View Full Version : Look at the damage the Wii has done to Motion Control Gamers (SC TT Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0HUQIVnsMo&feature=player_embedded
GotMilk?
09-01-2010, 03:36
Lol. thats funny... now can people tell the difference between WIi and move??
Wii cant do 1:1. its not physically possible. Wii has no idea where ur controller is. it can only mimic 1:1.
any way +1 for the funny video
lol is that u ONQ?
"you guys know this i've been talking about it all week"
The Sith
09-01-2010, 03:53
LOL....this is funny.
lol is that u ONQ?
"you guys know this i've been talking about it all week"
no...
RawK_Solid
09-01-2010, 04:08
"You can't flick it. You actually have to swing."
"I don't like this game."
LOL
unicron7
09-01-2010, 04:12
"Oh NOEZZZz I gots ta actually swing!???????" lol I can't wait for my Move controllers. Counting down the days. Pretty sweet that it releases on my actual birthday. :D
Those looked pretty damn accurate. There was a smidge of lag, but it was like 90-95% accurate. I'm impressed.
iplayonlysony
09-01-2010, 04:25
It just takes time some effort to get used to. It's just like learning anything else.
haha at the end where eh said"kevin butler said that" and did what the kid was doing make me LOL.
i don't blame the wii. I blame the people using the wii for cheating. While the Wii isn't 1:1, you can still swing it like you should and it works just fine. When my kids convert from Wii to Move, they won't have these issues. They didn't cheat themselves by flicking the Wiimotes.
Wonder if this might highlight a potential problem for some people, not so much in being too used to the Wii but resorting to "waggle" to get a desired effect if the "proper" motion isn't doing it for them.
Two4DaMoney
09-01-2010, 08:57
That kid is too old not to understand what his dad was telling him. He needs a timeout lol. I can't wait to see some videos of hardcore TT players going at it due to Move calculating speed and power.
Suzano-O
09-01-2010, 09:03
I think it's obvious who the winner in that video was...
The little girl playing with the chair :lol:...
The Waggle generation are gonna find Move tough.
It's funny how Nintendo created the whole motion control gamer scene to try and motivate people to get up and move when all people do is sit back or lie down and shake the Wiimote like crazy. I'm not blaming Nintendo for that, they can't control the way people play their games, but they could've made the controls more accurate so you actually have to swing the remote to swing the bat, just like Move. I've played Sports Champions (with Carl, nonetheless) and it's really impressive how responsive the controls are. I could move my Move wand anywhere and it would be recreated perfectly on screen. I think that's why I lost, I was too amazed by the technology at hand.
If only Nintendo had adopted 1:1 right from the get go, Sony wouldn't stand a chance. Can you imagine a Metroid game with pin-point precise controls? C'mon Nintendo, make it happen!
DarkVincent07
09-01-2010, 09:18
this is the best :lol:
lordAlucard
09-01-2010, 09:28
Motionplus is great for the Wii but I have never seen a game that supports Motionplus besides Red Steel 2 and Shaun White.
From the descriptions here it sounds like the Wii is more about timing hence why people just wiggle it.
From the descriptions here it sounds like the Wii is more about timing hence why people just wiggle it.
Basically, alot of games have an auto-like aiming system where in you hit earlier or later to judge your shots. You really have 0 controll over where your shot actually lands. Well, for talbe tennis/Wii Tennis anyways.
Good video, thanks for sharing with us lol, he'll get the hang of it soon :)
UkHardcore
09-01-2010, 12:58
How geeky is that Dad :lol: "Kevin Butler said it months ago" :lol:
Danny2304
09-01-2010, 13:03
That child is so annoying.
I hate people who don't listen.
Dasimpse
09-01-2010, 13:11
Hmm not accessible but awesome for us. The kid will learn
GotMilk?
09-01-2010, 13:14
Basically, alot of games have an auto-like aiming system where in you hit earlier or later to judge your shots. You really have 0 controll over where your shot actually lands. Well, for talbe tennis/Wii Tennis anyways.
well... here is the problem. it must have auto aim cause wii has no idea where ur controller is. so it cant do 1:1. it can only mimic it.
because of this tennis will never be possible on motion plus
[valium]
09-01-2010, 13:35
I'd have to spank him.
UkHardcore
09-01-2010, 13:38
;5166879']I'd have to spank him.
We dont want to know about your sex fantasies.
Breakmoves
09-01-2010, 17:02
Funny video :)
Oh Gee, an 8 year old that doesn't understand how to play a video game inside and out. Damn you nintendo, damn you.
It's funny how Nintendo created the whole motion control gamer scene to try and motivate people to get up and move when all people do is sit back or lie down and shake the Wiimote like crazy. I'm not blaming Nintendo for that, they can't control the way people play their games, but they could've made the controls more accurate so you actually have to swing the remote to swing the bat, just like Move. I've played Sports Champions (with Carl, nonetheless) and it's really impressive how responsive the controls are. I could move my Move wand anywhere and it would be recreated perfectly on screen. I think that's why I lost, I was too amazed by the technology at hand.
If only Nintendo had adopted 1:1 right from the get go, Sony wouldn't stand a chance. Can you imagine a Metroid game with pin-point precise controls? C'mon Nintendo, make it happen!
Metroid works fine as it is with the current Wii Remote scheme, it doesn't even use Wii Moton plus and there is nothing wrong with the aiming or anything like that.
Galvanise_
09-01-2010, 22:24
i don't blame the wii. I blame the people using the wii for cheating. While the Wii isn't 1:1, you can still swing it like you should and it works just fine. When my kids convert from Wii to Move, they won't have these issues. They didn't cheat themselves by flicking the Wiimotes.
Why waste the added energy to get the same effect? I agree with you, but that's the question people would ask.
I'd return with, "Why cheat yourself of the experience?". What's the point of playing with motion controls if you're not going through the motions?
left_senseless
09-02-2010, 00:24
I'd return with, "Why cheat yourself of the experience?". What's the point of playing with motion controls if you're not going through the motions?
unfortunately, people cheat their way through all sorts of crap. look at Modern Warfare 2. loaded with cheaters. go to a gym and watch people throw weights around instead of actually controllably lifting them... that is another way of cheating. if it can be done, people will do it. the nice thing about Move is it doesn't allow it as much if at all. you have to perform the correct actions or it doesn't work. take the ability of cheating away from people and they won't be able to do it. that would be the best solution.
I'd return with, "Why cheat yourself of the experience?". What's the point of playing with motion controls if you're not going through the motions?
They are using motion control despite it being limited compared to what Move may have. For the most part, when people do play motion control games on Wii they tend to stand up and get "into it" even though you don't have to exert yourself so much to play it. More than likely it's just a natural tendency based on the subject content, for lack of a better phrase. Indeed, with Move the game may actually allow for more realistic capture of your motions and that's definitely a more authentic experience as a result, but in the grand scheme of things it's no more of a legitimate experience than what people are already doing on Wii with their actions despite the lack of that 1:1 fidelity.
It may make it easier to pick up on by simplifying the interface like that but the user themselves may interpret it completely different and react to it as such. Hence the kid in the video simply waggling the controller left and right and seemingly preferring to do it that way after multiple warnings.
WoW, The Move falls on my wife's birthday, so that means I won't be playing it day 1.
WoW, The Move falls on my wife's birthday, so that means I won't be playing it day 1.
Then you have your priorities all messed up for sure. :snicker
Then you have your priorities all messed up for sure. :snicker
Hehe, I had no idea it's the same day cause she had plans for us along with friends and family to hang out, celebrate and hit the clubs that night. Something tells me she knew it falls on that day but I'm still getting it.
The father comes across as an ***, way to make your kid like Move.
BlacJack
09-02-2010, 04:38
I'd return with, "Why cheat yourself of the experience?". What's the point of playing with motion controls if you're not going through the motions?
The problem with that though is that sometimes it works better to flick than actually swing. If you use a full swing sometimes the paddle onscreen would swing WAY too soon or too late, it wouldn't accurately tell when the actual swing was. So flicking the wrist was a short enough motion for the Wii to get the correct timing of the swing.
Trust me, I was like you. And sure, it's fun trying to look like you are really playing, but when it doesn't work right like that it defeats the purpose. I might as well get SOME enjoyment out of it by being competitive while at the same time taking the frustration of finicky controls out of the equation.
This actually happened with most Wii games, and is the main reason why flicking got so popular. It was just easier and more reliable. The reliable part being key.
The father comes across as an ***, way to make your kid like Move.I know right. Who is so pumped about Move that they want to make their kid look silly on the internet just to prove a point. Priorities need a fixing.