed with his studs up, the other looks like he is quite low.

End of the day you can't dive in like that, Nani had no chance of getting the ball with Kompany diving in so violently. Winning the ball = irrelavent.

Fair play to Nani for not crying about it though!

[gangsta_795]

Any bets on when Scholes will come on? I say like the last five minutes.

I would've said the same before the match started but I guess as of now, he can be risked being brought on earlier.

[yourmumsface17]

The argument Dc will bring in later is going to be absolutely devastating :lol:

[jj03]

ok...so far so good. some sad city faces around the stadium...good to see...kompany didn't deserve to be sent off...bang out of order. we have to tread carefully still, but carry on as we are. i think we will see scholesy soon. city are all over the place since kompanys sending off. thats how important he is to the team. :-)

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[gangsta_795]

ok...so far so good. some sad city faces around the stadium...good to see...kompany didn't deserve to be sent off...bang out of order. we have to tread carefully still, but carry on as we are. i think we will see scholesy soon. city are all over the place since kompanys sending off. thats how important he is to the team. :-)

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You're at Etihad?

[Tutankhamun]

So does anyone still think Rooney is leaving?

[yourmumsface17]

Looking at replays now. It does look a red. He just dived in 2 footed stupidly. I think it was his own stupidity really, why dive in two footed.

Love ITV sitting there basically trying their best to make United look shit haha.

One thing the commentator said was "Oh you don't wanna spoil the game" funny no one was saying that when Evans was sent off...

[Metal Warrior]

That red card shouldn't really be disputed. Yes it's a bit harsh but it's definately understandable, it didn't come from nowhere. End of the day, he went in with 2 feet and from that point he has a choice to make and a red is always an option.

[gangsta_795]

So does anyone still think Rooney is leaving?

Absolutely not. Rooney wouldn't, in his sane mind, even think of leaving. The future he has here is very bright indeed. Also, I'm pretty sure he tweeted, disregarding such reports.

[yourmumsface17]

5 quid on it to finish 5-1 United! I believe!

[gangsta_795]

Got the TV back. No laggy streaming for me!! :D

[Metal Warrior]

Damn second unstoppable free kick in 2 games time. Let's keep our calm now.

[gangsta_795]

It was a good free kick. :|

But now we can finish it 6-1 ;)

[gangsta_795]

Scholess!!!!

[manutdfan]

Scholsey!

[John25]

Stonewall Penalty!!!

[yourmumsface17]

There goes my bet...

[Metal Warrior]

Definate second penalty by Kolarov, not given. Foy has lost the plot by now.

[gangsta_795]

Shit this is bad.
Lindegaard should have held that.

Scholes....

[yourmumsface17]

Football is such a fucking funny game lol

[manutdfan]

Stonewall penalty and kolarov should be off two bookings at least.

[Metal Warrior]

City's confidence will be sky high now, nicely done by us. We've really fucked up big time in the second half. WORK FUCKING HARDER.

[manutdfan]

We'll get a 4th..

[Metal Warrior]

We're shockingly bad now. We've not looked to score at all this half and we're paying for it. Unbelievable really. We're trying to hold on to a lead while we should've come out all guns blazing after HT and we would've surely scored more goals. They've played an entire game with a man down FFS!

[gangsta_795]

Subbing Welbeck was a not-so-good decision imo

[Metal Warrior]

Subbing Welbeck was a not-so-good decision imo

Putting Scholes on was a massive fuck up as well. Fergie has completely lost the plot at half time.

[yourmumsface17]

Why is it whenever we get a decision the commentators are like "Hmmm United have benefited from this hmmm .. hmmm"

Milner obstructs the balls "How is that United's freekick"

shockingly biased commentators.

[yourmumsface17]

I mean Scholes has only given the ball away twice.

[three3-times]

are we not playing 11 vs 10???? shit

[three3-times]

if your anderson and a RETIRED player gets on before you, surely u gotta rethink your future?!

take from joey barton on twitter

[yourmumsface17]

Phil Jones has been shockingly bad...

Quoting Joey Barton there 3x...

[three3-times]

we shouldve gone on to WHOOP THE SHIT OUTTA THEM, yet we are hanging on?!

[three3-times]

Phil Jones has been shockingly bad...

Quoting Joey Barton there 3x...

yes i am, but its true!

also, jones needs to be taken out the firing line. rafa is fit ffs

[yourmumsface17]

They will score...

[Metal Warrior]

We look like we've got our nerves under control again, thank god. Let's finish this nicely.

Edit: why do I say these things. Jesus. My stream is behind so sorry about that.

[yourmumsface17]

Wish the commentators would stop wanking...

[three3-times]

fuck off.................... glad we won, but that shouldve been so much more empthatic, thats all we will here now that city played like lions thanks to our wackness and fergie bringing scholes on.

[manutdfan]

New Erection Rising...

[yourmumsface17]

Scholes did well other than losing the ball once. He kept the ball really well at the end

[santinomarella]

Phew!!!

Don't give a damn what happened in that game, we're through!!!!! Let's go on get this FA Cup!!!

Bye bye City. :D

[gangsta_795]

Thank god we held our own in those closing moments. 3 players that were, in my opinion, extremely admirable :

Jones - Did great in supporting the attack
Rooney - Held out the defense a few times
Welbeck - Played great overall

[yourmumsface17]

Jones was absolutely wank :lol:

[Metal Warrior]

I'm very glad we're through and would've definately taken this before the game. But I feel about as bad as you'll ever feel after a win away to a rival team. Other than the win I can't take any positives from this.

[manutdfan]

Yep bye bye City :)

[three3-times]

smailling was immense as usual, jones had another stinker

[three3-times]

I'm very glad we're through and would've definately taken this before the game. But I feel about as bad as you'll ever feel after a win away to a rival team. Other than the win I can't take any positives from this.

exactly

[Sub-stance1]

let me guess...Now you guys are confident in Man-U again right? See that's what happens when you overreact to a loss or two.

[three3-times]

Jones was absolutely wank :lol:

worryingly, again

[three3-times]

let me guess...Now you guys are confident in Man-U again right? See that's what happens when you overreact to a loss or two.

listen you, stop calling us man u.

and i still think we are shit

[yourmumsface17]

OptaJoe (https://twitter.com/#%21/OptaJoe) Opta Sports



71 - After coming on after 60 mins, Paul Scholes made 71 passes (97% complete), more than any Man City player in the entire game. Comeback.

[three3-times]

partnership is defo welbz and wazza. so much movement from them too, welbz is much more rounded than javier,

lil pea needs to develop is game more and berba can just fuck off

[yourmumsface17]

The Budweiser Man of the Match :lol: I hate how everything is based on co operations

[mankind]

Thats the worst I have seen jones play fuck me he was really bad. I was shitting myself that second half. Cant believe we played so shit second half.

[yourmumsface17]

partnership is defo welbz and wazza. so much movement from them too, welbz is much more rounded than javier,

lil pea needs to develop is game more and berba can just fuck off
He's been great recently :( Was awesome against Blackburn, looked like the only one who cared :(

dude no, he isnt for us and never really was. just doesnt suit our game. not really bothered if he scores against lesser teams. he touched the ball once or twice against newcastle.

[santinomarella]

No need to concentrate on the 2nd half performance. Knocking City out of the cup outweighs all the negatives. Couldn't care less how we got the win, we got it!

We will get Liverpool at Anfield in the 4th round.

[three3-times]

ugh, all we are gonna hear now is that city played like warriors.......fuck off, we gave them the impetus and anders fucked up

kompany will get a 4 game now as thats his 2nd red card!

[mankind]

Cant blame Scholes, just a bit rusty is all.

[yourmumsface17]

I don't understand how they can be happy? Losing mentality much :P They scored a FK and a defensive error

[three3-times]

even fergie is saying he wasnt happy with the 2nd half performance

[Metal Warrior]

Cant blame Scholes, just a bit rusty is all.

Scholes did well all things considered, but it still was a terrible decision by Fergie. The game didn't turn in our favour at that point. We just needed to do the same as the first half when we looked like scoring a lot more goals.

[santinomarella]

We should have prevented both goals really. The free kick was very good but no one jumped! Phil Jones made a little jump. Not saying it would have stopped it but JUMP! I don't think they even attempted to jump for the Cabaye free kick. The other was an error by Scholes from the throw in and then Anders should have done better with Aguero's shot.

[three3-times]

i echo safs words, he IS NOT HAPPY AND NEITHER SHOULD ANY OF U B

[three3-times]

Well, at least we got a another CM.....

at 38 year old and a 37 year old are our best players and gotta win us the league....... jesus.....

[Noxia]

Not bad for a Europa League game.

[gangsta_795]

Scholes played great for where he was.

Rooney and Welbeck partnership was working out well. Latter didn't like it when he was subbed off lol.

But overall, though the scoreline could have been better, it was a good win for us.

[three3-times]

Hope fergie is giving them what for

[santinomarella]

We done the Poznan. :snicker

https://p.twimg.com/AipXgNyCEAAWNgw.jpg

Fletcher and Young were in the with United fans as well today. :D (Not that pic lol)

[yourmumsface17]

I think credit should go to Mancini for his tactics. His team were way more prepared for playing with 10 men than we are, United just go for it :lol: City's 3-5-1 worked a treat, when we had a ball the back line was 5 which made it frustrating for United.

Credit to City for that.

I think Scholes coming on was fine, look at that stat I posted before, incredible, we kept the ball a bit better when he was on and that was what was needed to take the sting out of the game.

I'm obviously not happy at the second half, we conceded 2 cheap goals, but you know, it happens.

Obviously Fergie is going mental.

However I just walked to the library and saw some disapointed looking City fans - safe to say that has improved my mood dramatically :cool:

[Tutankhamun]

We were incredibly sloppy in the second half but enough to see us through and that's all that matters. Nice to see Rooney scoring two and kissing the badge!

[santinomarella]

Tweet from Kompany:



The fans, the players and every single person involved with Man City FC were incredible today. Definitely the moral winners of this game.


They are the moral winners!!

The sense was spoken by Roy Keane though:



"You can give City all the credit you like, but they're out of the cup!''


EDIT: Wait! it get's better, tweet from Richards:



We lost today but in our heads we won! Out team spirit is inspirational! The fans kept us going for 90 mins! Thank u. Ctid

They have now won morally and in their heads!!

[LfCpS3]

Tweet from Kompany:



They are the moral winners!!

The sense was spoken by Roy Keane though:
The same guy who said " man u have a better team on paper" ?

LOL.

[Metal Warrior]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/08/manchester-city-united-five-talking-points


3. Blaming the referee isn't always the answer

For City, the temptation was to blame Chris Foy. They booed him off the pitch at the end. There were cries of "fix" and "cheat" and, at half-time, Roberto Mancini's right-hand man, David Platt, was waiting for him at the entrance of the tunnel. The anger was clear and voluble, and there is no getting away from the fact that Vincent Kompany's red card left them in a state of disrepair. Yet Kompany, as captain, failed his team the moment he launched himself off the ground with both feet. It does not matter what intent he had, or how much of Nani and the ball he got; the simple fact is that a player raising both feet in a sliding tackle is asking for trouble. Foy made mistakes, inevitably, but the bigger ones took place long after Kompany had left the pitch. Aleksandar Kolarov brought down Antonio Valencia for a clear penalty at 3-1 and City could have taken the game to a replay if Phil Jones's handball had been spotted.

A very honest analysis. It's refreshing that he doesn't just pick out the errors going against City and also highlights the missed penalty on Valencia (which would've certainly killed off the game). City obviously suffered harder from his harsh decision early in the game, but he was terrible in both ways. I fully believe if it was a United player making that challenge he would've been sent off as well. Foy just isn't a very good referee.

[santinomarella]

The same guy who said " man u have a better team on paper" ?

LOL.

I didn't say he spoke sense with that comment though did I? I said he spoke sense with the quote I put in my post.

[Tutankhamun]

Rooney plans United stay
Striker moves to reject rumours


http://img.skysports.com/12/01/660x350/Manchester-City-v-Manchester-United-Wayne-Roo_2699856.jpg
Wayne Rooney celebrates scoring his first goal in the FA Cup win over Man City

Wayne Rooney claims he wants to stay at Manchester United for 'a long time' after scoring twice in the FA Cup win over Manchester City.

The England star went into Sunday's game at the Etihad Stadium with his future at Old Trafford the subject of intense speculation.

Reports have suggested Rooney could be on his way out of United, but the striker made a point of clutching the United badge after scoring his first goal against City.

Asked if he had a point to prove against City, Rooney told ITV: "No, not at all. Everything that has been in the press of late is a load of nonsense really.

"There is no problem for me at this club, I want to be at this club for a long time."

Shock

Paul Scholes came out of retirement and was named on the bench, coming on in the second half.

And Rooney admitted the United players did not know about the situation until they got into the dressing room before the game.

"It was a bit of a shock to be honest, we didn't know until we were in the dressing room, but he's a great player," added Rooney.

United were left hanging on at the end after City pulled two goals back in the second half and Rooney admits maybe they took their foot off the gas after going in 3-0 up at half-time.

"We knew it was going to be difficult today, going 3-0 up we maybe took our foot off the gas a bit," continued Rooney.

"City got two goals and we had to make sure we saw the game out and thankfully we managed to do that."



Sky Sports (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7418492/)

There, that ought to end it. But whom am I kidding...

[R3D D3V!L]

Tweet from Kompany:



They are the moral winners!!

The sense was spoken by Roy Keane though:



EDIT: Wait! it get's better, tweet from Richards:



They have now won morally and in their heads!!

Because moral victories win you trophies.

Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk

[yourmumsface17]

:lol: moral winners? They can be moral winners all day long as far as I care.


R_o_M (http://www.psu.com/#!/R_o_M) Scott the Red



Manchester City set to win the "Moral Victory Cup" this season whilst Arsenal are favourites for "Lowest Net Spend Trophy".

[gangsta_795]

No point blaming the referee. Even we deserved that Valencia penalty.

[santinomarella]

"The 6-1 jokes only lasted for 2-3 months"

:lol:

[santinomarella]

Seems like some trouble is kicking off after the game.


#MCFC
fans upset afterwards throwing bricks and coins at United fans. Not to mention the Munich chants. Will the press pick up on this?
(https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23MCFC)

Apparently some one was hit with a brick and required many stitches. Lets hope fans don't over shadow today's game.

[gangsta_795]

Seems like some trouble is kicking off after the game.



Apparently some one was hit with a brick and required many stitches. Lets hope fans don't over shadow today's game.

It's really sad that such stuff happens at the highest level of football in the world.

[Tutankhamun]

Rooney: I'm going nowhere

Wayne Rooney has moved to kill speculation over his future, insisting that he intends to remain at Old Trafford for 'a long time'.

Recent press rumours have suggested that the striker could be sold either this month or in the summer, citing an alleged breakdown in his relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson.

Having dismissed those stories as idle conjecture on Friday evening, Rooney again had his say on the matter after scoring twice in United's FA Cup victory at Manchester City.

"I think everything which has been in the press of late has been a load of nonsense, really," the striker told ITV Sport.

"Because it's me, because it's Manchester United, it's blown up out of context. There's no problem with me at this club and I want to be at the club for a long time."

Sir Alex Ferguson backs Rooney's assertion, but warned his star man that he will continue to be burned by the glare of the media's spotlight.

"We must explain this about Rooney - he's a headline-maker, whether it's good or bad," the boss told MUTV. "The press don't mind. It's a situation we experienced many years ago with Paul Gascoigne.

"This is the new Paul Gascoigne: a headline-maker, and we're better seeing him like that today when it's good stuff. Any flaws in Wayne will be absolutely annihilated by the press because that's what they're like. That's the animal we're dealing with.

"Today it was a magnificent performance from him. There's no problem with the boy's temperament, no problem with him at all. It's just off the field he's going to be spotlighted all the time."



ManUtd.com (http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Jan/rooney-going-nowhere.aspx?newsid=675FE691-F6D5-4E51-AAA9-84C5CB85C71B)

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Mixed emotions for Sir Alex

“I think we made them look better than they were,” the boss told ITV and MUTV. “We just had a carelessness in the second half. The problem was, we were 3-0 up at half time and we thought we were through and they took our foot off the pedal.



ManUtd.com (http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Jan/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-reacts-to-City-win.aspx?newsid=BEBB8492-A09C-4EAC-B43B-A0D8B4685E5E)

Well said by SAF on both subjects.

[three3-times]

yeah, it was kicking off after the game.......

btw, i advise you all to stay outta the liverpool thread for awhile lest u want infractions........heed my warning as staff member

[yourmumsface17]

Ahhh crap just posted there :lol:

EDIT: No worries edited to avoid it.

[three3-times]

Ahhh crap just posted there :lol:

I KNOW you did!:lol:

[yourmumsface17]

If I post the Suarez on Wheel of Fortune video would they be offended? :D

[Tutankhamun]

Know what guys, the Liverpool thread is basically dead. If everyone besides Liverpool fans stopped posting there it'd be dead within weeks - not enough Liverpool fans on this forum. So if those guys want to be idiots (which they do) let's just all stop giving them any attention.

[three3-times]

Just try and keep outta of there till a MOD says summit as there have been reports. #tryingtohelpmyboys

[yourmumsface17]

:lol: it's all fun and games

[santinomarella]

The draw in a few minutes! We will get Liverpool! :lol:

[dc89]

The argument Dc will bring in later is going to be absolutely devastating :lol:

What can I say. The ref ruined it.


So does anyone still think Rooney is leaving?

Badge kissing... purlease. How original. I'm sure Beckham and CR7 kissed the badge too at some point.


are we not playing 11 vs 10???? shit

THIS!

At least City didn't roll over and die. And to think they scored 2 goals with 10 men with no Silva, Johnson, Barry, Balotelli, Dzeko, Yaya, Kompany & Hart on the field tells me three things:

1. There is a strong desire amongst the players to win. They don't want to be humiliated 6-1. They don't want to die or roll over and get a good spanking. They want to win. They are champions in the making.

2. They are not there just for the money. But it's hard convincing people of this.

3. Mancini is a tactical genius.

[Tutankhamun]

Badge kissing... purlease. How original. I'm sure Beckham and CR7 kissed the badge too at some point.

Oh fuck off. Beckham was sold at SAF's choosing. He did not request to be transferred. Ronaldo loves the club but it was his childhood dream to play for Real Madrid. If you still think Rooney is moving I don't even know what to say other than to read the articles posted above.

[dc89]

I thought petty insults were exclusive to the Liverpool thread? Of which, I'm going to take a look at now btw.

[santinomarella]

I knew it!! 4th round at Anfield!

[yourmumsface17]

Lol how did you know that! :lol:

I'd love for us to beat them then beat Chelsea and Tottenham away :lol:

[yourmumsface17]

Chelsea v QPR too :lol: It's all gone badly for the FA

[santinomarella]

Chelsea v QPR too :lol: It's all gone badly for the FA

Haha!!

[gangsta_795]

Liverpool is gonna be one hell of a match. I expect a similar result as today.

[three3-times]

you gotta be fucking kidding me, defo not fixed

FA must be shitting themselves.

evra CAN NOT play that game

[santinomarella]

When is the draw for the moral FA Cup. Who will City get?

[Tutankhamun]

Evra, can, and should play that game. Fuck the Liverpool supporters, will be fun having him run out from the tunnel as the Captain.

[three3-times]

Evra, can, and should play that game. Fuck the Liverpool supporters, will be fun having him run out from the tunnel as the Captain.

Nah, gotta protect him, saf does it for rooney, why not pat?

[Tutankhamun]

Nah, gotta protect him, saf does it for rooney, why not pat?

I don't understand why he does with for Rooney either to be honest. But I guess he feels Rooney isn't mentality ready for the abuse. I don't think it would become Evra though. That's why he should play. Also you can't let them win. If Evra does not play Liverpool FC and their supporters have been successful in their campaign to throw dirt at Evra and United.

[three3-times]

I don't understand why he does with for Rooney either to be honest. But I guess he feels Rooney isn't mentality ready for the abuse. I don't think it would become Evra though. That's why he should play. Also you can't let them win. If Evra does not play Liverpool FC and their supporters have been successful in their campaign to throw dirt at Evra and United.

Dan.......your right, and tbh, that game will be watched with a magnifying glass

[R3D D3V!L]

Evra has to play against Liverpool. Not playing him would be letting their idiotic classless fans win.

[T0PGUN]

you gotta be fucking kidding me, defo not fixed

FA must be shitting themselves.

evra CAN NOT play that game
I wouldn't bring ANY black players with you for that game :snicker

[santinomarella]

I wouldn't bring ANY black players with you for that game :snicker

They'll be fine Suarez will still be serving his ban.

:snicker

[Tutankhamun]

Fergie happy with Scholes return

Sir Alex Ferguson believes there are absolutely no negatives about Paul Scholes' decision to reverse his call to retire at the end of last season.

Sky Sports (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7418657/)

I think just having Scholes in the dressing room will be hugh help for us. His experience and voice is well respected at United.

[yourmumsface17]

Unrelated but this is THE football thread.

Neil Warnock appears to be sacked.

[santinomarella]

This better not mess up Macheda's loan. Same thing happened when he went to Sampdoria.

[John25]

All the game needs now is for Howard Webb to named as the Referee!! :P

[santinomarella]

All the game needs now is for Howard Webb to named as the Referee!! :P

The money is already on it's way to the FA and the wine will soon arrive at Webbs house. :D

[John25]

The money is already on it's way to the FA and the wine will soon arrive at Webbs house. :D

lol

lol just erect a statue of him outside OT and be done with it :P

[Tutankhamun]

Unrelated but this is THE football thread.

Neil Warnock appears to be sacked.

If the new manager won't play Macheda we should bring him back. Can't have the same thing happening to him as it did in Italy last season.

[R3D D3V!L]

I can't believe Warnock has been sacked. Didn't deserve it in the slightest.

[santinomarella]

According to wikipedia Welbeck's full name is -
Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah Welbeck :lol:


Is this true? lol

[Tutankhamun]

If it's on Wikipedia it must be true.

[jj03]

According to wikipedia Welbeck's full name is -
Daniel Nii Tackie Mensah Welbeck :lol:


Is this true? lol

yes.

yes it isn't.

.

[three3-times]

Yeah it is, i checked on Football Manager too, he is of Ghanian descent innit!

[gangsta_795]

Evra can and should play that game. No point in him not playing it.

Funny thing is, first the Liverpool supporters tried to justify Suarez's actions. When that didn't work, they out rightly denied them. Not making Evra play would be us trying to protect him for him being guilty. Which, he obviously, is not.

[Tutankhamun]

Not playing Evra would undervalue the work done by JFK, Dr.Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and others to bring equal rights to all humans. We can't let a bunch of idiotic Liverpool supporters dictate who we put on the pitch. It should be in the FA's interest to make sure Evra can walk out on that pitch and play the full 90-minutes without any disturbances. Playing Evra, to me, is more than just football.

[yourmumsface17]

Not only will he play but he will be captain :p

...but yeah he is gonna get abussssssssssed :lol:

[gangsta_795]

Not only will he play but he will be captain :p

...but yeah he is gonna get abussssssssssed :lol:

Nah we shouldn't think that would happen. With the ban handed out to Suarez, everyone will be VERY careful from here on. Hopefully.

[dc89]

Rooney's behaviour here is a disgrace.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gA6IQzVDrA&feature=player_embedded#

Especially when you consider he had it done to him. He's obviously forgotten about it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRYeIBO-ko

He didn't like being cheated off the field when his opponents pressurised the ref yet he's quite happy to do it to others. And that ladies and gentlemen is why I will never celebrate him as a England player.

[Tutankhamun]

To be fair to Rooney, he usually does not ask refs to give out cards nor does he waive his arms around. That tells me he probably thought that was an incredibly awful challenge. He did have an excellent view of it.

---


Agent - Vidic is like Messi
Serbian fully focused on recovering from injury, says agent

Nemanja Vidic's agent has ruled out the captain departing Manchester United, insisting it would be the equivalent of Lionel Messi leaving Barcelona.

Serbian centre-back Vidic will spend until next season on the sidelines after suffering a serious knee injury during United's UEFA Champions League defeat to Basel at the beginning of December.

His absence has struck a severe blow to Sir Alex Ferguson's men as they bid to defend the Premier League title.

Vidic's agent Silvano Martina says the 30-year-old, who is contracted at Old Trafford until summer 2014, is committed to United and focused on recovering from his injury.

And the representative has likened the skipper's importance to the Red Devils to that of Barca superstar Messi's at Camp Nou.

He told calciomercato.it: "Vidic for Manchester United is like Messi for Barcelona. How could you take him?

"He's the United captain and a key player for Sir Alex Ferguson. A move next summer is absolutely not an option.

"The player is only thinking of recovering as soon as possible from his ugly knee injury."



Sky Sports (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7420160/)

That's good, no way we could ever replace Vidic next summer.

[yourmumsface17]

Rooney's behaviour here is a disgrace.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gA6IQzVDrA&feature=player_embedded#

Especially when you consider he had it done to him. He's obviously forgotten about it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRYeIBO-ko

He didn't like being cheated off the field when his opponents pressurised the ref yet he's quite happy to do it to others. And that ladies and gentlemen is why I will never celebrate him as a England player.

So it was ok for Mancini to do the card waving gesture to the ref the other week?

It was ok for your players to surround the ref (maybe somewhere between 5-7 players) when you didn't get awarded a pen? (funny how ITV didn't even mention that)

Since you don't like the ref being pressurised and all....

EDIT: The view Rooney got was the view where it looked very dangerous (the other side made it look less so) and I can't blame him for saying that! All he did was say it was 2 footed (Correct)

Everyone pressurises the ref to some extent, everyone has words with the ref, funny how when Rooney does it he gets on the back pag of the Sun and everyone notices it...

http://i.imgur.com/OF63M.gif
Don't know how to post gifs but heres a great view of the tackle.

It was high, (Above the ankle) 2 footed, studs were showing and he had lost control of his body.


And before...
"Oh but he won the ball and didn't touch Nani"

Irrelavent. Nani jumped out the way causing him to lose possession, Nani wouldn't have jumped out the way but for Kompany's lunge. Ronaldo won a similar pen a few years ago against Boro, the keeper dived in and Ronaldo jumped out the way, he got the pen because he lost possession due to the keepers challenge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmTyPd5oqqg

Ronaldo sent off against City for something similar.

Sometimes you get away with them, sometimes you don't.

I know we weren't debating whether it was a red or not, I just knew that was where the convo was going :lol:

[santinomarella]

Well said YMF. Good to see certain things pointed out that a lot of people ignore. Especially since City done the same thing in the same game when they appealed a penalty for the Jones handball.

Dangerous lunge from Kompany but good technique if he has hopes to compete in the long jump in the 2012 Olympics.

Referees and the FA are stomping down on these challenges. It doesn't matter if the player gets the ball or if the player makes no contact, it's a dangerous challenge and a deserved red card. Referee just doing what was expected of him. Rooney knew this.

[LC77]

Rooney's behaviour here is a disgrace.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gA6IQzVDrA&feature=player_embedded#

Especially when you consider he had it done to him. He's obviously forgotten about it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRYeIBO-ko

He didn't like being cheated off the field when his opponents pressurised the ref yet he's quite happy to do it to others. And that ladies and gentlemen is why I will never celebrate him as a England player.

All he did was point out to the ref it was a two footed tackle, which it clearly is.

And this nonsense that Nani jumped out of the way just doesn't wash. Is Nani supposed to leave his knee/shins/ankle/metatarsals there, for Kompany to try and shatter?

The biggest hypocrite in all this is Mankini. He disgraced his profession running up and down the touchline like a nut job, asking for that cheating scouse git to be sent off. :snicker

And as for celebrating Rooney as an Engerland player, you know how the song goes.... you can stick yer feckin Engerland up yer..... :eek:

[santinomarella]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2csWI1QbfI&feature=youtu.be

:D Always great to see the players in with the fans.

[manutdfan]

DC acting like a grade A douche again. Rooney was letting the ref know it was a two footed tackle he had a good view of it.

Was a two footed un controlled lunge.

[gangsta_795]

DC acting like a grade A douche again. Rooney was letting the ref know it was a two footed tackle he had a good view of it.

Was a two footed un controlled lunge.

DC is a city fan?

City fans need to chill. They ARE the MORAL winners after all. :lol:

[yourmumsface17]

Wouldn't say he was being a douche, bit of a harsh thing to say :lol:

but I think he is being a touch hypocritical.

[Metal Warrior]

He didn't like being cheated off the field when his opponents pressurised the ref yet he's quite happy to do it to others. And that ladies and gentlemen is why I will never celebrate him as a England player.

So he cheated Kompany off the field? Sorry lad, it's no one's fault but Kompany himself that he got sent off. He presented the ref with the opportunity by going in with 2 feet off the ground. By the way, the only thing you're accomplishing with that last sentence is making yourself look ridiculous. I remember very well how excited you were about Rooney possibly joining you last season. Or was that just small time mentality to get one over us?

Why is everyone always looking for excuses? When one of us commits such a tackle we're generally extremely pissed off because of how stupid he is and how he's letting down the team. Kompany let you down, yet you're just pointing fingers to others. Victim much?

[Tutankhamun]

Sir Alex backing for Rooney

Sir Alex has defended Wayne Rooney's actions following Vincent Kompany's two-footed tackle on Nani at the Etihad Stadium on Sunday.

Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini was upset with the United striker gesturing to referee Chris Foy that the foul was dangerous and complained it played a part in the official opting to show the red card to the home captain.

However, the manager maintains it was the correct decision to dismiss the Belgian and feels Rooney's reaction was*an inevitable one in the wake of a poor challenge.

"I have no concerns about the behaviour in that respect because, to my mind, it was a reckless challenge and Nani is a very lucky boy because he didn't get a bad injury," he told a FIFA press conference in Zurich.

"I have no complaints about Wayne, I don't think it was unacceptable what he did. I think it was a natural reaction to a bad challenge from an opponent.

"But I can understand where Roberto's coming from because that's what happens with players today, they all appeal for penalties or players to be sent off. It's an unfortunate part of our game."

ManUtd.com (http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Jan/sir-alex-ferguson-backs-rooney-in-kompany-red-card-incident.aspx?newsid=B070DAB8-3E34-4A11-90E1-FD5A2F63F285)

[gangsta_795]

The appeal by Rooney was in the right place. Another attempt by City to stain our victory. Why can't they just accept the fact that they lost and start working towards improving that instead of making all sorts of rubbish claims?

[Shibby]

Nah we shouldn't think that would happen. With the ban handed out to Suarez, everyone will be VERY careful from here on. Hopefully.

Let's not underestimate how stupid and irrational drunk fans can be. And that goes for both sets of fans. They both have perfect opportunities to look like complete asses.

[gangsta_795]

Let's not underestimate how stupid and irrational drunk fans can be. And that goes for both sets of fans. They both have perfect opportunities to look like complete asses.

Yes they can (seeing how Man City fans started throwing bricks yesterday) and they cannot be trusted in such delicate matters. What I believe is, in this case, we should just forget about what happened and hope that no such instances occur in the future. Yes, Suarez has an aggressive personality and has been surrounded by controversies before but though I'm not a big fan of his, I know that he has great talent and we must not let his conduct alone overshadow his brighter side.

[manutdfan]

DC was creaming when he thought City were getting Rooney. He was happy to have him at city back then.

Big fat hypocrite!!

3-2.

[gangsta_795]

DC was creaming when he thought City were getting Rooney. He was happy to have him at city back then.

Big fat hypocrite!!

3-2.

Well we can't blame him for feeling sad that Rooney rejected City can we. ;)

(I know that's not what would have actually happened but I liked putting it that way :snicker)

[santinomarella]

Messi has won the Ballon D'Or, but in my head Bebe won it. It's definitely a moral victory for Bebe though.

[gangsta_795]

SAF won the FIFA Presidential Award. Legend.

[manutdfan]

You can't imagine what goes on in some people's heads :)

Nice one Fergie!! Yep legend!!!!

[santinomarella]

Cantona has announced he intends to run for the president of France!

[dc89]

DC was creaming when he thought City were getting Rooney. He was happy to have him at city back then.

Big fat hypocrite!!

3-2.

If you're using 3-2 to try and upset me you're to going to get anywhere.

Let me remind you that City SPANKED you 6-1 under similar circumstances. United rolled over and died that day. City outplayed United in the second half with 10 men and scored 2 goals.

Doesnt that worry you? That 10 men can outplay The mighty Man United? Face it, you're not as good as you once were.

The whole team gave everything. That's all you can ask for, but I doubt you can say the same when it was the other way around.

So you can't really make me feel less proud of City than I am. They showed more fight than United did in October. City gave an immense account of themselves, many people have said that.

3-2 ain't bad. And it's certainly not as humiliating as 6-1.

[yourmumsface17]

Eurrgh I get the feeling this is going to become a myth. City scored 2 fluky goals, a set piece and a mistake. United controlled the ball in the second half.

[santinomarella]

We're still in the FA Cup. End of.

[Tutankhamun]

If you're using 3-2 to try and upset me you're to going to get anywhere.

Let me remind you that City SPANKED you 6-1 under similar circumstances. United rolled over and died that day. City outplayed United in the second half with 10 men and scored 2 goals.

Doesnt that worry you? That 10 men can outplay The mighty Man United? Face it, you're not as good as you once were.

The whole team gave everything. That's all you can ask for, but I doubt you can say the same when it was the other way around.

So you can't really make me feel less proud of City than I am. They showed more fight than United did in October. City gave an immense account of themselves, many people have said that.

3-2 ain't bad. And it's certainly not as humiliating as 6-1.

Your only as good as your last game.

[dc89]

Your only as good as your last game.

Bodes well for United. Manage to scrape a win against 10 men for 80 minutes...

[Tutankhamun]

Bodes well for United. Manage to scrape a win against 10 men for 80 minutes...

The results counts, especially in a cup game. United did what was needed.

[yourmumsface17]

I think the way City set out in the 2nd half confused United a bit. 3-0 down in a cup game at half time, I think United expected City to come at them, and they didn't.

City took up a defensive formation and United almost didn't know what to do with the ball. City hit 2 sucker punches and almost nicked it. Fair play, but United got the result which was great. :)

[yourmumsface17]

If Arnie can be governor of California; Cantona can become president!

We need to rig this!

[manutdfan]

3-2.

[yourmumsface17]

FIFPro World XI 2011: Casillas; Ramos, Pique, Vidic, Alves; Iniesta, Xavi, Alonso; Ronaldo, Messi, Rooney.


Team of 11 comprising of 3 teams. Glad we got a couple in to spoil the Scottish league upgrade boys love in.

However I do miss the days England were dominanting Europe, certainly ended now :(

[jj03]

If you're using 3-2 to try and upset me you're to going to get anywhere.

Let me remind you that City SPANKED you 6-1 under similar circumstances. United rolled over and died that day. City outplayed United in the second half with 10 men and scored 2 goals.

Doesnt that worry you? That 10 men can outplay The mighty Man United? Face it, you're not as good as you once were.

The whole team gave everything. That's all you can ask for, but I doubt you can say the same when it was the other way around.

So you can't really make me feel less proud of City than I am. They showed more fight than United did in October. City gave an immense account of themselves, many people have said that.

3-2 ain't bad. And it's certainly not as humiliating as 6-1.

and let me remind you that when a bunch of arabs overtake a club and plow millions into it, you should expect progress...because before they arrived, you were going nowhere...still, as you are aware, i presume, we are full of injuries which makes the result even sweeter in light of all citys talent...we fucked ourselves up in the second half which gave opportunities. still, you lot can console yourselves with the fact that as your out of the cup, you can focus on the league now...3-2 and a big middle finger to city...

.

[three3-times]

If you're using 3-2 to try and upset me you're to going to get anywhere.

Let me remind you that City SPANKED you 6-1 under similar circumstances. United rolled over and died that day. City outplayed United in the second half with 10 men and scored 2 goals.

Doesnt that worry you? That 10 men can outplay The mighty Man United? Face it, you're not as good as you once were.

The whole team gave everything. That's all you can ask for, but I doubt you can say the same when it was the other way around.

So you can't really make me feel less proud of City than I am. They showed more fight than United did in October. City gave an immense account of themselves, many people have said that.

3-2 ain't bad. And it's certainly not as humiliating as 6-1.

Lol, what did i miss?!?!

Tbh, he has a point! we COULDVE went on and spanked them, but fergie fucked up. beating them just about 3-2, isnt as bad as 6-1 in the league

I was MAD AS HELL that citeh had us on the back foot all the 2nd half.

and its only the fa cup. i'll will suck cock, if we do them in the league

[three3-times]

Also good to see the best CB in the world in the fifa team of the year

[Tutankhamun]

Rooney committed to Sir Alex

"He's a great manager and is a big reason why I joined Manchester United. If I could finish my career playing under Sir Alex then I won't have gone far wrong.

"As I said before he is, in my eyes, the best ever. His success and his trophies speak for themselves. He's an incredible manager and has done so much for football and so much for my game as well.

Sky Sports (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7421012/)

[dc89]

3-2. http://thelionspitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/6-1.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02034/mancini_ap_2034935i.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/11/10/660x350/Edin-Dzeko-Manchester-City-Premier-League-Six_2669376.jpg

http://www.inthestands.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/fergie-500x340.jpg

[santinomarella]

Awww poor old DC, seems to have taken this defeat to United quite bad that he needs to bring up past results to make himself feel better. Bless.

[Tutankhamun]

I don't understand what relevance October has in January? Live in the now.

[dc89]

It could have very big significance come May.

[santinomarella]

I don't understand what relevance October has in January? Live in the now.

Has relevance in the league because every result matters but this recent Manchester derby was in the FA Cup, City lost but are still trying to make a City defeat look better than a United win. Which is why we're hearing about the 6-1 defeat. Couldn't care less if City had 9 men and dominated us for 89 minutes and we snatched a goal at the end, we would be through and they would be out.

Makes them seem like they're back to their small time days when they say they are the morals winners etc.. because they played well for 45 minutes with 10 men like they're the 1st team to do it. :lol:

[manutdfan]

19

Poor old douche c still upset about Sunday, constantly bringing up the 6-1.

Then doing a massive u turn over Rooney, trying to deflect from the 3-2 defeat.

3-2.

[yourmumsface17]

I mean is this when we post photos of Rooney's overhead kick with Ferguson smiling and Mancini looking down in the dumps?

I don't quite get what he is trying to accomplish?

[manutdfan]

I mean is this when we post photos of Rooney's overhead kick with Ferguson smiling and Mancini looking down in the dumps?

I don't quite get what he is trying to accomplish?

Yeah me to.

Pics of Owen scoring and Fergie dancing in front of Hughes and the look on Hughseys face.

[dc89]

19

Poor old douche c still upset about Sunday, constantly bringing up the 6-1.

Then doing a massive u turn over Rooney, trying to deflect from the 3-2 defeat.

3-2.

no need to call me names. I had to warn Shibby the other day for calling 33X names.

[manutdfan]

3-2

[yourmumsface17]

:lol: everyone loves a childish argument.

[gangsta_795]

Whoa dude chill out. City and United are two of the worlds best football clubs and we, as fans, have the responsibility to keep our club's reputation. Not by looking down upon other clubs but by treating our opponents in a respectable fashion.

[T0PGUN]

no need to call me names. I had to warn Shibby the other day for calling 33X names.
Yeah but its ok to warn the racist scousers, amirite?

[gangsta_795]

Yeah but its ok to warn the racist scousers, amirite?

I think we should just let Suarez be. He made a mistake; he got punished. Nothing is going to happen if we go on cribbing about it endlessly.

[yourmumsface17]

The phrase "City" and "worlds greatest football club" do not belong together. Lets never hear those words together again please ;)

[three3-times]

Lol, what did i miss?!?!

Tbh, he has a point! we COULDVE went on and spanked them, but fergie fucked up. beating them just about 3-2, isnt as bad as 6-1 in the league

I was MAD AS HELL that citeh had us on the back foot all the 2nd half.

and its only the fa cup. i'll will suck cock, if we do them in the league

i find it sad that you all take pride in beating citeh 3-2 in the fa cup, JUST bout. league is what matters

[yourmumsface17]

I think the way City set out in the 2nd half confused United a bit. 3-0 down in a cup game at half time, I think United expected City to come at them, and they didn't.

City took up a defensive formation and United almost didn't know what to do with the ball. City hit 2 sucker punches and almost nicked it. Fair play, but United got the result which was great. :)

Will quote myself to anwser your quote of yourself 3x :lol:

United switched off but got the job done.

[santinomarella]

i find it sad that you all take pride in beating citeh 3-2 in the fa cup, JUST bout. league is what matters

In the league you have the time to recover from bad results, in the FA Cup you do not, we got the job done. There is no goal difference in the cup, there is no points won or lost. It's getting the job done in 90 minutes of football, we did and knocked City out.

[Tutankhamun]

I would have been mad if we did go for a blowout when we clearly did not need to. We perhaps shouldn't have taken our foot of the gas as much as we did, but I think it was wise to save some energy for the upcoming games. We need to put together a string of wins in the league so when you are up 3-0 in HT I don't really see a point going for 6-0 when you have your work cut out for you in the next game.

[yourmumsface17]

On a brighter note (I'll whisper this before it all changes again) it seems players are starting to return from injury. Hopefully we can get the squad back together soon.

Rafael needs a game.

[mankind]

no need to call me names. I had to warn Shibby the other day for calling 33X names.

Yet its ok for you to troll in this thread?

[R3D D3V!L]

We also beat City in the Community Shield. We were 2-0 down as well. :D

[mankind]

That scumbag Kompany got his appeal dismissed, what a dirty fucking cunt he is.

[yourmumsface17]

That scumbag Kompany got his appeal dismissed, what a dirty fucking cunt he is.

I'd have been suprised if it was a successful appeal, would have encouraged more appeals for 2 footed challenges and opened the floodgates.

[yourmumsface17]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf9SOUOiNHQ&feature=player_embedded#!

Danny Welbeck v Van Nistelrooy - look how young Danny looks :lol:

I think that's Larnell Cole about to go next too.

[Tutankhamun]

Paul Scholes' second coming will be a winning gamble

But, at no cost, he has added a playmaker who is the tried and tested real deal when it comes to Manchester United class. It is a no-brainer.

The capability to use Scholes as a bit-part player for the rest of the campaign has ensured there is no need to panic buy and waste cash on inferior signings not immediately up to the Reds’ level.



Manchester Evening News (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1470155_paul-scholes-second-coming-will-be-a-winning-gamble?rss=yes)

I agree 100%.

[yourmumsface17]

Suprised the FA didn't add a game on to Kompany for a frivolous appeal like they did for Rio before...

[three3-times]

Suprised the FA didn't add a game on to Kompany for a frivolous appeal like they did for Rio before...

yeah this!!!

also, RAFA does needs a game, he is fit now and should be playing and is our best PROPER RB!!!!!

clevz wont be back till end of the month.

evans is a 1/2 weeks away.

Anyone else a lil worried about javier, he seems to me to add more to his game........cos atm, the best partnerships is welbz/wazza

[three3-times]

i dont mean to be so negative guys, but thats just how i am. i demand and expect the best from us.

[yourmumsface17]

:lol: well there wouldn't be any posts if everyone agreed on everything ;)


also, RAFA does needs a game, he is fit now and should be playing and is our best PROPER RB!!!!!

Yeah he is pretty much are only proper RB (Although IMO Fabio has been better than him, where is Fabio?)


clevz wont be back till end of the month.



Don't have the exact quotes but I think Fergie said recently that Young and Cleverley won't be for another month, I believe he said Cleverley back in training in 2 weeks.


Anyone else a lil worried about javier, he seems to me to add more to his game........cos atm, the best partnerships is welbz/wazza

I agree with this, Hernandez can be sloppy sometimes, he will work on it and get better over time I have no doubt about that. We're lucky we have Welbz :D (Check out the vid I posted of a young Danny Welb)

[yourmumsface17]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXelH6vyKo&feature=player_embedded#!

[T0PGUN]

That scumbag Kompany got his appeal dismissed, what a dirty fucking cunt he is.
Good.
Spearings wasnt rescinded

[Tutankhamun]

The video of Welbeck and Ruud was awesome. Pure gold. That really gives you appreciation and gratitude for players when they've been with the club since they we're a child. It is fun and exciting to watch bought, fully developed, stars, sure, but it is truly special to watch players like Welbeck that has lived with the club for all their life more or less.

[dc89]

That scumbag Kompany got his appeal dismissed, what a dirty fucking cunt he is.

Yeah. He's a awful tackler and a awful centre back. So bad that United were going to buy him just before City did. God damn he's terrible. Give me Rio any day please.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah. He's a awful tackler and a awful centre back. So bad that United were going to buy him just before City did. God damn he's terrible. Give me Rio any day please.

Prove it.

Dc you are very touchy today :lol:

[dc89]

Prove it.

Dc you are very touchy today :lol:

Sorry, you tried in 2003 and failed.

http://www.redcafe.net/f9/vincent-kompany-34605/

And United really can't talk about 'thugs' with some of the players they've had over the last decade. Do I really need to post some pictures?

[yourmumsface17]

Oh a thread on Recafe, with articles wit 0 quotes. Oh that is truth... Oh...

I think 03 isn't "just before City did" either

I can also confirm United defo made a big for Lampard about a week ago using redcafe quotes...

...and what is it with you and pictures today? :lol:

[dc89]

The thread does have quotes from articles in it?

And yes that's why I said sorry. I can admit when I am wrong you know.

[yourmumsface17]

The video of Welbeck and Ruud was awesome. Pure gold. That really gives you appreciation and gratitude for players when they've been with the club since they we're a child. It is fun and exciting to watch bought, fully developed, stars, sure, but it is truly special to watch players like Welbeck that has lived with the club for all their life more or less.

Yeah that's what I thought! Shows how far they must come, and how they must have identified him at such a young age. Incidentally apparently Welbeck was rejected by City.

[yourmumsface17]

The thread does have quotes from articles in it?

I mean the articles themselves don't have any quotes in, just mindless 2+2 = 5- United were linked with something like 500 million (I can't quite remember the figure) of talent last summer, funnily enough they may have not been interested in all of them :lol:

I'm not even certain what we are debating. I think Kompany is a fantastic player.

[dc89]

Yeah but you didn't sign any of them cause there is no value in the market :snicker

I jest. Jones is good.

[yourmumsface17]

Yeah but you didn't sign any of them cause there is no value in the market :snicker

I jest. Jones is good.

:lol:

[dc89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=gZJn4UgpjY4

*coughs*

[yourmumsface17]

Rooneys = one footed. It was dangerous challenge though!

I mean we could go round in circles and look for clips of each others teams committing dangerous tackles. We have nothing to gain from this.

[manutdfan]

We got Bolton next at OT lets get all 3 points...


Yeah but its ok to warn the racist scousers, amirite?

Be gone ugly troll!

[Suley]

Be gone ugly troll!

Was that really needed?

[T0PGUN]

We got Bolton next at OT lets get all 3 points...



Be gone ugly troll!
http://i56.tinypic.com/4j82fd.jpg

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uh oh.....

[Tutankhamun]

Hernandez happy on learning curve

“I think each year it is going to be more difficult. This season, and in future seasons, defenders and the other coaches are going to know more about me."



ManUtd.com (http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Jan/javier-hernandez-still-enjoying-difficult-second-season.aspx)

I always thought his second season would be tougher. It is for most players.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/10/roberto-mancini-liverpool-luis-suarez

i cant hate him, even if he did whoop us 6-1

[dc89]

That's the good thing about Mancini, he like Wenger will always give his opinion. If a question is asked, he doesn't dodge it. I remember when the media wanted him to sweat a bit over Tevez and where he was. His answer was honest, "He's in Argentina playing golf and we are here, this is not important. He is not one of us".

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2085045/Ravel-Morrison-set-leave-Manchester-United.html

Looks like Morrison could genuinely be on his way out. Look what Rio has Tweeted this morning:

rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Certain kids need their heads banging, they don't see what they got within reach, if only they FOCUSED 100%. Fix up, Make It Count.

[Tutankhamun]

Eric Harrison: Paul Scholes’ return to action will boost Manchester United - and help the club’s young guns progress

Eric Harrison, the mastermind behind United’s famous class of 92, says the veteran midfielder’s reintroduction to the fold will lift United – and provide a boost, rather than a barrier, to the young pretenders hoping their time had come when Scholes stepped down last year.

Manchester Evening News (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1470296_eric-harrison-paul-scholes-return-to-action-will-boost-manchester-united---and-help-the-clubs-young-guns-progress?rss=yes)

Don't miss his thoughts on Cleverley later in the article.

[Metal Warrior]

That's the good thing about Mancini, he like Wenger will always give his opinion. If a question is asked, he doesn't dodge it. I remember when the media wanted him to sweat a bit over Tevez and where he was. His answer was honest, "He's in Argentina playing golf and we are here, this is not important. He is not one of us".

Like Wenger? Wenger only gives his honest opinion if it's got nothing to do with his own team. Anything against his own team and he "didn't see it". Now every manager is like that a bit, but Wenger's especially bad in that area. There's protecting your own players and there's just being silly (see also: Kenny Dalglish).

But I've said it before in the City thread: Mancini has class. He's media friendly in a Mourinho way but without the arrogance and pettiness. Like Mourinho though, I probably only like him because he seems particularly respectful towards Manchester United and Fergie. Mourinho's dislike of Liverpool and Benitez was definately a plus, so it'd be nice if Mancini took the same road. :lol:

Maybe he sees City as a stepping stone. :mrgreen:

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That's the good thing about Mancini, he like Wenger will always give his opinion. If a question is asked, he doesn't dodge it. I remember when the media wanted him to sweat a bit over Tevez and where he was. His answer was honest, "He's in Argentina playing golf and we are here, this is not important. He is not one of us".

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2085045/Ravel-Morrison-set-leave-Manchester-United.html

Looks like Morrison could genuinely be on his way out. Look what Rio has Tweeted this morning:

rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Certain kids need their heads banging, they don't see what they got within reach, if only they FOCUSED 100%. Fix up, Make It Count.

Mancini has class.

As for Ravel........thats own fault. "shakes head"

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i couldve swore i saw a interview from fergie saying his contract has an option to extn for a year? same as pogba?

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah I think they both do. Perhaps they would chose to sell him if he refuses to sign a new contract but I kind of doubt it.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8962269/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-warns-Paul-Pogba-not-to-let-greed-wreck-his-Manchester-United-career.html

this one says about Pogba and the option......

[three3-times]

cant find one about Ravel though, however on football manager, both their contracts run till 2013!!!! lol

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Rios tweet is about t's about the fucking drug bust in his restaurant yesterday, from one of the young chefs who stored a load of weed at Rio's place, 'Rosso'.


i think?!

[yourmumsface17]

I like Mancini, sort of, I don't like some of his recent hypocrisy "Oh Rooney how dare you get my player sent off" *proceeds to wave imaginary cards*

He's alright though.


Dear all,

I appealed because I obviously completely disagreed with the interpretation of the officials on the day but that happens in football and we move on. I wonder though if we are now going to see an unprecedented wave of red cards on match days because we sanction "if's" and "maybe's"? Are we going to look back at video evidence for every single challenge that goes unnoticed by the officials, look at different scenarios and potential outcomes of what could have been considered a good tackle and then sanction it? Players and managers are starting to expect more sending offs from referees and I think it's for the wrong reasons. My understanding is that English football prides itself on the hardness, the fairness and the tradition of its game. That is why hundreds of millions of people tune in to watch Premier League football and English referees have always been a key factor to that success in my opinion. So I don't agree with people saying that referees in this country aren't doing well as I think they are the best in the world. Hopefully common sense will prevail again in the future and I for one hope not to see consistency in sending offs and suspensions when the intent of a player is to win the ball.

I'd like to add to this that I waited for the suspension to be confirmed before making any comments on the matter as I didn't want to give the impression that I was using the media as a tool to benefit my own personal agenda in this case. I'm not speaking on behalf of the club or anybody else, this isn't me defending myself, this is just me raising a genuine concern.

If football fans decide I'm wrong in raising these concerns then I will have no problem in accepting the fact that times are changing again for our game.

Vincent Kompany.

Hmmm so he must have been furious with Mancini waving the charades card? I mean Rooney only said "2 foot" but lets ignore that.

I don't get how waving the imaginary card is any different than shouting "IT'S A YELLOW/RED!" anyway. Evra did it when Downing committed a blatant (and I mean blatant, can probably retreive a GIF if anyone wants) dive and got away with it. I remember the commentator then critcising him, but he just recevied the wrong, why shouldn't he ask for him to be punished; however that is just one for instance, and sometimes asking for cards is stupid, but I don't see how pretending to wave a card is different from shouting "red" at the ref.

[Metal Warrior]

Speechless at that Kompany statement really, yet another victim. You went in two-footed you absolute weapon, you got the punishment you risked (not necessarily what you deserved as Souness so accurately put it), so take it like a fucking man and sit it out. If Nani hadn't jumped that's his season finished right there. Learn from it and don't make tackles like that in the future.

If there's one thing I absolutely fucking hate in a player it's his complete inability to accept responsibility for his actions.

" I for one hope not to see consistency in sending offs and suspensions when the intent of a player is to win the ball."

How can some of these thick cunts still fail to understand that the end doesn't justify the means in these instances. You can get the ball and near enough chop off a players leg in a single tackle if you just go flying in. You're not the only human being on the pitch, you can play hard all you want as long as you don't endanger the health of other players. You could just end their season if you misjudge such a wild tackle so use some common sense. That's why you're banned you tool.

[yourmumsface17]

Loving the extreme post haha!

Yeah he ran the risk and got sent off. Simple as that.

[Firefox]

It's just like the idiots who were defending Shawcross.. the intention doesn't freaking matter.. what matters is the outcome of the tackle and what you did. In Kompany's case well it's two footed. Not even "hard tacklers" like Song or Vermaelen do those kinds of dangerous plays.

His statements just make him sound like more of a self-entitled douchebag.

[Tutankhamun]

Liverpool – Racism: A Timeline of Events (http://sc1sports.com/liverpool-racism-a-timeline-of-events/)

Via @yolkie_ (https://twitter.com/#!/yolkie_/status/157169932067540993)

Fascinating read of the disgraceful behavior from Liverpool.

[santinomarella]

Morrison said on his Twitter that there is no contract offer to talk about.

[Tutankhamun]

That's can wonderfully be interpreted in several ways. Not a person whom communicates clearly, Ravel.

[LC77]

and its only the fa cup. i'll will suck cock, if we do them in the league

And I nominate DC to be on the receiving end of that offer. :lol:

[santinomarella]

That's can wonderfully be interpreted in several ways. Not a person whom communicates clearly, Ravel.

Yeah true. But I think what he's responding to is the rumours that contract negotiations with United have stalled.

[Tutankhamun]

Yeah true. But I think what he's responding to is the rumours that contract negotiations with United have stalled.

Yeah probably. If so, that's better news than the Daily Mail article claiming that talks have stalked. We'll see how this turns out, if I had to bet I think he'll stay at United. The media always blows things out of proportion.

[Firefox]

Ravel Morrison a Barcelona target? :lol: He'd fit in with Chelsea or City more like.

manutdfan is also a very rich man have you seen the posh area he lives in? :p Or actually it might not be posh and just because I'm Canadian.