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narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:02
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
addition to the plan
esper256:
Sony develops a mod chip for the 360. They buy every release 360 for as long as MS is selling them at a loss.
It then installs the mod chip which disables the hypervisor and security. It then bundles a USB mouse and keyboard with the box and sells them as a $450 triple core computer that can run OS X or Linux or something.
This way Sony doesn't loses money, they can sell them immediately instead of having to stock pile them only as a delaying measure. People who buy them buy them because they are waaay better than a $400 Dell. They don't contain a Windows OS so MS doesn't make windows money off of them. People buying them as a computer don't give royalties to MS on the games. Because MS is selling the console at a loss per console, the more Sony buys and resells the more money MS loses.
adamevex
05-04-2006, 05:09
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console. what do you guys think of this?
Are you kidding? :shock: That's illegal!! :shock: MS would just own sony and the PS3 if they tried something like that. :lol:
But truthfully, sometimes i think about what it would be like if sony sent out mecenaries to blow up a shipment of 360s' like in a ship or something. :evil:
I need professional help... :no
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:11
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console. what do you guys think of this?
Are you kidding? :shock: That's illegal!! :shock: MS would just own sony and the PS3 if they tried something like that. :lol:
But truthfully, sometimes i think about what it would be like if sony sent out mecenaries to blow up a shipment of 360s' like in a ship or something. :evil:
I need professional help... :no
when did it become illegal to buy a product and sell it on ebay?
how would they own them, please elaborate?
Stuff like that probably does go on but not at that severity level
ShinMaruku
05-04-2006, 05:12
Trust me somebody is goin to brewka into Sony's warehouses and jack some PS3... It happned with PSPs....
Is this post meant to be serious?
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:15
Trust me somebody is goin to brewka into Sony's warehouses and jack some PS3... It happned with PSPs....
no one steals from King Sony, I hope they find the people who did that and the people who will "try" and do that with ps3 :x
i think this is a good plan of mine, it would sabatoge microsoft and gain King Sony leverage. its not against the law to buy up stuff in large quantaties and sell it on ebay, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing it
firerars:
yes it was meant to be serious, is that shocking?
ShinMaruku
05-04-2006, 05:18
I kid you not, these dude hit a warehouse and got some, considering they did it once, I'd expect them to try again.
why don't we just kill j. allard and the other dude while we at it.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:30
why don't we just kill j. allard and the other dude while we at it.
killing somebody is morally wrong and against the law, so we would all end up i jail. besides killing the top guys wouldnt solve anything, the next people in line would quickly step up. now buying out all their products would be definitely effectives
ShinMaruku
05-04-2006, 05:30
Nay, just liquidate the source.
what if we just blow up their production plants?
Trust me somebody is goin to brewka into Sony's warehouses and jack some PS3... It happned with PSPs....
Dont spoil our plans Shin!
I think your idea is kind of crazy :shock:
mrnagy88
05-04-2006, 05:32
very funny thread... should this go in the hall of shame? haha...
Are you serious about this, buying the 360's consoles to drive their price up, it would work, but you'd have to buy thousands and thousands, and they'd see them all going to YOUR house, it would be over very quickly haha.
We could all (every forum member) make a commitement to buy one 360, and sell it on E-bay with a 15% markup each, to help finance our PS3's... lol
ShinMaruku
05-04-2006, 05:35
Trust me somebody is goin to brewka into Sony's warehouses and jack some PS3... It happned with PSPs....
Dont spoil our plans Shin!
I think your idea is kind of crazy :shock:
It happned! Why can't you belive me?! :cry:
:lol:
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:35
what if we just blow up their production plants?
again illegal and we would go to jail (unless they or we covered our tracks pretty well :lol: ) I'm only trying to think of legal ways.
That would have lead to a massive public backlash, made Sony look bad, and generated enough news coverage it would be like free advertising for the XBox 360.
mrnagy88
05-04-2006, 05:40
Hey, if other companies can do it, why can't PS3FORUM's as a group? haha
But the question is, would it be worth your time? Does microsoft give a damn if their console price goes up? no it will only make them happier, especially if you buy all their inventory up...
Unless we start buying them, and stockpile a huge amount, Microsoft increases production capacity, and we stop buying, then they will have excess capacity, and have wasted money building plants / manufacturing contracts etc.
Personally I don't use E-bay to sell things, so nobody would trust me with my rating of 0.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:42
That would have lead to a massive public backlash, made Sony look bad, and generated enough news coverage it would be like free advertising for the XBox 360.
Yes I did consider this. Sony could have hired a third party to do this and kept everything under wraps. but like i said, if you think about it there is nothing wrong with doing it and there is no law against doing it.
hmm well a big buy out like that wouldnt allow them to keep it under wraps. well still alot of gamers just bought the 360 because it was first next gen system out, so they would eventually give in to getting the ps3
EDIT: mrnagy88, that whole ps3forum doing it as a group thing is a great idea. we should really do this. im sure out of the what thousands (im guessing) of members, somebody will be an ebay user
invisible_on_ice
05-04-2006, 05:46
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
Wow. :roll:
Kids. This is what happens when you are a fanboy who watches way too many movies and obviously never payed any attention in business 101.
Please go back to school. Life as a Sony fanboy isnt doing much for you.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 05:55
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
Wow. :roll:
Kids. This is what happens when you are a fanboy who watches way too many movies and obviously never payed any attention in business 101.
Please go back to school. Life as a Sony fanboy isnt doing much for you.
ooh throwing out the old fanboy card I see, not like I havent hear it a thousand times. If you don't have anything constructive to say or anything to add to my thread then please don't post, thanks.
fanboys don't give any other companies a chance besides the ones they are loyal to, I give each and every one a chance so i should not be considered a fanboy
A little off topic but I figure this thread isn't going any-where any-time soon any-ways: I was wondering where I could find list of the games to be expected for the PS3 at E3 like this one, http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1562/E3-2006-Game-List/p1/ but with PS3 games.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 06:30
A little off topic but I figure this thread isn't going any-where any-time soon any-ways: I was wondering where I could find list of the games to be expected for the PS3 at E3 like this one, http://features.teamxbox.com/xbox/1562/E3-2006-Game-List/p1/ but with PS3 games.
a little offtopic, totally derailing of my original topic. i dont know where to find one, try using a search engine and see what you find. i would like to see to if you find it :P
Perfect Sin
05-04-2006, 10:56
Wow, not only would Sony be sued for all the money they had, it would be one hell of a dumb idea. Sony is not licensed to retail Xbox360s and they would not want to.
You suggestion was anything but legal.
MasterThug
05-04-2006, 10:58
Trust me somebody is goin to brewka into Sony's warehouses and jack some PS3... It happned with PSPs....
well all i can say is, they still havent catched the guys who did it,
Goldfiinger
05-04-2006, 10:59
Ha sounds like something M$ would do.
Joke :wink:
KillerNapkin
05-04-2006, 15:12
I second the Hall of Shame nomination.
And, to explain to you how it is illegal, I'll be using the word "monopoly". "Monopoly" is when a business controls too much of it's industry. Think of it like the boardgame monopoly, owning ALL the properties is actually illegal. AT&T had to sell parts of itself due to the crazy law that is "monopoly". If Sony bought out Microsoft, they'd be owning too much of the industry. A business has to have competitors.
It would also be incredibly bad for their PR department. PR stands for public relations "We bought out Microsoft's stock of Xbox 360s because we felt the need too." It would be the PR equivalent of Kutaragi shooting his hunting partner.
Its also incredibly stupid. I mean, what the Hell?
I third the hall of shame nomination.
Why would you do this? The 360 games list might be crappy atm but there are games I am dying to play on 360.
You are a definition of a bad bad fanboy "king sony" lol.
WhatRuOn
05-04-2006, 15:19
Is this thread a joke? I sure hope it is...
It might not be a monopoly per se, but it would certainly break some anti-trust or anti-competitive law. competition is good. competition drives prices down and increases quality (wow it takes me a year of uni to understand tht...). and this is not counting the massive hit to public relations sony would take
The Chocobo Kid
05-04-2006, 15:47
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/fragend/confused-smiley-011.gifAre you for real. I mean we could do that are self and make some money. I would hope that sony would never fund M$ like that.
WhatRuOn
05-04-2006, 15:51
Wow, why hasn't this thread been locked yet? This belongs in the Hall of Shame.
King Sony?? I'm speechless....
right i nomenate this for the hall of shame.
first as people have said its illigal
2ed there just buyinh 360s and adding to microsofts market share
and its a stupid idea anyway n r u a sony fanboy you sound like you are
Alkemist
05-04-2006, 16:13
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
WAIT A TIC. THATS THE SMARTEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD ANYONE SAY ABOUT ANYTHING!
mrnagy88
05-04-2006, 16:22
ha ha ha ha ha (does that count as five words? lol)
I've seen worse than never made it to the hall of shame.
esper256
05-04-2006, 17:33
It's actually a good idea in pure economics. Selling anything at less than it's worth (not obeying simple supply and demand) is essentially creating a market inefficiency. When this inefficiency exists there becomes money to be made by making it efficient.
Of course the idea falls apart when you think of the external side effects of these actions. The USA is hugely anti-corporation, anti-profit, pro-regulation. Sony would be hit with the largest anti-trust lawsuit the world has ever seen. A huge part of the geek community is already anti sony because Sony BMG tried to copy protect their CDs ineptly.
From a free market standpoint there's nothing illegal about fixing MS market inefficiency.
What is the inefficiency you ask?
Imagine this: If Gasoline was sold at a loss, say $1.00 USD/gallon, there would be a market inefficiency. A guy with 3 hummers that he likes to joy ride around in, might drive them all to the local gas station to fill them up. So that later on in the week if he wants to go for a joy ride he can. Then the person who's on empty and needs to get to work shows up at the gas station to find: It's out of gas.
Essentially not obeying the law of supply and demand by selling at a loss delivers a product to the people who need it the least and leave people needing it the most without the ability to get it.
Same thing happens with 360. A person who doesn't really even like the 360 that much might buy it for $400, given that it goes on ebay for more, you can see there are serious fans that are dying to get their hands on it. So from a free market standpoint there's nothing wrong with Sony fixing this situation by scalping the 360s in order to make sure the people who need it the most get it. But they would be killed by consumer opinion.
But it's a brilliant idea. Sony would make money, and piss off 360 fans by making no cheap 360s on the market.. haha.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 17:52
right i nomenate this for the hall of shame.
first as people have said its illigal
2ed there just buyinh 360s and adding to microsofts market share
and its a stupid idea anyway n r u a sony fanboy you sound like you are
um first, its not illegal like i said to buy consoles in large quantaties and sell them on ebay.
you just can comprehend what im saying, lol. yes it will add to their market share but it will do much more harm then good because of the shortage of xbox 360. most people did by the 360 because it was the first one out the gate, so they would sorta be forced to by ps3 sense no more 360 would be out.
um no i dont consider myself a sony fanboy. like i said many times, fanboys are people who don't give other companies a chance....I do
Darrius Cole
05-04-2006, 17:55
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
This is a remarkably bad idea.
People who have been saying that this is illegal are missing the point. This is not something you would not do it even if it was legal. This would help Microsoft by increasing the demand for the Xbox 360. M$ would just keep making more and more 360s, and Sony would keep buying them until they could not afford to buy anymore. By that time the 360's manufacturing process would be going at full speed. M$ would then get to sell them to the public. The public would be ecstatic because they would have been watching 360's sell out for months and months resulting in the 360hype engine just getting more and more fuel. M$ would be touting number numbers like 8 or 9 million sold in the 1st quarter 2006. Furthermore the 360 would be getting more effort from developers as a result of more consoles sold and the of the rate at which the console is selling, all at Sony's expense.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 18:01
King Sony wouldn’t need to keep buying them, they would just need to buy that first shipment of Xbox 360’s. Also remember that they had a big shortage, so rolling out more 360’s if King Sony did this...
WhatRuOn
05-04-2006, 18:04
King Sony?? seriously why do you keep saying that... You claim your not a fanboy/troll...but then you keep digging yourself deeper with comments like that.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 18:07
King Sony?? seriously why do you keep saying that... You claim your not a fanboy/troll...but then you keep digging yourself deeper with comments like that.
I say King Sony because sony is the king of console makers. no i'm not a fanboy but that doesn't mean I can't prefer one console over another. I really don't care what anybody says on this forum, so.
back on topic:
this plan probably wouldnt put sony ahead but it would level the playing field
Nosferatu
05-04-2006, 19:20
sony should live up to how they said the Ps3 is going to be since how ive heard how they would wanna launch the console at a good price under 500 and in order to do that they probably changed up the specs so that itll still be a system thatll be equal to the competitors.
Blame, blame, hall of shame!...naw...but it's a very bad idea. Not a good idea to aim for the stupidity of the character in your icon n*****boy ;)
Darrius Cole
05-04-2006, 19:51
In order for your plan to work they would have to buy enough units to maintain the shortage until a specified date. In order to do that Sony would have to buy more than just the first shipment, Xbox...
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 20:04
Darrius cole:
I know the shortage is over but I’m no talking about what they should do now, I’m talking about what they should (past) have done. The Xbox 360 shortage lasted for a long time and I still don’t believe it’s been fully settled. They would not be throwing their money away because if they did this they could release the Playstation 3 which would technically be the only next gen console out making more people lean towards getting it. Not to mention the revenue they would make from selling the Xbox 360 at a ridiculous amount on eBay. If a big buyout like this takes place, of course the devs will find out about this and no whats going on. Microsoft to counter this may start producing console at a faster rate but that would result in sloppy work and a lot more defectives consoles.
Killernapkin:
I never said anything about buying out the Microsoft company, I said xbox 360’s and that’s all. It’s not illegal so I see no problem with it.
Azure:
The question is why would they do this? Not why would I. They would do this to gain leverage on Microsoft and “equal” the playing field
ludde:
hey naruto is cool
esper256
05-04-2006, 20:27
Darrius: This is incorrect.
For as long as demand outstrips supply while price remains fixed, Sony would actually make money doing this. Just like all the people ebaying consoles made money. This activity takes money away from xbox fans, whether or not this would really stop the xbox franchise is hard to say. It would certainly raise the price of the Xbox 360. It wouldn't help MS, because MS didn't decide to make 200,000 consoles instead of 1 million because they didn't think there was enough demand. But if Sony raised demand microsoft would increase production. This isn't the case, MS is producing as much as possible no matter what demand is.
Narutoboy, if I may, I'd like to add one tiny alteration to the plan.
Sony develops a mod chip for the 360. They buy every release 360 for as long as MS is selling them at a loss.
It then installs the mod chip which disables the hypervisor and security. It then bundles a USB mouse and keyboard with the box and sells them as a $450 triple core computer that can run OS X or Linux or something.
This way Sony doesn't loses money, they can sell them immediately instead of having to stock pile them only as a delaying measure. People who buy them buy them because they are waaay better than a $400 Dell. They don't contain a Windows OS so MS doesn't make windows money off of them. People buying them as a computer don't give royalties to MS on the games. Because MS is selling the console at a loss per console, the more Sony buys and resells the more money MS loses.
How's that?
this plan probably wouldnt put sony ahead but it would level the playing field
How would it level the playing field? It's already an uphill battle for MS...
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 20:32
esper256:
That’s a great idea esper. Your idea basically cuts out all ways they could lose money from doing something like that. Do you mind if I put that in my first post? I will list your name as the one who thought it up.
You are wrong about it being legal though. Microsoft would sue under RICO.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 20:35
You are wrong about it being legal though. Microsoft would sue under RICO.
can you please tell me what the heck is RICO :oops:
no one steals from King Sony, I hope they find the people who did that and the people who will "try" and do that with ps3 :x "King" Sony? Sony is simply an organizational entity... It's not even "alive". Why put them on such high pedestal?
Really, it's just a company that will inevitably go into decline and go bankrupt sooner or later. Or at the very least, be at the bottom of the food chain; like Sega.
I wouldn't worship a company no matter how well they may seem. Afterall, all companies are after your money :roll:.
Other than that... I think this whole thread is a joke... but carry on, I'd like to see where it ends :roll:.
esper256
05-04-2006, 20:39
esper256:
That’s a great idea esper. Your idea basically cuts out all ways they could lose money from doing something like that. Do you mind if I put that in my first post? I will list your name as the one who thought it up.
No problem go ahead!. I still secretly hope the 360 is cracked and can run OS X. I'd buy one.....
Wow, why hasn't this thread been locked yet? This belongs in the Hall of Shame.
King Sony?? I'm speechless.... I totally agree.... *sigh*.
Unfortunately, I don't think this is horrible enough to warrant a hall of shame; it's darn close, though.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 20:54
Wow, why hasn't this thread been locked yet? This belongs in the Hall of Shame.
King Sony?? I'm speechless.... I totally agree.... *sigh*.
Unfortunately, I don't think this is horrible enough to warrant a hall of shame; it's darn close, though.
i dont think it warrants a lock or hall of shame, i had a legitimit idea and a legitiment convo. like i said before its obvious that i was serious and wasnt spamming because of the quality im putting in my posts.
and ive stayed on topic for the most part even though all the other comments that have nothing to do with the thread. you can consider this thread discussing marketing strategies and ways to overcome the competition
WhatRuOn
05-04-2006, 20:59
I'd like to see where it ends :roll:.
The madness will never stop....
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 21:03
no one steals from King Sony, I hope they find the people who did that and the people who will "try" and do that with ps3 :x "King" Sony? Sony is simply an organizational entity... It's not even "alive". Why put them on such high pedestal?
Really, it's just a company that will inevitably go into decline and go bankrupt sooner or later. Or at the very least, be at the bottom of the food chain; like Sega.
I wouldn't worship a company no matter how well they may seem. Afterall, all companies are after your money :roll:.
Other than that... I think this whole thread is a joke... but carry on, I'd like to see where it ends :roll:.
sega was never the same mega giant as sony, maybe a little close. i cant believe you said they will go bankrupt sooner or later, nintendo has been around since the 1800's and sony makes a heck alot more money so i think they will be around forever. i wouldnt say worship because worshipping other things is against my you know what, im just devoted to them.
1800's? Really... TV didn't even exist back then... Without a TV, what would Nintendo make? Hahaha :lol:.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 21:09
1800's? Really... TV didn't even exist back then... Without a TV, what would Nintendo make? Hahaha :lol:.
nintendo was in the toy making business. they made cards and other junk like that...............love hotels to :|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo
True enough. I looked up on Wikipedia and they were founded in 1889 :shock:. I never knew Nintendo was that old.
this should of been locked long ago dont this deserve a HoS place its gotta its a little bit funny and just so darn pointless
MATRIX 2
05-04-2006, 22:33
I seventh (or whatever) that this thread should be moved to the Hall of shame.
NARUTOBOY you need help.
Seriously, you have to be pretty fucked up to think of an idea like that, and make a thread about it.
Also why isn't this locked yet.
Oh and king sony, what are you, worshiping them. :lol:
BMT-216A
05-04-2006, 22:39
Eight or whatever. Narutoboy you can't be serious.
And BTW, by King Sony he means market share. I think. So it makes sense.
Someone lock this up. It's going nowhere.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 22:44
this should of been locked long ago dont this deserve a HoS place its gotta its a little bit funny and just so darn pointless
will you stop spamming my thread about how it should be locked. if you're going to post in it please contribute or make it relavent.
i really think i'm going to organize a group to carry this plan out
matrix 2:
whats wrong with the idea, i think it's pretty ingenious. you know what i mean by king sony, kings are the top dogs and so is sony.............king sony.
RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
Basically, Microsoft would, (most likely successfully), argue that Sony was criminally and systematically extorting their customers to suppress their competitor.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 22:50
RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
Basically, Microsoft would, (most likely successfully), argue that Sony was criminally and systematically extorting their customers to suppress their competitor.
nope microsoft would quickly lose. extortion is where you threaten somebody with physical harm or other means. in what way would sony be extorting customers?
MATRIX 2
05-04-2006, 22:58
Well then according to you, narutoboy, I should be calling microsoft King Microsoft, because it is king in the OS world, right?
And I should call Bill gates King Gates, because he is the biggest philanthropist.
narutoboy
05-04-2006, 23:04
Well then according to you, narutoboy, I should be calling microsoft King Microsoft, because it is king in the OS world, right?
And I should call Bill gates King Gates, because he is the biggest philanthropist.
If thats your purgative then please go ahead.
why does everyone want to steer away from the orginal topic......*getting back on teh topic*
I was thinking, If they did this to nintendo man that would be mega impact on them. They are better/much weaker (money wise folks) target to do this against. i think sony should hire me to give them advice, i could make them even more money then they have.
You know what I would do if I were in Bill Gates or Sony's position and status? Since I am a billionair in that case, and like video games, I would literally dump a lot of my own money into my console to make sure it is not only top notch, it sacrifices absolutley nothing! it wouldn't matter how much money the console would lose (being so incredibly expensive to produce, yet so cheap to sell, in my case I would make it $300), because my billions would make up for the loss deficit.
Anyway, I would make sure it was on 65nm process right from the beggining, not only that...it would have a 4 core next-gen (not quite released yet) AMD processor with absolutely no cut out of instructions or hardware, and a total of 64mb of L2 cache. Two dedicated Ageia physics processors, each with their own imbedded 100mb of ram (2 teribytes bandwidth). In fact...all of the system memory would be of the dram imbedded type, with minimum, literally 500gbyt/per sec of bandwidth. Including, a sound processor with it's own 64mbs of imbedded ram that is over twice as powerful as the most advanced sound processor in existence today. In addition, it would have 4 ati (optimized for console like xenon) unified shader cards, each clocked at 650mhz core, and each having 100 shader pipelines. Integrated as well, 256mb of imbedded ram dedicated to 32x full-scene anti-aliasing, 128x anistropic filtering, frame buffering/shadowing. It would have 8GB's of system ram@500gb bandwidth, (little to no load times in games) a teribyte hardrive and two media drives (separate because of copyrights), HD-DVD and Blue-Ray. It would be water cooled (no fan=no fan noise) and though as a consequence of so much hardware, it would be rather large, the 65nm would help keep the size down, but asap I would take it down to 10 nm. Bill gates (me) is worth over a 100 billion dollars in personal assests, I think he (I) could handle it.
Sony is expected to sell it's console for half the cost it takes to produce and therefore plans on losing about 4 billion dollars in the next couple of years. My console would sell for over a 15th of the price it costs to produce, so my company would lose in the ten's of billions (but I expect such a console would sell as effortlessly as toilet paper). But thats ok, because with my wants and needs, I think 50 billion dollars in personal cash would last me a lifetime...Oh bliss, imagine what one could do with such horsepower :!: :shock: :D most of all physics taken care of by the physics processors, then sound is done by its powerful dedicated processor. That leaves us with the 4 ludicrously powerful AMD processor's for game mechanics, some post processing, compression, maybe some light graphics, some reserve for extra physics beyond the two physics processors...but most emphasis and processing cycles will be dedicated to A.I. and the simulation of complex character and crowd interaction. :lol: OH BLISS AND HEAVEN IMAGINE THE REALITY OF VISUALS YOU COULD MANIFEST ON A SYSTEM OF SUCH POWER-A SYSTEM WITH...
DRUMROLL... 20 TERAFLOPS OF PROCESSING POWER :!:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
mrnagy88
05-04-2006, 23:39
Wow, that post was even funnier than the original post on this thread! Good job!
KillerNapkin
05-04-2006, 23:52
Gah, Narutoboy, this is pathetic. The fact you are serious about this highly warrants a HoS move. You don't get that competition is healthy, and excessive stupidity is not.
Lets put it this way. Why do you think the Atari was such a terrible system? Because there was NO major competition at the time. In this case, Sony could half ass all of their products, and you would still buy them if you wanted any games at all. Also, this would not level the playing field. Sony would create a monopoly. I already explained what that was in an earlier post.
Sony should not hire you. I doubt you've past puberty yet, considering the "plan" you've created. If Sony puts out a good console and good games then they should have nothing to worry about.
Well, he obviously seems to be aiming for Narutos level of intelligence since he's still claiming it's a viable idea :lol:
SpaceMonkeyDave
05-05-2006, 00:20
Well then according to you, narutoboy, I should be calling microsoft King Microsoft, because it is king in the OS world, right?
And I should call Bill gates King Gates, because he is the biggest philanthropist.
If thats your purgative then please go ahead.
why does everyone want to steer away from the orginal topic......*getting back on teh topic*
I was thinking, If they did this to nintendo man that would be mega impact on them. They are better/much weaker (money wise folks) target to do this against. i think sony should hire me to give them advice, i could make them even more money then they have.
narutoboy, tell me now and be honest and no porkies...
have you been taking granpa's skunk again? :lol:
jk
nope microsoft would quickly lose. extortion is where you threaten somebody with physical harm or other means. in what way would sony be extorting customers?
No, extortion is where you use an artificial position of power to muscle out someone from a position which they had inequal access to then require them to compensate you to return equal access. Sony would be messing with the public's equal access, and they would be compensated for the return of that access, thus, extortion.
It's the stupidest idea I've heard in a long time.
Everybody knows there was a huge shortage of xbox 360's. Well I was thinking that instead of just sitting back, Sony should have took the oppurtunity to buy every single xbox 360 console (they have the money). They could have turned around and sort like held them "hostage" and sold them at a much bigger price amount on ebay, forcing people to wait/get a playstation 3 console and it would also drive the 360 price up. what do you guys think of this?
addition to the plan
I was thinking, If they did this to nintendo man that would be mega impact on them. They are better/much weaker (money wise folks) target to do this against. i think sony should hire me to give them advice, i could make them even more money then they have.
And how exactly would this hurt Microsoft or Nintedo? Since Sony would be buying the consoles, Microsoft or Nintendo would still get their money. Also MS could do the exact same thing to Sony, since it has alot more cash than Sony, it would be able to buy up alot more consoles than Sony.
esper256
05-05-2006, 04:36
And how exactly would this hurt Microsoft or Nintedo? Since Sony would be buying the consoles, Microsoft or Nintendo would still get their money. Also MS could do the exact same thing to Sony, since it has alot more cash than Sony, it would be able to buy up alot more consoles than Sony.
Uhm because MS loses money on every console sold. Is that hard to understand? MS loses less money if they sell one 360 than if they sell 10 million. 10 million times less money to be exact.
They sell at a loss hoping everyone buys enough games that they make up the loss on royalties. This plus in a few years they might be able to manufacture the 360 cheaper than they do now and actually sell it at a profit.
Obviously once the 360 is worth more than it sells for Sony wouldn't want to do this..
This is a crazy idea not because the economics aren't sound, but because the government would have an anti-trust suit against you in a second. The economics are sound. PERIOD. If you wanted to dick over Sony you could form a company who's mission statement is to "buy products that are in limited supply on the market and sold at less than market value and resell them on ebay". Then you could do the same to Sony because I imagine there will be a shortage and there will be people pawning them off on ebay for more than they sell for in stores.
Besides the obvious ani-trust suits, public ridicule, and back breaking fines Sony would receive for doing such a dumb thing, I have to ask other questions
Whats wrong with MS or XBox 360 ? Its a fun machine, having a blast with Oblivion, Burnout, PGR3, and Call of Duty 2
Why would we want to do this to the only competition Sony has. If it wasn't for MS we can all be assured that the PS3 Sony is trying to launch would be a heluva alot less powerful. Heck Sony would only have to compete against is Nintendo and they just don't have the means to push Sony.
MS is what is pushing the industry ahead. There presence makes Sony have to be that much better. MS is very good for th econsole industry, no one else has the money or the willingness to go up against Sony. MS keeps Sony honest.
esper256
05-05-2006, 08:29
Besides the obvious ani-trust suits, public ridicule, and back breaking fines Sony would receive for doing such a dumb thing, I have to ask other questions
Whats wrong with MS or XBox 360 ? Its a fun machine, having a blast with Oblivion, Burnout, PGR3, and Call of Duty 2
Why would we want to do this to the only competition Sony has. If it wasn't for MS we can all be assured that the PS3 Sony is trying to launch would be a heluva alot less powerful. Heck Sony would only have to compete against is Nintendo and they just don't have the means to push Sony.
MS is what is pushing the industry ahead. There presence makes Sony have to be that much better. MS is very good for th econsole industry, no one else has the money or the willingness to go up against Sony. MS keeps Sony honest.
I couldn't agree more. In fact I said something to this effect in a thread that was immediately locked because it was supposed to go into the PS3 vs 360 vs Wii thread instead.
I can't speak for anybody else, but I would never advocate anybody doing something like this.. but I do enjoy imagining the consequences and how things could play out. It's kind of like imagining what would happen if you got a flesh eating disease is different than hoping you actually get one. Although a lot of people I've met often confuse the two.
WhatRuOn
05-05-2006, 15:36
Are you fucking kidding me....3 pages!? Please people if it's not going to get locked just stop fueling it...we can all agree that this thread is just as dumb as the child labor thread. So please just let it fall of the front page.
This "discussion" is going nowhere.
And Hall of Shame nominations go here : http://www.ps3forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=14157
Not in the thread.
safdarkazmi
01-30-2010, 22:49
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