View Full Version : the 360, so bad its.... fantastic.
Yungstar 2006
07-11-2012, 20:09
1/ probably the most unreliable console to ever be built.. <br />
2/ the least amount of exclusives of any console this gen.. <br />
3/ stupidly expensive add ons like HD's, rechargeable battery's, wireless...
Ghost-Rhayne
07-11-2012, 20:20
I agree! <br />
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I dont really care for the ability of XGC and easy MP...Paying to play online is fucked and people bitch and moan about how expensive the PS3 is but people who have had a 360 from around...
radgamer420
07-11-2012, 20:24
Have to agree with all of that. The only advantage 360 really has is alot (not all of course) of multiplat games look and/or play better on it.
Ghost-Rhayne
07-11-2012, 20:28
Have to agree with all of that. The only advantage 360 really has is alot (not all of course) of multiplat games look and/or play better on it.
Yeah, that has surely been a trend. Can't be denied, but it has gotten better over the last year or so. For me it's offset by Sony's first party.
Wonder what this situation will be like next gen.
LadyDuoMaxwell
07-11-2012, 20:29
While I personally don't hate the Xbox 360, the main reason I got one years ago is because I can play online with my friends. If I didn't know anyone who had one, I never got one.
justintheman87
07-11-2012, 20:31
I am on my 4th Xbox 360, while my PS3 is still going strong (40GB launch model). I own them both and have good/bad things to say about both of them.
360
- I hate paying for XBL, but at the same time I rather game online with my 360. Go figure.
- I have no faith in the console lasting, at all. My faith was lost 3 times already....
PS3
- Mandatory installs....
- No cross game chat ability.
- Has more exclusives that I enjoy over the 360.
So to summarize. If I am gaming with a group of friends it is on the 360, but if I am playing alone it is on the PS3.
radgamer420
07-11-2012, 20:34
Yeah, that has surely been a trend. Can't be denied, but it has gotten better over the last year or so. For me it's offset by Sony's first party. Wonder what this situation will be like next gen. I dont think that will happen again next gen if its true that Sony is going with more traditional architecture with the PS4.
DreDayDetox
07-11-2012, 20:38
I think having free online play on PS3 can beat out any feature that 360 will have. I mean for me to buy an xbox360, it would have to give me blowjobs. oh wait..
radgamer420
07-11-2012, 20:41
I think having free online play on PS3 can beat out any feature that 360 will have. I mean for me to buy an xbox360, it would have to give me blowjobs. oh wait.. lol Good one. Yeah having free online is huge. And PS4 will no doubt have x game voice chat since Vita already does. And thats the only real feature that Live has that PSN doesn't that I would even use.
Soldier 95B
07-11-2012, 20:52
1. The Xbox 360 is indeed the least reliable console this gen. The Wii, oddly enough, is the most reliable and widely sold. I hate my Wii. <br />
2. The Xbox 360 has the most exclusives this gen actually....
Thorzilla
07-11-2012, 21:17
Haters be hatin'. I've got two games sitting in my shelve until I get one at the end of the generation: Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon.
DeviousOne
07-11-2012, 21:25
http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/xbox_360_rrod.jpg
Err Number 2 is wrong (depends if you mean retail of digital I guess), but the rest looks smack on. <br />
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Number 5 is about you interwebz conneciton.
Ghost-Rhayne
07-11-2012, 22:42
lol I love how people like to correct the argument, saying that 360 has more exclusives when they know full well that people are talking about games that people like us (hobbiest gamers) give a fuck about, and not kiddie casual and 2D side scrolling arcade games. :)
I didn't buy an HD console to play arcade games. :)
lol I love how people like to correct the argument, saying that 360 has more exclusives when they know full well that people are talking about games that people like us (hobbiest gamers) give a fuck about, and not kiddie casual and 2D side scrolling arcade games. :)
I didn't buy an HD console to play arcade games. :)
Wouldnt you say anyone who is a true hobbiest gamer does not limit themselevs to the production budget of the game?
I dont like games simply because they have a AAA budget.
Minecraft, Shadow Complex, Trials etc all easily beat many a AAA budget game...
lol I love how people like to correct the argument, saying that 360 has more exclusives when they know full well that people are talking about games that people like us (hobbiest gamers) give a fuck about, and not kiddie casual and 2D side scrolling arcade games. :)
I didn't buy an HD console to play arcade games. :)There are some arcade games that are actually good but that's what's great about Playstation, it's great diversity in both bigger budget titles and arcade.
XBOX 3 Fix me ftw!
PS3 has the awesome 1st party exclusives but let's face it fellas, the only people making money from most of these exclusives is Redbox, no what'a mean?
radgamer420
07-12-2012, 06:08
XBOX 3 Fix me ftw! PS3 has the awesome 1st party exclusives but let's face it fellas, the only people making money from most of these exclusives is Redbox, no what'a mean? I heard dat playa.
Ghost-Rhayne
07-12-2012, 06:47
Wouldnt you say anyone who is a true hobbiest gamer does not limit themselevs to the production budget of the game?
I dont like games simply because they have a AAA budget.
Minecraft, Shadow Complex, Trials etc all easily beat many a AAA budget game...
That's not the point I'm making. Where are all the threads with people raving over 2D side scrollers and arcade games? There is one in recent memory that I can remember (the zombie one on 360). There are a few games that stand out, Alan Wake: AM, inFamous: FoB and Journey etc, but in general games like these are few and far between. Do we watch E3, Gamescom, TGS, Comicon etc to see the latest announcements of 2D side scrollers? Of course a hobbiest doesn't restrict himself/herself to any type or genre of game, but it's sure as hell not kept e up till 2am in June to watch Sony's conference. It is the big games that garner the most excitement here, as seen by looking at the games sections of the forum.
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 12:46
lol I love how people like to correct the argument, saying that 360 has more exclusives when they know full well that people are talking about games that people like us (hobbiest gamers) give a fuck about, and not kiddie casual and 2D side scrolling arcade games. :)
I didn't buy an HD console to play arcade games. :)
Us hobbiest gamers include people such as myself (and many others) that give a fuck about PSN/XBLA/Indie great games too. Feel free to limit your preference to disk based only games. There will be millions of us that choose to not limit ourselves to that. I have more digital games than I do disk based games. And I love them all.
Wouldnt you say anyone who is a true hobbiest gamer does not limit themselevs to the production budget of the game?
I dont like games simply because they have a AAA budget.
Minecraft, Shadow Complex, Trials etc all easily beat many a AAA budget game...
I could NOT agree more. We have about 3000 exclusive titles on the 360 to choose from. How many do we have on our PS3?
radgamer420
07-12-2012, 15:23
http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/xbox_360_rrod.jpg People still use that as an argument? lol
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 15:27
Yeah...that and this:
http://ylod.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/PS3YLOD_original.jpe
Used to be funny.
radgamer420
07-12-2012, 15:34
Yeah...that and this: http://ylod.co/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/PS3YLOD_original.jpe Used to be funny. Yep unless of course you were the victim of either. I've been the victim of both and I definitely wasn't laughing.
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 15:36
Yep unless of course you were the victim of either. I've been the victim of both and I definitely wasn't laughing.
Ditto that :( Sucks....but meh..what are we gonna do.
Yep unless of course you were the victim of either. I've been the victim of both and I definitely wasn't laughing.
two years after getting my 360 core system, I had the RROD. Bought a 20 dollar ebay fix-it kit and it has been perfect ever since. My kids now use it to play.
Never had YLOD on my 60GB phat before I sold it, and now my current slim is perfect.
radgamer420
07-12-2012, 15:44
two years after getting my 360 core system, I had the RROD. Bought a 20 dollar ebay fix-it kit and it has been perfect ever since. My kids now use it to play. Never had YLOD on my 60GB phat before I sold it, and now my current slim is perfect. Yeah I was lucky because I had my 360 under the old Best Buy warranty plan where you could just exchange it for a new one. I has 2 RROD and one E74 error. All were exchanged under that warranty. Sadly BB doesn't do that anymore. My PS3 was under Gamestops warranty so I was lucky there too.
I OU a Beatn
07-12-2012, 16:02
I'm the exact opposite of most people. I had a launch console that lasted clear up until I got my Halo Reach console and never once had a problem with it. I ended up getting rid of it for credit for...
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 16:09
I agree, Microsoft should give the GOLD users the option to disable the ads.
The ads must be horrible on the US Live, here with the AU XBL Gold I see one ad but it doesn't get in my way, it runs but unless I direct the cursor to it I cannot hear it or anything...
I can understand it getting some upset but if it's the same deal as my XBL here in Australia then I think some people are being picky?
The ads must be horrible on the US Live, here with the AU XBL Gold I see one ad but it doesn't get in my way, it runs but unless I direct the cursor to it I cannot hear it or anything...
I can understand it getting some upset but if it's the same deal as my XBL here in Australia then I think some people are being picky?
it is the same here. The ads are not intrusive at all
radgamer420
07-12-2012, 16:17
The ads must be horrible on the US Live, here with the AU XBL Gold I see one ad but it doesn't get in my way, it runs but unless I direct the cursor to it I cannot hear it or anything... I can understand it getting some upset but if it's the same deal as my XBL here in Australia then I think some people are being picky? Its the same here and yes some people are just being nitpicky. The ads haven't been intrusive at all to me.
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 16:31
The ads must be horrible on the US Live, here with the AU XBL Gold I see one ad but it doesn't get in my way, it runs but unless I direct the cursor to it I cannot hear it or anything...
I can understand it getting some upset but if it's the same deal as my XBL here in Australia then I think some people are being picky?
I too only have the one ad. But as a Gold member, I think we should have the choice to disable it or customize it to a button that we want it to be.
I too only have the one ad. But as a Gold member, I think we should have the choice to disable it or customize it to a button that we want it to be.
I respect your stance but do not understand it.
If it's 1 space that does not interfere with your experience (which would be gaming, watching movies, using apps, TV, chatting to people and/or use of Kinect) why does it matter that much?
I OU a Beatn
07-12-2012, 16:34
The ads must be horrible on the US Live, here with the AU XBL Gold I see one ad but it doesn't get in my way, it runs but unless I direct the cursor to it I cannot hear it or anything...
I can understand it getting some upset but if it's the same deal as my XBL here in Australia then I think some people are being picky?
Same way. I just don't think I should have to look at ads on a service I'm paying for - it kind of defeats the purpose. Is it intrusive? No. Should I have to look at it when I'm paying for a service? No. Stick it on Silver Members' dashboard.
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 16:42
I respect your stance but do not understand it.
If it's 1 space that does not interfere with your experience (which would be gaming, watching movies, using apps, TV, chatting to people and/or use of Kinect) why does it matter that much?
I have never complained about it, and I do ignore it. I just think we should have it removed if we pay for the gold service. But they won't, so no big deal. I use the Xbox 360 guide blades 99.999% of the time anyway, so I rarely see the dashboard.
Same way. I just don't think I should have to look at ads on a service I'm paying for - it kind of defeats the purpose. Is it intrusive? No. Should I have to look at it when I'm paying for a service? No. Stick it on Silver Members' dashboard.
Unfortunately for us we don't get to tell the big 3 how their dashboards are to be laid out and to look, I would agree it'd be better if everyone could alter what they could see, but I doubt that'll happen.
Unfortunately for us we don't get to tell the big 3 how their dashboards are to be laid out and to look, I would agree it'd be better if everyone could alter what they could see, but I doubt that'll happen.
if the new system has the metro interface like windows 8, we might very well get to move the stuff around like Win 8 can.
who knows
...but I feel some will still complain that even though they moved the ad all the way to the far right or something, away from screens view that they'd still complain about it technically being there still.
I think if that is a major factor for some, then Microsoft got a lot right.
Soldier 95B
07-12-2012, 17:34
if the new system has the metro interface like windows 8, we might very well get to move the stuff around like Win 8 can.
who knows
Microsoft has confirmed that the fall update of the Xbox 360 dashboard will allow you to customize one or some of the boxes on the metro interface.
You know what really pisss's me off about Live at the moment:
1/ They cancelled Sent U a Message.
2/ They diddnt replace any of the Live shows with..... well anything.
3/ I cant even get friggin IGN anymore.
IGN where is my IGN APP! FFS its not fair I cant oogle Chobot and that blonde clone of hers anymore!
Bligmerk
07-13-2012, 00:45
The best thing about the 360 is that it made Don Mattrick not just rich, but among the super rich. It bought him the most expensive home in Vancouver, B.C. and it is in the running for one of the most expensive houses in all of Canada. He is so rich that he happily says in interviews that he works out of his home and watching his children play Kinect games puts him into the frontlines of console gaming. You have to admit, you are energized and inspired by his youthful charm and boyish good looks.
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/don-mattricks-house/view/?service=1
http://www.greatestates.info/stats_vancouver.html <#1 at bottom of page>
Soldier 95B
07-13-2012, 12:44
1/ They cancelled Sent U a Message.
I watched it a few times, but I realized that I knew everything they covered because I had found it on the internet well before they answered the questions.
You know what really pisss's me off about Live at the moment:
1/ They cancelled Sent U a Message.
2/ They diddnt replace any of the Live shows with..... well anything.
3/ I cant even get friggin IGN anymore.
Agreed. :(
I used to enjoy this so much, it was cool to just listen to the two guys with their shtick. I knew of the news but their spin on top of the news was cool and funny (to me).
I'd have liked to have seen new shows/content also, fill the void.
I have a laptop hooked up to my HDTV so I was able to go that route but it was nice to have it all in one experience.
The best thing about the 360 is that it made Don Mattrick not just rich, but among the super rich. It bought him the most expensive home in Vancouver, B.C. and it is in the running for one of the most expensive houses in all of Canada. He is so rich that he happily says in interviews that he works out of his home and watching his children play Kinect games puts him into the frontlines of console gaming. You have to admit, you are energized and inspired by his youthful charm and boyish good looks.
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/don-mattricks-house/view/?service=1
http://www.greatestates.info/stats_vancouver.html <#1 at bottom of page>
Wow. That house is insane
Nobody likes Don Mattrick.
Soldier 95B
07-13-2012, 19:51
Nobody likes Don Mattrick.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7563454618_59b60d40d3_z.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/0173_rkfe7.gif
radgamer420
07-13-2012, 19:57
http://www.abload.de/img/0173_rkfe7.gif He looks like a rodent. lol
Soldier 95B
07-13-2012, 20:15
I always liked Peter Moore and Jay Allard, as well as Shane Kim. GONE GONE GONE.
But now MS has Phil Harrison :)
I find the Xbox 360 GUI to be better than the XMB. The XMB is to simplistic and it isn't eye catching enough. Live is better because of X game chat. I hear that Vita has it from somebody, so could that mean X game chat coming to the PS3?
I actually find the adverts useful like for sales and that.
We can't really argue about the RROD and the YLOD because the SKU's have changed. But I would have been disappointed If I bought the 360 on launch just because how cheap and nasty it looked, fuck paying £300 for that.
I find the Xbox 360 GUI to be better than the XMB. The XMB is to simplistic and it isn't eye catching enough. Live is better because of X game chat. I hear that Vita has it from somebody, so could that mean X game chat coming to the PS3?
I actually find the adverts useful like for sales and that.
We can't really argue about the RROD and the YLOD because the SKU's have changed. But I would have been disappointed If I bought the 360 on launch just because how cheap and nasty it looked, fuck paying £300 for that.
I actually couldnt find how to launch my game when i first booted up the 360 lol unlike xmb.
And no cross game chat will never be on the ps3 but i bet ps4 will have it
radgamer420
07-13-2012, 20:54
I find the Xbox 360 GUI to be better than the XMB. The XMB is to simplistic and it isn't eye catching enough. Live is better because of X game chat. I hear that Vita has it from somebody, so could that mean X game chat coming to the PS3? I actually find the adverts useful like for sales and that. We can't really argue about the RROD and the YLOD because the SKU's have changed. But I would have been disappointed If I bought the 360 on launch just because how cheap and nasty it looked, fuck paying £300 for that. Sony already said no X game chat ever for PS3 due to the split RAM. But Vita has it and most likely so will the PS4. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-19-why-the-ps3-cant-do-cross-game-voice-chat
Sony already said no X game chat ever for PS3 due to the split RAM. But Vita has it and most likely so will the PS4. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-19-why-the-ps3-cant-do-cross-game-voice-chat
I dont think its the split ram that causes it, i think its because the games are designed to use all the ram, which means they would need to patch previous games to support it
radgamer420
07-13-2012, 21:06
I dont think its the split ram that causes it, i think its because the games are designed to use all the ram, which means they would need to patch previous games to support it Well whatever the case it wont be happening on the PS3. But since its on the Vita and was the number one requested feature from PSN users according to Sony I think the PS4 will definitely have it.
Well whatever the case it wont be happening on the PS3. But since its on the Vita and was the number one requested feature from PSN users according to Sony I think the PS4 will definitely have it.
Yeah id be very suprised if the ps4 doesnt have cross game chat.
Soldier 95B
07-14-2012, 00:15
I find the Xbox 360 GUI to be better than the XMB. The XMB is to simplistic and it isn't eye catching enough. Live is better because of X game chat. I hear that Vita has it from somebody, so could that mean X game chat coming to the PS3?
I actually find the adverts useful like for sales and that.
We can't really argue about the RROD and the YLOD because the SKU's have changed. But I would have been disappointed If I bought the 360 on launch just because how cheap and nasty it looked, fuck paying £300 for that.
While I am not a huge fan of the XMB, I do find it's simple appearance to be better than the Xbox dashboard. I get the metro thing, but I am not a "busy" person. I am the same kinda guy who likes every icon off of my desktop. Now, if you take into account that I prefer to use the Xbox 360 guide button to access all my stuff instead of the dashboard, I like the guide better than the XMB.