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M._Bison
03-07-2008, 04:02
Warning: If you can't take it like a man/woman, don't watch this video.

http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentID=463231

furby
03-07-2008, 04:25
Someone was telling me about this today. I am disgusted.

Uncool
03-07-2008, 04:29
I'd chuck his ass into a semi-truck. Lets see how bloody he gets.

SnakeDevil
03-07-2008, 04:29
That was sick. I'm not much of an animal lover, but what the soldier did was inexcusable and he should be punished.

N.HalesLegacy
03-07-2008, 04:37
I posted about this yesterday and it got deleted

Tribunal
03-07-2008, 04:47
Well after watching the video tons of times I'm not really upset he threw the dog, it was wrong no doubt. But he'll get punished by his NCOs no doubt, shoot and his COs. You just don't film that kinda stuff, the only thing I'm upset about now is that he was dumb enough to do it in Uniform, and make us all look bad...

N.HalesLegacy
03-07-2008, 04:50
The guy needs to be shot for it

C.T.E.
03-07-2008, 04:52
This one's going to end up in the trash like the other thread.

Tyrien
03-07-2008, 04:54
The guy needs to be shot for it
By that logic you should be shot for actually considering that there's an actual just cause in taking another human being's life.

No one ever deserves to be shot, sorry.

Tribunal
03-07-2008, 04:55
*sigh* this is why the other thread was trashed, this crap about shooting someone. =S

N.HalesLegacy
03-07-2008, 04:57
By that logic you should be shot for actually considering that there's an actual just cause in taking another human being's life.

No one ever deserves to be shot, sorry.


oh theres many just causes for someone to have their life taken away. Theres many just causes for some to get worse then death. hell i would have shot the guy myself if I was there.

Black
03-07-2008, 04:58
I could have sworn someone else made that comment justifying someone else being shot. We're going in circles...

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 05:00
I can see him getting thrown off that cliff... He'll get punished for that, and if he doesn't I'm sure someone will step up and show him something.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 05:43
I can see him getting thrown off that cliff... He'll get punished for that, and if he doesn't I'm sure someone will step up and show him something.

I hope to God you're right. Someone needs to take this ******* down. Someone needs to make this guy feel like ****. Hopefully then he'll take his own life so we don't have to deal with him anymore.

****, I can't believe these people are breathing the same air as me. People like this guy.

Thinks he's a big man? He thinks he's tough because he can throw a defenceless animal off a cliff? I doubt he'd feel like such a 'man' if he were faced with me.

Black
03-07-2008, 05:50
I hope to God you're right. Someone needs to take this ******* down. Someone needs to make this guy feel like ****. Hopefully then he'll take his own life so we don't have to deal with him anymore.

****, I can't believe these people are breathing the same air as me. People like this guy.
Look at what you're typing. Hasn't war done enough to damage his state of mind? Do you understand what war can do to an average soldier? It breaks them apart and basically gives them nightmares and eerie flashbacks for the rest of their life. So don't mouth off about how someone should make this guy feel like a **** when he sees **** everytime he goes into battle. I'm not defending his actions, just to let you know. Just pointing out how arrogant and blatantly pissed off you are seeing as how you aren't in his position.

Oh and while you're at it, saying how someone should take his life. Let's say someone does take his life.You can personally go to his parents house and tell them that there son has been killed in a time of war. The other guy was right, you shouldn't tell anyone that they should get shot, much less take their lives away from them. Please think before you speak. It's bad enough his parents are receiving death threats.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 05:57
Look at what you're typing. Hasn't war done enough to damage his state of mind? Do you understand what war can do to an average soldier? It breaks them apart and basically gives them nightmares and eerie flashbacks for the rest of their life. So don't mouth off about how someone should make this guy feel like a **** when he sees **** everytime he goes into battle. I'm not defending his actions, just to let you know. Just pointing out how arrogant and blatantly pissed off you are seeing as how you aren't in his position.

Hah. Most of the time these soldiers don't do SQUAT, so don't give me that. You've watched Rambo too many times.

Black
03-07-2008, 05:59
Hah. Most of the time these soldiers don't do SQUAT, so don't give me that. You've watched Rambo too many times.
How can you even manage to say that? Have you ever been in a war, much less around other soldiers?

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:02
Hah. Most of the time these soldiers don't do SQUAT, so don't give me that. You've watched Rambo too many times.

Sounds like an easy job and quick way to retirement then. Why haven't you enlisted? Oh, ok.

It must be easy saying that from the comfort of your own home in a country that lets you.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:02
How can you even manage to say that? Have you ever been in a war, much less around other soldiers?

Yes, I've known many people who've served, even in the gulf war.

Have you?


Sounds like an easy job and quick way to retirement then. Why haven't you enlisted? Oh, ok.

It must be easy saying that from the comfort of your own home in a country that lets you.

Uhh, maybe because I want a good respectable career? Maybe because I can achieve more than being a lowly grunt who spends his time hanging out at barracks staring at cheap porn?

Besides, my ideals for war are at odds with the country in which I live.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:06
Yes, I've known many people who've served, even in the gulf war.

Have you?



Uhh, maybe because I want a good respectable career? Maybe because I can achieve more than being a lowly grunt who spends his time hanging out at barracks staring at cheap porn?

Besides, my ideals for war are at odds with the country in which I live.

Yeah, you're well on your way to all of that, I can see.

Black
03-07-2008, 06:08
Yes, I've known many people who've served, even in the gulf war.

Have you?
My father served in the gulf war and my grandfather served and witness some crazy s*** in World War II. Oh, and I forgot to mention that I have have one friend who even thought of going to enlist and fight in the Iraq war. Good thing I convinced him otherwise, seeing as how he'd most likely end up six feet under with his whole life crushed before his very eyes.

It doesn't matter what soldiers have done. The fact is that there's always a reason behind their actions.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:08
Yeah, you're well on your way to all of that, I can see.

What the hell are you even talking about? You're just talking BS for the sake of it now. You can't see **** about me.


It doesn't matter what soldiers have done. The fact is that there's always a reason behind their actions.

Oh snap, you did NOT just say that.

I've seen video footage of Isreali soldiers opening fire on unarmed civilians.

Explain that, mister war vet.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:14
What the hell are you even talking about? You're just talking BS for the sake of it now. You can't see **** about me.



Oh snap, you did NOT just say that.

I've seen video footage of Isreali soldiers opening fire on unarmed civilians.

Explain that, mister war vet.

I see all I need to see. It doesn't matter how respectable your job is, when the man behind the job title is a joke. A good example of this would be a Priest that touches little boys. Respectable career, didn't matter much in the end though.


Like I said, I can see how you're going to fit right in with a respectable field.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:17
I see all I need to see. It doesn't matter how respectable your job is, when the man behind the job title is a joke. A good example of this would be a Priest that touches little boys. Respectable career, didn't matter much in the end though.


Like I said, I can see how you're going to fit right in with a respectable field.

Is this guy for real? Is he seriously comparing me to a pedophile? Does he seriously think he knows me?

You only talk like that because I don't know where you live.

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 06:18
He lives in Texas, have fun with that.

Don't make me close this thread too because your all flexing your e-muscles...

Black
03-07-2008, 06:19
Oh snap, you did NOT just say that.

I've seen video footage of Isreali soldiers opening fire on unarmed civilians.

Explain that, mister war vet.
If you can't explain it yourself, then you have no reason to ask me. And what you just said is common stuff that's been going down in every war. It happens all the time, dating all the way back to World War I.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:20
If you can't explain it yourself, then you have no reason to ask me. And what you just said is common stuff that's been going down in every war. It happens all the time, dating all the way back to World War I.

So what's your point? Like I said, people can be assholes. There's not always a good reason for what they do, despite your arguments for the opposite.

Take DaveW for example. He just went all cranky on me for no reason whatsoever. He started talking crap about someone he knows nothing about. He started talking about my future career, which I am working very hard for, and how he "sees" my character, deeming it unfit through sarcastic opposites.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:24
Is this guy for real? Is he seriously comparing me to a pedophile? Does he seriously think he knows me?

You only talk like that because I don't know where you live.

If you want my address, just let me know. I'm taken though, so don't expect any gratuities.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:25
If you want my address, just let me know. I'm taken though, so don't expect any gratuities.

I'm not flying over to Texas for you.

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 06:25
If you kill Dave, I'll take his girl.

Black
03-07-2008, 06:27
So what's your point? Like I said, people can be assholes. There's not always a good reason for what they do, despite your arguments for the opposite.

Take DaveW for example. He just went all cranky on me for no reason whatsoever. He started talking crap about someone he knows nothing about. He started talking about my future career, which I am working very hard for, and how he "sees" my character, deeming it unfit through sarcastic opposites.
Aren't you doing the same yourself? You're talking about a soldier you know nothing about except for the field day media reports that are going around in the news. You just made yourself sound like a hypocrite by saying someone is talking about you when they know nothing about you and you made yourself sound like an ********* by telling people the soldier should be shot and that he should experience s*** as punishment. I'm not going to reply to you anymore seeing as how you have a very dim perspective on the soldiers of war. You're entitled to you own opinion but people are throwing it back at you, sorry to say.

That's all. Good night, I don't have to say anymore on the subject.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:29
I'm not flying over to Texas for you.

Then don't act like a tough guy, "Oh, you're just big because I don't know where you live!"

No, I'm just big because I know you're about as threatening as a dead guy floating in Lake Michigan.


If you kill Dave, I'll take his girl.

I'm sure you would, Fenny, I'm sure you would.

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 06:32
You wouldn't even have to be dead. :P

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:35
Aren't you doing the same yourself? You're talking about a soldier you know nothing about except for the field day media reports that are going around in the news. You just made yourself sound like a hypocrite by saying someone is talking about you when they know nothing about you and you made yourself sound like an ********* by telling people the soldier should be shot and that he should experience s*** as punishment. I'm not going to reply to you anymore seeing as how you have a very dim perspective on the soldiers of war. You're entitled to you own opinion but people are throwing it back at you, sorry to say.

That's all. Good night, I don't have to say anymore on the subject.

Aha. There's a difference between me and him, you see, because there is a god**** video of this guy throwing a helpless animal off a cliffside.

I know enough about this guy to say what I **** well please about him.


No, I'm just big because I know you're about as threatening as a dead guy floating in Lake Michigan. So you're only big when faced with something harmless?
My point was that you wouldn't be talking to me, or anyone like this if they were standing before you. So it's you who's trying to act tough, not me. You're the one who's pretending to be able to say things they otherwise wouldn't.

Shadowfyre
03-07-2008, 06:37
You wouldn't even have to be dead. :P

Is she hot? :D

Anyways, have I ever explained why I love waffles so much? :P

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:38
Aha. There's a difference between me and him, you see, because there is a god**** video of this guy throwing a helpless animall off a cliffside.

I know enough about this guy to say what I **** well please about him.

And I have 105 more pieces of evidence than you do of him so say what I **** well please about you.

So I guess I'm justified.

lazyb
03-07-2008, 06:40
Wow, unfortunately any time war is brought up it churns up the divide between people.

On the topic, I dont think he should be shot, but I do hope one day, when his kids want a dog and his wife brings home a little puppy, he's gonna look at it and feel like a scumbag, rightly so aswell.

And I havent even seen the video, to be honest I wouldnt want to, I cant quite get my head around someone who would do that.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:40
And I have 105 more pieces of evidence than you do of him so say what I **** well please about you.

So I guess I'm justified.

This post is unfortunately incoherent.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:41
So you're only big when faced with something harmless?
My point was that you wouldn't be talking to me, or anyone like this if they were standing before you. So it's you who's trying to act tough, not me. You're the one who's pretending to be able to say things they otherwise wouldn't.

LOL - You obviously know absolutely nothing about me then. Fenwick, do you get the impression when we talk outside the forum, that I'm the type of person to keep my mouth shut despite whose standing in front of me? LOL

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 06:41
Is she hot? :D



She's a cutie... And funny too...

Black
03-07-2008, 06:42
you wouldn't be talking to me, or anyone like this if they were standing before you..
The word of the day is "hypocrite". You wouldn't do the same if he was standing before you.


I know enough about this guy to say what I **** well please about him.
You sure do. That's why you like pointing out the bad things about the person, especially from the comforts of your cozy little home where you're miles away from where the event took place.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:42
LOL - You obviously know absolutely nothing about me then. Fenwick, do you get the impression when we talk outside the forum, that I'm the type of person to keep my mouth shut despite whose standing in front of me? LOL

Hey, you jump to conclusions about me, I'm allowed to do the same, no?


The word of the day is "hypocrite". You wouldn't do the same if he was standing before you.Except there's one problem with this. DaveW initiated the whole thing. It's true, I don't initiate arguments in real life. But by God I stand up for myself, and I've no shame in saying that I've stood up to many people, of all different descriptions, and many all at the same time.

Dave
03-07-2008, 06:43
Hey, you jump to conclusions about me, I'm allowed to do the same, no?

I didn't jump to any conclusions about you. I can safely say that there is little reason to respect you despite what line of work you choose. I don't care if you cure AIDS, my stance will remain the same.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:45
I didn't jump to any conclusions about you. I can safely say that there is little reason to respect you despite what line of work you choose. I don't care if you cure AIDS, my stance will remain the same.

Logic error.


Blah blah blah.

MrFenwick
03-07-2008, 06:45
Your all a bunch of pansies with your hands in your pants trying to grasp whats not there.

Just let it go peoples...

Uncool
03-07-2008, 06:51
The guy should be reprimanded without a doubt but to have him execute himself? He will most likely get court Marshalled for this.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:52
The guy should be reprimanded without a doubt but to have him execute himself? He will most likely get court Marshalled for this.

A reprimand isn't enough. There is either something very wrong with this person, or he is just plain heartless, and evil. Did you see that shrug and smile at the end?

Uncool
03-07-2008, 06:54
That depends, even the purest of souls will get tainted if he/she is surrounded by death and destruction. Cynicism knows no bounds and war isn't an exception.

Black
03-07-2008, 06:58
A reprimand isn't enough. There is either something very wrong with this person, or he is just plain heartless, and evil. Did you see that shrug and smile at the end?
There have been more severe cases in war that are much more serious than having a soldier kick/throw/hurl/whatever a dog off a cliff. Have you heard about the one where the teenager who played Counter Strike before joining up in the military ended up raping an Iraqi mother and child when he was off-duty? I'm surprised people ignore that but jump on the bandwagon when they hear about an animal being hurled or kicked off a cliff. War paints an ugly picture. The news (CNN and FOX) glamorizes it for the sake of exploitation. There have been more severe cases, people.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 06:59
That depends, even the purest of souls will get tainted if he/she is surrounded by death and destruction. Cynicism knows no bounds and war isn't an exception.

I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe that he was a nice guy to begin with. Maybe, maybe he wouldn't have thrown a puppy off a cliff before he went to war (this is assuming he's seen some pretty bad stuff), I can bet you my bottom dollar he was an ******* jerk before he went in.

And to Blacksite09

Yes, I know, there's much, much worse going on, but I can't get many videos on those posted here.

Uncool
03-07-2008, 07:02
You wouldn't really know unless your were there to experience what they are going through. No word I can ever type or news source your reading can ever add up to the real experience and more so the psyche effect of war.

Black
03-07-2008, 07:04
You wouldn't really know unless your were there to experience what they are going through. No word I can ever type or news source your reading can ever add up to the real experience and more so the psyche effect of war.
+rep for you, Uncool. This is what I was trying to get across earlier.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 07:11
Except that we can draw sensible conclusions, or make educated presumptions.

For example, you argue that it is possible that this man isn't an ******* because he has been changed by trauma. I argue the opposite (not necessarily that war can't change people, but that this guy is an idiot, no matter what led him to the point of being an idiot. No matter what road you take to disneyland, you're still at disneyland, right?). Neither is impossible, but we both arrive at our own conclusions through some kind of reasoning. I'm not just saying "this guy is 100% evil" without arriving at some kind of conclusion based on rational thought. Same for you.

I just happen to believe that this individual is a butt. You happen to believe he was affected by war. Neither are out of the question.

DayWalker
03-07-2008, 07:13
what do you care what he thinks of you?

for all you know he's a fat pasty white 35 year old living in his parents basement.

Black
03-07-2008, 07:20
what do you care what he thinks of you?

for all you know he's a fat pasty white 35 year old living in his parents basement.
...who just so happens to write articles for PSU and attends college. That's DaveW.

DayWalker
03-07-2008, 07:22
:lol:

yes just an example...

but being in college and writing for a nerd site doesn't mean your approval is to be sought...

just sayin. :cool:

Serjndestroy
03-07-2008, 08:47
What a self-substantiating thread.. Almost as good as the "People post on forums!" one from a while back.

I do not see how anyone can be really shocked or surprised at this. If you are going to train a group of people to kill other people on command, you cannot expect them to return in the same mental state as before. If the life of a man is only worth the word of a "higher authority", what would the life of an animal be, in comparison?

Of course it is not universal, or acceptable, or justifiable, nor is it what the military "stands for", it is just that the human psyche has a huge capacity for cruelty, which is very sensitive to encouragement.

Idenowhereiam
03-07-2008, 08:52
i'm sorry but why is this becoming a national scandal?.. theres plenty of demented kids out there who kill small animals and none of their problems make headlines..

so some dude killed a puppy.. fine him and lets move on..

miamiman
03-07-2008, 08:59
Is she hot? :D

Anyways, have I ever explained why I love waffles so much? :P

I think you did but I don't remember. Tell us again would you??

Mael Duin
03-07-2008, 09:11
i'm sorry but why is this becoming a national scandal?.. theres plenty of demented kids out there who kill small animals and none of their problems make headlines..

so some dude killed a puppy.. fine him and lets move on..
Because of one site which name shall not be said. They just want to ruin this guys life.

M._Bison
03-07-2008, 13:31
Because of one site which name shall not be said. They just want to ruin this guys life.

I hope they achieve their' aim.

N.HalesLegacy
03-07-2008, 13:32
there is no excuse for what this ********* did and this war is no where near as bad as previous ones. Most of these guys dont even see much action. And even if they did, it doesn't turn you into serial killers and animal torturorers. *********s like this guy was like this before joining the military.

like I said, guys like him I have no remorse for and I hope does get shot. Doesn't matter what you do. The guy could have saved a thousand kids from a fire. Does not excuse him from his other actions. This goes for anyone.

AzRim
03-07-2008, 13:43
Look at what you're typing. Hasn't war done enough to damage his state of mind? Do you understand what war can do to an average soldier? It breaks them apart and basically gives them nightmares and eerie flashbacks for the rest of their life. So don't mouth off about how someone should make this guy feel like a **** when he sees **** everytime he goes into battle. I'm not defending his actions, just to let you know. Just pointing out how arrogant and blatantly pissed off you are seeing as how you aren't in his position.

Oh and while you're at it, saying how someone should take his life. Let's say someone does take his life.You can personally go to his parents house and tell them that there son has been killed in a time of war. The other guy was right, you shouldn't tell anyone that they should get shot, much less take their lives away from them. Please think before you speak. It's bad enough his parents are receiving death threats.

I dont think war is the reason for this, he is just a dumbass. I grew up in a war, in Bosnia if you heard about it, and I dont throw dogs off cliffs. And I can promise you I've seen a lot of sick stuff.

Uncool
03-07-2008, 19:01
Because of one site which name shall not be said. They just want to ruin this guys life.
Its breakcom so I am not really surprised. Of course everyone in the media loves public stonings and everyone here is just as sickened yet entranced by it as well.


I dont think war is the reason for this, he is just a dumbass. I grew up in a war, in Bosnia if you heard about it, and I dont throw dogs off cliffs. And I can promise you I've seen a lot of sick stuff.

You don't need to tell me that, in the Philippines people we getting killed by retarded jeep drivers in crowded streets in broad daylight. Yet people move on with their lives.:suspect:

Its a bit of both, he's an idiot and messed up because of his prolonged stay over there.

RedOrb_Collector
03-08-2008, 01:41
Look at what you're typing. Hasn't war done enough to damage his state of mind? Do you understand what war can do to an average soldier? It breaks them apart and basically gives them nightmares and eerie flashbacks for the rest of their life. So don't mouth off about how someone should make this guy feel like a **** when he sees **** everytime he goes into battle. I'm not defending his actions, just to let you know. Just pointing out how arrogant and blatantly pissed off you are seeing as how you aren't in his position.


Your excuse for this sick mother ****er's behavior is quite weak.


Soldiers are by and large meant to be upstanding honorable citizens, and the majority of them are.

This mother****er is just sick in the head, I can not attribute his state of mind to anything other than him simply being that way regardless of his career field.

DayWalker
03-08-2008, 01:43
I'll say it again...

don't automatically give this guy the "war fatigue" excuse.

There are plenty of assholes in the US military... he could easily just be an *******.

there's a good chance that he's just as ****ed up in the head now as he was when he joined up.

Black
03-08-2008, 01:46
If he is f***ed up in the head (even before he enlisted into the military) then he shouldn't even be serving in the military. Don't they have psychological/mental exams during recruitment?

GuitarrassDeAmor
03-08-2008, 01:48
Thats freaking messed up. What the hell?

DayWalker
03-08-2008, 01:49
If he is f***ed up in the head (even before he enlisted into the military) then he shouldn't even be serving in the military. Don't they have psychological/mental exams during recruitment?

:lol:

yeah cuz they screen really really well in the military :lol:

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 01:52
They already figure you're crazy before you join the marines, it wont matter eitherway, you'll be crazy in 18 weeks after joining anyhow.

Black
03-08-2008, 01:57
They already figure you're crazy before you join the marines, it wont matter eitherway, you'll be crazy in 18 weeks after joining anyhow.
The marines would break this guy. They're much tougher than the Army.

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 02:00
The marines would break this guy. They're much tougher than the Army.

Well the marines are going to break this guy, but he is infact a Marine. Not the Army.

Black
03-08-2008, 02:07
Well the marines are going to break this guy, but he is infact a Marine. Not the Army.
Wait, he's a marine? That makes it much worse. I thought he was in the Army.

bobabooy?
03-08-2008, 02:30
Fake, I dont think that was real at all but maybe it was becuase it was poor quality

StoneyPS3
03-08-2008, 02:34
If that's true I hope the taliban chuck him off a cliff...My dog just got put down a couple of days ago. What a ass.

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 02:40
If he is f***ed up in the head (even before he enlisted into the military) then he shouldn't even be serving in the military. Don't they have psychological/mental exams during recruitment?
Boot camp is a huge stress test/brain washing game. Not everyone succumbs to it though. I feel bad for those that do.

Therefore, you don't have to be a nut job beforehand to be one afterward :p

DayWalker
03-08-2008, 02:43
Boot camp is a huge stress test/brain washing game. Not everyone succumbs to it though. I feel bad for those that do.

Therefore, you don't have to be a nut job beforehand to be one afterward :p

oh come on!!!!!!

boot camp is a really long football camp...

its not easy... but if you can't get through it without losing your mind then something is really really wrong.

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 02:44
My friend came out of the Marines, and he's crazy now. Thankfully I'm still bigger than him and can beat him up. But he's always wanting to fight.

DayWalker
03-08-2008, 02:55
My friend came out of the Marines, and he's crazy now. Thankfully I'm still bigger than him and can beat him up. But he's always wanting to fight.

i have a buddy in there too...

he's not crazy... but he will **** you and anyone else up if you give him a reason to :lol:

that's what the military does... instills a superior sense of badassness...

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 03:01
oh come on!!!!!!

boot camp is a really long football camp...

its not easy... but if you can't get through it without losing your mind then something is really really wrong.

Well, I disagree about the football camp part, but agree with the rest.


My friend came out of the Marines, and he's crazy now. Thankfully I'm still bigger than him and can beat him up. But he's always wanting to fight.

Meh. A lot of Marines are full of sh*t. I support the troops, but there are a lot of them with their heads up their as*es, and they get this crap from their DI's and SNCO's and what not.

Pride cometh before a fall. Did anyone remember seeing a thread where some jerk-off just got out of boot camp...JUST got out of boot, and was disgusted with every civilian because some of his crap got stolen?

Boy, that guy is in for a wake up call...

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 03:06
Well to be completely truthful. There are alot of civilians who want to make your life miserable just because you're in the Military. I've run into it once or twice, and all my friends have stories. Like how dare he join the Military, or they'll try to protest right in front of us like we're supposed to do something? I never really get crushed unless someone comes up to me and tells me how much they hate me, and they don't even know me. I joined for them and thats their thanks. It's sad.

Especially in Biloxi Mississippi... man they hated us there.

(not making excuses for anyone, but come on)

DayWalker
03-08-2008, 03:07
really???

what's their reasoning for that?

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 03:08
Some people have sour Feelings towards Military people. Don't ask me, I don't get it.

LimitBreak4
03-08-2008, 03:11
Although its not the best thing to be apart of, it can lead to better career options:eek:

MrFenwick
03-08-2008, 03:12
People just have a warped view on the military. All they see is bad things and so they go crazy over little things.

furby
03-08-2008, 03:13
A can't believe you guys are putting war fatigue/marine bootcamp at fault. This guy is ****ed, and I hope he gets what's coming to him. Maybe he won't get to come home from Iraq, if you know what I mean...

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 03:15
really???

what's their reasoning for that?

People are just stupid.

While it is true that stereotypes and generalizations are rooted in some truth, those truths can't be shoehorned onto an entire group, population, or whatever the case may be.

It isn't just against the military though. Take any hate group you can imagine. That's them.

Like I said though, the military isn't innocent either. There are holier than thou pr*cks in the service too, and they get on my nerves especially because every single service member KNOWS what it was like to be a civilian.

Civilians have ignorance on their side...which is no excuse...but my point is that service members by their very nature SHOULD be more prudent than that, because they have experience on both sides of the fence.


Although its not the best thing to be apart of, it can lead to better career options:eek:

Hell yeah it can...that's why people in Intelligence rarely stay in the military. There's many others, that's just one example.

LimitBreak4
03-08-2008, 03:16
People just have a warped view on the military. All they see is bad things and so they go crazy over little things.
Yea its like they have nothing else to do........can you say get a playstation (PSP,PS2,PS3) and be happy there are people putting there lifes on the line to protect us:eek:

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 03:25
A can't believe you guys are putting war fatigue/marine bootcamp at fault. This guy is ****ed, and I hope he gets what's coming to him. Maybe he won't get to come home from Iraq, if you know what I mean...

With what happened, he's going to want to stay in Iraq, he will die if he comes home. People are crazy here and will kill him over that dog...

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 03:26
A can't believe you guys are putting war fatigue/marine bootcamp at fault. This guy is ****ed, and I hope he gets what's coming to him. Maybe he won't get to come home from Iraq, if you know what I mean...

Put it this way, and this isn't to defend this cretin, mind you. You have about as much evidence that he was screwed up in the head beforehand as those who say it was war that screwed him up.

However the guy became a nutjob, he's a nutjob now.

Uncool
03-08-2008, 03:27
With what happened, he's going to want to stay in Iraq, he will die if he comes home. People are crazy here and will kill him over that dog...

Because its all talk and no real death? Or rather here its death my text.:rolleyes:

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 03:35
Because its all talk and no real death? Or rather here its death my text.:rolleyes:

Believe me, some dude just killed someones wife over a poker game the other week down here. People are stupid.

skrilla
03-08-2008, 03:35
Wow...That was horrrible, I couldn't imagine doing something like that to a puppy like that or a cat, household animals, etc... Wow, just wow.

Uncool
03-08-2008, 03:37
Believe me, some dude just killed someones wife over a poker game the other week down here. People are stupid.
Maybe some nutcase who has seen this video will actually hunt him down when he returns to the states. This world is crazy so everyone should get used to it.:-?

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 03:43
The most ridiculous thing about those types that get all up in arms about this sort of thing, is that their subsequent knee-jerk reactions are often times worse than whatever it was that provoked them.

DINAMO788
03-08-2008, 03:47
http://www.break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html


yes this has surprisingly gotten a lot of attention. i mean yes its terrible and i hate animal cruelty probably more than the average person but out of everything that goes on, kinda makes you wonder how easily people can get all emotional

seebs
03-08-2008, 04:58
http://www.break.com/index/puppies-get-revenge-on-marine.html


yes this has surprisingly gotten a lot of attention. i mean yes its terrible and i hate animal cruelty probably more than the average person but out of everything that goes on, kinda makes you wonder how easily people can get all emotional

Well, what response would you suggest to evil? Pure rational detachment without any hint of concern?

Behemoko
03-08-2008, 04:59
How many times is this going to be brought up? Get over it. People do dumb things, s**t happens, life goes on.

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 05:03
Who knows what that guy has been through in the war though.

I'm guessing that when you have people dying all around you, its not all that hard to become desensitized to death and unappreciative of life.

furby
03-08-2008, 05:05
^ That's a crock of BS. How do explain the camera-man, the guy laughing, and the actual POS doing it?!?! All of them went nuts?

Black
03-08-2008, 05:05
I agree, this was brought up before. Getting angry about it and hurling meaningless death threats around won't solve anything. All it does is show how pissed off and vulnerable we are. Especially when we jump the bandwagon posting death threats that won't get anywhere. Oh, "this guy should be shot" that kind of crap won't bring the dog back. Let the marines break this guy down and you'll all get your revenge and justification for why this happened. Leave it be, because there are more sick and twisted things that have and will happen again. One dog dying doesn't change the world. It only gets people riled up and that doesn't get us anywhere. Like the people who have been sending death threats to his parents instead of the guy himself. There's no point.

Idenowhereiam
03-08-2008, 05:08
Well to be completely truthful. There are alot of civilians who want to make your life miserable just because you're in the Military. I've run into it once or twice, and all my friends have stories. Like how dare he join the Military, or they'll try to protest right in front of us like we're supposed to do something? I never really get crushed unless someone comes up to me and tells me how much they hate me, and they don't even know me. I joined for them and thats their thanks. It's sad.

Especially in Biloxi Mississippi... man they hated us there.

(not making excuses for anyone, but come on)


Man thats pretty D**K of them.. I usually make it a point to thank and shake hands with all military, police and firefighters. Forget what some people say.. If you cant have some sort of pride in people who do those kinds of things (the honest ones not talking crooked cops and such) somethings wrong with you.. Just my opinion those people put themselves on the line for a greater good..

Maybe thats me being idealogical about it but thats how I see it..

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 05:10
^ That's a crock of BS. How do explain the camera-man, the guy laughing, and the actual POS doing it?!?! All of them went nuts?

Was that a response to me?

Yeah I guess thats how I would explain it. Their f**king nuts. They were perhaps brought up in poor conditions, and the war exemplified their inner dysfunctions. How would you explain it? Simply call them evil?

Killing in video games is not much different then eating dots in Pac-man.

Killing people in a real war and watching people's limbs blow of can make a man unappreciative of life and desensitized to death. Its a coping mechanism.

Don't think I'm excusing those guys for saying this.

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 05:12
^ That's a crock of BS. How do explain the camera-man, the guy laughing, and the actual POS doing it?!?! All of them went nuts?

Probably. You go to war and you see "The ****." You'd be amazed how little value life holds after you've killed a couple of people. When something so important can be taken so easily? Some people get high off that you know. Thus we have killers.

It's the way the human mind works. Why do you think bullies bully other kids? They like the power.

DINAMO788
03-08-2008, 05:18
so bullies are insane too? i call bull**** on it too. some soldiers are mentally stronger than others and i know some can creack easy but there are civilans who can do this too. i think those people are just jackasses who find this stuff funny and crave attention, which is what we're giving them. i dont think their conditions is any excuse for this or even a reason for why they did this. i think those guys were just a bunch of ****ers but for sure the value of human life in war-torn areas is scary.

Black
03-08-2008, 05:24
We shouldn't even be talking about this, anymore. Honestly, we'll forget about this anyways in a week's time.

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 05:25
so bullies are insane too? i call bull**** on it too. some soldiers are mentally stronger than others and i know some can creack easy but there are civilans who can do this too. i think those people are just jackasses who find this stuff funny and crave attention, which is what we're giving them. i dont think their conditions is any excuse for this or even a reason for why they did this. i think those guys were just a bunch of ****ers but for sure the value of human life in war-torn areas is scary.

Ignoring all of the opinion and reactionary emotions, you might be right. They could be just plain bullies / jerk offs.

Then again I can just as easily be right about them developing severe mental disorders due to war. It certainly happens.

Either way I agree that their surroundings/conditions are not excuse enough for them to get away with such an act. But you see the thing that supposedly separates people like us from puppy throwing soldiers - is empathy and compassion.


We shouldn't even be talking about this, anymore. Honestly, we'll forget about this anyways in a week's time.

I think we're discussing this cuz there is a potential for learning something meaningful.

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 05:29
Well, what response would you suggest to evil? Pure rational detachment without any hint of concern?
Nope, but death threats and taking matters into your own hands is no better. Two wrongs simply don't make things right.

Let his chain of command sort him out...believe me, they'll have this guy for breakfast...and maybe brunch to, I dunno.

The military does NOT like getting publicly embarrassed...even though it happens all the time. :lol: Thus, whenever the powers that be can find a scapegoat, whoo boy...if they don't tear into that guy like a pack wolves...Hell will have frozen over.

Black
03-08-2008, 05:31
I think we're discussing this cuz there is a potential for learning something meaningful.
Then we should stop all of the hate "this guy should be shot/burned/mauled" comments, please.

360Spider
03-08-2008, 05:32
Wow that really sucks man.

But I'm on both side of the story. There ARE assholes in the military. Whether they were like that in the beginning, or war made them that way. You can't blame them.

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 05:33
Then we should stop all of the hate "this guy should be shot/burned/mauled" comments, please.

Oh yeah, those kinda comments suck. People who say things like that should be lynched. :lol:

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 05:38
Oh yeah, those kinda comments suck. People who say things like that should be lynched. :lol:
:lol:

I think that people that makes comments like yours should be lynched!

What now!?

Tribunal
03-08-2008, 05:40
so bullies are insane too? i call bull**** on it too.

You go ahead because that's not what I was saying, they pick on people because they know they can.

Soldiers kill because they know they can. =S

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 05:46
:lol:

I think that people that makes comments like yours should be lynched!

What now!?

Duel?!

We will have an old fashion'd Tejas lynch-off on the ninth of march. Approximately three acorns past six going by mah sun dial.

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 05:51
Duel?!

We will have an old fashion'd Texas lynch-off on the ninth of march. Approximately three acorns past six going by mah sun dial.
Shoot, I'm there! after one 15 hour flight to L.A. and however long it takes to get from there to Texas...on second thought...make it the tenth or eleventh...I need time to readjust. :/

I must warn you though, I've honed and painstakingly crafted a hybrid of backwoods and Okinawan lynching that the world has never seen! I mean like I've won awards for my gruesome lynching skills!

Black
03-08-2008, 05:52
Both of you will end up shooting your feet in the process of a duel. Don't even bother. :lol:

RedOrb_Collector
03-08-2008, 05:52
As of yet I see no one logically explaining how being ordered to kill enemies in a war can lead to an unwarranted killing of a harmless animal....There is a clear difference between right and wrong there (whether you agree with the War being right or wrong itself is a different matter) Unless he was ordered to kill the dog(which he was not) I have no sympathy for the punishment that the higher ups have coming for him.

Fortunately there always seems to be a few touching stories from the war...like before this debacle of a scene there was the story of a dog that befriended the troops after one man saved the dog from near death, soon after he made arrangements to have the dog sent back to the soldier's home here in the States.

BlindSight
03-08-2008, 06:00
As of yet I see no one logically explaining how being ordered to kill enemies in a war can lead to an unwarranted killing of a harmless animal....There is a clear difference between right and wrong there (whether you agree with the War being right or wrong itself is a different matter) Unless he was ordered to kill the dog(which he was not) I have no sympathy for the punishment that the higher ups have coming for him.

Fortunately there always seems to be a few touching stories from the war...like before this debacle of a scene there was the story of a dog that befriended the troops after one man saved the dog from near death, soon after he made arrangements to have the dog sent back to the soldier's home here in the States.

I remember a story of a soldier who died in Iraq, and as a dying wish or something he wanted every kid in a certain village in Iraq to have a soccer ball. So some soldiers brought over a bunch of soccer balls from America with the dead soldiers name on it. The kids were really grateful and it was a nice little story. I think it was on youtube but I can't find it right now.

Unfortunately the bad stories out number the good ones like 1000to1 or so it would seem.

Lord Arklon
03-08-2008, 06:01
As of yet I see no one logically explaining how being ordered to kill enemies in a war can lead to an unwarranted killing of a harmless animal....There is a clear difference between right and wrong there (whether you agree with the War being right or wrong itself is a different matter) Unless he was ordered to kill the dog(which he was not) I have no sympathy for the punishment that the higher ups have coming for him.

Fortunately there always seems to be a few touching stories from the war...like before this debacle of a scene there was the story of a dog that befriended the troops after one man saved the dog from near death, soon after he made arrangements to have the dog sent back to the soldier's home here in the States.
Nor will anyone be able to, because the idea that by seeing certain atrocities inherent to war gives one a free pass to commit any other atrocity deemed less extreme, is ridiculous.

It's like saying it's ok to rape people since you've been to war. Yeah, so war may have desensitized you, doesn't mean your actions, for whatever silly reason, is justified.

I think people are simply explaining why they think he did it, not why it's excusable.

Black
03-08-2008, 06:05
Unfortunately the bad stories out number the good ones like 1000to1 or so it would seem.
Very true. But what do you expect with CNN and FOX News basically running the show?

RedOrb_Collector
03-08-2008, 06:06
I remember a story of a soldier who died in Iraq, and as a dying wish or something he wanted every kid in a certain village in Iraq to have a soccer ball. So some soldiers brought over a bunch of soccer balls from America with the dead soldiers name on it. The kids were really grateful and it was a nice little story. I think it was on youtube but I can't find it right now.


I remember that. Touching it was.


And good call Arklon.