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REFLEX
01-08-2007, 08:06
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/003423.html


Well.. so much for the 50gig advantage. Its good news though.

Sanchezps3
01-08-2007, 08:11
WOW, a triple layer disc? I still feel Blu-Ray is better not just in quality but blue ray (in theory) should only need to be a dual layer to achieve 50G. The thing i am most interested in is about a year or so down the road, when the ps3 games start getting bigger(example 25G's plus) how will the 360's DVD format fight back.

SuperSJ-PS3
01-08-2007, 08:14
And tomorrow Sony will announce 400gb bluray disc. :p

REFLEX
01-08-2007, 08:16
WOW, a triple layer disc? I still feel Blu-Ray is better not just in quality but blue ray (in theory) should only need to be a dual layer to achieve 50G. The thing i am most interested in is about a year or so down the road, when the ps3 games start getting bigger(example 25G's plus) how will the 360's DVD format fight back.

Well... first off ill say that I like both formats!

But... having said that the HD DVD triple layered disc comes months after Toshiba announced a 45gig disc... but where is that one?

The 50gig disc inst a totally SURE thing yet because they still need to go through the process of getting it approved and all this other stuff. Its a strange deal they need to go through. Blu-ray and HD DVD have the potential to be EXACT same quality NOW..... its just a matter of what they do with it down the road with some certain titles. Some things need to have so much extra work done on them to make them look good and extra space would be important in some cases. Plus you can fill up a lot of space with super high quality audio. ;)

Existing HD DVD drives probably couldnt read triple layer discs..... so current players and the 360 drive included wouldnt handle it, if it happens.

Kamahl
01-08-2007, 09:04
meh, its almost useless, after all... HD DVD isnt used for games.

REFLEX
01-08-2007, 09:06
This is true. Its not totally useless though. For most movies you dont need more than 30gigs. But in some special cases it could come in handy.



meh, its almost useless, after all... HD DVD isnt used for games.

nekon
01-08-2007, 10:00
keep in mind lossy and lossless audio formats

REFLEX
01-08-2007, 10:22
keep in mind lossy and lossless audio formats

Yeah defenitly. But even at a certain point there is not going to be such space needed.


One example where more room could be totally used is in live Concerts in 5.1/6.1/7.1 .... the more Uncompressed the better. That stuff takes up a LOT of room.

Grym
01-08-2007, 10:32
Those will be more expensive to produce with 3 layers though. Plus isn't HD-DVD the same as Blu-ray when movies are considered. They are locked to 30 GB while Blu-ray is locked to 50 GB? To make the players compatible with the discs.

If not I could easily see the 200 GB discs out in a while for movies. They tested some 200 GB discs last year I remember. :)

REFLEX
01-08-2007, 10:34
The CURRENT players are supposed to be stuck with the current formats.. but BD isnt locked to 50gig, not all BD movies are 50gig discs.

Its just a matter of enough room, 200Gigs is not needed at all for movies, perhaps the SUPER EXTENDO ULTRA MAXIMUM EDITION OF LOTR. Hehehe.

kuku
01-08-2007, 15:35
It doesn't effect anything.

Since all players only read dual layers.

You can make BD 100gig, but until new drives get installed(or flashed) it doesn't matter.

In the end, it's a paper marketing.

Cyrann
01-08-2007, 15:48
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/003423.html


Well.. so much for the 50gig advantage. Its good news though.

Haha, good news because you have an HD-DVD player?

All the information over the last week is jhust extending the war, I don't even know what to think anymore...

janenba352
01-08-2007, 15:52
Its 51GB... not 50... but who cares... Toshiba is releasing it to late anyways. end of 2007.... yea.. the format war will be going to strong by then for minor additions to do any damage. Sony will release a triple layered Blu-Ray disc thats 75GB... wow... Sony topped Toshiba again.

ff81
01-08-2007, 18:10
The primary reason I am excited about larger discs:

TV shows in HD without having to buy one season on 7 freakin discs!

:)

gcubed
01-08-2007, 18:19
like Reflex said, its mostly useless as players cant read the triple layer discs anyway. So guess what, that 200 dollar xbox drive, or 400 dollar player you just bought? Cant do anything with this 50gb disc. It was put best earlier "its just paper marketing." The same way the 100gb+ BD discs are.

REFLEX
01-08-2007, 20:46
Yup, the same way all that higher capacity stuff is right now...... only new future drives could read it, and guess what - its painfully obvious that the companies would never release movies on discs that other players couldnt read.... so it is useless in most ways.

Hitman
01-09-2007, 00:15
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badz_ps3
01-09-2007, 01:38
on a side note... i havent heard much of anything in terms of hd-dvd burners for pc. are there any???? are there any hd-dvd drives even for pc's??? ive seen the blu ray drives and now the blu ray burners are close behind, but i havent heard anything comparable for hddvd. whats the deal with that?