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"...SEDs will also deliver a 1 millisecond response time"
"...the final SEDs will ship with a contrast ratio of 100,000:1 to one."
My mouth hit the floor with those two statements. WoW! Any idea the price on these things?
Ballz2TheWallz
06-25-2006, 04:24
"...SEDs will also deliver a 1 millisecond response time"
"...the final SEDs will ship with a contrast ratio of 100,000:1 to one."
My mouth hit the floor with those two statements. WoW! Any idea the price on these things?
You do know you're old tube delivers nearly the same numbers, right? :lol:
I have a question regarding my HDTV. It automatically scales all digital signals to 1080i. Theres no way to use 480p or 720p, all upscalred to 1080i. Im sure this will cause some blurriness or something.
Also, are there solutions, like setting the ps3 to output 1080i, thus the TV not having to do it. I really don't know much about this stuff so any help is appreciated. :D
http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235/img_3301350.html
holy cow... SED WILL BE THE GREATEST FOR THE PS3 EVER!!!
as for medz i cant answer your question i dont have an HD and im no techy :?
can some one answer his question he's been waiting for ever it seems
http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/679/679235/img_3301350.html
holy cow... SED WILL BE THE GREATEST FOR THE PS3 EVER!!!
I think SED will be even better for PS4! 1st batch of SED TVs should arrive just before 2008 olympics, but don't except them to be anything below 10000€ if it is as good as it is said to be. PS4 should arrive sometime in 2011 and I except SED mass production to really take off sometime by then and it to become affordable for consumers.
You know it is funny how people rave about SED, because it is basicly the same as tube-TV but it is flat and has no geometry problems! Just go for CRT people! It rocks! 8)
your saying the CRT is better then an SED dream on brother... or sister :lol:
ps3phr34k
06-28-2006, 03:13
I just bought a Samsung HL-S5087W which is a 50" 1080P 2006 TV that has 30 bit color (Deep Color). This unit does not have the game lag experienced in the 2005 models. I was set on waiting for a HDMI 1.3 compliant device but I don't think we'll be getting any of those for the PS3 release. Who knows, although highly unlikely, maybe Samsung will let me update the HDMI to 1.3 since the TV already supports 'Deep Color' (AKA > 24 bit color).
Dallas4lr
06-28-2006, 05:07
Guys,
Granted I'm venting but >>>>> but the following statement
HDMI 1.3 is fully compatible with previous versions of HDMI. So whatever you have, the PS3 will support it.
definitely isnt true!!!!!!!!!!!!
The standard HDMI slot is half the size of a floppy disk drive. The new HDMI 1.3 slots are no bigger than a fire wire connector!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so how do you stick a 3 inch wide connector into a half an inch slot!!!!
No I can understand if you havent purchased an HDTV for your P3 of course its a non issue, but for someone like my self who did this is a big issue.
You go and blow 3 grand, and see how it feels.
Dallas
Dallas4lr
06-28-2006, 05:18
As far as DLP quality goes,
I'm setting in front of a Toshiba 56" and their was only one DLP set that I've seen with a better picture then the Toshiba. That was the Mitsubishi WD62627 which I sold like a dummy because I was moving cross country. Didnt realize they were discontinued.
If you havent seen one, there just isnt another DLP that can touch the picture on that Mitsubishi model. Now the Toshiba isnt quite that good, but its not far behind.
Dallas
Ballz2TheWallz
06-28-2006, 07:53
your saying the CRT is better then an SED dream on brother... or sister :lol:
SED is in essence CRT......no on said CRT was better, but proper modifications and calibration its still king(Blackening interiors, removing glare screens, lens hoods, electronic focusing, manual focusing, optics cleaning, painting of lens casings and lens themselves to reduce lens flare, proper D65 grey scale calibration......it just goes on and on and on, In a perfect world you would even be raising the CRT guns themselves to get them closer to the screen thus reducing overscan and increasing overall brightness)
your saying the CRT is better then an SED dream on brother... or sister :lol:
SED is in essence CRT......no on said CRT was better, but proper modifications and calibration its still king(Blackening interiors, removing glare screens, lens hoods, electronic focusing, manual focusing, optics cleaning, painting of lens casings and lens themselves to reduce lens flare, proper D65 grey scale calibration......it just goes on and on and on, In a perfect world you would even be raising the CRT guns themselves to get them closer to the screen thus reducing overscan and increasing overall brightness)
Wow so lets all find good CRT tvs if there suposivly better than SED in some area's
New Question What is a Good CRT tv for are ps3 (i mite want on of these)
links would be great! :D
your saying the CRT is better then an SED dream on brother... or sister :lol:
SED is in essence CRT......no on said CRT was better, but proper modifications and calibration its still king(Blackening interiors, removing glare screens, lens hoods, electronic focusing, manual focusing, optics cleaning, painting of lens casings and lens themselves to reduce lens flare, proper D65 grey scale calibration......it just goes on and on and on, In a perfect world you would even be raising the CRT guns themselves to get them closer to the screen thus reducing overscan and increasing overall brightness)
Wow so lets all find good CRT tvs if there suposivly better than SED in some area's
You twisted Ballz2TheWallz words! He (and I) was saying CRT is basicly better than any LCD/plasma in every area except resolution. Of course there is CRTs with 1080i resolution but I haven't seen one.
SED on the other hand is basicly same tech as CRT, but it is developed even further. Normal CRT has one electric gun (or whatever) which is used to "paint" screen on phosphoric plate. SED on the other hand is a CRT squeezed to pixel size. Every pixel has its own "CRT tube". Therefore SED is in essence CRT but with great resolution and flatness.
Mallanaga
06-28-2006, 14:27
Guys,
Granted I'm venting but >>>>> but the following statement
HDMI 1.3 is fully compatible with previous versions of HDMI. So whatever you have, the PS3 will support it.
definitely isnt true!!!!!!!!!!!!
The standard HDMI slot is half the size of a floppy disk drive. The new HDMI 1.3 slots are no bigger than a fire wire connector!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so how do you stick a 3 inch wide connector into a half an inch slot!!!!
No I can understand if you havent purchased an HDTV for your P3 of course its a non issue, but for someone like my self who did this is a big issue.
You go and blow 3 grand, and see how it feels.
Dallas
chill, my man. this is all right from http://www.hdmi.org/press/pr/pr_20060622.asp
"HDMI is an established cornerstone for the whole High Definition TV industry and Philips is extremely pleased to see such significant improvements for picture and sound quality with this new version,” said Johan van de Ven, CTO and Senior Vice President of Philips Consumer Electronics. “We look forward to continuing to work with other HDMI Founder companies to extend the scope of HDMI across new devices and applications, while remaining entirely committed to ensuring full backward compatibility with existing products."
Q: Is HDMI 1.3 backward compatible with prior releases of the HDMI spec and with DVI?
Yes, HDMI is fully backward compatible with all prior releases of the HDMI spec, as well as DVI compliant devices.
in other words, it's all good. relax. hdmi is interchangable from 1.0 to 1.x. good day.
your saying the CRT is better then an SED dream on brother... or sister :lol:
SED is in essence CRT......no on said CRT was better, but proper modifications and calibration its still king(Blackening interiors, removing glare screens, lens hoods, electronic focusing, manual focusing, optics cleaning, painting of lens casings and lens themselves to reduce lens flare, proper D65 grey scale calibration......it just goes on and on and on, In a perfect world you would even be raising the CRT guns themselves to get them closer to the screen thus reducing overscan and increasing overall brightness)
Wow so lets all find good CRT tvs if there suposivly better than SED in some area's
You twisted Ballz2TheWallz words! He (and I) was saying CRT is basicly better than any LCD/plasma in every area except resolution. Of course there is CRTs with 1080i resolution but I haven't seen one.
SED on the other hand is basicly same tech as CRT, but it is developed even further. Normal CRT has one electric gun (or whatever) which is used to "paint" screen on phosphoric plate. SED on the other hand is a CRT squeezed to pixel size. Every pixel has its own "CRT tube". Therefore SED is in essence CRT but with great resolution and flatness.
Thanks for the clearificasion soo this means it works like a CRT right... yup i think i got it thankx :)
whats a CRT thingy mabob whats it do is it in tvs or somthing?
its a Tv read more of the thread and i thinck you'll understand soon anof :|
Sinister
06-28-2006, 21:03
Firstly, pardon the ignorance, recently I’ve been hearing all sorts of rumours regarding the HDMI and the PS3 and I’d be extremely appreciative if anybody could shed some much needed light on the issue.
HDMI 1.3 as most individuals know by now will be used by the Playstation 3, my question is, does one need to posses a specific HDMI 1.3 TV to be able to utilize the Playstation 3’s HDMI 1.3 capabilities or am I off the ball on this issue?
Secondly will this Sony KDL-S40A12U HDTV be any good for the Playstation 3? Could it support the Playstation 3’s HDMI 1.3 ability?
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/product/Sony-KDL-S40A12U-40-in-LCD-Television/27098756.html
Mallanaga
06-29-2006, 02:17
Sinister, yes, and yes. older TVs with the original HDMI programming can use PS3's HDMI 1.3, but you will not get the sound clarity that you get if you were using a newer spec TV.
you will still get breath taking graphics, and you will be able to hear everything just fine.
all is well.
"...SEDs will also deliver a 1 millisecond response time"
"...the final SEDs will ship with a contrast ratio of 100,000:1 to one."
My mouth hit the floor with those two statements. WoW! Any idea the price on these things?
You do know you're old tube delivers nearly the same numbers, right? :lol:
Are you serious? What it is the resolution holding back the pic?
Doesnt matter anyhow but im getting either a 32" or 37" lcdtv.. Wanna hook up my pc to it, and if i get enough cash get the westinghouse and run 1920 x 1080... Whoo Hoo.. Then again who knows what will come out between now and then but it will be that size and a lcdtv unless something changes between now and the ps3 launch.. no way im sitting around for SED's... If they are that great ill pick one up for my living room :)
Truthfully dont like the blackness of crts its to dark i like to see in the dark when im gaming.. Brightness 100!
Ballz2TheWallz
06-29-2006, 03:27
Direct View CRT's response times are 1ms> and with proper settings contrast ratios of something like 20,000-50,000:1, nothing holds them back direct view CRT's are THE kings of picture quality( Get it professionally calibrated....they can not be touched)
Direct View CRT's response times are 1ms> and with proper settings contrast ratios of something like 20,000-50,000:1, nothing holds them back direct view CRT's are THE kings of picture quality( Get it professionally calibrated....they can not be touched) CRT's has always been the KING at displaying quality (contrast ratio/colour palette) and speed (refresh rates). The down side is their size :(.
Most poeple these days do not like the old fasioned "boob-tube" TV's.
I'm not planning on reading all 9 pages of this thread, but a good mix of performance and price is the Sony A10 series, which has just recently been replaced by the E2000 series. They are an LCD RPTV, with the E2000 coming in 46", 50" and 55" sizes. The 46 and 55 inchers aren't out until next month. I just ordered the 50" through etronics for $1680 after tax and shipping.
sabinnchung
06-29-2006, 20:32
which tv is best (durability, ect)
http://reviews.cnet.com/AQUOS_LC_26G...-30917072.html sharp
http://www.hypeaudio.net/item.aspx?pid=80541 sony
if you've seen both, and hearb about them both, it will be helpful
Ballz2TheWallz
06-29-2006, 21:01
which tv is best (durability, ect)
http://reviews.cnet.com/AQUOS_LC_26G...-30917072.html sharp
http://www.hypeaudio.net/item.aspx?pid=80541 sony
if you've seen both, and hearb about them both, it will be helpful
First link is broken, assuming you linked to the aquos its a hard decision, sharp outsources there LCD's that are smaller then 37inches to orion and from what i hear sony outsources to....but i'd probably go with the bravia(never actually seen a bravia though)
Best answer you would get would be from here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40
Sony's Bravia LCD TV's are practically identical to Samsung's. They're mostly made in the same factory:
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050419sonylcd/
You'll notice that many Bravia LCD's features compare very closely to Samsung LCD's priced 100's less. The Bravia will probably look better in the store since higher-priced TV's are often better calibrated since the stores make higher margins on them.
Ballz2TheWallz
06-29-2006, 21:07
Sony's Bravia LCD TV's are practically identical to Samsung's. They're mostly made in the same factory:
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050419sonylcd/
You'll notice that many Bravia LCD's features compare very closely to Samsung LCD's priced 100's less. The Bravia will probably look better in the store since higher-priced TV's are often better calibrated since the stores make higher margins on them.
Well even crappy aquos tv's are better then samsungs, buy the sharp
sabinnchung
06-29-2006, 21:23
Sony's Bravia LCD TV's are practically identical to Samsung's. They're mostly made in the same factory:
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/3952/050419sonylcd/
You'll notice that many Bravia LCD's features compare very closely to Samsung LCD's priced 100's less. The Bravia will probably look better in the store since higher-priced TV's are often better calibrated since the stores make higher margins on them.
Well even crappy aquos tv's are better then samsungs, buy the sharp
i thought sharp aquos was some of the best lcd's out there
???
IMO Sharp Aquos, Samsung, and Sony Bravia are the best LCD's. It's up for debate which one of those three is best.
Dead_EyeRO720
06-29-2006, 21:25
I love my 26" AQUOS. I highly recommend it.
Yes Ballz2TheWallz, the smaller ones are made in Taiwan but that doesn't stop them from being awesome TVs. They are still designed by Toshiyuki Kita (the man behind the other full-sized AQUOS models), they still have the same high contrast ratios, the same extremely low response time, the same WXGA resolution, and My DVDs have never looked better.
If you shop around you can get them (relatively) cheap too.
Aleman hit the nail on the head.
I love my 26" AQUOS. I highly recommend it. The smaller ones are made in Taiwan but that doesn't stop them from being awesome TVs. My DVDs have never looked better.
If you shop around you can get them (relatively) cheap too.
Aleman hit the nail on the head.
Thats an expensive lcdtv for the size but i here that technology is just great. Would you give it up for a larger say 32" or 37" minus a lil quality? Its a nice monitor have been looking at that one on newegg looks sweet only 26 incher im considering any input on it?
For those who are buying an LCDTV which do you plan on getting 1280 x 720 or 1920 x 1080?
Im having a really hard time deciding.. Is it worth the extra dough to go for just the extra resolution (epecially when games havent been narrowed down to a resolution yet, seems mixed)?
Dead_EyeRO720
06-29-2006, 21:53
HighPS3, mine is a 1366x768p (roughly equivalent to 720p). At that size, 1080p is overkill. As for sizes, I bought the 26 incher because of my short viewing distance (<5 feet) and the small size of my bedroom. It fit the bill in terms of size just right.
The price I got it for was $927.76 after rebate, which ain't bad at all.
You should only care about 1080p if you want a big TV, I usually hear that 50 inches or thereabouts is when it makes a big enough difference to warrant the price.
mr-smith
06-29-2006, 22:00
1080p makes quite a big difference on the really big screens but I've not seen 1080p on any tv smaller than 50" in person and I don't know how much difference the extra res would make on a smaller screen (37" or less) unless you were sitting quite close to it.
If you're looking for a 32-inch or smaller LCD, 1366x768 is all the resolution you'll need for gaming. It looks awesome.
Crazy Phat
06-29-2006, 22:19
IMO Sharp Aquos, Samsung, and Sony Bravia are the best LCD's. It's up for debate which one of those three is best.The Bravia XBR1s are better than the Bravia series and it produces one of the best blacks and colours I have ever seen IMO. I mean, look at these amazing deep blacks and white whites.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/c3po1.JPG
Especially in the dark as I thought LCDs were suppose to fall on their face in dark lighting.
sabinnchung
06-29-2006, 23:44
heres a link for the sharp (first link was broken)
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=181597
the sony (its a discontinued wega series) i'd get it, but if it breaks within a year, will they have the parts to fix it???
http://www.compu-america.com/ProdDisplay.asp?CatID=0&ProdID=252252&ExportID=5
Ballz2TheWallz
06-30-2006, 00:50
If people REALLY want 1080p for as cheap as possible(while keeping quality)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7749653&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03002&id=1140394400806
If people REALLY want 1080p for as cheap as possible(while keeping quality)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7749653&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03002&id=1140394400806
That's actually a damn nice tv. Just because it doesn't have Sony or Samsung stamped on it doesn't mean that it's crap. There are a lot of up and coming brands that use most of the same parts as tvs costing twice as much. If you're looking for a plasma, look at maxent. Great picture for the price. The best description I've heard is, "They have 95% of the PQ of a Pio at half the price." And if you want a DLP, samsung is the way to go, but I don't like them for gaming. I see the rainbow and you get lag on interlaced signals(or so I've heard, never really noticed it much myself).
MATRIX 2
06-30-2006, 14:13
Maxent plasmas :lol:
Sorry , but plasma is the one display technology that you don't buy the cheaper plasma.
Vizo makes a better plasma than maxent. Stick wit hhp, pioneer, panasonic and samsung for plasmas.
Ballz2TheWallz
06-30-2006, 14:16
Maxent plasmas :lol:
Sorry , but plasma is the one display technology that you don't buy the cheaper plasma.
Vizo makes a better plasma than maxent. Stick wit hhp, pioneer, panasonic and samsung for plasmas.
samsung makes horrible plasmas compared to panasonics and pioneers
Maxent plasmas :lol:
Sorry , but plasma is the one display technology that you don't buy the cheaper plasma.
Vizo makes a better plasma than maxent. Stick wit hhp, pioneer, panasonic and samsung for plasmas.
They use many of the same internals as the brands you mentioned. Pioneer still has the crown for plasmas but after that, it's pretty close.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2R5CO/ref=pd_cp_e_title/103-0855662-6158230?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
is this a good tv guys please tell it looks interesting and cheap :wink:
Ballz2TheWallz
07-01-2006, 02:50
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2R5CO/ref=pd_cp_e_title/103-0855662-6158230?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
is this a good tv guys please tell it looks interesting and cheap :wink:
Samsung slimfits had geometry and blooming problems in the past, I cannot comment on there new models
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001YIA20/sr=1-59/qid=1151718808/ref=sr_1_59/103-0855662-6158230?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
o ok how about this larg cheapy dose it have 720p i couldent find if it dose it just says 1080i
Ballz2TheWallz
07-01-2006, 03:29
How much are you willing to spend
To be honest that TV is a POS, and not even because its CRTRP
If you're going to buy refurbished it might as well be a hitachi CRTRP, and or one of there early model LCD projection tvs
http://www.uecweb.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=1&pg=1
Whats up with that weird 1366 x 768 resolution is there a reason for this? Does this affect anything? Whether positive or negative? I imagine the image has to be downsampled to 720 does the added resolution help or hinder it? Such a weird number..
I also wanna connect to my pc so im wondering will the 1360 x 768 be funny looking or just use the 1280 x 768 one? or does either work...
i think it just a ratio but im no techy better for someone eles to answer it.
Whats up with that weird 1366 x 768 resolution is there a reason for this? Does this affect anything? Whether positive or negative? I imagine the image has to be downsampled to 720 does the added resolution help or hinder it? Such a weird number..
I also wanna connect to my pc so im wondering will the 1360 x 768 be funny looking or just use the 1280 x 768 one? or does either work...It's 1366 x 786 because it can supposedly double back as a computer monitor. If you look at the back of the TV (or the side), then you should see a VGA port, which is what you use to connect your computer monitor(s) ;).
Redrider
07-01-2006, 04:16
Whats up with that weird 1366 x 768 resolution is there a reason for this? Does this affect anything? Whether positive or negative? I imagine the image has to be downsampled to 720 does the added resolution help or hinder it? Such a weird number..
I also wanna connect to my pc so im wondering will the 1360 x 768 be funny looking or just use the 1280 x 768 one? or does either work...
If you have not seen this TV find it at a store and look at it.
Recenlty they have come out with some pretty nice TVs, but I would still say wait :wink:
Prices will still go down and resolution /features will get better. There are several major advancements in TVs that are currently in the works. Yes, some may say that they are still several years down the road. If you have to have one now buy a small one under $1500.00 to tide you over.
I'll be buying an Hdtv in the near future, within 1year. I think if I could today I'd be getting this one:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_PDP_4360HD/4505-6482_7-31530214.html?tag=lst.
What do y'all think?
The media receiver is a sweet option imo. Also, when I get one I don't think price will be an option, but I may actually go with a rear-projection dlp.
Redrider
07-01-2006, 04:52
I'll be buying an Hdtv in the near future, within 1year. I think if I could today I'd be getting this one:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_PDP_4360HD/4505-6482_7-31530214.html?tag=lst.
What do y'all think?
The media receiver is a sweet option imo. Also, when I get one I don't think price will be an option, but I may actually go with a rear-projection dlp.Pretty pricy for a 1080i HDTV! If you plan on waiting a year you will probably be able to find one with 1080p, two HDMI inputs and less $$$ :D
Redrider: "Pretty pricy for a 1080i HDTV! If you plan on waiting a year you will probably be able to find one with 1080p, two HDMI inputs and less $$$ Very Happy"
Hehe, I am waiting about a year. And, don't flame me, but my xbox 360 doesn't even render 1080p :P . Ah, and it does have 2 hdmi inputs..
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/Pioneer-PDP-4360HD.htm
But, ya you're right, I'm getting the tv before I get the ps3 so I'll keep looking.
Redrider
07-01-2006, 05:23
Redrider: "Pretty pricy for a 1080i HDTV! If you plan on waiting a year you will probably be able to find one with 1080p, two HDMI inputs and less $$$ Very Happy"
Hehe, I am waiting about a year. And, don't flame me, but my xbox 360 doesn't even render 1080p :P . Ah, and it does have 2 hdmi inputs..
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/Pioneer-PDP-4360HD.htmDo you plan on buying a PS3? do you plan on watching BD movies? Do you need a HDTV that can render 1080p? These are the things that you have to consider on your purchase. Don't get me wrong the HDTV you are looking at is a good TV, however it is still a very high priced unit. You can get Plasma TVs for less than this model. Read all the reviews on the link and find this TV in a store so you can see it for yourself and compare it to the others.
F.Y.I. It looks like you copied and pasted my post into you post. there are two ways to quote someone elses posts on this forum, however if you just want to quote the last post click the "quote the last message" box to the right of this screen.
is sony sxrd 60in good tv
Crazy Phat
07-01-2006, 05:42
is sony sxrd 60in good tvYep. Sony's XBR1s seem too overpriced and expensive to some people, but it provides the deepest blacks I have ever seen on a LCD(as well as eye popping colours) as well as there SXRDs however the SXRDs don't except 1080p over HDMI I think(thats what I heard). I mean these LCDs and LCD Rear Projectors are awesome.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/c3po1.JPG
Some deep arse blacks
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/503/medium/sxrd_60.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/503/hdtv_21_1.JPG
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/ca/reviews/2005/1108//x158SR50XBR-o-left_MT.jpg
Here is a review
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/ISEO-rgbtcspd/reviews/20051115/sxrd.html
I hope I helped.
Ballz2TheWallz
07-01-2006, 05:48
Those aren't deep blacks....CRT's look like black holes compared to those pictures
The shrek picture in particular lacks some shadow detail as well
Redrider
07-01-2006, 05:49
is sony sxrd 60in good tvYep. Sony's XBR1s seem too overpriced and expensive to some people, but it provides the deepest blacks I have ever seen on a LCD(as well as eye popping colours) as well as there SXRDs however the SXRDs don't except 1080p over HDMI I think(thats what I heard). I mean these LCDs and LCD Rear Projectors are awesome.
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/508/c3po1.JPG
Some deep arse blacks
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/503/medium/sxrd_60.jpg
http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/503/hdtv_21_1.JPG
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/ca/reviews/2005/1108//x158SR50XBR-o-left_MT.jpg
Here is a review
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/ISEO-rgbtcspd/reviews/20051115/sxrd.html
I hope I helped.Yes this is a good tv, however Crazy Phat is right about the price and you have jumped from plasma tv to rear projection model? I would recommed going out and looking in a few stores like Best Buy, Circut City, and Tweeter to see what you like that meets you budget for this purchase.
Please do NOT quote images! - The_One
Redrider
07-01-2006, 05:58
Crazy Phat: Is this your TV? looks pretty good for a 60" TV.
Ballz2TheWallz: Shrek pic does look dark but that could be the source and it being a picture of the tv screen (nice camera!).
Do you plan on buying a PS3? do you plan on watching BD movies? Do you need a HDTV that can render 1080p? These are the things that you have to consider on your purchase. Don't get me wrong the HDTV you are looking at is a good TV, however it is still a very high priced unit. You can get Plasma TVs for less than this model. Read all the reviews on the link and find this TV in a store so you can see it for yourself and compare it to the others.
F.Y.I. It looks like you copied and pasted my post into you post. there are two ways to quote someone elses posts on this forum, however if you just want to quote the last post click the "quote the last message" box to the right of this screen.
Chill, we are both taking my post way to seriously. Two of the questions you asked were answered in my last post, refer to it. And, for the third, I plan on buying and watching the hd format that is the cheapest and most widely used. Most likely it will be blue-ray b/c I probably wouldn't buy the hd 360 add-on unless it is very cost effective.
Also, I fudged in my original post thinking I had a dlp rear-projection posted, I edited it after I saw your response, so I stuck with the pdp to not ruin your posts integrity (hence, the comment regarding dlp at the bottom). I have little faith in plasmas' lifespan atm, until I read otherwise.
Don't worry, I won't find a tv online and order it without first seeing it in person. And, it's nice that you are so interested in my posts that you have to correct me every chance you get, but I will learn on my own. GL to ya.
Crazy Phat, that pic of c3p0 is amazing, really amazing.
Crazy Phat
07-01-2006, 06:25
Those aren't deep blacks....CRT's look like black holes compared to those pictures
The shrek picture in particular lacks some shadow detail as wellI am not talking about the SXRD but the LCD. That LCD produces some deep blacks. On the LCD, the black bars on both the top and bottom of the movie Star Wars are not part of the TV. When I first saw the picture, I thought it was the TV but it was actually two bars on both the top and bottom. Amazing(considering that it is a LCD). :D
Dead_EyeRO720
07-01-2006, 17:55
Whats up with that weird 1366 x 768 resolution is there a reason for this? Does this affect anything? Whether positive or negative? I imagine the image has to be downsampled to 720 does the added resolution help or hinder it? Such a weird number..
I also wanna connect to my pc so im wondering will the 1360 x 768 be funny looking or just use the 1280 x 768 one? or does either work...
That is a sort of intermediate resolution, higher than 720p but still not nearly as high as 1080p. They call it Wide XGA resolution or WXGA. I guess as The_One said it is a spin-off of PC monitor technology, however my AQUOS doesn't have a PC input.
The interesting thing is that on one of these displays the pixels aren't square like a TVs, they are narrower like a PC monitor. Widescreen TVs are 16:9, roughly 1.78:1, but that resolution is actually more like 1.83:1. They use narrower pixels to correct it.
As for 720p content, don't worry about it, it won't make it worse. It does look slightly better with 1080i/p though.
On a PC you can usually set it to different aspect ratios and resolutions, my Call of Duty 2 demo allows me to set it to exactly that resolution.
sabinnchung
07-02-2006, 05:33
http://www.techusa.biz/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=LC-26SH20U&Show=TechSpecs
this seems like a new model. since its a new model, should i get it over the lc26ga5u?
http://www.ps3land.com/article-459.php
HDTV buyers' guide - Part 2
look at this buyers guide this might help some of you with your purschases with the ps3 Yeah.
roadkill
07-10-2006, 13:23
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/1001140/Philips_32_32PF5321_HD_Ready_LCD_TV/Product.html
Hi, could someone who knows anything more than me about HDTV (probably everyone) tell me if this is a good TV to buy in order to prepare for the PS3?
My budget is £800, £900 max.
mr-smith
07-10-2006, 13:31
Theres a four page thread about that tv at http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155 roadkill and it probably would be a good idea to spend a little while checking out the popular threads in the lcd section since its a UK based forum so they know whats hot and whats not in the Uk market atm.
roadkill
07-10-2006, 13:36
Theres a four page thread about that tv at http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=155 roadkill and it probably would be a good idea to spend a little while checking out the popular threads in the lcd section since its a UK based forum so they know whats hot and whats not in the Uk market atm.
Thanks for that Mr. Smith! :D
can someone tell me about res? whats a good res and a bad one so i know what to look for.
oh and heres a 650- HD-TV 30" and has 5 stars!!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2R5CO/ref=pd_cp_e_title/103-0855662-6158230?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=172282
Guys im looking for a Big HD-TV (more than 36") alittle cheap with a great picture and is overall good for the playstation 3!!! And If you can find a tv like this... WOW YOUR A DAMN GOOD SEARCHER!!!!!
ard master
07-10-2006, 16:08
When I was at the sony store the store clerk told me that the price on all Lcd, Plasma, Dlp and Clp tvs is expected to drop dramaticly around 2007-2008. So I think that I'm going to wait untill then because I don't have a lot of money sitting around.
MATRIX 2
07-10-2006, 17:12
For the last time, SAMSUNG SLIMFITS SUCK.
Like I said deldwen, look at the XBR 970. 34 inches, $1070 at best buy.
hey you got a link?!?!?
Srry for not remebering the revewers said it had great picture and it real cheap
MATRIX 2
07-10-2006, 17:45
http://www0.shopping.com/xPC-Sony_FD_Trinitron_WEGA_XBR_HDTVKD_34XBR970
I believe the best buy price I mentioned, is in store only.
deadlypenguin
07-11-2006, 05:41
hey guys just thought I'd ask your opinions on this tv I was thinking about picking it up on friday. Gimme your opinions yah or neh oh and the price is canadian
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10076489&catid=23521&atab=3&logon=&langid=EN
KingAstra
07-11-2006, 12:10
Does anybody have the samsung Le32R71B
Ryder187
07-11-2006, 13:10
Hey I couldn't be bothered reading all 11 pages but does a normal tv work for the ps3?
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Hey I couldn't be bothered reading all 11 pages but does a normal tv work for the ps3?
yep a dee do da yep id de day!!! laddy it dose... :lol: ps3 will work fine with standerd Fat TVs
http://www.tvsnob.com/images/1080p_tv_sony_ps3.jpg
But i purfur HD-TVs for my ps3... even if i dont have one
Come to think of it... we havent talked about are TVs. Okay what HD-TVs do guys you have. A short review would be good :D maby even a link
my HD-TV is a Samsung its 36" and has great picture what about you guys?
SpaceMonkeyDave
07-25-2006, 19:13
this is my 32" HDMI HDTV, the picture and sound are very good
http://pics.computerbase.de/1/2/0/2/0/1_m.jpg
the specs are listed below:
http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P0106962_C0000133_P0000000.jpg
Product Information
Inch
32"
Aspect Ratio
'16:9
Resolution (Pixels) H x V
WXGA, 1366x768
Contrast Ratio (Typical)
1200:1 Typical
Brightness (Typical)
450cd/mm
Viewing Angle (Hor./Vert.)
178¢ª / 178¢ª
Response Time (Rise/Fall. Ms)
8ms
Image Format (Auto/16:9 / Zoom/4:3)
yes
Image Mode (Normal/Warm/Cool/User)
yes
Stereo (A2, NICAM)
yes
Equalizer
yes
Power Out(RMS)
10W x 2
Sound Mode (Stereo/Cinema/News/Flat/User)
yes
PC/D-sub Video Input
1
Audio PC Input (RCA Jack)
1
HDMI
1
Audio DVI-I Input (RCA Jack)
1
SCART (Full/Half) Input
1 full 1 half
S-Video Input
1
Audio S-Video Input (RCA Jack)
1
Component YPbPr Input (RCA)
2
Audio Component Input (RCA)
2
RS232C Input (D-Sub 9 Pin)
1
Antenna Input
1
Audio Output (Earphone Jack)
X
Audio Output (RCA Jack)
1
Memory Card Reader
0
DVB-T
0
ATSC
X
Multi Tuner
Double
Number of Channels
99
Programation Manual of Automatic
yes
Maximal Consumption
TBD
Power
AC 100V ~ 240V
Sleep Timer
yes
Teletext
yes
Multi Language OSD
Over 7 Languages
Remote Control
yes
Wall Mount Compatible (VESA)
yes
PIP Function (Picture in Picture)
yes
POP Function (Picture on Picture)
yes
2 YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTY, IN THE EVENT OF A FAULT, HYUNDAI OFFER A COLLECT AND RETURN POLICY.
it cost me £600
EndersShadow
07-25-2006, 20:18
Can anyone tell me if the specs for these two TVs are decent?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2092640411+4022+1105614040&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=411
If anyone has any personal experience with either TV, please share. But I'm mainly checking to see if the details of the TVs are good. One of them got good reviews already, so it's not necessary info.
Can anyone tell me if the specs for these two TVs are decent?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2092640411+4022+1105614040&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=411
If anyone has any personal experience with either TV, please share. But I'm mainly checking to see if the details of the TVs are good. One of them got good reviews already, so it's not necessary info.
I recently purchased the 26" Olevia from CompUSA with my employee discount for 500 including a 4 year repair plan and tax (get everything it at company cost so it was worth it). I couldnt be more happier with the purchase. Imho, i think the picture on the Olevias looks better than Sony and Samsung TV's all while being much cheaper. HD programming look amazing and it makes regular TV look infinately better. And the 37" TV's your looking looked even better than my 26", I just couldnt afford it and it probably wouldnt fit comfortably inside a dorm room. I'd say it would be definately worth the purchase.
If you live in the US, i would recommend going to your local CompUSA and looking at them. They will have it on display.
Link to the TV i got.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=337041&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&D=337041&Ntk=All&product_code=337041&pfp=srch1
Btw, definately get the LT37HVS. Its the newer model and it has HDMI, better contrast resolution, and some other little extra inputs.
Ballz2TheWallz
07-26-2006, 01:15
Can anyone tell me if the specs for these two TVs are decent?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2092640411+4022+1105614040&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=411
If anyone has any personal experience with either TV, please share. But I'm mainly checking to see if the details of the TVs are good. One of them got good reviews already, so it's not necessary info.
They are the 2nd and 3rd most popular sets on tigerdirect, they are reccomended as budget tvs.
Yes they are fine
it cost me £600
Wow you got a great deal.
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
THEREALNEXTGEN
07-26-2006, 03:08
Yeah I got a Hitachi 26in LCD HDTV at 1080p about 8 months ago for $1400. Wasn't a bad deal at all.
Ballz2TheWallz
07-26-2006, 03:08
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
THEREALNEXTGEN
07-26-2006, 03:19
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
May I ask what's so funny? He's buying the TV who cares, it's a nice TV.
MiThRaZoR
07-26-2006, 03:30
Cause Fireras said that they support up to 1080p. But on there it doesn't.
And I say ya'll should wait until HDMI 1.3 starts coming out.
THEREALNEXTGEN
07-26-2006, 03:38
Cause Fireras said that they support up to 1080p. But on there it doesn't.
And I say ya'll should wait until HDMI 1.3 starts coming out.
Yeah I think most everybody should wait because HDTV prices will continue to fall and we will all get a chance at the newest and greatest tech by the Super Bowl.
Ballz2TheWallz
07-26-2006, 03:42
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
May I ask what's so funny? He's buying the TV who cares, it's a nice TV.
Why spend extra money on a tv that ACCEPTS 1080p but can not DISPLAY it? ITS RETARDED
tRue tHuganomics
07-26-2006, 16:33
I have a 42" Widescreen HDTV
it kinda looks like dis
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/admarkus/HCR5245W222.jpg
ive had it fo a few years now, it'll do fine for me and my PS3
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
Did you not click the link and see where it says HDMI 1080p/1080i or am I just seeing things....
I know it says 1366 x 768...thats why I said "according to Samsung", I don't Samsung has any TVs scheduled to hit this holiday season, I think these models are the ones that will take us into CES 07.
im looking at the westinghouse 32 inch lcd for my ps3...anyone know how good or not good this tv is?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7680011&type=product&id=1134703181778
either way im waiting until november to get it...so im sure the price will go down...what does everyone think...
itszztom
07-27-2006, 07:22
im looking at the westinghouse 32 inch lcd for my ps3...anyone know how good or not good this tv is?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7680011&type=product&id=1134703181778
either way im waiting until november to get it...so im sure the price will go down...what does everyone think...
I was thinking about getting that tv also
What do you guys think of these...
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=20074761
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=9571048
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=12155499
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=9638416
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=9638416
Wow... Lots of people are planning on getting HDTV's in the near future, eh?
Too bad I don't have that kind of $$, nor do I really need/want an HDTV; they look like crap when you're viewing SD programs :|.
Wow... Lots of people are planning on getting HDTV's in the near future, eh?
Too bad I don't have that kind of $$, nor do I really need/want an HDTV; they look like crap when you're viewing SD programs :|.
Its an investment....slowly but surely everything just seems to be coming in HD....by this time next year HD TVs should be a common in most US homes....and we have ourselves to thank...yes, the gaming industry will drive alot of HDtv sales and that will force networks to run more HD programs and such....its hard to ignore 20 million people with HD tvs begging for content.
consoleboi
07-27-2006, 14:36
I have the Acer 32" LCD TV and have my Xbox 360 hooked up to it. I don't recommend this TV for games and DVD watching as I notice frequent ghosting.
However, the new Acer 37" 1080P looks good.
I would recommend the Westinghouse 37" or 42" 1080P monitors as I have read very good reviews and their prices are very competitive with LCD TVs.
im not sure if this is mentioned in here or not but i was wondering what if anyone knows what kind of tv the ps3 will be played on at stores like eb and what not. You know how the xboxs are played on like 26 inch samsungs and look amazing? I was wondering what the ps3s would be...thanks
Crazy Phat
07-30-2006, 21:14
I will be getting the Bravia V32XBR1 this week(finally).
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDLV32XBR1&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_26to42
It
-Performs greatly on SD content
-Amazing for gaming(seen Xbox 360) and has zero ghosting from what I've seen.
-Amazing colours with alot of depth and shades(the reds, greens, blues are whoah)
-Almost 3D like image on HD content
-Good sounding speakers(13 watts)
-Astethecially pleasing with a nice sliver trim
-Tiny sounding fans
-Amazing in DVD performance
-Great for the HD consoles.
-Very good build and looks like it will last me for quiet sometime.
-Will match the $600 PS3 in coloring and trim.
I was planning to the the Samsung 51D but I heard it had very thin, quiet sounding speakers(4 watts) and was not that great for SD programming. It also has dual HDMI ports, but a HDMI switcher will solve that for me. It also has the V shaped bottom which I really hate. But overall, it is a amazing TV and has the same picture quality as the Bravia XBR1 but it has some things that I will need that is in the Bravia V32XBR1 that was missing.
PS3isGOD
07-30-2006, 21:24
Hey guys. I'm looking for a t.v for about 3,500 dollars that does 1080p. Any ideas? thanks
Shalashaaska
07-31-2006, 00:14
One place I really haven't seen you guys look up is Newegg.com - They've got some of the most impressive deals I've seen on anything technical. I haven't read reviews on this one, but from the tech specs - it's a show-stealer. Let me know what you think if you would, thanks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824112174 :)
greepoman
07-31-2006, 17:39
Too many people are getting tricked by the 1080p hype. Yes it is good, if you can actually find a TV that accepts 1080p inputs AND has a native resolution of 1920x1080.
SO CHECK THE NATIVE RESOLUTION - I don't even know if there's a TV under 50" with a native resolution like that, most are something weird like 1366x768. So even though my 42" TV accepts 1080p...it will be scaled down to 1366x768 when displayed. This is fine, just as long as you understand it and realize that you're relying on your TV's downsampling to provide a good picture. This is where 720p might actually look better since it's closer to your TV's native resolution, but like I said, it all depends on how well your TV down-scales.
DON'T BUY INTO 1080p hype on smaller TVs (< 50 inch)!!!
Shalashaaska
07-31-2006, 20:57
The Sceptre I pointed out has a recommended resolution of 1920x1080, so it displays in true 1080p, true high definition. That one is a very good deal. If you want a good LCD that supports full high definition, go with that Sceptre, you'll be hard-pressed to find a better deal for a 30''- 40'' range HD LCD TV.
I bought an HDTV last year and it's great for next-gen gaming but it's not all that great for TV. 99% of the TV being broadcast is still SD. About the only things I watch in HD are late night talk shows, major sporting events, and HBO/Showtime. SD channels look like crap on an HDTV compared to how they look on an SDTV :(
PS3Owner
07-31-2006, 21:11
Wow... Lots of people are planning on getting HDTV's in the near future, eh?
Too bad I don't have that kind of $$, nor do I really need/want an HDTV; they look like crap when you're viewing SD programs :|.
I have a Samsung 42" plasma and it looks great with SD. It's stunning with HD.
THe best thing about HDTV is almost all stations broadcast HD for free now so I get crystal clear HD channels for free. Watching the world cup finals the other week in HD was amazing :) Last seasaon's American Idol was all broadcast in HD too, it feels like you're there watching in the theater :)
meteorocker
08-02-2006, 00:02
Not sure if somebody already posted this, but if you are looking for a 1080p monitor for just playing games/blu-ray movies, check this out:
http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=812
Not sure how reliable BenQ is, but it is 24" with a 1920x1200 res and HDMI(not 1.3) input.
It costs about $950 CAN at:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19235
EDIT: BTW I don't think it's coming out until september/october.
Kakihara_Anjo
08-02-2006, 07:29
Can someone tell me if this site is pretty reliable when it comes to HDTV's? Looks like they have some great deals.
http://www.uecweb.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=1&pg=1
This is the one Im specifically looking at
http://www.uecweb.com/index.php?p=product&id=186&parent=1
The authorized online dealers with the best deals are Abe's and eTronics. Make sure you check out the dealer before you purchase are there are a lot of places that make you "verify" your information over the phone(even if you order online) and then try to hard sell overpriced extras, warrenties, other shipping options, etc. Some won't even sell you the TV if you don't buy some of the extras. And if you have problems after you get the TV, you're SOL as they usually won't accept returns. Most of the stuff they sell is not under warrenty and many are grey market goods.
Ballz2TheWallz
08-02-2006, 18:02
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
Did you not click the link and see where it says HDMI 1080p/1080i or am I just seeing things....
I know it says 1366 x 768...thats why I said "according to Samsung", I don't Samsung has any TVs scheduled to hit this holiday season, I think these models are the ones that will take us into CES 07.
So, because your LCD accepts 1080i makes it able to display 1080i? NO
THAT IS NOT A 1080P DISPLAY END OF STORY
I'll be getting the Samsung 26" LCD (LNS2651D) or the 32" LCD (LNS3251D)...
The great things about these two displays is, according to Samsung, their ability to display in 1080p :shock: .....the 26" at Circuit City is $1399.99 and the 32" $1699.99
Check out the product pages over on Samsung's site
26" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
32" Model (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3251DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications)
They don't display 1080p :lol: They display 1366x768
Did you not click the link and see where it says HDMI 1080p/1080i or am I just seeing things....
I know it says 1366 x 768...thats why I said "according to Samsung", I don't Samsung has any TVs scheduled to hit this holiday season, I think these models are the ones that will take us into CES 07.
So, because your LCD accepts 1080i makes it able to display 1080i? NO
THAT IS NOT A 1080P DISPLAY END OF STORY
Calm down there skip....no ones arguing, besides someone already answered that question....the TV accepts a 1080p signal but down-converts iit to 720p....now calm down....you guys are way too angry....
Question do you have a 360?
what'r u meaning by TV's for PS3
I think you mean a TV which's sticked on PS3
another question ;
what's a suitable standard to ps3
the new Samsung 56 in DLP 1080p tv is the only way to go
what tvs do you guys have right now u can just give me a brand and size + a quilty thingy as in HD ED SD What ever... :D
Guilty Bystander
08-04-2006, 03:40
Best HDTV's IMO for PS3 would be these:
JVC InteriArt 26/32X70 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i support
Sony Bravia 32V2000 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
1x HDMI
720p/1080i support
Phillips 32PF9830/10 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
1x HDMI/1x DVI-I
720p/1080i support
Toshiba 32WLG66P LCD HDTV
1366x768p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i support
These are the four best LCD HDTV's available out there in the 26/32" range.
If you got a little more money to spend:
Sony Bravia 40/46/52X2000 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
Phillips 37/42PF9830/10 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
1x HDMI/1x DVI-I
720p/1080i support
Toshiba 42/46WLG66P LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
If you are living in the US:
Sony WEGA 50/55/60" SRXD Projection HDTV
1920x1080p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p support
Best HDTV's IMO for PS3 would be these:
JVC InteriArt 26/32X70 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i support
Sony Bravia 32V2000 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
1x HDMI
720p/1080i support
Phillips 32PF9830/10 LCD HDTV
1366x768p
1x HDMI/1x DVI-I
720p/1080i support
Toshiba 32WLG66P LCD HDTV
1366x768p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i support
These are the four best LCD HDTV's available out there in the 26/32" range.
If you got a little more money to spend:
Sony Bravia 40/46/52X2000 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
Phillips 37/42PF9830/10 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
1x HDMI/1x DVI-I
720p/1080i support
Toshiba 42/46WLG66P LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
If you are living in the US:
Sony WEGA 50/55/60" SRXD Projection HDTV
1920x1080p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p support
WTF where is the SAM LNS2651D and the LNS3251D?
Crazy Phat
08-04-2006, 04:49
Yeah. The new Samsung LCD HDTVs are awesome.
Here are my top 5 LCDs in the 32'' range.
1.Bravia V32XBR1
2.Samsung LNS3251D
3.Last year's Sharp LCD models(the new 32'' models are a step backwards)
4.Last year's Samsung models(pretty good).
5.Bravia V32S000
Those are some really good LCDs. But I prefer the Bravia XBR1 for certain reasons(though 1 HDMI port is a drawback but HDMI switchers).
Guilty Bystander
08-04-2006, 05:22
WTF where is the SAM LNS2651D and the LNS3251D?
3.Last year's Sharp LCD models(the new 32'' models are a step backwards)
4.Last year's Samsung models(pretty good).
Well actually Samsung LCD HDTV's can't compete at all with the Sony Bravia's, JVC InteriArt's, Toshiba's, Phillips Cineos and Panasonic Vierra's.
PS Party
08-04-2006, 11:01
Just brought a Panasonic Viera "106cm HD(TH-42PV60A) It has two HDMI inputs....frankley,couldn't be happier.
My pick for now is Amoi 37" - LCD, FullHD and TRUE 1080p input on HDMI, component and VGA with the next firmware version. 2500$ , check their website for more details. IMO great value.
Hi... well I own the 50" Sony KDFEA10 LCD the late 2005 model.. .720p, full HDMI, component, PC IN, etc etc etc.
Its a great TV, and besides the obvious ps2 looking not so great even through component, the PS3 will look amazing on it, a friend brought over the 360 (not my thing really, but hell..) and it looked damn great on this tv at 720p.
No game lag, no problems, just awesome. Defenitly reccomended.
Kakihara_Anjo
08-06-2006, 00:42
What do you guys prefer? Size or Quality?
I'm looking at two HDTV's at the moment.
One is a 50" Samsung with an hdmi port and 720p
the other is a 32" Phillips also with an hdmi and 1080p
Both cost about the same. the 32" has a bit better picture quality, or the other is much bigger, and I play allot of split screen games with my friends, so size would be good.
Hydra_Hobo
08-06-2006, 01:08
1080p is about as overrated as it gets. It just isn't worth the 500-1500$ more you are going to pay to get it. Bigger is better. And Samsung is a great brand, although I haVe heard some shit about their customer service. TVs are good tho.
smaller 1080p doesnt make much sense to me personally, your not going to notice too much of a difference with good HD material on those sets really.
Samsung DLPs have some problems with gaming lag, SOME.. not all.
720p is great! my 50" sony LCD is 720p and it looks just as detailed as my friends 1080i set.... for games its better than his 1080i as well, smoother, nicer. richer.
someone said it before, if your going bigger than 50" and can afford it, get 1080P, if its 50" or less 720p will do you just fine, and trust me, playing video games on a 50" tv is WAYYY cooler than a 32".
dont let the #'s fool you, just because 1080i is a bigger # doesnt mean its better picture quality. there are ups and downs..... you want progressice (720p or 1080p) for gaming for sure though.
MikeBabcock
08-07-2006, 00:45
Ah a Sony TV (its obvious since its Sony). A good LCD is a Bravia XBR1. However, it may seem overpriced to some or just overpriced, but the price dropped from $2700 to $ 1800-1600. Another good TV is what Organic Shadow mentioned or just a widescreen Hi-Def CRT(nothing can beat a CRT except for size and space saving). But any HD TV will do the PS3 justice. However, quality varies.
The Sony HDTV CRTs (direct-view) are the reference for high definition quality. Nothing beats a good CRT in high-definition picture quality, until 7 colour wheel DLP is common.
The brightness, the contrast, the colour reproduction and the refresh rates are all amazing on CRTs. The advantages of LCD or plasma are larger sizes (CRTs max out around 34" widescreen), being thin and using less power.
That said, I'm very happy with my 30" widescreen CRT HDTV and most people who've seen HD on LCD/Plasma note the amazing picture quality. When's the last time you winced at your TV as the sun came up over the water on a TV show?
I own a Toshiba, but if I'd had a few hundred dollars more I would've gone Sony. Seriously, go look at a high def Sony CRT and see how beautiful it is.
Aptmusic9
08-07-2006, 21:14
1080p is overrated. go for the 50" 720p. it doesn't make much difference. the ps3 is going to be jaw dropping on my standard def sony tv. its the graphics that matter, the tv will just make the picture a lil clearer.
1080p is only really useful when the TV is bigger than 50" or even 55", like those awesome 70" TVs.... DLP is nice stuff but I like my LCD sony better! But its not 70"! its only 50"! ahaha..
oh uh 1080p defenitly not worth it for a 32" when you can be getting amazing picture quality with 720p on a 50" set. The ps3 will look amazing on any ol regular TV pretty much, HD is going to make it prettier for sure, but either way... youll have fun.
how many inches on that? were getting a 50" inch for the gaming room and was looking for a good 50" HDTV
Sony LCD 50" 720p. Iam a very happy owner... I can get the model # and stuff no problem, I just cant think of it off the top of my head at the moment.
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 00:38
1080p is overrated. go for the 50" 720p. it doesn't make much difference. the ps3 is going to be jaw dropping on my standard def sony tv. its the graphics that matter, the tv will just make the picture a lil clearer.
I have to disagree. I've been playing my 360 on a SDTV for a little over a month. You can imagine my anticipation of a game like NCAA 07 watching all the videos over the net.
Well, when I finally got it home it was completely underwhelming. If you want your ps3 games to look great or as good as they look in all the videos on the net you are going to need an HDTV.
I just plopped down $1400 for a Westinghouse 37w3 that is 37" and 1080p. Don't have it yet but from what I've read, I'm expecting great things. It is a monitor, however, and will require a tuner to get HDTV content.
I've also seen some people cite the Sony 1080p line that came out last year. Just beware that last years line doesn't support 1080p inputs (God knows why). So you are essentially only going to get 1080p from tv content (and there is none) and not from your shiny new PS3 come November. The new line that is probably being shipped as we speak does accept 1080p inputs so by all means, jump on those if you like but they will be $2500+ to begin with.
I think people would rather have a 50" tv than a 37" even if its 1080p, You can watch a lot of stuff and not really be able to tell the difference in quality because of the screen size difference, this person that originally asked this question would probably be a lot happier with a larger TV for games.
Blackz06
08-08-2006, 02:03
I just got the new 65" Mitsubishi WD-65731. I think this DLP rocks. It is a true 1080P, too bad Directv broadcasts in 1080i. I was torn between this one and the Sony WEGA 60" SXRD, but I thought the Mitsu was a better buy. First off, the 6 color primary system the mitsu has does show colors better than the SRXD. When side by side the resolution is identical, including the brightness. But the colors of the mitsu are better. And the "Smart TV" feature on the mitsu also kicks butt. It's where selecting your input a window pops up and you select the icon in which you want to view. With these slight advantages I went with the mitsu.
I'm sure there are better ones out there, but I am 100% satisfied with my purchase, and that's what matters to me most.
You hit the nail on the head. Your satisfied! You got a good TV I can tell ya that for sure, I looked into these things big time half a year ago when I got my 50" Sony LCD. If I was going to ever get a TV bigger than 55" it would defenitly be 1080p. Any smaller and 720p for sure. DLP is nice for the colors and film like quality, before I had this Sony I had a Samsung 50" DLP, but I took it back and got the Sony LCD because I read EVERYWHERE that the particular Samsung TV I got has gaming lag issues, I couldnt live with that considering im a huge gamer (GEEK).
Im truly happy with my TV, it looks amazing with certain HD content and high end games are gonna look even better. I really cant wait to hook the PS3 up to this bad boy to see what she can do!
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 03:46
I think people would rather have a 50" tv than a 37" even if its 1080p, You can watch a lot of stuff and not really be able to tell the difference in quality because of the screen size difference, this person that originally asked this question would probably be a lot happier with a larger TV for games.
I'm not going to disagree with you at all but one also has to consider the sources of the content. We should be able to tell the difference between a game in 1080p and a game in 720p even at 37". And if I'm not mistaken you are basing your assumption off of viewing distances. I play my games fairly close, watch tv, and movies fairly far away like anyone else. So one should be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p if they sit closer than the distance people generally watch tv and movies (correct me if I'm wrong, but that is what I've read).
But yes, in most scenarios a 1080p set probably isn't worth it given a cost/benefit ratio. However, in my case, for the size of tv and type I was looking for it certainly was. I got a 1080p set for $400 dollars more and since it will be used as a computer monitor and game monitor first, and a HDTV somewhere off in the future, it was certainly the better buy for me. Just depends on the person and the scenario.
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 03:55
1080p is only really useful when the TV is bigger than 50" or even 55", like those awesome 70" TVs.... DLP is nice stuff but I like my LCD sony better! But its not 70"! its only 50"! ahaha..
oh uh 1080p defenitly not worth it for a 32" when you can be getting amazing picture quality with 720p on a 50" set. The ps3 will look amazing on any ol regular TV pretty much, HD is going to make it prettier for sure, but either way... youll have fun.
Take a look at Sony's Lcos line coming out this month. Last years models received rave reviews (consensus best TV in that price range and size). They start at 50" and carry an MSRP of $2800.
Crazy Phat
08-08-2006, 04:57
1080p has always been overhyped. Once the hype captures you, most people continue to follow the hype.
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 05:34
1080p has always been overhyped. Once the hype captures you, most people continue to follow the hype.
I don't know if you are directing that at me or not but it isn't hype when you are using the tv/monitor in ways that will actually take advantage of the resolution. I didn't choose the set I chose based on hype, I chose it because I will actually use all of the features it offers - including 1080p.
Blackz06
08-08-2006, 05:37
Some FYI on HDMI...Not sure if this has been posted, But I really don't feel like reading 13+ pages. If and when You do decide to get an HDTV that has HDMI ports what ever you do DO NOT buy the HDMI cables that go for $100+.
After I got my TV I went HDMI cable shopping for the best price. A Frye's salesman tried to convince me that the Monster Cables that sell for $150 is the best you can get on the market. I just pretty much laughed in his face. He was saying all kinds of rubbish that made absolute no sense.
I had to educate that guy telling him that it is a digital signal - as in 1's and 0's. The signal does not get distorted in any way shape or form (as analog does. It either gets there or it doesn't. If it gets there it's a good cable if it doesn't then it's crap. Took me about 30 minutes of explaining it to him.
I had him point me to the computer section and showed him a 2 meter HDMI cable that went for $19.99 was just as good as that 3 meter $150 Monster Cable.
I really think they work on commision so they try to sell the most expensive items, even though they are no better than cheaper ones.
All in all, just be carefull when purchasing TV's, cables, and whatever accessories that are out there. Just do some research first before you purchase something blindedly.
Before you know it you'll buy a TV with a cable card, (like my friend did) only later to find out that it's pretty much worthless when you have satellite. LOL
Yeah thats also true, if sitting close to the TV 1080p is better.
I sit far enough away that I wouldnt noticed too much of a difference. we can all agree that any kind of HD is awesome, especially for gaming. and I cant wait to get some blurays!
And yeah to whoever was saying it, I own a 2005 LCD Sony 50" 720p and it got great reviews across the board, it was money well spent.
WarshadowFH
08-08-2006, 05:57
yeah 720p is fine for most poeple
if your sitting around or further than 8 feet back yeah its perfect.
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 18:09
I'm pretty much blind so I dont sit much more than 5 feet back from my current 32 inch. That may change a little when I get my new TV since it is bigger but we'll see.
720p is fine (and awesome looking) for most people. I was just in a situaton where I could spend a grand on a 720p set or 1300 plus shipping on a 1080p set that had better and more connection options, could take full advantage of HD-DVD and Bluray, be used as a monitor at 1920x1080 res (and look amazing), while also future proofing. There wasn't much for me to consider after that.
MikeBabcock
08-08-2006, 18:29
I'm pretty much blind so I dont sit much more than 5 feet back from my current 32 inch. That may change a little when I get my new TV since it is bigger but we'll see.
The quality difference in 480i, 720p and 1080i or 1080p is entirely dependant on the size of the screen to viewing distance ratio. At a few hundred feet, you can't tell if a 30" screen is high-def or not; you can barely tell if its on or not.
At very close distances, anyone can tell the difference between 720p and 1080i on my 30" widescreen CRT, but at 8' (where I have the couch) most people just find the 1080i to be a little "crisper".
When you try out a TV at the store, make sure its actually showing high definition content in the resolution you want to judge and sit the distance you'd sit from the TV in your own living room. Don't judge a 60" TV from three feet away, for example but if you're planning on sitting close to a large TV (for that in-home IMAX experience), you'll probably notice 1080p over 1080i or 720p no problem.
For another comparison, think of a PC monitor. At the two feet most people sit from their PC screens, they can easily tell the difference between 640x480 or 1024x768 or 1920x1152 even on a 17 or 21" screen because the viewing distance is so short.
Best HDTV's IMO for PS3 would be these:
If you got a little more money to spend:
Sony Bravia 40/46/52X2000 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
Phillips 37/42PF9830/10 LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
1x HDMI/1x DVI-I
720p/1080i support
Toshiba 42/46WLG66P LCD HDTV
1920x1080i
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p (1080p@60Hz only) support
If you are living in the US:
Sony WEGA 50/55/60" SRXD Projection HDTV
1920x1080p
2x HDMI
720p/1080i/1080p support
A small correction - all LCD panels are progressive by nature so the 4 tvs quoted will be 1920x1080p not i.
MikeBabcock
08-08-2006, 20:07
A small correction - all LCD panels are progressive by nature so the 4 tvs quoted will be 1920x1080p not i.
Yes and no -- I haven't checked the specific TVs listed there, but most high definition TVs with a native resolution of 720p will also list 1080i support because they scale it to 720p (whether it looks good or not is another question). They don't necessarily have 1080 progressive lines of resolution.
See the Plasma TV buying guide (http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv-native.html) or CNET's EDTV vs. HDTV (http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html) discussion (since quite a few TVs list the ability to handle 720p and 1080i resolutions but are only 540p sets).
MikeBabcock
08-08-2006, 20:31
What are some good tv's for the ps3, also ones not to get.
For the really hardcore...whats the BEST TV You can Get for your playstation 3.
As far as the best HDTVs for the PS3 (or anything else) goes, check out CNET's excellent top HDTV picks with full reviews:
http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-6308388-1.html?tag=tnav
Summarized here:
Top flat-panel HDTV plasma: Pioneer PDP-4360HD
Top flat-panel LCD HDTV: Sony Bravia KDL-V40XBR1
Top budget flat-panel HDTV: Westinghouse LVM-37W1
Top direct-view HDTV: Sony KD-34XBR960*
Top rear-projection HDTV: Sony KDS-R60XBR1
Top rear-projection DLP HDTV: HP MD6580n
Top home theater projector: InFocus 7210
* "This is the reference standard for picture quality among direct-view HDTVs and also happens to be a great value."
kierkegaard
08-08-2006, 21:10
Yeah I wish they would update that though. ^
MATRIX 2
08-09-2006, 01:14
They do update,tv reviews on a regular basis.
Also, you have to read the review, to judge the tv, the ratings are inconsistent.
For example, the old sxrd gets an 8.8, but the xbr 960 gets an 8.1, when it is better in almost every than the sxrd.
Also if you look at lcd's for example, cnet currently lists the sony xbr bravia as the best, even thoughit performs poorly on sd content, they also rate the samsung lcd too low, dont and don't mention how sharp lcd's are a good value.
SO when you look at the list of tv's on cnet, read the full review, then go to the store to decide. Don't take their word for it, use your judgement.
Yes, I cannot stress that enough really.
You have to take your sweeeeeet time when your buying a TV that costs this much. You really do, otherwise you may find yourself in a big mistake.... or watching one. :wink:
It's gonna suck, but I'm probably gonna start off with a 19" widescreen monitor that supports dvi. Can get one for around 200 bucks right now, and gives a pretty good picture. Then, hopefully, after a couple years buy the big'un.
But truthfully, I'll probably get sick of being on a 19" real quick and change my mind within a year.
what type of TV's do u guys own right now.
i have a JVC standerd 36" great quality for a fat ass standerd :lol:
MikeAaronB
08-11-2006, 21:33
what type of TV's do u guys own right now.
i have a JVC standerd 36" great quality for a fat *expletive deleted* standerd :lol:
Meh, I have a tube television. A 480p, 27 inch, blocky, dusty son of a gun! w00t!
Ballz2TheWallz
08-11-2006, 21:51
what type of TV's do u guys own right now.
i have a JVC standerd 36" great quality for a fat *expletive deleted* standerd :lol:
Meh, I have a tube television. A 480p, 27 inch, blocky, dusty son of a gun! w00t!
enjoy the SD picture quality while it lasts....once you buy an HD set it all goes to hell
what do u mean Ballz?????? TELL ME WHAT U
MEAN!!!!!! :no
SD (regular cable or sat) dont look so hot on a HDTV, you can tweak your settings a bit, but it will never look as good as your old NON HDTV. I dont give a shit though, its well worth it.
I own a Sony 50" LCD 720p. I love it.
solinent
08-12-2006, 03:29
My SD does look a bit worse, but you have to consider lcd advantages. Like being way more vibrant and colourful (at least more than my pioneer 48" compared to my sharp aquos 26")
chabraham
08-12-2006, 03:44
just setup my new 42" Sony LCD projection tv. I bought it today, and it looks amazing with my XBOX 360. The differene between HD and SD is huge, especially for video games.
PS3isGOD
08-12-2006, 03:47
Hey guys. I saw this t.v and i really like it and its in my price range. It also does 1080p. but someone told me to watch out for refresh rates, anyone know if this will be a good t.v for the ps3? thanks
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=8o8UxqQPpgcVkODZgoYezesBYHLbrLzTeV4=?Cat egoryName=&ProductSKU=KDS60A2000&TabName=specs&var2=
FcBcKiDD51
08-12-2006, 04:14
Hey i am in the market for a new television and i am positive that i am getting a 1080p tv. I have found 2 tvs, one i know is 1080p the other im not sure.
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDSR60XBR1&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
- TV that i am not sure is 1080p
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDS60A2000&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
-TV i am sure is 1080p.
Which TV is the better buy? and Why?
*P.S. i know that the first TV has been discontinued but i know a place where i can get it.*
river_401
08-12-2006, 06:03
Hey i am in the market for a new television and i am positive that i am getting a 1080p tv. I have found 2 tvs, one i know is 1080p the other im not sure.
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDSR60XBR1&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
- TV that i am not sure is 1080p
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDS60A2000&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
-TV i am sure is 1080p.
Which TV is the better buy? and Why?
*P.S. i know that the first TV has been discontinued but i know a place where i can get it.*
I got the first tv you mention and it is amazing, here some pics i took during World Cup with my cell phone, sorry but my digital cam is messed up :(
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6631/1zi0.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2041/2ez7.jpg
MATRIX 2
08-14-2006, 00:48
PS3is***, that is a good tv, but the new sxrd's have some issues, and don't handle sd very well, I would reccomend this tv, which is cheaper, and performs very well, and it is also significantly cheaper:
http://www99.shopping.com/xPC-Samsung_HL_S6187W
FcBcKiDD51, the older sxrd is better, even though it can't accept 1080p over hdmi. So if you want a sxrd, go with the older one.
I suggest you take a look at the previous samsung tv I posted, very good value and is also available in 50 and 56 inch screen sizes.
PS3, your name is censored, so don't blame me.
Sorry, but I was just reading this post and I have to ask a simple (probably stupid) question.
I see people list tv's as "lcd projection", but get confused. I see DLP or CRT and know it's projection. LCD and Plasma use different sources for their pictures. So is there actually a thing as an "lcd projection" tv? Or is this a description that doesn't really fit the product correctly.
I know this may not be the right place to post this, but as many people search for tv descriptions here it may benefit somebody besides myself.
MATRIX 2
08-14-2006, 19:08
Types of tv's currently available CRT, CRT projection, DLP projection, LCD projection,LCD flat-panel, plasma, LCOS projection.
It does exist.
Yeah it exists... I got a 50" one sitting right beside me as I type this. Heh.
wonders1982
08-15-2006, 00:24
my old 21" crt tv blew up on me today and now am in need of a new one. i've been looking around the net for a cheap hdtv (£500-£700 range) and came across this one. http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4216&CategorySelectedId=11229&NavigationKey=11229,46720000,46810000,22&InMerch=1
It says it has hdmi connectivity and has a resolution of 1366 x 768 so it should do 720p ok. I also came across this one which looks the same but doesn't have the hdmi port. http://www.totaldigital.biz/product_info.php/products_id/1413
Is the first one a upgraded model from the second one? or two totally different tv's?
If anyone can shed some light on this for me of even give me a link for a better tv for my money to be baught in the uk would be a great help thanks.
MATRIX 2
08-15-2006, 01:07
The sony crt's upscale 720p t0 1080i, no consumer crt's can display 720p.
As for good tv's at different prices:
CRT tv's: SONY XBR 970 (34 inches)($1000-1200)
LCD tv's:
SAMSUNG LNS-xx51D series (23, 26, 32,40 inches)($700-2500)
Samsung LNS-xx96/95D series(1080p) (40, 46 inches)
Sony XBR3/XBR2 series (1080p) 40, 46 inches
Sharp LC-xxD40U series (26, 32, 37,45 inches) ($800-3300)
LCD RP
Sony e2000 series (46, 50, 55 inches) ($1450-2400)
DLP:
SAMSUNG HLS-xx87W series(1080p) (50, 56, 61 inches) ($2200-3500)
LCOS:(1080p) sony SXRD A2000 series (50, 55, 60 inches) ($2600-3700)
Plasma:
Panasonic X60 series (37, 42, 50, 58 inches) ($1600-5500)
Pioneer: 70HD series (42, 50 inches) ($3499-4500)
HP 60N series (42, 50 inches) ($1750-2900)
cheap 1080p tv's:
westinghouse lcd monitors, 37, 42, 47 inches ($1400-2900)
Crazy Phat
08-15-2006, 03:42
SD (regular cable or sat) dont look so hot on a HDTV, you can tweak your settings a bit, but it will never look as good as your old NON HDTV. I dont give a **** though, its well worth it.
I own a Sony 50" LCD 720p. I love it.
Not all TVs. The Sony Bravia XBR1 series have a very sharp and good looking SD output.
http://static.flickr.com/25/42189301_9689972462.jpg?v=0
http://static.flickr.com/30/42189291_cafee63f58.jpg?v=0
Yeah, not all TVs for sure. thats right.
My tv does SD pretty good, HD ofcourse looks amazing, cant wait to see what the PS3 looks like through HDMI on my tv, but yeah... SD looks pretty decent on my tv... ive seen better SD on some HDTV and ive seen much much worse. Luckily I dont watch too much tv, lots of movies and video games though. Its a sacrifice im willing to make anyway, HD is the future for television.
MATRIX 2
08-15-2006, 14:35
From what I've heard/seen the sony lcd's don't really handle sd content very well.
I recently bought this one:
http://www.johnlewis.com/Audio+and+TV/Televisions/++Shop+by+Screen+Type+/LCD+TV/230306783/Product.aspx
Hydra_Hobo
08-15-2006, 15:59
Ok, What you guys think about :
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS5686WXXAA.asp
I just can't justify the 500-1000 more for a smaller 1080p. I can get this baby off amazon for 1700. Any thoughts?
Ok, What you guys think about :
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS5686WXXAA.asp
I just can't justify the 500-1000 more for a smaller 1080p. I can get this baby off amazon for 1700. Any thoughts?
That TV kicks ass. I just bought the 46" version off of Amazon for $1300 total(haven't got it yet though).
I saw that one at Best Buy and the picture quality is amazing.
This is probably a better description of it:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_26to42&ProductSKU=KDL32S2000&TabName=feature&var2=
What do you guys think?:)
MATRIX 2
08-16-2006, 01:04
Martix, your tv is good for gaming, movies, and hdtv, but it dosen't do well with sdtv.
Hydra_Hobo, that tv is good, but have you also considered this:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDF55E2000&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
http://www.abesofmaine.com/viewproduct.asp?id=snkdf55e2000&l=Pricegrabber (good store)
wonders1982
08-16-2006, 20:10
I've just placed my order for this tv here: http://www.24electric.com/detail.php?ProdID=98219533
What do you guys think about it? Is it any good?
I've just placed my order for this tv here: http://www.24electric.com/detail.php?ProdID=98219533
What do you guys think about it? Is it any good?
You'll be very happy with that TV. I had last year's 23 inch LCD from Samsung and just today purchased a US version (LN-S3292D) that is similar to that TV.
I was comparing 2 samsung LCD's
the
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2641DXXAA.asp
and the
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3238DXXAA.asp
i'm from Holland this are the dutch links
1st model
http://www.samsung.com/nl/products/tv/lcdtv/le27s71b.asp
2nd model
http://www.samsung.com/nl/products/tv/lcdtv/le26r72b.asp
can anyone tell me if those are the same tv's as on the USA site (besides the size difference)
and i also like to know wich one is the best i could only find 1 difference and that's the model :shock: and are this LCD's good enough for the PS3?
Thanks alot for the help :mrgreen: ,
Lars
I was comparing 2 samsung LCD's
the
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2641DXXAA.asp
and the
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS3238DXXAA.asp
i'm from Holland this are the dutch links
1st model
http://www.samsung.com/nl/products/tv/lcdtv/le27s71b.asp
2nd model
http://www.samsung.com/nl/products/tv/lcdtv/le26r72b.asp
can anyone tell me if those are the same tv's as on the USA site (besides the size difference)
and i also like to know wich one is the best i could only find 1 difference and that's the model :shock: and are this LCD's good enough for the PS3?
Thanks alot for the help :mrgreen: ,
Lars
Here's a quick run-down on Samsung TV's...
The models with an "S" in them are 2006 models. The ones with an "R" in them are from 2005. So you're going to want an "S" model, and then the higher model number the better. For example the LN-S3292 is better than the LN-S3251 > LN-S3241 > LN-S3238. Those are US model numbers but it seems like they use a similar scheme for Holland.
And yes, any of the newer Samsung LCD's will be great for the PS3. Many of the Samsung LCD panels are manufactured in the same plant as Sony's (it's called S-LCD and it's a joint venture) and many comparable Samsung/Sony TV's use identical LCD panels. The difference is that you can usually get the Samsung model for much cheaper (up to about 40%!).
Firewarrior
08-23-2006, 17:40
There are some cheap 50'' Rear Projection Tv's for £900
http://www.zomp.net/shop/product_info.php?ctr=froogle&products_id=329625
These Tv's also are Pay Less for Quality
http://www.bluebuy.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/1777/ref/4
http://www.aspecttv.co.uk/shop/shop.php?c=viewproduct&pid=2
http://www.xtsit.com/browse/product_details.php?id=10707&sr=2
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MOH-Q421S&af=50
http://www.247av.com/product_info.php?products_id=23924&language=1
Too many so I'll stop there
I heard You can later/now Buy 103'' HDTV for $70,000 Damn thats a lot of Money
Thnx alot for the help now i can make my decision and buy one but at first i need my salary :rolleyes:
Greetz,
Lars
Well i gonna wait a year from 17th november,to i get a HDTV with the newest hardware,so it gonna be 17th november 2007 i will full enjoy my ps3!
and it is because i am taken a `42´size tv for 4500 dollars:)with the newest hardware,and it will be a SONY HDTV or A TOSHIBA HDTV!
Leper_Messiah
08-25-2006, 18:03
Well, I've been a'lookin' and someone suggested the:
Samsung HL-S5686W 56"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2P2T2/002-6344725-5848827?v=glance&n=172282
DLP
Build in Analog/Digital Tuner
Cinema Smooth 720p Tech
Up to 2500:1 CR
1280x720 Digital Format Converter
2 HDMI Intputs
2 Component Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i)
3 A/V Composite
2 S-Video Inputs
USB 1.1
PC (RGB) Input
Anyone have any opinions on this one?
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Then there is this one:
Samsung HL-S5087W 50"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F2R5HO/002-6344725-5848827?v=glance&n=172282
DLP
Build-in Analog/Digital Tuner
Samsung 1080p Light Engine
Up to 10,000:1 CR
1080p Compatiable via HDMI
2 HDMI Inputs
2 Component Video Imputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p)
3 A/V Composite
2 S-Video
USB 1.1
PC (RGB) Input
1080p Input Support
Now this one seems to be a better deal, at only 200 more..... Any opinions on this one?
Also, they both have:
Build-in Analog/Digital Tuner
Do those qualify as HD Tuners? Or be this only a HD Compatible TV, till you put a HD Tuner in it?
Thanks!
Hydra_Hobo
08-25-2006, 19:14
Leper,
I go tthe HL-S5686W, adn I couldn't be happier. I was concerned about game lag so I hooked up my xbox and Halo 2 doesnt lag at all even when I am not in game mode and I am not even using component(yet). It looks horible because of the crappy connection and the HUGE screen, but component cables shoudl fix that.
I thought about going the 1080p route, but now that I have a 720p in my house..I can't imagine how it would be worth it. Even at 56 inches, the image is SO crisp and clear. Colors are great. Black levels are amaing for my untrained eye. DNIe is a litle weird sometimes, but overall, I could't be happier with the TV.
Oh, and use a progressive scan dvd player or else you will get those crappy black lines. DVDs look AMAZING. The LOTR looks almost high def even though it is in crappy 480p.
I can't tell you about the 87 models, but I am sure you will be happy with that route too. They probably have even better picture (if that is possible to the untrained eye), but there just isnt enough 1080p material to justify that for me. Either way, I am sure you will be happy.
Leper,
I go tthe HL-S5686W, adn I couldn't be happier. I was concerned about game lag so I hooked up my xbox and Halo 2 doesnt lag at all even when I am not in game mode and I am not even using component(yet). It looks horible because of the crappy connection and the HUGE screen, but component cables shoudl fix that.
I thought about going the 1080p route, but now that I have a 720p in my house..I can't imagine how it would be worth it. Even at 56 inches, the image is SO crisp and clear. Colors are great. Black levels are amaing for my untrained eye. DNIe is a litle weird sometimes, but overall, I could't be happier with the TV.
Oh, and use a progressive scan dvd player or else you will get those crappy black lines. DVDs look AMAZING. The LOTR looks almost high def even though it is in crappy 480p.
I can't tell you about the 87 models, but I am sure you will be happy with that route too. They probably have even better picture (if that is possible to the untrained eye), but there just isnt enough 1080p material to justify that for me. Either way, I am sure you will be happy.
You can defeat DNIe by switching to movie mode.
I recommend www.avsforum.com if you have any specific questions about that TV and I would also check out Avia or Digital Video Essentials (those are two calibration DVD's).
I almost bought the 50" version of that TV but sadly had to go with a 32" Sammy LCD due to space constraints. I agree with you though... 720p looks amazing. I can't even imagine how good 1080p would look.
Yeah AVS forums are the PLACE to be for HDTV info.... the TV you are talking about it pretty good for sure. I would also reccomend it if your looking at Samsung TVs. I spent a month talking and reading on those forums before buying my 720p Sony 50" HDTV...... I aswell couldnt be happier. I was watching Discovery HD channel last night and you could see each little hair on the scorpions body.... and the most detail... it was just amazing, the colors.... very very nice.
And yeah DNIe can be kind of beaten with Movie Mode.... although its not a bad function.
OK, I just had to post in this thread since I go by vdo (ViDeO, get it?) and basically my avatar and sig say it all. I searched this particular thread and didn't find any mentions of SED. It's not out yet, but the manufacturing plants are getting set up and they should have them starting to come out by fall next year. So if that is your timeframe for a new TV or upgrade, it's worth a look.
The manufacturing costs are cheaper than both LCD and Plasma. Plasma has low cost screens, but high cost electronics because of the need for high voltages. LCD is the opposite, in which the screens are high cost, but the low voltage electronics are cheap. SED has the combination of lower cost screens like Plasma and lower cost electronics like LCD. So, SED monitors will probably not be cheaper than either of these at first since they will be newer and better, but they will be able to drop the prices faster because of this.
What do you get? Well the advantages of a CRT, plus more.
No viewing angle restrictions
Low power consumption.
Each pixel has it's own electron emitter squarely behind it (instead of a single electron gun to paint the whole image) which means no distortion due to the electrons hitting at an angle.
Contrast ratios of over 100,000:1 (no that is not a typo, it is a 1 followed by 5 zeros)
The ability to display 1080p (fits PS3 Blu-ray and 1080p games, nicely)
Sizes starting at 55" (it is much easier than LCD to scale SED to larger sizes)
Also, they have already perfected the manufacturing process and so this is not one of those "we think it should be able to be done" techonologies that is forever in the future. Here is a link describing more details:
http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/neasia/000003
Here's another one that's a little more technical:
http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/neasia/002048
Here's a link to engadget where they saw it at a trade show:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/08/sed-up-close-and-personal/
You can also click my sig below for more info on Toshiba's SED page (they are one of the main developers of the technology).
EDIT: Sorry, now I did find references to SED when I actually read through some of the thread. I didn't realize that when I searched the thread for SED, that it wasn't "no results" that I got back but that the search does not let you search for a term that small. Oh, well hopefully this post gives info and links that are useful.
yeah SED sets are great............ so are the newer LED DLPs.....
Definitely in the running for the next generation of HDTV for me. That's the technology I'm waiting for before I make my final offer to a store. ;)
There are a couple of other things I want to make sure are included in the set, like analog stereo line in and out. I'll want to be sending my audio to my stereo which is a darn nice system, I must say.
Yeah Ive got a pretty awesome sound system too.... 7.1 surround sound JBL speakers and a Sony reciever.. high end cables and wire, etc etc etc.... it was a n obsession with me... the TV, the audio system..... etc.
Does anyone know if HDTVs cause delays in games? I came across an old post in another forum where they were talking about how they can't stand playing Guitar Hero and some fighting games on HDTVs because of delays. I don't know if it has to do with the processing time it takes to upconvert signals within the HDTV?
A few models of the Samsung DLPs used to have that problem, other Tvs do as well... I dont know the list through.
RipVanWinkle
08-27-2006, 19:46
if you want a reasably priced, but good quality hdtv, iv'e heard that sharp makes the best inexpensive ones.
SuperSJ-PS3
08-27-2006, 22:24
I was doing some research on these hd set last night.
Sony KDF-E50A10
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDF_E50A10/4505-6484_7-31453800.html
Sony KD 34XBR970 - CRT TV - 34"
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KD_34XBR970_CRT_TV_34/4505-6481_7-31692320.html
Sony KDL-32S2000
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDL_32S2000/4505-6482_7-31694898.html
Sony KDF-E42A10
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDF_E42A10/4505-6484_7-31304863.html
Sony Bravia KDL-V40XBR1
http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Bravia_KDL_V40XBR1/4505-6482_7-31470102.html
And my final decision are to get the Sony Bravia KDL-V40XBR1, at first I were more interested in the Sony KDL-32S2000 but after reading a whole load of review by users and editors. I came to a conclusion of by getting the Sony Braivia KDL-V40XBR1, it would be a better buy overall.
Well i got a Panasonic-Viera HD plasma tv 42". I had it for about a year now and the only things that pisses me off about it's is that it didn't like my DVD that came with surround sound speakers so i had to get a new one and i wasn't able to send back the old one.
Here's the site or the magazine which which persuaded me to get it http://www.crutchfield.com/ISEO-rmsbcspd/hdtv/
The site doesn't only have hdtv's it has other tv's aswell, like EDTV, SDTV, Plasmas, rear projection and front projection.
Okay, time for a random, noobish search query.
money range - $300-400
size of screen - 19" - 25"
quality - Good? I'm looking for at least 720p as a resolution.
Is it possible? :P
nextgen3
08-27-2006, 23:11
i'm from the uk and i seen a nice lcd hdtv i like with a price off £899 and it a 32" LG tv and over 720p - 1080i/p. but does it really matter on what picture revolution it has or do i have to get over 720 & 1080i/p so the ps3 can handle the picture quailty. and what do these letters stand for i & p. help me out thanx ppl
Dead_EyeRO720
08-28-2006, 03:22
if you want a reasably priced, but good quality hdtv, iv'e heard that sharp makes the best inexpensive ones.
I can personally vouch for that.
SuperSJ-PS3
08-28-2006, 03:45
Okay, time for a random, noobish search query.
money range - $300-400
size of screen - 19" - 25"
quality - Good? I'm looking for at least 720p as a resolution.
Is it possible? :P
I found a good one for you.
Samsung TX R2678WH - CRT TV - 26": $369.99 Amazon.com
ShortSpec:
Product type: CRT TV - Color
Technology: CRT
Diagonal size: 26 in
Image aspect ratio: 16:9
Remote control type: Universal remote control (Infrared)
Supported DTV Resolutions: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i (via Component sockets), 480p (via Component sockets), 720p (via Component sockets), 1080i (via Component sockets)
Comb filter: 4-line digital
Sound output mode: Stereo
Hmm, that looks pretty nice. For a CRT, it looks wonderful, I'll sure be looking into this one in November, my only actual problem is the fact that it's 26", CRT, and looks pretty big. My desk currently has a 13" CRT on it, and it's takes up quite a bit of space, so I'm looking into LCD's around that price range to stick up on the wall above my desk.
Nonetheless, after all, it is PS3, so space constraints shouldn't hold me back from buying the perfect TV. Thanks :P
#1 tv hands down no matter what best tv for ps3
dont even fight about it with me....if you have seen this thing on a blue ray player you know what im talkin about.....
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS4695DXXAA.asp
if you see this on a blue ray player...you will sh*t your pants..:)
I've seen the 40" LCD at Best Buy on a Blu-Ray player.
The quality is simply outstanding. The picture, sound, it's all beyond what you'd expect from a TV.
Thing is, it's $3299 =\
CashMoney
08-28-2006, 05:05
Don't be afraid of CRT's if you have the space and don't mind the weight... They still produce some of the best "blacks" you will see... plus, you don't have to worry about response-times, screen-door effect, ghosting, quick burn in, etc... They're most cost efficent as well... just you don't see as much support now as ppl are too "space" concerned for nick-nacks and such... so everyone is shifting away from CRT's because of that...
It's up to each person individually... Can you "afford" the "space"? Do you have a good eye (ghosting, screendoor, blacks washed grey, etc)? Do certain refresh rates bother your eyes? And most importantly, what is your budget? If you can wait, do that... 1080p sets will be dropping in price over time as everything else... LCD tech will make some more advancements... etc... etc... etc...
Things to make sure though for now:
Widescreen (you'd be suprised what you're missing in games designed for HD... I was... lost lots of field of view in certain games)
At least 720p
HDMI - should have one port (supposedly that connection really is superior to component)
SpitFireVRR
08-28-2006, 05:13
Hey guys,
We got a nice Mitsubishi TV awhile back, and I wanted to see if it would be up to my gaming standards. It's HD, 1080 w/ HDMI...just want a "okay, you don't need a new TV."
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.epinions.com/images/opti/ea/5b/pr-Mitsubishi_WS-55413_55_in_Rear_Projection_HDTV-Ready_Television-resized80.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.epinions.com/Projection_Televisions-price_bucket_2-Mitsubishi&h=80&w=80&sz=2&hl=en&sig2=omlKP-1Nxng-KZIk4liy7Q&start=12&tbnid=z1Z7PnrvfxuyvM:&tbnh=70&tbnw=70&ei=ZGvyRLHDGsWE6AHHw-nKAQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmitsubishi%2BWS-55413%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff% 26rls%3DHPIB,HPIB:2006-33,HPIB:en%26sa%3DN
one thing i gatta say though..no matter what tube hdtv's always have the best quality..its a FACT...like you can ask a person who studies tv's for a living...the other ones are great too, but there just other technology...1080i on tube vs lcd...tube wins..trust me I HATE to say it..but its true...problem is no 1080p tubes :(
yeah ... thats why tube tvs suck. no progressive.
IMO, progressive scan is over-hyped. Games still look best on a good tube TV (like the 34 inch widescreen Sony Wega). The only problems are that 34 inches is about as big as they come these days and that thing weighs ~200 lbs.
And my final decision are to get the Sony Bravia KDL-V40XBR1, at first I were more interested in the Sony KDL-32S2000 but after reading a whole load of review by users and editors. I came to a conclusion of by getting the Sony Braivia KDL-V40XBR1, it would be a better buy overall.
It seems like you're stuck on Sony, but do yourself a favor and check out the comparable Samsung LCD's. Samsung and Sony use the same LCD panels (manufactured in their jointly-owned plant) and in my research I found that the Samsungs provided a slightly better picture and cost hundreds less.
I'll be checking out this 24" HDMI 1080P display when it comes out:
http://www.benq.com/products/LCD/?product=812
Works both as a 1920x1200 PC display as well as a fully compatible 1080P display.
I'll use it for PC games as well as PS3 and graphic design work. I think the size is a good comprimise for offering true 1080p support through HDMI.
Costs around $900 US
Brian
cheap great tv... thats what im lookin for!!!! any hlp u techy ppl!?!?!
Okay, time for a random, noobish search query.
money range - $300-400
size of screen - 19" - 25"
quality - Good? I'm looking for at least 720p as a resolution.
Is it possible? :P
Not until the year 2010 and am not joking am serious, every tv that is under27" will be able to play 720 pixel images in a price range of 400-900 dollars.
But for now in order for you to get a tv with 720pixels and is 19-25" you need to add 1000 to your price range.
How likely will it be that I can use 1080p with this monitor (normal LCD)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001222
Will there be a VGA adapter like the 360 has, and being as its native resolution is 1900 x 1200 would it be able to be set as that through the Ps3?
I really hope Sony thought of stuff like this like M$ did.
How likely will it be that I can use 1080p with this monitor (normal LCD)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001222
Will there be a VGA adapter like the 360 has, and being as its native resolution is 1900 x 1200 would it be able to be set as that through the Ps3?
I really hope Sony thought of stuff like this like M$ did.
That should work. It accepts a DVI input and the PS3 outputs HDMI -- they are compatible, you would just need to buy an HDMI to DVI cable at a place like www.monoprice.com.
CashMoney
08-28-2006, 20:53
one thing i gatta say though..no matter what tube hdtv's always have the best quality..its a FACT...like you can ask a person who studies tv's for a living...the other ones are great too, but there just other technology...1080i on tube vs lcd...tube wins..trust me I HATE to say it..but its true...problem is no 1080p tubes :(
Exactly... I've done more than enough research on this... and unless "Space" and "weight" is THAT much of an issue, you can get a CRT HD-set for way less, and have a better picture...
Well... there's a lot of new "tube" tech briming around... hopefully we'll see some of it soon...
*edit - HighPs3: I think Sony mentioned this a long time ago that they'd have that VGA adaptor... After all, they're offering ALL the connections you can want, especially the best of the best...
That should work. It accepts a DVI input and the PS3 outputs HDMI -- they are compatible, you would just need to buy an HDMI to DVI cable at a place like www.monoprice.com.
Cool hope that works! Dont know if im going that route of for a LCDTV 37" @ 720p?!?
Really tough choice Quality or Quanity?
dlp's are just really bad. idk if its just me but i look at one and the quality is really not good at all....its just like a waste.
dlp's are just really bad. idk if its just me but i look at one and the quality is really not good at all....its just like a waste.
Really? I've seen Samsung DLP's side-by-side with Sony LCD Projection TV's and they image quality is comparable (everyone has their own preference).
ya dude i saw the 1080p dlp that samsung has....i cant agree but it is my opinion...i just think that one lcd is the best tv iv ever seen...i posted it like a page ago..its sweet
worm1618
08-29-2006, 06:23
Thought I drop by and leave some cheese for the mice. If you are looking for a great TV for your ps3 look no further. The Samsung LN-S3251D or its smaller brother Samsung LN-S2651D is all you need for a superb quality/price product. The price for both range anywhere from 1100-1500$ depending where you get it. For a bedroom it looks really good... Not to mention Samsungs exclusive DNIe (Digital Natural Image engine) does make a difference when playing games on an LCD HDTV. It’s a really good 720p HDTV with 2 HDMI inputs... If you are looking for more specs on the TV go to cnet and lookup the model number. In the 26-32 range it was the best rated HDTV and it shows... you can also access their HDTV world 2.0 and search for a different sized television set if you don’t think that’s the one for you. But personally.... for the price and their "enhanced game mode" feature... it’s almost a steal. Plus LCD's don’t have burn in like the plasmas so you don’t have to worry about your health-bar burning in when playing a great fps like resistance in the future. Also when it comes to people talking about 1080p... from my personal experience and countless hours of research... you only see a difference on gigantic televisions with a diagonal size of 60' and up. Many TV’s that I read about that support this in the 26-32' range don’t show a quality difference whatsoever. Unless of course your 2 inches from the TV... =P anywho... for research i recommend pcmag.com and cnet.com... and of course there are many more but I think I already wrote too much... as a closing statement i wish all of you good luck on finding a great TV for the ps3!
SuperSJ-PS3
08-29-2006, 06:40
IMO, progressive scan is over-hyped. Games still look best on a good tube TV (like the 34 inch widescreen Sony Wega). The only problems are that 34 inches is about as big as they come these days and that thing weighs ~200 lbs.
It seems like you're stuck on Sony, but do yourself a favor and check out the comparable Samsung LCD's. Samsung and Sony use the same LCD panels (manufactured in their jointly-owned plant) and in my research I found that the Samsungs provided a slightly better picture and cost hundreds less.
Actually I review alot of other brand HDTV as well, I just narrow it down to Sony. Sony seem to have the best rating and lots positive users reviews. I gone through almost every famous name brand, and Sony seem to stand out the most. The only problem about the hdtv set that I want is price retailing from $2150 to $2500 online.
What you guys think of this TV
Brand SAMSUNG
Model LNS4095DX/XAA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889102106
SuperSJ-PS3
08-29-2006, 08:40
What you guys think of this TV
Brand SAMSUNG
Model LNS4095DX/XAA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889102106
Is a very good Tv but very pricy too.
Martix, your tv is good for gaming, movies, and hdtv, but it dosen't do well with sdtv.
Hydra_Hobo, that tv is good, but have you also considered this:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDF55E2000&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_55to8 0TVs
http://www.abesofmaine.com/viewproduct.asp?id=snkdf55e2000&l=Pricegrabber (good store)
Dude I just realized that this is the tv I have:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDLV32XBR1&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_32to40
I knew that the tv i posted earlier didn't look right. I never clicked on the large view link so I guess I'm forgiven:) But the main reason I thought it was that one was because the model name of this tv (the one I just posted the link to) is apparently different in Europe. It's called KDL-32V2000, and that model name doesn't exist on sony's site, so this has to be the one because it looks exactly the same.
Is it any good?
worm1618
08-29-2006, 09:06
even though i havent seen it in person i do think that the LN-S3296D is the king among Samsung displays right now. looking back at Aleman's LN-S3292D tv in the xbox thread put tears to my eyes. madden has never looked that good.. ever.. so assuming that the 92 is an older version and the 96 is newer i would say that the picture quality must eaither be on par or better.
Is a very good Tv but very pricy too.
I dont care much about the price but today I was checking this TV out in Best Buy connected to a Blue Ray player and it was so clear that I couldnt look at any other TV's in there. Im gonna definitly pick this up for my PS3.
even though i havent seen it in person i do think that the LN-S3296D is the king among Samsung displays right now. looking back at Aleman's LN-S3292D tv in the xbox thread put tears to my eyes. madden has never looked that good.. ever.. so assuming that the 92 is an older version and the 96 is newer i would say that the picture quality must eaither be on par or better.
Yea the 3292D is probably the second best 32 inch LCD on the market... behind the 96D. They both came out at the same time but the 96D has a little better contrast ratio and is about an inch thinner.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/aleman360/IMG_1185.jpg
Ahhh, Madden has never looked so good. More pics here if you're interested:
http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=26366
yeah ... thats why tube tvs suck. no progressive.
I have A 27" SlimFit Samsung CRT HDTV. It displays both 720p and 1080i. Don't believe me? Check the link then download the Spec sheet and go down to the 2nd page and look at display format. It clearly says 1080i/480p/720p.
Link: http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/ArchivedTelevisions/txr2779hkxxaa.asp?page=size_contents
worm1618
08-30-2006, 07:24
Aleman, does your 3292d accept 1080p ? or just 720p.. becuase i hear only the 40-46" models accept 1080p. unless im wrong, i think that when you connect your tv through HDMI it automatically converts it to 1080i/1080p.
Crazy Phat
08-30-2006, 07:30
Samsung and Sony use the same LCD panels (manufactured in their jointly-owned plant) and in my research I found that the Samsungs provided a slightly better picture and cost hundreds less.
The use the same screen, but not the same technology. The deal was to share the same factory to plus up their production. Partnership I guess. Yeah Samsung makes some good LCDs, but their strange usage of HDMI 1.0 and no control of the backlight really turn me off. From my research, it seems like Sharp and Sony are the top LCD manufacteres. The Samsung LCDs are kind of blurry when I saw it at Best Buy running Xbox 360 games(Blazing Angels). Anyway, I think the Bravia XBR1 series were hailed the best LCDs until the 51D came out(which is better and has a much better design but I do not like the weak speakers) until the Bravia XBR2 comes out that is. But each is entitled to their opinion. Peace.
SuperSJ-PS3
08-30-2006, 07:35
I got a question: Plasma or LCD HDTV? which one is better...
Anyone know about this LG 42' Plasma? I'm looking into it and might buy it.
http://us.lge.com/products/model/detail/tv|audio|video_plasma%20flat%20panel__42PC3DV.jhtm l
Crazy Phat
08-30-2006, 07:49
If you have a dark lit room or low lit leveled room or not alot of glare from things like a outside window, then get a Plasma but their is also a chance of burn in though the burn in issue I think has been resolved(but can still make you paranoid, ''don't pause game it will be burned in''). Get a LCD if your room is highly or mediumly lit, or you have some glare then get a LCD. But don't get some cheap arse off brand unknown company as there Plasmas or LCD might have sever burn in or bad ghosting or piss poor black levels.
For LCDs(if you can afford the price), Samsung, Sharp, Sony, and Toshiba are your best bet(though I am a little biased to Sony with their LCDs). For plasma Panasonic, Pioneer, Fajitsu, LG(I think are good) are your best bet.
For cheap LCDs with good performance and build, get a Westinginhouse or Olivia LCD as they are pretty good.
I can say that I get tons of enjoyment out of my Sony 50" LCD HDTV. Its a great television.
I can say that I get tons of enjoyment out of my Sony 50" LCD HDTV. Its a great television.
Sony LCD TV's are awesomeness!
The thing with Sony and Samsung LCD's is that they offer very similar image quality (debatable either way), yet the comparable Sony's cost hundreds more. For example, the Samsung LN-S3251D is $1519 at Best Buy. The Sony XBR1 is $1999.
And my TV is 720p native by the way. I don't think there are any 32 inch LCD TV's out there that are 1080p native. There are some 37 inch 1080p LCD's though (I know Westinghouse and Sharp make them).
Aleman is my TV good do you think? I just want to ask since you seem to know a lot about flat screen TV's. I myself am very happy with it.
Just look at the link I wrote above.
Aleman is my TV good do you think? I just want to ask since you seem to know a lot about flat screen TV's. I myself am very happy with it.
Just look at the link I wrote above.
Yea it's very good. You just paid way too much IMO ;)
Crazy Phat
08-30-2006, 16:14
The thing with Sony and Samsung LCD's is that they offer very similar image quality (debatable either way), yet the comparable Sony's cost hundreds more. For example, the Samsung LN-S3251D is $1519 at Best Buy. The Sony XBR1 is $1999.
And my TV is 720p native by the way. I don't think there are any 32 inch LCD TV's out there that are 1080p native. There are some 37 inch 1080p LCD's though (I know Westinghouse and Sharp make them).
Well because the new Samsungs are always cheaper with dual HDMIs(nice), Wide Colour Gamut(nice), and a really beautiful picture(nice). But I just do not like some of Samsung's options. No control over backlight, weak speakers, HDMI 1.0 ports, etc. But anyway, I am biased somewhat. I generally thought all Sony TVs are overpriced, until I saw the XBR1 last year and read the reviews. I thought it was the best LCD HDTV until the 51D came which provides a slightly better picture for cheaper. But the new Bravia lines and the new Bravia V32XBR2 are looking mighty fine about now(1700:1, Wide Colour Gamut Live Colour Creation, HDMI 1.3, Black, etc.).
But I just do not like some of Samsung's options. No control over backlight, weak speakers, HDMI 1.0 ports, etc.
What does 'no control over backlight' mean? My 3292D has four different backlight brightness settings. The speakers are pretty strong too. I don't use my Logitech Z-5500's anymore b/c the built-in speakers on this TV are fine. I'm not sure which version of HDMI it uses though.
The XBR2 compares to the Samsung 3296D. The XBR2 has the advantage of a 7000:1 dynamic contrast (vs. 6000:1 for the Samsung) but only has 1 HMDI port (and I'm pretty sure it's not HDMI 1.3). For a price comparison, the 3296D can be found for ~$1436 online [1], which is even cheaper than the XBR1 at ~$1479 [2] (with shipping included). I'm guessing the XBR2 will be ~$1700 online when it comes out in September and the Samsung should be ~$1400 by then.
So what I'm basically saying is that Sony's XBR TV's are awesome but IMO they're very overpriced compared to Samsung's.
1. http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Samsung_LN_S3296D_32_LCD_TV,__22611354/search=ln-s3296d
2. http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Sony_KDL_V32XBR1_32_LCD_TV,__11344090/search=sony+xbr1
Have any of you guys heard of KDL-32V2000? That's the name of my TV, and it looks exactly like the XDR1. Could it possibly have different model names in Europe and USA?
Aleman, what Crazy Phat meant by "no control over backlight" is that you can't control the brightness of the light that's illuminating the screen from the inside. I'm not sure what it's called in english.
Yes, the Sonys and Samsung LCDs are top quality. I highly reccomend them, from personal experience Iam very happy with my purchase and simply cannot wait to play PS3 in High Defenition on my big tv. Gonna be sweet.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926HDS0010073188&logon=&langid=EN# check it out and tell me what u think.:2gun: :-D y is this guy happy if he is getting shot.
Aleman, what Crazy Phat meant by "no control over backlight" is that you can't control the brightness of the light that's illuminating the screen from the inside. I'm not sure what it's called in english.
Yes, I know what he's talking about. And yes, my TV lets me control the backlight intensity (through the Energy Saving mode, there are four settings).
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...n=&lan gid=EN# check it out and tell me what u think. y is this guy happy if he is getting shot.
That's a nice TV but this year's 40U Sharp models aren't the greatest. The Sharp's with the silver casing are better than the black ones. They do have a (silver) 37 inch 1080p TV that's pretty good.
Crazy Phat
08-30-2006, 19:52
What does 'no control over backlight' mean? My 3292D has four different backlight brightness settings. The speakers are pretty strong too. I don't use my Logitech Z-5500's anymore b/c the built-in speakers on this TV are fine. I'm not sure which version of HDMI it uses though.
The XBR2 compares to the Samsung 3296D. The XBR2 has the advantage of a 7000:1 dynamic contrast (vs. 6000:1 for the Samsung) but only has 1 HMDI port (and I'm pretty sure it's not HDMI 1.3). For a price comparison, the 3296D can be found for ~$1436 online [1], which is even cheaper than the XBR1 at ~$1479 [2] (with shipping included). I'm guessing the XBR2 will be ~$1700 online when it comes out in September and the Samsung should be ~$1400 by then.
So what I'm basically saying is that Sony's XBR TV's are awesome but IMO they're very overpriced compared to Samsung's.
1. http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Samsung_LN_S3296D_32_LCD_TV,__22611354/search=ln-s3296d
2. http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Sony_KDL_V32XBR1_32_LCD_TV,__11344090/search=sony+xbr1
I was only assumming as HDMI 1.3 capable TVs are suppose to be released this Fall. Yes the Samsung has dual HDMI, but they still use HDMI 1.0. Dynamic contrast ratio is one of the worst ways to judge a TVs contrast at is usually blown up marketing hype and to make companys' numbers better than there competition. A fair comparison would be the actual contrast, and the XBR2 seems to have a 1700:1 contrast ratio. I also do not prefer Samsung as some of their TVs have weak speakers. The XBR2 is similar to the European Bravia V2000 series which Cnet as well as other HDTV reviewers hailed as the sharpest picture yet on a HDTV. So that gives me a indicative of how the XBR2 will perform. IMO, Samsung makes some quality TVs for a reasonable price, but their are better TVs for a few hundred dollars more.
Here's a slick deal on a Westinghouse W3 37 inch 1080p LCD HDTV for only $1300:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pqfe5TF1z1h/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=260050&I=647LVM37W3&pfxid=k1971
That TV has gotten pretty good reviews from people on the AVS Forum.
CashMoney
08-30-2006, 22:30
I have A 27" SlimFit Samsung CRT HDTV. It displays both 720p and 1080i. Don't believe me? Check the link then download the Spec sheet and go down to the 2nd page and look at display format. It clearly says 1080i/480p/720p.
I think he's referencing that there's no 1080p CRT's... there's lot's of CRT's that do 720p... I have one ;) hehe...
desertrat
09-01-2006, 00:10
Here is some good news for that HDTV to go with the PS3. Prices will be dropping 20 to 30 percent next year.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14601875/wid/11915829?GT1=8404
MATRIX 2
09-01-2006, 00:56
1 st of all no consumer crt can display 720p. 2nd hdtv's are becoming pretty cheap, I suspect by the end of the year you can get a 32 inch name brand lcd tv for around $700-$800.
thats why I am waiting, no sense buying a tv now when in 2-3 monts that tv could cost hundreds less.
Ballz2TheWallz
09-01-2006, 05:59
1 st of all no consumer crt can display 720p.
Wow, lets talk out our ass without looking **** up, FYI panasonic manufactured 720p direct view CRTs
I think he's referencing that there's no 1080p CRT's... there's lot's of CRT's that do 720p... I have one ;) hehe...
Oh... I thought he meant progressive scan in general or 720p. Oh, and MATRIX 2, why don't you pay attention. This link is my T.V. - go to the specs where it clearly says it can display 720p.
Link: http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/A...=size_contents
Ballz2TheWallz
09-01-2006, 06:18
Oh... I thought he meant progressive scan in general or 720p. Oh, and MATRIX 2, why don't you pay attention. This link is my T.V. - go to the specs where it clearly says it can display 720p.
Link: http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/A...=size_contents
lol broken link................................
Hah one second...
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/ArchivedTelevisions/txr2779hkxxaa.asp?page=size_contents
How's that?
Ballz2TheWallz
09-01-2006, 06:22
Hah one second...
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/ArchivedTelevisions/txr2779hkxxaa.asp?page=size_contents
How's that?
Does not say it displays @720p just says it accepts it
You would be best off giving it a 1080i signal because nowhere does it state its 720p
Alright here are some directions. After you've clicked on the link you want to go to the top right and click on "download spec sheet". When that is up, scroll down to the 2nd page and on the left side near the top you'll see "Display Format: 1080i/480p/720p". That's right under the aspect ratio and the tuner. See it? I'm victorious yet again!
SuperSJ-PS3
09-01-2006, 06:41
I'm getting the Sony KDL-40XBR2 now... Anyone got this TV?
nope whats with the name of tvs anyway there so confusing some on explain....