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ps3freak18

02-12-2012, 04:40

Glad to see many people giving our man some love. The dude just keeps doing everything and he is always overshadowed by someone. Peyton twice and Rodgers this year. Drew Brees is New Orleans. He's done so much to cement his status there that they won't let him leave. They are going to lose Colston or Carl Nicks in my opinion to keep Drew on. I would not have any argument with Meachem going for sure though. Not a bad player just never lived up to the first round talent that the Saints drafted him at. But rest assured Brees is going no where. Would have been like the Colts letting Peyton go 2 years ago.

FdMstng99

02-13-2012, 11:58

I would value Carl Nicks over Colston, would rather have that protectionf or Brees. Saying that I wouldn'tm ind Colston coming to the Ravens.

ps3freak18

02-13-2012, 16:46

I would value Carl Nicks over Colston, would rather have that protectionf or Brees. Saying that I wouldn'tm ind Colston coming to the Ravens.

I want Nicks around as well, but he is one of the best linemen in the league. Therefore he is going to want to be paid like one. So mixing that with Drew's contract probably won't happen. Unless they franchise tag him. But I saw a mock of potential free agent moves and they had Meachem going to your guys. Wouldn't hurt my feelings. Maybe the Ravens can figure out how to make him a great player. He just never lived up here. He is a tremendous deep threat though, if he catches it.

admartian

02-13-2012, 18:56

I would value Carl Nicks over Colston, would rather have that protectionf or Brees. Saying that I wouldn'tm ind Colston coming to the Ravens.

Wouldn't be able to afford either.

I don't tihnk we'd even be able to afford Flacco's new contract, Ray's, Webb, and even Grubbs. Soemthing has to give.

I want Nicks around as well, but he is one of the best linemen in the league. Therefore he is going to want to be paid like one. So mixing that with Drew's contract probably won't happen. Unless they franchise tag him. But I saw a mock of potential free agent moves and they had Meachem going to your guys. Wouldn't hurt my feelings. Maybe the Ravens can figure out how to make him a great player. He just never lived up here. He is a tremendous deep threat though, if he catches it.

Not with Cam Cam on board and his silly Air Coryell system.

I still don't get that our FO and coaching staff think that only10% of people want Cameron out as OC.

Sounds like denial to me... :roll:

ps3freak18

02-13-2012, 21:52

Wouldn't be able to afford either.

I don't tihnk we'd even be able to afford Flacco's new contract, Ray's, Webb, and even Grubbs. Soemthing has to give.

Not with Cam Cam on board and his silly Air Coryell system.

I still don't get that our FO and coaching staff think that only10% of people want Cameron out as OC.

Sounds like denial to me... :roll:

Man I wish the Saints could get Webb! Dude is a beast.

$Greatness$

02-14-2012, 07:45

Man I wish the Saints could get Webb! Dude is a beast.

Hands off, buddy!

admartian

02-14-2012, 19:58

I tihnk I'd pitch in just so we could keep Webb.

How does $20 sound Baltimore Ravens front office? :snicker

The Black Wolf

02-14-2012, 21:48

Man, Cam Cameron is awesome! He runs the best offense and makes the best play calls! He should be the head coach . . . :snicker

admartian

02-14-2012, 21:53

Man, Cam Cameron is awesome! He runs the best offense and makes the best play calls! He should be the head coach . . . :snicker

don't even try with that jinx attempt.

that would really suck. :(

The Black Wolf

02-14-2012, 21:54

don't even try with that jinx attempt.

that would really suck. :(

I was messing with Ravens' fans, it's just a little joke. :)

Cam as head coach is a bad idea, you should see what he did to the 2007 Dolphins.

admartian

02-14-2012, 21:59

I was messing with Ravens' fans, it's just a little joke. :)

Cam as head coach is a bad idea, you should see what he did to the 2007 Dolphins.Yeah, that's what I thought. ;)

If he can't get the players in the position to produce next year, then he REALLY does need to be let go.

$Greatness$

02-15-2012, 03:38

Yeah, that's what I thought. ;)

If he can't get the players in the position to produce next year, then he REALLY does need to be let go.

Cam doesn't have the players to make his system work correctly all the time. But above all, his inability to make adjustments is ruining the offense, too.

FdMstng99

02-15-2012, 15:53

I was messing with Ravens' fans, it's just a little joke. :)

Cam as head coach is a bad idea, you should see what he did to the 2007 Dolphins.

Cam as a head coach would be a great idea, just as long as it means he's not here anymore.

I wouldn't mind the Ravens picking up Meachem but would rather us lock up our own guys first. I just don't think we have enough room under the cap to sign everyone and I think Grubbs is on the way out.

The Boy From School

02-15-2012, 17:16

Peyton signs with Miami. You heard it here first. ;)

R_Mac_1

02-15-2012, 22:01

Cam doesn't have the players to make his system work correctly all the time. But above all, his inability to make adjustments is ruining the offense, too.

Sounds exactly like an OC I've had to deal with the past two years...

*cough*Martz*cough*

The Black Wolf

02-16-2012, 00:17

Peyton signs with Miami. You heard it here first. ;)

Lol, even if I wanted it to happen, it would only happen in me dreams. :)

$Greatness$

02-16-2012, 03:57

Cam as a head coach would be a great idea, just as long as it means he's not here anymore.

I wouldn't mind the Ravens picking up Meachem but would rather us lock up our own guys first. I just don't think we have enough room under the cap to sign everyone and I think Grubbs is on the way out.

Trust in the Wizard of Oz! Don't personally think that Meacham would be a good fit here. I'd rather us go after Mario Manningham if we can't get my personal football savior, Randy Moss. (Really, I swear by Moss) As I said couple post up, Cam needs tall, fast WR's to make his system work. Having Boldin on Go-Routes is LOL. That's one of the reasons his system doesn't work here completely. But it could. As much as Raven fans hate him, it could work.

Lol, even if I wanted it to happen, it would only happen in me dreams. :)

You don't want Peyton on your team?! You want Mike Flynn don't you. :lol:

admartian

02-16-2012, 08:23

$Greatness$

02-16-2012, 08:38

If only we had Clarence Moore back... :snicker

Oh my God, son! You made me spit out my grape drank! That was fuckin' hilarious. Man, what a fraud he was. That made my day.

Side note, though, am I the only one who thinks that a bold move by the front office could be a Boldin' cut? He was brought here to be the number 1 WR (laughs) but he hasn't materialized yet in 2 seasons.

admartian

02-16-2012, 09:26

Oh my God, son! You made me spit out my grape drank! That was fuckin' hilarious. Man, what a fraud he was. That made my day.

Side note, though, am I the only one who thinks that a bold move by the front office could be a Boldin' cut? He was brought here to be the number 1 WR (laughs) but he hasn't materialized yet in 2 seasons.
I think he's earned his keep. TBH, when we first broguht him in, I didn't think he would be very explosive.

He's been about on par. Maybe not setting the world on fire, but respectable.

Oh, and did you mean 'grape juice'? ;)
:snicker

FdMstng99

02-16-2012, 16:01

Trust in the Wizard of Oz! Don't personally think that Meacham would be a good fit here. I'd rather us go after Mario Manningham if we can't get my personal football savior, Randy Moss. (Really, I swear by Moss) As I said couple post up, Cam needs tall, fast WR's to make his system work. Having Boldin on Go-Routes is LOL. That's one of the reasons his system doesn't work here completely. But it could. As much as Raven fans hate him, it could work.

You don't want Peyton on your team?! You want Mike Flynn don't you. :lol:

In Ozzie we trust and trust him not to pick up Moss. The guy is done, all these reports about him still running a 4.3 is insane. If he can do it then go out there run it then let the offers pour in until then no thanks!!

Would still like Colston, I don't think Manningham is anything special.

I could see Flynn going to Miami since Philbin coached him for about 4 years and knows what he's about.

The Black Wolf

02-16-2012, 17:53

You don't want Peyton on your team?! You want Mike Flynn don't you. :lol:

Or Robert Griffin the 3rd. :)

ps3freak18

02-16-2012, 21:33

I sure hope that we don't lose Colston. Although the Saints don't center around one key guy like most offenses do, he is a crucial part to the offense. I'm sure they will work something out on the roster to keep him around. Hopefully we can get rid of Meachem and Nicks (Although I don't want that either but he can be replaced through the draft.) to keep Colston around. Best possession receiver we have. Drafting a great OL will be pretty hard for the Saints since they have their second round pick as their first. It is a late pick at that. They will figure something out though. It isn't the Saints of the past thank goodness!

$Greatness$

02-17-2012, 01:02

Just curious, what do you guys think Joe Flacco is worth? I'm in the 80-90 million dollar range. He's two frauded catches away from two back-to-back Superbowls.

admartian

02-17-2012, 01:51

I think he's worth between $70-80 million. But I wouldn't be surprised if he got that much.

ps3freak18

02-17-2012, 03:59

I say about 60-70 million. He is a solid QB no doubt but the Ravens rely heavily on their running game. He is just right under that elite status in my opinion. I would place him about 7th in the league out of current QBs. He definitely deserves to be paid though. Flaco is a tremendous asset to the Ravens.

bash

02-17-2012, 04:03

$60-$70 million for 5-6 years with 25ish guaranteed.

ps3freak18

02-17-2012, 04:36

$60-$70 million for 5-6 years with 25ish guaranteed.

Exactly what I was thinking. I have a strong feeling that this is the actual contract that he will get. Something around 65 mil for 6 years.

FdMstng99

02-21-2012, 11:54

$60-$70 million for 5-6 years with 25ish guaranteed.

I'm happy with that but we still need to lock Ray Rice up. Flacco can wait, he still has another year on his current contract.

admartian

02-21-2012, 19:18

The Black Wolf

02-21-2012, 19:32

I'd definitely sign Rice long term; he deserves it and his production shows it.

Is it just me, or does RGIII seem like he has an attitude problem?

ps3freak18

02-22-2012, 04:37

He's a bit cocky but no where near the cockiness of Cam Newton. The way I look at it if you are a College athlete and sitting on top of the world you are almost definitely going to be a little cocky. But Newton took that to a new level. I really can't stand the dude.

FdMstng99

02-22-2012, 11:53

I LOVE Rice (both as a player and person). But to be realistic, RBs are pretty much exchangeable.

I'm not saying to let him go or anything. But if we were to lose him, I'd be fine with it as long as we had a young promising prospect waiting in the wings.

Rice will be franchised tagged for this year, if he's released it will be next year. Would be hard to loose him since he makes up alot of our offense.

The Black Wolf

02-23-2012, 02:33

ps3freak18

02-23-2012, 04:18

Whew, glad someone else agrees. I thought it was just me, everyone seems to love the guy.

Being an LSU fan I saw Cam Newton a good bit because of watching the SEC any chance I got. He is a through and through "me" individual. No rookie should ever be as cocky as he was this past year but he did it. I honestly don't think that he will be a good QB in the NFL to boot. I look at him just like I look at Vince Young...average. RG3 on the other hand has shown some cockiness but he is mostly humble from what I can tell. Plus he has the whole package unlike most of the running QBs like Young and Newton. His first instinct isn't going to be run because he is a serious deep threat and has a cannon. He is projected right under Luck for a reason.

FdMstng99

02-23-2012, 15:57

Anyone watching the NFL Combine? Can't right now but will when I get off of work.

FdMstng99

02-24-2012, 16:59

I can't be the only one here that watches the NFL combine?

The Black Wolf

02-25-2012, 01:26

They haven't really started the combine drills just yet. They've done measurements and RGIII is 6'2.

The combine doesn't get fun until the 2nd day, when the RBs, WRs, and etc run the 40 and all that. I want to see how fast Trent Richardson is.

ps3freak18

02-26-2012, 00:08

Haven't had a chance to sit down and watch it but I'm watching the post coverage of today now. Gonna check out all the stats for sure.

The Boy From School

02-26-2012, 17:47

Meh.

DayWalker

02-26-2012, 18:20

the combine is hard to watch.

I'd rather read about results and then look up the videos if necessary.

$Greatness$

02-26-2012, 21:10

It can be at times, but its still awesomesauce. Let's pray the Ravens get the draft steals again this year.

admartian

02-26-2012, 21:40

I'm just hoping we shore up the OL. Looking more likely that Grubbs will leave. Would like some young blood for Centre as Matt Bark ain't retiring, and we need a legit LT (even though Big Mac was decent enough).

ps3freak18

02-27-2012, 03:06

Really crazy at the amount of Raven fans on here. Although I like them as well. One of my favorites from the AFC.

The Black Wolf

02-28-2012, 01:21

Anyone watch NFL Total Access tonight? Jason's mock draft makes the most sense out of all of them. I just hate the thought of the Dolphins taking a RT with a top 10 pick.

admartian

02-28-2012, 02:22

Wow, Vontaze Burfict running a 5.09. Looks like we'll be able to steal him in Rounds 3 through 5 after all. :snicker

FdMstng99

02-28-2012, 15:53

Wow, Vontaze Burfict running a 5.09. Looks like we'll be able to steal him in Rounds 3 through 5 after all. :snicker

Read earlier that his interviews with teams didn't go well either. Kids draft stock is just crashing right now. I just want the Ravens to stay far far away.

Also read that the Ravens are putting a deal together for Grubbs, hope it's true. I also don't want no part of Matt Birk, I just keep seeing Wilfork pushing him back right into Flacco during that playoff game.

admartian

02-28-2012, 18:51

Read earlier that his interviews with teams didn't go well either. Kids draft stock is just crashing right now. I just want the Ravens to stay far far away.

Also read that the Ravens are putting a deal together for Grubbs, hope it's true. I also don't want no part of Matt Birk, I just keep seeing Wilfork pushing him back right into Flacco during that playoff game.It wouldn't be bad for us to nab him in the 2nd day or so though. I'd like Hightower, but we need a Center (Konz please! *fingers crossed*) or an OT (anyone will do, this is a fairly deep position) in the 1st.

There are plenty of WRs so I'm not too worried about that.

R_Mac_1

02-29-2012, 01:30

Everything I hear about Burfict just gets worse and worse. I certainly hope the Bears don't draft him, as they are likely to grab at least 1 LB in the draft.

$Greatness$

02-29-2012, 04:16

Everything I hear about Burfict just gets worse and worse. I certainly hope the Bears don't draft him, as they are likely to grab at least 1 LB in the draft.

The Bears need draft krama for dicking my Ravens out of their 4th-round pick! I personally ain't mad though, yo. I want Stephen Hill and I want 'em now!

R_Mac_1

02-29-2012, 09:02

The Bears need draft krama for dicking my Ravens out of their 4th-round pick! I personally ain't mad though, yo. I want Stephen Hill and I want 'em now!
LoL. I thought you might bring that up.

At least Jerry Angelo is gone now. It seems he was as incompetent confirming draft trades as he was actually identifying talent in the draft.

$Greatness$

02-29-2012, 14:56

LoL. I thought you might bring that up.

At least Jerry Angelo is gone now. It seems he was as incompetent confirming draft trades as he was actually identifying talent in the draft.

Y'all need a WR in the worse way. What Cutler's been able to do with that WR tandem is nothing short of amazing. lol

FdMstng99

02-29-2012, 15:51

It wouldn't be bad for us to nab him in the 2nd day or so though. I'd like Hightower, but we need a Center (Konz please! *fingers crossed*) or an OT (anyone will do, this is a fairly deep position) in the 1st.

There are plenty of WRs so I'm not too worried about that.

Would love the Ravens to pick up Konz in the first. Another good center would be Molk out of Michigan later in the draft or even Ohio States Brewster.

Y'all need a WR in the worse way. What Cutler's been able to do with that WR tandem is nothing short of amazing. lol

Forte helps with that I'm sure.

admartian

02-29-2012, 20:31

Would love the Ravens to pick up Konz in the first. Another good center would be Molk out of Michigan later in the draft or even Ohio States Brewster.

Forte helps with that I'm sure.
Yes, Molk in the mid-rounds would be good.

Our cap doesn't seem like we'll pick up anyone usefull in FA.

R_Mac_1

02-29-2012, 23:24

Y'all need a WR in the worse way. What Cutler's been able to do with that WR tandem is nothing short of amazing. lol

Yeah, when Johnny Knox and Roy Williams are your top two receivers...you got problems. I honestly think Earl Bennett is a good receiver, with the addition of a true number 1 guy and another #2/3 type player we'd be sitting pretty decent.

$Greatness$

03-01-2012, 01:04

admartian

03-01-2012, 01:47

Fordy, Admart...

Link (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1665228/stephen-hill)

He won't be there at 29. I want him bad. I willing to sacrifice getting a top-rated O-linemen to grab this kid. I think he's going to be All-World. Randy Moss (Great of All-Time) All-World. He, Flacco and Doss will be Greatness! I'm still not sold on Torrey Smith, but I do like 'em.Seems like a good player. But purely a luxury pick at this point for us. No point drafting this kid when our O-line wouldn't be able to block long enough to throw to him.

Wouldn't hate it though. I'm guessing you rather Hill over Alshon?

For some reason, I'm seeing Heyward-Bey or Troy Williamson all over again, with this kid.

$Greatness$

03-01-2012, 02:07

Seems like a good player. But purely a luxury pick at this point for us. No point drafting this kid when our O-line wouldn't be able to block long enough to throw to him.

Wouldn't hate it though. I'm guessing you rather Hill over Alshon?

For some reason, I'm seeing Heyward-Bey or Troy Williamson all over again, with this kid.

Blasphemy! PURE BLASPHEMY! And I do like him over Jefferey

admartian

03-01-2012, 02:21

Blasphemy! PURE BLASPHEMY! And I do like him over Jefferey

There's a whole thread about him over at the Raven boards: http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/45690-stephen-hill-is-a-must-draft/

Hey, even that report says Heyward-Bey is the most comparable player. ;)

FdMstng99

03-01-2012, 11:53

Fordy, Admart...

Link (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1665228/stephen-hill)

He won't be there at 29. I want him bad. I willing to sacrifice getting a top-rated O-linemen to grab this kid. I think he's going to be All-World. Randy Moss (Great of All-Time) All-World. He, Flacco and Doss will be Greatness! I'm still not sold on Torrey Smith, but I do like 'em.

Wouldn't mind picking him up in the first but doubt it happens. Could see us going Oline or Linebacker with the pick though. I like Torrey I just think he needs a good WR opposite of him to make Torrey that deep threat that he is. Don't think Torrey could be a #1 WR but a solid #2. Doss I was very impressed with and surprised he never got a shot in any of the regular season games, hopefully that will change next season.

The Black Wolf

03-06-2012, 02:30

New England franchised Wes Welker, think they might give him a long term deal next time?

RaY_210

03-06-2012, 03:14

New England franchised Wes Welker, think they might give him a long term deal next time?

They should. In another news, it's awesome that the Texans signed Foster long term. He deserved it big time! And as expected, Packers didn't tag Flynn. Wasn't worth the risk, with their cap.

ps3freak18

03-06-2012, 04:54

New England franchised Wes Welker, think they might give him a long term deal next time?

They better if they are smart. That guy is so undervalued and underrated. Amazing athlete and wide receiver.

$Greatness$

03-06-2012, 07:27

New England franchised Wes Welker, think they might give him a long term deal next time?

Probably not, but see below.

They better if they are smart. That guy is so undervalued and underrated. Amazing athlete and wide receiver.

He's more of a system WR. People didn't know who Wes Welker was when he was with Miami. He fits the NE mold of WR's because Brady does short to intermediate passes. He's 30 and a great weapon for the Pats, but it's the TE show there now. He'll get a decent contract MAYBE, but it won't be a head turner.

They should. In another news, it's awesome that the Texans signed Foster long term. He deserved it big time! And as expected, Packers didn't tag Flynn. Wasn't worth the risk, with their cap.

Foster re-signing with the Texans was a huge move. Now they need to focus their attention on getting Super Mario back. That boy is a beast and a staple to the franchise that you shouldn't just let slip through the cracks. If he is done in Houston, I wonder who will pony up the money to sign him?

And on Matt Flynn...

I need to see it for more than 4 games, brotha. He's going to Miami, though, Philbin wants his guy and he'll get him for a decent contract. 4 or 5 years 40 Million with 10-15 in guarantees.

ps3freak18

03-06-2012, 08:14

Probably not, but see below.

He's more of a system WR. People didn't know who Wes Welker was when he was with Miami. He fits the NE mold of WR's because Brady does short to intermediate passes. He's 30 and a great weapon for the Pats, but it's the TE show there now. He'll get a decent contract MAYBE, but it won't be a head turner.

Foster re-signing with the Texans was a huge move. Now they need to focus their attention on getting Super Mario back. That boy is a beast and a staple to the franchise that you shouldn't just let slip through the cracks. If he is done in Houston, I wonder who will pony up the money to sign him?

And on Matt Flynn...

I need to see it for more than 4 games, brotha. He's going to Miami, though, Philbin wants his guy and he'll get him for a decent contract. 4 or 5 years 40 Million with 10-15 in guarantees.

Honestly I'm still not sold on Flynn being a great QB. I watched him in college every game he played but he is more of a game manager. He isn't a flashy QB that is going to put up 300 yards every game. He is smart though. Flynn is definitely a perfect fit for Miami. I said coming out of college that whatever team drafted him was getting a steal because I knew he was going fairly late. Only time will tell though. As I said I don't expect him to be one of those top 10 QBs but right on the outside of that. I hope I'm wrong though. As an LSU fan I like to see any of their players excel.

bash

03-06-2012, 10:12

Bears are expected to make 'big run' at V-Jax - Vincent Jackson | SD http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3202/vincent-jackson

GET IT DONE!

FdMstng99

03-06-2012, 10:28

I could see Rice getting a deal similiar to what Foster got, maybe just a little bit more money. Ravens need to lock him up long term.

RaY_210

03-06-2012, 14:32

Probably not, but see below.

He's more of a system WR. People didn't know who Wes Welker was when he was with Miami. He fits the NE mold of WR's because Brady does short to intermediate passes. He's 30 and a great weapon for the Pats, but it's the TE show there now. He'll get a decent contract MAYBE, but it won't be a head turner.

Foster re-signing with the Texans was a huge move. Now they need to focus their attention on getting Super Mario back. That boy is a beast and a staple to the franchise that you shouldn't just let slip through the cracks. If he is done in Houston, I wonder who will pony up the money to sign him?

And on Matt Flynn...

I need to see it for more than 4 games, brotha. He's going to Miami, though, Philbin wants his guy and he'll get him for a decent contract. 4 or 5 years 40 Million with 10-15 in guarantees.

I'm not a big cap guy, so I'm not all into the details of it, but from what I've read, it's seeming more and more like he's not going to be back. He would have to take a huge paycut to stay, because I'm sure someone is going to be willing to pay huge money. And yeah, I think just about everyone sees him in Miami.

Honestly I'm still not sold on Flynn being a great QB. I watched him in college every game he played but he is more of a game manager. He isn't a flashy QB that is going to put up 300 yards every game. He is smart though. Flynn is definitely a perfect fit for Miami. I said coming out of college that whatever team drafted him was getting a steal because I knew he was going fairly late. Only time will tell though. As I said I don't expect him to be one of those top 10 QBs but right on the outside of that. I hope I'm wrong though. As an LSU fan I like to see any of their players excel.

I agree. He may have potential to be great, but I think he will be good. But that's better than half the QBs out there right now.

The Black Wolf

03-06-2012, 20:39

I prefer the top 3 QBs in the draft than Matt Flynn.

ps3freak18

03-06-2012, 23:46

It's official. Peyton is done in Indy. So let your speculations run! Where is he going? I'm saying Washington. Just seems they are the best fit in my eyes. Although I really don't want to see him there. I just never cared for the Skins. Don't hate them just nothing about them is attractive all the way down to their jerseys.

The Black Wolf

03-07-2012, 02:11

Sadly, he's eyeing Miami. I hate that. I do not want a QB past his prime being paid all that money. You want a QB so bad, get out there and draft RGIII or the kid from Texas A&M. Yes, I will take RGIII over Peyton Manning.

John25

03-07-2012, 03:16

Hopefully not the Chiefs thats for sure!!

FdMstng99

03-07-2012, 10:22

I'm going to say Manning is going to Arizona.

ps3freak18

03-07-2012, 17:19

I'm going to say Manning is going to Arizona.

Honestly I think I would like to see him go there the most. Could you imagine him and Fitzgerald?!!!

KillingSpree0

03-07-2012, 18:50

Mr Rice thinks Manning should go to 49ers lol. Im just glad the Bucs are getting their stuff together last year was to embarrassing for me

The Boy From School

03-08-2012, 00:02

admartian

03-08-2012, 00:26

I think he goes to the Seahawks or Chiefs.

$Greatness$

03-08-2012, 01:10

Manning will not go to an NFC team. He doesn't want to fraud his brother.

wesmore24

03-08-2012, 01:15

I think he should go to the cheifs, Tampa, or the Chargers. The last two have QBs but they're not exactly doing much.

KillingSpree0

03-08-2012, 02:36

Woo, woo, slow down. In 2010 he had a 25-6 season, one bad outing doesnt deserve him to be replaced when the whole team gave up

ps3freak18

03-08-2012, 03:49

Yeah I see no chance in hell the Chargers would try and get rid of Rivers unless he consistently starts to play bad. This year is really his first rough season but he still put up some solid numbers....

$Greatness$

03-08-2012, 06:21

Manning's potential landing spots

1) New York Jets
- I said this back when the season was still going on. And because Mark Sanchez is the ultimate fraud.

2) WILDCARD 1 Arizona Cardinals
- See notes about not playing in NFC because of brother. But if Money is correct, he just might want to throw to Fitz, Heap his buddy Reggie Wayne

3) Miami Dolphins
- Rumors keep swirling that the Browns are in heavy play for Flynn, so why not take a stab at the 3rd Greatest QB to ever play?
(Right behind Montana and Johnny U for those wondering :))

4) WILDCARD 2 Seattle Seahawks
- Only because they have the cash to pony up and grab him, but again, can't see him going to NFC while brother is there unless money is too good to pass up

4) Kansas City Chefs (Yeah I said it! The Chefs)
- They have absolutely no QB whatsoever. None! Zero! (Well, Ricky Stanzi, but he isn't ready yet)

But to even more important things! Andrew Luck better be the second coming or Jim Irsay will look like an idiot. If I were GM, Peyton would still be on my team until his legs were cut off. I would have cut him and signed him to a lesser deal.

FdMstng99

03-08-2012, 10:26

Honestly I think I would like to see him go there the most. Could you imagine him and Fitzgerald?!!!

Plus Arizona has enough under the salary cap that they could also add Reggie Wayne. Fitzgerald on one side and Wayne on the other.

Manning's potential landing spots

1) New York Jets
- I said this back when the season was still going on. And because Mark Sanchez is the ultimate fraud.

2) WILDCARD 1 Arizona Cardinals
- See notes about not playing in NFC because of brother. But if Money is correct, he just might want to throw to Fitz, Heap his buddy Reggie Wayne

3) Miami Dolphins
- Rumors keep swirling that the Browns are in heavy play for Flynn, so why not take a stab at the 3rd Greatest QB to ever play?
(Right behind Montana and Johnny U for those wondering :))

4) WILDCARD 2 Seattle Seahawks
- Only because they have the cash to pony up and grab him, but again, can't see him going to NFC while brother is there unless money is too good to pass up

4) Kansas City Chefs (Yeah I said it! The Chefs)
- They have absolutely no QB whatsoever. None! Zero! (Well, Ricky Stanzi, but he isn't ready yet)

But to even more important things! Andrew Luck better be the second coming or Jim Irsay will look like an idiot. If I were GM, Peyton would still be on my team until his legs were cut off. I would have cut him and signed him to a lesser deal.

Agreed, no way would I want to be known as the owner that gave up on Manning if Luck doesn't pan out.

wesmore24

03-08-2012, 13:06

Woo, woo, slow down. In 2010 he had a 25-6 season, one bad outing doesnt deserve him to be replaced when the whole team gave upsorry sorry, i havent been following football lately, basketball season man ;)

The Black Wolf

03-09-2012, 00:58

No, girl. Just no.

All right, tell me why an up and coming team should sign a 35+ QB and pay him all that money? They could take that money and get a franchise QB in the draft.

It makes no sense. Peyton is past his prime and his body is breaking down. His neck was the not only thing he was having trouble with. He was having knee problems as well.

Draft you a QB or sign Matt Flynn. We need a new face of the franchise. Someone who is young and will bring energy and ticket sales. Peyton will bring ticket sales, but it's a horrible long term solution.

I hope he does not come to Miami, but knowing Stephen Ross he is. The Dolphins are becoming another franchise in which the owner will not let the experts do their work.

wesmore24

03-09-2012, 01:07

All right, tell me why an up and coming team should sign a 35+ QB and pay him all that money? They could take that money and get a franchise QB in the draft.

It makes no sense. Peyton is past his prime and his body is breaking down. His neck was the not only thing he was having trouble with. He was having knee problems as well.

Draft you a QB or sign Matt Flynn. We need a new face of the franchise. Someone who is young and will bring energy and ticket sales. Peyton will bring ticket sales, but it's a horrible long term solution.

I hope he does not come to Miami, but knowing Stephen Ross he is. The Dolphins are becoming another franchise in which the owner will not let the experts do their work.My mom says the same thing, she also says that if he continues to play then when he gets older he will be in alot of pain because of all of his injuries.

It would be nice to see Peyton comeback, but it isn't worth it, for him that is.

ps3freak18

03-09-2012, 03:11

All right, tell me why an up and coming team should sign a 35+ QB and pay him all that money? They could take that money and get a franchise QB in the draft.

It makes no sense. Peyton is past his prime and his body is breaking down. His neck was the not only thing he was having trouble with. He was having knee problems as well.

Draft you a QB or sign Matt Flynn. We need a new face of the franchise. Someone who is young and will bring energy and ticket sales. Peyton will bring ticket sales, but it's a horrible long term solution.

I hope he does not come to Miami, but knowing Stephen Ross he is. The Dolphins are becoming another franchise in which the owner will not let the experts do their work.

I've said it before like I mentioned with the Colts. There is nothing saying you can't sign Manning and draft a QB early. Who better for your new franchise QB to learn from than Peyton. Plus with the new CBA rookies don't get that ridiculous money any more. So if you draft a QB or an OL you pay them the same.

$Greatness$

03-09-2012, 04:59

I agree with Freak. Sign Manning and draft RGIII (Or Tannehill) and let him sit behind him as Rodgers did with Brett. It could definitely work out in your favorite for the long term.

KillingSpree0

03-09-2012, 05:27

sorry sorry, i havent been following football lately, basketball season man ;)
Whos your fav bball team? My Bulls just lost :(

wesmore24

03-09-2012, 12:48

Whos your fav bball team? My Bulls just lost :(I live in Chicago, so I saw that game last night, man, the Bulls almost had them then they started messing up and taking unreasonable shots within the last 4 minutes of the game. My favorite team is the Lakers btw. lets take the basketball discussion to this thread:http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread.php/73483-NBA-Thread-of-Super-LINtendo

TekkenLord

03-09-2012, 14:51

who ever the colts get to replace manning better produce. or the colts are going to have some tuff 1-15 seasons

FdMstng99

03-09-2012, 15:53

I agree with Freak. Sign Manning and draft RGIII (Or Tannehill) and let him sit behind him as Rodgers did with Brett. It could definitely work out in your favorite for the long term.

I don't think a team is going to draft RGIII and expect him to sit and wait. If they draft him he will be starting games in the NFL in his rookie year.

Yuuichi

03-09-2012, 15:58

who ever the colts get to replace manning better produce. or the colts are going to have some tuff 1-15 seasons

It is going to be a tuff few season for Colts. They will most likely draft Luck and rebuild the team.

ps3freak18

03-09-2012, 15:59

I don't think a team is going to draft RGIII and expect him to sit and wait. If they draft him he will be starting games in the NFL in his rookie year.

Yeah you right there. But you could get away with it for Tannehill. He's not a first year starter like Newton, Bradford, Luck, or Griffin.

FdMstng99

03-09-2012, 16:39

Yeah you right there. But you could get away with it for Tannehill. He's not a first year starter like Newton, Bradford, Luck, or Griffin.

I don't think that Tannehill is even a first round QB but he will be taken in the first round since QB's are a hot commodity right now.

The Black Wolf

03-09-2012, 17:12

I've said it before like I mentioned with the Colts. There is nothing saying you can't sign Manning and draft a QB early. Who better for your new franchise QB to learn from than Peyton. Plus with the new CBA rookies don't get that ridiculous money any more. So if you draft a QB or an OL you pay them the same.

Yeah but young QBs no longer need to sit behind and learn from a veteran. It's better to draft a QB and throw him in there the first year. By the time the second year comes around, they'll be able to do it and do it well. Heck, QBs like Cam Newton do well the first year.

I don't see the sense in having two starter quality QBs on your roster. That's why the Eagles traded Kolb and Green Bay is letting go of Flynn.

You have one starter quality QB, the other two should be backups.

I don't like it, but Manning is most likely coming to Miami.

What I am really concerned about is Jake Long's contract situation and our Right Tackle situation.

Mock draft people have us taking a RT in the first round, which is just not smart. Why would you use a top 10 pick on a RT? :confused:

ps3freak18

03-10-2012, 04:41

Yeah but young QBs no longer need to sit behind and learn from a veteran. It's better to draft a QB and throw him in there the first year. By the time the second year comes around, they'll be able to do it and do it well. Heck, QBs like Cam Newton do well the first year.

I don't see the sense in having two starter quality QBs on your roster. That's why the Eagles traded Kolb and Green Bay is letting go of Flynn.

You have one starter quality QB, the other two should be backups.

I don't like it, but Manning is most likely coming to Miami.

What I am really concerned about is Jake Long's contract situation and our Right Tackle situation.

Mock draft people have us taking a RT in the first round, which is just not smart. Why would you use a top 10 pick on a RT? :confused:

@FdMstng99-Yeah Tannehill is not a great QB. I've watched him in college a good bit and wasn't impressed at all. TBH I was shocked he was anything better than a 3rd round player.

You honestly think it is better to throw a rookie QB who is nowhere near accustomed to the speed of the NFL game than let them learn from someone who has seen it all. Honestly don't follow your logic here no offence. I just see no way that letting a QB learn by watching from the sidelines is better than throwing them to the wolves. Newton had good stats for the most part but he was pick happy. Forcing throws is the biggest problem rookie QBs had and honestly Dalton was much better than him in that aspect.

I understand what you are saying about the guys you mentioned above but those QBs were in the league for a little while and had time to learn. Not 2nd year players.

The Black Wolf

03-10-2012, 13:11

You honestly think it is better to throw a rookie QB who is nowhere near accustomed to the speed of the NFL game than let them learn from someone who has seen it all. Honestly don't follow your logic here no offence. I just see no way that letting a QB learn by watching from the sidelines is better than throwing them to the wolves. Newton had good stats for the most part but he was pick happy. Forcing throws is the biggest problem rookie QBs had and honestly Dalton was much better than him in that aspect.

I understand what you are saying about the guys you mentioned above but those QBs were in the league for a little while and had time to learn. Not 2nd year players.

Two words: track record.

It's been shown that rookies "thrown to the wolves" in their first year pan out at a better rate than those who sit behind a veteran. Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan. Matthew Stafford. Peyton Manning. The latest, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton. Yes rookie QBs throw more INTs, but it's part of learning. Let your QB play his first year and if he's the real deal, than the sky is the limit after the first year. He'll only get better.

I don't get the second paragraph. I mean, I was talking about having two starting QBs on the roster, not 2nd year QBs. It's true, it doesn't make financial and team sense to have two starter QBs on the roster.

RaY_210

03-10-2012, 17:40

Two words: track record.

It's been shown that rookies "thrown to the wolves" in their first year pan out at a better rate than those who sit behind a veteran. Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan. Matthew Stafford. Peyton Manning. The latest, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton. Yes rookie QBs throw more INTs, but it's part of learning. Let your QB play his first year and if he's the real deal, than the sky is the limit after the first year. He'll only get better.

I don't get the second paragraph. I mean, I was talking about having two starting QBs on the roster, not 2nd year QBs. It's true, it doesn't make financial and team sense to have two starter QBs on the roster.

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree. Of the examples you gave, Flacco is mediocre at best, Ryan is maybe a bit better than him. Looking on the other side, what about David Carr, Ja Marcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Blaine Gabbert. Sitting down a few years worked out for Rodgers. Yates had a pretty good showing last year, but I think another year or two on the bench will help him. And I'm not sure Schaub's history, but I know he was a back up, but not sure for how long.

The Black Wolf

03-10-2012, 20:11

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't agree. Of the examples you gave, Flacco is mediocre at best, Ryan is maybe a bit better than him. Looking on the other side, what about David Carr, Ja Marcus Russell, Mark Sanchez, Blaine Gabbert. Sitting down a few years worked out for Rodgers. Yates had a pretty good showing last year, but I think another year or two on the bench will help him. And I'm not sure Schaub's history, but I know he was a back up, but not sure for how long.

It's fine that you don't agree. Flacco may be mediocre, but it's certain that he's not a bust. Mark Sanchez? He's average, but he's not a bust either.

So that's three busts versus 6 that paned out. Yates played well in his rookie year and will continue to get better. Having him sit on the bench can slow his progress.

QBs drafted that play their first year just have a greater chance of being successful. It makes sense to me. You can't experience by just sitting on the bench and studying film. You have to get on the field, you have to throw in tight windows, you have to have experience.

Another thing, it makes no sense for a team to "baby" a QB they drafted in the 2nd or 1st round. QBs with a 2nd or 1st round grade can play, that's why they were given a first round grade, because they are so and so percent ready to play day one.

Teams need to stop babying QBs, with QB camps and systems and coachs in college, that's plenty for a young QB to learn before the NFL. The theory that QBs need to sit behind a veteran for a couple of years is obsolete. Ask the Miami Dolphins about Chad Henne. Also ask Cam Cameron about John Beck back when he was head coach of the Dolphins.

bash

03-10-2012, 21:01

Redskins majorly overpaid...

3 first rounders and 2nd rounder to move up 4 spots. They must think RGIII is the second coming of Steve Young or something.

RaY_210

03-10-2012, 21:11

Redskins majorly overpaid...

3 first rounders and 2nd rounder to move up 4 spots. They must think RGIII is the second coming of Steve Young or something.

They always seem to overpay someone every year. This year, it's another team.
And lol at that Sanchez extension.

ps3freak18

03-11-2012, 00:26

Redskins majorly overpaid...

3 first rounders and 2nd rounder to move up 4 spots. They must think RGIII is the second coming of Steve Young or something.

Yep down right stupid. Watch out for the Rams come 4-5 years from now!

And yes the Jets are morons for signing Sanchez to an extension.

admartian

03-11-2012, 20:04

The trade made sense for Redskins, but that extension for Sanchez was desperate and compeletely un-necessary.

This will push QB prices even higher when it didn't need to be.

DayWalker

03-11-2012, 20:50

well... time will tell on whether or not the skins gave up to much... big vote of confidence in RG3...

the sanchez extension is in my mind way more baffling.

Where is KJ? Your boy might be wearing orange and blue next year buddy! :cool:
Reggie Wayne follows manning to Denver... Broncos trade Tebow + picks/players to jacksonville... move up in the draft this year or next year... meanwhile they use the draft and FA to address the defense...

And all is well in the world

$Greatness$

03-11-2012, 20:52

admartian

03-11-2012, 20:54

The Black Wolf

03-12-2012, 01:27

Anyone think the NFL may be overreacting to the Saints' bounty program?

ps3freak18

03-12-2012, 04:05

Anyone think the NFL may be overreacting to the Saints' bounty program?

All it boils down to is the Saints just got caught plain and simple. This stuff has been going on for years now. Someone just let it slip and the Saints are paying the price for it. Just my thoughts. They are going to lose so big draft picks for it. You know whenever the players most common reactions were "meh" this stuff is way more common than the media is leading it on to be.

FdMstng99

03-12-2012, 12:07

@FdMstng99-Yeah Tannehill is not a great QB. I've watched him in college a good bit and wasn't impressed at all. TBH I was shocked he was anything better than a 3rd round player.

I actually like Weeden more then Tannehill.

The Black Wolf

03-12-2012, 12:16

All it boils down to is the Saints just got caught plain and simple. This stuff has been going on for years now. Someone just let it slip and the Saints are paying the price for it. Just my thoughts. They are going to lose so big draft picks for it. You know whenever the players most common reactions were "meh" this stuff is way more common than the media is leading it on to be.

And on top of losing draft picks, they'll be fined and people will get suspended. When Goddell comes down on someone, he comes down hard.

ps3freak18

03-12-2012, 15:23

And on top of losing draft picks, they'll be fined and people will get suspended. When Goddell comes down on someone, he comes down hard.

Yeah they will be hit very hard for sure and rightfully so.

RaY_210

03-12-2012, 16:07

Stopped reading

Lol sorry man, but I'm not a believer. I just don't see it.

$Greatness$

03-12-2012, 19:44

Lol sorry man, but I'm not a believer. I just don't see it.

It's not your fault. ESPN told you not to believe and I understand that. There are a lot of people in the same boat. 85% of them are Raven fans, too. I laugh at you all. I laugh. AT. YOU. ALL! ;)

Jets showed why their front office is ran by Southwest managers. No way in hell you give Fraudchize an extension of anything. The Jets don't know if they're coming or going and its starting to bite them in the ass. All started last year when they were going to sell their souls to get Nhamdi.

admartian

03-12-2012, 20:04

It's not your fault. ESPN told you not to believe and I understand that. There are a lot of people in the same boat. 85% of them are Raven fans, too. I laugh at you all. I laugh. AT. YOU. ALL! ;)

Jets showed why their front office is ran by Southwest managers. No way in hell you give Fraudchize an extension of anything. The Jets don't know if they're coming or going and its starting to bite them in the ass. All started last year when they were going to sell their souls to get Nhamdi.
True. If only Flacco went on as many post-game interviews as someone like Matt Ryan, or shot magazine covers like Mark Sanchez; then maybe he'd be more popular.

Because last I checked, he's had more playoff wins; and not just a passenger at that; with good performances in KC in 2010, and HOU and NE this past season.

ps3freak18

03-12-2012, 20:13

I had pretty high hopes for Flaco coming out of college and he is definitely very underrated. Hasn't disappointed me one bit.

$Greatness$

03-12-2012, 23:39

Yeah, no bullshit. Flacco gonna put up hype numbers next year. Need him to win a superbowl and tell Espn to suck a ***! Oh look! I'm using that tappytalk stuff! I'm such a casual.
:lol:

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The Black Wolf

03-13-2012, 01:40

The Ravens left go of Lee Evans. They need another threat, they could really use Vincent Jackson.

ps3freak18

03-13-2012, 05:08

The Ravens left go of Lee Evans. They need another threat, they could really use Vincent Jackson.

Please take Meachem!!!!

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 05:14

Not too sure Jackson is worth what he's going to cost. He's good, but 12-13 million a year is a lot for a wr.

In separate news, word is the bears are favorites for Mario Williams right now. While id love to have Williams/peppers on the edge, wed have a ton of cap money tied up in 5 defensive players

$Greatness$

03-13-2012, 07:56

I do like Robert Meachem, but I'm not overly excited about him. Don't know why, just ain't. I wanted Moss, but he inked a deal with the fuckin' 49ers. Once again I lose out on the greatest of...

FdMstng99

03-13-2012, 12:01

Wonder how that is going to affect with the Redskins and trying to sign Vincent Jackason. Was reading yesterday that they are going to go after him hard to give RGIII a weapon. 
 
I could see Randy...

RaY_210

03-13-2012, 16:03

admartian

03-13-2012, 20:05

Still not sold on Tannehill as a 1st round prospect. I say a mock draft project him at the number 4 overall (going to the brownies)!

Even low first or early second is a reach.

Everyone's gonna miss out on Weeden simply because of his age. I say he can play a good 6-8 years.

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 20:29

I'm surprised the Bears are in on Mario Williams, figured they need help at WR and would be interested in Jackson or Colston.

Not sure about Colston, but before the Williams rumors started flying, a lot of speculation by league insiders said the Bears and Redskins were the top teams in the running for VJ. I'm pretty sure the Bears have around $30mil in cap space (minus whatever Forte gets, $7.7mil as it stands now), so they can make some moves.

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 21:09

Well I guess the Bears are out on V Jax. We just traded two 3rds for Brandon Marshall. Although the guy has some issues, I'll think he'll do well on the Bears. Especially being back together with Cutler.

I gotta guess that Jay is pretty pumped right now.

admartian

03-13-2012, 21:47

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 21:53

Word is the Bucs are close to signing VJax. Also the Bears are close to signing a deal with Jason Campbell for backup QB.

As far as who the Dolphins are going to feed the ball...? Couldn't tell you. I'd imagine Marshall will be quite a bit happier on the Bears. First off, we'll have a good team next year. He's friends with Cutler, and there's a lot of veterans on the team (mostly on D, but still).

I have to say, two third round picks is a damn decent deal for a guy of Marshall's skill. Now the Bears can focus on BPA in the draft instead of needing huge help at WR. Obviously, we still need a couple WR, but we don't have to reach in the 1st to do it.

Thanks for the steal Miami. Also just read that they have to pay about half of his salary cap number.

Edit: I just read that what Miami may be trying to do is clear cap room and bring in Manning and a WR of his liking (like Reggie Wayne).

The Black Wolf

03-13-2012, 22:17

*Facepalm* They just traded their best player away for 3rd round picks. I don't know what to say.

R_Mac_1

03-13-2012, 22:21

And the word is VJax to the Bucs is done. Details should come soon.

Also, Pierre Garcon signing with the Redskins, and Josh Morgan is also close to a deal with them. Looks like they're trying to get some weapons in place for Griffin.

Edit: looks like Garcon deal is 5 years 42.5 million with 21 million guaranteed.

Also, latest word is that the Bears are now out on Williams. Seems that Buffalo is probably throwing a ton of money at him. We do already have a (almost) $100 million DE on the roster. Two would be a lot of money tied up in DEs.

Maybe this opens up some space to get Nicks, and possibly another OL. It's our biggest weakness at this point.

ps3freak18

03-14-2012, 04:33

The Saints locked up Colston today! Glad to see it. With this deal looks like we are going to move on from Meachem. I know I've stressed how much I want Meachem gone. Nothing against him, but he is not the best wideout and they keep trying to implement him. Definitely not the 1st rounder that they drafted him at. Although this deal has me worried that we might lose Nicks but word is he got another offer from the Saints that he is mulling over. From the sounds of the report he sounded optimistic about the offer.

The Boy From School

03-14-2012, 05:38

*Facepalm* They just traded their best player away for 3rd round picks. I don't know what to say.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Marshall was recently "involved in another incident that could lead to an NFL review.
The details have yet to surface, but it's a safe assumption the "incident" played a part in Marshall's unexpected Tuesday trade out of Miami."

Something's up. :???:

KillingSpree0

03-14-2012, 06:01

Bucs got V-Jax and word is they also going to get Nicks. Go Bucs!

bash

03-14-2012, 08:33

OMFG YES! Bears trade for Marshall! FINALLY A LEGIT WR! Can't wait for the season to start! Benett, Knox and Marshall should be amazing combo. FYI: The Bears gave up 2 3rd rounders. i think it's well worth it.

R_Mac_1

03-14-2012, 09:04

Something's up. :???:
It'll probably be a while before we know what actually happened. I've read that he was at a club with his wife and she was hit with a bottle from a fight they weren't involved in. Then there's a story that he punched some chick in the face...whether or not he was trying to hit someone else unknown.

The point is, it could be anything from a totally innocent bystander type experience to something serious. I'm hoping it's nothing serious...as that would seriously suck considering how happy I've been about the trade today.

OMFG YES! Bears trade for Marshall! FINALLY A LEGIT WR! Can't wait for the season to start! Benett, Knox and Marshall should be amazing combo. FYI: The Bears gave up 2 3rd rounders. i think it's well worth it.

Meh. I'm over the whole Knox thing, TBH. I'd rather they draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd. Knox may not even be ready to play for the start of the season, if at all. I'm not a big fan of his, anyway. I'm thinking Marshall, drafted young guy, Bennett as our 1,2,3.

bash

03-14-2012, 10:07

It'll probably be a while before we know what actually happened. I've read that he was at a club with his wife and she was hit with a bottle from a fight they weren't involved in. Then there's a story that he punched some chick in the face...whether or not he was trying to hit someone else unknown.

The point is, it could be anything from a totally innocent bystander type experience to something serious. I'm hoping it's nothing serious...as that would seriously suck considering how happy I've been about the trade today.

Meh. I'm over the whole Knox thing, TBH. I'd rather they draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd. Knox may not even be ready to play for the start of the season, if at all. I'm not a big fan of his, anyway. I'm thinking Marshall, drafted young guy, Bennett as our 1,2,3.

We still have Roy Williams too. Will be interesting what happens with him.

FdMstng99

03-14-2012, 12:02

We still have Roy Williams too. Will be interesting what happens with him.

Williams is probably gone now. I like the move by the Bears, Cutler should be happy.

I think the Skins over paid for Garcon, he's a number 2 WR at best. Plus he had Manning throwing him the ball, Manning would make me look good as a WR.

Good move for the Buc getting Jackson but his numbers are going to suffer without Rivers throwing to him.

Just read that the Saints are looking at signing Grubbs, was hoping the Ravens were going to be able to keep him.

bash

03-14-2012, 12:39

Williams is probably gone now. I like the move by the Bears, Cutler should be happy.

I think the Skins over paid for Garcon, he's a number 2 WR at best. Plus he had Manning throwing him the ball, Manning would make me look good as a WR.

Good move for the Buc getting Jackson but his numbers are going to suffer without Rivers throwing to him.

Just read that the Saints are looking at signing Grubbs, was hoping the Ravens were going to be able to keep him.

It doesn't really matter it was Manning throwing to him though, dood his sick hands.

The Black Wolf

03-14-2012, 13:55

This recent incident is why Marshall was traded:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Brandon-Marshall-Chicago-Bears-reportedly-punched-woman-at-New-York-nightclub-031312

Just as the article says, he's had so many run ins with the law. I now understand why Miami traded him.

Getting two 3rd round picks for a player will may end up getting suspended? The trade is dead even, both teams did well.

R_Mac_1

03-14-2012, 14:22

Not only did the skins pay Garcon 8.5 million a year, but Royal is getting 6 mill a year. Seems like Snyder is reaching a bit.

I guess that's pretty common, though. People getting overpaid in FA.

KillingSpree0

03-14-2012, 19:03

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/MartyRulesYou/416981_10150737460384595_95501124594_11169383_8186 06483_n.jpg

The Black Wolf

03-14-2012, 20:16

Calvin Johnson will be a Lion til 2019, it's breaking news on NFL Network. He signed a massive deal with 60 million up front. I'm happy for the Lions. :D

admartian

03-14-2012, 20:21

Aaaaand the Ravens continue to be stingy.

I don't even care about the big names, I just want us to secure our own guys. :roll:

The Black Wolf

03-14-2012, 20:27

Peyton is not coming to Miami. Sources are saying it's down to two teams, the Titans and the Broncos. If he goes to the Broncos, what do you guys think will happen to Tim Tebow?

admartian

03-14-2012, 20:36

Peyton is not coming to Miami. Sources are saying it's down to two teams, the Titans and the Broncos. If he goes to the Broncos, what do you guys think will happen to Tim Tebow?

I can see him getting traded and the Broncs drafting someone like Tannehill or Keenum.

I'd prefer Peyton to go the Titans though. Would love to see him paly against the Colts twice. :D

KillingSpree0

03-14-2012, 20:37

Peyton is not coming to Miami. Sources are saying it's down to two teams, the Titans and the Broncos. If he goes to the Broncos, what do you guys think will happen to Tim Tebow?

If he goes to Broncos, I dont know how long he'd be able to play when their line is so bad

The Black Wolf

03-14-2012, 20:44

If he goes to Broncos, I dont know how long he'd be able to play when their line is so bad

Why do you say their offensive line is bad?

FdMstng99

03-15-2012, 11:54

Royal hasn't signed yet, just a rumor. Would love for the Ravens to sign him. 
 
 
 
 
Amen brother!! Jarrett Johnson signed with the Chargers, surprised he didn't end up with the Colts. Hate to...

$Greatness$

03-15-2012, 14:28

Good to see the CAP money being spent on vets and not giving Andrew Luck/RG3 80 million guaranteed. :lol: I hope the Ravens can sign Royal, too. Maybe Grubbs does comeback. I wonder what his deal in NO is at? More important what my Ravens offered him. Still think he has a legit chance to return. Evan Mathis is on my list if Grubbs leave though. No need to move Oher(again) 3 years in a row.

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The Boy From School

03-15-2012, 15:26

F**k you Bud Adams! :-x

$Greatness$

03-15-2012, 16:36

And... there goes that about Grubbs. :(

Now we need to go get Mathis!

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KillingSpree0

03-15-2012, 18:38

Why do you say their offensive line is bad?

Every Bronco game I saw(was like 3 games) the other teams Dline always got thro the Broncos oline super quick and Tebow had little time to throw. All he could do was run and hope for the best

The Black Wolf

03-15-2012, 19:07

Every Bronco game I saw(was like 3 games) the other teams Dline always got thro the Broncos oline super quick and Tebow had little time to throw. All he could do was run and hope for the best

Okay, that makes sense. I was asking because they're so good at run blocking and it was the first time I have heard someone say that knowing Ryan Clady is at LT.

The Boy From School

03-15-2012, 19:24

:rolleyes: @ Adam Shefter:

One more strike against Miami's pursuit of Peyton Manning: Mario Williams now plays in Buffalo, where his job is to make QBs miserable.

lol, does he really think Peyton is scared? Does he not know they played in the same division before...f**king douche.

RaY_210

03-15-2012, 19:31

Mario to the Bills. Congrats and good luck over there. Just glad he didn't stay in the South or go to the NFC North

admartian

03-15-2012, 19:48

$Greatness$

03-15-2012, 20:41

Dear Ben Grubbs;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExVsds51dU

Hope your career turns out a little better than Jason Brown (*fingers crossed*) when he went to the Rams. Where is he now btw?

And where are the other Free Agent Ravens that thought they could do better elsewhere, from years passed?

Still in the league?

I'm sure you'll be fine though....

:roll:

From a bitter Ravens fan...

Lol!!! Don't be upset, A-mart, we'll get even better. Its not like he was an elite guard, he was above average. We'll find someone deep in draft unless we sign mathis(praying) so we'll go...

Oher-mathis-brown/birk/konz-yanda-winston

CHAMPIONSHIP!

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FdMstng99

03-16-2012, 11:57

I wonder if the Ravens even know free agency started. Hello...Ravens?!

John25

03-16-2012, 12:07

lol at least your teams can afford to Look/buy FA players

Unlike my Raiders who can only hope to get some FA players on Layaway :p

John25

03-16-2012, 15:28

Well it looks like Peyton is gonna be a Bronco after all grr!!!

The Boy From School

03-16-2012, 18:03

Peyton said no to us.

Time to change my avy.

:(

KillingSpree0

03-16-2012, 18:42

I wonder if the Ravens even know free agency started. Hello...Ravens?!
Theyre pulling a Bucs move haha

FdMstng99

03-19-2012, 12:01

The only thing the Ravens got so far is an aging C in Birk that they gave a 3 year contract too. Vince Wilfork should be happy. Hope we draft a Konz in the first round this year.

No one wants to go to the Dolphins, Flynn picks Seattle. Alex Smith is talking to the Dolphins and that's because the Niners are trying to get Manning.

The Black Wolf

03-19-2012, 12:33

What is it about Miami that is putting teams off? I bet it's either the owner or the GM.

FdMstng99

03-19-2012, 12:39

What is it about Miami that is putting teams off? I bet it's either the owner or the GM.

It's probably both of them. I never hear anything good about Stephen Ross or Jeff Ireland.

TekkenLord

03-19-2012, 16:40

happy to see my 49ers pick up 2 good receivers. It would be a blessing if we get manning. Is it true that Mike Wallace leaving the steelers?

$Greatness$

03-19-2012, 17:46

happy to see my 49ers pick up 2 good receivers. It would be a blessing if we get manning. Is it true that Mike Wallace leaving the steelers?

Nope. Peyton to the Broncos has been confirmed all over the world. I think he's dumb, but the NFL fixed-ness has played a role. He turned down Randy Moss. Let me repeat myself. RANDY MOSS, Michael Crabtree, Mario Manningham, Frank Gore and an elite defense for a solid defense and Damariyus Thomas. lol, yeah... OK! However, if they do wind up stealing Mike Wallace from the Steelers then that'll be something special.

And Ben Grubbs can kick rocks. Had an interview on the local radio station here and made it clear he didn't want to be Raven anymore. Shocked and surprised to hear how he felt especially since he was a fan favorite here. All good, though, he can get a call from Michael Oher when we win the Superbowl.

TekkenLord

03-19-2012, 18:40

Peyton went to broncos what, wonder who going to pick up Tebow. He must of went to denver for the money, just like Mario williams going to bills.

KillingSpree0

03-19-2012, 20:05

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/MartyRulesYou/375123_250672531693388_100002519302250_536616_1265 566436_n.jpg

FdMstng99

03-20-2012, 11:57

Nope. Peyton to the Broncos has been confirmed all over the world. I think he's dumb, but the NFL fixed-ness has played a role. He turned down Randy Moss. Let me repeat myself. RANDY MOSS, Michael Crabtree, Mario Manningham, Frank Gore and an elite defense for a solid defense and Damariyus Thomas. lol, yeah... OK! However, if they do wind up stealing Mike Wallace from the Steelers then that'll be something special.

And Ben Grubbs can kick rocks. Had an interview on the local radio station here and made it clear he didn't want to be Raven anymore. Shocked and surprised to hear how he felt especially since he was a fan favorite here. All good, though, he can get a call from Michael Oher when we win the Superbowl.

How Manning can turn down a team like the Niners is crazy. He probably just went to the Broncos because of Elway. Guess manning didn't want to win another Super Bowl before he retires. Now the Niners are kissing Alex Smith's ass and hoping he comes back.

Would love to see Wallace leave the Steelers and go anywhere else.

Wonder where Tebow goes now? Jacksonville maybe? The Dolphins signed Gerrard.

TekkenLord

03-20-2012, 15:51

TEBOW going to NE, wtf lol. Guess brady going have to teach him how to be a qb. Is Chad johnson still play for NE, i haven't heard anything on him. Wonder where is he going to fit in now that Brandon Lloyd join NE.

FdMstng99

03-21-2012, 11:54

RaY_210

03-21-2012, 19:12

Tebow to the Jets LOL

R_Mac_1

03-21-2012, 19:15

Tebow to the Jets LOL

Hahaha, now they have two bad QBs.

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admartian

03-21-2012, 19:46

Wow - I dunno which is bigger news, Tebow to Jets or the NFL reaming the Saints (http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d827c11c1&module=HP11_hot_topics).

I still think Tebow is equal to Sanchez. Where Sanchez is a better traditional passer, while Tebow a better runner and leader.

The Boy From School

03-21-2012, 19:50

Come on down to Miami, Brees.

No...seriously, request a trade asap.

:lol: @ the same old jets. I'm loving it. :D

admartian

03-21-2012, 20:29

Come on down to Miami, Brees.

No...seriously, request a trade asap.

:lol: @ the same old jets. I'm loving it. :D

I honestly don't see why the Jets did this. I mean if they want a true passer, they should try for someone else, but this just looks like a slap in the face.

JAX or MIA makes more sense. Even the Bills.

The Black Wolf

03-21-2012, 21:40

ps3freak18

03-21-2012, 21:48

admartian

03-21-2012, 21:52

Did you guys see what happened to the Saints? Sean Payton suspended for the entire 2012 year and Williams suspended indefinitely. I knew Goodell was gonna come down hard, but even I didn't expect this. That's harsh.

Very harsh. I was expecting half a season at most. Well there goes the chance of playing in our own Superbowl!Harsh, but fair I reckon.

I'm in the group that is totally against for this over reaction to making the leagure mor offense/passing/QB friendly.

I am all for defense (my fave team is the Ravens, and we are in the AFC North/Defense division!) for pete's sake!

But at the same time, things like this just go too far.

The Black Wolf

03-21-2012, 21:58

admartian

03-21-2012, 22:11

I was watching Scott Van Pelt on ESPN today and one of the guys made a point. Both of the hosts made a point really. One of them said that Gooddell should've came down this hard on the Patriots during Spygate and I totally agree with that. Then the other guy said the reason why he is coming down so hard on the Saints is because the NFL is promoting players' safety.I do agree with that, spygate should be on par with this.

No doubt BB/The PAts, and Steelers are amongst the NFL's babies (including Cowboys, Packers, Raiders and 49ers). Had this been (spygate or bounty) by the Ravens, Jax, or Seattle; then I wouldn't doubt even harsher punishments.

You can see it in officiating and whatnot.

ps3freak18

03-21-2012, 22:29

I do agree with that, spygate should be on par with this.

No doubt BB/The PAts, and Steelers are amongst the NFL's babies (including Cowboys, Packers, Raiders and 49ers). Had this been (spygate or bounty) by the Ravens, Jax, or Seattle; then I wouldn't doubt even harsher punishments.

You can see it in officiating and whatnot.

Yeah Goodell would have received death threats from Pats fans if he would have suspended Belichick for a year. I hate how big market teams get special treatment in situations like this. I understand this is a safety issue but cheating is cheating as well. But I don't disagree with the suspension at all they caught and have to pay the price. I will say though I think that the Steelers just haven't been caught for this as well. I mean look at Harrison. You can't tell me that guy isn't trying to make some extra money on the side. Just my thoughts. Luckily though they didn't have to give up their 1st round pick next year. I just don't think that Payton should have to sit for a whole year but he is the scapegoat for this kind of thing so it lets coaches know they aren't immortal from the NFL's rulings.

bash

03-21-2012, 23:31

How Manning can turn down a team like the Niners is crazy. He probably just went to the Broncos because of Elway. Guess manning didn't want to win another Super Bowl before he retires. Now the Niners are kissing Alex Smith's ass and hoping he comes back.

Would love to see Wallace leave the Steelers and go anywhere else.

Wonder where Tebow goes now? Jacksonville maybe? The Dolphins signed Gerrard.

http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/scrooge-mcduck.jpg

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Dolphins fans calm down and hand off. Brees isn't going anywhere.

KillingSpree0

03-22-2012, 00:24

Very harsh. I was expecting half a season at most. Well there goes the chance of playing in our own Superbowl!

Bucs time to shine :cool:

wesmore24

03-22-2012, 01:16

It's not too harsh. I mean the saints are a well respected team with well respected players (and coaches) so they expect more out of them. Then for the saints to do what they did just turns the tables, they got what they deserve.

DayWalker

03-22-2012, 02:44

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533249_10150606089291277_523096276_9368500_2672633 84_n.jpg

still no word from KJ...

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398313_138189039640086_109846165807707_145491_9921 38565_n.jpg

wesmore24

03-22-2012, 02:47

admartian

03-22-2012, 02:52

FdMstng99

03-22-2012, 11:59

I honestly don't see why the Jets did this. I mean if they want a true passer, they should try for someone else, but this just looks like a slap in the face.

JAX or MIA makes more sense. Even the Bills.

JAX wants to develop Gabbert and they also just signed Henne, there would be no where to put Tebow.

I can see it now, as soon as Sanchez has a bad game the Jets fans will be calling for Tebow. As if Sanchez wasn't feeling the pressure to win already.

The Saints are a mess and they still need to sign Brees, wonder what happens with him now?

R_Mac_1

03-22-2012, 23:48

Bears signed Michael Bush to a 4 year 14 million dollar contract with 7 guaranteed. Great pickup for the Bears.

I wish Forte would accept that the Bears want to pay him, not overpay him. He complains he's not getting market value, but the market value is being inflated by bad deals that are showing themselves. Deangelo and CJ got overpaid, and AP gets a huge deal and blows his leg out. I honestly think Forte deserves more than guys like Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore, but less than AP, Arian Foster or Lesean McCoy. Something like 7 to 7.5 million a year for 4 to 5 years with about half guaranteed seems pretty fitting to me.

Look at the teams winning superbowls...it isn't teams with RBs with huge contracts.

admartian

03-23-2012, 00:01

JAX wants to develop Gabbert and they also just signed Henne, there would be no where to put Tebow.

I can see it now, as soon as Sanchez has a bad game the Jets fans will be calling for Tebow. As if Sanchez wasn't feeling the pressure to win already.

The Saints are a mess and they still need to sign Brees, wonder what happens with him now?

Ugh, Gabbert. *puke* Seen enough of him last year. He's Boller 2.0 with longer hair and a whiny voice.

He's got no leadership abilities and his decision making is horrible at best. I would've rather the popular and gutsy Tebow. Worse than Sanchez imo.

No sympathy for the Saints. First the bounty, and now low-ball Brees? Seriously? If you're gonna overpay in one position, it's gonna be the QB.

Bears signed Michael Bush to a 4 year 14 million dollar contract with 7 guaranteed. Great pickup for the Bears.

I wish Forte would accept that the Bears want to pay him, not overpay him. He complains he's not getting market value, but the market value is being inflated by bad deals that are showing themselves. Deangelo and CJ got overpaid, and AP gets a huge deal and blows his leg out. I honestly think Forte deserves more than guys like Jamaal Charles and Frank Gore, but less than AP, Arian Foster or Lesean McCoy. Something like 7 to 7.5 million a year for 4 to 5 years with about half guaranteed seems pretty fitting to me.

Look at the teams winning superbowls...it isn't teams with RBs with huge contracts.

I think RBs need a reality check. They need to move with the times and accept their position's worth these days.

Don't like it? Then play WR/QB or a pass rushing position.

RaY_210

03-23-2012, 00:08

R_Mac_1

03-23-2012, 00:15

I think RBs need a reality check. They need to move with the times and accept their position's worth these days.

Don't like it? Then play WR/QB or a pass rushing position.
Exactly. I mean, having a good RB is great, but the production difference between the top paid RBs and lower-tier guys does not match the monetary gap. As a fan of the team, I don't want the whole team to suffer because too much money is tied up in a position that is as easily replaceable and unpredictable as the RB is.

Now Forte is whining on Twitter about it. I'm losing respect for the guy. I'll post something I posted on a Bears forum...

I've always defended Forte and respected his situation, but he and his agent are pissing me off. Of course him wanting a long term deal is fair, but to act like all other team business is supposed to stop for you is asinine and selfish. The fact is, the Bears have made him offers and tried to work a deal out. The fact that they're not willing to overpay him like other teams is them looking out for the team.

Until the Bears bring in a RB and pay him what Forte is asking for, they haven't disrespected him. It's not like they're paying Bush a ton. He's getting less than half of what Forte would. He shouldn't act like the Bears wouldn't sign him to a fair deal. The fact is his idea of fair is different than the team's.

I was referring to a couple of Forte's tweets.

Matt Forte ‏ @MattForte22

There's only so many times a man that has done everything he's been asked to do can be disrespected! Guess the GOOD GUYS do finish last....

"for the record I'm not mad at the signing of another running back. This is 4th time that's happened. I embrace competition as well as help"

"But as for not taking care of ur own and undervaluing a player under his market value is another story! #twitterrant (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23twitterrant)"

"Just Keeping it real...hate it or love it"

R_Mac_1

03-23-2012, 00:21

As a Packer fan, I find it hilarious :snicker
But, really, he needs to get paid. He was their offense last year. I don't know what they've offered him, but they should've had this locked up a long time ago
This is from last year.

Given recent statements by general manager Jerry Angelo and with the clock ticking on regular-season opener, it appears negotiations are likely coming to a close whether or not Forte agrees to the deal.
Escalation of the Forte talks coincide with San Francisco running back Frank Gore's recently signing a three-year, $21 million extension, which included $13.5 million guaranteed. While there is no indication that Gore's deal has affected the talks, the numbers certainly line up. According to NFL sources, the Bears initially used the six-year, $32 million ($10 million guaranteed) contract signed by Kansas City Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles as the baseline for a potential Forte deal. But it's believed the guaranteed portion of the Bears' actual offer to Forte is worth less than the guarantee received by Gore, which brings up an interesting conundrum for both sides.

It's generally thought that the guaranteed money is what the holdup was, and that the Bears were offering him 12-14 guaranteed and he wanted more like 20+ million.

And, honestly Forte is a great overall back but he really isn't very good in short yardage/goal line situations. That's where having a #2 punch like Michael Bush would honestly give the Bears one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL.

admartian

03-23-2012, 00:25

Exactly. I mean, having a good RB is great, but the production difference between the top paid RBs and lower-tier guys does not match the monetary gap. As a fan of the team, I don't want the whole team to suffer because too much money is tied up in a position that is as easily replaceable and unpredictable as the RB is.

Now Forte is whining on Twitter about it. I'm losing respect for the guy. I'll post something I posted on a Bears forum...

I was referring to a couple of Forte's tweets.

Matt Forte ‏ @MattForte22

There's only so many times a man that has done everything he's been asked to do can be disrespected! Guess the GOOD GUYS do finish last....

"for the record I'm not mad at the signing of another running back. This is 4th time that's happened. I embrace competition as well as help"

"But as for not taking care of ur own and undervaluing a player under his market value is another story! #twitterrant (https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23twitterrant)"

"Just Keeping it real...hate it or love it"

Completely agree with you.

Hope Rice isn't like that. As much as that would hirt, him being a class act and all, I understand he's quite replaceable.

The Black Wolf

03-23-2012, 02:37

Arian Foster is a good example of how to handle a contract situation. The key word is: patience.

admartian

03-23-2012, 02:48

Arian Foster is a good example of how to handle a contract situation. The key word is: patience.

Arian Foster is boss though. He's cool both on and off the field.

The Black Wolf

03-23-2012, 02:51

Arian Foster is boss though. He's cool both on and off the field.

Yup, he is what future NFL players should model themselves after.

$Greatness$

03-23-2012, 03:58

R_Mac_1

03-23-2012, 04:25

Yeah, that's all fine and good. But Arian Foster hasn't been dicked around by the Windy City for 3 years now. All fun and games till its time to be paid. But someone else will pay Forte eventually. Perhaps Washington? THE PLOT THICKENS!!!!!

He hasn't been dicked around much, though. They told him before last year started that they'd pay him, and they tried. Angelo made him an offer comparable (and probably better than) Jamaal Charles' deal. Forte made the choice to turn it down. Now, this year a totally new GM comes in and tries to get a deal done and it doesn't work out. Either both GMs are fools, or Forte and his agent want more money than the organization feels a RB is worth. That's fine, because Forte really has no leverage. Sign the franchise tag offer and take your 7.6 millon, or don't and get nothing. The Bears will roll out with Michael Bush and lose some production, but not much. They can tag Forte twice if they want, but next years tag will be a lot.

I want Forte as a Bear, but he's going to have to compromise a bit on the contract it seems. He's good, but not top 5 good. If that's what he's wanting for a contract, he's gonna have to hope a team more desperate than the Bears will give it to him in a year or two.
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ps3freak18

03-23-2012, 04:32

Yeah, that's all fine and good. But Arian Foster hasn't been dicked around by the Windy City for 3 years now. All fun and games till its time to be paid. But someone else will pay Forte eventually. Perhaps Washington? THE PLOT THICKENS!!!!!

Yeah the Bears have treated him like shit. I understand that you don't want to pay over the top money but damn he has been the only consistent work horse that they have. They threw money at Cutler and he isn't near the football player that Forte is. He has definitely earned top pay but they won't give it to him. Like you said someone else will though.

R_Mac_1

03-23-2012, 04:58

Yeah the Bears have treated him like shit. I understand that you don't want to pay over the top money but damn he has been the only consistent work horse that they have. They threw money at Cutler and he isn't near the football player that Forte is. He has definitely earned top pay but they won't give it to him. Like you said someone else will though.

Yeah, I honestly think Cutler is on par with Forte, actually. I think they both are just in the top 10 at their respective position, with Forte being a bit higher but not much. Difference is JC is a QB and is paid/treated as such. RBs are a much more replaceable position and are treated as such. It is what it is. How do we know that the Bears have Shit on him, really. He's been offered contracts the past two offseasons that he didn't like. It's a business and the Bears have to do what's best for them. They obviously respect him and want him enough to make him an offer and try to franchise him to keep him after he refused said offer. This isn't a charity, its a business and you can't just overpay someone because they outplayed their rookie contract.

Like I said before Forte is a great player and I hope he stays a Bear. I just hope he isn't holding out for top 3 money or something because he won't get it. My hope is the Bears can compromise just a little and its enough for him to sign an extension.

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FdMstng99

03-23-2012, 12:02

Ugh, Gabbert. *puke* Seen enough of him last year. He's Boller 2.0 with longer hair and a whiny voice.

He's got no leadership abilities and his decision making is horrible at best. I would've rather the popular and gutsy Tebow. Worse than Sanchez imo.

No sympathy for the Saints. First the bounty, and now low-ball Brees? Seriously? If you're gonna overpay in one position, it's gonna be the QB.

Gabbert just doesn't have any help in JAX except for MJD. You still have to give him a chance even though I can see Henne taking over mid season.

Forte needs to get paid. Chris Johnson got a contract that he didn't deserve. He didn't show up to camp and when he got paid then he stopped playing. Forte has been the man in Chicago and I can see him not doing what Chris Johnson did, Forte has done everything the Bears have asked.

Ray Rice is already starting to whine, he already said that he wants Adrian Peterson money and I can see this getting out of hand. We need to sign Rice and Flacco and now.

RaY_210

03-23-2012, 12:59

This is from last year.

[/B]It's generally thought that the guaranteed money is what the holdup was, and that the Bears were offering him 12-14 guaranteed and he wanted more like 20+ million.

And, honestly Forte is a great overall back but he really isn't very good in short yardage/goal line situations. That's where having a #2 punch like Michael Bush would honestly give the Bears one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL.

If all it was, was the guaranteed money, then the Bears should've given in. That's stupid, in my opinion. Now he's bitching for the second year in a row. Who knows if this is gonna screw up the locker room. It'll be interesting to see if they finally come to a deal. With the contract they gave Bush, it seems they might let him walk.

TekkenLord

03-23-2012, 15:05

Aikman: Cowboys' Romo is a better QB than I was -now if this isn't a bunch of BS i don't know what.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827d02fb/article/aikman-cowboys-romo-is-a-better-qb-than-i-was?module=HP11_headline_stack

By Troy Aikman's logic, the good folks at the Pro Football Hall of Fame might as well start sculpting Tony Romo (http://www.psu.com/players/tonyromo/profile?id=ROM787981)'s bust right now.
Aikman, much to the dismay of this writer, told the The Brownsville Herald (http://www.themonitor.com/news/aikman-59563--.html) that the current Cowboys' starting quarterback plays the position better than he ever did.

"I think Tony already is a better quarterback than I was," Aikman said. "I know how quarterbacks are judged, but as far as his play-making ability and the things that he is capable of doing, he is a far more athletic quarterback, capable of making more plays than I ever was able to. He has a good team around him and hopefully, and I believe this will happen, I believe that he will win a Super Bowl before he is done playing."
No word on if Aikman downed a bottle of Jack Daniels before the interview, but it sure sounds like he did.
If anything, Aikman was being nice just for the sake of being nice. He can't really believe this. He's a Hall of Famer with three Super Bowl rings. His leadership ability was never called into question. Romo is nowhere near Aikman's status -- not even if he wins one Super Bowl as Aikman predicted.
This is insane. Cowboys fans, on no level can you possibly agree with this. You are forbidden from agreeing with this!

RaY_210

03-23-2012, 16:54

aikman: Cowboys' romo is a better qb than i was -now if this isn't a bunch of bs i don't know what.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827d02fb/article/aikman-cowboys-romo-is-a-better-qb-than-i-was?module=hp11_headline_stack
lol!!!

$Greatness$

03-24-2012, 01:16

Ray Rice is already starting to whine, he already said that he wants Adrian Peterson money and I can see this getting out of hand. We need to sign Rice and Flacco and now.

As I told my Ravens brethren a long time ago. You sign Joe Flacco and tell Ray Rice to kick rocks in two years. And for the record, I do love Ray Rice, but he's expendable no matter how much people don't want to admit it.

btbam

03-24-2012, 04:04

Jeff Saturday, former Colts center is now a Packer. Honestly, he is one of the best centers in the league and its quite exciting to have him with A-Rog.

RaY_210

03-24-2012, 04:31

Jeff Saturday, former Colts center is now a Packer. Honestly, he is one of the best centers in the league and its quite exciting to have him with A-Rog.

Yeah. That was a great signing. I really want expecting that. A great surprise!

btbam

03-24-2012, 05:11

Yeah. That was a great signing. I really want expecting that. A great surprise!

No doubt at all. Aaron Rodgers is set to be one of the all time greats. He already had an insane QB rating last year. You can't put some backup in front of him or some weak center. I know Saturday is old and i don't see him getting more than 3-4 seasons more, but thats enough time to groom a new center for the Packers. He is among my favorite NFL players not only because he is one heck of a center (a position of importance largely ignored IMO) but he is an upstanding man in the community. Saturday is exactly what you want to see in a professional football player. Classy, engaged in the community and incredibly skilled at what he does. I wish him the best of luck with the Packs.

btbam

03-24-2012, 05:18

bash

03-24-2012, 12:35

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! The Saints let Porter walk away. WHY?!?!?!?!

RaY_210

03-24-2012, 18:57

Terms of the Packers' Saturday signing:

Jeff Saturday's two-year deal in Green Bay is worth $7.75 million, including $4 million this season.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 24, 2012
What a great steal. Can't wait for the season to start already! But so far away.

R_Mac_1

03-24-2012, 19:06

Terms of the Packers' Saturday signing:

What a great steal. Can't wait for the season to start already! But so far away.

They better hope he doesn't turn out like Olin Kreutz 2.0. But, as a Bear fan it wouldn't bother me...

+ Tapatalking on HTC Rezound +

John25

03-24-2012, 21:58

Damn you R_Mac for Taking Bush !!! lol gutted we lost him as he is a Dependable back especially when McFadden gets injured too easily.
Hopefully Taiwan Jones can step up this year ,he looked good in the pre-season game against the Saints.but didn't do much all year.

ps3freak18

03-26-2012, 04:27

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! The Saints let Porter walk away. WHY?!?!?!?!
Honestly I wasn't really upset by the move. He's been good but not great. His single moment was winning the SB for them. Other than that he is a ok/good CB. I think they will be ok with whoever they sign. He has been on the decline for the past 2 years. Plus he wanted too much money.

$Greatness$

03-26-2012, 08:43

Honestly I wasn't really upset by the move. He's been good but not great. His single moment was winning the SB for them. Other than that he is a ok/good CB. I think they will be ok with whoever they sign. He has been on the decline for the past 2 years. Plus he wanted too much money.

You are very intelligent. You must be the spawn of $Greatness$ himself. :lol:

FdMstng99

03-26-2012, 11:15

As I told my Ravens brethren a long time ago. You sign Joe Flacco and tell Ray Rice to kick rocks in two years. And for the record, I do love Ray Rice, but he's expendable no matter how much people don't want to admit it.

I agree with you, RB are easily replaceable now in the NFL. But it would be hard to replace him with the production Rice gives the Raven's offense as of right now.

ps3freak18

03-26-2012, 15:34

I agree with you, RB are easily replaceable now in the NFL. But it would be hard to replace him with the production Rice gives the Raven's offense as of right now.

I love the way teams just kind of throw the good RBs by the wayside if they start asking for much money. In theory it is mostly true but Rice is one of those few that are not. A list of the ones like that are Forte, Rice, Foster (I think still need to see him do what he's doing a few more seasons), Peterson, MoJo, and maybe a select few. There are just some guys that are just adept to the position even better than these top running backs out of college. Trent Richardson is about the only one in the past few years that I think might fall into this category. Even the media portrays it as easy to come by but these guys are just so much of the offense that it just isn't the case.

RaY_210

03-26-2012, 16:19

I love the way teams just kind of throw the good RBs by the wayside if they start asking for much money. In theory it is mostly true but Rice is one of those few that are not. A list of the ones like that are Forte, Rice, Foster (I think still need to see him do what he's doing a few more seasons), Peterson, MoJo, and maybe a select few. There are just some guys that are just adept to the position even better than these top running backs out of college. Trent Richardson is about the only one in the past few years that I think might fall into this category. Even the media portrays it as easy to come by but these guys are just so much of the offense that it just isn't the case.

I agree. I know it's a passing league now and all that, but RB's are really undervalued. When you've got one that can run, block, and catch out of the backfield, it just opens up so much for everything else. And Foster's legit. Not sure how much you've seen of him, but he's no fluke

ps3freak18

03-26-2012, 16:47

I agree. I know it's a passing league now and all that, but RB's are really undervalued. When you've got one that can run, block, and catch out of the backfield, it just opens up so much for everything else. And Foster's legit. Not sure how much you've seen of him, but he's no fluke

Oh I agree he is legit but mostly referring to injury issue. Although he only has had one injury. Some of the best players ever turned out to be not so great due to being injury prone. I watched him in college a good bit and some games in the NFL when I get a chance and he is a special player. I really do hope he keeps this up because it is good for him and the Texans which are one of my favorite teams in the AFC. I like seeing any SEC players succeed in the NFL.

RaY_210

03-26-2012, 20:18

Oh I agree he is legit but mostly referring to injury issue. Although he only has had one injury. Some of the best players ever turned out to be not so great due to being injury prone. I watched him in college a good bit and some games in the NFL when I get a chance and he is a special player. I really do hope he keeps this up because it is good for him and the Texans which are one of my favorite teams in the AFC. I like seeing any SEC players succeed in the NFL.

Ah ok. Yeah, I think it was due to the lockout, but only time will tell. Same here. Been a Packer fan most of my life, but when the Texans formed, I knew I had to make a small place for them. Lol. Being in neither Dallas or Houston, I never had a home team to root for. And although I was born and raised, and love it here, this whole damn city is obsessed with the Cowboys. It's annoying and that's what put me off of them and turned me into a hater lol. That's why I'm glad theres another texas team again

The Black Wolf

03-26-2012, 22:09

If the NFL ever decides to add another team, Texas along with California will probably be the states with the new teams. San Antonio will probably be the city for Texas new team.

ps3freak18

03-26-2012, 22:42

Ah ok. Yeah, I think it was due to the lockout, but only time will tell. Same here. Been a Packer fan most of my life, but when the Texans formed, I knew I had to make a small place for them. Lol. Being in neither Dallas or Houston, I never had a home team to root for. And although I was born and raised, and love it here, this whole damn city is obsessed with the Cowboys. It's annoying and that's what put me off of them and turned me into a hater lol. That's why I'm glad theres another texas team again

I absolutely loathe the Cowboys. They are just too much of a rockstar type of team. Plus their owner bugs the hell out of me too. There are even a good bit of Cowboys fans here in Louisiana that hate the Saints for some reason unbeknownst to me.

FdMstng99

03-27-2012, 12:08

I love the way teams just kind of throw the good RBs by the wayside if they start asking for much money. In theory it is mostly true but Rice is one of those few that are not. A list of the ones like that are Forte, Rice, Foster (I think still need to see him do what he's doing a few more seasons), Peterson, MoJo, and maybe a select few. There are just some guys that are just adept to the position even better than these top running backs out of college. Trent Richardson is about the only one in the past few years that I think might fall into this category. Even the media portrays it as easy to come by but these guys are just so much of the offense that it just isn't the case.

I really like Trent Richardson but coming out of college I thought that Mark Ingram was going to be a beast going into the NFL but he really hasn't done much. Maybe it's because he went to the Saints and they hardly ever really run the ball.

ps3freak18

03-27-2012, 17:04

I really like Trent Richardson but coming out of college I thought that Mark Ingram was going to be a beast going into the NFL but he really hasn't done much. Maybe it's because he went to the Saints and they hardly ever really run the ball.

Same here. I lost faith though after watching him play last year. He showed flashes but nothing to jump up and down about. He might be better down the road but I'm thinking he is going to fizzle out after a few years and a few injuries. Sadly because I was pumped when they picked him last year.

The Black Wolf

03-27-2012, 21:47

Not saying I hate Ingram or anything, but I thought the Saints reached on him. Scouts had found out he had arthiritis in his knee and that he wasn't going to last long term in the NFL. I would have picked him in the 2nd round.

Trent Richardson is a different story. I believe he may be like Adrian Peterson and worth a top 10 overall pick.

$Greatness$

03-28-2012, 11:10

Not saying I hate Ingram or anything, but I thought the Saints reached on him. Scouts had found out he had arthiritis in his knee and that he wasn't going to last long term in the NFL. I would have picked him in the 2nd round.Trent Richardson is a different story. I believe he may be like Adrian Peterson and worth a top 10 overall pick.

Not gonna happen. Why you ask? Because it just ain't gonna happen! AP is just on a different level than everybody.

FdMstng99

03-28-2012, 11:55

I agree, I think AP is just a different kind of player. I just hope that Trent Richardson doesn't turn out to be another Mark Ingram. Loved watching these guys play in college.

The Black Wolf

03-28-2012, 13:56

Not gonna happen. Why you ask? Because it just ain't gonna happen! AP is just on a different level than everybody.

Is he on a different level than Chris Johnson?

RaY_210

03-28-2012, 15:30

Is he on a different level than Chris Johnson?

He's overrated.

The Black Wolf

03-28-2012, 21:56

He's overrated.

I think he's more lazy than overrated. He got paid and hasn't produced, but I don't think it's because he lacks the talent to produce.

RaY_210

03-28-2012, 23:57

I think he's more lazy than overrated. He got paid and hasn't produced, but I don't think it's because he lacks the talent to produce.

Tomato, to-mah-to I guess. I agree with what you say, but because of that fact, I see it as overrated.

btbam

03-29-2012, 05:54

If the NFL ever decides to add another team, Texas along with California will probably be the states with the new teams. San Antonio will probably be the city for Texas new team.

they won't add teams in texas or cali. I know they are freakin big, but 2 is about the cap i can expect on any state (raiders are just a league of thier own lol). I think Iowa is prime terriory. when you think about it, football is huge. Hawkey fans goe nuts football. i think a team would succeed out there, but its a matter of having the infrasturcutre to support the team. that or hawaii...need a nice sunny stadium and make em play in lambo dead of winter bahahaha.

FdMstng99

03-29-2012, 11:41

they won't add teams in texas or cali. I know they are freakin big, but 2 is about the cap i can expect on any state (raiders are just a league of thier own lol). I think Iowa is prime terriory. when you think about it, football is huge. Hawkey fans goe nuts football. i think a team would succeed out there, but its a matter of having the infrasturcutre to support the team. that or hawaii...need a nice sunny stadium and make em play in lambo dead of winter bahahaha.

I think a team in Hawaii would suffer like sport teams do in Florida. Just to many things to do instead of going to sporting events.

Chris Johnson used to be elite but he got paid and doesn't care now. Some of these football players whine about getting paid and when they do they are never the same player.

The Black Wolf

03-29-2012, 13:21

they won't add teams in texas or cali. I know they are freakin big, but 2 is about the cap i can expect on any state (raiders are just a league of thier own lol). I think Iowa is prime terriory. when you think about it, football is huge. Hawkey fans goe nuts football. i think a team would succeed out there, but its a matter of having the infrasturcutre to support the team. that or hawaii...need a nice sunny stadium and make em play in lambo dead of winter bahahaha.

Are you sure the cap is at 2? New York has three, the Bills, the Jets, and the Giants.

btbam

03-29-2012, 15:16

Are you sure the cap is at 2? New York has three, the Bills, the Jets, and the Giants.

There is not an actual cap, and the jets are practically jersey. I'm just saying a state can't sustain a bunch of teams IMO. It dilutes the fan base

The Black Wolf

04-01-2012, 03:33

There is not an actual cap, and the jets are practically jersey. I'm just saying a state can't sustain a bunch of teams IMO. It dilutes the fan base

That's true.

Firefox

04-02-2012, 01:45

HILLARIOUS Mock Draft. :lol:

http://youtu.be/FAPqRMfjKy4

http://youtu.be/FAPqRMfjKy4

FdMstng99

04-05-2012, 17:46

The Ravens signed Webb to a 6 year deal, good signing by the Ravens. Now we just need to get Rice and Flacco's contracts done.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/05/ravens-announce-six-year-deal-with-lardarius-webb/

The Black Wolf

04-05-2012, 18:44

Yeah, Rice is getting mad. They should get him signed soon, or else he'll start missing practice.

The Black Wolf

04-06-2012, 02:21

Ed Reed is asking for more money and he's due 7 million this year.

DayWalker

04-06-2012, 04:31

pay reed WHATEVER he wants.

$Greatness$

04-06-2012, 04:58

pay reed WHATEVER he wants.

I's agree!

Oh, and tell Ray Rice kick rocks. Yeah, he a beast, but tell him show up in the playoffs. Can't live on that 2009 73 yard run forever. You take the Arrian Foster deal or I'll help you to BWI.

Noxia

04-06-2012, 11:06

Only me

FdMstng99

04-06-2012, 12:00

I's agree!

Oh, and tell Ray Rice kick rocks. Yeah, he a beast, but tell him show up in the playoffs. Can't live on that 2009 73 yard run forever. You take the Arrian Foster deal or I'll help you to BWI.

Agreed, Reed can have whatever he wants.

I think Rice will get a little more then what Foster got but Foster's deal is in place and they can use his deal as a template for Rice's deal. I'm betting that the Ravens will be drafting RB depth in the draft just incase they can't get a deal done with Rice and he decides to hold out.