View Full Version : Anti-Abortion nurse removes a womans IUD without her permission
ALBUQUERQUE (CN) - A clinic nurse first removed her intrauterine birth-control device without permission, says the patient in a federal action, then told her that "having the IUD come out was a good thing," because "I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don't know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them."
The patient sued Presbyterian Health Services Rio Rancho Family Health Center and nurse practitioner Sylvia Olona in Federal Court.
The plaintiff says she went to Rio Rancho to have the strings on her IUD shortened.
The complaint states: "As soon as Defendant Olona began speaking to (the plaintiff), she questioned her about her choice of contraception.
"As Defendant Olona began the procedure, (the plaintiff) felt Olona pull on the strings of the IUD. (The plaintiff) felt a distinct pulling on the strings followed by a sharp pain in her uterus similar to a very strong menstrual cramp.
"As that happened, Defendant Olona stated, 'Uh oh, I accidentally pulled out your IUD. I gently tugged and out it came.' She then explained, 'I cut the string than went back and gently pulled and out it came. It must have not been in properly.'
"Olona then stated, 'having the IUD come out was a good thing.' She asked (the plaintiff) if she wanted to hear her 'take' on the situation. Without receiving a response, Defendant Olona stated, 'I personally do not like IUDs. I feel they are a type of abortion. I don't know how you feel about abortion, but I am against them. What the IUD does is take the fertilized egg and pushes it out of the uterus.'
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/01/14/Woman_Says_Anti-Abortion_Nurse_Removed_IUD_Without_Permission_Then _Lectured_Her.htm
Can you spell lawsuit?
How is preventing the creation of a baby in any way close to an abortion? This women may as well burn every condom in the country.
How is preventing the birth of a baby in any way close to an abortion? This women is crazy.
Well an IUD can force out the egg if it's been fertilized. So bat-**** fundies who believe that life starts at conception equate that with murder.
deepdown
01-21-2009, 02:04
From her perspective, it is abortion. Many people believe that life begins at conception. Conception is when the sperm fertilizes the egg. It does not prevent the fertilization. Other types of birth control prevent fertilization.
Personally I am anti-abortion, I believe it is murder. However, it is legal in this country and what this nurse did is wrong. She should lose her license to practice. I do not believe that this hospital should be forced to pay tons of money to the victim.
Also to the people who just flat out say that this person is nuts, try looking at things from her prespective.
Also to the people who just flat out say that this person is nuts, try looking at things from her prespective.
She is nuts.
From anyones perspective their actions make sense to them. doesn't make them any less insane and/or ignorant.
DayWalker
01-21-2009, 02:16
that's disturbing...
she should be fired.
deepdown
01-21-2009, 02:22
To Rapture,
The issue to her was not the actual prevention of the pregnancy, but that the IUD can flush out the egg after it was fertilized. Condoms, pills, spermicide, and sponges prevent the fertilzation. To the nurse this is abortion as she believes that life begins at conception. This means that the fertilized egg is not a fertilized egg, it is a baby, same with a fetus, it is a baby not a fetus.
Ah crap. Another nurse making the rest of us look bad >.<
To Rapture,
The issue to her was not the actual prevention of the pregnancy, but that the IUD can flush out the egg after it was fertilized. Condoms, pills, spermicide, and sponges prevent the fertilzation. To the nurse this is abortion as she believes that life begins at conception. This means that the fertilized egg is not a fertilized egg, it is a baby, same with a fetus, it is a baby not a fetus.
Which is why she needs to have her license revoked.
this is modern medicine. Religious views have no place in it, let alone to be forced on patients.
Guamdude 671
01-21-2009, 02:30
She has no right to do that to the women. Even if she is against abortion. That nurse should be fired and sued by the women.
deepdown
01-21-2009, 02:33
If you read my post I did say she needs her license revoked. But, I also seek to understand why people do what they do, not just jump to a rash judgement and call everyone nuts who does not agree with me.
I do agree with her beliefs, but not her actions. I also do not force my beliefs on others, but if asked I am not ashamed to share them.
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To Rapture,
The issue to her was not the actual prevention of the pregnancy, but that the IUD can flush out the egg after it was fertilized. Condoms, pills, spermicide, and sponges prevent the fertilzation. To the nurse this is abortion as she believes that life begins at conception. This means that the fertilized egg is not a fertilized egg, it is a baby, same with a fetus, it is a baby not a fetus.
I know, now at least. I didn't know what a IUD did and I admit I spoke out of line.
Nevertheless, she still should not have done that.
Wow, I would sue her. She has NO RIGHT to do that. She is mental if she thinks she can do that.
Idiot. Hope she looses her job and a lot of money in damages.
There was a lady in Sydney before Christmas who had to have a miscarriage in the toilets of the hospital because no one would help her, despite having the babies leg hanging out the nurses and doctors told her to wait as there is nothing they can do. She had to wait in the waiting room. She eventually went to the toilet where she miscarried.
What was the hospitals counsellors comforting words to her? "Lifes a *********h"
WTF is happening to the world?
DayWalker
01-21-2009, 03:04
If you read my post I did say she needs her license revoked. But, I also seek to understand why people do what they do, not just jump to a rash judgement and call everyone nuts who does not agree with me.
I do agree with her beliefs, but not her actions. I also do not force my beliefs on others, but if asked I am not ashamed to share them.
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nobody is saying she's nuts for being pro-life...
she's nuts b/c of her actions.
deepdown
01-21-2009, 03:10
Kop, <br />
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The same thing that has been happening to the world as has been happening since people were around. <br />
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However if there are money damages they should not come from the hospital. I am...
While it's true that an IUD can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting, the majority of fertilized eggs wouldn't implant anyway -- and I don't see any of these people trying to do something about that.
It is the nature of our reproductive system that the majority of fertilized eggs never even come close to forming babies, even in the absence of any kind of intentional intervention by humans. Most eggs aren't viable, or aren't lucky -- and to be honest, we just don't know which.
Your avatar is haunting. <br />
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No I agree, I don't think money should be paid out by the hospital. But at the end of the day we all know what she is going to sue for, and I think it should be the nurse...
deepdown
01-21-2009, 03:52
Kop,
Thanks for the compliment.
I'm a SCUBA instructor, seemed appropriate.
Yours is cool too.
Is there anyone who is anti-abortion that isn't religious?
Kop,
Thanks for the compliment.
I'm a SCUBA instructor, seemed appropriate.
Yours is cool too.
Noice. My dad is hard out diver. Has done it for years, use to do it for a living on oil rigs. Got some pretty good shark and whale stories too.
Is there anyone who is anti-abortion that isn't religious?
Yeah, there's at least a few. Many non-religious people feel very strongly about "human life", and may not feel that there's that much of a distinction between more-formed humans and less-formed humans.
Me, I'm religious, I dislike abortion, and I am absolutely in favor of it being legal and safe to get... It seems to me that if people really want to do something about abortion, the place to start would be ensuring that pregnant women NEVER, EVER, have to pay a dime out of pocket for prenatal and delivery medical care. I've known people whose choices were an abortion or being out on the street starving... I can regret loss of life without believing it's everyone's duty to commit suicide for my ideals.
Scotracer
01-21-2009, 15:55
I fail to see how destroying a fertilised egg (which is no more complex than the sum of its parts) is any different to those who promote condoms or pulling out?
Sperm & eggs die - THAT'S NATURE! A fertilised egg is no more a person than a bacteria is.
HellsJester
01-21-2009, 16:05
Having religious views is fine, you can believe whatever you want but to force your views in any way upon someone else is wrong even if the religious view was proven to be right it still doesnt give you the right to do that.
To Rapture,
The issue to her was not the actual prevention of the pregnancy, but that the IUD can flush out the egg after it was fertilized. Condoms, pills, spermicide, and sponges prevent the fertilzation. To the nurse this is abortion as she believes that life begins at conception. This means that the fertilized egg is not a fertilized egg, it is a baby, same with a fetus, it is a baby not a fetus.
the pill also prevents an egg from implanting in the uterus lining.
this nurse is an idiot, and she should be shot in the head.
My wife has an IUD.
It's cool.