Would you make killzone2 multiplatform,just to get Gears of War2 multiplatformed? [Archive]

admartian

07-03-2008, 03:02

Even though both games I are going to be great, I wouldn't swap Killzone 2 for Gears. Simply because we've got quite a few 3ps-types of games already.

MGS4 & Uncharted are already awesome enough to not want Gears (no disrespect). I mean, if both of those games were simply average, then I would want to swap, but we already have our fair share of games like that.

Not to mention that the 360 already has a plethora of FPSs.

However, if the question was changed to say Mass Effect series - I'd probably give it a long hard look. :)

3ncryptioncsta

07-03-2008, 03:04

i would swap KZ2 for GoW2

MiNiMaL_sAnItY

07-03-2008, 03:04

Killzone 2 is designed specifically for the ps3, so i doubt it'd be made multiplat without a lot of coding effort(also, GG are first/second party devs to sony, IIRC). Gears on the other hand can be ported easily in comparison, what with it being based on UE3, but I doubt it'd be ported easily as well, because of the optimizations on the 360 platform for it and MS not wanting to lose a great monies franchise.

P.S.3

07-03-2008, 03:07

No way man. I will keep Killzone 2 thanks.

TH3 GAM3

07-03-2008, 03:08

There is a lot more work going into Killzone 2 so no I wouldn't trade it for GeOW2.

iTz nAsTyY

07-03-2008, 03:09

Ya i would cause you say that killzone 2 will be multi-platform so that means we get it to and gears of war 2? I would be up for that. Both games would be sick though. :)

Vulgotha

07-03-2008, 03:09

The "green team" can have Gears. Let the PS3 fans have KZ2.

Gears is nothing but overhyped to begin with. Gears 2 looks rather promising though... But nothing I'd trade KZ2 for.

Besides both games would have to be watered down if they were to become multiplats. So who wins in that scenario? Nobody.

Gambit

07-03-2008, 03:13

Ya i would cause you say that killzone 2 will be multi-platform so that means we get it to and gears of war 2? I would be up for that. Both games would be sick though. :)sorry i made a mistake i guess in the title.i ment if Gears went to multi too.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 03:14

Absolutely not. Gears 2 just caters to the hardcore American spazz so it doesn't exactly fit well with me. I'll take my much more immersive Killzone 2 any day.

EVILPS3

07-03-2008, 03:15

Hell no Killzone has been in development for like 200 years or something, I have high expectations, never liked Gears Of War anyway.

DeanoIV

07-03-2008, 03:17

Not at all because both MS and Sony have to have their own exclusives to make the hardcores happy and to make their console worthwhile. I do own both consoles so it's easy for me to say that but people should just buy a 360 if they want Gears 2.

UK-Kane

07-03-2008, 03:17

lol @ people "Keeping KZ".

I wasn't a massive fan of Gears, however i wouldn't mind it coming to PS3.

The more good games i can get my hands on the better.

Minnzy

07-03-2008, 03:18

For me to want either of them they'd have to make up for some of thier predacessors mistakes, First Killzone 2 will have to not be a console FPS :p And Geow2 will need to make me not fall asleep multiple times with a low grade story and horrible AI, I'd happily give up quite a bit of shooters for Blue Dragon and Lost odyssey though :) though with the price drop I heard about LO and BD might be within my grasp finally!

PS: Though if Geow has the train atachment as seen in CAD comic I think that'll make up for heaps :p

Genesis-

07-03-2008, 03:23

lol @ people "Keeping KZ".

I wasn't a massive fan of Gears, however i wouldn't mind it coming to PS3.

The more good games i can get my hands on the better.
I wouldn't trade Kill Zone 2 for it though.

TH3 GAM3

07-03-2008, 03:26

The only department GeOW2 could actually beat Killzone 2 in is gameplay. Every other category, Killzone 2 wins. Why trade it?! :suspect:

lespaul2510

07-03-2008, 03:30

no way, gears sucks anyway, who needs a chainsaw? Leaving Killzone 2 a PS3 exclusive will draw more people to buy a PS3, thus leaving their junkboxes behind

gumionday

07-03-2008, 03:30

I would not swap Killzone2 for Gears of War. I never was into FPS and Killzone 1 got me back into those games quite a bit more than previously released titles. Resistance sealed the deal and i knew then I really liked FPS again. I have seen some screens for gears of war 2 and they look good but the shots from KZ2 look so much better. It is the same character from UT3, they aren't making you play as Templar again they are giving it to someone else.

Killzone

UK-Kane

07-03-2008, 03:38

I wouldn't trade Kill Zone 2 for it though.

You're not trading it though, both would be out on PS3 in this (completely hypothetical) situation.

AranhaHunter

07-03-2008, 03:50

Yea, I wouldn't mind if others got to play Killzone as well, and on top of that I'd get to play Gears 2.

SonyJunkie

07-03-2008, 03:51

How does anyone know if Killzone 2 is going to be good, it looks good, but no one has played it. Ive heard that the first Killzone wasnt even that good. We all know how Gears is, but we have no idea about Killzone 2. I would love to have Gears 2 on the PS3 cause I know that the game is fun from the first one. But I dont know about Killzone 2. It looks really good, but im not going to hype it up saying its the best PS3 game, no one has any idea. Than if its a good game, people are going to say that its not as good as I hoped. Even though its good. Just wait for it to come out, then decide if you would have given up Killzone 2 to get Gears 2.

I know its sounds like I'm bashing the PS3 and Killzone 2, but im not, I love my PS3, thats all I got right now. But people are saying that Killzone 2 is going to be better than Gears 2. But we have no idea how KZ 2 is going to play or anything for that matter. We all know how Gears 2 plays, its going to be the same as Gears 1.

This was really pointless for me to say, cause none of you are going to care. But I wouldnt give up Killzone 2 for Gears 2. Its looking to be a good game. And id rather give something a chance, than taken something I know is already fun. Thats just how I am. I love new things.

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Just re-read the comments and I miss read some of them. No one was saying that Killzone 2 is going to be awesome. My bad, didnt mean for all that.

DevDizz

07-03-2008, 03:52

Danzig-Mother

07-03-2008, 04:01

I get to play both, so Im safe.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 04:06

Hell yah. Instead of having one great game for the PS3 that would make 2. Just because GOW2 is on 360 many of ya'll want to make it seem as though it isn't a great game. Gears 1 has probably the best graphics of this young generation and Gears 2 is also likely to set a standard. I love MSG4 and am a proud PS3 owner. But there is a problem when our second generation of games are still compared to gears 1.
HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.

Bitbydeath

07-03-2008, 04:13

Definetly not.

Yea, I wouldn't mind if others got to play Killzone as well, and on top of that I'd get to play Gears 2.

But then Killzone would have to be dumbed down.

KZ2's levels take up around 2GB each so we'd get like 3 levels overall. :dunce

nskinnear

07-03-2008, 04:15

I would love to see Gears 2 on PS3. That was the one game that I really thought as a PS3 owner I was missing out on.

fuzzypumpkins

07-03-2008, 04:17

no, i didnt like gears, and they shouldnt give up kz to the box

DevDizz

07-03-2008, 04:19

HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.
MSG4 is a good looking game, no doubt. Im actually on Act 5 and stuck on the puppeteer with Meryl. Anyways, Uncharted was pretty too, but gears is gears and that game was launched almost 2 years ago and it looks just as good. Im sorry to ruffle your little feathers, but thyat is something you can't deny. Graphically MSG4 and gears 1 are equivalent, MSG4 just has a lot more going on on screen. But details wise, it a draw.

Vulgotha

07-03-2008, 04:20

I don't think it'd be realistic to assert that Gears maintains graphical supremacy over MGS4, let alone Uncharted.

TyPiKaL

07-03-2008, 04:20

I don't like GoW IMO. So no definitely not.

Imagine how horrid Killzone 2 would be if they had to put it on a non-blu disc.

Mr_Bob

07-03-2008, 04:21

No thank you I don't want Gears as much as I used too. After beating it. I realized that the game was over hyped and a bit overrated. Let both games stay respectfully in their natural consoles.

SillyHatMafia

07-03-2008, 04:23

No, I Dont like Gears of War

ttech10

07-03-2008, 04:24

I'd much rather have one amazing exclusive than two normal multiplatform games... which is what basically all multiplat games are now... nothing more than average games because devs can't utilize the systems resources but rather port it from the 360.

DayWalker

07-03-2008, 04:26

:suspect:

I am gonna go ahead and wait till KX2 comes out before I comment.

nm.... sure why not. as long as the quality of KZ2 didn't diminish as a result of being multiplat...
and Gears was built from the ground up for the PS3...

Two4DaMoney

07-03-2008, 04:37

Hell no I wouldn't want for this to take place...

Tetsu

07-03-2008, 04:43

Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears.
Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 04:45

HAHAHAHA. I ought to put this in my sig. Quality post right there. /sarcasm.
Idiot. Uncharted passed up Gear LONG ago and Metal Gear Solid 4 looks twice as good as both of those games combined. Ratchet and Clank Future also looks much better than Gears. But I highly doubt you've played MGS4 because even an Xbox 360 fansite said that the in game cutscene graphics were better than Crysis cutscenes, much less Gears. So GTFO.
ugh , the graphics are not even comparable to crysis cutscenes nor actual gameplay. Why can't people leave it alone. No game on this gen of conosoles will be a bigger graphical feat than crysis. leave it alone already.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 04:48

MSG4 is a good looking game, no doubt. Im actually on Act 5 and stuck on the puppeteer with Meryl. Anyways, Uncharted was pretty too, but gears is gears and that game was launched almost 2 years ago and it looks just as good. Im sorry to ruffle your little feathers, but thyat is something you can't deny. Graphically MSG4 and gears 1 are equivalent, MSG4 just has a lot more going on on screen. But details wise, it a draw.
I seriously don't know WTF you are smoking.
http://xboxoz360.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/metal-gear-solid-4-review-closest-thing-to-perfect-since-ocarina-of-time/
Freaking 360 fansite right here -
Graphically this game is one of the most beautiful games ever, only coming into close rivals with Crysis, but while Crysis beats Metal Gear Solid 4 in Game play graphics, it blows Crysis out of the water in Cut scenes.
Owned by a 360 fansite. LOL. MGS4 looks better than Gears 1 on the freakin PC. Here's from Gamespot -
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made.
And Gamepro -
Kojima has fooled us again: These aren't pre-rendered movies, as many had assumed, but in-game assets running in real time.
I'm just using critics to back me up. Gears (even for the PC) has absolutely nothing on this and you're just being a stubborn fanboy.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 04:50

Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.
Owned.

ugh , the graphics are not even comparable to crysis cutscenes nor actual gameplay. Why can't people leave it alone. No game on this gen of conosoles will be a bigger graphical feat than crysis. leave it alone already.
I'm quoting a freaking Xbox 360 fansite LOL.
Yes, MGS4 in game cutscenes do look better than Crysis cutscenes. According to this Xbox 360 fansite posted above, they "blow Crysis cutscenes out of the water."

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 04:53

Owned.

I'm quoting a freaking Xbox 360 fansite LOL.
Yes, MGS4 in game cutscenes do look better than Crysis cutscenes. According to this Xbox 360 fansite posted above, they "blow Crysis cutscenes out of the water."
dude, i have mgs4 and i have played crysis, The graphics have no comparison. The textures, the ligting, NOTHING. I will redownload the demo and take screenshots for you as if there aren't enough. Yes the acting is better. Do me a favor, go look at trees in crysis and the water and the explosions and also look at the TEXTURES on the GROUND. They blow everything out of the water. I don't care what some xbox site says, they are ******ed too. One thing that i love about mgs4 are the explosion effects, but don't compare the graphics to crysis. Not even close.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 04:57

dude, i have mgs4 and i have played crysis, The graphics have no comparison. The textures, the ligting, NOTHING. I will redownload the demo and take screenshots for you as if there aren't enough. Yes the acting is better. Do me a favor, go look at trees in crysis and the water and the explosions and also look at the TEXTURES on the GROUND. They blow everything out of the water. I don't care what some xbox site says, they are ******ed too. One thing that i love about mgs4 are the explosion effects, but don't compare the graphics to crysis. Not even close.
Of course, buddy, whatever you want to convince yourself. PS3 fans say MGS4 cutscenes are greater than Crysis cutscenes, 360 fans say MGS4 cutscenes are greater than Crysis cutscenes, (lol you know it must be true then) and Gamespot, which is known as a site that hates the PS3, says "MGS4 is the most technically stunning game ever created." Hmmm, I'd say you're alone on this one.
You can have your opinion, and I respect it, but seriously, don't try to convince me something when I have PLENTY of people seeing things the same way I do.

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 05:00

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 05:09

Listen to me carefully and then go look at HD videos of both games, The Graphics are not comparable, on top of that, The TEXTURES are not even close. I am a huge ps3 fan, but when it doesn't look better it just doesn't. MGS4 is def. the most technically stunning game on a CONSOLE. That's where it stops bud.
The fact that you're getting defensive leads me to believe that you are mostly a PC gamer. Which leads me to believe you are biased. You seem to not be able to comprehend that the PS3 has a processor that PC's won't be seeing for quite some time, blowing nearly all PC processors in the dust. It also has 50Gb of free space, allowing for some massive graphical phenomenons to take place. MGS4 textures OWN Crysis textures. Look at Cysis rock in the left. Look at all the MGS4 textures along the walls and everything.
Crysis cutscene shot: http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/819/819501/crysis-20070911110038618.jpg
And MGS4 cutscene shot: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/141/926596_20080521_screen010.jpg

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 05:12

YouTube - The most realistic graphics ever. More realistic than crysis

LMAO now on the real note, here you go bud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPi0AhQgrDs&feature=related

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 05:15

Two4DaMoney

07-03-2008, 05:16

All of this between you two because of some damn cutscenes? Come on now.

Gizmo356

07-03-2008, 05:16

No thank you, I think Killzone 2 belongs on the PS3 and Gears belongs on the 360. Its probably better if it stays that way.

MiNiMaL_sAnItY

07-03-2008, 05:16

Seriously... where do these people come from?

You Gears-heads can have your idiotic chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. Don't pollute the PS3 with poor B minus grade movie fodder games. We already have that with Enchanted Arms.

Pollute? Yeah, because the ps3 has only high quality, movie grade games on it, right? :rolleyes: Some people enjoy "idiotic" chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain, contrary to popular belief.

And crysis>mgs4(graphically) or any other game out for that matter.

Vulgotha

07-03-2008, 05:17

..Girugamesh, the PS3 can output some amazing looking games- but Crysis on Super High Settings requires a monster of a completely different nature.

The PS3 has a very potent processor, and a good disc medium. However it still simply doesn't have as much physical memory as a PC does (required to run Crysis at said settings). Despite the exponentially increased efficiency of memory usage in a console, you simply still don't have alot of the "Room" needed.

This is why (in part) many games on the 360 and PS3 are not high resolutions, typically the "Best looking" being Sub HD. (Below 720p).

Sephiroth7924

07-03-2008, 05:21

I will not ever do that. Gears has gotten kinda old to me and gears 2 wont be any different. It wont be much of a gain so ill stay with Killzone 2.

Itaintrite

07-03-2008, 05:21

My answer would be no as well for one simple reason. No PS3 port please :/

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 05:22

Idenowhereiam

07-03-2008, 05:27

No and heres why..
Killzone is built for the the ps3.. and porting it will make it just as good for the xb360..
(fact games port from the ps3/to the 360 are equally good if not slightly in the ps3s favor)
Now theres nothing wrong with that, besides disk size (possible multi disk 360 ver.) I see it being a good port and a great pick up for the 360 as another stellar game to add to its library...

But c'mon now lets be honest.. the ps3 would get the short end of the stick on this deal.. I mean dont get me wrong Geow2 will be a siick game and would be a great addition as well.. but lets be serious.. A game ported from the 360 to the ps3 is going be lacking not only that but.. the unreal engine on the ps3 in my opinion sucks.. Its just broken no doubt it would be delayed, and have some kind of issues.. Its a good engine for the 360 no question.. but i've yet to be wowed by it on my current system of choice..

And thats just going on past experiences..So honestly let these games shine where they belong and lets not have any blemishes on them just yet..

rexest

07-03-2008, 05:32

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.

Insanehead

07-03-2008, 05:34

Bitbydeath

07-03-2008, 05:35

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.

As i stated earlier. KZ2 levels are 2GB each.

A 3 level game would not be very impressive after all the money Sony have put into this game.

skarekrow

07-03-2008, 05:35

Naw, ill keep my graphical masterpiece as it is and play Gears 2 with more levels on the pc a year later.

mickice

07-03-2008, 05:41

Just buy a PS3, play Killzone 2 then play Gears of War 1 and 2 on PC.
Theres really no need for the 360 to be part of this at all.

To be honest the gaming world could live without X-box.

Vulgotha

07-03-2008, 05:43

As i stated earlier. KZ2 levels are 2GB each.

A 3 level game would not be very impressive after all the money Sony have put into this game.

Well it isn't quite like that... The demo levels shown were 2GB apiece in total size because they had to use other assets from the game (weapons, character models, etc etc). Not to say that the levels won't be rather large in size and complexity, but it isn't as if "Each and every level of our game is around or above the 2GB area".

But KZ2 is a technical masterpiece to marvel at.

Lil_Mermaid_Girl

07-03-2008, 06:09

No, I'm sick of so many shooters anyways, and good exclusives make gaming fun and keep developers on their toes, especially 1st party developers.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 06:10

i can't believe you said mgs4 textures own crysis textures, dude you are out of your mind. Secondly the only game i play on Pc is GEARS OF WAR. THAT's IT. Thirdly, the textures of mgs4 have nothing on textures of crysis. That crap up there looks like crap, what is it with the lines on the concrete walls??? the game looks so much better than that, run it in VERY HIGH.
That is an IGN screenshot, so they were running it in very high. Obviously, I have all the things backing me. Like I said, PS3 fans, 360 fans (lol), and the critics all agree. MGS4 cutscenes have better visuals than Crysis cutscenes.
BTW, I don't believe that MGS4 is technically greater than Crysis, obviously, Crysis crashes freaking NASA computers. But the motion capture, realistic animations, and small details like in facial expressions give MGS4 the upper edge in cutscenes. The 360 fansite says it blows Crysis cutscenes out of the water, so if you don't think there is at least competition, you are severely mistaken. BTW the textures in that MGS4 shot I posted are better than most Crysis shots I've seen so far. And Crysis shots have an advantage - you can run the settings on high to where your PC can't actually run the game more than 1 frame per second and take a shot like that that looks gorgeous. But MGS4 runs silky smooth, no putting settings on high, then getting bad framerate to take a shot. Anyways, when it all comes down to it, Killzone 2 devs have stated that Killzone 2 is only using 4 1/2 PPE's out of the 6 that are available, and that comment was very recent. That's 4 1/2 PPE's that they aren't even exploiting and finding all the loopholes and getting everything out of them. And look how insane Killzone 2 looks. By the end of the PS3's life cycle, we'll be seeing things at least Crysis level. Look at Resistance 2. 300 feet tall monsters, things that only the Cell processor can whip out.

Pollute? Yeah, because the ps3 has only high quality, movie grade games on it, right? :rolleyes: Some people enjoy "idiotic" chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain, contrary to popular belief
Yes, hardcore spazzes in America that don't want to think at all when they're playing a game do enjoy chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. You're correct.

ThaoNguyen

07-03-2008, 06:11

No. I'd say yes if I had any reason to believe that developers are willing to do anything other than port games or give mediocre development support to make multiplatform games, but history shows that they almost never are. I'd rather they make gow2 a good 360 game and kz2 a good ps3 game. I'm tired of these half-assed mediocre steaming piles of multiplatform ****.

left_senseless

07-03-2008, 06:11

i didn't like anything about gears except the way it looked. so for me it would be a solid no.

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 06:14

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6769/crysis20071102151055481fn2.jpg
http://www.crysis-online.com/Media/Screenshots/Screenshots/first_level_05.jpg

ok i'm not even going to look for more. That should be enough
Like I said, with Crysis you can put the settings on very high and run the game at 1 frame per second. Then take a shot. I'm sure the developers could do that with MGS4 also.
But to analyze those screeshots - In the first pic, look at the right. The foliage looks absolutely terrible. The textures of the rock also look terrible. In the second pic, the textures of the walls can't EVEN compare to the textures on the MGS4 wall I posted.

Metfanant

07-03-2008, 06:23

would i enjoy the GEoW series making its way to the PS3??? sure...but would i trade KZ2 for GEoW2?? nope....MS can keep it...

msdstc

07-03-2008, 06:27

Gears was incredibly Overrated IMO... but yet we barely know anything about KZ2 and how good that'll be. My money is on it being a great game, and I'd stick with that.

atomsk

07-03-2008, 06:34

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

MiNiMaL_sAnItY

07-03-2008, 07:02

Yes, hardcore spazzes in America that don't want to think at all when they're playing a game do enjoy chainsaw guns and grenades on a chain. You're correct.

What about hardcore spazzes who get angry over other people liking gears of war? Get over your high and mighty self!

NYFAN75

07-03-2008, 07:43

2 simple words for you.... HELL NO!!!!!!

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 07:44

Like I said, with Crysis you can put the settings on very high and run the game at 1 frame per second. Then take a shot. I'm sure the developers could do that with MGS4 also.
But to analyze those screeshots - In the first pic, look at the right. The foliage looks absolutely terrible. The textures of the rock also look terrible. In the second pic, the textures of the walls can't EVEN compare to the textures on the MGS4 wall I posted.
ugh, i have a 500 dollar build and at max settings at 1650x1080 in dx9 it doesn't drop below 8fps in a firefight. So don't go overboard on the fps. We're not talkigna bout how it will run, we're talking about what it looks like. Textures on the GROUND on Crysis on very high are better than textures on the suite of snake. Don't give me an octocamo exuse. I honeslty don't care though. Cuz personally Gears of war pc is the best game for me, adios bud. Go have the whole internet back you up, i could care less about your cutscnenes.

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 07:46

I will not ever do that. Gears has gotten kinda old to me and gears 2 wont be any different. It wont be much of a gain so ill stay with Killzone 2.

yep KZ2 looks way better than GEARS2 graphically

and in terms of gameplay it would live up to the hype

RESISTANCE 2 with 300 feet BOSS , 60 player online and 8 player co-op is the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME for FALL

I am quite sure RESISTANCE 2 will sell 2x as much GEARS2 in EUROPE

It will beat /match GEARS2 sales in USA

But in terms of WW sales R2 will easily outsell GEARS2 this FALL

Metfanant

07-03-2008, 07:47

ugh, i have a 500 dollar build and at max settings at 1650x1080 in dx9 it doesn't drop below 8fps in a firefight. So don't go overboard on the fps. We're not talkigna bout how it will run, we're talking about what it looks like. Textures on the GROUND on Crysis on very high are better than textures on the suite of snake. Don't give me an octocamo exuse. I honeslty don't care though. Cuz personally Gears of war pc is the best game for me, adios bud. Go have the whole internet back you up, i could care less about your cutscnenes.

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....

to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....

i mean honestly...im not even sure what this fight is about....currently MGS4 is the best looking console game, hands down IMO...Uncharted would be a close second (two TOTALLY different artistic styles though, so tough to compare)...

the PC is a whole different ballgame...if you want to shell out the money they go ahead...i'll stick with my PS3 my mediocre PC desktop, and my Apple laptop...

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 07:47

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

dont compare ultrarealistic KZ2 to GEARS2

GEARS2 looks just like UT3 .

It doesnt look as good as UNCHARTED so no need to compare it to KZ2

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 07:48

yep KZ2 looks way better than GEARS2 graphically

and in terms of gameplay it would live up to the hype

RESISTANCE 2 with 300 feet BOSS , 60 player online and 8 player co-op is the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME for FALL

I am quite sure RESISTANCE 2 will sell 2x as much GEARS2 in EUROPE

It will beat /match GEARS2 sales in USA

But in terms of WW sales R2 will easily outsell GEARS2 this FALL
hopefully, i will def. pick up resistance 2. So many people will pick up Gears 2 though, don't underestimate it.

NYFAN75

07-03-2008, 07:50

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....

to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good catch my friend +rep when my 24hrs is up....:?

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 07:52

hopefully, i will def. pick up resistance 2. So many people will pick up Gears 2 though, don't underestimate it.

yea but more will pick up RESISTANCE 2

It killed all FPS hype with that 300 feet BOSS

expect RESISTANCE 2 to outsell GEARS2 2:1 in EUROPE

In WW sales it will be dead EVEN

But ofcourse the LEVIATHAN footage at e3 will CRUSH the hopes of many games this E3

SONY is on a roll here

leukoplast

07-03-2008, 07:55

Heck no, GeOW is one of the most overrated games out on the market (basically, Halos replacement in hype.)

Really, all I need to say here is Unreal Engine. Any game that uses that, is a game I will never play.

Two4DaMoney

07-03-2008, 07:56

Also I think the argument of "can't be done on X360" is getting tiresome. We know its possible.
We know the ps3 and 360 are about equal. But why haven't we seen such a game on the 360 yet when it has had a one year jump on the ps3?

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 08:06

If killzone 2 can be ported onto the 360 it just means that companys still arnt using the extra room on the blu ray disc and pushing the ps3, Which would be dissapointing.

The CELL processor beats anything out there in terms of sheer processing power

It is like 10x XENON

There is no way KZ2 could be done on x360

there are 23 ps3 games which run at 1080p native with 6 running at 1080p native at 60 fps ---includes GT5P

However there is nothing on x360 that can run at 1080p NATIVE

PS3 is way more powerful than X360. there is no doubt there. It is just harder to program

Metfanant

07-03-2008, 08:06

crysis has the best graphics i've seen in a video game and i doubt current gen consoles will ever reach that level, the end.

both killzone and gow are boring.

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....

Black

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/684/684449/black-20060130105904556.jpg

Silent Scope

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/scope/silentscope_10.jpg

Unreal Tournament

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/unreal/unrealt_4.jpg

then tell me....that there is no way the PS3 can make an improvement from this....

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/881/881472/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080612044115030.jpg

and this...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826994/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20071012021545310.jpg

to this....

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/830/830713/crysis-20071026034210066.jpg

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/803/803286/crysis-20070711023146589.jpg

and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...

edit: and mind you...remember that we are talking video game consoles here...not bloated PC's....

Black was achieved with the PS2's knock your socks off specs of

CPU clock speed: an OJ Simpson "high speed" chase worthy 294.912 MHz (BLAZING FAST)

System Memory size: a herculean 32MB!! (Barry Bonds wants your steriod dealer's number!)

GPU clock speed: 147.456MHz (That thing got a Hemi?!)

not to mention the massive 4MB of embedded DRAM for the GPU....

you show me a PC with THOSE specs that could match the PS2....

remember...consoles don't need the extravagant numbers to do impressive things...

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 08:08

Deep down inside I know PS3 owners would love to see Gears 2 for the PS3 whether they like the game or not just for the heck of it. Also I think the argument of "can't be done on X360" is getting tiresome. We know its possible.

We all know it is IMPOSSIBLE

There is nothing on X360 that rivals UNCHARTED graphically

There is njothing on x360 that runs at 1080P at 60 FPS like the ultrarealistic GT5P/ WIPEOUT HD

RaceworX

07-03-2008, 08:11

sod gears of war! killzone is actually a FPS im intrested in playing...

also why all this talk of crysis?? you 360 guys must really be scrapping the barrel if the best offence you have is a game that requires an uber PC to run it at anything close to MGS4 beating quality and last i checked wasnt even on the Xbox... but could actually be coming to the PS3

what will happen to your arguments if that happens??

lordXenu

07-03-2008, 08:12

leukoplast

07-03-2008, 08:16

Good post Metfanant. And yeah, you have a very good point there, we are only in the beginning stages of the PS3. I can only imagine the games coming out in a few years for the PS3. MGS4, and Uncharted are only the start, and they are already pretty darn amazing, even in comparison to games like Crysis its already pretty close.

Alpha2

07-03-2008, 08:22

Hell no.

If I want to play 'Gears I'll get a PC to play it on. it's not like you need an 36* to play 36* exclusives.

Two4DaMoney

07-03-2008, 08:31

I'm sure no one expected anything like Black to be possible on the ps2. I need to find that game, I never got to play it.

carlosb

07-03-2008, 08:52

Insanehead

07-03-2008, 09:01

Its becoming another "vs graphics" thread that got previous one locked.

360DiedOnMe

07-03-2008, 09:03

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....

Black

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/684/684449/black-20060130105904556.jpg

Silent Scope

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/scope/silentscope_10.jpg

Unreal Tournament

http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/unreal/unrealt_4.jpg

then tell me....that there is no way the PS3 can make an improvement from this....

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/881/881472/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots--20080612044115030.jpg

and this...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/826/826994/uncharted-drakes-fortune-20071012021545310.jpg

to this....

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/830/830713/crysis-20071026034210066.jpg

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/803/803286/crysis-20070711023146589.jpg

and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...

edit: and mind you...remember that we are talking video game consoles here...not bloated PC's....

Black was achieved with the PS2's knock your socks off specs of

CPU clock speed: an OJ Simpson "high speed" chase worthy 294.912 MHz (BLAZING FAST)

System Memory size: a herculean 32MB!! (Barry Bonds wants your steriod dealer's number!)

GPU clock speed: 147.456MHz (That thing got a Hemi?!)

not to mention the massive 4MB of embedded DRAM for the GPU....

you show me a PC with THOSE specs that could match the PS2....

remember...consoles don't need the extravagant numbers to do impressive things...
no hole, if i keep it on high and not very high and keep it at 1280x720 i will run about 34fps. Pretty good huh??? still looks better than any console games. Idk what the deal is with you guys, i always defend my ps3 but on this one it's not going to happen. PS3 or 360 will never have crysis calibur graphics on them. If you haven't played the game maxed out then don't comparet it.

BTW now enlarge all of the screens and look at how much is going on uncharted (loved the game) and how much detail there is in crysis. it's a WHOLE world not an alleyway.

TheMadTitan

07-03-2008, 09:08

yes i would make kz2 multiplat for gears multiplat.

msdstc

07-03-2008, 09:10

Ehh the crysis debate happens all the time. I agree it'll never be played on PS3 maxed out, maybe on gimped settings. The thing is though, that's because of the physics, and everything going on is in realtime. Games can look that good if they find ways to cheat to make it look good. Killzone 2 has better art direction and uses scripted events to achieve the look, and IMO looks much better than crysis. It's cleaner, smoother, the lighting looks better, etc. Let's not forget the scale and size of lair people... the game sucked, but the graphics were incredible.

RedDragon7

07-03-2008, 09:20

I'm not as excited for Gears 2 as I am for Killzone 2. No offense to Gears 2 but I'm just not impressed... yet. Besides that I'm not sure its technically possible. Regardless, its legally impossible.

durbanyte

07-03-2008, 09:29

Whilst I like Gears, I wouldnt. Almost all multiplat games have been inferior on the PS3 than on the 360, gears would be aswell. I'll just stick to KZ2 and let 360 fans keep gears.

I think Resistance 2 will blow out both of them though

MiNiMaL_sAnItY

07-03-2008, 09:31

well, hold me back...8fps? must be one buttery smooth gaming experience right there....

to think...people complained when when Madden and NCAA 08 ran only 30fps....

i mean honestly...im not even sure what this fight is about....currently MGS4 is the best looking console game, hands down IMO...Uncharted would be a close second (two TOTALLY different artistic styles though, so tough to compare)...

the PC is a whole different ballgame...if you want to shell out the money they go ahead...i'll stick with my PS3 my mediocre PC desktop, and my Apple laptop...

He's running the game at 1680x1050 res while consoles cant even do proper 720p right now.

Criterion Games called....and wants you to compare Black to some PS2 launch titles....and then tell me that there is NO WAY the PS3 can't make the leap....

[images]

and THEN...while you try and explain yourself out of the hole you dug yourself into...could you tell me 1. What percentage of PC gamers, let alone PC users, have a PC capable of even trying to run Crysis??....and 2. what percentage of PC games even approach the visuals of Crysis??...

Agreed about the progression of graphics on consoles. But right now, there isnt a game that can match the visual fidelity of crysis on very high. Crysis sold 1mil copies, so gamers have bought it no doubt.

richkaos

07-03-2008, 09:36

The title says the question.latley iv bean hearing that people will do anything to get Gear of War 2 to be on the ps3, and making that sacrifice will be killzone 2. Any one agree or disagree to question?

Couldnt give a monkeys arse about gears of war, and if you have been hearing that people have been making these noises you need to tell them to get a life or a 360. Do you not think we have enough FPS games???
:gta:

Syugo

07-03-2008, 09:37

Girugamesh

07-03-2008, 10:03

no hole, if i keep it on high and not very high and keep it at 1280x720 i will run about 34fps. Pretty good huh??? still looks better than any console games. Idk what the deal is with you guys, i always defend my ps3 but on this one it's not going to happen. PS3 or 360 will never have crysis calibur graphics on them. If you haven't played the game maxed out then don't comparet it.

BTW now enlarge all of the screens and look at how much is going on uncharted (loved the game) and how much detail there is in crysis. it's a WHOLE world not an alleyway.
Hmmm. Let's think that one over for a second, shall we? Uncharted was using how much of the Cell processor again? 30%? Oh, that's right, look it up on google. And that's not even exploiting that 30% Taking a look at that PS2 progression from launch games to black, we will be seeing Crysis level graphics at very MINIMUM on the PS3 before it's all over with.

He's running the game at 1680x1050 res while consoles cant even do proper 720p right now.
At 8fps. LOL...

And @ that stupid 360 has same power as PS3 argument up there. Please, get over it. You can't be in that much denial. It's impossible. The PS3 is roughly 40 - 55% more powerful than the 360 without hardware exploitation.

xsjinsx

07-03-2008, 10:06

I have played both of the originals and GOW got boring really quick. I preferred the online multi player of halo compared to GOW.

nofear01

07-03-2008, 10:10

Ultimately, what would be the point in this?

I mean if Sony gave them Killzone 2, just for GoW2 then what would be the point the point in two consoles?

DangerousMali

07-03-2008, 10:11

Ultimately, what would be the point in this?

I mean if Sony gave them Killzone 2, just for GoW2 then what would be the point the point in two consoles?

:suspect: its not like they agreed they would both make console's

renegadevikingPS3

07-03-2008, 10:54

Killzone 2 won't be the best selling game anywayz. GoW was the best selling X360 game pre-Halo 3 and GoW2 will be the best selling X360 title post-Halo 3. Yes, I would give up Killzone 2.

Stoffinator

07-03-2008, 11:02

They can keep Gears of War 2 thank you. I much rather have Killzone 2.

RaceworX

07-03-2008, 11:02

You should really reread the thread to see who brought up Crysis.

It shouldnt have ben braught up in the first place.. were talking gears and killzone next minuite weve got people slating MGS4 as not being as good as crysis which isnt even on a console.. this thread needs locking down as its turned into a slag fest bettween 2 games that arnt even being discussed..

rickyp

07-03-2008, 11:03

I think a lot of people are taking this the wrong way, you arent trading the games, you could infact own them both.

In saying that, if the option to own both instead of 1 was there, of course i'd take it, but until that day (rumours say it will be in the year never) i will enjoy kz2

Strudel

07-03-2008, 11:04

not a chance in hell, I'd rather buy a 360 for gears than have some shoddy port, also, I doubt if Killzone 2 would run very well on a 360, and would probably need to be put on 2 or 3 discs.

Dasimpse

07-03-2008, 11:06

YouTube - The most realistic graphics ever. More realistic than crysis (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xYPr9L_7UuE&feature=related)

LMAO now on the real note, here you go bud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPi0AhQgrDs&feature=related (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pPi0AhQgrDs&feature=related)

that second video, of crysis, is absolutely mindblowing!!! no console will come close to that this gen, when you actually know whats going on, jeeez lousie! the lightin looks more or less real, the amount of foliage is insane levels, all bending, haze's dont even bend you just walk through them. crysis is absolutley nuts, ive not even seent hat part of the game as i refuse to play it untill its completely maxxed out. i just do the first 3 levels over and over again. From those 3 parts i can say, while mgs is awesome, a crysis cutscene blows(GRAPHICALLY) a mgs cutscene out of the water, ther eis just no comparison. can someone take screens or a movie grab of he opening scene in the plane on very high, just look at the guys faces, they are more or less perfect humnan faces with stubble and marks and everything. MGS, wjile styling it, is awesome, crysis is just nuts and takes the cake. I honestly dnt get why people still try and argue. they obviousley havnt seen crysis in front of them on very high.

on the topic of the thread, of both games were to be identical to what the dev wanted and no cutbacks due to porting, of course they should both be on both platfroms. Only an idiot would take one game when you could have 2

Nunalho

07-03-2008, 11:26

One can have Gears on the PC if he wants to, so no...

And KZ could never be achieved on the 360, at least like it is today.

radgamer420

07-03-2008, 11:27

I own both systems so I get to play both of those games.

DangerousMali

07-03-2008, 11:34

I own both systems so I get to play both of those games.

yeah same here hopefully the single player is awesome on Gow, im more hyped for resistance 2 it's bringing more to the table with its crazy weapons, huge boss battles and massive unique multiplayer

GoW seems to be same same with polish, hopefully im wrong

Hyrius

07-03-2008, 11:44

Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gears 2. So no.

And you'll be able to play Gears 2 on PC like the first one ( superior version ).

pizza_nizar

07-03-2008, 11:47

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!
:-d:-d:-d

admartian

07-03-2008, 11:47

Irrelevant Crysis pics
ok i'm not even going to look for more. That should be enough
Why is Crysis on a thread about Killzone 2 and Gears?

If I were to apply the formula unto Crysis; I wouldn't swap Gears 2 or Killzone 2 for Crysis. These "inferior" console games have that much more "meat" in them.

Straits

07-03-2008, 11:55

I don't think gears of war is actually any good... so its an obvious no from me :P

Also, if Gears of war was actually good, i'd get it for half the price with better graphics on PC (same with mass effect, halo and other xbox "exclusives" :D) thats the great thing about microsoft, theres no reason for a PC owner to waste money on an xbox :P

three3-times

07-03-2008, 12:01

as i own both consoles, i aim to get both games!! think gow2 is coming out 1st anyway. BUT if i just had my ps3, i think i may swap as i know nothing about killzone 1 and have played gow1 and loved it. however i know ALOT of money is going into killzone 2

radgamer420

07-03-2008, 12:05

Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gears 2. So no.

And you'll be able to play Gears 2 on PC like the first one ( superior version ).

Superior version if you have plenty of disposable income to pay for a rig good enough to be superior. And if you play it on PC its still a MS platform. As for Killzone 2 I think Gears 2 looks better and looks like it will be a better game.

VintageElise

07-03-2008, 12:05

Ok im going to be the odd one out here. But I dont want KZ2, I do want GeOW2 though. It just looks like a much better game.

LittleB69

07-03-2008, 12:11

I like Multiplatform games when they are done well... I really do not care if they come on one or two platforms.. I would never buy Gears of War 2 and im still on a hold concerning Killzone 2.. but if I buy any of them it will be Killzone 2 on PS3 and Gears of War 2 on PC.. All the decent 360 games are released on PC anyways..so it is not like we are missing out!

Shader

07-03-2008, 12:20

I don't think gears of war is actually any good...

Neither do I, so I don't really care about GoW2 that much, unless they drastically change some key parts. Seeing as I have both consoles the swap wouldn't make any difference to me anyway.

T-Dogg400

07-03-2008, 12:30

Killzone2 can stay where they are, for all i know it is much better than Gears 2.

DangerousMali

07-03-2008, 12:38

Neither do I, so I don't really care about GoW2 that much, unless they drastically change some key parts. Seeing as I have both consoles the swap wouldn't make any difference to me anyway.

it would make a difference because exclusive title's usually perform better on its platform

samonuske

07-03-2008, 12:47

i would do it, gears is great, but too short.

Harrow

07-03-2008, 14:33

I would say yes because I would be interested to see how Killzone comes out on the 360, and how Gears 2 would look on the PS3.

I am not sure Killzone 2 would be the same game on the 360 without a standard HDD and without Blu-Ray, but it would probably be close enough to be a great game.

lintama

07-03-2008, 14:49

Definetly not.

But then Killzone would have to be dumbed down.

KZ2's levels take up around 2GB each so we'd get like 3 levels overall. :dunce

Yeah the levels are 2GB, tie in vehicles, sound, character models, and music, and I think you would have a game that would barely fit one level on a DVD9. Besides the game uses 5 spe's(4.5 wtfe) so counting the RSX, its using roughly 6.5 processing units to run, the PPU, the SPE's, and the RSX. So it would take a miricle for that to run on the 360. I just don't think it could without a MAJOR overhaul, which, isn't going to happen.

king87

07-03-2008, 16:57

yeah same here hopefully the single player is awesome on Gow, im more hyped for resistance 2 it's bringing more to the table with its crazy weapons, huge boss battles and massive unique multiplayer

GoW seems to be same same with polish, hopefully im wrong

the same with more polish??no way man!!they said its going to be bigger,badder and more badass.........

Vulgotha

07-03-2008, 18:31

Why is Crysis on a thread about Killzone 2 and Gears?

If I were to apply the formula unto Crysis; I wouldn't swap Gears 2 or Killzone 2 for Crysis. These "inferior" console games have that much more "meat" in them.

What it's usually doing there my friend..

girlgamer1984

07-03-2008, 18:40

KZ is built from the ground up; porting it over to 360 or making it a multiplatform game will hurt its visuals drastically. Also, the thread starter seems to be living in a world of illusions, as this is never happening, considering GG being the first party devs. So, isn't this whole thread downright pointless?

Metfanant

07-03-2008, 18:58

I think the 360 could make KZ2 work...but there would need to be a SERIOUS re-working of the game....lots of compression of textures, possible multiple discs etc...idk if the visuals would take a huge hit...but it would need A LOT of work...

crooky369

07-03-2008, 19:10

I Don' t get it why wouldn't you want two likely AAA games?

Behemoko

07-03-2008, 19:16

I say yes. I want me some acheivements for Killzone 2. :mrgreen:

KZ is built from the ground up; porting it over to 360 or making it a multiplatform game will hurt its visuals drastically. Also, the thread starter seems to be living in a world of illusions, as this is never happening, considering GG being the first party devs. So, isn't this whole
thread downright pointless?

It is a question of personal choice, not on the likelyness of this happening.

Beemer

07-03-2008, 19:33

No, because money says Gears 2 will end up on PC within 1-2 years. Not to mention the development time necessary to make the games for both systems would drastically hurt the quality of the game.

Gambit

07-03-2008, 19:51

No, because money says Gears 2 will end up on PC within 1-2 years. Not to mention the development time necessary to make the games for both systems would drastically hurt the quality of the game.yeah gears 1 has been on the pc,but what makes you say gears 2 will?it might not end up on the pc.

Rik

07-04-2008, 02:38

No, I wouldn't make that exchange. Steroids Of War can stay on the 360. Like many others posters above me have posted, a 360 version of Killzone 2 would have to be a watered down version.

skarekrow

07-04-2008, 03:14

yeah gears 1 has been on the pc,but what makes you say gears 2 will?it might not end up on the pc.

Because its MS. :-| Even Halo eventually makes it to the pc and thats their console exclusive. :confused:

Beemer

07-04-2008, 03:41

yeah gears 1 has been on the pc,but what makes you say gears 2 will?it might not end up on the pc.

Well, Halo, Halo 2, Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo Wars and Alan Wake are all on or going to be on PC. MS moves a majority of its big exclusives to PC eventually to suck even more money out of them. Why would they suddenly stop?

Insanehead

07-04-2008, 03:44

yeah gears 1 has been on the pc,but what makes you say gears 2 will?it might not end up on the pc.

You need a stronger argument than just simply stating "it might not end up on the pc".

wonders1982

07-04-2008, 14:36

No, just for the fact I have both systems and I wouldn't want them wasting resources making these games multi-plat.

mickice

07-04-2008, 14:43

Of course people want this game to go multi-plat! It's gonna be amazing plus this title has an almost unlimited budget.

GuitarrassDeAmor

07-04-2008, 16:32

Hell no. I wouldn't trade Gears of Killzone ANY day.

girlgamer1984

07-04-2008, 16:41

There should have been a pole here on this perticular topic. I am pretty sure majority will not trade KZ for Gears.

Vulgotha

07-04-2008, 16:42

360DiedOnMe

07-05-2008, 05:40

Hmmm. Let's think that one over for a second, shall we? Uncharted was using how much of the Cell processor again? 30%? Oh, that's right, look it up on google. And that's not even exploiting that 30% Taking a look at that PS2 progression from launch games to black, we will be seeing Crysis level graphics at very MINIMUM on the PS3 before it's all over with.

At 8fps. LOL...

And @ that stupid 360 has same power as PS3 argument up there. Please, get over it. You can't be in that much denial. It's impossible. The PS3 is roughly 40 - 55% more powerful than the 360 without hardware exploitation.
think about your logic kid, you are so gullible about what you hear. Ok, so let's say they really are using 30 percent of it's (power). Why wouldn't they use more??? If they know that's all they are using then what is the problem with getting more juice out of it??? I will bet you any amount of money or anything you want, there won't be a cryris calibur graphics game on the console this gen. BTW i hate microsoft and i love my ps3, but where doyou get your 40-55 percent more powerful thing from??? We don't know this yet, but i bet the developers are not as bad as we t hink they are. Once again, there won't be crysis like graphics on a console this gen, i just wish i could :snicker in your face when this gen is over.

LeisureSuitLarry

07-05-2008, 05:44

Don't care for Gears, but I can't trade anything that I don't have.

Beemer

07-05-2008, 05:52

think about your logic kid, you are so gullible about what you hear. Ok, so let's say they really are using 30 percent of it's (power). Why wouldn't they use more??? If they know that's all they are using then what is the problem with getting more juice out of it??? I will bet you any amount of money or anything you want, there won't be a cryris calibur graphics game on the console this gen. BTW i hate microsoft and i love my ps3, but where doyou get your 40-55 percent more powerful thing from??? We don't know this yet, but i bet the developers are not as bad as we t hink they are. Once again, there won't be crysis like graphics on a console this gen, i just wish i could :snicker in your face when this gen is over.

The % calculated is usually done (fuzzy math wise) by determining the number of cores used and the efficiency of each core. 100% would be 7 cores (since 1 is used for the OS) running at 100% efficiency. But as stated by all developers, its truly impossible to use 100% of the power.

Developers choose not to use cores if they don't need them. Using another core would require the PPE to keep track of another SPE. If you can get away with using less cores to get the same result, do it.

And there is no "use more power" slider for the developers. You can't just turn on the power. Part of it is knowledge of the system and architecture, the other is determining how much you actually want to put into the game. For example, it took a while for developers in the PC industry to get the hang of developing for multiple core CPUs. Many programs didn't truly take advantage of multiple cores until just a few years ago. The same goes for the PS3. It has a complex architecture that can not be mastered the first go around. As the developers continue to get experience and continue to learn about the PS3, the more efficient they can make their games and the more they can get out of the console.

360DiedOnMe

07-05-2008, 05:55

The % calculated is usually done (fuzzy math wise) by determining the number of cores used and the efficiency of each core. 100% would be 7 cores (since 1 is used for the OS) running at 100% efficiency. But as stated by all developers, its truly impossible to use 100% of the power.

Developers choose not to use cores if they don't need them. Using another core would require the PPE to keep track of another SPE. If you can get away with using less cores to get the same result, do it.

And there is no "use more power" slider for the developers. You can't just turn on the power. Part of it is knowledge of the system and architecture, the other is determining how much you actually want to put into the game. For example, it took a while for developers in the PC industry to get the hang of developing for multiple core CPUs. Many programs didn't truly take advantage of multiple cores until just a few years ago. The same goes for the PS3. It has a complex architecture that can not be mastered the first go around. As the developers continue to get experience and continue to learn about the PS3, the more efficient they can make their games and the more they can get out of the console.
that is what i am saying, there is no use more power slider so they technically could be very far off as how much power they are using. We'll see i guess, but crysis graphics are not com ing to a console near us until next gen.

PXG S3

07-05-2008, 06:02

Hey, the more the merrier. I would love for my PS3 brethren to experience the awesome manly, heart pounding gore fest, that is Gears of War. I would hope that Epic would do all they could to optimize their engine, so that it could run as smoothly as possible. However, because how horribly designed PSN is, the online would not be as good as it should be.

All of ya'll talking **** about Gears need to seriously shut the **** up. You're lucky I'm not there behind you, slapping you upside the head.

Beemer

07-05-2008, 06:03

that is what i am saying, there is no use more power slider so they technically could be very far off as how much power they are using. We'll see i guess, but crysis graphics are not com ing to a console near us until next gen.

Like I said, its fuzzy math used by the devs. They guesstimate how much they could theoretically get out of the console, and base it off that. Yea, its not exact but we're seeing games improve and we're also hearing of devs using more power from the PS3.

You'd be surprised. Towards the end of the PS2's life span devs were getting really good graphics out of it. Look at God of War 2, then look at a first year PS2 game. Huge difference.

A7MAD

07-06-2008, 06:14

I'm all for everyone having a chance to play the same titles, but top tier games need to stay exclusive.

You want Gears 2? Buy a X360
You want KZ2? Buy a PS3!

Personally KZ2 has wowed me with its visuals whilst Gears 2 has wowed me with visuals and features that separate it from the first. KZ2 has more riding on it as Sony can really make something of it and use the engine technology for many other future PS3 titles if it's fruitful, so I'm hoping KZ2 excels whilst I believe Gears 2 will.

Fenix

07-06-2008, 06:49

Gears of War, in my opinion, is not that great. Yet, to me, Killzone 2 is crap aswell.. lmfao. XD

babyface

07-06-2008, 23:34

I understand it's not a popular point of view, but I think ALL games should be on ALL platforms (except the Wii, ha ha).

A7MAD

07-07-2008, 18:36

yeah gears 1 has been on the pc,but what makes you say gears 2 will?it might not end up on the pc.

There's no doubting Gears 2 will make it's way to the PC but look at it from a business stand point and understand it's one of the smartest moves because like many here who wouldn't buy an X360, MS still gets their money when they buy Gears 2 to play on a PC housing an MS operating system... All in all MS has both routes taken care of this way and again it's a very wise business move imo.