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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWvgETOo5ek&feature=player_embedded
This new trailer, designed to show off the hugely impressive graphics that CryEngine 3 is capable of, hints at the sort of visuals we can expect from next generation consoles like the PlayStation 4.
It’s quite amazing, the lighting especially good and the ending, with the helicopter, is stunning. All this is real time, apparently, and taken from Crysis 3.
If the PS4 can get anywhere near this, we’ll be more than happy.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2012/08/10/cryengine-3-trailer-shows-what-ps4-might-be-capable-of/
jlippone
08-15-2012, 11:52
It's a good start, but expect things to get better when software matures.
Blacksite
08-15-2012, 22:39
We have an entire thread dedicated to CryEngine 3 in the PC section, if you guys are interested. Not saying that anything will happen to this thread but it's worth checking out some of the other videos.
Realistic frogs. Now I'm impressed.
But if next gen gaming will have those features as the norm then bring on the next hardware already!. I can't imagine what games will look like five years down the line.
Seen this a while back and it could be
radgamer420
08-16-2012, 20:36
Meh. Pure speculation. We dont even have PS4 specs yet.
gangsta_795
08-16-2012, 20:42
Looks good but in no way related to what PS4 might be capable of.
D3seeker
08-17-2012, 04:16
So who's hinting that this is what the PS4 is capable of. I mean of course thos guys would have alpha kits not but no one credible has said anything concrete.
(read: gime my PS4 already!!!)
Tribunal
08-17-2012, 20:03
Nope. I refuse to believe anything will show off the PS4s potential until Sony remakes the Killzone 2 trailer with it.
Looks good but in no way related to what PS4 might be capable of.Personally, I think it should be capable of this.
jlippone
08-18-2012, 04:59
Personally, I think it should be capable of this.
It is the baseline what is expected of the next generation..
No no no.... that's not good enough, I want CG like visuals for the PS4 or I wont buy it ! :D
Tribunal
08-18-2012, 16:12
Personally, I think it should be capable of this.
If every console is going to cost at least $700 yes.
gangsta_795
08-18-2012, 16:14
If every console is going to cost at least $700 yes.
My thoughts exactly. CE offers the verry best visuals and if future consoles are to be capable of running it at acceptable rates, they're gonna cost a lot.
Tribunal
08-19-2012, 01:00
We're much more likely to see the equivalent of a Radeon 6870 at best, but much more likely a 5770, if they plan to keep the price within reason. Because you know that next gen Cell is going to be outrageously expensive.
Sajuuk Khar
08-19-2012, 03:46
We're much more likely to see the equivalent of a Radeon 6870 at best, but much more likely a 5770, if they plan to keep the price within reason. Because you know that next gen Cell is going to be outrageously expensive.
Performance wise I think a 6870 with a healthy supply of RAM would be pretty good. Though I would hope they could actually get something from the 7000 range with the huge power efficiencies the most recent range offers.
itachi73378
08-19-2012, 04:07
Performance wise I think a 6870 with a healthy supply of RAM would be pretty good. Though I would hope they could actually get something from the 7000 range with the huge power efficiencies the most recent range offers.
The leaked specs say ps4 has a gpu comparable to HD7850 and ANOTHER gpu inside the APU
No no no.... that's not good enough, I want CG like visuals for the PS4 or I wont buy it ! :D
That tessellated toad is beyond CG. Those tesselated leaves are my wish come true. That advanced pixel mapping on the tree is amazing.
http://t.qkme.me/3os73l.jpg
To be fair, its a tech demo from a current gen game showing what can be done with the engine on really highend PC and obviously Nextgen consoles
Obviously nextgen visuals will be way better then that, but more simplified if ya get me, more practical, devs aren't gonna bother with a frog
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Tribunal
08-19-2012, 11:58
The leaked specs say ps4 has a gpu comparable to HD7850 and ANOTHER gpu inside the APU
Again, if that's the case, the cost of PS4 will be astronomical.
itachi73378
08-19-2012, 12:10
Again, if that's the case, the cost of PS4 will be astronomical.
The ps3 cost sony around $830 per unit, Even when they were selling at $600 they were taking a huge loss. Both ps360 came with high end GPUs for there time so its entirely possible, although unlikely
gangsta_795
08-19-2012, 12:32
The leaked specs say ps4 has a gpu comparable to HD7850 and ANOTHER gpu inside the APU
There is absolutely no chance of that happening. I'd say a 6870/560 Ti at best.
itachi73378
08-19-2012, 12:55
There is absolutely no chance of that happening. I'd say a 6870/560 Ti at best.
560ti is already at 7850 price range :)
And the console will launch late 2013 to early 2014 so why would they not have latest gpus?
Super_Lilith
08-19-2012, 20:22
The ps3 cost sony around $830 per unit, Even when they were selling at $600 they were taking a huge loss. Both ps360 came with high end GPUs for there time so its entirely possible, although unlikely
The RSX was a piece of crap even at launch, using old pipeline technology and low end cheap memory interface.
I think Sony has learned from PS3 hardware though and will place more emphasis on the GPU this time and use a more cost effective cpu.
I would expect next gen to do this sort of graphics at the least.
gangsta_795
08-20-2012, 04:23
560ti is already at 7850 price range :)
No...the 560Ti costs $300 and the 7850 costs $450 :confused:
And the console will launch late 2013 to early 2014 so why would they not have latest gpus?
Because then it will cost too much.
Sajuuk Khar
08-20-2012, 13:09
No...the 560Ti costs $300 and the 7850 costs $450 :confused:
Because then it will cost too much.
(potentially going off topic :P ) $450 for a 7850? Im in Australia where we get seriously gouged for hardware prices and a 7850 is going for around $250. Seeing as a percentage of that price is more than just the chip it self (packaging, shipping and pc specific requirements) Could potentially see a 7850, or something close to it, in a console environment.
gangsta_795
08-20-2012, 13:32
(potentially going off topic :P ) $450 for a 7850? Im in Australia where we get seriously gouged for hardware prices and a 7850 is going for around $250. Seeing as a percentage of that price is more than just the chip it self (packaging, shipping and pc specific requirements) Could potentially see a 7850, or something close to it, in a console environment.
Oh right. Sorry about that; I seem to be misinformed. My bad.
itachi73378
08-20-2012, 15:52
7850 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=7850&x=0&y=0)
560 Ti (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=560ti&x=0&y=0)
7850 is cheaper than 560ti lol
gangsta_795
08-20-2012, 15:57
7850 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=7850&x=0&y=0)
560 Ti (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=560ti&x=0&y=0)
7850 is cheaper than 560ti lol
Oh right. Sorry about that; I seem to be misinformed. My bad.
i would be really happy if PS4 games looked like that but frist gention ps4 games wont look that good
No...the 560Ti costs $300 and the 7850 costs $450 :confused:
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/jules/amd-cuts-prices-on-high-end-cards-to-tackle-nvidia/
1GB 7850 down $40 to $190
2GB 7850 also drops $40 to $210
2GB 7870 down $50 to $250
3GB 7950 down $30 to $320
You are way in the past with those prices, not even at launch this 7850 cost so much!
JustinPinter
10-20-2012, 16:36
Amazing to see how far the detail in video-game visuals has come in the last decade. If first gen games on the engine will look like that, imagine what will be possible once developers have a grasp on the tools.
itachi73378
10-20-2012, 18:06
That toad is the pinnacle of real time graphics
i expect PS4 games to look like this and a little better
I can only hope this is used as much as the Unreal Engine was this gen. Not really sure what else we can ask for out of videogame graphics next gen.
PlaystationGuru
11-21-2012, 02:03
I would like graphical enhancements. The PS3 shows good graphics and all but I think there is always room for improvement.
jlippone
11-23-2012, 16:54
I can only hope this is used as much as the Unreal Engine was this gen. Not really sure what else we can ask for out of videogame graphics next gen.
I certainly would love to see the CryEngine4 currently on development.
We haven't yet seen the best CE has to offer.
PlaystationGuru
11-30-2012, 17:43
Yeah if you are expecting a console to cost as much as your good computer then you will get the best graphics.
If not though expect a minor upgrade of the graphics that are currently there and for it to also play DVDs lol.
itachi73378
11-30-2012, 18:30
Yeah if you are expecting a console to cost as much as your good computer then you will get the best graphics.
If not though expect a minor upgrade of the graphics that are currently there and for it to also play DVDs lol.
Nope, this will be the first wave of ps4 games that will look like this. Late next gen we may be reaching Agni's philosophy graphics
jlippone
12-03-2012, 13:53
Nope, this will be the first wave of ps4 games that will look like this. Late next gen we may be reaching Agni's philosophy graphics
I'm sure that the games will surpass Agni and surprisingly early.
Agni does use resources for some silly things due to the nature of it's CGI roots. (IE. characters having toes even though they are wearing boots.)
Agni also uses pre-baked lighting and other standard things allowing it to be good looking without using silly amount of resources for ambient lighting.
Demo ran on single gtx680 at around 30-60fps depending on scene.
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgame.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fn ews%2F20121129_575412.html&act=url
itachi73378
12-03-2012, 14:24
With the amounts of polys Agni is pushing, real time Global illumination would be killer for even 680
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/img/gmw/docs/575/412/30.jpg
jlippone
12-03-2012, 14:44
With the amounts of polys Agni is pushing, real time Global illumination would be killer for even 680The main calculation on the lighting is already done on offline server farm, actual runtime component isn't bad. (some SE papers (http://www.jp.square-enix.com/info/library/) on subject.)
There are plenty of games which use spherical harmonics lightmaps with irradiance volumes for dynamic objects. (IE. halo3 uses SH lightmaps (http://www.bungie.net/inside/publications.aspx).)
Irradiance volumes are used for dynamic objects even on phone games as it is quite cheap.
The UE4 cone tracing (http://www.unrealengine.com/files/misc/The_Technology_Behind_the_Elemental_Demo_16x9_%282 %29.pdf) is lot more demanding GI method.
edit:
Ups, didn't notice the poly thing.
The polycount isn't really a problem with most realtime GI methods as they usually change the scene presentation into something else.
Battlefield 3 (http://www.slideshare.net/drandom/lighting-you-up-in-battlefield-3-8020017#btnNext) uses simplified scene presentation and precomputed light transfer information for GI.
Voxel cone tracing (http://blog.icare3d.org/2012/05/gtc-2012-talk-octree-based-sparse.html) uses just in time created voxel presentation so polygon density and such doesn't really matter.
Crysis light propagation volumes (http://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww6.incrysis.com%2FLight_Propaga tion_Volumes.pdf&ei=qby8UN3VDafV4QSEqIDABg&usg=AFQjCNFVxfP30PKyKRgElDSi3nPQsdyk5w&sig2=D1OGeZwrYTi5xcLkmF1W1w) which are also pretty much scene detail independent.
If only we could see the same level of the first Killzone CGI trailer in 2005 on the PS4, i would be really happy.
If only we could see the same level of the first Killzone CGI trailer in 2005 on the PS4, i would be really happy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4HNmuEAKg
If you look at this trailer today it's really not that impressive. The only thing the would still raise some eye brows is the smoke and probably fire effects. Lighting too, gives it that feel of pre rendered. Everything else though, is pretty meh. What you've seen in that trailer will easily be surpassed next generation.
I mean, even the first ingame killzone 2 trailer looked pretty close to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEOFvsOFhJM . Now imagine what next gen technology will bring to the table ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4HNmuEAKg
If you look at this trailer today it's really not that impressive. The only thing the would still raise some eye brows is the smoke and probably fire effects. Lighting too, gives it that feel of pre rendered. Everything else though, is pretty meh. What you've seen in that trailer will easily be surpassed next generation.
I mean, even the first ingame killzone 2 trailer looked pretty close to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEOFvsOFhJM . Now imagine what next gen technology will bring to the table ^_^
look how fluid the 2005 CGI trailer looked, now look at any game right now, you won't see a single game with the same fluidity of that CGI trailer. Particle, light effects, fire, smoke, animation & characters, nothing even comes close to that right now.
itachi73378
12-03-2012, 20:18
2005 demo looks ugly as hell by today's standards
KZ3 more than matched that demo. Ofcourse some effects are impossible to be done in realtime on ps3 like the ones shown in the demo
thesuperfunk
12-03-2012, 20:44
Anybody get the feeling a Battletoads resurrection is going to take the next-gen by storm? ... me either ;)
With the amounts of polys Agni is pushing, real time Global illumination would be killer for even 680
Thtas why SLI exists :)
SHAZZMAZZ
12-04-2012, 00:57
Has anyone notice that when a new console came out the first few games that come out for it the graphics look awesome, then the games after that dont look as good
or is it just me
itachi73378
12-04-2012, 01:18
Has anyone notice that when a new console came out the first few games that come out for it the graphics look awesome, then the games after that dont look as good
or is it just me
Actually your're wrong. The first few games have graphics the same as the last console. The ones that come after continue to improve graphics.
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/346/c/7/uncharted_1_vs_uncharted_2_by_gtone339-d34pqrk.jpg
SHAZZMAZZ
12-04-2012, 01:26
Actually your're wrong. The first few games have graphics the same as the last console. The ones that come after continue to improve graphics.
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/346/c/7/uncharted_1_vs_uncharted_2_by_gtone339-d34pqrk.jpg
Ok it looks like its just me
look how fluid the 2005 CGI trailer looked, now look at any game right now, you won't see a single game with the same fluidity of that CGI trailer. Particle, light effects, fire, smoke, animation & characters, nothing even comes close to that right now.
Of course it looks fluid, it's a trailer, everything is controlled :))
Take KZ3 engine and remake this trailer and i bet it will look better in everything except for particles (fire, smoke etc.).
JustinPinter
12-31-2012, 21:41
This is why PC is king till the next platforms are out.
This is why PC is king till the next platforms are out.
Lol, next gen for consoles will probably be as powerful as a good average gaming PC is today, probably close to a top end pc.
I think most people are expecting too much for next gen in terms of power.
itachi73378
12-31-2012, 23:41
Lol, next gen for consoles will probably be as powerful as a good average gaming PC is today, probably close to a top end pc.
I think most people are expecting too much for next gen in terms of power.
some are and some aren't.
A dev over at gaf was saying how there are seriously low expectations of next gen consoles from people which is totally wrong.
You can count and compare numbers all day but the point is that the final 'visual' benchmark will be great no matter the specs seeing as how good current games look
Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone, but I was always under the impression that PCs have more headroom for taking advantage of the technology of the times and staying with it as it advances since PCs can be upgraded under the hood. Any given console is much more limited in that it is closed hardware and more retail price-sensitive.
There is no reason that I can see that would make that change next generation. Or am I missing something?
Ok it looks like its just me
Well, videogame generations are notorious for having bad-looking first-year games when compared to the titles that release later on in the generation. Developers always find better solutions as they get more comfortable with the development kits (i.e., Graphics improve over time within each gen, making launch games look the worst).
I think you just have raised expectations in visuals as the generation lingers on, making you less impressed after the first year...because technically speaking, the best-looking recent games ought to be looking better than, say, the best-looking launch games.
New cry engine 3 presentation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmCvHel7PL8
itachi73378
01-28-2013, 16:55
New cry engine 3 presentation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmCvHel7PL8
watched it yesterday on gaf. Good stuff
Zswordsman
01-29-2013, 02:39
The RSX was a piece of crap even at launch, using old pipeline technology and low end cheap memory interface.
I think Sony has learned from PS3 hardware though and will place more emphasis on the GPU this time and use a more cost effective cpu.
I would expect next gen to do this sort of graphics at the least.
Daaang. this guy predicted the future! well at least according to all the rumors going around right now.