Official Grand Theft Auto IV Thread *Trailer* (7/7/07)

[PhantoK]

I can't see the pic! Help! Someone re-post it!
Umm... What pic are you talking about?
Its alot easier to fix it when you know what your trying to fix. :lol:

[adamba4e]

I just want to say please do not post these pics on the forum. They would be unfit for minors.

How many of you think that the next GTA will take up the full 50GB on a dual-layer Blu-ray disc? Do you guys think there will be any load times between parts of cities? What region do you think the next GTA will take place and what time period?

[DeputyDon]

My guess is there will be no loading times, after GTA:SA they would upset a lot of people with loading times. I would guess it would take place in United States, in maybe like 1995 and wrap up all three stories from GTA 3, VC, and SA. I doubt it will fill up the entire 50 GB also.

[D-Lee]

How many of you think that the next GTA will take up the full 50GB on a dual-layer Blu-ray disc? Do you guys think there will be any load times? What region do you think the next GTA will take place and what time period?


Absolutely. Rockstar is always taking things to the limit and doing the best with what they can. There will probably be a "load time" but probably nothing significant like in San Andreas.

[adamba4e]

I meant load times while driving between the cities.

[DeputyDon]

San Andreas had absolutly no load times. Aside from entering the game. The load times are pretty much zero. Yeah if you count the 2 seconds it takes when loading the building, when the screen is black and says the name of where you entered. My guess is adam meant Loading times going from one city to another, not little things like the gym and clothing stores.

EDIT: I posted this before adam finished his post, the one above mine.

[D-Lee]

Oh...Well I meant the loading times between missions. I don't think Rockstar would go backwards and give us loading time between cities if SA didn't have loading times. Doesn't seem very Rockstar-like.

[ProtoJoe]

Well, I wouldnt know about that because I had SA on my HDD, so it was like instant loading :D

But still, there would be no reason for rockstar to do that, I mean, the only reason for them to go back to doing so is only if the ps3's power makes them do so, and even though all the specs of the ps3 when read are gibberish to me, I would like to believe its more powerful than that.

[adamba4e]

Back to the other question. What region do you think the next GTA will take place and what time period?

[D-Lee]

Back to the other question. What region do you think the next GTA will take place and what time period

London, Tokyo or Seattle.


Well, I wouldnt know about that because I had SA on my HDD, so it was like instant loading

I'm curious...Who all has a HDD? I don't.

[ProtoJoe]

*off topic*

I have an HDD, but mostly because I am on the move between parents and friends houses to lime (hang out), its alot easier with the ps2 with the HDD inside and one cd to launch it..

*on topic*

I figure that rockstar might try and break new grounds this time....But for the character, I can see at him being fully customizable this time around, so the story line is not so set and linear (like SA) but more flexible and more choice options this time around

[D-Lee]

I expect:

-Retail stores selling items for safe houses
-Complete customization i.e. skin color, male/female, body size, shape
-More RPG like...GTA had something going with SA because they added rpg elements. Keep going Rockstar.

Here's an interesting article http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143979


The Saitama prefecture of Japan has banned the sales of Grand Theft Auto III out of fear the game is a harmful influence on children.
On September 16th, the Saitama prefecture banning sales of the game to children under the age of 18 years old.

Unlike the US, Japan has never had - and still doesn't - a law against selling mature games to minors. Until now, Japan has simply trusted parents would have enough judgment. Recently, however, because of widespread coverage of GTA in the media, it appears the rating enforcement system may be headed for change.

A few weeks ago, the Kanegawa prefecture took the first step and banned sales of GTA III to minors. To follow-up, Saitama is repeating the act in their section of Japan, and this is likely only the start of a greater movement. In the next few weeks, it's likely other prefectures will begin to cave in.

If a large amount of prefectures decide to ban the game, the government will probably step in and force an official law concerning selling mature games to minors. Though this is all speculation, it's looking more and more likely every day. But until then, kids in the other 45 prefectures can continue to get their GTA fix.

[DeputyDon]

Like I already said. My guess would be in 1995 in USA somewhere, a combination of GTA3, VC, SA, and a few new cities. The story would have to do with all three of the previous characters. Maybe not using all three but a fourth character that has to do with the previous 3. A character that had a significant impact on all three of them.

[Boogie Woogie]

I expect Rockstar to take advantage of the Blu-Ray disc capacity and have a much bigger world with heaps of missions . I'm talking a GTA so big that you can travel across the entire USA by plane or whatever to different majro cities (like New York , San Francisco , Los Angeles etc.) to do missions whenever you want , which would lead to different storylines .
I expect great graphics . Ok , that is pretty much a given since we're talking next gen stuff here .
I would also like Rockstar to produce a less violent game , not by much but also not anymore violent than San Andreas .
Whatever the outcome i'm sure GTA Next Gen will be a very enjoyable game .

[smitty61]

Back to the other question. What region do you think the next GTA will take place and what time period?

I would expect either PAris, or Rome, or Tokyo and it will be set in the present.

[Steroyd]

I think they'll do the whole of UK.

logically it makes sense, they've been following the first two GTA's map-wise, and all that's left is London (or in case of PS3's power UK).

It's a small enough island.

[smitty61]

That could be cool also. Anyways about hat question above about loading times. I don't think there will be any because they would be going backward not foreword. The only loading times were when you were going into and out of buildings. And with Blu-ray they can most likely delete that one also. This game is going to be so good. :D

[D-Lee]

I agree with UK. I think either UK or Japan. Tokyo would be pretty cool in a GTA but my only concern is if London will be a bore or not.

[smitty61]

I think both UK and Tokyo should be in the gamne. That would be sweet. In London you think it could be boring, you could get a mission that says "Steal the Crown Jewels" or something. I think it would be really fun.

[D-Lee]

Lol, or steal the crumpets from the really old british dude. THAT WOULD ROCK MAN.

[smitty61]

Or they give you say 5 GTA hourse to make one of the guards at the Buckingham Palace to move. Or Blow up Big Ben or something. :lol:

[D-Lee]

Omg. In the end of the game you could become the king/queen of ENGLAND!(with power of course)

[smitty61]

Now that might even top the ending to Vice City where you own the mansion. The would be the best. Being able to run around in buckingham Palace and do whatever you want.

[D-Lee]

Yeah omg. What if you were able to declare war on other countries...And then it would turn into an Action/Adventure/Strategy...And if it had pieces of RPG's in it...Action/Adventure/Strategy/RPG?!?!

[smitty61]

It would become the most deverse game out there. Then after you fight enough other countries and use your allies you could rule the world. Now that would be awesome.

[D-Lee]

Maybe that's what rockstars trying to do...Make it so it combines all the genre's to make the most compatible game ever.

[Tonic785]

argh, all i remember is rockstar games saying something about.. what they want to do in a GTA game, they cant do on the current gen(PS2, Xbox and GC).
so i think theyre gonna cram the Blu Ray(single layer, of course:) with everything its worth.
i imagine they'll use the same sort of 'cartoony' graphics, but with no jagged edges,
and hopefully alot better textures and polygon count.


so.. um.. guess that's it, right?

PEACE :roll:

[Aza]

I like the comic book ish look of the gta games, its like a combination of reality but with over exagerated elements for uniqueness, GTA won't be GTA without it.
I like that news about GTA4 being built from the ground up and Rockstar saying how the level of enviromental interactivity will be far greater, they mentioned something as small as a coke can being 'interactive' for example, now thats scary :shock:
Guess we'll get to finally enter every single building and access areas in multiple different ways, which due to current system limitations wasn't possible.

GTA4 will be the next evolution of 'free roaming' gameplay for sure.
The thought of all the possibilities is just mind blowing.
'hm that buildings in my way *steals tank and levels building*, ah thats better'. :lol:

[Tonic785]

WTH, yo man.. you could always interact with a coke can though :lol:

u could step on it in GTA3 :)
but they wouldnt call it coke.. they would call it.. cooke :D

[D-Lee]

WTH, yo man.. you could always interact with a coke can though

u could step on it in GTA3
but they wouldnt call it coke.. they would call it.. cooke


So what are you saying?

[Steroyd]

WTH, yo man.. you could always interact with a coke can though

u could step on it in GTA3
but they wouldnt call it coke.. they would call it.. cooke


So what are you saying?

i think he's talking about brand names. :?:

Rockstar would have to make everything up completely, even if it's a blatent rip-off of a product.

[SessDMC]

WTH, yo man.. you could always interact with a coke can though

u could step on it in GTA3
but they wouldnt call it coke.. they would call it.. cooke


So what are you saying?

i think he's talking about brand names. :?:

Rockstar would have to make everything up completely, even if it's a blatent rip-off of a product.

I know, brilliant master mind of R*, Can i just say for the record, lets be real, the next GTA isnt going to be set in london, i think that they have already set the themes of each city. Liberty = Dark and dindgy Mob town, Vice = Columbian crack haven, San Andreas = WEST COAST STYLEE BABY! (Los Santos) Asian ran buissness town (San Fierro) Gambleing Mob Town (Las Venturas) I think they will remodel and reform each city defining the era's and styles of what they are and making it Immersive!

[adamba4e]

One reason I do not think that it will take place in London is because there would be to much comparisons between it and the Getaway.

[D-Lee]

I know, brilliant master mind of R*, Can i just say for the record, lets be real, the next GTA isnt going to be set in london, i think that they have already set the themes of each city. Liberty = Dark and dindgy Mob town, Vice = Columbian crack haven, San Andreas = WEST COAST STYLEE BABY! (Los Santos) Asian ran buissness town (San Fierro) Gambleing Mob Town (Las Venturas) I think they will remodel and reform each city defining the era's and styles of what they are and making it Immersive!


Ok...Well remember that era, 60's maybe, called like English Invasion? Where English pop culture dominated American? Just saying don't rule anything out. Los Santos was an Asian ran business town? I don't remember that.




One reason I do not think that it will take place in London is because there would be to much comparisons between it and the Getaway.


Doesn't matter. Rockstar would just outdo everything. London/Tokyo would be perfect although I really think it will still be in America. Probably north west.

[JustinPinter]

When Rockstar makes GTA 5........or as they are making it I hope they take into account they better revolutionize...just like GTA3 did for the series...they better improve everything...........I am getting tired of pick-up missions/escort missions/ same weapons, same type of cars......it just seems that all they ahve done in the past games is add veichles, weapons, enviroments, ect. they really havn't brought anything new to the stage.

[D-Lee]

I'm not lol. Just as long as they change it up each time, i'm perfectly fine with the format. Just as long as they are creative and add new small elements to the game, im fine with it.

[MGS4infoguy]

They best move is to make it like a MMPOG. such as this. I thought this up before San Andreas came out

Make it a huge mmpog with a huge city at least twice as big as San Andreas with no load time between the islands if there are any. Making this a mmpog, there would be at least 100 to 500 players per game where you have to work your way up to ladder as you do in all the games and other players can give other players missions if they are mob bosses or what not. Put together better living gangs to fight other gangs. Just like San Andreas but playing with live people, not computer AI. So a ped walking down the street or jacking someones car could be a real player. Of course there would be computer peds to fill the city but you can do everything in San andreas from robbing houses, being a good citizien, maybe playing a cop. But you create the character, from the looks, to the personality, to their action and so on. With the map being alot bigger, it allows for more action in the area, in the water and on the streets. Also need alot more buildings to enter. As for vehicles and planes. It could be just like Unreal Tournament 2004 where if someone took a vehicle it was gone until it crashed and blew up then respawned in the same place a few mins later.

This limits the number of people that can be in the air or in the water to the number of vehicles there are thus controlling some of the potential chaos that could have happened. Also a good idea for gangs and mob bosses to keep in touch is using cell phone or pages. This would be good with the head phones. Also another way to controlling is if someone thinks they are gonna be an ass and cause chaos all the time like you could in the past games as blowing up tanks, copters and such over and over with out being stopped, this time snipers would be put in place to take out the guy after he had 6 stars for awhile. As for dying, you would lose some points or money or possiblly be knocked down a rank. and respawn at a random hospital which would be several just like San Andreas so it would cut down on people trying to kill you after respawning but of course only points and rank would be taken away if you died from another gang or crash or self inflicted but not for some stupid reason or getting ran over or something like that.

Also with the better graphics and such, it would take away the ability to find glitches at getting behind the scene like in the past games you could get under the land and behind closed off buildings. Since sony says the storage space online would be huge, then you could save your progress for when you're not playing and your gang members or so could check to see if you're on if they need you or something for a special mission such as bombing a rival gangs hide out. GTA MMPO wont be nearly as chaotic as you guys are thinking. There would be lots of things keeping from ruining the game experience for others. And having it online wont change the game at all, it will just make the story personal to each player meaning no two players will have to go through the same story or game. Having it this way will make single player offline gaming worthless and boring. image this... You are a new gamer, starting up at the bottom, basicly new in town. You go looking for work, whatever happens is up to you, or you're roaming around and get caught up in a gang war or crime and the other players being another gang or cop, thinks you're involved and they go after you. so you go looking for others to back you up, work for, protect and so on. And thats how you get your footing and work you way up by that way or unless you're playing a cop then you are to look for these criminals or work out a FBI sting to nab a mafia or gang group. You guys work as a team if you want, take out drug houses, or other gangs or trash homes or the police station. Also if you go roaming and no gang wants to recuirt you, then you have the option of taking them out yourself. Lots strategy thinking can be put into this. This would be the ultimate game with unlimited possiblities and hundreds of differnt ways to go. It is basicly the real world put into a game with the possiblities of anything.

You might be thinking, what if you get arrested? well you can either try and break out, have your friends break you out, or if you're in there for say 2 days or so (game wise) then something comes along to let you out. Or you start over but like when being killed, if you're arrested, you drop a rank or something.
Just think, you rob a place, the cops are comming (other players), you run and hide or jack a car, player to player car chasing, foot persuits, hiding out, killing a cop, taking hostages, whatever you choose. And as things go on, you can get warrenties out for you. Where if you're playing a cop, you get a call on the CB saying be on the look at for "John Smith" and it gives your description. You can also choose to play a crooked cop.

It would be endless.

[D-Lee]

I think a GTA FPS would be pretty cool. Imagine a ghetto FPS :lol:

[ProtoJoe]

....but if it became a FPS then it wont be GTA anymore...I thought this was understood...

And...no offense, but as cool as it sounds, in reality, it would be kinda lame...

[viperman]

Hmm that might be good. Maybe in a specail mission or something like that.

But i'm kinda thinking why u always gotta go do the missions. Why cant the missions come to you, like you be driving and all of a sudden theres a person you in the game and gets shot blah blah blah blah.... You know waht i mean the missions come to you not you to them.

Wonder if there will be a better stealth in the next gen GTA.

[D-Lee]

I didn't mean primarily a FPS you clown. With the elements of GTAness, include elements of FPS. A more precise/accurate aiming system, and better camera angles.

[viperman]

Kinda like the GTA:SA for the PC. That you aim with mouse and is not lock aiming?

[D-Lee]

Oh really? See thats cool. And that's the kind of stuff that will be available for use with the PS3 because of the Keyboard/mouse compatibility.

[ProtoJoe]

but yea, the reason why I play games on console is so that i DONT have to use a keybord and mouse, were as I could lie in bed and play game for the the whole day/night...

the same could be done sitting at a keybord and mouse....but its just as comfortable...

But remember that this new GTA is not the same GTA as the ones on PS3, remember they are making a NEW engine for the game.... so chances are we would see changed gameplay....

[D-Lee]

Ok you say a NEW engine but what does that MEAN. Define engine. I don't pretend like I know what this tech mumbo jumbo means and thats why I always ask what stuff means :lol:

[viperman]

What he means about a new engine is that GTA is being rebuild from the ground up. This mean there willl be new physics new A.I new gameplay new everything. Just like GTA:LCS got made from the ground up for the psp.

But what i mean t to say was maybe the next instalment of GTA will be like the PC version. You aim and shoot no lock on...to put it in better words it can be like a third-person shooter. But i dunno, i just wanna see something that will amaze me.

[ProtoJoe]

lol, has gta yet to NOT amaze? Better yet, has ROCKSTAR ever let us down (IMO, with the expetion of manhunt and mindnight club 2...but we're talking about GTA)

[MGS4infoguy]

MANHUNT ROCKS MAN! I WANT MANHUNT 2

[viperman]

They should not make a sequal to Manhunt that game was wayy to violent.

Anywayz i was reading an article some where (close page by mistake) and i think i remeber reading that gas was gonna be a standerd for the next GTA, but it will last a long time.

[PhantoK]

Anywayz i was reading an article some where (close page by mistake) and i think i remeber reading that gas was gonna be a standerd for the next GTA, but it will last a long time.
Hmm... Im not sure if im happy about this. (if it is true...) I mean sure its more realistic and i propably will wreck every car i drive before it could run out of gas, but (i think it was adamba4e who said this) What if i run out of gas in the middle of the desert in my new modded car i just got and payed ALOT of money for. Do i call a tow service? (lol that could be a possibility :lol: ) Or do a just leave the car there and loose it.. Or will it stay there when i go to get some gas from miles away?

[SessDMC]

Yeh man hunt is like a big twos up at Jack thomson! and Midnight club 2, meh it was better then Need for speed as in Value for money!

[adamba4e]

A few thing s that I think could be taken out of the next GTA are;

The way the cops are always there: The cops should have to drive from the police station, not just apear out of no where. Another make a shooting they should have to do an investigation unless you are still shooting when they get there.

The bad AI for the drivers: I hate when I am driving along minding my own business and then all of the sudden I get crashed into.

The health meter: Instead of a meter you should just see how much blood is on your clothing. You should also be able to rest up against the wall and gain your health back.

The body armor meter: Instead if you are wearning one under your shirt you should be fine. If you are wearing body armor you should have to actually wear it.

What would you like to see be taken out of the next GTA?

[PhantoK]

Thats a hard question adamba4e... <br />
<br />
Hmm...Well the fact that the cops can ALWAYS find you is really getting on my nerves. <br />
I mean there isnt a helicopter or a police car nearby and suddenly theres...

[MGS4infoguy]

A few thing s that I think could be taken out of the next GTA are;

The way the cops are always there: The cops should have to drive from the police station, not just apear out of no where. Another make a shooting they should have to do an investigation unless you are still shooting when they get there.

The bad AI for the drivers: I hate when I am driving along minding my own business and then all of the sudden I get crashed into.

The health meter: Instead of a meter you should just see how much blood is on your clothing. You should also be able to rest up against the wall and gain your health back.

The body armor meter: Instead if you are wearning one under your shirt you should be fine. If you are wearing body armor you should have to actually wear it.

What would you like to see be taken out of the next GTA?

1. the cops, sure but that would make it to easy

2. people crashing into you at random is just like real life so they part must stay.

3. the health meter or pecetange stays but blood on you sure, but no damn healing like they had in MGS 3, thats pathetic for this type of game.

The body armor you wouldnt see anyways so this is another pointless feature

[DeputyDon]

2. people crashing into you at random is just like real life so they part must stay.
I think what he means is when your driving down the street and someone in the lane next to you turns into you for no reason at all.
exactly -adamba4e



3. the health meter or pecetange stays but blood on you sure, but no damn healing like they had in MGS 3, thats pathetic for this type of game.


I think maybe only having blood tell your amount of health would be hard to work with. What if your in a car and you can't see your body? Lol they could always do the way it said your health in I think it was Doom? Where they have an avatar of your fafce and blood starts to come out of his nose and stuff as you get more and more hurt.


The body armor you wouldnt see anyways so this is another pointless feature Thats not pointless, he means so its over your clothes when your wearing it. It adds to the realisism of the game. I wouldn't say its "Pointless" but not really needed either.

[smitty61]

A few thing s that I think could be taken out of the next GTA are;

The way the cops are always there: The cops should have to drive from the police station, not just apear out of no where. Another make a shooting they should have to do an investigation unless you are still shooting when they get there.

The bad AI for the drivers: I hate when I am driving along minding my own business and then all of the sudden I get crashed into.

The health meter: Instead of a meter you should just see how much blood is on your clothing. You should also be able to rest up against the wall and gain your health back.

The body armor meter: Instead if you are wearning one under your shirt you should be fine. If you are wearing body armor you should have to actually wear it.

What would you like to see be taken out of the next GTA?

I like the blood idea but I think they should take away the meters and go back to the number system they had in GTA3. It was a lot easier telling how much health and stuff you had with that format. Also I think all AI should be improved for tha game. The cops tend to have really bad AI and I want them to be smarter so the game is harder.

[Steroyd]

The way the cops are always there: The cops should have to drive from the police station, not just apear out of no where. Another make a shooting they should have to do an investigation unless you are still shooting when they get there.

hmm... this is a tricky one.

Instead of them coming from the police station, although realistic if you lose the current police it would slow down the action by loads.
Id prefer police that were just going on with their job, try to intercept.

One thing i'd like is not make it so easy for whatever car i choose to outrun the police, when they're at top speed to, just made it too easy.

[MGS4infoguy]

you guys make no since, the crashing into you at random IS realistic, that stuff does happen in life. And you guys are saying the cops are to good and are always there yet you want their AI improved. makes no since

[DeputyDon]

It makes sense. AI improved and being there within 3 seconds or your crime happening aren't the same thing. They mean when you shoot someone they want a cop drive with sirens on from the police station to the crime scene to make it more realistic.

Crashing into you at random is realistic but not how often it happens in GTA games. Almost everytime you drive next to a car they switch lanes and ram you for no reason.

We aren't saying the cops are too good. If you are refering to Steroyd's post then reread it. It says no matter what Car he was in he can outrun the cops. That shouldn't be possible. If you are in a bulky taxi cab why can you outrun cops just as easily as if you are in an Inferno?

[Steroyd]

you guys make no since, the crashing into you at random IS realistic, that stuff does happen in life. And you guys are saying the cops are to good and are always there yet you want their AI improved. makes no since

O.K say you going along a highway at fuull speed, and the car right next to you is also going at full speed (and framerate drops as well everytime :( ), this is a highway by the way, then BANG a car decides to turn into you randomly throwing off your momentum.

Realistically if someone saw a car driving 150MPH behind themthey'd stay in the same lane, until the car passes.

Another i should add is indicators, that way we actually know if they decide to take a turn somewhere (as well as when they're aware of the police siren).

Police AI is still unsatisfactory you drive at full speed down a road in any car and you lose the current police, at least Driver 2 had the right idea.

[smitty61]

Also oing along the lines of police AI they need to be smarter when they are chasing you on foot and in cars. They need to get faster cars and they need to use good ways to hit you to make you lose control and such. And when they are chasing you on fott if you are running away they should shoot you and such.

[Steroyd]

maybe the police should actually try and apprehend you (out of the car) instead of beating you or shooting you to death, and when it goes to 3 star and above they deem you too dangerous and shoot you on sight.

[adamba4e]

A few thing s that I think could be taken out of the next GTA are;

The way the cops are always there: The cops should have to drive from the police station, not just apear out of no where. Another make a shooting they should have to do an investigation unless you are still shooting when they get there.

The bad AI for the drivers: I hate when I am driving along minding my own business and then all of the sudden I get crashed into.

The health meter: Instead of a meter you should just see how much blood is on your clothing. You should also be able to rest up against the wall and gain your health back.

The body armor meter: Instead if you are wearning one under your shirt you should be fine. If you are wearing body armor you should have to actually wear it.

What would you like to see be taken out of the next GTA?

I like the blood idea but I think they should take away the meters and go back to the number system they had in GTA3.

That is not my idea, I got it from the Getaway.

Has anyone here played the Getaway, I like the way there is no meters or indicators on the screen.

3 more thing I would like or see get taken out of the game;

The weapon indicator: I always thought this was pointless because you can obviously see the weapon you are holding, so why would you need a indicator to tell you?

The way you cycle throught weapons: I hate how when you cycle through your weapons just magically appear in your hands. You should have concealable weapons and non-concealable weapons, the concealable weapons are weapons that can fit in your pants, belt, or holster a non-concealable weapon is a weapon that you must carry on your shoulder or back using a strap. If you have a non-concealable weapon gang people of the the cops will keep more of an eye on you and/or ask you for a license for the weapon if you have one he will let you go or harass you if you do not have one he will confiscate the weapon and try to arrest you. To cycle through weapons just press R2 and the button of the weapon (for example for a AK-47 you may press R2 and Circle).

Floating money and weapons: When you kill someone there weapons and money should not float in the air, instead you should walk next to the dead or knocked out person you a pop-up in the corner says "press X to search" and you press X and you can search there wallet and search them for weapons, anything you find you should be able to keep.

[smitty61]

Floating money and weapons: When you kill someone there weapons and money should not float in the air, instead you should walk next to the dead or knocked out person you a pop-up in the corner says "press X to search" and you press X and you can search there wallet and search them for weapons, anything you find you should be able to keep.


I really like this idea and I think that when you search someone their whole wallet shuld come up and you can look at their driver's license and view their name, age, and stuff.

[JDUB]

yeah that would be pretty cool i think it was lik that in true crimes execpt for the wallet part but with the guns i mean the skys the limit for rockstar and who thought the 2 player mode was kind of dissapointing with the limit of distance between the ppl and u had to use the same car and if u wanted to use the cheat to heal then 2 player couldnt get any health and they had a lower health bar then 1player didnt which made it easy for 2 player to die. but i really hope its online then it could be never endin action like wow or and of them types of game and u also could have game modes like who can get the most money by robbin ppl at night u know but thats just me :wink:

[MGS4infoguy]

Dont know what games you guys are talkig about but i could not out run the police in every car I drove. it all was a matter on how I drove, such as weaving in and out of traffic, doing sharp turns, going over places where you normally couldnt in real life and so on. so its not ths speed, its the police not able to predict your every move. And if they were to start off at the police station, it would make getting away alot easier

and it also sounds like you guys are trying to turn this into Driver

[DeputyDon]

Although the horse racing part of SA made it more realistic, I think they should get rid of it. Yes, the chances to win are slim, but most people saved, bet money on a horse, and reloaded their save until they won a bunch of money. It got old, and was too easy to get money.

One feature they added in SA I really like was in the player screen or whatever. If you used any cheat codes it opened up a new status thing that said how many times you have used a cheat code. If you never use one, it never shows up. Its under one of the menus, not sure which.

[adamba4e]

Although the horse racing part of SA made it more realistic, I think they should get rid of it. Yes, the chances to win are slim, but most people saved, bet money on a horse, and reloaded their save until they won a bunch of money. It got old, and was too easy to get money.

One feature they added in SA I really like was in the player screen or whatever. If you used any cheat codes it opened up a new status thing that said how many times you have used a cheat code. If you never use one, it never shows up. Its under one of the menus, not sure which.

I won tons of money in the horse racing, I bet $10,000,000 at a time and I would only bet on one horse who won every single time. I would like them to make the horse races more realistic looking.

[JDUB]

yeah i bet alot of money on black jack up in las venturas and won all the time but i have a feeling gta 4 will be the best ever no doubt

[Tonic785]

lol i bet all my money in the horse races :P
i buy a condo/flat near the bettin' place and bet all ma dough :twisted:
its all the money :DDDDDDD got 1.2bil aTm :roll:

[JDUB]

yeah i tryed the horse race 5 or 10 times but never really won so i was forget it ill play black jack and i won ever time i went to the one where u can better 1mil so i made like 50 mil in on night playin it

[smitty61]

I like to plaay black jack too. But my favorite is video poker. I rock in that. Whenever I play I always come up with a profit. I think in the next GTA they should put in more ways to gamble.

[JDUB]

yes no doubt like poker or holdem sunthin like that.

[Aza]

You guys know about this PSM magazine info about GTA4 right?


GTA 4: Rebuilt from the Ground Up

The next GTA game is going to look really good. Actually, maybe that should be feel really good. It's a no-brainer that on the most powerful games console yet, one of our favorite series will have better graphics. But, base on developer Rockstar North's technical research, GTA4 will be more about immersion than just mere eye candy.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will bring GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Speciafially, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more detailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to be able to pour more textures, more object variety, and tons of details (such as discarded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts more like they would in the real world on every level.

Sorry if its already been posted, score one for PS3 though if the best selling franchise in the world is PS3 exclsuive for a while.

[JDUB]

what issue is that or is that the website

[D-Lee]

That's not information direct from R*. That's just common sense/speculation. And yes, that has been posted.

[Steroyd]

Speciafially, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously.

WHOA!! :shock:

Doesn't that mean that Blu-ray would have to have a "high" data transfer speed for this to be achievable. :?:

Or at least level with Cell and RSX speeds. :!:

Imagine they included the HDD in that equation :shock:
That would be killer!!

[SessDMC]

Ok the serch idea i like, i also think that the other cars AI could deffinatly be improved, you have cops on the beat all the time so i think cops going from the HQ police station is abit foggy, maybe if we could think it though. The bar in SA is your Energy bar, you eat to keep it up, you loose energy if your shot, or not eaten in a long time ect. so going back to the point system isnt really much needed, the GUI in GTA : SA is ok to me, so it dont need anything changing, consealing wepons is a good idea but you can do it any ways. Just came up with somthing!

The Cloths you ware affects how many wepons you hold! So say a full on army kit allows you to carry almost any gun because of the pockets, also an item system where you can carry peticular items like Camera's and other stuff, Change to thow at the police if the think your up to no good so it deiters them before running after you. Also having your own set of keys to all the places you own, and beeing able to use them as knucle dusters.

Just a small idea just came into my head.

What if you could create partners, and like at one point they get into trouble with a gang, and theyre on a manhunt after him and your partner is wanting to commit suicide, so you have to negotiate for him to not kill him slef and to get him to a safe space while it all calms down, That would be pretty cool.

[JDUB]

yeah i like ur ideas but wouldnt it be cool instead of havin different wepons sets just have them in all one big set, so u can use all the wepons and not watse the time to buy the other ones or put the cheat in but thats just me what u think.

[adamba4e]

GTA : SA is ok to me, so it dont need anything changing, consealing wepons is a good idea but you can do it any ways.


What I meant was they should get rid of the way you press R2 and the weapons magically appear in your hands.

[MGS4infoguy]

GTA : SA is ok to me, so it dont need anything changing, consealing wepons is a good idea but you can do it any ways.


What I meant was they should get rid of the way you press R2 and the weapons magically appear in your hands.

then you wouldnt be able to hold as many weapons which would be annoying


I still say basicly keep the game as is but do minor changes and add more. I still like my mmpog idea best.

[D-Lee]

I think the invaluability of the items you receive should be taken away. For example, there should be some way that the cars you get have more value besides just driving them.

[adamba4e]

I think the invaluability of the items you receive should be taken away. For example, there should be some way that the cars you get have more value besides just driving them.

Yeah, I would like to be able to sell my car to a dealership and get a used price for it (based on original value, condition, and mileage).

[smitty61]

Yeah that would be pretty cool. Then you could just steal cars and then sell them to make a lot of money. :D

[SessDMC]

Wich is why it wont be implmented unless you can only put one in every week.

[adamba4e]

They could make it so you could only sell back cars you actually bought.

[D-Lee]

Also, I always thought there should be one amazing car. Like an extremely hard to find Lambourghini or Ferrari or something. I also thought the rewards in SA were kind of lacking.

[adamba4e]

I think all exotic cars should be very hard to find, but you should be able to buy them.

[smitty61]

I think that the selling cars to dealers should be like the import/export lists of SA. They only want specific cars. Also I like the idea that very exotic cars should be hard to find and I think they should get contracts so they can se real car names.

[D-Lee]

The problem I had with the import/export was that the place was so damn hard to find. And what was with that dayly export deal? I never really got that.

[smitty61]

They daily import deal meant that you could only import certain cars on certain days. I don't know why it was put in there.

To deal with the hard to find import/export place I think that they should put it in the middle of the city in a car dealership and have it markes out on the in-game map.

[adamba4e]

They should still have an import and export center (preferably located near a dock) in the next GTA and maybe a mission where you have to export a bunch of cars out of the country.

[D-Lee]

They daily import deal meant that you could only import certain cars on certain days. I don't know why it was put in there.

To deal with the hard to find import/export place I think that they should put it in the middle of the city in a car dealership and have it markes out on the in-game map.


Yeah that was pretty stupid. And remember Vice City? It was so easy to import cars because the place was RIGHT THERE. It was so easy to find.

[smitty61]

They should still have an import and export center (preferably located near a dock) in the next GTA and maybe a mission where you have to export a bunch of cars out of the country.

I like that mission idea. Like it should be basedon say Gone in 60 Seconds where you have to deliever so many cars in such a time limit.

[MGS4infoguy]

They could make it so you could only sell back cars you actually bought.

wouldnt make since, a city of curroption and the car dealers are some of the most crooked people

[Stoffinator]

I am reading an old issue of PSM and in it I found an article that says the following;


GTA 4 for Playstation3 Well, the first unofficial word on the next "true" Grand Theft Auto is officially starting to roll in. While a majority of the GTA team works away on the next offshot of GTA3 (currently rumored as GTA: San Andreas), a core group within Rockstar North is said to be quietly developing the technology behind Grant Theft Auto 4-for the PS3! Evidently, PS2 just isn't capable of what GTA's creators have in mind for the sequel, so they've got their sights set on its yet-unannounced successor.

*I typed this word for word out of the magazine, so I have no proof with a link. But this is in a May 2003 issue on page 16 under rumors.

Could it be Rockstar has been working on the PS3 version of GTA since 2003? That means they had a small team (as said in the quote above) working on the technology since then. I am begining to wonder how much is complete?

FYI: PSM gave this a 99% probability of this rumor being true. Remember it was in the rumor section of the magazine.

[adamba4e]

GTA : SA is ok to me, so it dont need anything changing, consealing wepons is a good idea but you can do it any ways.


What I meant was they should get rid of the way you press R2 and the weapons magically appear in your hands.

then you wouldnt be able to hold as many weapons which would be annoying


I still say basicly keep the game as is but do minor changes and add more. I still like my mmpog idea best.

Actually you would be able to carry just as much. Watch this video of 50 Cent: Bulletproof for an example http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/733/733363/vids_1.html (Watch the one named Huge Trailer (08/05/2005) it is located at the top left hand trailer)

You could carry just as many weapons maybe more.

[JDUB]

yeah and like when he picks up a wepon he actually bends over and picks it up.

[Mika Mo 25]

the addition of waverunners/jetskis would be pretty cool and the ability to drive thru for food. I hope since the PS3 is going to be so powerful that we can go into a lot more buildings. what do you guys tihnk about that?

[adamba4e]

the addition of waverunners/jetskis would be pretty cool and the ability to drive thru for food. I hope since the PS3 is going to be so powerful that we can go into a lot more buildings. being able to launch in a space shuttle and actaully goin into space would be awsome, sorta like a futuristic GTA with flying cars and such. what do you guys tihnk about that?

I would say something about your idea about a futuristic GTA but I do not want to be banned from the forum.

[JDUB]

lol thats great adamba4e i totally agree with u mika u kinda went far with that.

[D-Lee]

I pray to God every night before I go to bed that Rockstar doesn't do that.

[JDUB]

exactly nomar exactly lets hope the make big improvments not dumbs ones.

[D-Lee]

When has R* made a stupid mistake though? Eh?? I can't think of one. Except maybe that the majority of KKK members didn't buy SA :roll:

[JDUB]

man u just keep hitin the nail on the head maybe mika will get the hint right.

[smitty61]

Man I really hope that they do not put GTA in space. That will be a very bad mistake. I do like Mica's idea of going into more buildings and bening able to drive through a drive-thru for food.

[JDUB]

yes but still with the whole thing about goin into space and drivin hover cars no way that would be bad for gta 4.

[D-Lee]

Man I really hope that they do not put GTA in space. That will be a very bad mistake. I do like Mica's idea of going into more buildings and bening able to drive through a drive-thru for food.


Yes, a drive-thru is absolutely essential. :lol: I think the essentials for GTA4 has to be a fully integrated environment and a better physics engine.

[JDUB]

yeah i agree with mika there but goin into space nah gta would look good there

[PhantoK]

*edited*

*Back on topic*

I would say something about your idea about a futuristic GTA but I do not want to be banned from the forum. :lol:

Cmon guys, who honestly can say that they think there is even a slim chance of the next gta having space ships? No one? And just about everyone thinks its a bad idea... So what are the chances of it happening? BAD.

But i do like the drive-thru idea. I mean i hated going to a clucking bell (wow... i remember the name) and buying some food. It just took too much time IMO.
So a drive thru would be alot easier, faster and you propably would eat as you drive so your health/hunger meter thingy would go up while you drive.

[adamba4e]

How do you think they can improve the burglary in the next GTA?

Would you like it if you actually had to hotwire each shut off car you stole?

I would like it if you could choose to either punch out a window of a locked cars or pick the lock.

[DeputyDon]

I would like to punch out the window if its locked because if you need to get into a parked car and cops are coming after you, you will probably be busted... Although for missions where you can't let the car take damage you should have to picklock it. It would add some realism to the game.

If you had to hotwire it, then I would say make it so it takes about 4 seconds longer to start moving that way you don't have to hurry up and probably mess up. I also wouldn't say that it should be EVERY shut off car. Some people might leave the keys in there..

[D-Lee]

I think the next game should be in honor of Tupac Shakur. It should be in Las Vegas and the last mission Tupac should get shot right in front of the MGM Grand :(

[DeputyDon]

Tupac is still alive.. lol, just kidding, although many people DO think that. Since in most of his song he mentioned faking his own death and stuff. Atleast according to what I've heard. Im not really into "Rap" all that much. Although I do LOVE early 90's Snoopdog/Dr. Dre. and Bone Thugs N' Harmony isn't bad either ha.

[adamba4e]

Since I would like the game to take place in 2006 not 1996 I do not really like the idea of Tupac Shakur getting shot, however I would like a mission where you have to kill the people who were involved in the murder.

[DeputyDon]

To be honest, im kind of suprised we haven't had to kill the president in a GTA game. Like drive to a grassy knoll and snipe the president and then get away successfully.

They would probably get more crap from that Jack Thompson guy or whatever his name was.

[D-Lee]

Well, Tupac did have a closed coffin. He's also still making albums which is really odd :lol:.

[adamba4e]

I don't know how that would work out.

What gangs would you like to see in the next GTA?

I would like to see....

The Five families of New York City which are;

The Genovese Family
The Gambino Family
The Bonanno Family
The Colombo Family
The Lucchese Family

I would also like to see these gangs:

18th Street
Aryan Brotherhood
Black Gangster Disciples
Black Guerrilla Family
Black P-Stone Nation
Bloods
Crips
Latin Kings
Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13)
Mexican Mafia
Native Gangs
Nazi Low Riders
Netas
Nortenos
Nuestra Familia
Peckerwoods
Southeast Asian Gangs
Surenos
Vice Lords
I would also like there to be different "sets" for each of the gangs (for example the MOB Piru Bloods or the Southside Crips)
and maybe a few fake gangs.

Maybe after awhile you can switch ditch your gang and join another gang.

[Steroyd]

adam you've just made me remember... why did they get rid of the gang meter :shock:

remember on GTA 1 and 2 if you killed so many of one gang the other gang would like you more.
Why didn't they incorporate that in any of the 3D GTA's so far, I hope this makes a return in GTA PS3.

[adamba4e]

I do not remember Rockstar ever giving a reason for that.

Here is some more of my wishlist
I would like to be able to be promoted when you are in a gang, I would like to be able to make my own gang, I would like to be able to take over gangs, and I would like to be able to make deals with other gangs, and I would like to be able to sell, buy, and do drugs (in the game).

[ProtoJoe]

I doubt that they would actually LET you do drugs in the game, that would give ppl like jack thomson a field day. Look at in SA how CJ was all "say no to drugs" and you got extra money when you beat up a drug pusher (showing that violence is better than drugs :D)

[adamba4e]

I think as long as they keep the game under the rating of AO (Adults Only) they will do fine.

[SessDMC]

Actually another idea i would love to see in GTA 4 is the ability to steel uber rare Stealth bombers! And actually distroy parts of the city you didnt like! :D That would be so uber cool with Guns and Roses playing on the radio!

[adamba4e]

I am starting to feel like Rockstar North did a horrible job with Los Angeles, I would like to see Los Santos in 2006 more built up and resembling the real Los Angeles. Of couse I want to see more then just Loas Santos.

[smitty61]

I would ike there to be more planes aviable to fly. Also I like the idea of creating gangs and moving up in teh gang rankings.

[Mika Mo 25]

lol wow dont take that whole space idea too serious, no way would i want the game totally in space that would be so stupuid but i still think "futuristic" could be cool but ray guns and things i think would take away from the realness of the game


rallyracr420
GTA 4 (Takes place in a Futurama type New New York futurescape)

im not the only one

[c.a.p]

Well, I posted a wishlist like thing before, but I guess I can post a revised version now. For now though, I'll just post some of my opinions on the online play.

Online Environment: The online environment should be a living, breathing world. For example, houses and buildings can be built over time and just as easily destroyed. The most important feature to be implemented into an online GTA in my opinion would be the elimination of cheats, hacks, etc. Also, instead of online clans, you should be able to join and create mobs and gangs. You will be able to completely customize your online character right down to the eye color. Also, if available to the player, you can use a microphone headset to communicate online. There should also be at least 10 cities. There could be elections to office in the cities and even to higher offices such as president. Your job as a political leader would be to try to control the place in which you are leader of. In other words, don't let crime rule. You can be hired as a hitman and do feats as little as a standard murder if someone owes money to as high as political assasinations. If your character is wasted you will be taken to a hospital. If your charatcter dies you will reapear at your last place of residence. This could possibly happen a lot, so there will be a police force in the game to "protect" the innocent. To become a member, you have to pass several mission-like tests, and you must prove yourself as an officer to gain rank in the force. If you're arrested, a chunk of your money will be taken as a bribe. If you don't have enough, you better hope you have friends on the outside to bail you out. Speaking of crime, the most common forms of it involve one of the most important parts of GTA: Weapons. You can buy from the black market, steal from your victims, etc. Also, pretty much anything can function as a weapon, from beer bottles to household frying pans. The "mission" of the online play would be to rise to the top, although you can truly do anything you desire.

[smitty61]

If they were going to put it online I think that they should have a start menu like most other games. Where you can choose, 1 player Story, 2 player story, 2 player random, online and options. GTA really needs that. It would make it better IMO.

[Mika Mo 25]

what id like to see in the next gta game

scuba gear

submarines (US Navy)

i think it would be cool if the map is so big that you could fly over oceans to get to other continents and have little islands like the carribean islands that you could make pit stops at.(oceans of course wouldnt have to be so vast) then lets just say you needed to fly to colombia and back to pick up drugs for one mission and stuff like that but with shooting and stuff.

skateboards

snowboards

snowmobiles

skis

wake boards, water skis that can be towed from a boat or a seadoo

burglaries can happen anytime of the day with a lot more different home styles to choose from

being able to use drugs and drink alchohal

and more but ill think of them later

[MGS4infoguy]

I am 100% postive that my idea(s) for GTA 4 MMPOG would be make GTA 4 the best game ever. would get perfect 10 out of 10 score and would be deemed the best game EVER and for a long time. Would beat out all other ideas ever thought up.

[DeputyDon]

I doubt that they would actually LET you do drugs in the game, that would give ppl like jack thomson a field day. Look at in SA how CJ was all "say no to drugs" and you got extra money when you beat up a drug pusher (showing that violence is better than drugs :D)


Have you heard of the game Narc? I haven't played it but according to review you can use all the drugs that you find in-game. So they MIGHT be okay implementing that, but im sure Jack would find a way to get around it.

[MGS4infoguy]

the only ones who want to do drugs in a game are ones who are real life drugies

[gabcde86]

i think they should make a no- prostitutes, good moralled GTA from another company that isnt called rockstar cos my parents are against rockstar :lol:

[adamba4e]

i think they should make a no- prostitutes, good moralled GTA from another company that isnt called rockstar cos my parents are against rockstar :lol:

Tell your parents to actually watch you play the game. There are a lot of parents that just do not like GTA because what they see on TV.


the only ones who want to do drugs in a game are ones who are real life drugies
No actually that is not true, I want drugs in the game but I do not do drugs.


lol wow dont take that whole space idea too serious, no way would i want the game totally in space that would be so stupuid but i still think "futuristic" could be cool but ray guns and things i think would take away from the realness of the game


rallyracr420
GTA 4 (Takes place in a Futurama type New New York futurescape)

im not the only one

A GTA set in the future is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, I would say more but I do not want to be banned for flaming you.

I actually hate those ideas where people are like I want hovering vehicles, and plasma guns, and plasma bazookas, and robots everywhere. (That gets me so angry)

[MGS4infoguy]

There is no point in doing drugs in a game period

[adamba4e]

Yeah there is a points in being able to sell, buy, smuggle and do drugs. It adds a lot of realism and dealing drugs in GTA will probably be really fun. Also, why do you think Tony Montana was able to take so many shots at the end of Scarface?

[D-Lee]

Yeah there is a points in being able to sell, buy, smuggle and do drugs. It adds a lot of realism and dealing drugs in GTA will probably be really fun. Also, why do you think Tony Montana was able to take so many shots at the end of Scarface?



Yeah the only problem with that is the bad publicity that GTA will inevitably receive. It's already getting bad publicity now without the drugs. But the glorifying of violence and sex is the main reason it's so controversial. Include drugs and they may just put a ban on the game in the U.S. So Rockstar has to be very careful with how far they go.

[adamba4e]

Actually they can not ban it (1st Amendment).

[D-Lee]

Well, ban in a figurative sense. They can change the rating to AO and cause all the national chains to pull it out of their stores. Just like with SA.

[adamba4e]

Stores can choose not to sell it, but the goverment can not force stores not to sell it.

[D-Lee]

Stores won't sell a game that has an AO rating slapped on it. It's probably against most company's policies.

[adamba4e]

A companies policy can be changed, maybe if Rockstar makes the right deal with the major retailers they will be fine.

[D-Lee]

Ok, well that brings in the other issue with AO games. The majority of the consumers of video games are children/teens. Parents usually see what their children buy. That results in an extreme decrease in monthly gains because the majority of the parents would not allow an AO game to be bought. It's just not a good financial move for rockstar to make the next GTA AO.

[ProtoJoe]

Yea, I highly doubt that Rockstar would make a move to make this gam AO. I can garuntee you that it is going to be VHERY boarderline, but I doubt they would go so far.

[adamba4e]

Drug use does not mean the game will get an Adults Only rating, unless there is sex the game it will probably get a M rating.

[D-Lee]

Not sure if you've snooped around lately but try going to www.GTA4.com or www.GrandTheftAuto4.com.

[adamba4e]

Not sure if you've snooped around lately but try going to www.GTA4.com or www.GrandTheftAuto4.com.

Those were both registered by Rockstar. I wonder how soon they will be coming.

[D-Lee]

Yeah. And it says coming soon... Could this be the proof of a new GTA game we've been waiting for??

[MGS4infoguy]

I just remembered that drugs have been in video games ever since Mario. With the mushrooms IE shrooms and hippie flower power and trippy worlds and stuff. It was a hippie game. So the most kiddiest game ever had drug references.

[smitty61]

Wow. Way to put it into perspective MGS4infoguy. If you think about it he really has a point too. Also if they do give it an AO rating I think Rockstar will make a deal with say Wal*Mart and such to sell the game because of how many sales they will have. In my little town Wal*Mart is all we have. I mean it's no big deal to me if they make it AO because my parents will still buy it for me anyways because they know about the game and don't really care what they do in the game. They know that I'm not stupid enough to go outside in real life and do that kind of stuff.

[MGS4infoguy]

I think AO games are treated like X rated movies aka porn which by law you stores and rental places can only sell/rent those in back rooms or behind the counter, cant be sold out in the open. And most stores and rental places wont sell/rent X rated stuff.

[DeputyDon]

Unless the game is actually showing sex I don't think ANY game should be above M. Rated R movies are worse than MOST M games. If the movie Pulp Fiction was made into a game, would it be M or AO? There is blood, drugs, sex, violence, whatever but the movie would still be rated R. That, imo, isn't right.

[smitty61]

Well all the rental stores in town rent porn and it's right out in the open. So I really don't think that law applies up here but I could be wrong. My friend even tried to rent the porn but the asked him for ID. IMO they should rate games the same way that they rate movies.

[adamba4e]

ADULTS ONLY
Titles rated AO (Adults Only) have content that should only be played by persons 18 years and older. Titles in this category may include prolonged scenes of intense violence and or graphic sexual content and nudity.

The only way a game will recieve a Adults Only rating is if it includes prolonged scenes of intense violence or sexual content and nudity, the AO rating is not meant for games that just include drugs.

[smitty61]

God of War had intense violence and nudity and that did not recieve an AO rating. Why should they make GTA AO when there is probabley shorter scenes of violence than in God of War. It's stupid that they like change the rule just for GTA. ESRB is out to get us GTA players. Like I sauid earliergames should be rated using the same system and the same raters that the movie industry uses.

[adamba4e]

They seperate all the different types of violence.


* Alcohol Reference - Reference to and/or images of alcoholic beverages
* Animated Blood - Discolored and/or unrealistic depictions of blood
* Blood - Depictions of blood
* Blood and Gore - Depictions of blood or the mutilation of body parts
* Cartoon Violence - Violent actions involving cartoon-like situations and characters. May include violence where a character is unharmed after the action has been inflicted
* Comic Mischief - Depictions or dialogue involving slapstick or suggestive humor
* Crude Humor - Depictions or dialogue involving vulgar antics, including “bathroom” humor
* Drug Reference - Reference to and/or images of illegal drugs
* Edutainment - Content of product provides user with specific skills development or reinforcement learning within an entertainment setting. Skill development is an integral part of product
* Fantasy Violence - Violent actions of a fantasy nature, involving human or non-human characters in situations easily distinguishable from real life
* Informational - Overall content of product contains data, facts, resource information, reference materials or instructional text
* Intense Violence - Graphic and realistic-looking depictions of physical conflict. May involve extreme and/or realistic blood, gore, weapons, and depictions of human injury and death
* Language - Mild to moderate use of profanity
* Lyrics - Mild references to profanity, sexuality, violence, alcohol, or drug use in music
* Mature Humor - Depictions or dialogue involving "adult" humor, including sexual references
* Mild Violence - Mild scenes depicting characters in unsafe and/or violent situations
* Nudity - Graphic or prolonged depictions of nudity
* Partial Nudity - Brief and/or mild depictions of nudity
* Real Gambling - Player can gamble, including betting or wagering real cash or currency
* Sexual Themes - Mild to moderate sexual references and/or depictions. May include partial nudity
* Sexual Violence - Depictions of rape or other sexual acts
* Simulated Gambling - Player can gamble without betting or wagering real cash or currency
* Some Adult Assistance May Be Needed - Intended for very young ages
* Strong Language - Explicit and/or frequent use of profanity
* Strong Lyrics - Explicit and/or frequent references to profanity, sex, violence, alcohol, or drug use in music
* Strong Sexual Content - Graphic references to and/or depictions of sexual behavior, possibly including nudity
* Suggestive Themes - Mild provocative references or materials
* Tobacco Reference - Reference to and/or images of tobacco products
* Use of Drugs - The consumption or use of illegal drugs
* Use of Alcohol - The consumption of alcoholic beverages
* Use of Tobacco - The consumption of tobacco products
* Violence - Scenes involving aggressive conflict

[D-Lee]

The only way a game will recieve a Adults Only rating is if it includes prolonged scenes of intense violence or sexual content and nudity, the AO rating is not meant for games that just include drugs.


What the hell do you call GTA? I think they're getting real lucky, not having an AO rating slapped on the box. I bet they're one category away.

[adamba4e]

The only way a game will recieve a Adults Only rating is if it includes prolonged scenes of intense violence or sexual content and nudity, the AO rating is not meant for games that just include drugs.


What the hell do you call GTA? I think they're getting real lucky, not having an AO rating slapped on the box. I bet they're one category away.

Yes, a M rating is one away from AO. AO is a designated rating that was made for games with a lot of nudity and sex.

[D-Lee]

No I meant one of those smaller categories.

[smitty61]

The only games that I could imagine geting an AO rating would be BMX XXX (and it didn't) and the Playboy game (which also didn't). If those games don't get AO then why the hell would GTA? It's so stupid what they are doing. They have no reason to make it AO.

[D-Lee]

Was there nudity in that playboy game? I don't think there was. And without nudity in a playboy mansion game why would you get it?

[ProtoJoe]

The only games that I could imagine geting an AO rating would be BMX XXX (and it didn't) and the Playboy game (which also didn't). If those games don't get AO then why the hell would GTA? It's so stupid what they are doing. They have no reason to make it AO.


Well those games had nudity, use but firstly, it was just nudity, nothing like very obvious indications of ppl having sex or anything. And yea there was nudity in Playboy, but twas just the female upper half.


The thing about what GTA, even though they have the Violence covered and a nudity here and there, stuff like drugs and stuff its just hinted at it, its not actually said. Same thing with Mario and the whole shrooms thing, that was more or less heavily hinted, but it was never actually said. In other words, if you didnt know about it from before, you wouldnt really know about it.

[MGS4infoguy]

Listen the only reason they gave San Andreas was is becuase of sex acts ie dry humping and doing the movments. Nudity alone wont count.

[Venger]

God of War has nudity (lots of it), even a sex mini game (healing after the fight with the hydra), though all you see is a end table shake and some sound effects. Don't think it got the same reaction.

[Steroyd]

God of War has nudity (lots of it), even a sex mini game (healing after the fight with the hydra), though all you see is a end table shake and some sound effects. Don't think it got the same reaction.

oh yeah see-thorugh clothes and a sex mini-game (although you don't see anything).

The American and Japaneese rating system is screwed up, what does it take to get a AO rating except blatent porn in games?

[adamba4e]

Back on the GTA topic.

What would you like to see in the next GTA?

[SessDMC]

Oh another $6 million black project please :D

[D-Lee]

I want to see more rpg style gameplay. Yet, still containing all of the GTA elements. No spells or crap like that. I mean weapon skill or something. I know they had that in SA but it was weak..

[adamba4e]

Why have I heard 3 people already say they want a GTA that has more RPG gameplay and/or FPS gameplay. That would be horrible, almost worse then a GTA set in the future.

[D-Lee]

Are you kidding? GTA did have rpg gameplay...It kinda seems like Rockstar is trying to mix all the genre's into one. They also added FPS style with the new targeting system. I think rockstars trying to make their own genre and it's called GTA. How many times have you heard "GTA style game"? A lot.

[adamba4e]

Rockstar has already perfected that genre. I did not notice anything RPG like in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and I beat it 9 times.

[D-Lee]

..........You learn new skills. You upgrade your weapons. The more you use the weapon the better you get. You become able to swim, use two guns at the same time. Now do you remember???

[adamba4e]

That was just improving your skills. I am fine with improving your skills.

[Steroyd]

Rockstar has already perfected that genre. I did not notice anything RPG like in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and I beat it 9 times.

dude the whole meter going up to increase attributes, like luck, fat, stamina, muscle and stuff.

You know how you went to the gym to gain muscle...
....
....
.... Now do you remember :?:

if they can expand on that on the PS3 it would be killer. :shock:

[D-Lee]

Well that's RPG style. And that's what I mean. I want them to incorporate more of that into the next game. I don't want to level up and use spells. I hate those kinds of games.

[adamba4e]

I thought you meant you wanted them to make the next GTA into one of those games where if you find a enemy you must go to a different screen and then you must use your Items to beat the person.

[D-Lee]

Hell no. That would suck dude. Imagine Tommy Vercetti walking down the street and all of a sudden *music* and you're sent to a screen with 3 chinese men and a tank. :lol:

[DeputyDon]

Hell no. That would suck dude. Imagine Tommy Vercetti walking down the street and all of a sudden *music* and you're sent to a screen with 3 chinese men and a tank. :lol:

Lol actually it would probably be more like a window breaking or whatever (The screen shattering crap) and then some upbeat Rap song, then you choose attack, throw, heal, call for tank, and run haha.

Attack --> sub menu -
M4
MP5
Ak-47
Sniper Rifle
Baseball bat :=P

Throw --> sub menu -
Grenade
Moltov Cocktail
C4

That would be the most halarious game ever though. Someone should make it, a whole new look on the RPG genre haha.

[Mika Mo 25]

i already said ray guns and stuff would take the realism away **** why cant you get what i mean. cool "futuristic" cars would be cool but not like hover cars :evil:

ok im all good now :wink:

i am a great fan of the GTA series, i have owned every GTA title that has been released to date besides the new gameboy ones. so i cant wait for the next installment

[smitty61]

I think that they should expand more on personalizing your character and improving him/her and stuff. I think it would be cool to have 2 story modes and have 1 be for a male character and the other for a female character.

[D-Lee]

I think customization will be a HUGE part in the GTA series. But having it so customizable that the story would have to change is going a bit far. The game may depend on the character being male.

[DeputyDon]

They could possibly make the game have two storylines, one from a male's perspective and the other from a female or possibly a different race. Then the two storylines have different missions, for the most part, and the storyline is different but they still have too do with each other. Kinda like the GTA3 guy being a Vital part of the GTA: SA's Storyline.

[D-Lee]

They could possibly make the game have two storylines, one from a male's perspective and the other from a female or possibly a different race. Then the two storylines have different missions, for the most part, and the storyline is different but they still have too do with each other. Kinda like the GTA3 guy being a Vital part of the GTA: SA's Storyline.


Waste of space. I'd rather have them just put in more crap for the amount of space a female storyline would take up.

[DeputyDon]

Yeah but seriously 50 Gb.. Im pretty sure they could make each storyline longer than SA and still have great graphics, physics, and AI. With a larger map or whatever you want to call it.

[D-Lee]

50 GB with the double layered blu-ray which may not come into existence until the second year of PS3. I don't know if I can wait that long for a new GTA.

[smitty61]

Maybe a lot more people would like to play from a female's perspective. I mean I think it would be cool to play aas a female for once. All GTA games have been males I think they should change it up a bit.

[D-Lee]

Maybe a lot more people would like to play from a female's perspective. I mean I think it would be cool to play aas a female for once. All GTA games have been males I think they should change it up a bit.


They did change it up when they made the african-american perspective. I don't know if being a woman would be as fun as CJ or Tommy.

[DeputyDon]

Possibly play as the girl, wtf was her name, from GTA 3 and San Andres. She ditched you for the GTA 3 guy, does he have a name? lol. I don't think so.

Anyways, that girl's perspective, it could turn out to be very interesting.

[smitty61]

Yea but even if they made 2 story lines they would still give the player a choice.

[D-Lee]

Possibly play as the girl, wtf was her name, from GTA 3 and San Andres. She ditched you for the GTA 3 guy, does he have a name? lol. I don't think so.

Anyways, that girl's perspective, it could turn out to be very interesting.


Yeah she was that freaky chick who was so damn irritating. Nah just let us go back to Tommy Vercetti.

[smitty61]

Possibly play as the girl, wtf was her name, from GTA 3 and San Andres. She ditched you for the GTA 3 guy, does he have a name? lol. I don't think so.

Anyways, that girl's perspective, it could turn out to be very interesting.

I think her name was Catalina something. It would be cool to have the optino of playing as her. Then they could bring in CJ and the GTA3 dude.

[DeputyDon]

If I had to choose out of any of them I would choose Mr. No Name. Tommy Vercetti, eh, I didn't like Vice City. Carl Johnson, he has personality and everything but I personally like GTA3 the best, so naturally I would like the main character the best also.

Oh and BTW I wouldn't want that girl because she was rather annoying and never shut up, always complaining. haha.

[smitty61]

Well now as long as she didn't talk to herself it would be okay to play as her. You just wouldn't want to do missions where there were other people riding with you. :lol:

[adamba4e]

i already said ray guns and stuff would take the realism away **** why cant you get what i mean. cool "futuristic" cars would be cool but not like hover cars :evil:

ok im all good now :wink:

i am a great fan of the GTA series, i have owned every GTA title that has been released to date besides the new gameboy ones. so i cant wait for the next installment

*off-topic*

You have are denying something that you have already said. You have said you wanted space shuttles launching into space and you want hover cars, just read your first post in this thread.


the addition of waverunners/jetskis would be pretty cool and the ability to drive thru for food. I hope since the PS3 is going to be so powerful that we can go into a lot more buildings. being able to launch in a space shuttle and actaully goin into space would be awsome, sorta like a futuristic GTA with flying cars and such. what do you guys tihnk about that?

*on topic*


50 GB with the double layered blu-ray which may not come into existence until the second year of PS3. I don't know if I can wait that long for a new GTA.

There was an article posted here awhile back that said TDK ha already started mass production of dual-layer Blu-ray discs.

[yang_wan1]

I just want R* to keep doing what they are doing but it would be nice if they at kept the timeline at the present and forget going back to the past. I also prefer, one main character (CJ), and I really don't like playing female characters for the most part. Especially in a game like this. Imagine escorting a male prostitute!!!!


*Offtopic**
I have always had this game idea in my head. Imagine a game that starts out with a state like san andreas. You start the game as a normal guy like carl. Your family is killed by some bad people, blah blah blah, story is too long and not important. Anyway, you can go for revenge just like carl. You are a normal human, you use guns, learn to fight, drive cars, bikes, planes, etc. You can do everything you can do in San Andreas and handles the same way.

However, half-way through the game you character gets into some accident (I'll just say that to keep it short) to get some super powers. Now you are like superman or dragonball z fighters. You can fly, super strenght, and other powers. You continue like this fighting regular criminals and ripping them to pieces with your new found powers. You can also disguise yourself and do stealth missions or hide your identity. (No corny costumes though) more like the matrix or dbz.

But you are not the only one and later in the game you will have to face others like you and there will be grand battles in the cities sort of like neo and Mr. Smith at the end of the matrix trilogy. You can still drive cars, walk, use guns and everything. But you also get to use these powers.

Well, I just read that former gta makers are coming out with a game similar to this. They only mentioned super strenght though, WOW!! But it is only for the 360 :(

Back to topic

Wouldn't it be nice as a bonus after beating the game in GTA4, you got some cool powers so you could smash through the city or replay the game with super powers. In my opinion, that would be tiiight.

[hoverbike]

However, half-way through the game you character gets into some accident (I'll just say that to keep it short) to get some super powers. Now you are like superman or dragonball z fighters. You can fly, super strenght, and other powers. You continue like this fighting regular criminals and ripping them to pieces with your new found powers.
I think that would be a good idea but the problem is that would ruin the GTA games forever. We need a different game like that, that's not GTA.

[yang_wan1]

However, half-way through the game you character gets into some accident (I'll just say that to keep it short) to get some super powers. Now you are like superman or dragonball z fighters. You can fly, super strenght, and other powers. You continue like this fighting regular criminals and ripping them to pieces with your new found powers.
I think that would be a good idea but the problem is that would ruin the GTA games forever. We need a different game like that, that's not GTA.

I know, I didn't mean GTA should be like that but was suggesting a different game like that. Notice I said at the end that it would be nice as a bonus if you finished the story of GTA 4 you could get those powers as a bonus.

[D-Lee]

I read in some article that San Andreas would be the end of the current GTA series. This also means that GTA 4 may start a whole new series including different time frame, totally different story and even different world.

PS: If you want the article I can find it.

[Alkemist]

Who would you guys like to see doing some voice work for the next GTA?

For me:
Bruce Willis
Laurence Fishburne
Larenze tate
John Travolta
Dane Cook
Tommy Lee Jones
Dave Chapelle
Johnny Depp
Ron Perlman (Voices "Teen Titans" Slade) Ever heard his voice in the series. Case Rested.
Harrison Ford
Michael Rapaport
Ving Rhames
Micheal Clark Duncan
Christopher Walken

[Sypherssj209]

Good list Alkemist, couldnt have a better list than that :)

[D-Lee]

Fitty
Ludacris
Lil Jon (WHAT, YEAH, OK)
Usher
Jay-z

[MGS4infoguy]

I hope the rap scene/theme in GTA 4 is more then half less then what it was in San Andreas. i hate rap

[D-Lee]

It hates you back :lol:. I loved SA primarily because of...It was GTA but also because of the early 90's, really prime good solid rap. Btw that sigs awesome. Go get it rated in General Chat.

[Tonic785]

woh man, that really your girl?

:twisted:

[yang_wan1]

I hope the rap scene/theme in GTA 4 is more then half less then what it was in San Andreas. i hate rap
Man what has rap done to you, shame, blatant hatred. By the way I hate MGS.

Nah, just joking, I love that game and rap. Give it a try dude, try the 90s rap, late 90s too. 2Pac is tha man.
Edit: Maybe rap is not for you!!

[Tonic785]

Who would you guys like to see doing some voice work for the next GTA?

For me:
Bruce Willis
Laurence Fishburne
Larenze tate
John Travolta
Dane Cook
Tommy Lee Jones
Dave Chapelle
Johnny Depp
Ron Perlman (Voices "Teen Titans" Slade) Ever heard his voice in the series. Case Rested.
Harrison Ford
Michael Rapaport
Ving Rhames
Micheal Clark Duncan
Christopher Walken

what 'bout ray liotta man?

his a man i can call "Cool", with no hesitation..

remember when he said.." i'll get the money, sonny"
and "i just wanted to piss you off before i kill you"...

memba tht? dayamn, tommy vercetti would be bloody chooong

[Sypherssj209]

What hes trying to say is cut the rap, I mean seriously, I couldnt turn on GTA:SA without having to listen to atleast a few songs of rap, and it gets repetitive, they should keep some in, just have a wider variety of music, rock, hip hop, rap, metal, nu metal, *shivers* country (some country songs were funny), also dont forget a couple Lynard Skynard songs in there, I mean free bird rocks!! they should put the whole song in this time...

[DeputyDon]

I read in some article that San Andreas would be the end of the current GTA series. This also means that GTA 4 may start a whole new series including different time frame, totally different story and even different world.

PS: If you want the article I can find it.

If the next one is named GTA 4 I'll believe it, but there is still a lot they could do with the current series. It wouldn't be that bad starting fresh on a new generation of systems, hopefully the storyline of the new series, if there is one, will be just as good, if not better.

[Alkemist]

Ha. :lol: All the hip hop bashing in this thread. Only those who are ignorant of hip hop bash it. The educated ones who know how to differenciate between "Hip Hop" and "Hip Pop", and actually know what REAL hip hop is would at the most say it's just not thier style. But i guarantee they wouldn't bash it.

But on having more variety, im all for it.

[hoyle]

if you thought sa was big i could imagine next gen being a hell of a lot bigger, i'd like to see it span 4 continants, 2 countries in each continant, 4 cities or towns in each country (N.America/Europe/Asia/Australasia), multiple characters (male and female) choose your starting character and build up a gang or take over an established gang.

more interaction with peds and inanimate objects, more vehicles to steal, more variety with missions, more intricate and strategic missions (able to save game half way through a long mission)

style your character, slightly stereotypical choices (heavy metal/rap/hip hop/house/garage/goth/punk/geek/jock/babe etc.) loads of styles of clothing, tattoes, peircing, hair, skin.

too many ideas to list i'll add more later.

[MGS4infoguy]

Ha. :lol: All the hip hop bashing in this thread. Only those who are ignorant of hip hop bash it. The educated ones who know how to differenciate between "Hip Hop" and "Hip Pop", and actually know what REAL hip hop is would at the most say it's just not thier style. But i guarantee they wouldn't bash it.

But on having more variety, im all for it.

has nothing to do with ignorance. I cant stand all rap period just like some cant stand country or metal.

Edit: and yes thats my girlfriend

[yang_wan1]

Would anyone want to replay san andreas with dante from devil may cry or have carl be able to do what he can, that would be funny. Don't get me wrong, I want gta to stay the same, I mean as a bonus for replay value for the story missions.

[Sypherssj209]

Nah, I would rather bonus missions more life like, GTA doesnt have anything to do with supernatural powers and such, they should keep it life like, the ability to nuke a city would be cool though :lol:

[adamba4e]

I read in some article that San Andreas would be the end of the current GTA series. This also means that GTA 4 may start a whole new series including different time frame, totally different story and even different world.

PS: If you want the article I can find it.

I read a few articles about how the next GTA will be a whole new series, that only means you will not see any of the old characters.

[D-Lee]

Which, really isn't a bad thing. But it could also mean a whole new world. What if they re-do miami? Or maybe they do the GTA: Sin City like everyone thought they would. Las Venturas was a pretty crappy representation of Vegas.

[adamba4e]

I don't think the the next GTA will take place in only one city, although I would like to see a 2006 version of Los Santos that is more similar to the real Los Angeles.

[D-Lee]

Yeah I agree. They really havent done anything the size of a real-life city. I think they should re-do Vegas. They butchered the strip. It was so stupid looking. They should have put more emphasis on the gambling/gaming part of Vegas too. You could only gamble in one casino. I want GTA 4 to be in Vegas and I want, at the end of the game to own my own line of casino's.

[adamba4e]

I really do not want to go to Las Venturas again. I think they will be able to make the next game take place in multiple cities that are the size of a real-life city, just look at what Activision is doing with True Crime New York (1200 square miles of New York City).

[D-Lee]

Yeah. But what city is more exciting than Vegas? Besides NYC(already done) I can't think of one. Los Angeles would be pretty cool but other than that...Maybe Tokyo. Tokyo would be interesting because I kind of liked the whole oriental mob thing in GTA3.

[adamba4e]

I would maybe like to see Tokyo for a few missions, but besides that I do not know how much I would like the martial arts.

[D-Lee]

You know..It doesn't matter how long we speculate about the location of the next GTA. We've discussed locations about 15 times in this one topic and we've heard nothing at all. Do we really know that R* will definately be making GTA 4 for PS3? I don't think we do. We need new information because speculating on what we have (Nothing) is getting very very boring.

[smitty61]

Imagine for a minute that you are in the 1920's bootlegging scandel. Your leader is AL Capone and you work for him. You are one of the bottom gangsters and your goal is to make it to the very top and kill Capone himself. It's 1920's Chicago and you are ready. Your favortie weapon is a Tommy gun and you are on your way up. Can you be the baddest gangster of all?

Now would that be a good setting and story for GTA 4?

[D-Lee]

It may be good for some people, but personally I like it to be more current. I loved GTA3 and SA because it was moderately current. Don't get me wrong I loved vice city too but I liked 3 and SA a lot more.

[adamba4e]

Imagine for a minute that you are in the 1920's bootlegging scandel. Your leader is AL Capone and you work for him. You are one of the bottom gangsters and your goal is to make it to the very top and kill Capone himself. It's 1920's Chicago and you are ready. Your favortie weapon is a Tommy gun and you are on your way up. Can you be the baddest gangster of all?

Now would that be a good setting and story for GTA 4?

Even though I would rather the next GTA be in modern time, I actually like that.

[Perfect Sin]

Yeah like some of your missions would be to fly out to major cities around the world to boost a certain car or kill a well known criminal.

[smitty61]

I think that would be good. And ome of your missions would be trying to sell as much aolchol as you can and there's a certain amount you have to sell in order to pass. And the police can do random searches on you for it.

[Perfect Sin]

The police would seach you for alcohol? It's not the prohibition and you're not a boot-legger. I liek the idea though, just substitute it for something illegal.

[adamba4e]

He is talking about his idea about a GTA in 1920, so yes it is the time of prohibition.

[smitty61]

I also think that in the 1920's GTA they should have a vehicle mission where you drive the gang car around ahd kill people for some reason or another.

[Tonic785]

WTF, GTA in 1920?

doesnt do it for me, and it isnt exactly mainstream :roll:
if you were to put GTA in the 1920's you would have to make the franchise more serious.. and if GTA got more serious it would NOT be GTA.
it would be like, what's that games name? Mafia!

GTA would become an adult rated game....
the only reason gTa doesnt get the much-debated Adult Rating is because of the cartoony graphics (or so i think).

i can't imagine those kind of graphics in the 1920's.
if the graphic's became more realistic, the game would lose it's appeal and would
most -definitely- get the AR -_-'


I might be alone in this, but i don't wanna buy my GTA from an adult shop/store
anytime soon...

*Back On (sort of) Topic*

Tokyo.. GTA....

that might be cool man, imagine jumping (with parachute inhand] off the
buildings, seeing as it's Tokyo.. the buildings would be reaching the skies :shock:

[ProtoJoe]

lol, you know whats the funniest thing. No matter how much speculation we go on, it may or may not be anything like what Rockstar actually does create....

But we still gonna love and play it! No matter what, there is going to be atleast one thing in the game you dont like...

[D-Lee]

But you gotta admit that speculating is really fun. It's almost like creating the game the way you want. Could you imagine helping create the best game of all time?

[Sypherssj209]

Speculation and waiting is one of the best parts about the game, I know that it was when I was waiting for San Andreas, once it had been released and I had finished it, all that feeling was gone... :|

[hoyle]

choose your character - male/female - nationality

more countries - USA / UK / Japan / China / Australia / Mexico / Spain / Italy

more freedom - buy property, steal anything, kidnap, smuggling, start businesses, create gangs, choose which country you start (determind by nationality), be put in prison for a period of time if caught.

the game needs to be longer, i played the game fairly slowly and still completed it within a month.

[adamba4e]

I have a question

What do you think Rockstar is capable of? Some seem to think that the next GTA will take place in mutliple countries, I think Rockstar is capable of making something big but I think they will make a state bigger then San Andreas.

[MGS4infoguy]

If they were to go with the MMPOG then they could do multipal countries.

USA, England, Japan, Russia, Cuba would be the best ones

[adamba4e]

I have never played a MMPOG, so how would that work (for GTA).

[The Chocobo Kid]

I have never played a MMPOG, so how would that work (for GTA).GTA MMPOG would be very hard to do here. just think about it. that would be oh so a big games. I mean I would pay to play a game like that. but you got to ask youself.

1. is the gameplay going to be fast as if it was off line or slow like to build up your char like a RPG

2. how would new people get around in a game with people who ben there longer then them.

3. will gangs be a problems for people that live where your char does. I mean what if a gang dont' like you and evertime they see you they are going to kill you and your a new person to the game.

4. when you die do you give up some of your money. b/c if you do alot of people are going to kill you over and over for your cash. Being rich is going to be hard.

5. GTA is seen as you being a bad guy, so I wonder will Rockstars let you be a police. I don't think so. AI would be police

6. would GTA be more real. I mean after you kill about 50 cops don't you think it would be some time before more came up.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you or some one esle can add on.

[viperman]

I dunno if this is a bit off topic but I a feeling R* will blow us away in the city they choose...well thats obivous but the thing i think is that Carl, Fido and Tommy might meet up or something or will have to enteract with each of them in the game, dunno just an opinon.

[D-Lee]

1. is the gameplay going to be fast as if it was off line or slow like to build up your char like a RPG

2. how would new people get around in a game with people who ben there longer then them.

3. will gangs be a problems for people that live where your char does. I mean what if a gang dont' like you and evertime they see you they are going to kill you and your a new person to the game.

4. when you die do you give up some of your money. b/c if you do alot of people are going to kill you over and over for your cash. Being rich is going to be hard.

5. GTA is seen as you being a bad guy, so I wonder will Rockstars let you be a police. I don't think so. AI would be police

6. would GTA be more real. I mean after you kill about 50 cops don't you think it would be some time before more came up.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you or some one esle can add on.


1.) make it Broadband only
2.)Tutorial
3.)That actually sounds like fun. Makes it more realistic
4.)You could respawn in a different location. Just don't be an idiot.
5.) GTA MMORPG should be like any other mmorpg where you can pick your own character/occupation
6.)The police would be the players so it could be like a huge game of cops and robbers with rpg elements.

[MGS4infoguy]

If you go back a few pages and read my huge outline for a GTA MMPOG it addresses all these problems.

[adamba4e]

When you guys say you want the next GTA to be a MMPOG, do you mean you want a MMPOG mode or do you want the whole game to be a MMPOG?

[Indifferent]

Would ps3 be able to handle making most of the buildings enter'able, even all of theM? :shock:

Hope they include a skate board too, sounds like it would be fun. :D

[SessDMC]

If love a GTA MMOPRG on the PS3 only, id love to get in urban camo and totally wire up some one elses hood that would be so awsome!

But like i say Make it a Spin off and not actually GTA 4 because we wall love to play that game

[PhantoK]

Would ps3 be able to handle making most of the buildings enter'able, even all of theM?
Well in the same way enterable as in SA it would be easy. (IMO anyways)
It could have been done in SA too but there really was need for it and they had limitations on disc space. So now with Blu-ray it shouldnt be a problem, BUT personally i really wouldnt need this. Since propably 70-80% of the houses wouldnt have anything exciting in them. So in my opinnion they shouldnt have all buildings enterable but instead have some enterable buildings (still way more than in SA) and have neat stuff in them.


When you guys say you want the next GTA to be a MMPOG, do you mean you want a MMPOG mode or do you want the whole game to be a MMPOG?
GTA as a MMPOG? Uhh... No thanks?
It just wouldnt be GTA anymore in my opinnion. I mean yeah sure there were some MMPOGish features in SA. (going to gyms/eating/bicycle skill...) But I personally HATED most of those things. I just want to play the missions and roam around in a huge enviroment, not have a schedule of things to do for the next 2 hours before i can have 15 min of free time and i have to use it to have lunch! (lol yes im exaggerating this but you get my point.)


5. GTA is seen as you being a bad guy, so I wonder will Rockstars let you be a police. I don't think so. AI would be police
That gave me an idea. What if in the next GTA you actually would be a cop, but working undercover to catch some big mob boss...
Well yeah sure that would mean you couldnt shoot cops... Unless you were to switch sides. (Lol. The most stupid idea EVER :lol: )

[Steroyd]

Well it'd be nice if you could do police missions and you'd have to hand cuff the criminals instead of killing them, a side mission type thing would be great or if you wear police clothings you can...

[DeputyDon]

That gave me an idea. What if in the next GTA you actually would be a cop, but working undercover to catch some big mob boss...
Well yeah sure that would mean you couldnt shoot cops... Unless you were to switch sides. (Lol. The most stupid idea EVER Laughing )



In Driver you are an undercover cop, Tanner, that is working to take down people from the criminal underworld. Basically GTA is the gangster side of it, and Driv3r was a version of the undercover cop scenario.

[smitty61]

That gave me an idea. What if in the next GTA you actually would be a cop, but working undercover to catch some big mob boss...
Well yeah sure that would mean you couldnt shoot cops... Unless you were to switch sides. (Lol. The most stupid idea EVER Laughing )



In Driver you are an undercover cop, Tanner, that is working to take down people from the criminal underworld. Basically GTA is the gangster side of it, and Driv3r was a version of the undercover cop scenario.

And in True Crime you are the cop. So they have all 3 scenarios covered. If you want to play a certain way then you can buy a certain game.

[DeputyDon]

Good Point ha, I kinda forgot about True Crime for a little bit. I hope they make New York a better game than LA (Bug-wise). So I guess those are the three big scenarios that you can choose from, I consider pretty much every game like those to be rip-offs. I haven't played 187 Ride or Die, but my guess is its just a GTA rip-off.


EDIT: Nevermind, 187 Ride Or Die, after reading the Gamespot review, is basically a gangster version of lets say "Spyhunter". lol

[smitty61]

But what Rockstar could do is give you an option of choosing to be one of the three and your storyline would be different each time.