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deanosrs
05-06-2008, 23:49
One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.
The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.
Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.
I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.
Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June!
mavsman4457
05-06-2008, 23:57
I agree completely. Splitscreen games will sell. Its as simple as that. I have said this before and I'll say it again. I bought Warhawk SOLELY because it has splitscreen. Give the people what they want.
I agree, I want to see a game like Dark Alliance for the PS2, that was insanely fun and didnt require split screen for awesome co-op play
The Barron
05-07-2008, 00:17
yeah i totally agree with this, am really lookin forward to Motorstorm 2, Buzz! and a Resistance 2 purely to get some more offline multiplayer action i can play with my mates.
Think it'd be nice to get something like Pinata Party Game for the ps3 a la 360
jaykruze06
05-07-2008, 00:21
can anyone say nintendo wii. its all about marketing. 360 had an ad program revolving around family/multiplayer games after the wii came out and some pretty fun games (ping pong!)
my two cents if n e one cares.
Deadly738
05-07-2008, 00:27
I concur 25 character rule
shadovvarrior
05-07-2008, 00:28
ahhh Dark Alliance :)
Well if am not wrong, you could also connect 2 PS1 s together...for lan play..... u would need 2 TV sets though but even that was fun....
yeah...offline multiplayer is hugely in demand...its more fun knowing the person; whose ass you r kickin in COD4;....in real life....
Deadly738
05-07-2008, 00:29
Unreal Tournament 3 really needs split screen. Too bad we're not getting it... :|
Falanx13
05-07-2008, 00:49
YES, I MISS OFFLINE MULTI!
What's the point of having the ability to have up to 7 controllers (bluetooth) on a PS3 if there are hardly any games that make use of 2 or 4?
I really want to see more split-screen, co-op games that my friends and I can play together in the same room. Right now, it's pretty much just sports games and a few FPS that even bother with it.
I just want more diverse games that 2-3 more people can join in on, like there were on the old Nintendo 64 (GoldenEye, StarFox, Smash Bros, Mario Party, Mario Kart, etc. etc). Good times.
I agree, I want to see a game like Dark Alliance for the PS2, that was insanely fun and didnt require split screen for awesome co-op play
That game truly rocked. (I had the GC version, but I assume it was pretty similar.)
The Barron
05-07-2008, 01:02
What's the point of having the ability to have up to 7 controllers (bluetooth) on a PS3 if there are hardly any games that make use of 2 or 4?
Exactly Sony!
Why bother enabling us to have up to 7 connected at once if we're only ever going to have one person playing.
Thinking back the only real times ive played with a friend on a game for any length of time was in R:FOM when my mate and i completed the co-op story mode, and we had a great time doing it too! Was also the one key feature Motorstorm and Burnout Paradise were missing
deanosrs
05-07-2008, 01:23
Wow, I thought the majority of people just played online and didn't care about offline. Is Resistance 2 confirmed for offline split screen and bots? What about Haze? Timesplitters 2 had the best offline multiplayer split screen, 3 humans 3 bots, bots vs humans was ridiculous fun.
I just want more diverse games that 2-3 more people can join in on, like there were on the old Nintendo 64 (GoldenEye, StarFox, Smash Bros, Mario Party, Mario Kart, etc. etc). Good times.
This is exactly what I'm talking about! How can the PS3's range of offline multiplayers compete with shagging money out of your mates in Mario Party (anyone remember that minigame?!)? Or the hilarity when people can't even press the A or B button from a flag held up on the screen? I know the wii can offer these things, but let's face it, it's not a PS3. Regardless, the power of the ps3 should be giving us better offline multiplayer experiences.
i had fun 4 screen multiplayer during goldeneye, but once i play splitscreen on warhawk it throws me off, since my peripheral vision is cut in half, anyone know what i mean
i say they bring back splitscreen plus online (warhawk sucks that its vertical), but it would have to be horizontal
The thing is, 'Playstation' has never really been about offline multi-player. At first I thought it was because the PS1 was so weak, but then when the PS2 arived the multi-player aspect was still so limited.
I'd like to see a change of this with the PS3, but you can't miss something thats never really been there besides racing games.
I agree. It seems many developers are overlooking the offline multiplayer aspect of games. I don't mean ONLY offline split screen multi player games (pso was my favorite. not the card game version) but the single screen offline multi player games aswell. Games along the lines of *cough* Champions of Norath =)) are dearly needed this generation.
I thought that they were going to be going this route with the upcoming Golden Ax game but unfortunatly they have AXed (pun intended) the multi-player aspect of the game and it is now solely a single player experience.
Gone are the days of sitting in the same room as your drunkin friends as you fight amonst eachother over the next treasure chest, bag of gold, or powerful weapon. It seems this generation if you wish to have a good time with friends over at your house the Nintendo Wii is your only option.
These types of addictive offline multiplayer are dearly needed on the PS3 aswell as the 360. Online is fun but sometimes I want to beable to play with people in the same room as me. Nothing beats pushing your buddies as you both race towards the next treasure chest or hord of enemies.
Sicarius123
05-07-2008, 02:00
You guys complaining about the lack of fun party games with your drunken friends should jump on PSN and buy PAIN, gets real boring playing it single player pretty quickly, but if you fire it up in a room full of friends it's hillarious and the most fun I've had in a group on a console for a long time.
oopsadoops
05-07-2008, 02:03
aahhh, goldeneye for PS2, whewboy, bots v humans was ridiculously fun.
-Deadpool-
05-07-2008, 02:04
Can't say I miss it as most of my 'gaming' mates have been met through games online now anyway.
I occasionally play co-op in Super Stardust though and its pretty good fun.. 8)
Exactly Sony!
Why bother enabling us to have up to 7 connected at once if we're only ever going to have one person playing.
Thinking back the only real times ive played with a friend on a game for any length of time was in R:FOM when my mate and i completed the co-op story mode, and we had a great time doing it too! Was also the one key feature Motorstorm and Burnout Paradise were missing
the main reason sony included this was probably for sports games, or games which do not require splitscreen. The only game that i have that supports 7 controllers is NHL 08 (not mine my bro's dont poke fun at me). I posted a thread a few months back relating somewhat to this topic. The only decent splitscreen i have so far is COD4. The problem with resistance is not bots, it is that the maps are HUGE. Me and my friends decided to play a little resistance to take a break from COD4....lets just say COD4 didnt need a break after a couple of minutes. Don't get me wrong, resistance has a great single and co-op story mode, hell even the online is great, but the offline MP? ....
I used to love offline multiplayer back in the day when my brother used to live at home, that was probably around the time of the N64 or something like. Online is cool but nothing is better than actually playing side by side friends and gaming. Even with all this voice chat and fancy stuff, can't compare to playing even some of the simplest graphic multiplayer games like Mario Kart on SNES.
I would love more offline multiplayer games, it is great fun playing with multiple people all together. Splitscreen is a reasonable choice, a lot of people have big TVs nowadays anyway.
Sicarius123
05-07-2008, 04:25
That's funny actually, I remember playing split screen goldeneye on a 34cm and 48cm TV, and now that I have a 46" TV I barely have any split screen action.
micromagic
05-07-2008, 10:34
I use my PS3 loads for offline multiplayer, maybe it's just my choice of games....4 player split screen on COD4 is amazing, singstar 2 player or pass the mic mode with 8 players is a right laugh, 4 player on pro evo, split screen on GT5:P, 2 player co-op on PJM, Pain, Calling All Cars, SD:HD..theres loads..plus Haze this month and Buzz! next month, it's a good time to be an offline or online player. I wish Motorstorm has splitscreen though, will have to wait for MS2.
GigpigBoogie
05-07-2008, 10:36
No not really, because it hasn't gone anywhere heh.
I still use fighting games for offline fun, such as VF5.
deanosrs
05-07-2008, 10:39
I think it's disgraceful that Burnout Paradise didn't have a split screen, anyways. That was the main game that prompted this thread. Anyone care to add to the list people have mentioned so far of offline multiplayer games? And does anyone know if Haze will have bots?
well I've only really played multiplayer in Warhawk, Fifa, MGO, and Super Smash Bros and really, two of those, I'm forced to be online and I play Fifa about 50/50 online/offline and Smash Bros fully offline. actually I did play quite a bit of Resistance coop when I first got the system.
so, no, I don't really miss it because I still engage in it. I think Tekken will give me quite a fun time offline.
imo though, shooter games are best played online in one screen. split screen for non-racing games just has too much going on.
GigpigBoogie
05-07-2008, 11:04
motorstorm was the game that shocked me, a racing game with single player only? who decided this.
yeah i have to admit when i bought COD4 it was the worst thing about it. at least have a campain multiplayer option. like resistance. that was so much fun. me and a mate did that campaign 5 times. and its not a short game.
BioSonic
05-07-2008, 12:23
Haze has offline splitscreen. Resistance 2 will have offline splitscreen. Motorstorm: Pacific Rift will have offline splitscreen. LBP will have offline mulitplayer. It seems to me that at least some devs realize people like to play with their mates at home.
STLunat1K
05-07-2008, 12:58
One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.
The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.
Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.
I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.
Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June!
I don't like playing with myself personally!:DD BOING!!!!!!
ManaBurnX
05-07-2008, 13:12
I like to have the option of playing online or offline but offline multiplayer tends to be the most fun because you can see who you are playing with and mess with them while they're playing. Right now the Wii is the king of multiplayer/party games (offline) and you can find plenty there. On the PS3 there's not so much now but I can't wait for LittleBigPlanet because it will be four players online and offline!
davidyoung
05-07-2008, 14:26
My wife and I enjoy playing video games together, but there seems to be a dearth of good games (barring Madden '08 and the like) of offline 2+ player games. Call of Duty 4 looked great, but we can only do deathmatch type playing it seems.
Lymphatikz
05-07-2008, 16:03
Offline Multiplayer hasnt gone anywhere. Games like COD4 and the like that dont let you not do split screen - Yeah it's a right bast*rd but to be honnest i hate splitting my screen upto share and the only games i usualy play offline multiplayer is Fifa, Pro evo and the odd racing game.
Splitscreen hasnt gone anywhere - it's just a hassle at best of times.
bockscar
05-07-2008, 16:07
some games like burnout are fun to have split screen
a kind of game that u can buy and keep replaying with family and friends.
i almost bought burnout until i realised it doesnt have split screen. ps3 games are costly for me and the ps3 is JUST only bought. it'd be weird to have a first game that cant play multiplayer with my brothers
Ishimaru Kaito
05-07-2008, 16:10
i usually don't play with other people offline cause i'm a rebel like that so i can't really say that i miss it
What I would like even more than split screen is split video feed we got two video port the component and the HDMI why not use both! It would be great if we could assign them to a different Tv for player one and player two! And I would also want to get support for LAN party instead of only playing trough the psn!
deanosrs
05-07-2008, 16:17
madhi - pretty sure that's not possible. the system settings demand that you choose one or the other.
And split screen gaming has not "gone" as such, but the point of this thread is to make sure that the developers of games like burnout and resistance appreciate there is still a market for people who play multiplayer offline - split screen has gone out of the burnout series and this has annoyed me!
You could probably solve that with a simple firmware upgrade it not really a big issue. And I don't see the ps3 supporting it for graphic intensive game. But some games like RTS would be perfect that way. And the same setup could be use for dual screen XMB.
Two screens in offline mode would kick a.ss. When the original designs for the ps3 were comin out I remember there being two hdmi ports, but we all see how well that idea panned out.
What id really love to see is online mode with a friend. Halo and the such have modes where you can bring a friend in with you. Awesome. Not to mention the ease of having Lan parties with some friends and a few small-ish tv's. I remember playin 4 on 4 COD3 on xbox with some friends with the tv's backed up to each other, insane setup.
Just played COD4 this morning against my bro and two of his friends. 3 on 1, im talkin 30 kills to there 4. Should have been declared as rape.... probably not though.
As every analyst and programmer has stated, and as most of us know already, the ps3's potential hasn't even been tapped into yet. Since the "hello world" a couple weeks ago, I'd say it'll be a year or two before we see some really nice open source progress. And once that happens... who knows.
FantasyStar
05-07-2008, 16:34
It's cause of the offline aspects that I live such as bots, co-op, and jumping in during the action that I plan to buy Haze. They're very big on that and I look forward to it.
SonKitty
05-07-2008, 16:40
I play fighting games so...I don't.
And my friends that play the likes of Warhawk and Resistance do so offline at a friend's house just fine.
aayman_farzand
05-07-2008, 17:18
i've been thinking the same thing for the past few days. i hav 4 controllers, and i use all of them at once i just 2 games, CoD4 and WWE08. dev's r focusing soo much on online multiplayer that they r forgetting that some of us hav friends who come over to play. and i hav a 256K burstable connection, cant play online either, i always look for decent multiplayer capabilities in a game, so far i;ve found a handful only
the_disco_pimp
05-07-2008, 19:06
One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.
The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.
Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.
I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.
Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June!
I couldn't have said it any better myself. ++rep! Every month a bunch of my friends come over and we all like to play at the same time. Warhawk is fun, but very hard unless you play all the time. COD4 is ok too, but other than shooters, what is there?
Destructo
05-07-2008, 19:39
Hmm...nope...can't say I miss offline MP. I love playing with people all over the country.
Godzeela
05-08-2008, 23:27
yea i wish more games like UT3 & MS had offline multiplayer
its way funner to beat my best friends ass at a game then some1 i dont know
& MS without offline multiplayer was a tard idea
i owuld hav played it way more if i could hav been racing my friends/family
I don't care if they allow online, as long as it always supports SPLIT SCREEN! Oh how I miss the days of split screen :(
yea there was a thread aboutthis not too long ago and i compleatly agree, even better would be online split screen but no one ever wants to do that
Sam_From_Space
05-09-2008, 00:09
Goldeneye on N64 was amazing multi-player :p
wikitheory
05-17-2008, 04:26
I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I do love Goldeneye, but I'm over having my screen 4 times smaller and knowing where the other guy is just by looking at his screen.
Don Knotts
05-18-2008, 20:14
Thats what I am saying I want multilayer on the same console games. Whats wrong with this gen? Its all about playing 1 player with a friend online WTF???? I like it when people are right there. I just have to hope that Tales of Vespiria ends up coming to ps3. There really isn't a reason it shouldn't. Also I am pretty jelouse of Fable 2 it will have the multi player. Then again thats why I love Warhawk. I can bring people with me and do all the time.
i would much rather play offline with my GF or a friend when we are just relaxing then play online and have my gf or friends just watch. i just wish motorstorm had split screen my gf loves that game and so do i but i can't destroy her in split screen and make her cry lol.
Oh man I loved Goldeneye for the n64, I spent countless hours playing with my friends...I'll never forget Goldeneye, so yea I would be cool I the ps3 had some fun splitscreen games. And playing Halo 2 system link was a blast too lol.
FlipBwoy
05-18-2008, 22:04
Yh, when I first tried resistance's offline multiplayer mode I was confused because der were no bots. But Resistance does have campaign co op.
I need/want a fps with bots. The only shooter game I can play with my friends at my house is Warhawk because of split screen online.
ChildOfIllusions
05-18-2008, 22:12
i would much rather play offline with my GF or a friend when we are just relaxing then play online and have my gf or friends just watch. i just wish motorstorm had split screen my gf loves that game and so do i but i can't destroy her in split screen and make her cry lol.
Then seems like you will have to wait for Motorstorm: Pacific rift that will have 4 player split screen. This time aorund there getting it right.
TheMadTitan
05-18-2008, 23:34
LOL ps2 didnt have any online games that kicked off??? no such game as socom i guess then.
anyway, i do miss offline multiplayer. me and a few of my friends have a 3way party game deal. all three of us have to buy a party game soon. im about to buy MUA(for the 3rd time) the other 2 have to get HAZE and smackdown vs raw.
turkmen117
05-18-2008, 23:56
Moved to ps3 games section
Yea I enjoy them. My friends and I got a lot out of Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, Wrestling (haha, ya), San Andreas and other games like that. Developers should definitely add them in since more often than not you have a friend at your house that wants to play also but can't because it's only 1 player offline and then multiplayer online... doesn't make sense.
One of the only things I like about the Wii is how so many of their games are multiplayer offline. The guy next to me in the dorms had one and there was always people in there playing on it.
Wow, that sounds kinda dirty... a bunch of guys in there playing with his Wii... I think Nintendo has a dirty mind.
Centurion
05-19-2008, 00:08
I think you have a dirty mind.
I enjoy offline multiplayer much more than online multiplayer. Atleast you can see who you are playing with.
superJoel
05-19-2008, 00:48
Rock Band is a great offline multiplayer game with friends. But, yes the focus seems to have shifted more toward online gaming. sucks for me though... cuz my connection is pretty slow and probably couldn't hack warhawk or a FPS type game online... just a 768K connection :(
ironflag55555
05-19-2008, 02:58
ahh yes old school days! 007 on N64 all day 8D
Tempermentalist
05-19-2008, 03:14
i agree with the original poster and many others who have posted in here...me and my friend love playing games together in the same room...we wouldnt have it any other way...its more fun being able to talk and laugh and just react to what each other is doing....my friend doesnt even get online to play games unless im over at his house with him...he has two tvs so we lan our consoles and play online together in the same room...but after i leave his house..he doesnt play online by himself...we just enjoy playing in the same room together....me and him went through RFOM many times..and cant wait to do so with Haze...
yeah i miss the halo parties we had that was awesome ppl split into 4 rooms and 4 teams screaming and yelling. theres nothing better than rubbing it in someones face that you owned them than literally doing it.
Shin Asura
05-19-2008, 05:50
I don't because online is just as good if not better
HellsJester
05-19-2008, 05:55
No, because 90% of the time on offline it was splitscreen and i hate splitscreen.
1 screen or no screen
1 of the many reasons i love LBP.
Hahaha making me nostalgic here. On N64 it was starfox, goldeneye, army men or bomber man. Dreamcast it was toy commander. Xbox we played so much halo split screen. The highlight of 9th grade was the halo lan parties we would have. 4 on 4. They really need to bring back an emphasis on console multi. Some of those games and the times we had playing them were defining points in my childhood
Which is why I can't wait for Little Big Planet. That will be a blast to play with my friends.
Centurion
05-19-2008, 06:22
I'm surprised so many people mentioned Golden Eye on N64 but not Perfect Dark. My friends and I played tons of Golden Eye until Perfect Dark was released, then that sort of took over with the co-op mode and multiplayer.
When playing online theres no bonding experience :(
RedDragon7
05-19-2008, 07:25
Lol, no one answered his question...
YES, Haze DOES support bots :DD
"We have 16 player - that goes online or LAN. You can also mix in split-screen, so you can do 2 player split-screen online, and we're doing 16 players online with all those different permutations. We're supporting bots as well. Bots work online, so you can do deathmatch games online with bots in, and we're supporting them in a range of different modes. We're talking about a range of deathmatch variants and then our Team Assault mode. Source: http://www.totalvideogames.com/articles/HAZE_-_Multiplayer_Hands_On_13141.htm
Now granted they mention very little of offline play... go figure, but everything works online as it does offline. Bots will work, online, offline, and of course over LAN. So whether you just have 2 people on one console or 16 over a LAN... there will be bots.
Btw, I completely agree... it is one of the main reasons I'm getting Haze... SPLITSCREEN! Thank god for R2 splitscreen and Motorstorm 4-player splitscreen as well :D Now I just hope Killzone 2 has splitscreen. That would be pretty much perfect!
Sicarius123
05-19-2008, 07:29
I didn't find the Haze demo better than COD, honestly I don't think COD4 online is going anywhere anytime soon, not too late to jump in it :)
RedDragon7
05-19-2008, 07:32
I was actually rather disappointed that COD4 didn't have splitscreen. It has it for freakin deatchmatch but not for the singleplayer :(
Yeah it is a little dissapointing. Why on earth doesn't Motorstorm, UT3, or COD4 have split screen. They have become sort of too-online focused.
RedDragon7
05-19-2008, 08:37
Well Motorstorm 2 will have 4-player. So they have redeemed themselves. F-ing Epic is giving 360 UT3 splitscreen, and said had they been given more time would have given it to the PS3... [insert vulgarity], I would've happily given them more time had that been mentioned...
bobtheduck
07-01-2008, 05:49
Sorry for bringing up the old thread, but it was brought up again (in another thread), so
Unreal Tournament 3 really needs split screen. Too bad we're not getting it... :|
Actually, if it's possible to map functions to other controllers (I'm not sure) then it will be possible to do splitscreen... All you need is to set up alternate cameras that follow other characters (namely, the other players...)
It will require major adjustment on any map you plan on using it with, though... You'll need to reduce texture detail among other things... If the mipmaps can be changed in a mutator as well, this will work to allow for this (though I noticed MGS4 had splitscreen at times with no drop in framerate, but I doubt it would be possible in the most graphically intense scenes)
I've tried cooking maps for the PS3 (failed, haha), but I've never done mutators, and I don't even know where to start, so tell me this: Can you map things to other controllers on the PS3 cooks?
outlander2346
07-01-2008, 06:46
Well LBP will have an ultimate offline gameplay.Creating levels or just playing them with 3 of your friends on one PS3 is going to be awesome. And you can slap each other!!! lol
Not to mention 4 player online mode.
Man , i get my brother and a couple of friends over. plug in COD4 and play multiplayer.
its awesome.. great fun.. just knife battles and pistols or shotguns only.
it is so much fun
iTz nAsTyY
07-01-2008, 07:28
Well most of the games that i play are fighting games and are split screen compatible. But i wish there where more games like halo were split screen is still fun.
richkaos
07-01-2008, 09:45
One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.
The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.
Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.
I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.
Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June!
Totally agree, check out The official multiplayer splitscreen fan club thread, where a list of good offline multiplayer games is growing
Ps HAZE does have bots and its a very good offline multiplayer game
richkaos
07-01-2008, 09:47
I was actually rather disappointed that COD4 didn't have splitscreen. It has it for freakin deatchmatch but not for the singleplayer :(
It does have splistscreen for upto 4 people and in all match types