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RedDragon7

03-02-2012, 02:36

It's March now and only three weeks till it premieres. I've read the trilogy and so far the trailers are looking good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNxb28j5C1w&ob=av3e

I guess this is technically trailer 2. It's the Super Bowl spot but I guess they're not releasing an official trailer 2. I can't complain though, for those who haven't read the book it keeps the real stuff under wraps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IVjVgx193c

I'm a fan of Jennifer Lawrence since I watched her nominated role in Winter's Bone. She also played Mystique/Raven in X-Men: First Class. I think she'll be a great portrayal of Katniss. And although I'm not a big fan of Josh, he hasn't really done any good movies, I think he could do Peeta.

EDIT: A clip released via Facebook. For those who haven't read the books, it might not mean much. For those who have, you might remember her mentality during her private session, "Hey Gamemakers... I have your attention now?!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L761Sro3vW0&feature=player_embedded

HellsJester

03-02-2012, 02:43

Looks rather lame.
Is it gonna be gory at all?
If it is i will see it since im a gorehound.

Funeralfog

03-02-2012, 02:52

Looks rather lame.
Is it gonna be gory at all?
If it is i will see it since im a gorehound.

i agree with line #1

RedDragon7

03-02-2012, 03:02

Looks rather lame.
Is it gonna be gory at all?
If it is i will see it since im a gorehound.

Hehe, suppose that's what I get for going after a movie your looking forward too. Actually, I'm sure it wasn't. Funny timing to me.

To answer your question, there is gore. That happens more in the second and third book/movie as the story heats up in the overall arc. Keep in mind, the games are about kids killing each other. More times than not they aren't pretty deaths because most are desperate.

It kind of depends on how far they take that with these movies. The end of the games in this movie has a dark moment you might enjoy in that sense without giving much away. One example, is that in a previous game a girl steps foot off her block before the countdown ends... those blocks are mined and those mines are active till countdown ends. They scraped her remains off that block.

As far as this movie, this isn't really a spoiler really but I'll hide for those who may not want to know. The moment the games start and Katniss grabs goes to grab that backpack

blood splatters all over her face as another tribute (as they're called) is killed right in front of her by another with throwing knifes

i agree with line #1Lol, you and I rarely agree... no surprise there.

HellsJester

03-02-2012, 03:22

Hehe, suppose that's what I get for going after a movie your looking forward too. Actually, I'm sure it wasn't. Funny timing to me.

To answer your question, there is gore. That happens more in the second and third book/movie as the story heats up in the overall arc. Keep in mind, the games are about kids killing each other. More times than not they aren't pretty deaths because most are desperate.

It kind of depends on how far they take that with these movies. The end of the games in this movie has a dark moment you might enjoy in that sense without giving much away. One example, is that in a previous game a girl steps foot off her block before the countdown ends... those blocks are mined and those mines are active till countdown ends. They scraped her remains off that block.

As far as this movie, this isn't really a spoiler really but I'll hide for those who may not want to know. The moment the games start and Katniss grabs goes to grab that backpack

blood splatters all over her face as another tribute (as they're called) is killed right in front of her by another with throwing knifes

Lol, you and I rarely agree... no surprise there.

Im not trying to get even. I understand why people see nothing special about Expendable 2.
I was just being honest. I will say it looks better than John Carter. Poor Disney sinking so much money in it to make it their next Pirates.

RedDragon7

03-02-2012, 03:33

Im not trying to get even. I understand why people see nothing special about Expendable 2.
I was just being honest. I will say it looks better than John Carter. Poor Disney sinking so much money in it to make it their next Pirates.I was hoping Carter would be good, but the trailers just say the same thing... average. I think the biggest mistake might be Taylor as the lead. And then those alien 4-armed warriors look like something from Pixar.

Still waiting on reviews, just as I am for this movie too. But I don't see it doing well.

I might grab the art book though. The ships and interiors look cool.

RedDragon7

03-13-2012, 22:15

The movie was screened for critics and they are still mostly under embargo, thus no full reviews out yet but now they have been allowed to tweet a reaction. Without jinxing things, so far it seems to be sweeping house! From director Gary Ross (Pleasantville, Seabiscuit) and second unit director Steven Soderbergh (Ocean's Eleven-Twelve-Thirteen, Traffic, The Girlfriend Experience, Contagion)

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/hunger-games-tweets.jpg

Blacksite

03-13-2012, 22:27

Sounds good. I've never read the books but I think I'll see this when it comes out.

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 22:43

I haven't heard much about this movie or the books. Is this based on or similar to the movie "Battle Royale?"

The trailer looks like a similar story, obviously it's somewhat different in the way the kids go through training, etc.

RedDragon7

03-13-2012, 23:30

The games are similar... but there's so much more story than just the games. They are just the tipping point for the story, their society.

I read the trilogy, book two I think is my favorite. From what I've seen of the clips, this is pretty tight adaptation, dialogue straight from the book. The author wrote the first draft of the screenplay.

However, for people who don't know the books are through Katniss' POV and the movie is third-person. There are changes with that difference but that's to be expected.

RedDragon7

03-15-2012, 17:11

To give some idea of the depth this story has, Donald Sutherland discusses the sociopolitical themes in the movie:

As with many great works of science-fiction, the world of Suzanne Collins' The Hunger Games (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=53787) can be viewed as an allegory to our own world. While individual readers and/or audience members will ultimately have to make their own conclusions about the story's relevancy to their own lives, actor Donald Sutherland has some very specific thoughts on the sociopolitical meaning of the tale, likening Katniss Everdeen's struggle to the Occupy moment.

Q: What kind of roles are you looking for at this stage of your career?
Donald Sutherland: Whatever strikes my heart, you know? I mean, this script -- it came, I read it. I couldn’t read it actually. I pushed it away. I sat back and I said to my wife, “I think I just read something that can change everything.” I had no idea about "The Hunger Games," anything about the books, the fascination, nothing, nothing. I only discovered that in the dermatologist's office. At my age you get barnacles taken off your head and stuff. I mean, they’re not really barnacles, but my wretched dermatologist calls them that. And she said, “What are you doing?” And I said, “I just finished shooting 'Hunger Games.'” I got maybe the “m” of Hunger Games out and the office was suddenly filled with people jumping up and down in hysteria. And these are adults! So I figured it out. This script came and it seemed to me that it was a game changer. That it had the possibility, if it were properly done, to catalyze, motivate, mobilize a generation of young people who were, in my opinion, by and large dormant in the political process. You have Occupy Wall Street and all that, but it has a limited base or it seems to have a limited base. And I hoped and I felt that this could maybe spread out across the country. I don’t care what they do, just so long as they stand up and do something so that they identify the political situation that we’re in. I was thrilled at that possibility. And then when Gary [Ross] asked me to do it, to play the President, it was at that time a very peripheral part. We were in North Carolina and talking about that nature of the oligarchies and the privileged and how to administer them. And he said, “I’m going to write,” – god, he’s brilliant. He’s an amazing man, he really is. You loathe to use the word genius, but he’s quite extraordinary from my point of view. And he went away and he came back with a couple of scenes with such economy of language. Of such specificity. He said, “I think what we have to talk about is hope and fear.” And those scenes aren’t in the book. He wrote them and Suzanne Collins loved them. But it so perfectly described what someone -- an administrator, a bureaucrat, not even a leader -- that Coriolanus Snow is and that he has to do. How do you keep that underclass in control? You offer them a little bit of hope. He thinks that Wes Bentley’s character would probably take over his position. He is 76 years old, He was two years old when the Hunger Games started. And he’s looking for a successor. And he tests Wes’ character. “You’ve allowed this girl. This underdog. Do you like underdogs? You’ve allowed her to take some kind of position of power.” ...When you fail, you die. You’re not really of any use. You have your chances. It’s kind of the same in this business these days, you know? You have that one chance and you either succeed or fail.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/snow-hg-002.jpgQ: Were you familiar with Jennifer Lawrence before taking the part?
Sutherland: Neither Gary nor I knew Jennifer Lawrence. I hadn’t seen "Winter’s Bone." But she is, evidenced by that picture and this picture, I would say one of the very best actors working around today. I talked to Gary about George Bernard Shaw and “Saint Joan.” And I’m not a big fan of the play, but the premise is extraordinary and Shaw talks about Joan and all those guys being genius. In their particular moment of their political ascendancy, they were genius. And she, Katniss Everdeen, is a genius. You know, she doesn’t know it when she goes into the arena and she’s in the middle of this coliseum, but it develops. Everything she does is correct. When she reaches down and picks up those berries and puts them in her pocket, I know that she needs them for a scene later on. I’ve read the script. But the character doesn’t know it and just the genius of how that character knows that that might be a weapon that she can use. But most actors who play that will give you something. Just a little hint of an indicator that they actually know that they need it later. This girl! I said to her, I said, “You should change your name to Jennifer Lawrence Olivier!”.

Q: As scary and terrible a person as President Snow is…
Sutherland: Okay, I don’t find him scary or terrible.

Q: Well, I was going to say that there is some sympathy there because we don’t know this world and we know that something very bad has happened in the past. You can almost see fear in him.
Sutherland: I don’t think you see fear in him. I think you see challenge. At my age the only thing you’re really afraid of is Depends [laughs]. I think he sees challenge and I think he sees it in this Katniss Everdeen. I think he sees in her the challenge that he’s been waiting for. You know, sitting there, somebody someday is going to come up sometime. And this particular one, given how it’s all gone, you can’t just kill her. You have to find some other way of controlling her, containing her.

Q: Your character is the only one who seems to really understand that there is a world possible outside of the Hunger Games.
Sutherland: Yeah, sure there is. You know, you think when General Electric doesn’t pay tax on four billion dollars they don’t know that there is another world possible where they did pay the bloody tax? Sure they do.

Q: It’s interesting that you could really connect it to the Occupy moment. The underdog speech is something you might hear on conservative radio.
Sutherland: Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Except for Rush [Limbaugh] [laughs]. I bet Lionsgate doesn’t want us to dwell too much on Occupy Wall Street. But you’re right. I went there. I went to Occupy Vancouver. It felt so good. Somewhere around ’74, whatever we were doing was co-opted. It was commercialized. It became a brand and everybody lost heart. I have here [reaches for his briefcase], I have it here I don’t want to take it out, “The Port Huron Statement,” that the SDS made in 1962... Oh god, read it. Read it! Read it! It’s so -- it’s just brilliant. It’s really brilliant. It’s brilliant today and I can’t read it because I can’t see properly, but it ends with something to the effect of, “You might think that what we are proposing is unattainable. But we’re proposing that because otherwise what is going to happen is unimaginable.” And that’s what happened.

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/snow-hg-001.jpgQ: Can you talk about President Snow viewing this position in the world of Panem and the challenge...
Sutherland: No, no, I don’t see it as a challenge. That’s a grave misconstruction of what I said. He expects someone to come and challenge his position. He’s very confident. His main priority, actually, are roses. I mean, you see that he looks different from people in the community. He’s much older and he comes from a different generation, in the same sense that my parents didn’t really like Elvis Presley. I was crazy about him, and so to with President Snow in that I’m not sure how much he approves of all that. But it’s okay. Now I got out in that hallway and all those loads of people have tattoos. I don’t have any tattoos, you know? I could have “Rh Negative” on there, I don’t even have that [laughs]. So that’s why he looks like he looks.

Q: So if you’re being in the skin of President Snow and understanding him, making connections like the Occupy Wall Street, does that make you have understanding of people who are on the opposite side of that movement?
Sutherland: That actually doesn’t really enter into the character, but it enters into the process of my thinking around the character. Yeah, sure, sure. What he does, any actor they give the character a little piece of DNA, my DNA, and stuck a script on it and put it in a petri dish inside your belly and out comes this fella. So he’s part me, he’s part the script, and so he really is off on his own, and he certainly isn’t thinking about Occupy Wall Street or anything else. But me, sure, I muse about those kinds of things.Sorry about everything in bold. This forum is a pain in the ass sometimes.

Keep in mind there's two other books, so these themes start here but they don't become prominent till the third book at the climax of the overall arc.

And the Occupy movement is really only a part of the theme. There's more interesting points I found.

ex nihilo7

03-16-2012, 20:22

I am a fan of Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Rowling. Would I like these books?

RedDragon7

03-16-2012, 21:37

They're kind of different books. The Lord of the Rings is an incredible adventure and of course a metaphor, for Tolkien's life. At least his experiences.

These books you can relate to, connect with the character more emotionally. The overall story connects to our society on a level LOTR doesn't.

Another thing... LOTR has been around for a very long time and has stood the test of time. Quite a masterpiece. These are very new by comparison, they're more modern. So there's that... Now how that compares to Rowling's Harry Potter books I'm not sure, those being more recent.

ex nihilo7

03-18-2012, 02:22

I think I'll pick these books up sometime soon when I get a little extra cash. Its only $10 a book on amazon right now, which is a pretty good deal.

RedDragon7

03-18-2012, 02:56

Blacksite

03-18-2012, 03:02

Ya know, if you head to a torrent site. Only take a minute to download the set, Kindle that is. I mean I prefer books myself but if your strapped it's a way to go.

Also, reviews have starting coming in... although it's got a ways to go yet it's got a very nice start:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6563/86903743.jpg
Very nice.

Actually, it reminds me of how X-Men: First Class held a perfect Tomatometer rating for the first week or so before finishing off with an 87 percent.

ex nihilo7

03-18-2012, 05:53

Ya know, if you head to a torrent site. Only take a minute to download the set, Kindle that is. I mean I prefer books myself but if your strapped it's a way to go.

Also, reviews have starting coming in... although it's got a ways to go yet it's got a very nice start:

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6563/86903743.jpg

A friend ended up emailing me to them. I didn't expect that to happen haha.

Kuro

03-18-2012, 06:18

Gotta read these books man heard my friend talking bout it the other day

wesmore24

03-18-2012, 07:09

I read the books, they were great. But I and Im sure plenty of other people (and myself) have read great books and the movie was just disappointing because the movie didn't quite live up to the book. I'm not saying that this will be the case for the Hunger Games, I'm just not sure how it will be.

RedDragon7

03-18-2012, 07:15

The author co-wrote the screenplay and was a producer. She's already given her praise to the movie. I doubt it will disappoint unless your hoping for the most amazing movie ever... or whatever...

Keep in mind this movie will have differences which has been noted by everyone. The reason being the book is POV of katniss and the movie is third-person. Viewers will see some aspects not in the book, but they should be looked at as additions further exploring the world Suzanne created rather than any negative spin.

wesmore24

03-18-2012, 07:18

DreDayDetox

03-20-2012, 21:49

Dave-The-Rave

03-20-2012, 22:13

From what I've seen so far it looks like another girl movie like Twilight.

RedDragon7

03-20-2012, 22:53

Says the movie also opens in IMAX, but are there scenes that are shot in IMAX or is it just expanded on a slightly bigger screen? A lot of 3D IMAX movies do that....I'm asking because I have a 2 for 1 pizza pizza ticket where if I buy a normal ticket, the 2nd ticket is free...I would ask if any of you wanna come watch it with me this Friday, but I doubt you guys live in Ontario, Canada.That's because 3D doesn't natively co-exist with IMAX. IMAX is only shot on film and 3D is only shot digitally.

If you shoot natively in 3D or digital there's no way to have a full IMAX shot. It's like turning a DVD into a blu-ray. Actually tougher.

This film was shot digitally but not native 3D. So it's post-converted both IMAX and 3D. Now a 2D version of IMAX would be fine, I don't know anything about the 3D. Hopefully at worst there's little indication of it but it doesn't distract from the movie.

From what I've seen so far it looks like another girl movie like Twilight.Pahahaha... That's like calling The Walking Dead a SOAP opera because of the emotional conflict between Rick, Laurie, and Carl.

Tapatalk

[DT]

03-20-2012, 23:02

I read the first book, thought it was _ok_. I was surprised it got as big as it did ... friend’s girls in the 12-15 demographic are _crazy_ for them.

Dave-The-Rave

03-20-2012, 23:17

All these book movies just trying to be the next Potter..keep trying.

Blacksite

03-21-2012, 00:10

All these book movies just trying to be the next Potter..keep trying.
Harry Potter might be the most popular book movie series but that doesn't necessarily make it the best. Personally, I think they're overrated.

The Bourne trilogy was much more enjoyable for me.

MATRIX 2

03-21-2012, 00:29

They might be the most popular book movies but that doesn't necessarily mean they're the best. Personally, I think they're overrated. The Bourne trilogy was much more enjoyable for me.

Is not targeted toward youth readers.

From what I've seen so far it looks like another girl movie like Twilight.

The highest rated Twilight move on RT is at 49.

This is at 90 currently.

Do you really think it will drop by 41 in three days?

Blacksite

03-21-2012, 00:32

Is not targeted toward youth readers.
I know. I just wanted to throw in an example of good book movies.

MATRIX 2

03-21-2012, 00:34

I know. I just wanted to throw in an example of good book movies.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/05/gandalf-glasses-2011-05-13-600.jpg

RedDragon7

03-21-2012, 00:43

Anyone whose read the book(s) knows that the relationship DOES NOT drive the story.

The story drives the relationship...
It's a friggin' tactic for the most part.

For those who have not read it. Might want to listen to the ones who have.

Tapatalk

Sylar

03-21-2012, 18:43

I saw a trailer for this in the cinema when I went to watch Chronicle, I thought it looked really good and I never knew it was based on a book

RedDragon7

03-21-2012, 20:53

I know some people might be interested. I know DreDayTox loved 127 Hours. Simon Beaufoy who wrote that movie and Slumdog Millionaire is already writing the second and third movies.

DreDayDetox

03-21-2012, 23:00

I know some people might be interested. I know DreDayTox loved 127 Hours. Simon Beaufoy who wrote that movie and Slumdog Millionaire is already writing the second and third movies.

I like the short of my name, you just needed the "De" before the "Tox" or Detox for short lol...

Anyway, that was irrelevant but yeah I loved 127 Hours and as I recall, you did too. I remember you had a sig and I remember posting on your page about it not winning anything. I still think Franco deserved best actor for that one lol.

ex nihilo7

03-21-2012, 23:10

So I finished the Hunger Games book yesterday. I enjoyed it, and am going to see the movie on Friday. I guessed at the end about a few chapters in, but it came about in a way I didn't expect.

RedDragon7

03-22-2012, 00:21

I like the short of my name, you just needed the "De" before the "Tox" or Detox for short lol...My bad, I feel bad about that :lol: I generally just do Dre to abbrev it. I kept thinking after i posted... "There's three D's in his name, isn't there..."

Anyway, that was irrelevant but yeah I loved 127 Hours and as I recall, you did too. I remember you had a sig and I remember posting on your page about it not winning anything. I still think Franco deserved best actor for that one lol.Yep, still a great movie and Franco :snicker definitely glad he got the nom at least.

So I finished the Hunger Games book yesterday. I enjoyed it, and am going to see the movie on Friday. I guessed at the end about a few chapters in, but it came about in a way I didn't expect.There are some predictable moments but I still enjoy how they play out. Like you say it's not quite how you expect.

Do yourself a favor and read the other two. The first book is cool, but the next two are where it's really at. I mean this movie is light-hearted compared to the others. The second book is my favorite I think. The third though has some cool moments and the ending has a nice socio-political statement I thought really relates to our society.

ex nihilo7

03-22-2012, 03:00

I have the other two. I'll probably start them after I see the movie though.