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Awesome walk through that's show you the hardware, live and the controller up close. They go into live more as well.
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2424
muchuukuri
05-21-2005, 13:59
Oh! Very nice. <br />
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Reading through thr article I kinda have to agree with Anand about the market place... I dunno how thrilled I am at spending MORE money. It's bad as it is already. Personally,...
bustabusta196
05-21-2005, 14:25
There rechargable batteries.
You can buy a Lithium Ion recharable battery pack for the Xbox360 Wireless controller. I think it will cost about $20. It will come with wire you can hook up to the Xbox360 to recharge and play at...
Chaotic_King
05-22-2005, 03:43
The more I see the 360, the more I think it really is the perfect next-gen console. The controller, I just can't get over it. I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but they take an already great controller (S), and tweak it to perfection. It's just amazing. Even the console, I'm liking how it looks a lot more (Well, compared to the PS3), as well as how Live is blended into it so perfectly.
I almost hate Microsoft for making the 360 so perfect. :P
PeanutButterMunky
05-22-2005, 03:49
They really did a good job with the controller this time around.
Alkemist
05-22-2005, 05:18
Yea, ive never been much of an MS fan. But this Xbox360 is looking sexier everytime i look at it. One thing i can give to microsoft, their doing a good job advertising their product.
Chaotic_King
05-23-2005, 20:34
Yea, ive never been much of an MS fan. But this Xbox360 is looking sexier everytime i look at it. One thing i can give to microsoft, their doing a good job advertising their product.
At least I'm not the only one.
Lord Darkblade
05-23-2005, 21:25
muchuukuri, RF is fine, range is 5ft ->990ft easily (my wireless desktop has a range of about 12 feet, my wireless card gets around 990ft if not obstructed by things like walls... in my house it gets about 20ft through many walls). (1.5m/300m)
Blue tooth has different classes for the range/power, class 2 iirc is 33ft, Class 1 is 330ft. (10m/100m).
Blue tooth generally is lower power.
Kudos to MS, that controller looks nice, hope our boomerang doesn't come back to haunt us...
Chaotic, since when did Microsoft have better controller this generation? Maybe that is just your personal preferance, but I know existing X-Box controllers do not even compare to dual shock on this...
You are forgetting that MS can also make Wired controllers for those who wish to avoid any battery or recharge issues. <br />
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Notice that all the consoles at E3 were hooked up with Wired controllers?
Chaotic_King
05-23-2005, 22:43
Chaotic, since when did Microsoft have better controller this generation? Maybe that is just your personal preferance, but I know existing X-Box controllers do not even compare to dual shock on this gen for most gamers, hell they even make adapter to use dual shock on X-Box.
I do like the shape od 360 controller, it fits my hand alot better then existing controllers and the triggers are a nice addition. I played it at E3 this year and it is alot better then the bulk they have right now.
I never said they had the better controller this generation. I said, that they took a great controller, the Controller S, and tweaked it to perfection.
BTW talked with Sony reps and they where very quick to point out the boomerang design is a consept design only, and no production of these controlers has began, and it has not been determined final design. I suspect after the flack from E3 many gamers gave them they will go back to similar best contoller design the dual shock. Most all gamers agree the dual shock is by far best conroller design.
What about the console?
I wouldn't say the Xbox360 controller is perfection by any stretch.
1) We have yet to hold the PS3 controller and judge it's comfort
2) Having held the Xbox360 controller, I can state that I do not personally like the positioning of the upper set of buttons on the back of the controller. It was very difficult for me to reach them comfortably.
But, if I lined up both my index and middle finger to where one was on each, it was amazingly comfortable.
Epsilon-Zero
05-24-2005, 01:30
Isnt sony doing the same thing with having all wireless controllers? <br />
There havent been any confirmed reports about any standard Dualshock controller ports on the PS3 and there hasnt been any reports...
Chaotic_King
05-24-2005, 03:08
I wouldn't say the Xbox360 controller is perfection by any stretch.
1) We have yet to hold the PS3 controller and judge it's comfort
2) Having held the Xbox360 controller, I can state that I do not personally like the positioning of the upper set of buttons on the back of the controller. It was very difficult for me to reach them comfortably.
But, if I lined up both my index and middle finger to where one was on each, it was amazingly comfortable.
Well, for the moment, it's up for the running of the best controller. I've heard nothing but positive reviews of it. Even looking at the PS3 controller, you can tell, that it looks very uncomfortable.
Again I do not think you read my post. Sony has stated their wireless controller will come with an lithium battery built in, no need to purchase it as an accessory, unlike M$. Sony is not...
Chaotic, since when did Microsoft have better controller this generation? Maybe that is just your personal preferance, but I know existing X-Box controllers do not even compare to dual shock on this gen for most gamers, hell they even make adapter to use dual shock on X-Box.
I do like the shape od 360 controller, it fits my hand alot better then existing controllers and the triggers are a nice addition. I played it at E3 this year and it is alot better then the bulk they have right now.
I never said they had the better controller this generation. I said, that they took a great controller, the Controller S, and tweaked it to perfection. Again that must just be a personal preferance, nobody I know, even Uber Box Fanboys think the Controller S is "great" controller, or this 360 is "perfection". My personal preferance is the 360 is a huge jump over existing box controller (including S), and alot better in many ways, but personally I still would rather play using the dual shock, espically if they added a headset jack (maybe USB port) and wireless control. I do not think I am alone in my preferance on the Dual Shock, as it has been reviewed by many independant sources as the best controller design yet, as well as a majority of gamers.
BTW talked with Sony reps and they where very quick to point out the boomerang design is a consept design only, and no production of these controlers has began, and it has not been determined final design. I suspect after the flack from E3 many gamers gave them they will go back to similar best contoller design the dual shock. Most all gamers agree the dual shock is by far best conroller design.
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The console design is pretty much done, they could tweak a few ports and specific layout point, but do not expect a different looking design then the one you see already. The design is pretty clean, fits normal tv / stereo stands. I see nothing really wrong with the design of the system, it is larger then 360 but you can understand that seeing as they got 2-3X more under the hood.
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Dez, you know better than to double post <br />
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Actually, if you look at it from a different perspective, Sony may not be giving you as much of an option and actually...
Chaotic_King
05-24-2005, 21:02
Again that must just be a personal preferance, nobody I know, even Uber Box Fanboys think the Controller S is "great" controller, or this 360 is "perfection". My personal preferance is the 360 is a huge jump over existing box controller (including S), and alot better in many ways, but personally I still would rather play using the dual shock, espically if they added a headset jack (maybe USB port) and wireless control. I do not think I am alone in my preferance on the Dual Shock, as it has been reviewed by many independant sources as the best controller design yet, as well as a majority of gamers.
Well, you've met you first one. (You can easily find more)
The console design is pretty much done, they could tweak a few ports and specific layout point, but do not expect a different looking design then the one you see already. The design is pretty clean, fits normal tv / stereo stands. I see nothing really wrong with the design of the system, it is larger then 360 but you can understand that seeing as they got 2-3X more under the hood.
A) That just sucks. I guess we're stuck with the deisng. :cry:
B) I thought PS Gamer said it wasn't bigger than the Xbox360? I might have been able to get over the design, but if it's bigger than the 360...
Well, I think that might be the final nail in the coffin. I think I'm going with the 360 over the PS3. 2x-3x more useless features we do not need under the hood, yes. In terms of power, they are going to be so incredibly close, it's not funny.
:lol: Sony poked fun of the Xbox because of its size, but look who has the biggest console now.
Would you rather gamers see PS3 controllers on the shelf for $60 each while Xbox360 controllers are also wireless and for sale for $40 for wireless, $30 for wired, and an optional upgrade for $20 to Lithium Ion wireless for the wireless?
Remember, choice is always better in the consumer's eye.
What makes you think PS3 controllers will see for $60?
If Microsoft is selling wired controllers with option to buy a battery and go wirless, they should not promote the systems as being wireless controllers, since the default setup and sale does not support that. Actually Sony building in the wireless connectivity and including the battery will be less expensive the Microsoft buy seperate program, this you can put money in the bank on. Sony can manufacture these products much cheaper then Microsoft, espically since they manufacture the controller and battery themselves, and putting them together instead of seperate packaging and shipping, will save alot more money.
So What if Microsoft controller cost $30 wired, $20 for battery making it $50 for a wireless controller, where as Sony could have a built in Wireless controller out of the box for $35-$40? Now they got cheaper controller, built in true wireless, and (if they go back to dual shock design...which they should) a better more familiar design...
Well, you've met you first one. (You can easily find more) You are a minority, this is not a guess on my part, but plain fact.
A) That just sucks. I guess we're stuck with the deisng. :cry:
B) I thought PS Gamer said it wasn't bigger than the Xbox360? I might have been able to get over the design, but if it's bigger than the 360...
Well, I think that might be the final nail in the coffin. I think I'm going with the 360 over the PS3. 2x-3x more useless features we do not need under the hood, yes. In terms of power, they are going to be so incredibly close, it's not funny.
:lol: Sony poked fun of the Xbox because of its size, but look who has the biggest console now.
A) I don't know what you problem is with the design, looks alright to me, I don't like the spider man font, but that could change..
B) They have dimensions out there, but I am fairly sure PS3 is larger then 360, now it is nowhere near the bulk and design of exisitng X-Box, but nothing really is. PS3 is same lenght as a DVD player, cable box, Reciever, ect,.. and is designed to sit in with those items on your tv stand..
C) I think you have just gone off deep end, if you think the 2-3X better everything is useless and power is anything near equal, that is just a uber-ignorant statement on your part. I know you cannot belive those are actual in game graphics you are seeing but they are, and yes they are that much better then 360. If you are happy with top quality this gen technologies stay with Microsoft and the 360, if you want to go next gen, get a PS3.
Chaotic_King
05-24-2005, 22:31
You are a minority, this is not a guess on my part, but plain fact.
Go to TeamXbox, Xbox365, etc. etc. etc. A lot of Xbox owners like the controller, and A LOT of people love the 360 controller. I've yet to hear much of anything negative about it.
A) I don't know what you problem is with the design, looks alright to me, I don't like the spider man font, but that could change..
I just think it's a poor design compared to the other consoles. Very uninspired and, well, boring, awkward, etc. etc. etc.
B) They have dimensions out there, but I am fairly sure PS3 is larger then 360, now it is nowhere near the bulk and design of exisitng X-Box, but nothing really is. PS3 is same lenght as a DVD player, cable box, Reciever, ect,.. and is designed to sit in with those items on your tv stand..
If we go with the IGN dimensions, the PS3 is larger than the original Xbox. If we go with 1up's dimensions, the Xbox360 is basically the same size as the Xbox. If that's the case the PS3 is larger. DVD players, cable box's, reciever's, etc. etc. etc. are all different sizes.
C) I think you have just gone off deep end, if you think the 2-3X better everything is useless and power is anything near equal, that is just a uber-ignorant statement on your part. I know you cannot belive those are actual in game graphics you are seeing but they are, and yes they are that much better then 360. If you are happy with top quality this gen technologies stay with Microsoft and the 360, if you want to go next gen, get a PS3.
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You have got to be kidding me. The PS3 is not 2-3 times more powerful than the Xbox360. Depending on the GPU, the difference is marginal. (GPU wise, it's likely the Xenos is the better of the two. It is based off of the next next gen ATi GPU, unlike the RSX which is likely based off of the G70. Also, those specs shown at the conference are likely to decrease. Both Sony and nVidia are known to overhype their specs.) From what I hear, the PS3 is riddled with bottlenecks, main one being the bandwith. So even if the PS3 is more powerful, it won't be my much. The gap won't be Xbox/PS2 or even GCN/Xbox, it would be much closer.
Those are not in-game shots, you can't compare them to the Xbox360 games, because the Xbox360 games are actually up and running, and, they are on Alpha kits, which implies, the games are going to be much better looking when they get their hands on the final hardware.
The system comes default with a wireless controller and support for wireless controllers built into it.
Are you saying that they should not give consumers even the option of buying a "Wired" controller? Why would they not want to. Wired is quarenteed to be cheaper to produce than Wireless and as such it offers a nice alternative for those that want to pick up 1 - 3 extra controllers for friends to play with but not spend as much money doing so.
I repeat "the default setup and sale does support wireless". I don't know what made you think otherwise.
Why can't MS manufacture as cheap as Sony? They have their own plants to produce stuff that they built in China. They acquire all the materials through whomever they want. Unless Sony is also producing all of the plastics, batteries, collecting the raw materials, and manufacturing, they can't really go much cheaper. Maybe a penny or 2 here or there.
The $60 was a rough eastimate. It is probably off. But it is a fact that Sony will not be able to include a Lithium Ion battery in a controller for much cheaper (if anything) than it would cost to just buy it.
Also, just because MS is offering an upgrade for the battery based wireless controllers, what is to prevent MS from also offering controllers that come with the Lithium Ion package built in?
muchuukuri
05-24-2005, 22:56
I'm with you in terms of design... all I wanted was a sleaked over PS2 with the same font and 3 instead of a 2. The new one looks like Sony was trying too hard to distinguish the PS3 away from the PS2.
IGN is full of junk. They got their dimensions off a forum. Remember consider the source of the information before you go believing it. By the by if you care I've done my own comparison of the dimesions...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/muchuukuri/Compare.jpg
Err... the PS3 isn't riddled with bottlenecks... and even the bandwidth bottleneck is under contention... we simply don't know enough about the RSX. Also, don't be fooled into think the X2 is bottleneck free either.
As to the power? Ha! 2-3x my butt. Maybe he meant 2/3x more powerful?? Still too much, IMO, but based on what we know I can see people saying that. Personally, I think the X2 is about 2/3rds the powerd of the PS3 and by the end of their lifetimes in terms of optimizations it'll probably be well over 3/4ths the power ... I'm think 80%. So, kinda like this gen only in reverse.
As to the graphics... I've said this before, but anyway... Heavenly Sword is 100% without contetion real in game graphics. So right there you have something to compare to. Also, both systems are running on alpha kits though Sony's are closer to the real thing... though I dunno how much so.
Nice comparison.
Just a note, the Xbox360 is not using the same kind of plug as a PC or most likely the PS3. If you look at the connector anandtech.com you can see that pretty straight forward.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/tradeshows/2005/E3/day2/xbox360/back.jpg
It's too bad that we don't really have a clear shot anywhere of the front 2 USB ports on the Xbox360. Those would go a long way toward determining the size.
Though you could use the USB ports on the front of the PS3 to figure it's size quite easily. (estimates based on this I have seen put it around 13.5 inches wide)
If you take the picture of the magazine sitting on top of the Xbox360 on anandtech.com , the size comes to just under 12 inches wide.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/tradeshows/2005/E3/day2/xbox360/magazine.jpg
So basically, it is just a bit smaller than the Xbox width wise and probably about an inch smaller height wise.
muchuukuri
05-25-2005, 00:01
Wha?? That's really the plug?? I always thought it was an intermeditary plug... till the final X2's go into production... bah, if that's the case... there's definately a problem. Thanks Siren.
Hmmmm... Ok, I don't own any GI so I don't know the dimensions... though from reading around it seems to be 11 inches by 9.25 inches... ... just eyeballing it I would say you're about right Siren 12inches for the console plus, meh, a .5 inches for the HDD. With about the exact same with as the magazine. We can assume they're also using Laptop HDDs... so 2.5 inches... or will it be larger because of the casing? Perhaps 3inches??
Ok so the dimesions as it sits are roughly (H) 3in x (W) 12in x (D) 9.25in
The PS2 dimensions are: (W) 12in x (H) 3.125in X (D) 7.25in
Now, how to extrapolate the PS3 dimensions... is the connector on the back of the X2 a d-sub?? Perhaps we coulkd use that a metre?? Blah, I can't really find anything to use... any suggestions, Siren?
For the PS3 I would work off the USB ports on the front.
Keep in mind when looking at the magazine on top, there is a little bit of a curve in the system, so that can offset it's appearence, but only by about 1/4th inch at most I would say.
Chaotic_King
05-25-2005, 04:08
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager...t=1&cId=3140209
Xbox:
3.5" x 10.25" x 12.75"
Xbox 360:
3.27" x 10.16" x 12.17"
I love the controller s, I just think that most gamers would like the dual shock considering there are 80 million ps2's sold!
But the dual shock was terrible for fps.It all breaks down to preference.
it was a rehash of the original stick.which was better than the dreamcast and the nintendo64(in my opinion) So after two generations I think people should be comfortable with it!This is m$ second run not third, ill bet it would be alot different if the xbox was around when the ps1 debuted! The world was hungry for a new console to battle the dreamcast just so happened the ps1 had kicked the sega saturns' @s# making sony appear better!But the exclusives will not be a factor this time m$ is throwing money left and right to win this battle and i think they will :D
kingarthurivvi
05-25-2005, 18:51
just me or is ps2 imposible to play a fps on and one of the main reasons i feal they were unpopular? those duel analogs felt like i was playin thumb wars with with a retard and looseing ! as for the new ps3 controler it looks like a faild boomerang.
You are a minority, this is not a guess on my part, but plain fact.
Go to TeamXbox, Xbox365, etc. etc. etc. A lot of Xbox owners like the controller, and A LOT of people love the 360 controller. I've yet to hear much of anything negative about it. If you own an X-Box, you are a minority, that's just a plain fact. Wow, X-Box fanboys on X-Box forums like the X-Box controller, who would of thunk it? There are still less then 1/4 X-Box's as PS2, so even if 100% of X-Box owners love the controller (which I know personally is false) they would still be a minority.
A) I don't know what you problem is with the design, looks alright to me, I don't like the spider man font, but that could change..
I just think it's a poor design compared to the other consoles. Very uninspired and, well, boring, awkward, etc. etc. etc. I can see it being boring as it does not have an lights like 360 or anything, so I agree with ya there. As far as awkward, both systems are awkward, and 360 taking the PS2 vertical stand really makes it awkward to fit into a normal system, honestly I can see my PS3 fitting in my lineup of systems very nicely, although I have seen the PS3 in person and know what size and looks like. So again I guess that is just a personal preferance.
B) They have dimensions out there, but I am fairly sure PS3 is larger then 360, now it is nowhere near the bulk and design of exisitng X-Box, but nothing really is. PS3 is same lenght as a DVD player, cable box, Reciever, ect,.. and is designed to sit in with those items on your tv stand..
If we go with the IGN dimensions, the PS3 is larger than the original Xbox. If we go with 1up's dimensions, the Xbox360 is basically the same size as the Xbox. If that's the case the PS3 is larger. DVD players, cable box's, reciever's, etc. etc. etc. are all different sizes. I will go look for "official" dimensions, but it does appear the PS3 is longer, and since it has a curve a little higher in middle.
C) I think you have just gone off deep end, if you think the 2-3X better everything is useless and power is anything near equal, that is just a uber-ignorant statement on your part. I know you cannot belive those are actual in game graphics you are seeing but they are, and yes they are that much better then 360. If you are happy with top quality this gen technologies stay with Microsoft and the 360, if you want to go next gen, get a PS3.
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You have got to be kidding me. The PS3 is not 2-3 times more powerful than the Xbox360. Depending on the GPU, the difference is marginal. (GPU wise, it's likely the Xenos is the better of the two. It is based off of the next next gen ATi GPU, unlike the RSX which is likely based off of the G70. Also, those specs shown at the conference are likely to decrease. Both Sony and nVidia are known to overhype their specs.) From what I hear, the PS3 is riddled with bottlenecks, main one being the bandwith. So even if the PS3 is more powerful, it won't be my much. The gap won't be Xbox/PS2 or even GCN/Xbox, it would be much closer.
I guess you are talking about overall system performance, in which you have no concrete way of making that argument as nobody knows all offical numbers for both systems. If you go from the offical numbers we know, you would know where I get that number from as many developers who have seen more details and worked with both developments systems have already stated the PS3 is far more powerful then the 360 and it ranges from 2-3x as much. I will believe developers working with both system then a X-Box fan forum poster like yourself.
What source have you heard PS3 riddled with bottlenecks? LMFAO, this is the most retarded thing I have heard, must of been from your fanboy box forums, so please do not quote them. Provide one independant source for anyone stating PS3 has an bottlneck please? I can provide sources from developers stating 360 has bottlenecks, some of which are directley related to your precious GPU, and the 10 eDram, as well as the proccessor and GPU sharing the rest 512 RAM...
Those are not in-game shots, you can't compare them to the Xbox360 games, because the Xbox360 games are actually up and running, and, they are on Alpha kits, which implies, the games are going to be much better looking when they get their hands on the final hardware.
Again you got a source for stating those are not in-game shots? Obviously not, just another uniformed, bias statement from X-Box forum fan. There are sources out there stating some of those shots are in game shots, as myself have talked with developers and sony stating specifically Tekken is in game shots.
The 360 is "suppose" to be farther ahead in development then PS3, hell Siren has stated they have had de kits for what 3 years now? PS3 kits have been in hands for couple months, so you are saying developers are able to create more finished games on PS3 dev kits in couple months, then couple years with 360? Yes those are aplha games, hell most every game at E3 are alpha or beta games, but graphics do not change drastically form alpha versions to beta or final versions, at that stage they are basically working on creating more models, more levels ect.. not improving graphics or adding more code for design, beta they would work bugs out.
Chaotic_King
05-26-2005, 03:38
If you own an X-Box, you are a minority, that's just a plain fact. Wow, X-Box fanboys on X-Box forums like the X-Box controller, who would of thunk it? There are still less then 1/4 X-Box's as PS2, so even if 100% of X-Box owners love the controller (which I know personally is false) they would still be a minority.
Which means...what? Lots of people like the Controller S, the next controller has been getting plenty of applause.
I can see it being boring as it does not have an lights like 360 or anything, so I agree with ya there. As far as awkward, both systems are awkward, and 360 taking the PS2 vertical stand really makes it awkward to fit into a normal system, honestly I can see my PS3 fitting in my lineup of systems very nicely, although I have seen the PS3 in person and know what size and looks like. So again I guess that is just a personal preferance.
It seems so. The Xbox360 to me, looks slim, and very sleek, something I would have expected from Sony or Apple. The PS3 on the other hand, is bulky and big, which was the last thing I was expecting from Sony. I personally would not have much of a problem if it wasn't for the convexness of it. That just annoys me because it makes it look big, bulky, and rather uninspiring. Hopefully there are some design tweaks to the console before release.
I will go look for "official" dimensions, but it does appear the PS3 is longer, and since it has a curve a little higher in middle.
I've found them for the Xbox360. It's a sliver smaller than the original Xbox. If the PS3 is bigger than that, that means it's even larger and bulkier than the original Xbox.
I guess you are talking about overall system performance, in which you have no concrete way of making that argument as nobody knows all offical numbers for both systems. If you go from the offical numbers we know, you would know where I get that number from as many developers who have seen more details and worked with both developments systems have already stated the PS3 is far more powerful then the 360 and it ranges from 2-3x as much. I will believe developers working with both system then a X-Box fan forum poster like yourself.
What source have you heard PS3 riddled with bottlenecks? LMFAO, this is the most retarded thing I have heard, must of been from your fanboy box forums, so please do not quote them. Provide one independant source for anyone stating PS3 has an bottlneck please? I can provide sources from developers stating 360 has bottlenecks, some of which are directley related to your precious GPU, and the 10 eDram, as well as the proccessor and GPU sharing the rest 512 RAM...
It could be that those developers are judging it depending on the dev kits, where the PS3's are much closer to the final system than the 360's are. But would these be the same devs telling you that everything shown at the Sony conference was real-time? :lol:
Riddled with bottlenecks was an exaggeration, but judging from the bandwith of the PS3, it certainly looks like that could be one. The Xenos, are you aware of the benefits of the 10 MB eDRAM? Are you aware of how revolutionary the GPU really is? Are you aware that the PS3s GPU is a modified nVidia GPU (likely G70)?
Again you got a source for stating those are not in-game shots? Obviously not, just another uniformed, bias statement from X-Box forum fan. There are sources out there stating some of those shots are in game shots, as myself have talked with developers and sony stating specifically Tekken is in game shots.
The 360 is "suppose" to be farther ahead in development then PS3, hell Siren has stated they have had de kits for what 3 years now? PS3 kits have been in hands for couple months, so you are saying developers are able to create more finished games on PS3 dev kits in couple months, then couple years with 360? Yes those are aplha games, hell most every game at E3 are alpha or beta games, but graphics do not change drastically form alpha versions to beta or final versions, at that stage they are basically working on creating more models, more levels ect.. not improving graphics or adding more code for design, beta they would work bugs out.
You know what? I'll save this thread in my sig. When Namco shows Tekken 6, and it looks nowhere as good as what was shown, I'll bring it up just for reference. If anybody actually believes that T6 will look anywhere as good as that.... :?
Those games shown are going to look much better than what was shown. My source? G4TV.com
muchuukuri
05-26-2005, 05:16
I would have to say that the X2 is nothing like what Sony or Apple would produce. Sony style is sleek symmetric clean lines and the front of the X2 has all these interupting lines that aren't at all symmetrical also Apple strive for the invisible and clean kind of thing (think mac-mini) ... if Apple had made it I'd wager you'd have trouble telling where the disk tray is ^^. Though the excessive vents remind me of the G5 cases. I have to say in retrospec though, the PS3 design is the last thing I'd expect out of Sony.
No offense Chao, but do YOU understand how advanced the GPU is? Or how much of a difference the 10MB of eDram makes? Do you know what the RSX is like? Are you aware that different isn't always better? Can you explain the bottlenecks? The point I'm trying to make is you're calling a piece of hardware inferior/superior before it even exists. There's A LOT we don't know about either hardware and running around saying that stuff isn't exactly the best thing to do IMHO.
Actually, after having watched the cinematech ep where they showed off the PS3 conference I'm back to believing those videos were indeed in game or at least fair representations of what they expect for in game (except for Tekken ;P ). Yeah yeah yeah, I know... but they seemed possible and you could actually notice a little aliasing here and there (except for Tekken ^^ I can not believe!!! I wanna though ^^) as well as other little things like characters popping up suddenly and so on. I dunno, somehow I think they're actually representative. :S
Motorstorm was released in Japan a few months ago, however the game is now set for a March 6th release in North America. And it will be a launch game for Europe.
As we already know, the North American and European version will include more modes including an online multiplayer. This will add a lot more depth to the gameplay.
About a month ago we posted the first ever online multiplayer images. Today Gametrailers.com posted the first ever motorstorm online gameplay video:
Put video here:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php? ... v&id=17029 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=17029)
Keep checking PSU.com for the latest Motorstorm news.
whoops, forgot to turn it to ready :P
Cool I will add this video to PSU.com before the article goes live.
I dl'd it but it was watermarked. :cry:
we can put the video as a youtube like style into the post right? :?
ps3 Wanna be
02-15-2007, 14:13
Not sure what Seb is doing with this, so I'll let him update you.
Im uploading it to youtube now.
I failed to upload this to youtube becuse my net kept cutting out. This can go live as is.
ps3 Wanna be
02-15-2007, 23:43
Ok it's live!