View Full Version : !!!MUST READ!!! Idea for Design Squad
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 21:28
This was just an idea I had and I consulted Rebon (webmaster of PS3land) and admin of PS3forums about it. I was also thinking of talking to Morpheus (webmaster of PS3portal) and admin of PS3forums about it as well. I also wanted to ask what you guys think too. So here it is:
I was thinking for PS3land's new website that we will be launching soon, maybe before E3, and maybe PS3portal... that we would have a section for people to buy packages of game wallpapers, sigs, avatars, and maybe a screensaver that would be designed by the Design Squad here at the PS3forums.
I was thinking maybe for anywhere to $1-$3 for example you could buy a Devil May Cry package that would include; 2 wallpapers, 2 sigs, 3 avatars, and maybe a Screensaver. $1 would go to the website webmaster, and then $2 would go into a paypal account for the Design Squad to split either evenly or by amount of work done at the end of each month. I was thinking that it could be a big thing. We could create a package or multiple packages for all the upcoming PS3 games. For example: Devil May Cry package #1, #2, #3, and maybe for a deal price of $5 you get all packages in one.
It would be a major money maker I think or at least it a try. Ps3land alone gets anywhere from 35,000 to over 100,000 viewers a day and with teh new layout coming it will be somthing similar to Gamespot or something...and if we can get PS3portal to help out that adds another 35,000 to 100,000 viewers a day. Think, if we can get even a small fraction of those people to buy game packages and we upkeep them with new games and new content all the time this could be a huge money maker.
So....what do you guys think??? I want to hear from the Design Squad along with other PS3forums members to hear if you think this could actually work!
good Idea, but I am worried, I think some design members may have fights about
"who gets the money"...
how will you distribute everything?
Thorzilla
04-05-2006, 21:32
I think it is a great idea.
With the talent some DS members have for design, i am sure that you will make some money.
However, maybe a free downloadable wallpaper so people see what stytle of wallpaper they are buying would work perfectly...
If you ever need a hand, even if i am an outter of the DS, just PM me, and i could voluntier.
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I think its actually a good idea, maybe something like 2 bucks is the right price. Also they have to be TOP TOP quality if you want people to buy them
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 21:40
Okay to answer those questions or advice:
Distributing money: for one...its something I thought I would discuss with the DS but my idea was something like a requirement per month and we split the proceedings...now I realize that some packages would sell more than others and thats something we would have to talk about. Or maybe for each package each DS member must create something whether its a sig or avatar or wallpaper and we would switch off on each package. Now we could also do something like each member can create thier own packages of all thier own stuff and all the money that is made from it they get to keep.
Pricing: yeah $2 does sound good. I havent decided how much would go in each package whether it would be 6 items or more...that would decide price. but a percent would go to the webmasters of the website and the rest would go to the DS members. Also I was thinking for people who want all the packages there would be a savings price.
good idea, but ofcourse the DS should discuss about the money, and the price etc. Ofcourse only the best avatars and signatures should be in....
Skribble
04-05-2006, 22:06
Sounds pretty good. They will need to be REALLY AWESOME wallpapers and stuff though, really awesome.
I think $2 is ok. 50c to the site owner, and $1.50 to us, then all money collected at the end of the month (we all have access to the same account so we know.) the money is divided evenly. Unless there is an outcry that someone wasn't around and didn't work, etc.
BloodshedDude
04-05-2006, 22:09
How about $1 for the board and $2 to the creator? That way you encourage people to do their best work.
Suikoden Fantasy
04-05-2006, 22:10
Eh I don't want to pay money.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 22:14
Yeah... Price is something we should discuss....Like I said depending on how much comes in each package would help come up with price as well. And I agree with Skirbble...it would make it much much easier to just have it go into one big pot and at the end of each month we divide it evenly.
Also, yes it would be only the best work by the Design Squad. We would spend hours coming up with the designs and thats why we would evenly get the money. I think it would help too if we all did work in each package or tried to make it even work in each package that way it makes it easier to say we divide it evenly.
Plus I have now doubt that our work will be the best and most impressive. Still, I ahve talked to Rebon and he said it is definitly something to think about and could possibly be something that will be on the upcoming new PS3Land design.
Eh I dont want to pay money
Well not everyone is going to buy them...this will be for people who want to support the DS for all their work and for general public whodont know about our Design Corner in the forums where you can have people design quality sigs and avatars for free. Also, we will offer more than just sigs and avatars in the packages....this is also something to discuss, what we will include in each package and of course which games to cover first.
Thorzilla
04-05-2006, 22:34
I got a small idea.
Maybe every member of the DS makes a Wallpaper and they are all packed. That way, money could be easily distributed.
For example, noticing that a few members of the DS are unactive right now, lets think that NUM, VP, Coolio, Trib, Skribble and maybe NU4aName make 1 wallpaper each...
If the package is worth 3DL, each member would get .5DL.
Do you think this is any good? Another thing to take care of, would be distribution.
I mean, after a buyer downloads the wallpaper, he can do everything, even distribute them all through PMing in the forums...Any ideas of how to solve this?
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JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 22:41
For one...Rebon and I am sure Morpheus have lawyers and our work in these packages would be copyright protected. Rebon and Morphues would own the rights since it would be displayed on their websites. Also, we would have to proably rely on people being nice about everything and not jipping us out of our hard work....Like I said before, this is just an idea and I need all teh advice I can get. I would really like it, so DS members can start earning money for their Designs, ya know.
Thorzilla
04-05-2006, 22:44
Sounds good to have copyrighted stuff.
Maybe you guys could come up with a logo you can put in the lower part of a wallpaper...
One question, can you please take 2 minutes of your time to fix the RT signature from Thorzilla Chief to Thorzilla.
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Perfect Sin
04-05-2006, 22:46
You could do something like Digitalblasphemy.com does...They offer a free section and a Member section. The free wallpapers anyone can download. The member's section (which tends to be the best looking wallpapers) you have to pay for.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 22:48
Yeah...I talked to Rebon about that kinda...
Since we will ahve user accounts, maybe having a premium member account that you pay per month for gets you high quality wallpapers and such and maybe even Latest News that other members have to wait for or interviews when E3 rolls around. And HD videos to download.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 22:50
Sounds good to have copyrighted stuff.
Maybe you guys could come up with a logo you can put in the lower part of a wallpaper...
One question, can you please take 2 minutes of your time to fix the RT signature from Thorzilla Chief to Thorzilla.
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It takes a little longer than 2 min to change the animation and such...Plus I am leaving here soon. Like I said in the sig rating thread. I will get that all done tomarrow.
NUMA NUMA
04-05-2006, 22:51
It will be a great way to utilize th DS's talents :D
soldier one
04-05-2006, 22:52
its a good idea bad idea thing. will we still be able to get free avatars and stuff as members? or will we pay too? i can manage making my own instead of paying for it for example. it may turn people away. but its a good idea if you guys can get it going.
Thorzilla
04-05-2006, 22:54
Got it NUM.
Sounds like a great idea to have a members section.
The DS would get the member section for free i guess...
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JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 22:55
members here at the forum can still request for FREE sigs and such...this is more for the general visitors that come to the websites during E3 and such. Also for people who are wanting to support the DS for all our work we have done for everyone in the past. Kinda like a donation, but its worth a try...plus, what if it really takes off??? This could be a big money maker. Not to mention the Webmasters have nothing to lose
Perfect Sin
04-05-2006, 23:06
If you were to sell sigs and avatars you'd have to make sure that a newbie isn't able to request one. He might realize he could pay for a sig or just post a couple mindless posts and get one for free.
soldier one
04-05-2006, 23:07
members here at the forum can still request for FREE sigs and such...this is more for the general visitors that come to the websites during E3 and such. Also for people who are wanting to support the DS for all our work we have done for everyone in the past. Kinda like a donation, but its worth a try...plus, what if it really takes off??? This could be a big money maker. Not to mention the Webmasters have nothing to lose
i have a idea to fix the thought. you guys should make a certain number of posts you got to get to in order to get free ones. that way a member cant come just post once or twice ask then leave. i see what your doing though and it looks like a really good idea. man wish i was in lol. :lol:
Tribunal
04-05-2006, 23:08
I don't think it would fly to well, but we could try.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:11
Well I think we will still design things for people in the forums like we are doing now....this idea is just for PS3 portal and PS3land websites....they will ahve seperate links on thier nav bars to a marketplace to buy this stuff.
Also, I am planning on getting maybe 2 more members now. We no longer have Cap826 and NoUse4Name and I have also talked of getting a few more anyway. Oh and we lost Affinity for a while. I dont know if he wants back in....
soldier one
04-05-2006, 23:14
Also, I am planning on getting maybe 2 more members now. We no longer have Cap826 and NoUse4Name and I have also talked of getting a few more anyway. Oh and we lost Affinity for a while. I dont know if he wants back in....
yea but its me. ill try but well. its just looking that my sig in the contest has no votes thats throughing me off lol.
Thorzilla
04-05-2006, 23:17
One problem. Earned money would be delivered to a credit card or through bank check?
That is noe thing to notice, as some of the DS memberes are -18 years and might not have credit card...
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soldier one
04-05-2006, 23:19
One problem. Earned money would be delivered to a credit card or through bank check?
That is noe thing to notice, as some of the DS memberes are -18 years and might not have credit card...
thats a good point. im sure it can be worked out though.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:20
Well it would accumulate on PayPal and dispurcement would go to people's specific paypal accounts where they have choices for the money... spend it online, bank check, paypal debit card, direct deposit, ect.
Tribunal
04-05-2006, 23:23
So are we going to have it as individual efforts and you get what people pay for yours, or is it just what we make as a whole.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:26
Well, thats what I am trying to figure out...What do you guys want to do? I think as long as everyone works together on a somewhat equal level we just split everything equally.
Tribunal
04-05-2006, 23:28
I'm alright with it, lets see we have 6 squad members ATM. Split that with three dollars a pack, thats 50 cents for each of us for everything sold. And actually that could add up really fast...
EDIT: And actually, we could do $4 so that way the squad as a whole gets the $3 to split and each extra dollar goes to PS3land and PS3portal.
soldier one
04-05-2006, 23:34
Well, thats what I am trying to figure out...What do you guys want to do? I think as long as everyone works together on a somewhat equal level we just split everything equally.
im not part of the squad so mabe i would thin differntly but i think you guys should work on separate ones but have them assigned. kinda like you take theese games and stuff and you can take this stuff. like the review team, we have it split to where some work on playstation others on xbox, but we arnt held to that type for instance i work on playstation but i can do a xbox review if needed. that way someone cant get a share for doing nothing, kinda like a job. i also dont think it would be fair to the person that makes 10 sigs and gets the same as the person that just made one and doesnt really care, but if its ten poor sigs and the other is one great deatialed one then its a differnt story. do you get what im saying?
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:38
Oh yeah....think if we have like 30 games and 2 packages for each to start with that 60 cominations for people to buy or maybe even have the special offer of getting both packages for a little more like $5 or something.....
So think 60 combinations
PS3land and PS3portal combined visitors is like near 250,000-300,000
$3 for 1 package $5 for both
Total money made: ?????
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:40
Well, thats what I am trying to figure out...What do you guys want to do? I think as long as everyone works together on a somewhat equal level we just split everything equally.
im not part of the squad so mabe i would thin differntly but i think you guys should work on separate ones but have them assigned. kinda like you take theese games and stuff and you can take this stuff. like the review team, we have it split to where some work on playstation others on xbox, but we arnt held to that type for instance i work on playstation but i can do a xbox review if needed. that way someone cant get a share for doing nothing, kinda like a job. i also dont think it would be fair to the person that makes 10 sigs and gets the same as the person that just made one and doesnt really care, but if its ten poor sigs and the other is one great deatialed one then its a differnt story. do you get what im saying?
Well yes, if somebody doesn't do their fair share of the work then I boot thier *** from the team. Or like I said before we could each do part of each package whether its taking turns on the wallpapers or sigs or avatars.
I have been thinking about charging for this "packages" and now i say its a bad idea. It looks like you only want to make money, when walppapers are free, the sigs and avy are made for free, etc.
Why instead of making that money and diving it into adminst and the DS, why dont you do something good with it and DONATE IT to some non profit organization. I've seen those commercials were for 18 bucks a month, a kid in a poor country can have food, water, and a good education. If we all help, maybe we can "adopt" him or her.
I know you all want to make some cash, but there are people that need it more.
JustinPinter
04-05-2006, 23:45
thank you Trinity for that comment....So anyway like I was saying money money money money money greed greed greed money money money....lol, just kidding
Well we could do that, but thats like saying lets donate all the money you earn this month at your job to starving kids in Africa. you can't because you need the money to survive...Well, I am college student who needs money for things like car insurance and girlfriend upkeep. :D
We will still offer free sigs and avatars to requests in teh forums....dont worry you wont lose anything. This is for guests who visist PS3land and PS3portal.
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 00:18
I could give you guys a hand sometime. I mean, as i am not part of the DS, i would not be rewarded. But i would help sometimes, and just when you really needed an opinion or a small touch on the Wallpapers.
Although knowing how your works end up, i doubt you even need a small participation.
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soldier one
04-06-2006, 00:22
Well, I am college student who needs money for things like car insurance and girlfriend upkeep.
i am and surely there are more of us in that same boat or something similar. :D
I know you all want to make some cash, but there are people that need it more.
sorry but i think there's not much 3 bucks could do. and they already have alot of money being donated all the time and still its the same. trying to stay on topic lol.
Well yes, if somebody doesn't do their fair share of the work then I boot thier *** from the team.
i think instead just dont give hte share of money and give them less if they did do something. i also thought of something the group needs to do mabe have some people look over them to make sure its not just a quick pic or something to get their share, like its not just a bunch of copy and paste pics together and nothing more just so they can say hey i did my job give me money, i know you guys wont do that but you never know.
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 00:27
I never trusted many of those "charity" organisation.
You know, i think they just get the money, spend it on expanding factories and other stuff, and then, they give poor people a job, a dirty room with many other people, and some bread and water...
Maybe it is just my vision of the 3rd world countries, but i am sure that many companies do that...
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Tribunal
04-06-2006, 00:27
sorry but i think there's not much 3 bucks could do.
Take 50 cents time potentially 200,000 or more possible customers.
50 cents being the share we'd all get from 3 bucks. And three bucks per person is not alot.
Thats about 100,000 dollars.
(which probably would not happen :lol: but we can dream right?)
Or even fifty people who buy it, atleast thats 25 extra bucks.
soldier one
04-06-2006, 00:30
Take 50 cents time potentially 200,000 or more possible customers.
50 cents being the share we'd all get from 3 bucks. And three bucks per person is not alot.
Thats about 100,000 dollars.
(which probably would not happen but we can dream right?)
Or even fifty people who buy it, atleast thats 25 extra bucks.
no was talking about the charities, it cant do much with helping bu a building or helicopter.
Tribunal
04-06-2006, 00:34
Take 50 cents time potentially 200,000 or more possible customers.
50 cents being the share we'd all get from 3 bucks. And three bucks per person is not alot.
Thats about 100,000 dollars.
(which probably would not happen but we can dream right?)
Or even fifty people who buy it, atleast thats 25 extra bucks.
no was talking about the charities, it cant do much with helping bu a building or helicopter.
Well unless every cent of it went to charity, then that would be 600,000 dollars. :wink: then We'd look like heros.
soldier one
04-06-2006, 00:37
Well unless every cent of it went to charity, then that would be 600,000 dollars. then We'd look like heros.
yea but it would need to be us personally bringing it to use with those poor people. otherwise do you really think all 600,000 wold go to the right couse. people do weird things for and with money. but yea you guys would be heroes and on the news it would say your username and not your name. :lol:
WOW people stop being greedy dammit it. If we all put life 50 cents (nothing for us living in the 1st world) we could really help, but i guess people dont want to.
I, somehow, dont see this working. Who is going to keep the money? (oh dont tell me....) how are the people going to get paid? are they going to be top top quality? (if they are like amateur PS users, then they wont be worth nothing).
My idea was tight, but oh well....
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 00:45
I would not mind giving like 20-30DL a month so a whole family can eat.
The only problem is that i dont know if the money is actually reaching the charity company, thats why i am not sure...
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Tribunal
04-06-2006, 00:46
Well it diffenetly wont look like this.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5143/example2ej.jpg
Of course it will have to look top quality to make it work.
That crap wouldn't be tolerated.
Suikoden Fantasy
04-06-2006, 00:56
How about each person in the DS designs a package. A couple people design the same package and you guys see which ones are the best and stuff.
Would we still get sigs and avatars made for free? Sorry I didn't feel like reading all of the conversation I'm too damn lazy.
We'd want quality packages that looked great. Just stating my opinion here :wink:
Tribunal
04-06-2006, 00:59
How about each person in the DS designs a package. A couple people design the same package and you guys see which ones are the best and stuff.
Would we still get sigs and avatars made for free? Sorry I didn't feel like reading all of the conversation I'm too damn lazy.
We'd want quality packages that looked great. Just stating my opinion here :wink:
Personally I think we need to give bang for our buck... we need alot, and ALOT of pictures.
Yes Sigs and Avatars will still be free for members of the forums, we're not greedy.
And again, we're not half-assers.
http://www.themexp.org/screenshots/large/wp/29506.jpg
For 2 dollars they better throw like 5 wallpapers, 10 avatsr, 6 sigs, and 2 wallpapers
^^^The quality MUST be better than that for people to buy. Crappy 5 min PS works will not sell.
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 01:02
Suikoden Fantasy, i dont think that idea is very good...
Basically because many DS members would participate on making packages. When the package is chosen, it could be dissapointing to other members because their pack was not chosen.
I think a package with different images from all the DS members would work perfectly...
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Better yet...why dont you throw them for free? and if somebody wants to leave a tip..well there you go. Because somehow i dont see people buying those for 3 dollars, when they can join and get them for free.
A better idea? of course Trinity is the smartest person on the planet.
For 5 dollars you get...
-access to a VIP section of the forum (needs development)
-10,000 skill points
-custom username title
-something else (im not out of ideas yet)
-a package with avatsr, wallpapers, yada yada, etc
Tribunal
04-06-2006, 01:08
http://www.themexp.org/screenshots/large/wp/29506.jpg
For 2 dollars they better throw like 5 wallpapers, 10 avatsr, 6 sigs, and 2 wallpapers
^^^The quality MUST be better than that for people to buy. Crappy 5 min PS works will not sell.
I was thinking of alot more stuff in the package but that'd work to.
Suikoden Fantasy
04-06-2006, 01:10
So far my favorite idea Trinity. Sorry Thor bad idea my part. Didn't think about that one.
Tribunal
04-06-2006, 01:13
Trinity you're making this out to be alot worse than it is.
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 01:14
I think that 2DL for all that stuff is quite a reasonable price after all...
Think about 20 buys (daily)x30 Days...600DL, split into 6 are 100DL a month for every DS member, and that is perfect. When did you think that you where going to make money with PS?
BTW NoUseMercenary, when are you calling two more members to the DS... :lol: JK.
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Tribunal
04-06-2006, 01:16
BTW, this can qualify as art, and people do sell stuff. I've seen people sell tutorials for $5 and people buy it?
Look at ebay, some people will buy anything.
Trinity you're making this out to be alot worse than it is.
Why? i got this idea from another forum *cough* pspforums*cough* and everybody seems pretty happy, and the administrator is making a lot of money out of it.
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 01:19
One sec.
In PSPForums they are selling wallpapers? Or in PSPForums they give money to charity?
Sorry but i got missed here...
And so, the TDT makes it again...We are going offtopic again...
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One sec.
In PSPForums they are selling wallpapers? Or in PSPForums they give money to charity?
Sorry but i got missed here...
And so, the TDT makes it again...We are going offtopic again...
OVER.
I dont think PSPF gives money to anybody. But since anybody wants to donate to freakkin charity and this guys are desperate to make some cash...my idea comes in handy.
TDT has done it again. :(
Thorzilla
04-06-2006, 01:28
:lol: Maybe we could make a CT (charity team) :lol:
JK messing up with you...
But if the DS members get 100 DL a month, then maybe, they could give 10DL each and it would be 60DL or so...More than enough for charity, but in my opinion, some of them are no to be trusted...
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Tribunal
04-06-2006, 01:29
One sec.
In PSPForums they are selling wallpapers? Or in PSPForums they give money to charity?
Sorry but i got missed here...
And so, the TDT makes it again...We are going offtopic again...
OVER.
I dont think PSPF gives money to anybody. But since anybody wants to donate to freakkin charity and this guys are desperate to make some cash...my idea comes in handy.
TDT has done it again. :(
No we're still on topic, because we're discussion who does it, and how well they've done it.
JustinPinter
04-06-2006, 06:19
Okay I am back from work...how about this for payment. We could do it just like Rebon pays me for my articles on PS3land. I get $5 per article. The earnings go into a pot and then I or Rebon/Morpheus would pay the rest of the Design Squad for their work. For example.... if Tribunal made 2 wallpapers for each of teh 5 featured games I assigned him or he chose, and 2 sigs for each and 2 avatars for each thats 30 designs. I would pay him lets say $15 dollars. Hopefully his designs would sell but at least its a set amount for his work. Or something like that.... Like a set amount for each design you make...except I dont know how it would work if he made all those designs and none of them sold......
Thats why I think the DS should just create an equal amount of designs and just split the earnings equally. Either I or the Webmasters from PS3land/PS3portal would divie out the money from the DS paypal account.
Interesting idea.
Why would anyone want 2 sigs, 3 avatars etc etc?? You can get this stuff for free, so why bother paying $2 or $3?
Also: it's not really PS3-related. Ok, the games you make sigs, avatars for may be PS3 games, but again, why would people want multiple versions of the same thing.
One final thing: making so many things is a lot of pressure on the designers. You can't expect everyone to produce the same amount of designs each month, so that you can pay everyone equally from the same pot. I'm sure you realise it'll be much more complex.
Skribble
04-06-2006, 13:29
Because the quality of sigs, and avatars would be much better, I think this would mainly be for the wallpapers.
NoUse I say everyone from the DS must just submit 1 work a week. 4 works a month. 2 wallpaper, 2 sig + Av set. They get paid monthly, $20... $5 for each design? That's like the site is paying for onwership of the image, it can then sell as many times as it wants, for as long as it wants. Or a by sale earnings system could be worked out.
Tribunal
04-06-2006, 13:47
I don't think we should get payed for what potentially wouldn't sell. Like your idea suggests skribble.
I think a commission method would be best and we just get a % of the total sold.
Voice Of A Riot
04-06-2006, 15:38
Sorry I've been away for awhile, I had uni assignments and such. This is an interesting proposition. Expectations will be high, so I presume its everyones best quality work which will be sold. Thats if people are willing to buy avatars and wallpapers in the first place. I'm slightly scheptical about this. But if it is the case a commission based payment would be fairer.
Vision.Pro
04-06-2006, 17:35
Are you guys really serious about charging for this stuff? just seems kind of dumb and cheap to me
JustinPinter
04-06-2006, 20:18
Well...what do you proposed Vision Pro? I am trying to find a way for the Design Squad to not only be part of the forums and create things for the community here but at the same time make money... I think it would be nice to make some money on the side for our designs.
soldier one
04-06-2006, 20:20
Well...what do you proposed Vision Pro? I am trying to find a way for the Design Squad to not only be part of the forums and create things for the community here but at the same time make money... I think it would be nice to make some money on the side for our designs.
i think its worth a shot. i mean you guys are extremely talented and the money will be the support. i think its a try and if that dont work try something else. also this could get the right people to look at your work and say hey we could use theese guys in something, and there you go you have a offical job.
JustinPinter
04-06-2006, 20:24
i think its worth a shot. i mean you guys are extremely talented and the money will be the support. i think its a try and if that dont work try something else. also this could get the right people to look at your work and say hey we could use theese guys in something, and there you go you have a offical job.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
lets at least give it a shot....who knows, it could bomb or it could really take off. Not to mention it gets our names out there even more and other business' will see our work or other online gaming sites and ask us to do work for them where money is involved.
i am pretty sure it is illegal to take copyrighted material (pictures of characters or renders etc.) and use it to make a profit.
nouse4aname68
04-06-2006, 21:20
I believe that if you significantly change the image, then there isn't a penalty, however I could be wrong.
JustinPinter
04-06-2006, 21:27
New idea that Vision Pro mentioned!!!
How about PS3forums t-shirts,hats, mousepads, sweat-shirts, ect. and maybe even PS3Land and PS3portal gear too!!!!
That takes care of many problems we are hitting with copyright stuff and it ould be easier for the DS to split the money. We come up witha few designs and split the money.
That a nice idea, but you have to charge fairly. <br />
Try to make really cool designs so people will be interest. <br />
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5 bucks per design. WOW hopefully its a masterpiece. If the will be selling them for 3...
soldier one
04-06-2006, 21:49
i am pretty sure it is illegal to take copyrighted material (pictures of characters or renders etc.) and use it to make a profit.
actuely you do need permission from the company at which you can get fairly easily, at least i think so. i know this because in the design contests i enter with sony they always state it muct be sony games so they do get in any lawsuits for putting them up on the web.
How about PS3forums t-shirts,hats, mousepads, sweat-shirts, ect. and maybe even PS3Land and PS3portal gear too!!!!
i really would enjoy helping in that, now that would be really cool. do you need to be in DS to do the shirts and stuff?
JustinPinter
04-06-2006, 21:52
I think so........at at least I dont know, something to discuss I guess.
soldier one
04-06-2006, 22:09
I think so........at at least I dont know, something to discuss I guess.
if you do its no problem ill just have to try my best to qualify. i think what should be done is work out everything, so that way when the admin say well what about this you can answer with no problem and see how you can handle it. some questions like
1 how will it be sorted out, who will do what
2 will we get anything out of it
3 what would packages be and regular be
4 any sales?
5 how will things come to work out
6 do you take requests
7 what if someone bought one do they get rights to it where no one else can buy it?
thats just some basic questions i thought of to think about. im just saying being prepaid is giving you a better chance at getting this shot than not being prepaid.
This is an interesting idea and it is certainly something I will put some thought into.
Some initial thoughts
> Setting up a Design Team PayPal shop (one for PS3Portal leads and one for PS3Land leads) would be the easiest way to do this. Each package that got sold would be tracked and the author paid at the end of the month what is owed to them by the respective webmaster.
> Artists could work to create their own packages. Leaving it to the market the most popular artists would sell the most and make the most money.
> This could not function as a request service on a large scale. It would never work because the DS could never keep up with the demand.
> This particular banking method would require trust in me or Rebon if this were to be the way it was managed. I appreciate this so to help reassure anyone who isn’t confident in myself; I’m really not interested in stealing a few dollars from guys I respect and whom are helping out the forum.
Also you can also ask any of the PS3Portal.com staff or Aspire Enterprises Ltd’s PayPal Buyer/Seller reputation. I’m sure they can attest that they do indeed get paid. Informing the games community and having fun doing it is my goal from running PS3Portal.com not making money, although that is nice too ;).
> I think this idea could work but only if it’s managed by someone with the maturity to do so. I think NoUseMercenary is probably capable of managing the DT in this.
> It would also only be worth while if we could open the shop with say 100 or so start-up packages where a package is an avatar, sig, wallpaper & screensaver. Each package would be for a particular game or theme – perhaps similar to the shop icons and would be displayed as belonging the creator.
> Pricing could be $1 per unique item e.g. avatar or $5 for a package. Bundles could be offered e.g 10 signatures for $5.
I will respond to this topic tomorrow.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 00:12
Maybe we could also have a deluxe pack where the buyer can pay 6Dl or so, and he can get like 5 wallpapers, messenger avatars, skins (msn, winamp, BS player, or others) and MAYBE A HD Trailer.
Then, he would also get a T-Shirt according to the pack bought.
Example:
Products bought:
Metal Gear Solid 4 Deluxe Pack= 5 Wallpapers, 10 msn messenger avatars, some animations, a skin, and a MGS 4 Direct Feed Trailer HD Trailer.
1 week after, the buyer gets a MGS 4 T-Shirt.
This could work pretty damn good if you think it...
OVER.
The whole idea of selling stuff which could be found on fan sites for free sounds very cheesy IMO.
Maybe we could also have a deluxe pack where the buyer can pay 6Dl or so, and he can get like 5 wallpapers, messenger avatars, skins (msn, winamp, BS player, or others) and MAYBE A HD Trailer
lol. definitely illegal.
soldier one
04-07-2006, 00:34
Maybe we could also have a deluxe pack where the buyer can pay 6Dl or so, and he can get like 5 wallpapers, messenger avatars, skins (msn, winamp, BS player, or others) and MAYBE A HD Trailer.
Then, he would also get a T-Shirt according to the pack bought.
mabe points like buy this many get one free item thing.
This could not function as a request service on a large scale. It would never work because the DS could never keep up with the demand.
i can see that mabe if you really wanted one make a date that how long it would take. like you will receive your request in 1 week for example. still wondering about the shirt question, that would be really cool to try.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 00:38
Oops.
I did not know they where ilegal.
Then we could put a simple trailer or an edited video, so we have no ilegal problems, as we did the video.
OVER.
soldier one
04-07-2006, 00:46
Then we could put a simple trailer or an edited video, so we have no ilegal problems, as we did the video.
or you can just ask people like EA or SCEA and surely they dont mind if you use them.
Then we could put a simple trailer or an edited video, so we have no ilegal problems, as we did the video.
or you can just ask people like EA or SCEA and surely they dont mind if you use them.
You do realise you are basically asking them to let you use their FREE trailers to help you guys make a profit.... there isnt a chance in hell they will allow it.
soldier one
04-07-2006, 00:54
You do realise you are basically asking them to let you use their FREE trailers to help you guys make a profit.... there isnt a chance in hell they will allow it.
no just say im doing something for some freinds and would like to use screenshots from your games. its going to be public and just want your help for starting this. if anything they will make you pay a couple bucks but thats it.
You do realise you are basically asking them to let you use their FREE trailers to help you guys make a profit.... there isnt a chance in hell they will allow it.
no just say im doing something for some freinds and would like to use screenshots from your games. its going to be public and just want your help for starting this. if anything they will make you pay a couple bucks but thats it.
Which is lying and you are basically committing fraud.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 00:59
Then why not making a custom video.
Like a teaser with the original trailer scenes.
Example of a custom trailer from MGS4:
Video Starts.
A small video from Metal Gear 1 and 2 from MSX shows up while playing the MG.
Video and music fade out...
A small video from MGS and MGS Integral shows up, playing the MGS theme.
Video and music fade out...
A small video from MGS2, MGS2S, MGS3, and MGS3 shows up, playing the MGS3 theme.
Video and music fade out...
The phrase "welcome chang3" is displayed.
Fast action video from MGS shows up, with some fast slashing like effects on.
The video and music fade out.
The logo "Playstation 3" shows up followed by the logo from "PS3Portal" or "PS3Land"
This way, we would not be having any copyright problem, i think.
OVER.
Then why not making a custom video.
Like a teaser with the original trailer scenes.
Example of a custom trailer from MGS4:
Video Starts.
A small video from Metal Gear 1 and 2 from MSX shows up while playing the MG.
Video and music fade out...
A small video from MGS and MGS Integral shows up, playing the MGS theme.
Video and music fade out...
A small video from MGS2, MGS2S, MGS3, and MGS3 shows up, playing the MGS3 theme.
Video and music fade out...
The phrase "welcome chang3" is displayed.
Fast action video from MGS shows up, with some fast slashing like effects on.
The video and music fade out.
The logo "Playstation 3" shows up followed by the logo from "PS3Portal" or "PS3Land"
This way, we would not be having any copyright problem, i think.
OVER.
The problem i believe is that you are still making a transaction with money. even if you edited the footage the footage shown would still be copyrighted.
I think that you will run into huge legal issues by making vids let alone sigs. :?
Tribunal
04-07-2006, 01:48
We shouldn't sell the sigs and avatars, I think we should stick to Vision.Pro's ideas and just make Simple PS3portal/land T-shirts, Mouse Pads, Hats and other stuff like that.
Where did Videos come into the picture?
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 01:51
Who do you think that got offtopic again tribe? :wink:
MAYBE A HD Trailer
I did it :lol:
OVER.
JustinPinter
04-07-2006, 06:09
Who thinks going with teh t-shirt idea and hats and such is the best route for the DS to take?
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 07:19
Well, i think the T-Shirts and Hats are a good idea...for the Sewing Team...
I dont know how to explain it, but i think the Packs are a better idea.
Why dont you just make some packs and some T-Shirts and the one that sells the most will stay?
OVER.
JustinPinter
04-07-2006, 07:27
How about a whole merchandise section?
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 07:40
What do you mean? With Clothes, accesories and keychains?
OVER.
nouse4aname68
04-07-2006, 07:48
For one, i guarantee that the merch would cost more than wed make, and i doubt ppl would buy that stuff anyways...
If we did decide to go with the graphics pack I think we would need a lot of stuff in there and if we worked in a group we would definently need to pool our psds so we can make them absolutely perfect. I think the t-shirt, etc is a good idea
So, what is your "official plan"? t-shirts? sigs? wallpapers?
Voice Of A Riot
04-07-2006, 17:27
There are legal issues over selling the sigs and avatars, there are cost issues over the T-shirts. I prefer the T-shirt idea, but we'd have to buy plain t-shirts in bulk and then pay someone to print the t-shirts with the PS3forum logos. If they don't take off we will be all out of pocket. We have to think through this carefully.
You could always sell the T-shirts over Cafepress, that will lower the cost of doing it yourselves.
But NoUseMercenary mentioned $1 avatars and sigs... won't that be a bit cheap? :shock: It takes me hours to draw and vector out a character. Or maybe I'm just slow.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 17:37
Well...I think that 1DL is expensive... :lol:
But it depends on how it is done and the work that has been put into it...
OVER.
Voice Of A Riot
04-07-2006, 17:50
Yes, peoples expectations of how much a sig would cost vary. Not everyone realises how much time and effort a quality sig and avatar takes to create. Some people will be willing to pay a greater price for a good avy and sig whilst others (and I think this is the majority) won't. I also have to question my own design skills (am I good enough to get involved in this), my commitment to this idea (how much free time I will have) and how much I am willing to invest if we take the T-shirt route. I'm at uni as of now and I'm skint as hell.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 17:52
I think you are much more than good enough to get involved in this.
I have seen your work through time and you imporved a lot, as well as many other DS members.
I say that you are all ready to go with the T-Shirt idea, even with the Pack one.
OVER.
Well...I think that 1DL is expensive... :lol:
But it depends on how it is done and the work that has been put into it...
OVER.
I don't know... when you draw something... just doing the outline takes a long time so I think $1 is very little, especially since he said that the $1 was for an entire package.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 18:07
I meant that 1DL for ONLY a sig and avatar might seem expensive to some people.
For example, if i had to pay for the sig i am wearing rith now, i woul dhave oayed 10DL :lol: JK
I would pay like .50DL, but if the pack is great, with wallpapers, msn avatars, msn emoticons, or so, the PACK would sell for 5DL easy.
I just noticed, CONGRATS ON YOUR 2000th post :D
OVER.
But your avatar is an edited image :p If the DS wants to sell avatars and sigs, wouldn't they be creating them from scratch? Considering that it's illegal to profit out of other people's art work without permission.
JustinPinter
04-07-2006, 18:12
Well I think maybe having a whole marketplace section would be great...we can sell sgis,avatars, wallpapers, t-shirts, and hats. The Design Squad will design the items and the webmasters can pay t-shirt comapnies to silk-screen the t-shirts and hats. Shipping will be done through something like FedX because when someone buys something with paypal or creditcard we will get their address as well. As with Sigs and avatars and such....they pay for the download and the images will be copyrighted and the images shown on the net will show a large watermark over the top of them.
Payment to the Design Squad wlll be given out like this maybe: At the end of every month everyone will recieve a base amount...very small though until this takes off. Then depending on how much work the DS member submits and is used for the marketplace, they will be paid a percenatage extra from month sales.
Tribunal
04-07-2006, 22:20
You could always sell the T-shirts over Cafepress, that will lower the cost of doing it yourselves.
But NoUseMercenary mentioned $1 avatars and sigs... won't that be a bit cheap? :shock: It takes me hours to draw and vector out a character. Or maybe I'm just slow.
Well frig, it probably takes everyone awhile to vector. Since I only have photoshop I have to fake it as best I can... that takes me awhile.
Anyways, the T-shirts wouldn't be sold for $5 bucks, those would have to be $15+
I even think thats too cheap.
soldier one
04-07-2006, 22:42
ok the whole legal thing if i can have your permission i can try and get SCEA's and no i wont lie, but i need permisson from you guys first. and also i had anther idea how about instead of killzone and stuff we make our own ps3forums logo ones, and stuff. and create shirts with our sayings. also i can give you guys a shirt outline to help design them if you want also.
But NoUseMercenary mentioned $1 avatars and sigs...
Yeah...im sure a LOT of people would want to buy an avatar for 1 dollar. Come on, give me a darn break.
Money dont grow in trees anymore.
Thorzilla
04-07-2006, 23:39
Money dont grow in trees anymore.
:shock: NO!? :shock:
Damnit, i spent half of my life seating in the grass, staring at a tree, waiting to see if it gave me 100 Bucks...
:lol: JK
That is what i meant. Some people would buy it, and some others wont.
OVER.
soldier one
04-08-2006, 00:10
well you gotta think. those who are helping or like us and know about it wont buy them well mabe the shirts depending how they look. but those who dont know us will. they see it it looks neat and bang its sold.
JustinPinter
04-08-2006, 21:08
But NoUseMercenary mentioned $1 avatars and sigs...
Yeah...im sure a LOT of people would want to buy an avatar for 1 dollar. Come on, give me a darn break.
Money dont grow in trees anymore.
You would get more than just 1 avatar for $1 I was thinking like 5 or more plus sigs and such...
Also, Soldier One....I am waiting to hear back from Morphues and Rebon... Rebon is in Portagul right now and wont be back for a while...he has been gone all week so. But Morphues I would like to hear his thoughts on this before you go get SCEA's permission for licenseing. Also, yes, the DS would come up with Logo's for PS3forums and such for t-shirts
AsianEurocide
04-09-2006, 00:46
I don't recommend selling anything with copyrighted material in it. Unofficial websites (like this one) are allowed to use company-produced images via the fair use policy, but profiting off such images would just get you into legal trouble. Just look at the lawsuits filed against Newgrounds for their sprite movies and game parodies (which are free by the way). The tee shirt idea seems ok to me; although the PS3 name itself is trademarked, Sony might allow it through 'fair use,' but don't quote me on that.
Skribble
04-09-2006, 03:01
^^^
What I was about to say, sort of.
It's a good thought, but I don't think you should take it any further, unless it's just PS3 forums logo's and sigs and T-shirts.
BloodshedDude
04-09-2006, 03:59
Royalties maybe? I'm not familiar with selling copyrighted stuff but sounds like a lawyer would be needed. I really like the idea of the t-shirts though. Don't know if it is financialy feasible.
JustinPinter
04-10-2006, 01:25
Royalties maybe? I'm not familiar with selling copyrighted stuff but sounds like a lawyer would be needed. I really like the idea of the t-shirts though. Don't know if it is financialy feasible.
Well, if the mods and admins of both the PS3forums and PS3land/PS3portal decide that this is a good idea, we can talk to Sony about royalties or allowing us to use the "PS3" name in PS3land and PS3forums and PS3portal for the T-shirts....
Think of it this way. Free marketing for Sony and the PS3forums, why wouldn't they want to do it...
Sorry. Read the post below please
Sony will always ask for some $$$$
I really like the t shirt idea, but with some cool design. And maybe a custom name on the back?
JustinPinter
04-10-2006, 02:11
yeah...these are all good ideas...I think we'll go with the t-shirt idea, so any ideas on that is what we can talk about. Lets talk designs, slogans,a dn funny qoutes that could be used. I brought this idea to Rebon's attention and he loves the idea...I have to wait and see if it will be really possible soon in the future though.
I still haven't heard from Morpheus...is he still around? Is he gone on a trip or something?
Vision.Pro
04-10-2006, 04:17
here's a quick t-shirt. i kept it simple and it's only a base idea for something to expand on.
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1719/tshirt7rk.jpg
Tribunal
04-10-2006, 04:38
I believe when it comes to T-shirts simplicity and boldness work the best.
I love the front, but I hate the back.
It looks good but I hate the big blocky ps3's on the back
JustinPinter
04-10-2006, 10:01
Wow....thats pretty good Vision... Definitly we will have t-shirts with just the website name and logo on the fronts...I was thinking too, to have quotes from the forums or forum humor on a t-shirt or something. And then of course having PS3 fanboy t-shirts and such with either forum or PS3land or PS3portal logos on them.
soldier one
04-10-2006, 22:43
here i made this one in the other topic also. tell me what you think.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/s1s2s3s4s5/ps3forumsshirt1.jpg
Tribunal
04-10-2006, 22:57
I don't think we've started making them yet. :wink:
soldier one
04-10-2006, 23:07
I don't think we've started making them yet.
no i posted that in the other topic when the idea came about. just wondering what you guys thought. i can fix it up still i just did that one to get an idea.
here i made this one in the other topic also. tell me what you think.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/s1s2s3s4s5/ps3forumsshirt1.jpg
Are you serious? the letters are all choppy. Try to come up with something unique, something that will make you go "WOW"
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 00:04
These are all just ideas...this is nothing final....its just to get examples out there
here are some quick ones I made:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/tshirt7rk.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/tshirt7rk_2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/tshirt7rk_3.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/tshirt7rk_4.jpg
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 00:07
Sweet lol, the back of the first shirt mentions the thread I made
w00t!
Vision.Pro
04-11-2006, 00:10
Sweet lol, the back of the first shirt mentions the thread I made
w00t!
and it's my quote :D
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 00:11
Yeah...I figured that we could use some of the best ones for t-shirt ideas beacuse some of them relate to all forums. Also, any other famours quotes by Admin or MOds or something well known to most users would work too.
Lp Chris XII
04-11-2006, 00:13
I think a better wuote for the back would be "You know you've visited the forums too much when you buy crappy merchandise to show it off" :) j/k, those shirts look really great! I especially like the PS3Land one.
soldier one
04-11-2006, 00:16
Yeah...I figured that we could use some of the best ones for t-shirt ideas beacuse some of them relate to all forums. Also, any other famours quotes by Admin or MOds or something well known to most users would work too.
so basicaly we need the mods to say funny things on accedent, im on it! :lol:
just wondering so i dont get all into this shirt thing and start making shirts, will i be able to help at all? really all i need is some credit that i made them, just into helping out. to me its kinda fun. im making some more just to get differnt ideas to the group out there.
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 00:19
Everything a mod says is funny, especially when they try to be mods. erm, um, w00t!
soldier one
04-11-2006, 00:23
heres another one for an idea to be funny. i forgot to fill in the close up box but you get the idea,also messed up with some other things. but can easily be fixed. its just a quick one i did.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/s1s2s3s4s5/bvbv.jpg
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 00:31
Here is my idea (I know I would atleast where this)
http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/8466/clear2ss.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2715/clear21kd.jpg
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 00:43
here is another idea...lol
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/tshirt7rk_5.jpg
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 00:46
well ok.. so we know how we're going to roll, when will this start?
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 00:46
Wow!!!! These are all really good ideas...I like both your guys's ideas Tribunal and Soldier One...and yes,
Soldier One, if you want to help that would be great. coming up with design ideas (rough drafts for now) and help getting the webmasters to get in on this.
Edit:
well ok.. so we know how we're going to roll, when will this start?
Well, all I know so far is Rebon(from PS3land/forums) loves the idea, so maybe these examples will help push the idea along.
I haven't heard from Morpheus yet. I would really like it if he said something...lol, but nothing is final right now. We need to pursuade the Webmasters that this is a big money maker (which it is) and showing examples of ideas will help.
You must know the double-post rules by now, right? ~ Lp Chris XII Yes...srry.
Anyway, more designs:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/BLZ-Hooded-Sweatshirt.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/oakleysilicon2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a177/nousemercenary/Ourworld.jpg
The quote about Chris and Emily Smythe should definitly be added on the shirts XD
Lp_Chris12: Do you, Catherine Emily Smythe, take this man to be your lawful wedded husband?
Catherine Emily Smythe: I do.
Lp_Chris12: Do not speak under the five word minimum.
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 02:05
I remember that and I was thinking the exact same thing, I just didn't know the quote word for word. *saw it in someones sig*
Someone came up with it in this thread : http://ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=247407#247407
soldier one
04-11-2006, 03:00
i thought as a reward mabe the admin, if wanted too, can make custom shirts for the member. i mean either being having user names on it or just something they would want on a shirt. and then mabe a discount on that shirt or even free. im making a couple so you will see soon what i mean.
here is an idea i had. it would be for any user mileston or post limit. i used me being here for one year just as an example, but it could be that or anything from reachingg the post number the admin set to earning points. also it would go in the shop to sell to others if the user wanted it too. but i was thinking mabe the admin could autograph some just for the meaning of the site. like i said its up to if the admin like the idea or not, it may be too far it may not, its worth a shot.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/s1s2s3s4s5/soldieroneshirt.jpg
so what do you guys think?
PeanutButterMunky
04-11-2006, 03:07
What happens when you become a two year forum member? Will you throw the shirt away?
soldier one
04-11-2006, 03:13
What happens when you become a two year forum member? Will you throw the shirt away?
you get a two year one. good question though. like i said its just a example of what it would be. to me i would save it and bring it out later, or times like when the ps3 comes out i would where it to the store to see if anyone else from here is there, then we say hey and then we really know the person. also it could be autographed by the admin and that itself would be really neat to just have.
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 04:11
i dont think personl t-shirts is a good idea....This for for mass production so Rebon and Morpheus can save money. We want plain black and white t-shirts and just come up with about 5 different designs and thats it until we get bigger.
soldier one
04-11-2006, 04:14
i dont think personl t-shirts is a good idea....This for for mass production so Rebon and Morpheus can save money. We want plain black and white t-shirts and just come up with about 5 different designs and thats it until we get bigger.
alright i see it was just a thought, mabe later like you said. how about other things like posted hats and jackets?
Tribunal
04-11-2006, 04:16
i dont think personl t-shirts is a good idea....This for for mass production so Rebon and Morpheus can save money. We want plain black and white t-shirts and just come up with about 5 different designs and thats it until we get bigger.
Or one design from each member ATM.
soldier one
04-11-2006, 04:23
another question that is going to come up sometime so it needs to be answered. who are we going to use or how are we going to produce theese shirts? i mean we need to go through some company unless they buy a thing to do so. also copyrights?
Most people use http://cafepress.com but I like http://zazzle.com better. Cheaper too I think.
soldier one
04-11-2006, 04:50
good finds cera. i checked out both breifly and afterwards i kinda liked what i saw so far with cafepress. just because it looked really organized, it looks easy to use, and is set up to work with a websites and it made it so you can have a mini store. thats just my opinion though.
but other thing reamins should we copyright our work? or would it not matter if someone else is selling our shirts. i dont know if "ps3forums" and "ps3portal" and "ps3land" are copyrighted or not but just copyright those and it would make things alot easier. mabe we dont need them who knows.
again good find cera! also the other site gave me a idea what about posters?
also if im not annoying yet i have another idea. :D
mabe we can get users in differnt places to get them in stores, i dont know really every detail, but getting our stuff in walmart would be cool.
BloodshedDude
04-11-2006, 19:44
That's an interesting idea soldier one. I think you would have to start on the net first and if they become a hit then move to local stores. Maybe mom and pops would be interested but they probably couldn't pay top dollar and shipping might be an issue.
soldier one
04-11-2006, 23:01
That's an interesting idea soldier one. I think you would have to start on the net first and if they become a hit then move to local stores. Maybe mom and pops would be interested but they probably couldn't pay top dollar and shipping might be an issue.
no every company starts off small until its a hit. what we would do is get the stores permission and then ask how many we could start out with or estimate then we order that many from wherever we use and bring them to the store. we also could set up outside of stores, or like on ps3 launch we could try and sell them to the lines in the stores. also i know there are some people here that work at gamestop that we could possibly work with.
just one thing about it is it must be trustworthy members not some newb just because he lives in a certain place others dont.
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 23:05
Anyone going to E3? We could hand them out for free or something there???
don't we have to get permission to hand out tees and other products there?
soldier one
04-11-2006, 23:07
Anyone going to E3? We could hand them out for free or something there???
thats a awsome idea, we can get noticed. i do know that possibly some writers from ps3 portal and ps3land may be going to cover the ps3. try to get a hold of the admin and ask them.
also brings another point we may want to start this before or during e3 because thats when we get the crowds and thats when if we are going to sell anything we will.
Anyone going to E3? We could hand them out for free or something there???
thats a awsome idea, we can get noticed. i do know that possibly some writers from ps3 portal and ps3land may be going to cover the ps3. try to get a hold of the admin and ask them.
also brings another point we may want to start this before or during e3 because thats when we get the crowds and thats when if we are going to sell anything we will.read my post above, I think alot of legal issues will arise from that.
JustinPinter
04-11-2006, 23:11
I dont know...just an idea,
I was thinking of going to E3 because I can get free airfare and room, only thing is I dont have money for E3 pass. I talked to Rebon since I work at PS3land if we get passes but he never got the forms for the passes....so now its like $600.
soldier one
04-21-2006, 15:57
read my post above, I think alot of legal issues will arise from that.
sorry we must of been posting at the same time. i will look it up, also anyone else can too. but i think if we get in we can do something either get permisson or ook up with a company and hand them out.
I dont know...just an idea,
I was thinking of going to E3 because I can get free airfare and room, only thing is I dont have money for E3 pass. I talked to Rebon since I work at PS3land if we get passes but he never got the forms for the passes....so now its like $600.
thats cool im with ps3portal. i do know one person is going as its all set up and everything, not me, and i dont want to enclose anything else as one i dont want to get in trouble and two i dont want him spammed asking if he can do it.
edit: ok i fixed it up and should this be my final entry?
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This idea most likely won't work, we have a request avatars and sigs thread for free, so why would someone pay?Also, I think you should have custom requests, those packs won't work.Also, the only way someone will pay is if they're clantemplates quality.
Tribunal
05-12-2006, 02:22
This idea most likely won't work, we have a request avatars and sigs thread for free,
Which is obligated to change at our discretion.
soldier one
05-12-2006, 23:12
This idea most likely won't work, we have a request avatars and sigs thread for free, so why would someone pay?
this was taken care of earlier in this post. so when is this idea going through, any word yet? i have some more designs should i post them?
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06-23-2009, 22:34
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Max Payne 3 takes place 12 years after the events of the previous title. Rockstar Games’ third-person shooter brings Max to São Paulo, Brazil, where he’s now employed in the private sector, working for a rich local family. The screens show our rough-and-tough protagonist gunning down thugs in the slums of Brazil. We mostly have back shots of Max, but he still appears fit enough to walk around the South American city with guns blazing.
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