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cupra777
03-31-2009, 20:30
sorry i had to bring this up
but i thought i should say that 2 weeks ago now i quit smokin
started when i was 12 & did it for 4 years
i stopped 4 me & my gf
anyone else like me & quit recently?
Congrats man stay with it! :)
I smoked from 14 to 29... I've been clean since last Jan 7, 2008. I did it for my son. I didn't want him growing up seeing me smoking, thus starting himself.
pinkflamingoes
03-31-2009, 21:09
Yeah this must be really hard to do, your really great for doing it! and especially at such a young age, most young people would be like oh i dont give a ****.
But yeah keep at it!
:D
cupra777
03-31-2009, 21:10
Congrats man stay with it! :)
I smoked from 14 to 29... I've been clean since last Jan 7, 2008. I did it for my son. I didn't want him growing up seeing me smoking, thus starting himself.
cheres dude, congrats 2 u 2
gd farther figure u are, i didnt realy have 1, & still dont :(
SonyJunkie
03-31-2009, 21:16
I have quite smoking for about 2 years. I would love to keep smoking. It has only affected my life positively except me developing an anxiety disorder. It sucks and I would love to smoke again.
Besides all that, congrats on quitting. Quitting without a physical reason is an accomplishment. If I didn't have my problem, I would have never quit and would have never had a reason to quit.
2 years of not smoking and I still miss it so much. :cry:
SharkOutofWater
03-31-2009, 21:22
Congrats to quitting, I have heard how hard it is.
It is a huge turn off to me seeing a guy/girl smoking.
LibertyCap89
03-31-2009, 21:25
Congrats on giving up and hope it goes well. I myself have never had a smoking addiction, I've grown up watching my Mum smoke though and my Brother I guess. It's disgusting to be around or smell and you should consider yourself a good person for giving up for both yourself and someone else. I've seen so many bad outcomes from the habit and not a single thing good.
I do however as one or two people might know, smoke weed. I hope that somehow, some way, this is actually worth reading. (But even then I try to use a bong as much as I can, to filter out the bad toxins and never use tobacco.)
Good luck.
:heart:
I have quite smoking for about 2 years. I would love to keep smoking. It has only affected my life positively except me developing an anxiety disorder. It sucks and I would love to smoke again.
Don't want to sound rude but in what way did smoking help you out?
1. It makes you stink
2. It's bad for your health
3. It's bad for other peoples health
4. It stinks up your house/car
5. It can put people off
Those are a few of the disadvantages. I don't smoke and don't intend on doing so.
Well done to those who have quit or are quiting!
SharkOutofWater
03-31-2009, 21:49
Don't want to sound rude but in what way did smoking help you out?
1. It makes you stink
2. It's bad for your health
3. It's bad for other peoples health
4. It stinks up your house/car
5. It can put people off
Those are a few of the disadvantages. I don't smoke and don't intend on doing so.
Well done to those who have quit or are quiting!
When people are addicted to smoking, having a smoke "relieves their stress". Is why when stuff goes bad, you always hear people go "I am going out for a smoke". It has a calming effect to people, and thus people tend to enjoy it.
Mind you, this is coming from a non smoker, who detests the smell and everything about it, but just trying to explain..
SonyJunkie
03-31-2009, 22:19
I think I am a dumbass. I thought he was talking about marijuana, not cigarettes.
Damn, am I stupid or what. I don't smoke cigarettes and never plan on it.
Smoked for about a year, quit when I got really ill. I've got enough problems going on in my body, a certainly don't need to add any.
Only reason I started is because I did a lot of partying those days and almost everyone I knew would be smoking throughout the night or after hitting a joint/blunt/bong. I enjoyed it I guess. It was something to do, something to play with in my hands, an excuse to get out of a noisy party and chat it up with some friends. Ultimately not worth it.
VintageElise
03-31-2009, 22:31
Does that mean I am technically the youngest person here who smokes?
congrats on giving up. I myself have never tried it and will never try it. And those who here have quite as well congrats
cupra777
03-31-2009, 22:38
When people are addicted to smoking, having a smoke "relieves their stress". Is why when stuff goes bad, you always hear people go "I am going out for a smoke". It has a calming effect to people, and thus people tend to enjoy it.
Mind you, this is coming from a non smoker, who detests the smell and everything about it, but just trying to explain..
thing is dude the person who put around 5 disadvantages might be a non-smoker but is stating the truth, i found i relived stress off me
& when i used to go out 4 a fag, i used to say im going out for some fresh air lol
thank you to everyone who has supported me so far & people who have posted as well
SharkOutofWater
03-31-2009, 22:50
thing is dude the person who put around 5 disadvantages might be a non-smoker but is stating the truth, i found i relived stress off me
& when i used to go out 4 a fag, i used to say im going out for some fresh air lol
thank you to everyone who has supported me so far & people who have posted as well
I am going to go with what is in your sig, and just assume you didnt quite understand what I said... I am not sure, but I believe we are saying the same thing :p
It doesnt matter anyways, congrats and all that fun stuff...
Sharky, you're right. That's the only 'advantage'. If you keep it at, you are soon addicted and do it so that you feel normal. The stress relieving aspect wears out I believe. It's just that SonyJunkie made it sound that smoking (cigs) had a lot of benefits.
Oh well. Smoking isn't good for you. End of story. If you started smoking after the dangers were found out then I have no sympathy for you. If you started smoking from the years before all the research was done, then I feel sorry for you.
I hate to say it, but there is some evidence of nicotine being able to usefully help treat some symptoms of ADHD. That's the sum total of benefits, and it can be obtained just as easily from nicotine obtained through other sources, and there are much better meds.
For the most part, it just makes you sickly, makes you smell bad, and eventually kills you.
SonyJunkie
03-31-2009, 23:02
Sharky, you're right. That's the only 'advantage'. If you keep it at, you are soon addicted and do it so that you feel normal. The stress relieving aspect wears out I believe. It's just that SonyJunkie made it sound that smoking (cigs) had a lot of benefits.
Oh well. Smoking isn't good for you. End of story. If you started smoking after the dangers were found out then I have no sympathy for you. If you started smoking from the years before all the research was done, then I feel sorry for you.
If you read my next post, I made a mistake. I don't smoke cigs and never will, it is pointless and disgusting. I thought we were talking about weed and that is a wholenother story.
.:XterminatoR:.
03-31-2009, 23:04
Don't want to sound rude but in what way did smoking help you out?
1. It makes you stink
2. It's bad for your health
3. It's bad for other peoples health
4. It stinks up your house/car
5. It can put people off
Those are a few of the disadvantages. I don't smoke and don't intend on doing so.
Well done to those who have quit or are quiting!
I dont know y anyone would smoke its just disgusting.
and I agree with those.
Not to mention...6. DEATH
richie217
03-31-2009, 23:11
When people are addicted to smoking, having a smoke "relieves their stress". Is why when stuff goes bad, you always hear people go "I am going out for a smoke". It has a calming effect to people, and thus people tend to enjoy it.
Mind you, this is coming from a non smoker, who detests the smell and everything about it, but just trying to explain..
Correct. Smoking attacks you central nervous system (I think), thus having a calming affect. I also enjoy the taste of cigarretes.
OP congrats on giving up. I intend to stop at some stage, just enjoy it too much at present.
If you read my next post, I made a mistake. I don't smoke cigs and never will, it is pointless and disgusting. I thought we were talking about weed and that is a wholenother story.
I know you don't :lol:
That's why I put cigs in brackets. So that it doesn't get muddled up with marijuana.
A7X_Elite_6661
03-31-2009, 23:17
I gave it up last week. Good deal man.
L3G1TL3FTY
03-31-2009, 23:21
I think I am a dumbass. I thought he was talking about marijuana, not cigarettes.
Damn, am I stupid or what. I don't smoke cigarettes and never plan on it.
I thought the same thing
Smoking cigs is the dumbest thing ever
But weed is ok with me
LibertyCap89
03-31-2009, 23:39
I don't even think smoking is that stress relieving to be honest, in comparison to the effect it has on your health it's a pretty poor excuse to smoke.
Umm, people that I would have flicked my butt at in the past if they were preaching next to me.
This is a positive smoking thread, about people quitting, try to focus on it... the positive.
richie217
04-01-2009, 00:05
I thought the same thing
Smoking cigs is the dumbest thing ever
But weed is ok with me
You do realise that smoking weed still has negative effects on your body don't you? You are still taking smoke into your lungs. Not to mention the pshycological effects it can have on you. Never heard of a case of drug induced pshyocosis from nicotine.
It is my choice whether or not I smoke. I didn't start smoking due to peer pressure and I'll be ****ed if I'm going to stop because of it. Yes I'm aware it had negative effects on my health. So does drinking alcohol yet people don't jump up and down for me to stop that do they.
I respect that people may not like the smell or want to be inhaling my passive smoke, and I do not smoke around them and try my best to mask the smell.
.:XterminatoR:.
04-01-2009, 00:10
Cigaretts r not as bad as alcohol. Thats what I heard.
Rhysivich
04-01-2009, 00:15
Oh well. Smoking isn't good for you. End of story. If you started smoking after the dangers were found out then I have no sympathy for you. If you started smoking from the years before all the research was done, then I feel sorry for you.
Have a little sympathy. It's an extremely addictive drug that you can get into for all sorts of reasons even if you know the risks. It's a rat trap of sorts, you can get in easy, but getting back out again is a whole lot harder. I personally don't smoke, but I'm an extremely open-minded fellow and I can see the appeal, especially after a drink or two.
For everyone in the process of giving up, and to those who have given up, well done and I hope you reap the many rewards of a cigarette-free life.
LibertyCap89
04-01-2009, 00:25
You do realise that smoking weed still has negative effects on your body don't you? You are still taking smoke into your lungs. Not to mention the pshycological effects it can have on you. Never heard of a case of drug induced pshyocosis from nicotine.
It is my choice whether or not I smoke. I didn't start smoking due to peer pressure and I'll be ****ed if I'm going to stop because of it. Yes I'm aware it had negative effects on my health. So does drinking alcohol yet people don't jump up and down for me to stop that do they.
I respect that people may not like the smell or want to be inhaling my passive smoke, and I do not smoke around them and try my best to mask the smell.
Your average weed smoker doesn't chain smoke weed otherwise they wouldn't make it through the day, weed doesn't have to be smoked, and there's methods to reduce bad toxins e.g. bong/vaporiser. It's not addictive, it doesn't clog up arteries with dirty tar/fat stuff, it doesn't turn your teeth a horrible colour and it doesn't stain your nice house walls, it doesn't clog up your skin pours either. It doesn't cost as much, it can be considered beneficial to certain illnesses, it can relieve pain, it can help people with an unhealthy appetite eat more, it can enhance experiences... nicotine can... relieve stress?
The negative effects weed has on your health is tiny in comparison to nicotine. I would much rather a relaxing joint once a week instead of a constant need to relieve stress throughout the day, if you don't understand the speed at which nicotine kills you compared to marijuana (which doesn't exactly shorten lifespan anyway) then I'd have reason to believe you are insane.
i quit smoking on january 29,2009 havent smoked since
Seahawkk
04-01-2009, 01:08
I've never been ignorant enough to start. My dad smokes and i think it is such a waste of money. Smoking helps you in no way whatsoever it just makes you smell and die. And dont even try and argue that it relieves stress IT CAUSES STRESS when your not smoking so when you smoke it relieves the stress it causes. Not to mention i can think of another FREE way to relieve stress...
richie217
04-01-2009, 01:36
Your average weed smoker doesn't chain smoke weed otherwise they wouldn't make it through the day, weed doesn't have to be smoked, and there's methods to reduce bad toxins e.g. bong/vaporiser. It's not addictive, it doesn't clog up arteries with dirty tar/fat stuff, it doesn't turn your teeth a horrible colour and it doesn't stain your nice house walls, it doesn't clog up your skin pours either. It doesn't cost as much, it can be considered beneficial to certain illnesses, it can relieve pain, it can help people with an unhealthy appetite eat more, it can enhance experiences... nicotine can... relieve stress?
The negative effects weed has on your health is tiny in comparison to nicotine. I would much rather a relaxing joint once a week instead of a constant need to relieve stress throughout the day, if you don't understand the speed at which nicotine kills you compared to marijuana (which doesn't exactly shorten lifespan anyway) then I'd have reason to believe you are insane.
I understand all of this. I was just pointing out that weed is not good for you. I smoked weed everyday for like 3years and can tell you that overtime it does mess with your health, more mentally than phsyically.
The main point I am getting at is that most people have some vice that is not good for their health, be it alcohol, pot or junk food etc. Why is it that smokers (nicotine) are the only ones that ever get taken to task for their choice?
Blacksite
04-01-2009, 01:51
Ever since my father was diagnosed with lung cancer, I've been cautious of smokers for a while now, especially when it comes to second-hand smoke. I hate the smell, always have and always will -- that's not going to change. But I can understand how it becomes an addiction, how you waste your money to feed your craving, because it's not about finding other means to relieve yourself from stress, it's about fighting your craving. That craving plays a part in your addiction. You can't just one day stop smoking because you may end up having a withdrawal and I don't think anyone wants to experience that. So quit while you can. If you want to pretty much have all of this cancerous tissue growing in your lungs, coughing up blood with severe shortness of breath, not to mention other symptoms, then that's your decision. It's not meant to be solved overnight, it takes a while to stop smoking but it's definitely worth it, if not for yourself, then maybe your loved ones.
Funeralfog
04-01-2009, 04:19
when did everyone become so boring?
Thorzilla
04-01-2009, 04:44
I think I am a dumbass. I thought he was talking about marijuana, not cigarettes.
Damn, am I stupid or what. I don't smoke cigarettes and never plan on it.
I feel your pain. I think that as long as you keep it casual it's all cool. Not nearly as bad as alcohol (although I do it too).
DarkVincent07
04-01-2009, 05:52
I hate to say it, but there is some evidence of nicotine being able to usefully help treat some symptoms of ADHD. That's the sum total of benefits, and it can be obtained just as easily from nicotine obtained through other sources, and there are much better meds.
For the most part, it just makes you sickly, makes you smell bad, and eventually kills you.
nicotine may be helpful for that, but all the other 300 chemicals in a cigarette, are not
cupra777
04-01-2009, 07:32
I hate to say it, but there is some evidence of nicotine being able to usefully help treat some symptoms of ADHD. That's the sum total of benefits, and it can be obtained just as easily from nicotine obtained through other sources, and there are much better meds.
For the most part, it just makes you sickly, makes you smell bad, and eventually kills you.
im kinda glad you brought da 1st part up because i have dislexic & i have ADHD & i never knew that, cor great left aint it having both of ADHD & dislexic
Solid_Squirrel
04-01-2009, 07:55
Don't want to sound rude but in what way did smoking help you out?
1. It makes you stink
It's why I shower
2. It's bad for your health
So is just about everything else
3. It's bad for other peoples health
same as above
4. It stinks up your house/car
It's why I do it outside
5. It can put people off
Sucks for them. I've gotten use to the idea that the things I enjoy will not be liked by others
Those are a few of the disadvantages. I don't smoke and don't intend on doing so.
Well done to those who have quit or are quiting!
Been enjoying smoking for some 4 odd years & plan on quitting when I'm 25
got 4 more years left
have had no ill effects on my health so far
(probably because...oh Idk...I TAKE CARE OF MYSELF)
I go for a smoke for whenever the occasion calls
Frustration
Mind Blown Situation
Reading
Relaxing
And Finishing MGS4 on one play through.
Also
why does everyone feel the need to be captain obvious about the DANGERS OF SMOKING!
We know what it will do to us so kindly shut up about it
please go parade the dangers of alcohol to people if you're not to busy
or the dangers of depleted uranium
to the Op of the thread
Congrats man! & cheers to your life with your GF
No problem quitting smoking.
The problem is to avoid starting after you quit.
have had no ill effects on my health so far
Er.
None you've noticed. Yet.
The point about damaging your health is that usually, by the time you notice, it's over.
Look at it this way. If you get lung cancer when you're fifty? It's your own fault.
why does everyone feel the need to be captain obvious about the DANGERS OF SMOKING!
Because most smokers seem not to understand them.
We know what it will do to us so kindly shut up about it
If you're claiming it hasn't had any ill effects on your health, it seems pretty clear you don't understand how the ill effects of smoking work.
DarkVincent07
04-01-2009, 08:07
Er.
None you've noticed. Yet.
The point about damaging your health is that usually, by the time you notice, it's over.
Look at it this way. If you get lung cancer when you're fifty? It's your own fault.
Because most smokers seem not to understand them.
If you're claiming it hasn't had any ill effects on your health, it seems pretty clear you don't understand how the ill effects of smoking work.
this is mainly why i get worried.
My Grandfather died almost 3 years ago now, he was sent to an early grave because he smoke and drank HEAPS when he was in his 20s and 30s. He slowed up, but continued smoking, and he would still be alive today if he didnt.
Of course, at the time he started, there was no knowledge that it was bad for you.
Congrats dude, some of my friends attempted to quit smoking and failed (they have like no will power). As for me only the green goodness.
LibertyCap89
04-01-2009, 11:39
I understand all of this. I was just pointing out that weed is not good for you. I smoked weed everyday for like 3years and can tell you that overtime it does mess with your health, more mentally than phsyically.
The main point I am getting at is that most people have some vice that is not good for their health, be it alcohol, pot or junk food etc. Why is it that smokers (nicotine) are the only ones that ever get taken to task for their choice?
Understandable, too much of anything is bad for you. I think Nicotine smokers get questions so much because there's such a small benefit from it. Weed you get stoned, Alcohol you get drunk, unhealthy foods usually are the treats but with smoking there doesn't seem to be any huge enjoyable effect which makes it seem totally pointless. Binging on any of them is unhealthy though.
I've smoked cigarettes maybe 6 times in my lifetime, and weed once. Weed is good stuff, but I'd imagine it not being as good for you as everyone else says it is.
Anyone who smokes these days with all the knowledge he have on it's ill effects is a moron
Anyone who smokes these days with all the knowledge he have on it's ill effects is a moron
Yeah just as stupid like those who drinks alcohol, and Coca-Cola...
I have been off smoking for over two years now, I started when I was 13 upto 24. My lungs were getting very sore and I was getting the flu once a month. I have not had the flu since ive gave up smoking. I used to be 9 and half stone im now 12 stone after giving up.
Yeah just as stupid like those who drinks alcohol, and Coca-Cola...
Significantly more stupid. If we're comparing the average smoker to the average drinker of alcohol and soda.
clean515
04-01-2009, 13:33
Only smoke crack.
Anyone who smokes these days with all the knowledge he have on it's ill effects is a moron
I guess it's a stupid thing to do. I realised it was, ya know, at that point in my life I just didn't give a ****. I was out of high school and spreading my wings. I don't smoke anymore and I have no intentions on ever starting up again, but do I regret doing it back then? Not a bit.
cupra777
04-01-2009, 20:06
No problem quitting smoking.
The problem is to avoid starting after you quit.
yeah thats the problem i know ill definatly be facing, but i WONT start again
I guess it's a stupid thing to do. I realised it was, ya know, at that point in my life I just didn't give a ****. I was out of high school and spreading my wings. I don't smoke anymore and I have no intentions on ever starting up again, but do I regret doing it back then? Not a bit.
That's the thing, you quit. When I see people who have been smoking for 10+ and have the attitude of "I DO WAT A WANT LAWL" I just shake my head because they are just shaving time off their life for no good reason.
PsychoMantis
04-01-2009, 21:50
I started out as a casual social smoker not doing it alot but I been smoking for at least 3-4 years. My dad smoked for a long time when I was a kid but lots of people that I know from work and people that I don't work with smoke. I attempted to quit but that only lasted for so long and I ended up smoking again. Those who think they are untouchable and can quit at anytime (mostly you young guys/girls) are in for a VERY big surprise.
i tend to have the odd ciggy when i'm drunk, other than that i dont go near them, even the smell gives me an instant sore head!
weird that i like them when i'm drunk...
:lol:
zodg1lla
04-01-2009, 22:37
I smoked through my teens(15-18). I quit Dec 07 and it feels good man.
Endless_Echo
04-01-2009, 23:21
Chewing gum is a great substitute for smoking, it relieves stress, and it's tasty! :D
I could go for a chew... :lol:
Blacksite
04-01-2009, 23:33
Come to think of it, my family dates back to a long history of male smokers. My great grandfather was a smoker, diagnosed with emphysema. My grandfather being a smoker as well, however, not diagnosed with any life-threatening illnesses. My father is a smoker, diagnosed with lung cancer. I'm probably the only one in my family who hasn't picked up on smoking. And while I do think it's something to be proud of, it's not like my father, his father, and his father's father can be happy. They've pretty much been smoking all of their lives. No doubt it'll take a toll on their healths.
I also find it unnatractive to see females, in particular, smoking. But I don't see that too often in my city. I have maybe one friend who smokes and everytime I ask him if he considered quitting, he'll get annoyed. He'll never answer with a 'yes' or 'no' he'll just say that he's thankful someone is concerned about his well-being.
cupra777
04-01-2009, 23:36
i found out i ate more...a ton more while i was quitting
i naturally used to eat loads, durin my quitting proces i ate so much more
was that normal?
if so, why?
I smoked through my teens(15-18). I quit Dec 07 and it feels good man.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/788/feelsgoodnd2.jpg
I am drug free. My grandfather died because of it. So it drove me away from it.
Funeralfog
04-02-2009, 18:46
there is no reason to congratulate someone over something they chose to do themselves. smoking is a right, and im not some annoying person who will tell everyone what they should do. thats Fascism and downright annoying
Seahawkk
04-02-2009, 22:46
there is no reason to congratulate someone over something they chose to do themselves. smoking is a right, and im not some annoying person who will tell everyone what they should do. thats Fascism and downright annoying
Im guessing your a smoker. Suicide is illegal and you choose to do that yourself through smoking....
Scorched
04-02-2009, 23:10
there is no reason to congratulate someone over something they chose to do themselves.
To me, that seems a strange thing to say. So you should only congratulate people if they are forced into doing something? Like if I forced you to quit smoking and you did, should people congratulate you? :-?
Also about this 'right to smoke'... I don't get it. Sorry but other people's right to clean air is a much higher priority than your right to smoke...
Anyway recently (6 months or so) I have been having these really annoying urges to start smoking. I hate the smell, I've never touched a cigarette and yet sometimes when I'm walking past the cigarette counter I just want to go and buy some. I've even dreamt that I'm smoking a few times. I really don't want to start smoking, I just don't know what to do about these urges. :confused:
Well done for quitting man, I know it can be a very hard thing to do especially without anything to help ease you off the nicotene.
When I was younger I tried a cigarrette and I really didnt like the taste lol so I've never really started to smoke. Sometimes they smell nice, sometimes they smell horrible. A few of my friends are smokers now, they all started by having 1 or 2 when we went out drinking and it became a routine.
One of the reasons I dont smoke cigarrettes, weed or take anything else is because Ive seen how expensive cigarrettes can be, how weed can mess with your head and how pills and other drugs can ruin your life. I also have a hole in my Aorta so I dont think any of that stuff would help XD
I dont have anything against people who smoke cigarrettes or weed though, like I said quite a few of my friends are smokers and some of them smoke weed too, I just say no thanks when its offered to me, which means theres more for them lol.
If they offer me a beer thats another story :snicker
wonders1982
04-02-2009, 23:24
Smokings good for you...this guy says so!
http://www.youtube.com/v/UyhvHB62ph8&hl=en&fs=1
god knows what that second parts in there for though...lol
richie217
04-02-2009, 23:33
Im guessing your a smoker. Suicide is illegal and you choose to do that yourself through smoking....
:lol: How many years behind bars do you get for suicide. Never heard of anyone getting time for attempted suicide, maybe a small stint in the looney bin but thats about it.
If I choose to damage MY body through smoking, what right do you have to say anything? If you choose to drink, thats none of my business, if you decide to shoot herion, once again none of my business. As an adult you are responsible for your own action, as I am with mine.
Blacksite
04-02-2009, 23:35
there is no reason to congratulate someone over something they chose to do themselves. smoking is a right, and im not some annoying person who will tell everyone what they should do. thats Fascism and downright annoying
In a world where the dangers of smoking are quite evident, why would you continue putting your health in danger?
There is no benefit to smoking. How could there be? It relieves stress, yes, but in return your lungs begin to deteriorate and your health steadily declines over the years to come. Yes, you have the right to smoke but you also have the opportunity to try and quit smoking for good if you actually care about not being diagnosed with lung cancer, emphysema or some other health-related issue brought on smoking. Why do you think people make the decision to at least try to quit smoking for good?
Quitting smoking is a pain in the ***
Blacksite
04-03-2009, 00:30
Quitting smoking is a pain in the ***
That's the understatement of the year, lol.
No doubt it's going to be difficult. If it was easy then everyone would be doing it, wouldn't they? But the people who do successfully quit are obviously saying that if they can do it, then you can do it too. If you're presented with a challenge that can save your life, wouldn't you want to tackle it?
I quit smoking today! /again.
Hope it last now.
SixEightSix18
04-03-2009, 07:47
I quit recently. But I still dip. Thats my next project.
That's the understatement of the year, lol.
No doubt it's going to be difficult. If it was easy then everyone would be doing it, wouldn't they? But the people who do successfully quit are obviously saying that if they can do it, then you can do it too. If you're presented with a challenge that can save your life, wouldn't you want to tackle it?
Totally. I gave up heaps of times, Most recently in 2004. It's a complete pain in the *** :D
The Allen Carr thing seems to work quite well though, I know 17 people who quit through the seminars and three who quit through reading the book and only a handful of them started again (and it was months later).
Funeralfog
04-03-2009, 18:26
In a world where the dangers of smoking are quite evident, why would you continue putting your health in danger?
There is no benefit to smoking. How could there be? It relieves stress, yes, but in return your lungs begin to deteriorate and your health steadily declines over the years to come. Yes, you have the right to smoke but you also have the opportunity to try and quit smoking for good if you actually care about not being diagnosed with lung cancer, emphysema or some other health-related issue brought on smoking. Why do you think people make the decision to at least try to quit smoking for good?
i have no desire to live to be 90 so i could care less. i find it delicious and calming. its stimulating like a cup of coffee would be. at least it isnt as harsh as reefer
Seahawkk
04-03-2009, 20:12
:lol: How many years behind bars do you get for suicide. Never heard of anyone getting time for attempted suicide, maybe a small stint in the looney bin but thats about it.
If I choose to damage MY body through smoking, what right do you have to say anything? If you choose to drink, thats none of my business, if you decide to shoot herion, once again none of my business. As an adult you are responsible for your own action, as I am with mine.
And i love how people call others "Emo" for self inducing pain. And google it suicide is illegal. Hey if you want to kill yourself thats cool with me its called population control
Seahawkk
04-03-2009, 20:15
i have no desire to live to be 90 so i could care less. i find it delicious and calming. its stimulating like a cup of coffee would be. at least it isnt as harsh as reefer
When your grandchildren and wife are crying, becuase there grandfather/husband is dying from lung cancer, you will regret it.
i have no desire to live to be 90 so i could care less. i find it delicious and calming. its stimulating like a cup of coffee would be. at least it isnt as harsh as reefer
yum. delicious and calming lung cancer
imaROBOT_
04-03-2009, 21:00
Some of you guys are ignorant to smokers. Not all of them choose to be addicted. I'd put just as much blame on the goverment and tabacco companies. Plus smoking isn't the only thing that is negitive for your body that is legal.
People are seriously eating them selves to death. Obesity is getting worse and worse each year. I look at some kids only 7 to 10 years old and they weigh more than I do...
What about alcohol? Liver damage? If you guys don't smoke.. I bet you drink. Everyone has there "thing" they do. It could be smoking, drinking, unhealthy eating, drugs, caffiene.. you name it. It's what calms you and relaxes you, everyone has something. You don't have to treat them like trash just because they decide to smoke.
Blacksite
04-03-2009, 21:16
Yeah, you're right. Maybe I am being a little too harsh here.
It's not that smoking is the only thing that's bad for you.
It's that "bad for you" is a continuum. Eating candy can be bad for you. So can shooting yourself in the head with a shotgun. However, that doesn't mean that they are equally risky.
Smoking is one of the most consistently and thoroughly harmful things people do. It is described as offering a number of "benefits", but in fact, they're all placebo effect or merely the postponement of withdrawal symptoms; it doesn't actually have positive effects from a baseline (with one or two extremely specialized exceptions which you could do with straight nicotine without the smoke).
The problem is that it's exceptionally addictive, so people can't easily stop, and often come up with extremely complicated rationalizations for not trying to. Meanwhile, they spend hundreds or thousands of dollars smelling bad and dying young. The companies who sell this stuff know all about it, have for years, and consistently outright lied to people about it. (For an interesting look at this, look at Doubt is Their Product, a book talking about how people will try to bury scientific evidence to make more money.)
Basically, people make a big deal about it because it's disgusting, harmful, and without benefits. At least caffeine produces some positive results.
Funeralfog
04-03-2009, 22:57
haha i find the comments funny, you think everyone who smokes gets cancer, how stupid does that sound
Not nearly as stupid as your attitude
Scorched
04-04-2009, 01:28
It's not that smoking is the only thing that's bad for you.
It's that "bad for you" is a continuum. Eating candy can be bad for you. So can shooting yourself in the head with a shotgun. However, that doesn't mean that they are equally risky.
Smoking is one of the most consistently and thoroughly harmful things people do. It is described as offering a number of "benefits", but in fact, they're all placebo effect or merely the postponement of withdrawal symptoms; it doesn't actually have positive effects from a baseline (with one or two extremely specialized exceptions which you could do with straight nicotine without the smoke).
The problem is that it's exceptionally addictive, so people can't easily stop, and often come up with extremely complicated rationalizations for not trying to. Meanwhile, they spend hundreds or thousands of dollars smelling bad and dying young. The companies who sell this stuff know all about it, have for years, and consistently outright lied to people about it. (For an interesting look at this, look at Doubt is Their Product, a book talking about how people will try to bury scientific evidence to make more money.)
Basically, people make a big deal about it because it's disgusting, harmful, and without benefits. At least caffeine produces some positive results.
Great post. It annoys me when people say 'yeah, smoking is bad for you but so is [insert list of things here]'. If someone drinks in moderation they are not going to get liver damage. Drinking a glass of red wine every so occasionally is good for you, binge drinking every night is stupid and will give you problems in later life. If someone smokes in moderation they will get lung damage, whether they smoke 20 or 200 a week.
CrazyShady
04-04-2009, 02:08
i don't smoke
haha i find the comments funny, you think everyone who smokes gets cancer, how stupid does that sound
Not everyone gets cancer, but everyone DOES get some sort of lung damage. If you don't believe that then you are fooling yourself.
You honestly believe that 'reefer' does more harm than cigarettes? I don't buy that for a second.
Smoking a reefer does do damage to your lungs like a cigarette, if not more because the smoke in cannabis is thicker and attaches to your lungs (like tobbacco). Remeber anything that burns contains tar and carbon dixoide/monoxide
I didn't say weed was harmless, just less harmful than tobacco. I would think that all the excess chemicals added to cigarettes would be more harmful. I'm not going to debate it though.
Also, don't forget that most people probably smoke at least 15 cigarettes a day vs. someone who probably smokes a couple joints a day.
ive smoked both weed and cigs. cigs are so nasty...
Scorched
04-04-2009, 03:08
Found some interesting stats on causes of death in the US.
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
Tobacco is in front with 435k, alcohol is much less with 85k. Weed is 0... Kind of puts it into context. Maybe instead of harping on about weed all the time the governments should do something about tobacco... but I guess they have their (financial) reasons. I don't smoke weed btw, can't stand the smell.
yup, weed isnt as addicting as tobacco is it? so you cant profit off of taxes AS MUCH id assume
I smoked a pack a day for 4 years straight. A pack a day.
I quit after I had some small chest pains one weekend after a long night of partying and smoking.
I still puff a little weed now and then, but not very often anymore.
It still baffles me (but I know why, taxes, general ignorance, etc.) that cigarettes are legal and marijuana isn't.
Even though in most of Canada if you get caught with personal amount of weed, nothing happens to you.
In any case...
Anyone else love a good cigar? I know I do!
Scorched
04-04-2009, 03:22
And i love how people call others "Emo" for self inducing pain. And google it suicide is illegal. Hey if you want to kill yourself thats cool with me its called population control
Not sure where you heard that suicide is illegal. Maybe years ago it was in some countries, but now it's only considered illegal in very few countries like India, Singapore. Not in the US, UK, Australia or Canada, although it's illegal to help... so where are you saying it's illegal?
I love a good cigar!
I smoke about equivalent of a pack a day but with rolling tobbacco, I used to smoke weed every day when I was in school for about 4 years but decided enough was enough plus I felt a bit paranoid.
The government in the UK has sort of sectioned the smokers, e.g. if you dump a cigarette butt you get fined £75 fair enough, but wouldnt that fall under the same catagorie as if you was to throw a bag of crisps on the floor when you would only get fined £50 for it.
Blacksite
04-04-2009, 03:43
The tobacco industry is never going to fall, mainly because it's been integrated as such a successful product in business for so many years. And despite whatever backlash it may endure, cigarettes are still going to continue selling even with the data Scorched provided. It baffles me, but I guess that's how things work. If it's a succesful industry doing a good job at selling their products, then we can shove aside all of the data about cigarettes killing people, right? That's just pathetic.
Your probably right, if your addicted to tobbacco and knew about the consequences there is an element of ignorance.
The fact is smokers are addicted, it is ok not to smoke in bars etc, but there should still be the right utilities for smokers if there out in the open to have one if they so wish. Smoking is part of some peoples life's it just the way it is but, we should not take the blame for all of lifes little problems. When it can be used as tool for scap-goating.
I'm in high school. Don't smoke, don't plan on it. I hate the smell of smoke - it makes me gag.
Surely though if i choose to smoke (which i do) its my decision to make, I accept the risks and still want to do it. I dont see why smokers should be made social pariahs. I dont drink alcohol because i consider that to be much worse than smoking-look at it this way have you ever seen anyone fighting, swearing, causing trouble because they have smoked too much? Yet drinking seems to be socially acceptable but smoking isnt. We either ban everything that is harmful to us or nothing at all, you cant single out smokers for special attention. Bottom line is, i choose to smoke because I know the risks and i think they are acceptable, I dont expect to be punished for that
look at it this way have you ever seen anyone fighting, swearing, causing trouble because they have smoked too much? Yet drinking seems to be socially acceptable but smoking isnt. We either ban everything that is harmful to us or nothing at all, you cant single out smokers for special attention. Bottom line is, i choose to smoke because I know the risks and i think they are acceptable, I dont expect to be punished for that
Good point, excesive drinking behaviour like fighting is socially unacceptable, where as smoking, does not trigger aggression yet we are noted as "people with a dirty habit". The law classes smoking as "unacceptable" and most smokers will shrug there shoulders and agree. Now say the opposite to a drunk person or alcoholic and you will get a different response.
Surely though if i choose to smoke (which i do) its my decision to make, I accept the risks and still want to do it.
Sure.
Although... Doesn't smoke affect other people, too?
Ever notice that we ban some things which are particularly dangerous?
I dont drink alcohol because i consider that to be much worse than smoking-look at it this way have you ever seen anyone fighting, swearing, causing trouble because they have smoked too much?
No.
But does any amount of alcohol, even a couple of drinks with dinner, massively increase your chance of dying of cancer? Why, no.
Alcohol is dangerous in excess, but not in moderation.
Smoking is dangerous regardless.
We either ban everything that is harmful to us or nothing at all, you cant single out smokers for special attention.
What if we banned things which were always-harmful, but not things which were harmful-only-in-excess?
Bottom line is, i choose to smoke because I know the risks and i think they are acceptable, I dont expect to be punished for that
But you expect to be able to punish everyone else and not get criticized?
Let's say you were the breadwinner for a family, and you died at 35, leaving them destitute and dependent on tax money for their food. Could you see how other people might object?
In fact all fluid is dangerous. Water, milk, soda... We even die of it. So ban that too.
/Day one completed without smoking.
I tried my hardest to enjoy smoking in high school but thank god it didn't take to it. To this day i can't even stand the smell.
cupra777
04-04-2009, 08:43
When your grandchildren and wife are crying, becuase there grandfather/husband is dying from lung cancer, you will regret it.
i agree with that, 1 day ill hopfully have kids BUT when they find out there mum or dad smokes & they know you WILL die from it earlyer then they will be upset
if ur smokin & WILL die quicker, wouldn't you wanna quit & see em more in life
scottscorpion
04-04-2009, 09:35
i stopped smoking ciggerettes in the new year of 2006
best thing i did
money i save from buying them gets me a bag of weed....guess i have to work on quitting that now
Seahawkk
04-05-2009, 00:56
In fact all fluid is dangerous. Water, milk, soda... We even die of it. So ban that too.
/Day one completed without smoking.
oh god
oh god
your comparing milk to cigarettes...
Someone needs psychiatric help
Seahawkk
04-05-2009, 00:58
Sure.
Although... Doesn't smoke affect other people, too?
Ever notice that we ban some things which are particularly dangerous?
No.
But does any amount of alcohol, even a couple of drinks with dinner, massively increase your chance of dying of cancer? Why, no.
Alcohol is dangerous in excess, but not in moderation.
Smoking is dangerous regardless.
What if we banned things which were always-harmful, but not things which were harmful-only-in-excess?
But you expect to be able to punish everyone else and not get criticized?
Let's say you were the breadwinner for a family, and you died at 35, leaving them destitute and dependent on tax money for their food. Could you see how other people might object?
+rep you r logic is undeniable