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Chelsea has always been my favorite team and Arsenal was always been
my second...but now I have changed my feelings on the FA League
and now I think that its not all about having money, but also about
history, the fans, and tradition.
So Now I am officially an Arsenal Fan! *goes off to change his avatar*
YES!!!! We have another convert!!!
Arsenal really does look good. They've got some good young players mixed in with some amazing veterans. Sucks that Van Persie is injured, although he played a crucial role in the win over man utd.
Henry is back and scoring goals. Schevchenko.....well....yea....no, just no. Drogba is excellent form, but I have to give player of the year to Cristiano Ronaldo. I know everyone hates him but he is arguably the best player in the EPL (at age 22, i think).
Overall for me (general skill not based on this year's performance)
Best Striker: Thierry Henry
Best Midfielder: Frank Lampard
Defense: Its open but Gallas is pretty good.
Overall for me (general skill not based on this year's performance)
Best Striker: Thierry Henry
Best Midfielder: Frank Lampard
Defense: Its open but Gallas is pretty good.
good picks
mine....
Best Striker: Drogba, skill and amazing shots, quality finisher
Midfielder: Cristiano Ronaldo, every game he consistently tares up the right side of the field. He really is a defenders worst nightmare.
Defense: This is so wide open, Terry has proven his worth to Chelsea, after being out for 6 weeks (don't remember exactly how long), Chelsea is letting in almost 2 goals a game.
Goalkeeper: Tim Howard, hands down greatest talent in the EPL. I don't know why Manchester extended Van Der Sar's contract. I would look for Howard to make a huge impact on the American national team, especially with the Mexico fixture coming up.
What would be your line up for the American side against mexico?
Eddie Johnson Landon Donovan
Mastroeni
Beasely or Convey
Dempsey
Bocanegra
Albright Gouch Conrad Borenstein
Howard
Subs: Beasely/Convey, Ben Olsen, Jaqua, Mapp, Pearce and Boswell, Reis as backup.
Don't get me started with Eddie Johnson! Just look at his stats (well his "Experience"):
Link (http://kc.wizards.mlsnet.com/players/bio.jsp?team=t105&player=johnson_e&playerId=joh437318&statType=current)
But I still think Landon is the best American Player out there. :DD
What kind of football fan converts? That's blaspheme. However, my second team are Arsenal (Nottingham Forest are my first), due to the way they play, which is goddamn immaculate. Glad to see some people seeing that.
Edit: Oh you guys are from America, that makes it more forgiveable I guess.
My bad.
Oh and what is EPL?
Woohoo,another Arsenal fan.:mrgreen: Henry FTW!(my favorite player)
Steven Gerrard >>>>>>>>>> Frank Lampard
Just thought I'd let you in on that secret.
Don't get me started with Eddie Johnson! Just look at his stats (well his "Experience"):
Link (http://kc.wizards.mlsnet.com/players/bio.jsp?team=t105&player=johnson_e&playerId=joh437318&statType=current)
But I still think Landon is the best American Player out there. :DD
yea i know he's not all that great, but who's gonna replace McBride? Jaqua and Cooper have potential, and Freddy Adu needs to prove that he can be an international player. If Freddy can actually improve, I can see him playing up top with Landon.
EPL = English Premier League
The US is basically starting anew with many young players. We just lost a massive amount of talent (well massive for the US) in McBride, Reyna, Eddie Pope and Kasey Keller, all retired. So now they have to bring in a new breed of players that need to prove themselves. I see Dempsey and Donovan standing out as goal scorers, but they need someone to replace McBrides finishing. Cooper and Jaqua are the only ones powerful in the air but neither have quite the clinical finish that McBride has.
.....US needed Klinsmen if they wanted to go anywhere but they blew it!!!!!!
DINAMO788
01-28-2007, 00:36
one-Henry needs like 40 chances before he scores. i've seen so many games where all he does is dive, complain, and miss scoring chanced.
secondly, wtf FF you made a thread to tell people you like arsenal?
i like mozzarella cheese more than cheddar but you dont see me making a whole thread about it...
chopchopyep
01-28-2007, 00:39
Switching/Converting is news to me, some people take stuff like that very serious:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20070122-061951-4671r
:)
Chelsea played great football last year, with an organized unit under Mourinho that had the Premiership on lock.
Joe Cole - Drogba - Robben.
Forget the rest, the Shevchenko controversy, the Ashley Cole stuff, last years team was excellent.
Steven Gerrard >>>>>>>>>> Frank Lampard
Just thought I'd let you in on that secret.
Kaka>Stevie G>Frank
:-P
Gerrard wins in experience and willpower, Kaka in technique and goal scoring abilities.
Frank Lampard wins in hairstyle.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5972/lampardvm6.jpg
:lol:
Arsenal for the win!! Yup, you made the right choice. I've been a fan of Arsenal since i moved to england (when i was a strong cute handsome 3 year old).
KingJordan
01-28-2007, 00:58
Hmmmm, that happens to be my History teacher's favorite team.
one-Henry needs like 40 chances before he scores. i've seen so many games where all he does is dive, complain, and miss scoring chanced.
secondly, wtf FF you made a thread to tell people you like arsenal?
i like mozzarella cheese more than cheddar but you dont see me making a whole thread about it...
if you wanna talk diving you have to talk Drogba last season. This season he's shaped up but last season, he should have tried out for an Olympic diving team.;)
Cambridge United FTW!
but seriously if you want to support a team through history, fans and tradition, then you should be supporting liverpool!
drogba has done well this season, but come next season he will be back to his old ways me thinks! hehe
ShinMaruku
01-28-2007, 01:24
Manchester United!
I should be for another one but I'm too tied up in silliness.
ninjaboy
01-28-2007, 03:33
You know what the word "Arsenal" makes me think of? :suspect:
garyfitz
01-28-2007, 11:19
Nice to see you've stopped supporting that farce of a club but I hate people who convert to support different clubs. Next thing you'll be supporting the Mancs if they start dominating again. What's the point? Just so you can have boasting rights?
Goalkeeper: Tim Howard, hands down greatest talent in the EPL. I don't know why Manchester extended Van Der Sar's contract. I would look for Howard to make a huge impact on the American national team, especially with the Mexico fixture coming up.
Two years ago you might of been correct, but have you seen him play over the last two seasons? He's been terrible. He's at Everton for a reason :lol:
(LFC rule btw)
Bristol City FTW ! Stunning game against middelsboro on Saturday.
And if you want to talk about diving talk about Arjen Robben! dirty cheat !
However, my second team are Arsenal (Nottingham Forest are my first).
You sir scare me, just like you Nottingham Forest are my favourite team and the Gunners are my second fav, though with you living in Nottingham I'm not surprised you support them, for me it's not like Weston are even out of the Dr. Martin's League. :lol:
I can't believe I still have a Stan Collymore and a Steve Stone Forest shirt all those years ago (when they were in Division 1).:eek:
You sir scare me, just like you Nottingham Forest are my favourite team and the Gunners are my second fav, though with you living in Nottingham I'm not surprised you support them, for me it's not like Weston are even out of the Dr. Martin's League. :lol:
I can't believe I still have a Stan Collymore and a Steve Stone Forest shirt all those years ago (when they were in Division 1).:eek:
:D:D
Yes and I must run and put on the TV now!
Up the Reds!!!
secondly, wtf FF you made a thread to tell people you like arsenal?
i like mozzarella cheese more than cheddar but you dont see me making a whole thread about it...
All I did is make a soccer thread and to explain why I changed by avatar so
people don't ask...and this is the General Chit Chat Section...read the
descriptor it says "discuss anything". If you had nothing good to say then
why post here...seriously man. And don't bother responding to this or posting
in here because I know what you have to say isn't anything constructive.
Naboomagnoli
01-28-2007, 14:14
Since people were discussing the best players of this season etc, I feel compelled to put a word in for a couple of people. Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra really have been phenomenal this season. With Ashley Cole's shocking form thus far, Patrice Evra is almost certainly the best left-back in the Premiership at this moment in time. The fact that he has been keeping a wonderful defender in Gabriel Heinze out of the team is a terrific achievement in itself. He has impressed me with the strength in a lot of his tackling, he is arguably faster than Thierry Henry which is essential for a defender's recovery time, and he is a potent threat coming forward. What's more, he has been extremely consistent in his performances.
Meanwhile Nemanja Vidic has been our John Terry. He's not the fastest centre back, but that doesn't matter when you have the positional awareness and knack for getting something on the ball that this man has. He is as strong as an ox, and is incredible in the air - last night against Pompey he made Sol Campbell look like Claude Makelele on more than one occasion.
After a dodgy start this time last year, both players really have stamped their authority on every game they play and are overlooked by some as reasons why Utd are sitting pretty atop the league.
Has everyone forgotten Van Persie?
Naboomagnoli
01-28-2007, 15:15
Yes, and quite right too ;)
He's been very good when he hasn''t been injured, he just hasn't been as good as Drogba or Ronaldo yet.
You cant convert when it comes ot English football. If you did then you weren't a fan of the other team to begin with :P
And if your change was because of fans and tradition... why Arsenal? LOL. Liverpool have more tradition and loyal fans support than the top 4 teams put together (not including themselves of course.) Also Newcastle have great, die-hard fans aswell.
Since people were discussing the best players of this season etc, I feel compelled to put a word in for a couple of people. Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra really have been phenomenal this season. With Ashley Cole's shocking form thus far, Patrice Evra is almost certainly the best left-back in the Premiership at this moment in time. The fact that he has been keeping a wonderful defender in Gabriel Heinze out of the team is a terrific achievement in itself. He has impressed me with the strength in a lot of his tackling, he is arguably faster than Thierry Henry which is essential for a defender's recovery time, and he is a potent threat coming forward. What's more, he has been extremely consistent in his performances.
Meanwhile Nemanja Vidic has been our John Terry. He's not the fastest centre back, but that doesn't matter when you have the positional awareness and knack for getting something on the ball that this man has. He is as strong as an ox, and is incredible in the air - last night against Pompey he made Sol Campbell look like Claude Makelele on more than one occasion.
After a dodgy start this time last year, both players really have stamped their authority on every game they play and are overlooked by some as reasons why Utd are sitting pretty atop the league.
Evra had a phenomenal game against Arsenal last week. He has been playing well, and Vidic has step up as well. I haven't seen much of Ferdinad lately.
Yes, and quite right too :wink:
He's been very good when he hasn''t been injured, he just hasn't been as good as Drogba or Ronaldo yet.
Yup he's been solid and scored some quality goals. Scored the leveler against Man Utd last week in the 11th hour, shadowed by Henry's Heroics in the dying seconds.
Funny thing, I guess you guys haven't heard yet. Van Persie broke his 5th metatarsal (pinky toe) in his right foot. Out for 6 weeks, first Henry with his neck and now Van Persie. Adebayor is going get a lot of time through the end of the season.
And if your change was because of fans and tradition... why Arsenal? LOL. Liverpool have more tradition and loyal fans support than the top 4 teams put together (not including themselves of course.) Also Newcastle have great, die-hard fans aswell.
Technically Arsenal have had more history, as they've been around for longer.
Significant good and bad history, sure Liverpool have the edge. Not by a great deal though, and certainly not in recent times.
I think what the dude was getting at was a balance between tradition and money or whatever he was going on about. It'll be interesting to see if he changes if/when Liverpool get taken over by Dubai.
Secondly, If I had a choice about who I supported (Some would say I do, but I say no I don't, it's in my blood) I would support Arsenal. Why? Because as a lover of football I can see they play one of the most visual appealing and impressive styles of football out there, pretty much no debate needed. Whereas Liverpool almost, almost being the operative word there, play Championship style football (Not in terms of thier actual winning ability, just style), and have little to no ethos of play or natural continuity between players.
Class seeps from a couple of GREAT players for Liverpool, whereas Arsenal almost all the players seep class but most not quite to the extent of the great Liverpool players, except probably Henry.
On another note; an interesting factiod I was told:
Arsenal actually got there red colours from Forest. When Arsenal started they couldn't afford a strip so Forest gave them some of thier spares, thus Arsenal got thier colours.
I dunno if that's accurate or not, it's just what I've been told
Yes I agree with you. Arsenal play some of the most attractive football in the league. The whole team is built around flowing football and when its working right, its amazing.
And I agree about Liverpool aswell. They do play football in a championship way, which as with Arsenal, is great when its working. But at the moment both teams seem to really hit a roadblock when it comes to consistency. They are very similar in that way.
Henry and Stevie G are in a class of their own.
converting?!? blasphemy!!! i am just joking but i'll give you a pass since you said it was your second favorite team. Gerrard is an excellent midfielder lampard is overhyped imo.
ShinMaruku
01-29-2007, 04:39
You know what the word "Arsenal" makes me think of? :suspect:
WMDs. Them guy's feet are WMDs...
Arsenal has arguably the best possession play in the EPL. They don't allow the opposition any time of possession. They are very good at passing around the back and waiting for their opportunities. Fabregas has been clutch for them at midfield. So young (19) but such skill, it sucks he doesn't get more caps for Spain he deserves some time on the national squad.
All I did is make a soccer thread
People do think it's blasphemous to switch clubs, but there's something even more blasphemous than switching teams, calling Footy Soccer.:evil:
Chelsea has always been my favorite team and Arsenal was always been
my second...but now I have changed my feelings on the FA League
and now I think that its not all about having money, but also about
history, the fans, and tradition.
So Now I am officially an Arsenal Fan! *goes off to change his avatar*
What the hell? :suspect:
That's like saying oh screw it i don't support Liverpool anymore I'll support Man U or Everton instead.... you...just...don't.
How on earth you could like Chelsea as your number one team then like Arsenal as number 2 you must be on drugs they're bloodbath rivals... not in the same league as Liverpool v Man U but nevertheless.
Rule no. 1. If your going to support more than one Football team don't support two from the same country, or it'll be classed as blasphemous.
Overall for me (general skill not based on this year's performance)
Best Striker: Thierry Henry
Best Midfielder: Frank Lampard
Defense: Its open but Gallas is pretty good.
Whatdamotherduck!?!
You must have missed the Liverpool v Chelsea match last week when Chelsea had no spine at all and their captain Fat Lampard wasn't non existent in midfield.
Gerrard >>>>>>>>>>> Fat Frank
Me personally i respect Arsenal as a team that gives off entertaining football but that's all it'll ever be respect.
And I agree about Liverpool aswell. They do play football in a championship way, which as with Arsenal, is great when its working. But at the moment both teams seem to really hit a roadblock when it comes to consistency. They are very similar in that way.Yeh, Consistency seems to be the main issue with both of these clubs other the past 2 seasons I think.
People do think it's blasphemous to switch clubs, but there's something even more blasphemous than switching teams, calling Footy Soccer.Bareing in mind he isn't from the UK I don't think it's too bad to switch clubs. Heck I used to love the Bulls back in the day, then when I got back into basketball they were nothing and I sided with the Lakers.
It is blaphemy on the Soccer name business. Imagine calling Baseball Rackor, or something.
Rule no. 1. If your going to support more than one Football team don't support two from the same country, or it'll be classed as blasphemous.Eh? I don't agree with that. Lots of die-hard fans of lower league clubs have second teams from the same country (England). Maybe as your a fan of slow and steady and lucky Liverpool you're not used to the plights of the lower league fan. When they finally meet you throw away all alligences to your second club of course.
Gerrard >>>>>>>>>>> Fat FrankThat's more than a little over the top. While I do think Gerrard is a better player, and much better all round, Frank is a less rounded player (Someone could fit a joke in there if they wanted). But there's no way it's to that extent that you seem to have suggested
Naboomagnoli
01-30-2007, 02:42
That's more than a little over the top. While I do think Gerrard is a better player, and much better all round, Frank is a less rounded player (Someone could fit a joke in there if they wanted). But there's no way it's to that extent that you seem to have suggested
I really want to oblige with that joke..
Seriously, I do think Supergoals is slightly overrated. He is a very good footballer - overrated does not equal bad - but he's never been a patch on Scholes in his prime (has anyone noticed I'm a Utd fan yet?). Contrary to what Steve McClaren said on MotD, I really don't think they can play well together as they both thrive on being the star of the (midfield) show, relying on others to cover for them so they can have the freedom to use their attacking prowess to full effect. Installing Hargreaves was a major breakthrough for England as it gave us that solid backbone we've been craving for several years; now we need to accept that Gerrard is not a winger. Considering Joe Cole is the current favourite in the left-wing position (Downing is a bog standard winger in everything except crossing), we can't have our right flank occupied by someone else who wants to be in the centre - it makes us far too narrow, much like Liverpool in the Houllier days. We need more variety and space in which to manufacture opportunities.
I really want to oblige with that joke..
Seriously, I do think Supergoals is slightly overrated. He is a very good footballer - overrated does not equal bad - but he's never been a patch on Scholes in his prime (has anyone noticed I'm a Utd fan yet?). Contrary to what Steve McClaren said on MotD, I really don't think they can play well together as they both thrive on being the star of the (midfield) show, relying on others to cover for them so they can have the freedom to use their attacking prowess to full effect. Installing Hargreaves was a major breakthrough for England as it gave us that solid backbone we've been craving for several years; now we need to accept that Gerrard is not a winger. Considering Joe Cole is the current favourite in the left-wing position (Downing is a bog standard winger in everything except crossing), we can't have our right flank occupied by someone else who wants to be in the centre - it makes us far too narrow, much like Liverpool in the Houllier days. We need more variety and space in which to manufacture opportunities.
Yes I totally agree with you on all points.
Although I'm not a big fan of Hargreaves, he's a bit one dimensional for my liking (perhaps a little too 'old school'), but if that wins us games I'm not too fussed.
When I saw Hargreaves play for the first time in the World Cup, I thought he had to be easily one of the best players in the tournament, I have never seen anyone work so hard in every game the play constantly runing for 90 minutes and then some (including extra time), does he have an infinite supply of energy or something? That's what I call endurance and a half.
Old style yes, but I've often liked the old style play of football, it was so fast and brutal. :DD
I dunno bout easily one of the best player of the tournament, but he was probably our best player especially in the latter stages (Although when you think of the performance of our other players it's kinda easy to get into that status). But then again a few other big teams underperformed (eg. brazil).
Old style yes, but I've often liked the old style play of football, it was so fast and brutal.
I love old style football too, I just don't think the two styles mesh to well. Especially in the centre of the park.
If you think about it, there are still some players that play with an old style, Hargreaves is one of them, but if there's one thing that I've found, is that those that play in an old style tend to be the best players on the pitch. Think of it as these players/ex-recent players:
Tony Adams
Stuart Pearce
Owen Hargreaves
Sol Campbell
Paul Scholes
Nicky Butt
Alan Shearer
Of course there are a plethora of other players, including the entire Brazillian football players, that play old style, and just look at them, always the ones that stand out on the pitch because they're doing something very different, and they're always the best.
I really do wish that England would go back to their old style of play, but I think it's the ***** factor of droping to the floor in agony over a tap on the shoulder that's stopping it from happening.