View Full Version : Far Cry Wii images - Better but COME THE $#C& ON UBISOFT
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Looking better but Please these games do not look NEARLY as good as Red Steel or anything else on the Wii. Rushed yes IM sure but come on improve this over the PS2 version of Red Steel at least..
While the last image looks pretty good its #1 not in widescreen and #2 I think it looks like a PC computer image not an actually gameplay images.
narutoboy
10-16-2006, 16:22
Lol, i'm sorry but I think the quality went down a little. Now it looks worse then a psp game. The game is really reminding me of my old n64 gaming days. I'm sure it'll be a good game since the one for xbox was, but the graphics are a mess.
That looks absolutely horrible.
The only good thing are the bloom effects.
Carambole
10-16-2006, 17:22
it looks like 16bit mega drive.
YamNivek
10-16-2006, 17:32
Lol, i'm sorry but I think the quality went down a little. Now it looks worse then a psp game. The game is really reminding me of my old n64 gaming days. I'm sure it'll be a good game since the one for xbox was, but the graphics are a mess.
My god, you either have a good sense of sarcasm, or the sense of Helen Keller.
Goldeneye, N64
http://www.thunderbolt.be/reviews/n64/goldeneye.jpg
http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/games/n64/goldeneye/goldeneye_003.jpg
http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/n64/goldeneye/2.jpg
http://www.thunderbolt.be/reviews/n64/goldeneye_3.jpg
narutoboy
10-16-2006, 17:45
My god, you either have a good sense of sarcasm, or the sense of Helen Keller.
Goldeneye, N64
http://www.thunderbolt.be/reviews/n64/goldeneye.jpg
http://www.gamerevolution.com/images/games/n64/goldeneye/goldeneye_003.jpg
http://www.gaming-age.com/reviews/archive/old_reviews/n64/goldeneye/2.jpg
http://www.thunderbolt.be/reviews/n64/goldeneye_3.jpg
Nope, I'm serious. I didn't say they looked the same or it didn't look better, I said it reminded me of those days. Mainly the blockyness of the characters and the horrible character modeling. Starwars rogue squadron and turok for n64 could actually give this game a run for its money, ha.
Red Steel completely erased my worries about the Wii's power.
I thought the Wii was more powerful than the Xbox...
What is this?
Carambole
10-16-2006, 19:03
yeah but they really maxed wiis gpu for red steel. red steel is as good as it will ever get.
yeah but they really maxed wiis gpu for red steel. red steel is as good as it will ever get.
Seriously I doubt that. Look at SUper Mario Galaxy and once developers get used to the Wii they will be getting better performance and tools for the console. These are rushed Launch titles so there is MORE development in the game themselves than digging deep into the GPU.
Lessons learned from launch will help other developers in the future.
Knuckles126
10-16-2006, 19:21
LMAO!
Damn that first pic, look at the AK47...it looks like something from N64!!
SolidSnakeUS
10-16-2006, 19:29
They still don't look terrible, but from what some people said about Red Steel, I feel that they can really do better than that, they showed that kind of potential later in the Gamecube with Resident Evil 4, which is probably the prettiest or near-best-looking GC game ever. So I feel that they can still extract more power of the system than what we are seeing.
Ubisoft CAN and SHOULD be able to do better than that, even with current-gen hardware.
Mr. Solanky
10-16-2006, 21:51
Ubisoft can do better. Red Steel and Ray-Man look amazing, but this looks sloppy and rushed.
Looks better, however still not great..
Mika Mo 25
10-16-2006, 22:55
U-G-L-Y...that is a disgrace.
Scotracer
10-17-2006, 00:26
Now, what are Ubisoft...the hardware of the Wii CAN and SHOULD allow better looking games than this. Looks better than original pics but it wains significantly compared with even the Xbox version of FarCry: Instincts.
WarshadowFH
10-17-2006, 01:01
Far cry went downhill once it come on consoles far cry pc is teh best
Stewie Skywalker
10-17-2006, 01:23
Ubisoft=New EA I think so.
Red Steel cost 12 million dollars to make, more than Gears of War (ignoring the cost of UE3, but you get the idea: Red Steel isn't cheap). Obviously there's more to costs than just utilizing more power. Trying to tap out the remaining power of a weak system is gonna eat a lot of money. So everyone who's pointing that Red Steel is the benchmark need to realize that it's also as expensive as any real next-gen game, and most Wii developers would never aim that high. Get use to games like Far Cry, because once you've abandoned graphically power, you will abandon it completely due to economic pressure.
Get use to games like Far Cry, because once you've abandoned graphically power, you will abandon it completely due to economic pressure.
God the ignorance around here.
Do you even look at TP which is originally a GC game and not fully utilized for the Wii and tell me that it doesn't look ****ing awsome. It has been already a common thing that the Wii is the cheapest to program for, but more complicated because of the Wiimote. Though now with the AiLive software, it just got easier.
Whats this about since the Wii doesn't have the graphical power all the graphics whores want, like crack, that any later version won't? Ninty has already stated that the next console will have all the bells and whistles we see now plus more, that is workign with the development of new tech. So your completly wrong there.
I won't argue the fact that the far cry shots arn't teh greatest. They look decent and they work. I know we will see better. Remember these are fist gen games. It only gets better from here. And then before any of the other companies, hopefully Ninty will bring out another console combineing high res graphics when the general public will have the tvs to use it on and the Wiimote2.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 02:31
God the ignorance around here.
Do you even look at TP which is originally a GC game and not fully utilized for the Wii and tell me that it doesn't look ****ing awsome. It has been already a common thing that the Wii is the cheapest to program for, but more complicated because of the Wiimote. Though now with the AiLive software, it just got easier.
Whats this about since the Wii doesn't have the graphical power all the graphics whores want, like crack, that any later version won't? ;b'Ninty has already stated that the next console will have all the bells and whistles we see now plus more, that is workign with the development of new tech.[/b] So your completly wrong there.
I won't argue the fact that the far cry shots arn't teh greatest. They look decent and they work. I know we will see better. Remember these are fist gen games. It only gets better from here. And then before any of the other companies, hopefully Ninty will bring out another console combineing high res graphics when the general public will have the tvs to use it on and the Wiimote2.
Care to link to that or are you just making up stuff, i'll go with the latter until you show me a direct quote from a Nintendo employee or affiliate. Anyways, why would they do that when Nintendo's philosophy goes against adding all these features and Nintendopes never stop talking about how Nintendo's not about that stuff. Yes, they look decent for late n64 but for a console that supposedly has the exact same power as the original xbox, not so.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p7.html
Fifth question
Nintendo's leaders have indicated that high-definition graphics are the future. But unlike Sony and Microsoft, which believe that the "HD era" has begun, the Big N asserts that widespread HD adoption will take years. The company's successor to Wii will support high-definition visuals.
I just always love when you remove the one thing all the hatered toward the Wii is about....just goes to show hypocrisy. If Sony or MS had the Wiimote it would be much more accepted. LOL
So its funny......When the next gen after this Ninty only needs to improve the already awsome Wiimote....They would by that time already have estabilished their new dominance in the market....Because when that time comes where as Sony and MS be? Slightly better graphics? Then what? The only logical route is a version of the Wiimote. I think Ninty got this one right finally.....
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 03:16
http://wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464p7.html
Fifth question
Need I find another one possibly?
Nope, that'll do. Now that I think about it, it does make sense since Nintendo's always two or three steps behind in power and graphics. I suspect their next console to be the equivelent to Xbox 360, while the other consoles are in another realm of technological prowess.
Lol, i'm not buying your logic. There are other things to be done besides a wiimote type function. When the time comes when graphics can't improve, they'll improve in other areas, that doesnt mean they'll take the wii approach.
cx1(dcfan)
10-17-2006, 03:20
Care to link to that or are you just making up stuff, i'll go with the latter until you show me a direct quote from a Nintendo employee or affiliate. Anyways, why would they do that when Nintendo's philosophy goes against adding all these features and Nintendopes never stop talking about how Nintendo's not about that stuff. Yes, they look decent for late n64 but for a console that supposedly has the exact same power as the original xbox, not so.
Im sorry but you are completely wrong. Nintendo has never released a console that was underpowered up until this point.
The wii is also more powerful than the xbox, this has been stated by developers, many developers, and I can get you a quote from ubisoft if you would like proof. Specs wise the two look similar, but the architecture is completely different.
Not to say the wii will be super powerful, but it will be able to put out games that graphically are superior to anything released current gen.
on topic though, who really expected a port of an xbox game to look good? The xbox game did not look nearly as good as the bullshots posted in most places would lead you to believe. Still this game looks worse which is a little disappointing.
Then again who here was going to buy it anyway?
I'm not saying they will make somthing that looks like the Wiimote. But the same basic function will be the same. One-One 3D representation control. The Wiimote has it, but it could be improved upon.
but on topic:
There will be some games that look like crap and others that look great. Especially at the beginning of a new consoles life. Thats just how it goes for everyone. But if the game is fun to play, the graphics can be overlooked almost everytime. We'll see how it goes.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 03:32
Im sorry but you are completely wrong. Nintendo has never released a console that was underpowered up until this point.
The wii is also more powerful than the xbox, this has been stated by developers many developers and I can get you a quote from ubisoft if you would like proof. Specs wise the two look similar, but the architecture is completely different.
Not to say the wii will be super powerful, but it will be able to put out games that graphically are superior to anything released current gen.
on topic though, who really expected a port of an xbox game to look good? The xbox game did not look nearly as good as the bullshots posted in most places would lead you to believe. Still this game looks worse which is a little disappointing.
Then again who here was going to buy it anyway?
I'm guessing you're referring to my other post because this one you quoted doesn't say anything about that. Actually, there nes and snes consoles were underpowered compared to the competition and the gamecube did have more power then the Playstation 2 i've heard, but barely any games showed that. I know that devs have said it is more powerful then the Xbox, but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though.
I'm not saying they will make somthing that looks like the Wiimote. But the same basic function will be the same. One-One 3D representation control. The Wiimote has it, but it could be improved upon.
Nope, I don't think that's so. I'm sure that the minds of the gaming world can create newer and even more ingenious ideas outside of motion powered gaming. I have a couple ideas myself. Smellavision in games (I heard someone has already built technology for this), games powered by your brain :O, systems that update weather and information based on what's going on in real life, etc. There are so many possibilities for the future of gaming it isn't even funny.
Smellavision in games (I heard someone has already built technology for this), games powered by your brain :O, systems that update weather and information based on what's going on in real life, etc. There are so many possibilities for the future of gaming it isn't even funny.
I've heard of the Smellavision i beleive also before. I'd steer clear of that personally.....LOL
Update weather info....I call that the Weather Channel on the Wii.......
Powered by our brain.....I sure hope so one day......We already are developing the tech for it now. They have monkeys brains hooked to computers and can do basic tasks just by thinking it. The one good thing about our magazine isle at work. I read a lot of tech/science mags...
I'm guessing for the next gen there is a good chance that we will get a visor from some one. One that will allow you to move your head around and actually look around. Combined with a version of the Wiimote.....That would be one ****ing awsome game system...
But anyways, any responses will be seen in the morn. I"m off to bed. Have to work at 7am.
future of gaming it isn't even funny.
Well....I'm the type of person that can find humor in almost anything....nomatter how horrible or taboo it might be...LOL
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 03:47
I've heard of the Smellavision i beleive also before. I'd steer clear of that personally.....LOL
Update weather info....I call that the Weather Channel on the Wii.......
Powered by our brain.....I sure hope so one day......We already are developing the tech for it now. They have monkeys brains hooked to computers and can do basic tasks just by thinking it.
I'm guessing for the next gen there is a good chance that we will get a visor from some one. One that will allow you to move your head around and actually look around. Combined with a version of the Wiimote.....That would be one ****ing awsome game system...
Well....I'm the type of person that can find humor in almost anything....nomatter how horrible or taboo it might be...LOL
Lol, well, I would love the smellavision for rpg's where they have alot of beautiful levels or in food oriented games. I might just be weird, but I find myself wanted to smell stuff in games :D, I guess it would make it more immersive and make you feel like you're actually there. By updating with weather, season, time, and other info, I meant actually in game. For example, like in rpg/adventure type games, the weather or whatever could change with what is happening in the place your at, like if it's snowing where you live, it'll snow in the game or if it's raining, it'll rain their to. The last part you talked about would be very awesome and I do hope gaming takes some of these innovative paths some day.
cx1(dcfan)
10-17-2006, 03:48
I'm guessing you're referring to my other post because this one you quoted doesn't say anything about that. Actually, there nes and snes consoles were underpowered compared to the competition and the gamecube did have more power then the Playstation 2 i've heard, but barely any games showed that. I know that devs have said it is more powerful then the Xbox, but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though.
Yes I am reffering to your post you made after mine, I obviously know exactly what you will post before you do (joking although it wouldnt be hard given you have about 3 posts repeated constantly).
No I quoted the correct post, reread what you said in response to ziktur.
The N64 was more powerful than the PSX or saturn. I am not exactly sure whether the genesis was more powerful than the snes but either way my point is valid. They have not in 2 generations released hardware underpowered to their competition. Oh and im glad you've heard that the GC is more powerful than the PS2, but why should it matter if only a few games used that power? That automatically decreases the specs and makes your point valid again?
Im also glad my dreamcast (still my favorite console) can output graphics that are in Mario galaxy, Red Steel, and pokemon revolution. Man that thing must have been really underutilized huh?
Honestly narutoboy, why do you even come into this section of the forums? Since you are Nintendo's target audience (or so you say), why dont you let us know what they need to do differently to sell the console to a 15 year old? More kiddy games perhaps?
Appolyons
10-17-2006, 03:50
Can anyone else see the shots? I know I cant.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 04:02
Yes I am reffering to your post you made after mine, I obviously know exactly what you will post before you do (joking although it wouldnt be hard given you have about 3 posts repeated constantly).
No I quoted the correct post, reread what you said in response to ziktur.
The N64 was more powerful than the PSX or saturn. I am not exactly sure whether the genesis was more powerful than the snes but either way my point is valid. They have not in 2 generations released hardware underpowered to their competition. Oh and im glad you've heard that the GC is more powerful than the PS2, but why should it matter if only a few games used that power? That automatically decreases the specs and makes your point valid again?
Im also glad my dreamcast (still my favorite console) can output graphics that are in Mario galaxy, Red Steel, and pokemon revolution. Man that thing must have been really underutilized huh?
Honestly narutoboy, why do you even come into this section of the forums? Since you are Nintendo's target audience (or so you say), why dont you let us know what they need to do differently to sell the console to a 15 year old? More kiddy games perhaps?
I was including features and graphics and their current philosophy as of now, is to disregard graphics/power and to focus on gameplay. How can you deny this when they've said it like a thousand times, which is why I found it weird for them to say that about their console coming after the wii. Yes, the genesis was much more powerful then the snes. I'm not going to repeatedly explain why I come to this section, it's been done to death by now. If you really want to know look back at the millions of posts asking me the exact same thing and look at what I say. Ok, here is what Nintendo needs to do to make me happy then i'll respect them more. They need to focus on power and gameplay, i like both, and they need to put more features into their console and stop stripping good features to end up making them accessories. Also, they need to have a larger variety of games, not just kiddy. I know they're making some attempts at changing this, but I need to see some more effort coming from Nintendo. The launch list kind of made me re-think the whole thing about them mixing up their game library, because I see the same kiddy games we saw on all of their other consoles. Oh, and I want them to stop milking some of these characters and make some new series (notice how I never said they should stop making these milked series, I just want them to make more along side their past established games). That is all I want from Nintendo, then i'll be cool.
On topic:
What was ubisoft thinking when they were doing the games graphics? Either they're an embarrasment or that's all they could do with wii. I'm going to go with them being an embarrasment seeing as red steel at least looks like dreamcast, so I know wii can look better then this.
pendinginsanity
10-17-2006, 04:02
You gotta be kiddin me?
The enemy characters looks like sprites when they're more than 10 feet away.
Lollergasm, next-gen here I come :lol:
Btw some people got shizzle wrong.
The PSX was the PS2 with harddrive and dvd-recorder.
cx1(dcfan)
10-17-2006, 04:12
I was including features and graphics and their current philosophy as of now, is to disregard graphics/power and to focus on gameplay. How can you deny this when they've said it like a thousand times, which is why I found it weird for them to say that about their console coming after the wii. Yes, the genesis was much more powerful then the snes. I'm not going to repeatedly explain why I come to this section, it's been done to death by now. If you really want to know look back at the millions of posts asking me the exact same thing and look at what I say. Ok, here is what Nintendo needs to do to make me happy then i'll respect them more. They need to focus on power and gameplay, i like both, and they need to put more features into their console and stop stripping good features to end up making them accessories. Also, they need to have a larger variety of games, not just kiddy. I know they're making some attempts at changing this, but I need to see some more effort coming from Nintendo. The launch list kind of made me re-think the whole thing about them mixing up their game library, because I see the same kiddy games we saw on all of their other consoles. Oh, and I want them to stop milking some of these characters and make some new series (notice how I never said they should stop making these milked series, I just want them to make more along side their past established games). That is all I want from Nintendo, then i'll be cool.
I was joking about the what does nintendo need to do to make you happy.
Anyway the SNES was not infact underpowered compared to the genesis. While it is true that the genesis boasted the better processor, the snes had a dedicated sound chip, and a far larger color pallet making the games look far superior.
also im not denying that they are focusing on gameplay this time around, but the system is infact more powerful than the xbox and I was responding to "Now that I think about it, it does make sense since Nintendo's always two or three steps behind in power and graphics." <-- that extremely insightful quote.
Honestly, you can come in here and post if you want. And I dont really care why you do, it's just that you post the same things over and over and you say things that are untrue and when people call you on it, you change the subject. You say the wii hasnt shown anything better than a dreamcast game. Then you completely abandon what you say and move on when its obviously not true. I have seen you make the same point, that has been refuted btw, over and over and it's just a little bit tiring. This is I dont know what thread number where you've said the same things.
We know you arent happy with nintendo, but they are making plenty of money with their current strategy. It doesnt need to be changed since it works, you know what you are getting with a wii. There is no real sense to change what that is, when it is already a success from nintendo's perspective.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 04:23
I was joking about the what does nintendo need to do to make you happy.
Anyway the SNES was not infact underpowered compared to the genesis. While it is true that the genesis boasted the better processor, the snes had a dedicated sound chip, and a far larger color pallet making the games look far superior.
also im not denying that they are focusing on gameplay this time around, but the system is infact more powerful than the xbox and I was responding to "Now that I think about it, it does make sense since Nintendo's always two or three steps behind in power and graphics." <-- that extremely insightful quote.
Honestly, you can come in here and post if you want. And I dont really care why you do, it's just that you post the same things over and over and you say things that are untrue and when people call you on it, you change the subject. You say the wii hasnt shown anything better than a dreamcast game. Then you completely abandon what you say and move on when its obviously not true. I have seen you make the same point, that has been refuted btw, over and over and it's just a little bit tiring. This is I dont know what thread number where you've said the same things.
We know you arent happy with nintendo, but they are making plenty of money with their current strategy. It doesnt need to be changed since it works, you know what you are getting with a wii. There is no real sense to change what that is when it is already a success from nintendo's perspective.
You may have been joking, but I answered, so you'll have that answer to turn to for further reference. I beg to differ about snes not being underpowered compared to genesis and snes games looking better then genesis games. I'll take back the comment you quoted because i'm obviously wrong about that. What are you talking about? Yes, I just said they haven't shown anything better then a dreamcast game and no one called me on it yet. I never abandoned that comment, I made another comment on something else, that's what people do unless someone responds to that same comment.
Knuckles126
10-17-2006, 04:24
Nope, that'll do. Now that I think about it, it does make sense since Nintendo's always two or three steps behind in power and graphics. I suspect their next console to be the equivelent to Xbox 360, while the other consoles are in another realm of technological prowess.
Lol, i'm not buying your logic. There are other things to be done besides a wiimote type function. When the time comes when graphics can't improve, they'll improve in other areas, that doesnt mean they'll take the wii approach.
For once, I actually agree with you.
cx1(dcfan)
10-17-2006, 04:34
You may have been joking, but I answered, so you'll have that answer to turn to for further reference. I beg to differ about snes not being underpowered compared to genesis and snes games looking better then genesis games. I'll take back the comment you quoted because i'm obviously wrong about that. What are you talking about? Yes, I just said they haven't shown anything better then a dreamcast game and no one called me on it yet. I never abandoned that comment, I made another comment on something else, that's what people do unless someone responds to that same comment.
I already called you on the dreamcast thing (my post before the last one), show me a dreamcast game in the same genre that looks as good or better than mario galaxy/red steel/pokemon revolution. (I have quite an extensive collection of dc games and I can tell you none look nearly as good as those 3 mentioned above)
I also responded to your comment of what they need to do to convince you to buy the system. It doesnt matter, they already are making money. Sony posted losses this quarter for their games division, microsoft is in a gigantic hole, Nintendo is doing fine. I know there are things I would like nintendo to do but im also smart enough to know that implementing my ideas wont necessarily make them more profitable.
You can beg to differ all you want on the snes, doesnt mean you are correct. Find an unbiased hardware discussion of the two systems, you will find that what i've said is completely true.
Im glad you've taken back your nintendo always produces underpowered systems idea, 1 down a few more of the other stupid things you've said to go.
i'd post on topic but why, there was a thread just like this when the first batch of far cry screens were released. We all know the game looks horrible, end of story.
For once, I actually agree with you.
excellent I have a 2 for 1 special today for people who constantly post misinforumation in this section of the forums
Wii gamers should boycott this disgrace of a game...
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 04:54
I already called you on the dreamcast thing (my post before the last one), show me a dreamcast game in the same genre that looks as good or better than mario galaxy/red steel/pokemon revolution. (I have quite an extensive collection of dc games and I can tell you none look nearly as good as those 3 mentioned above)
I also responded to your comment of what they need to do to convince you to buy the system. It doesnt matter, they already are making money. Sony posted losses this quarter for their games division, microsoft is in a gigantic hole, Nintendo is doing fine. I know there are things I would like nintendo to do but im also smart enough to know that implementing my ideas wont necessarily make them more profitable.
You can beg to differ all you want on the snes, doesnt mean you are correct. Find an unbiased hardware discussion of the two systems, you will find that what i've said is completely true.
Im glad you've taken back your nintendo always produces underpowered systems idea, 1 down a few more of the other stupid things you've said to go.
i'd post on topic but why, there was a thread just like this when the first batch of far cry screens were released. We all know the game looks horrible, end of story.
excellent I have a 2 for 1 special today for people who constantly post misinforumation in this section of the forums
Ok, and if you don’t believe me check out Dead or Alive 2, Air Force Delta, Crazy taxi 2, and Nba 2k1. Alot of them don’t look any better then Dreamcast and some of the games blockiness and poor modeling reminds me of n64. Take the “water” for example in that far cry pic, it looks like glass :|. Sheesh, don't take my dreamcast and n64 comment so literally, most of us know that the games look better then that, but from what i've seen they look so horrible that I associate those games with the horrible graphics we saw on the dreamcast. It doesn't mean you're correct either. I'm not going to waste time tonight scowering the internet to settle a known disagreement on which console was underpowered compared to the other. I don't really care if they're making money......:|, I care if they are satisfying me as a potentional customer and whether or not they're making profit on the choices being made doesn't even phase me. Yes, they are profiting but in the console business it's obvious that their technique isn't working going off sales of the gamecube. You see, that's the thing right there, Sony can stay a float from other divisions and still fulfill our needs and wants, Nintendo can't really do that since they rely on the gaming division alone. They strip out all of these other features to profit even more off of accessories. You're right, that's good for them but the consumer who wants those things are left in the dust. Ha, you sound pretty angered, try to mellow down and act civilized. It's not all about proving someone wrong all the time and if you recieve enjoyment from thinking (yes I said "thinking") you've proven someone wrong on the internet, well, you have even deeper issues then I would've guest. What kind of loser says something like this "excellent I have a 2 for 1 special today for people who constantly post misinforumation in this section of the forums". The game looks like crap, we know it, you know and you even said so, so don't get your panties in a bunch when people exaggerate when they say the games coming out on wii look like psp games, n64 games, or dreamcast games, because most remind us of these things so we associate those back to another low powered console and some actually do look exactly like these things.
Oh, and since you're probably too lazy to do what I suggested about finding out why I post here, i'll tell you right now. I post here because I have some interest in Nintendo's new system and i've shown that many times. Pretty easy explanation, huh?
cx1(dcfan)
10-17-2006, 07:00
Ok, and if you don’t believe me check out Dead or Alive 2, Air Force Delta, Crazy taxi 2, and Nba 2k1. Alot of them don’t look any better then Dreamcast and some of the games blockiness and poor modeling reminds me of n64. Take the “water” for example in that far cry pic, it looks like glass :|. Sheesh, don't take my dreamcast and n64 comment so literally, most of us know that the games look better then that, but from what i've seen they look so horrible that I associate those games with the horrible graphics we saw on the dreamcast. It doesn't mean you're correct either. I'm not going to waste time tonight scowering the internet to settle a known disagreement on which console was underpowered compared to the other. I don't really care if they're making money......:|, I care if they are satisfying me as a potentional customer and whether or not they're making profit on the choices being made doesn't even phase me. Yes, they are profiting but in the console business it's obvious that their technique isn't working going off sales of the gamecube. You see, that's the thing right there, Sony can stay a float from other divisions and still fulfill our needs and wants, Nintendo can't really do that since they rely on the gaming division alone. They strip out all of these other features to profit even more off of accessories. You're right, that's good for them but the consumer who wants those things are left in the dust. Ha, you sound pretty angered, try to mellow down and act civilized. It's not all about proving someone wrong all the time and if you recieve enjoyment from thinking (yes I said "thinking") you've proven someone wrong on the internet, well, you have even deeper issues then I would've guest. What kind of loser says something like this "excellent I have a 2 for 1 special today for people who constantly post misinforumation in this section of the forums". The game looks like crap, we know it, you know and you even said so, so don't get your panties in a bunch when people exaggerate when they say the games coming out on wii look like psp games, n64 games, or dreamcast games, because most remind us of these things so we associate those back to another low powered console and some actually do look exactly like these things.
Oh, and since you're probably too lazy to do what I suggested about finding out why I post here, i'll tell you right now. I post here because I have some interest in Nintendo's new system and i've shown that many times. Pretty easy explanation, huh?
I own all of those dreamcast games, sans airforce delta. Dead or Alive 2 was probubly one of the prettier fighting games out for the dreamcast (I still believe SC edged it out but w.e). It is still not anywhere near as good as the (not yet final) screens of Pokemon revolution. I also asked for games of comparable genres to Mario Galaxy, Red steel and pokemon rev (although i'll give you doa v pokemon rev since it's sorta a fighting game). Still Excite truck looks far better than crazy taxi 2. NBA 2k1 looked good but what am I supposed to compare it to? madden isnt really the peak of wii performance. If your point is that there are games that look worse than these, then I dont think anyone disagrees.
But that is not what you said, and I quote "but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though." I know you've seen these other games, and it's obvious they are far better than anything on the dreamcast (comparing genre for genre) Want to compare Q3 arena or UT to Red steel graphically? (I grant you that both of those games were better than rs will probubly ever be but graphically it is not a contest).
There are games on every system at this point in its life that look bad. Xbox 360 has them, ps3 has one or two. Even the PS2 had them (I wont clutter this thread with another image so I will link). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/cx1/pstwolaunchug3.jpg
Those games for the dc you mentioned are simply not better looking than the best the wii has shown so far. So either, in making your statement, you have not seen such games or you have no monitor.
Again no one is saying this game doesnt look horrible, or that other games dont. It's that you cant say all wii games look horrible, when that is not true. That is really misleading. As i've said many times, lets just debate how bad these screenshots look without making comments about how the wii cant push out anything better, you say things like that constantly.
On a personal note, I dont get any satisfaction from disproving a kid on forums. Its not how I enjoy spending my time, on the other hand, I dont like it that you say the same incorrect things in every thread and no one says a thing. So here we are at this situation.
And its not that im too lazy to find out why you are here, it's that I dont care. If you buy a wii awesome, if not cool too. But the fact that you are interested in one doesnt give you the right to keep using hyperbole like this without people calling you on it. Im buying a PS3 but if I pulled the kind of crap you do here in the PS3 sections i'd probubly get bum rushed out of here.
tl;dr: Please stop making statements like "but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though." because we know there are games that are graphically superior to what you have mentioned, if you have not seen them that doesnt mean they do not exist.
::btw (edited in):: sony cant stay afloat on their other divisions, they all lose money. They have been in trouble in all divisions for awhile, the only one that has been pulling money for them is the gaming one which posted it's first loss last quarter. Nintendo making a profit matters because it means they will still be in this console race as long as they make money. Even if they keep having system sales on par with the gc, they can continue to put out systems until they get it right.
if you recieve enjoyment from thinking (yes I said "thinking") you've proven someone wrong on the internet, well, you have even deeper issues then I would've guest.
I'll take back the comment you quoted because i'm obviously wrong about that.
I actually did LOL when I seen these pics - look at old age pensioner hands in the last pic :lol:
Stoffinator
10-17-2006, 13:33
Looks like a High Res N64 game. :-S But as some of this coming gen games I notice allot do not look good in pictures but allot better in motion. So will have to check a video out of it. But so far, not so hot.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 15:15
I own all of those dreamcast games, sans airforce delta. Dead or Alive 2 was probubly one of the prettier fighting games out for the dreamcast (I still believe SC edged it out but w.e). It is still not anywhere near as good as the (not yet final) screens of Pokemon revolution. I also asked for games of comparable genres to Mario Galaxy, Red steel and pokemon rev (although i'll give you doa v pokemon rev since it's sorta a fighting game). Still Excite truck looks far better than crazy taxi 2. NBA 2k1 looked good but what am I supposed to compare it to? madden isnt really the peak of wii performance. If your point is that there are games that look worse than these, then I dont think anyone disagrees.
But that is not what you said, and I quote "but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though." I know you've seen these other games, and it's obvious they are far better than anything on the dreamcast (comparing genre for genre) Want to compare Q3 arena or UT to Red steel graphically? (I grant you that both of those games were better than rs will probubly ever be but graphically it is not a contest).
There are games on every system at this point in its life that look bad. Xbox 360 has them, ps3 has one or two. Even the PS2 had them (I wont clutter this thread with another image so I will link). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/cx1/pstwolaunchug3.jpg
Those games for the dc you mentioned are simply not better looking than the best the wii has shown so far. So either, in making your statement, you have not seen such games or you have no monitor.
Again no one is saying this game doesnt look horrible, or that other games dont. It's that you cant say all wii games look horrible, when that is not true. That is really misleading. As i've said many times, lets just debate how bad these screenshots look without making comments about how the wii cant push out anything better, you say things like that constantly.
On a personal note, I dont get any satisfaction from disproving a kid on forums. Its not how I enjoy spending my time, on the other hand, I dont like it that you say the same incorrect things in every thread and no one says a thing. So here we are at this situation.
And its not that im too lazy to find out why you are here, it's that I dont care. If you buy a wii awesome, if not cool too. But the fact that you are interested in one doesnt give you the right to keep using hyperbole like this without people calling you on it. Im buying a PS3 but if I pulled the kind of crap you do here in the PS3 sections i'd probubly get bum rushed out of here.
tl;dr: Please stop making statements like "but right now i've only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though." because we know there are games that are graphically superior to what you have mentioned, if you have not seen them that doesnt mean they do not exist.
::btw (edited in):: sony cant stay afloat on their other divisions, they all lose money. They have been in trouble in all divisions for awhile, the only one that has been pulling money for them is the gaming one which posted it's first loss last quarter. Nintendo making a profit matters because it means they will still be in this console race as long as they make money. Even if they keep having system sales on par with the gc, they can continue to put out systems until they get it right.
Ok, I've finally realized the problem you. You misunderstood that comment. I did say "but right now I’ve only seen the equivalent to psp, n64, and dreamcast at best, we'll see later on though.", but I said that because in your previous post you mentioned that ubisoft (the makers of farcry) said it had more power then the original xbox. I was speaking about one game, farcry, because you posted ubisoft as an example of devs who said it had more power then the Xbox, yet they have a game that looks like this. The other screen shot that was shown looks like a psp game/ a mix of n64 and these look like sort of dreamcast/n64 like. By "we'll see later on though", I meant when the game's complete. I wasn't showing you any games to be compared to pokemon, mario, etc, because I know all those games exceed anything that came out on those past systems. Again I was still speaking on the one game. So, i'm not going to argue about that and I never was, didn't mean to make it seem that way either. I've seen games like rayman raving rabbids, super mario galaxy, sonic and the secret rings, batallion wars 2, excite truck, the legend of zelda: twilight princess, and even elebits (lol), so I know they do have better looking games then those systems and I wasn't saying different. Oh, you don't care, huh? Well, you obvious cared enough to type out a question asking why I’m here wether you wanted to recieve an answer or not "Honestly narutoboy, why do you even come into this section of the forums?". I won't stop making statements like that, because they're true, but I’ll give you some advice, read over stuff so you don't misunderstand ;). Lol, the last part of what you said proves you don't have any knowledge on Sony. Their movie division is actually ranking in some heavy money, through movies like spiderman. I remember profits from the first spiderman were signifcantly higher then the 11 billion yen most people expected and the second spiderman brought even more to their pocket. Sony's electronics were sufferring for quite some time, but they've been gaining back the same popularity they had throughout the 80's and 90's. Like I said in my other post, I don't give a damn about Nintendo making profit if I’m not receiving the satisfaction I'm asking for. You keep spouting off about the same thing like it matters to me, it doesn't. I'm sure even a smaller company like Nintendo could find someway to profit and bring out features that a lot of people want at the same time. If they can't achieve this, well now you know why I moved on from Nintendo after I bought my first Playstation.
Riskbreaker
10-17-2006, 15:32
wow those screenshots look bad. i guess ubisoft only loves the 360
SolidSnakeUS
10-17-2006, 15:35
wow those screenshots look bad. i guess ubisoft only loves the 360
Rickbreaker, stop the hell right there, and please, no one respond to this, or else this thread will turn flamebait. Just ignore Riskbreaker's comment.
Appolyons
10-17-2006, 15:36
My computer must smoke crack at night because its not putting up any of those pics. Someone please tell me if this is just me.
narutoboy
10-17-2006, 15:40
My computer must smoke crack at night because its not putting up any of those pics. Someone please tell me if this is just me.
I guess it's just you because I can see them.
Appolyons
10-17-2006, 15:44
I believe you man, its just not showing up. I think my system loves me soooooo much that it doesnt want to show me those crap pics.
They look like the 2d arcade games where all you can do is fire and not move
SolidSnakeUS
10-17-2006, 17:16
Even if the graphics aren't the best, or at their best yet, I still feel that the game will be good, "you cannot judge a book by its cover."
NiftyScent
10-18-2006, 04:14
The graphics are look crummy, but those pictures are cropped so...
Even if the graphics aren't the best, I'm sure Wii games will be fun to play. You don't buy the Wii for graphics, you buy it for a revolutionary way to play video games. If you really wanted great looking graphics, go for the PS3, 360 or a PC.
I hope I can pick a Wii up on launch date without a pre-order.
not to bad for wii games.
they look as allmost as good as xbox 1 games
These ugly screenshots do not reflect inability of the Wii, but inability of the developers. Just don't buy Far Cry; problem solved.
Killller
10-21-2006, 21:21
I still say games look much better in motion than in screenshots..
not to bad for wii games.
they look as allmost as good as xbox 1 games
Seriously now.....
We KNOW that the Wii is more powerful than the Xbox1.
It all comes down to the devolpers liek people have said.
Though I'd like to add, NOT ALL ps3/360 games will have the same quality as the major named games. There are always bound to be the couple that don't quite make the cut. With that, the type of game and the style it was put in has to be a part of that equation....but with FC, it looks good but the Wii can do better. Again, its all the developers dept there.
NY_THING718
10-21-2006, 21:56
that looks horrible.........
First gen games, plus the Wii can offer better visuals than that.
I see the Sony mindless zombie fanboys are here too to have a go at anything Wii.
It's sad.
rycexboi
10-22-2006, 01:20
The graphic of this game looks like the turok game for ps2...
narutoboy
10-22-2006, 01:41
The graphic of this game looks like the turok game for ps2...
Turok is exactly what it reminded me of when I first saw them.
turkmen117
10-22-2006, 02:05
First gen games, plus the Wii can offer better visuals than that.
I see the Sony mindless zombie fanboys are here too to have a go at anything Wii.
It's sad.
you know...its funny.. i have never seen you call someone a MS fanboy or something else. Its always sony sony and sony
just two minutes ago i saw you say that in the Call of Duty 3 thread in the 360 section
anywhoo, i dont really understand people saying this is as good as Wii games will get. Obviously developers will be able to tap more power as time passes. I saw red steel today on a TV at EBgames and man it looks SOOOOO much ahead of this. Although i wouldnt call this a psp game this is definately not WII quality. this games graphics is.... a joke, nothing else
Zer0Force
10-22-2006, 05:34
First gen games, plus the Wii can offer better visuals than that.
I see the Sony mindless zombie fanboys are here too to have a go at anything Wii.
It's sad.
I guess MS fanboys cant say its ****ty, just Sony fanboys right?
I posted the wrong reply to the wrong thread. Fix this in a moment.
turkmen117,
Here we go, you obviously only look for posts where I have said something negitave about Sony, have I hit a nerve because in here I attacked a very wel known Sony fanboy? Look harder in the forums and look for the term "MS fanboys" and try again when you have something that stands, riught now you seem to only have been moved by my comments about COD3 because I said it looked better on the 360 and to me it does, sorry again if that hurts your feelings... That isn't funny.
Zer0Force,
as for you, that is not the case, MS zombies may say it's crappy also and I acknowledged that the Wii is capable of better visuals than that if you read my comment correctly.
Ms zombie fanboys did not post in here concerning the Wii unless of course you can spot a MS zombie fanboy that I could not.
Riskbreaker
10-22-2006, 19:48
Rickbreaker, stop the hell right there, and please, no one respond to this, or else this thread will turn flamebait. Just ignore Riskbreaker's comment.
i'm not trying to start a flame war or anything like that. i just saying the wii is way more capable than this. this game looks worse than the xbox version.
what i meant to say is that lately it seems that when it comes to ports to other systems, ubisoft seems to be doing a poor job. hopefully ubisoft will learn that if you are going to make a mulitplatform game, you just cant make it on one system and then move it to another. i dont know if they just didnt have enough time or whatever but ubisoft should realize people dont want crappy ports.
Appolyons
10-22-2006, 19:59
I'm gona throw something totaly random in here. I went to EB today and I realized that the gears of war special edition I reserved months ago comes out on the 12th, the Zelda I reserved along with the Wii system I want to get comes out on the 19th. I'm getting kinda excited...dont know how this fits in though with all the Wii bashing.