NFL Thread

[ps3freak18]

I really didn't have a problem with the williams pre game speech minus the ACL comment. That was messed up. I hate to say it but I'm sure something along the Gore comments go on in every locker room. Just my opinion.

[The Black Wolf]

PSU NFL Draft Mock contest:
http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread.php/291142-2012-PSU-NFL-Mock-Draft-Contest

[$Greatness$]

So Ravens' fans would rather pay an old and aging Ed Reed than a young and upcoming Ray Rice?

I damn sure would. I like Ray Rice, he's a beast, but I can replace him. Yeah he got that Marshall Faulk factor, but I personally think Anthony Allen and Damien Berry can give me his production between the two. Now Eddy Reed? Can't just throw any fraud back there. Tom Brady knows where Ed is at all times. Can't say the same thing for the likes of Bernard Pollard and Co. lol

But I will say I don't like Reed coming out talking this ole bullshit since he knows we're in a tight situation with the CAP. He was at one time the highest paid Safety given when he signed the deal. This talk of 'disrespect' is tomfoolery, but I have Reed glasses on because he's my favorite Raven of all-time so he gets a pass. Ray Rice holding out is laughable to me.

I'll be the first to say he's overvaluing himself! Cause again, he's All-World in the regular season, but I haven't seen him in the playoffs the last two years. My QB and Football savior Joe Flacco might be chills in the regular season, but he's locked-in when the playoffs come around. Just too bad frauds can't catch footballs or he'd be in back-to-back bowls. :(

NOXY SIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi buddy :D

[John25]

lol my Favourite Game of the year Raiders @ Ravens .I know Ravens fans have Chalked this up as a loss but Still,should be a great game



:p

[$Greatness$]

lol my Favourite Game of the year Raiders @ Ravens .I know Ravens fans have Chalked this up as a loss but Still,should be a great game



:p

Have y'all even beaten the Ravens... ever? :lol:

[Noxia]

Dug out my Ravens jersey earlier. Wore it to the shop when I picked up some snacks.
Um, that's it really.

[John25]

Have y'all even beaten the Ravens... ever? :lol:

lol I think we are 1-5 against you guys :P

But Nah should be a good game at the M&T ,Raiders need to avenge that Siragusa Belly Flop on Gannon
:P

[$Greatness$]

lol I think we are 1-5 against you guys :P

But Nah should be a good game at the M&T ,Raiders need to avenge that Siragusa Belly Flop on Gannon
:P

lol, I guess Raider Nation will never live that down. Should be a good game and Carson Palmer always gave my Ravens a fit.

[John25]

Well he'll have had a Full off-season & Camp with the Team now so no more excuses if he Sucks this season ,Hopefully McFadden goes into Beast Mode again & isn't injured by that Game :p

But this will be the guy to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBW9QvwF8fU&list=FLUHvlo_ViuecGTzzkkEF-Wg&index=3&feature=plpp_video

[FdMstng99]

lol I think we are 1-5 against you guys :P

But Nah should be a good game at the M&T ,Raiders need to avenge that Siragusa Belly Flop on Gannon
:P

LOL I remember that!!

And Reed can have whatever he wants!

[The Black Wolf]

The draft is 9 days away, who do you want your team to pick?

I want the Dolphins to get Blackmon or Floyd.

[DayWalker]

I want an impact player. Don't care who or where.

Manning averages 26 pts a game... I'd like to have a defense that can hold opponents under 26 pts please.

[$Greatness$]

Not one person in the world can tell me that the Ravens aren't the red-headed stepchild of the NFL. So we're going to M&T Bank West (Qualcomm Stadium) for like the 4th year in a row! The Chargers...

[The Black Wolf]

I want an impact player. Don't care who or where.

Manning averages 26 pts a game... I'd like to have a defense that can hold opponents under 26 pts please.

:)

I argee, Miller can't do it alone.

Did you see the Broncos 2012 schedule? They just released the 2012 schedule today.

The Broncos' schedule is brutal.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8286152a/article/denver-broncos-2012-nfl-schedule-analysis

[admartian]

This.

[DayWalker]

:)

I argee, Miller can't do it alone.

Did you see the Broncos 2012 schedule? They just released the 2012 schedule today.

The Broncos' schedule is brutal.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8286152a/article/denver-broncos-2012-nfl-schedule-analysis

In Peyton We Trust ;)

Honestly, if our defense continues its positive trend, and I think they will will the addition of Del Rio... The Broncos should be in pretty good shape.

[ps3freak18]

In Peyton We Trust ;)

Honestly, if our defense continues its positive trend, and I think they will will the addition of Del Rio... The Broncos should be in pretty good shape.

Definitely. The Broncos are for sure a contender. They just need the QB which they have now. Solid defense and with the addition of Peyton, I could see this team making a playoff run.

[RaY_210]

I've been wanting to go to a Texans game for years now. But now that the Packers are going there, I will find a way to go! Lol. It's just ironic that now that I'm finally gonna go, I'm gonna be rooting against them lol

[FdMstng99]

Would love the Ravens to get the safety Barron but doubt he drops that far. <br />
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I can see the Dolphins getting Floyd, Blackmon will be gone by the time the Dolphins pick unless they trade up. But if...

[John25]

I want an impact player. Don't care who or where.

Manning averages 26 pts a game... I'd like to have a defense that can hold opponents under 26 pts please.

But that was with the Colts & Before he got that injury, Who knows what he's gonna play like this year.

[The Boy From School]

No Monday nighter this year. :(

[admartian]

The week 11-13 schedule still baffles me.

I've never thought the Ravens woud ever be a 'darling' team (you know, where commentators and the analysts continually "bob their heads on those teams' laps up and down" for) of the NFL.

But this just makes me think Goodell nor most of the owners, think anything of us.

Hope this fuels a fire in that locker room like never before...

[FdMstng99]

I read that the Ravens brought in a few QB's in for a workout including Kyle Boller. Really?? Boller??

[ps3freak18]

I read that the Ravens brought in a few QB's in for a workout including Kyle Boller. Really?? Boller??

Kyle Boller...Ughhhhh!

[The Black Wolf]

I thought Kyle Boller was an analyst on CNN.

Edit:
I meant ESPN.

[admartian]

I read that the Ravens brought in a few QB's in for a workout including Kyle Boller. Really?? Boller??

I wouldn't actually mind. He could spell Flacco when we're up by 20.

Though I would've much preferred for them to bring Matt Leinart in.

[$Greatness$]

Call me a Boller apologist. While he was an absolute fraud here in Baltimore, he also got a raw deal. I truly believe he would have had a decent year in '08 had he not tore his shoulder. I would like Kyle back in Baltimore as a backup, but this is news is just to test tyrod. No one should worry.

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[admartian]

Call me a Boller apologist. While he was an absolute fraud here in Baltimore, he also got a raw deal. I truly believe he would have had a decent year in '08 had he not tore his shoulder. I would like Kyle back in Baltimore as a backup, but this is news is just to test tyrod. No one should worry.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using TapatalkToo bad bad we signed Painter.

Here's hoping he isn't our actual 3rd string.

[bash]

lol, I read that earlier today. I couldn't stop loling. I really hope Flacco goes on IR now!

[$Greatness$]

lol, I read that earlier today. I couldn't stop loling. I really hope Flacco goes on IR now!

Don't make me skin you, boy!

And as I told my cousin today, I hope people understand Painter is nothing more than camp fodder. If you honestly believe he has any shot at starting on the team, then you're a fool. If Flacco was done for the year (I'll cry btw) then the Ravens will go out and get a proven vet, perhaps calling Mark Bulger. Painter would be lucky to make the team come the regular season.

But let's get excited for the draft! How about Irsay being anti-climatic by announcing he'll pick Luck. Why doesn't anyone like the suspense anymore? What will teams do? Who will they pick? I'm glad NFL Network and The Worldwide circus of Sports are not tipping picks on TV this year.

[FdMstng99]

Don't make me skin you, boy!

And as I told my cousin today, I hope people understand Painter is nothing more than camp fodder. If you honestly believe he has any shot at starting on the team, then you're a fool. If Flacco was done for the year (I'll cry btw) then the Ravens will go out and get a proven vet, perhaps calling Mark Bulger. Painter would be lucky to make the team come the regular season.

But let's get excited for the draft! How about Irsay being anti-climatic by announcing he'll pick Luck. Why doesn't anyone like the suspense anymore? What will teams do? Who will they pick? I'm glad NFL Network and The Worldwide circus of Sports are not tipping picks on TV this year.

Yup Painter is nothing more than just a camp arm and I really doubt he makes the team out of camp. Tyrod is clearly the #2 QB in baltimore. I was a fan of Boller but I also think he got a raw deal in Baltimore. Brian Billick made him the starter and Boller had no offensive line and no one to throw too. Would have liked to see what he could of done on a better offensive team.

I like the networks not tipping picks this year. Not to worried about finding out about Luck, everyone knew he was going first anyway. I'm just tired of it every year we know who the first few picks are before even draft day. Just a few years ago no one really cared about the draft, we didn't have all this draft coverage. Now it's all over the place. I still would love to see a draft in person one year.

[RaY_210]

Damn, theres too many Ravens fans here. Is PSU based out of Baltimore or something? Lol jk guys. But really? Painter? Just another body or not, that's still funny. Well maybe I shouldn't laugh so much. He did beat the Texans last year :/

[TekkenLord]

just check out the season games for the 49ers, we have some tuff games coming.

[RaY_210]

just check out the season games for the 49ers, we have some tuff games coming.

Looking forward to Week 1!

[XDanny70]

the seahawks are going to the bowl and matt flynn is going to be a future all pro HOF. and we want the steelers in the super bowl so we can get some revenge for the infamous 2005 screw job

[admartian]

Damn, theres too many Ravens fans here. Is PSU based out of Baltimore or something? Lol jk guys. But really? Painter? Just another body or not, that's still funny. Well maybe I shouldn't laugh so much. He did beat the Texans last year :/

Didn't used to be that way. Guys like DayWalker and KingJordan etc used to post here often. TBH, PSU is not much the same as it used to be.

Anywho; this MOCK DRAFT (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d8288dc3b/article/sevenround-mock-projecting-every-pick-in-2012-nfl-draft?module=HP11_content_stream) has us taking Burfict in the 7th, and Streeter in the 3rd.



EDIT: Welcome to the thread/forums XDanny70! Let's hope Matt Flynn isn't a two game wonder. Though your defense is coming along nicely. :)

[John25]

lot of Talk of The Raiders picking up Burfict

[admartian]

lot of Talk of The Raiders picking up Burfict
Wouldn't surprise me.

What round though?

I think it's a bad move for his career, as I don't think the Raiders have the organisational clout to reel in a player with his attitude.

It would be good for him because he'll get to run riot. But bad in the end as he'll probably no develop under that team and be out of the league or never reach his true potential.

The Steelers, Ravens, Patriots, and 49ers are perfect fits for him. Winning teams (so he doesn't get disgruntled and moan) with plenty of mentors as well as defensive schemes to suit his play style.

[John25]

Wouldn't surprise me.

What round though?

I think it's a bad move for his career, as I don't think the Raiders have the organisational clout to reel in a player with his attitude.

It would be good for him because he'll get to run riot. But bad in the end as he'll probably no develop under that team and be out of the league or never reach his true potential.

The Steelers, Ravens, Patriots, and 49ers are perfect fits for him. Winning teams (so he doesn't get disgruntled and moan) with plenty of mentors as well as defensive schemes to suit his play style.

Not sure what Round due to his attitude per say which would no doubt put off a lot of Teams picking him up early

But to your your *Winning Teams* Comment Normally I would agree but look at the Games the Raiders lost last year and why they lost them we lit up teams that were lighting up other teams like the Lions/Bills etc but then only lost them due to Chuck Bresnans shoddy D play calling not to Mention losing our QB mid-way through the Season and bringing a QB that came off the couch.

But my Raiders don't have Al Calling the Shots no more and are Set Offensively with one of the best explosive RB'S in the League and Speedy WR Corp to match even DHB is proving to be a great Al Davis pick & D Moore is Clutch so is Ford, and with CP3 having a full offseason to learn the playbook ,Look out!!

on the Defense we really only need to pick up a solid LB and a couple of Tackles ,but most importantly we don't have Chuck Breshnan no more !!!

[RaY_210]

Damn! First Clifton, now Collins. I know it makes sense in every way, but it still sucks. Sad day for Packers fans. I hope they (don't!) finish the set and release Driver. I think he still has one more year in him.

Edit: Damn! Guess that's what I get for posting drunk last night lol

[FdMstng99]

I wouldn't mind the Ravens taking a chance on Burfict with a 7th round pick.

Read something that said if Clifton heals up before training camp that he may be resigned.

[RaY_210]

I wouldn't mind the Ravens taking a chance on Burfict with a 7th round pick.

Read something that said if Clifton heals up before training camp that he may be resigned.

Oh really? I don't know. I love the guy, but he is quite literally on his last legs. Unless Sherrod is having problems healing up, I don't think it makes any sense. Saturday is up there in age as well, but he doesn't have the injury history that Clifton has. I guess only time will tell.

[admartian]

Not sure what Round due to his attitude per say which would no doubt put off a lot of Teams picking him up early

But to your your *Winning Teams* Comment Normally I would agree but look at the Games the Raiders lost last year and why they lost them we lit up teams that were lighting up other teams like the Lions/Bills etc but then only lost them due to Chuck Bresnans shoddy D play calling not to Mention losing our QB mid-way through the Season and bringing a QB that came off the couch.

But my Raiders don't have Al Calling the Shots no more and are Set Offensively with one of the best explosive RB'S in the League and Speedy WR Corp to match even DHB is proving to be a great Al Davis pick & D Moore is Clutch so is Ford, and with CP3 having a full offseason to learn the playbook ,Look out!!

on the Defense we really only need to pick up a solid LB and a couple of Tackles ,but most importantly we don't have Chuck Breshnan no more !!!I didn't mean to say that the Riaders weren't competitive last year. I was merely pointing that they haven't had that type of culture for some time, and have been quite undisciplined over the years.

No doubt they looked better though. Let's hope they shore up RB in case/when DMC gets hurt. I've heard a lot about Taiwan Jones, but wouldn't hurt having another guy there now that Bush is gone. :)

[Funeralfog]

why the fuck is the draft on tv? just tell us who is number 1, then play actual sports

[btbam]

why the fuck is the draft on tv? just tell us who is number 1, then play actual sports

1 is Andrew luck lol. Personally I think they should pick RG III but...colts announced yesterday they were taking luck and it's been speculated for months.

[ps3freak18]

1 is Andrew luck lol. Personally I think they should pick RG III but...colts announced yesterday they were taking luck and it's been speculated for months.

I think you could flip a coin with the Luck or RG3 and still come out just fine

[FdMstng99]

Draft time!!!

I like that they are putting the names on the back of the jerseys.

The draft is moving very fast. Trades are happening before the pick before is even called.

[$Greatness$]

Rams trolled everyone. Same with the Bucs. My mock is all fucked up.

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[admartian]

Rams trolled everyone. Same with the Bucs. My mock is all fucked up.

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalklol same.

Called Blackmon going to the Jags though. :D

[$Greatness$]

Day one wrap-up.

Winners
1) Patriots
- They stole Hightower from me AND they get Chandler Jones. Shit just got REAL!

2) Vikings
- Solidified the O-line with Kalil. Raped the Browns and got a decent value with Harrison Smith

3) Cowboys
- Got Claiborne and didn't have to give up much

4) Steelers
- Greatest Value pick All night! DeCastro is a beast!

Losers

1) Browns
- Stupidest franchise in the history of all sports after this shit. I should be happy since we're in the same division, but there fuck-up has me raging. I can't believe Mike Holmgren is able to sleep tonight after putting that shit round together.

2) Seahawks
- Alright... What the fuck man! I mean, what the fuck! What a reach!

But don't totally fret! The Ravens can will the draft if we get any combination of Glenn/Upshaw/Hill

I personally want the Upshaw/Hill combo! Let's go Ozzie! Do me proud my nig!

[John25]

You think the Chargers drafting Ingram wasn't a Top Winning pick ??

[$Greatness$]

I just noticed I didn't add them in there. I put them in the winners bracket on all the other forums I went to. I must've forgot, but hell yeah they won! Jets would be losers for passing on Ingram,...

[ps3freak18]

I think the move up one spot for 3 picks was dumb but honestly I liked their picks. Richardson and Weeden are great picks in my book. Weeden has played pro sport before so he knows the pressure. His age is a factor but if he starts by late next year or first game of following season you can still easily get 10 years out of him. Which is about the norm for most QBs with the exception of guys like Favre and Manning.

[RaY_210]

After reading a bit, I'm a bit iffy on the Texans picks. Not Mercilus, but Posey more than Brooks. And I'm totally loving what the Packers have done so far. The season came come soon enough

[$Greatness$]

My man Ozzie has gambled and got dealt with for the past 2 days. We lost Hightower, Konz and Sanu. I really wanted Konz and Hill with that second pick. I thought Ozzie would move up, but he stood pat. Then we trade up just to get dealt with by the Bengals and draft the RB out of Temple. I still trust Ozzie, but we got dealt with this time around even though I'm hyped about the Upshaw pick. I do like the pick of KO with the second pick, but I did want Konz or Hill there. Really wish we would have got T.Y Hilton, too, but oh well.

Day 3! Bring me a Hall of Famer on the offensive side of the ball!

[bash]

Bears had a great draft so far too. We have 2 legit new WRs, we got a new DE and a safety. Can't wait till the season starts.

The only thing thats worrying me is that we didn't get any oline help.

[The Black Wolf]

Really proud of my dolphins, they had a really good draft. :D

[ps3freak18]

What do you guys think about the Saints draft with the limited number of picks they had? I liked the Hicks and Toon picks for sure. Hicks has to be worked with but I think in 2 years he could wind up being a force. Don't know much about Toon but from what I've seen he looks pretty damn good. I've seen reports concerned with injury concerns but outside of that he has great size for a WR. The other picks I don't know much about them why I'm looking for others opinions.

[John25]

I don't Follow College ball but the General Concensus was the Raiders got a B- for their Picks (one of them being a Fellow Brit called Jack Crawford DE which is awesome

Was great to see Reggie McKenzie work his magic by trading a 5th to Detroit for a 5th 10 places lower plus a 7th Too

[admartian]

Apart from the Ravens first 2 picks; I give them a C. Too many guys left on the board, and I feel, that the Ravens get 'too cute' with their picks (i.e. too much into the 'value' or 'unknown' player).

For example, they took Temple at the end of the 3rd when Miller was still on the board. They take some random guard instead of taking a center like Molk or Vlachos - where we don't have depth at C and already having Osemele at G AND while guys like Crick and Ta'amu are still on the board!!!!!!!They take some random OL instead of smoeone like Bobby Massie late.

Now unless someone wants to tell me why those guys are better prospects, I'm sticking to my guns.

Really questionable, and right now "I'm 'in Ozzie I kinda only sort of trust right now..." :roll:

Being conservative is all well and good but sometimes, if there's good talent there, it's GOOD to trade up (see Pats in the 1st).



The Bengals probably had the best draft in my books.

[R_Mac_1]

Apart from the Ravens first 2 picks; I give them a C. Too many guys left on the board, and I feel, that the Ravens get 'too cute' with their picks (i.e. too much into the 'value' or 'unknown' player).

For example, they took Temple at the end of the 3rd when Miller was still on the board. They take some random guard instead of taking a center like Molk or Vlachos - where we don't have depth at C and already having Osemele at G AND while guys like Crick and Ta'amu are still on the board!!!!!!!They take some random OL instead of smoeone like Bobby Massie late.

Now unless someone wants to tell me why those guys are better prospects, I'm sticking to my guns.

Really questionable, and right now "I'm 'in Ozzie I kinda only sort of trust right now..." :roll:

Being conservative is all well and good but sometimes, if there's good talent there, it's GOOD to trade up (see Pats in the 1st).



The Bengals probably had the best draft in my books.

I think the knock on Massie was his questionable intelligence, attitude and work ethic. There had to be a good reason every team passed on him for so long. Trust me, half of the Bears forum was bitching about not taking Massie, then the concerns about him came out. That being said, he's worth the risk later.

I really hope the safety Hardin can develop well for the Bears. I see why some people queston the pick, but I also see what Emery was trying to do with the pick. Dudes a beast (6-3 220) that can hit but has good cover skills, being a corner and all. He could be a tight end equalizer. Hopefully his shoulder injury was just a freak occurrence and he doesn't turn into Mike Brown 2.0 (injury-wise).

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[bash]

I think the knock on Massie was his questionable intelligence, attitude and work ethic. There had to be a good reason every team passed on him for so long. Trust me, half of the Bears forum was bitching about not taking Massie, then the concerns about him came out. That being said, he's worth the risk later.

I really hope the safety Hardin can develop well for the Bears. I see why some people queston the pick, but I also see what Emery was trying to do with the pick. Dudes a beast (6-3 220) that can hit but has good cover skills, being a corner and all. He could be a tight end equalizer. Hopefully his shoulder injury was just a freak occurrence and he doesn't turn into Mike Brown 2.0 (injury-wise).

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I think people are complaining about that pick because we still have no one to cover deep routes. We gave up a lot of home run plays last year...

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[FdMstng99]

I'm still kind of pissed that the Pats traded up in front of us and got Hightower. Ravens should have moved up to get him. I am glad we got Upshaw but the way it looked I thought someone was going to trade in front of us again and grab him. I also would have liked to get Konz or Hill as well. The later rounds wasn't too bad, I agree with you admartian but lets she how these picks do over the next couple years.

[admartian]

I'm still kind of pissed that the Pats traded up in front of us and got Hightower. Ravens should have moved up to get him. I am glad we got Upshaw but the way it looked I thought someone was going to trade in front of us again and grab him. I also would have liked to get Konz or Hill as well. The later rounds wasn't too bad, I agree with you admartian but lets she how these picks do over the next couple years.
I was kinda happy Konz fell deep into the 2nd where I thought we could trade up for him (using that 4th rounder we got for trading down). But I think it was very very risky for us to wait for Konz or even Osemele at that stage, because we still needed to address the interior line. And someone could have very well traded up for Osmele.

So I think if we had to trade up, then it should have been then.

I do agree, let's wait and see. Though I don't have much faith since lately our late round picks have been non-contributional.

I just hope we don't turn Streeter into the next Marcus Smith, Justin Harper, Demetrius Williams etc etc. He's got as much upside as Stephen Hill minus the hype. I think he's a steal providing Cam Cam uses him well. If he doesn't then it's a head scratcher, cos someone at the Raven boards said he's a perfect fit for his Air Coryell.

Also, starting to warm to the Bernard Pierce pick, and a little more on the Gradkowski pick.

[FdMstng99]

I just don't know if I have the confidence in Cam to get the most out of Streeter, I really like that pick too.

[R_Mac_1]

Junior Seau dead, apparently by self inflicted gunshot wound.

http://m.tmz.com/article_head.ftl?id=http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

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[Royals]

Junior Seau dead, apparently by self inflicted gunshot wound.

http://m.tmz.com/article_head.ftl?id=http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/

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Yeah just saw this on ESPN, suicide is never the solution.

[admartian]

This is so sad.

One of the players I grew up watching the sport.

R.I.P sir.

[Funeralfog]

RIP Seau, that was a shock, maybe it was because of '07

[The Black Wolf]

He will be missed. :(

[Sub-stance1]

Dude was one hell of a linebacker.

[ps3freak18]

Yeah sad news indeed. Hate to see when someone decides to take their life.

[$Greatness$]

That is truly sad. I hope left never gets that bad for me that I would do something so selfish as to take my own life. Not when I see many people suffering from way worse matters than anything I could muster up, making me look like a total smuck. But none the less, may the Lord rest his soul. Tremendous player. I remember when that story came out a couple years ago when he had that car accident that many said was a suicide attempt. Wonder what happened?

But to go back to football, the Ravens went the safe route. Didn't make any silly mistakes in the draft, but they didn't go out and grab a play-maker who, in my opinion, instantly made us better. Outside of us getting Upshaw of course, but he'll be in a deadlock battle with my man Elm Street. (Paul Kruger if you didn't know) Streeter is a nice project who fits Cam's system. Gonna be interesting to see what happens with him. I still trust my man Tandon Doss who I still believe is going to be a beast.

Kinda wish we would have traded up for David DeCastro once we started sliding down the board.

[admartian]

That is truly sad. I hope left never gets that bad for me that I would do something so selfish as to take my own life. Not when I see many people suffering from way worse matters than anything I could muster up, making me look like a total smuck. But none the less, may the Lord rest his soul. Tremendous player. I remember when that story came out a couple years ago when he had that car accident that many said was a suicide attempt. Wonder what happened?

But to go back to football, the Ravens went the safe route. Didn't make any silly mistakes in the draft, but they didn't go out and grab a play-maker who, in my opinion, instantly made us better. Outside of us getting Upshaw of course, but he'll be in a deadlock battle with my man Elm Street. (Paul Kruger if you didn't know) Streeter is a nice project who fits Cam's system. Gonna be interesting to see what happens with him. I still trust my man Tandon Doss who I still believe is going to be a beast.

Kinda wish we would have traded up for David DeCastro once we started sliding down the board.

Double agree.

On the first note, it's easy to lose sight of things, no matter how bad things get, let's hope the worse I get is power ballads and a bottles beer.

I'm more comfortable about our draft now that it's sunk in. Like you, the only regret is getting Konz deep in the second. But I think the FO is confident there'll be good talent there next year (seeing as we aren't truly F'd as we do still have Birk).

As for Doss, I'd genuinely like to see what he can do. Also, I think if there's a roster spot, and it ahs to go down between Streeter and David Reed, Is ay give it to Streeter. Reed doesn't deserve to be there and I'm sure someone else can cover the return duties.

[The Black Wolf]

Jonathan Vilma got punished severly for the bounty program and will appeal it. He's going to be gone for a year.

Do you guys agree with the players, that Goodell is being too harsh?

[ps3freak18]

Jonathan Vilma got punished severly for the bounty program and will appeal it. He's going to be gone for a year.

Do you guys agree with the players, that Goodell is being too harsh?

Utter bullshit is what it is. Let's not forgot this guy was being coached. Do you think he was going to go against his coaches word? Nope! His participation doesn't warrant a full season. Not to mention does Goddell really have the power to make this call? This is an on and off the field issue that he also has no hard evidence against him! This is going to turn into a battle with the PA and NFL. I can't wait until this bitch of a commissioner is out of there. Problem is the owners love him.

I say 4-6 games for Vilma
3-5 for Hargrove
and 2 for Smith and Fujita.

[The Black Wolf]

Not only do the owners love him, they gave him a contract extension.

He's going to be there for a long time.

[admartian]

I agree with the reasoning of the NFL - a bounty program cannot exist without willing participants (the players). Therefore, the punishment completely, and utterly, is fair.

Can it be shortened? I believe so. But I wouldn't budge on anything than less than 14 games. I'd at least allow him to play twice.

I'm probably one of the first in line for toughness in the league - being a Ravens fan, our teams in the past have been on the wrong end of calls based on "tough" hits on whiny QBs (Peyton, Tom, Matt Ryan).

But this bounty system is borderline thuggery.

[R_Mac_1]

I just read that Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball. Big blow for the Ravens...my sympathies to you Ravens fans.

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[ps3freak18]

I agree with the reasoning of the NFL - a bounty program cannot exist without willing participants (the players). Therefore, the punishment completely, and utterly, is fair.

Can it be shortened? I believe so. But I wouldn't budge on anything than less than 14 games. I'd at least allow him to play twice.

I'm probably one of the first in line for toughness in the league - being a Ravens fan, our teams in the past have been on the wrong end of calls based on "tough" hits on whiny QBs (Peyton, Tom, Matt Ryan).

But this bounty system is borderline thuggery.

Thing about it is I don't disagree with the fact that they should be suspended. They rightfully should be but there is no reason a player should get the same suspension that the head coach gets. That is just ridiculous. I say 8 games at most for Vilma. This is simply a case of Goddell flexing his muscle say "Look what I can do." This has been the theme of his entire time as the commish.

Bounty program aside, you think if a team knows a guy has a bum knee they aren't going to be gunning for that? These guys are pretty much taught to hit a guy as hard as they can from day one. I would also like to know the amount of unsportsmanlike conduct that these guys have had over the past couple years. I very seriously doubt that they are much above average. I'm just saying without any kind of documentation or hard evidence linking their involvement why is Vilma being singled out. There was reports that said he threw money in a pool but is this fact?

I'm with you. These guys need to reprimanded for their participation but a whole season is ridiculous.

[admartian]

Thing about it is I don't disagree with the fact that they should be suspended. They rightfully should be but there is no reason a player should get the same suspension that the head coach gets. That is just ridiculous. I say 8 games at most for Vilma. This is simply a case of Goddell flexing his muscle say "Look what I can do." This has been the theme of his entire time as the commish.

Bounty program aside, you think if a team knows a guy has a bum knee they aren't going to be gunning for that? These guys are pretty much taught to hit a guy as hard as they can from day one. I would also like to know the amount of unsportsmanlike conduct that these guys have had over the past couple years. I very seriously doubt that they are much above average. I'm just saying without any kind of documentation or hard evidence linking their involvement why is Vilma being singled out. There was reports that said he threw money in a pool but is this fact?

I'm with you. These guys need to reprimanded for their participation but a whole season is ridiculous.Yeah maybe a whole season is harsh for a player. Though i don't know the extent of Vilma's involvement apart from being pretty much the 2IC for Gregg Williams.

Yeah I think that's pretty much any sport. But I think if you're that injured player you are aware of the risks anyway - so it's on you. Defenders or other players shouldn't have to make an excuse or skirt around your injury.

But that is far removed from bounty programs, where the aim is to injure.

I can see where the typical meathead NFL fan can confuse that though.

Speaking of meathead fans, Dave Dameshek ( I still don't get why they let fanboys like this guy write on NFL and other sports networks) is already trolling Raven nation in light of the Suggs news.

I effing hate that guys face.

It's a significant blow; but these 'analysts' sometimes really can't wait but to favour an NFL "darling team" (see Pats, Packers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys).

I'd love nothing more than a team like the Ravens, Seahawks or Cardinals (not so well favoured in the league) to win and to win by dynasties.

[The Black Wolf]

I actually agree with the suspensions, though I don't always agree with Roger Gooddell.

We're talking about players intentionally going out to hurt other players, going for an ACL tear and etc. ACL tears are not normal injuries, they're not only very painful but career threatening. Yes, those players and any players who participate in a bounty program should be suspended. Heck, Vilma AND the other players are lucky they didn't make a case to ban them from the NFL for life.

[ps3freak18]

Yeah maybe a whole season is harsh for a player. Though i don't know the extent of Vilma's involvement apart from being pretty much the 2IC for Gregg Williams.

Yeah I think that's pretty much any sport. But I think if you're that injured player you are aware of the risks anyway - so it's on you. Defenders or other players shouldn't have to make an excuse or skirt around your injury.

But that is far removed from bounty programs, where the aim is to injure.

I can see where the typical meathead NFL fan can confuse that though.

Speaking of meathead fans, Dave Dameshek ( I still don't get why they let fanboys like this guy write on NFL and other sports networks) is already trolling Raven nation in light of the Suggs news.

I effing hate that guys face.

It's a significant blow; but these 'analysts' sometimes really can't wait but to favour an NFL "darling team" (see Pats, Packers, Giants, Steelers, Cowboys).

I'd love nothing more than a team like the Ravens, Seahawks or Cardinals (not so well favoured in the league) to win and to win by dynasties.

Couldn't agree with you more there. On the point of aiming to injury. No not every player is out to hurt another player in any possible way. But there are many players that will take aim at an injured appendage to slow them up or tweak the injury. Not saying end their career which bounty programs are essentially trying to do. Especially in a pile up. It's a dirty sport and not all play with the utmost integrity sadly. Just like guys who constantly launch. Which I'm glad the nfl has started to crack down on hard.

[FdMstng99]

Damn you Suggs!!

[The Black Wolf]

They're saying Seau's suicide may have been caused by concussions.

You know what's mind boggling to me? The NFL will not upgrade helmets and equipment. If they would do that, then there would be no more concussions and no more suing the league.

[admartian]

As a massive rugby fan and american football fan alike, I think the main cause for these things is the culture and nature of the hits in the NFL. <br />
<br />
Pads or no pads, you look at how they hit (i.e....

[The Black Wolf]

The Saints STILL have not signed Drew Brees. It looks like they'll be looking at a QB in the 2013 draft.

No wonder players like the Jets Revis and Giants Osi ask for contracts whenever they feel like it. If you play your heart out like Brees did, some teams will leave you out to dry.

[The Black Wolf]

The 2011 New York Giants revealed their Super Bowl rings and they are nice.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/05/16/274511-ny-giants-tom-brady-sucks.jpg

[ps3freak18]

Damn! That is sweet.

[The Black Wolf]

You know what? If the giants win another ring, the franchise would have 5 Lombardi trophies and would be tied with the Cowboys and 49ers for the second most. The Steelers have the most with six.

[RaY_210]

You know what? If the giants win another ring, the franchise would have 5 Lombardi trophies and would be tied with the Cowboys and 49ers for the second most. The Steelers have the most with six.

The Packers are right there too.

[The Black Wolf]

The Packers are right there too.

Sure are, I had completely forgotten about the Packers.

[akhi216]

My Browns look like they can win at least 8 games this season.

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[The Black Wolf]

My Browns look like they can win at least 8 games this season.

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I agree, I am also interested in who wins the QB battle.

[admartian]

Weeden takes it. McCoy is too jittery in the pocket. Unless Weeden completely wees his pants.

[ps3freak18]

My Browns look like they can win at least 8 games this season.

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I would believe they are as well. They are nearing in on a solid team if Weeden starts imo. I think he has what it takes to be a solid QB like Dalton was his first year.

[The Black Wolf]

Well, the NFLPA and the NFL are at it again. This time it's about the salary cap of 2010, and the Cowboys and Redskins.

[The Black Wolf]

Oh my, I can't believe it! The Miami Dolphins are going to be on Hard Knocks!

[FdMstng99]

Oh my, I can't believe it! The Miami Dolphins are going to be on Hard Knocks!


That's going to be hard to watch.

[The Boy From School]

^ You mad? ^ :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/ANdku.gif

[RaY_210]

That hurts my eyes.

[FdMstng99]

^ You mad? ^ :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/ANdku.gif

Yes now I have a headache.

[RaY_210]

Looking like Driver's back. Hell yeah. I think he's got one more good season. Hopefully we can get him one more SB ring and he can go out in style

[admartian]

Yes, we're all 'mad' - having gone mad with seisures at that stupid pic.

[The Black Wolf]

I recently found out one reason why the Bears won't sign Forte long term is because of his knee he injured last year. I know there are some Bears' fans on here so what's going through your heads?

An ACL tear is serious and sometimes athletes don't come back the same after one.

[RaY_210]

I recently found out one reason why the Bears won't sign Forte long term is because of his knee he injured last year. I know there are some Bears' fans on here so what's going through your heads?

An ACL tear is serious and sometimes athletes don't come back the same after one.

Sucks for Forte, and it's a dick move by the Bears. Well I'm actually jumping the gun there. I know they were in talks last year, and I don't know what kind of offers they gave him. So it could be that he was being greedy. But if he wasn't, then my original statement stands.

[DayWalker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lETl9vA9VWw

:lol: luv it.

[FdMstng99]

Sucks for Forte, and it's a dick move by the Bears. Well I'm actually jumping the gun there. I know they were in talks last year, and I don't know what kind of offers they gave him. So it could be that he was being greedy. But if he wasn't, then my original statement stands.

Like with Ray Rice and Forte these guys are the majority of the offenses for their teams. I think they should be paid, not paid like an Adrian Peterson but comparable to what Arian Foster got this year, maybe a little bit more money.

[The Black Wolf]

But would you pay them long term with a major knee injury?

[RaY_210]

Has Rice had a history of injuries? As far as Forte, it's unfortunate he got one at the end of the season, after they were already eliminated from the playoffs (I think) but he really should've had a deal before last season. Now they have a reason not to pay him

[admartian]

Has Rice had a history of injuries? As far as Forte, it's unfortunate he got one at the end of the season, after they were already eliminated from the playoffs (I think) but he really should've had a deal before last season. Now they have a reason not to pay him
Rice doesn't really have an injury history. But at the RB position,the chances are increased.

[FdMstng99]

But would you pay them long term with a major knee injury?

I would pay him but not for what he wants. Put things in his contract for injuries so if he is out with another serious injury his contract won't hurt the team.

[The Black Wolf]

http://www.psu.com/forums/showthread.php/294095-2012-PSU-Pig-Skin-Pick-Em-Sign-Up-Thread!?p=5841723#post5841723

Check it out.

[The Black Wolf]

The Patriots just signed Gronk to a 6 year deal. Great, now my Dolphins and the other teams in the AFC East are going to have to deal with him for 6 more years.

[FdMstng99]

The Patriots just signed Gronk to a 6 year deal. Great, now my Dolphins and the other teams in the AFC East are going to have to deal with him for 6 more years.

I guess the Pats picked their favorite TE, no deal for Hernandez.

[FdMstng99]

Already tired of hearing about Ed Reed not being at mini camp.

[The Black Wolf]

Derek Mason officially retired recently.

You guys may not realize this, but Brett Favre is no longer getting the "itch" anymore.

[FdMstng99]

Derek Mason officially retired recently.

You guys may not realize this, but Brett Favre is no longer getting the "itch" anymore.

Glad Mason retired as a Raven.

Haven't heard Brett Favre's name in awhile!!

[DayWalker]

well Bretts "itch" stems from something else...

[The Black Wolf]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ladainian-tomlinson-retires-sign-deal-san-diego-chargers-061712 <br />
<br />
LT is retiring Monday. It's a shame he never got a Super Bowl ring.

[$Greatness$]

My heart sunk. LT was the man. As much of a beast Vick is, the Chargers won this trade.

[The Black Wolf]

Anyone watching the NFL top 100 players? Calvin Johnson for #1!

[admartian]

Anyone watching the NFL top 100 players? Calvin Johnson for #1!
Wow.

He's the best WR, but I wouldn't put him as the most the best. Rodgers or Brees, then maybe ELi then Brady, then maybe Megatron.

[The Black Wolf]

Well, at least you and I agree that Tom Brady isn't the best. :)

[The Black Wolf]

Megatron is the #3 NFL player of 2012. They revealed the top 10 last night.

Here's a link:
http://www.nfl.com/top100/2012?module=HP11_cp#video=09000d5d82a2ab85

[FdMstng99]

Megatron is the #3 NFL player of 2012. They revealed the top 10 last night.

Here's a link:
http://www.nfl.com/top100/2012?module=HP11_cp#video=09000d5d82a2ab85


Haloti Ngata number 9, I like it!!

[RaY_210]

Megatron is the #3 NFL player of 2012. They revealed the top 10 last night.

Here's a link:
http://www.nfl.com/top100/2012?module=HP11_cp#video=09000d5d82a2ab85

Rodgers #1! Oh yeah!

[The Black Wolf]

Haloti Ngata number 3, I like it!!

What?

[FdMstng99]

What?

OOPS, meant 9. Was looking at it on another screen and looking at the number 3 spot.

[ps3freak18]

I'm shocked Jimmy Graham got so high. I like Graham but I honestly don't think that he has proven himself enough. Same with Rodgers at 1. He's definitely top 5 but I'm still waiting to see how he handles the situation with a mediocre/bad team. It's all been green grass and rainbows for him so far.

[RaY_210]

I'm shocked Jimmy Graham got so high. I like Graham but I honestly don't think that he has proven himself enough. Same with Rodgers at 1. He's definitely top 5 but I'm still waiting to see how he handles the situation with a mediocre/bad team. It's all been green grass and rainbows for him so far.

I love my Packers, but I'm not some blind fanboy. But out of curiosity, who would you have #1?

[ps3freak18]

I would say Drew just because he's proven on a consistent basis that he can work with what he has. Yes he is more interception prone but he makes up for it in the end. Don't get me wrong Rodgers is an amazing QB. I would just say he's slightly under Brady but not by much. As you, this is coming from a Saints fan. Nothing wrong with Rodgers though. I just didn't buy into all the hype that ESPN put into him day one. Rodgers if Rodgers keeps it up I have no quarrel with a number one ranking. I've just always kind of had a bad taste in my mouth about the media always ranking Brees second no matter how much he does on the field.

I've mostly just always looked at the first year Drew almost broke Dan's record and he didn't really get much credit. It took him winning a SB to finally get some recognition. But opinions vary from person to person. Rodgers TD/Int ratio was just unheard of last year though. Props to him.

[The Black Wolf]

Is Tony Romo a better QB than Eli Manning?

[akhi216]

Is Tony Romo a better QB than Eli Manning?

No. Eli Manning doesn't play for the other team in the 4th quarters in the playoffs.

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[ps3freak18]

Hell No! Eli Manning is a Top 5 QB. Romo is lucky to even make Top 10.

[The Black Wolf]

Amani Toomer begs to differ:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/07/amani-toomer-tony-romo-eli-manning/1

[ps3freak18]

Yay! Finally something for Saints fans to be excited about. Drew signed a 5 year deal worth $100M. $60M guaranteed money. Glad he finally got his contract he wanted.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8163701/sources-drew-brees-new-orleans-saints-agree-record-contract

[The Black Wolf]

He definitely deserves it. :D

[EvilJ0k3r]

Yay! Finally something for Saints fans to be excited about. Drew signed a 5 year deal worth $100M. $60M guaranteed money. Glad he finally got his contract he wanted.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8163701/sources-drew-brees-new-orleans-saints-agree-record-contract

Bout time he got this, how long was he on the hunt to get it?

@The Black Wolf: Why even ask, Tony Romo is not anywhere as good as Eli, Like ps3freak said I'd be suprised if Romo can make it in the Top 10 rated QBs. As for Eli, hmm I'd put him in the Top 5 easily, if not the Top 3.

[The Boy From School]

That's ridiculous money.

Good for him.

[ps3freak18]

They've been in negotiations ever since the end of the season so about 4-5 months now.

[EvilJ0k3r]

Man, I'm just glad he finally got it, I know they were talking about it for sometime now.

[RaY_210]

Yay! Finally something for Saints fans to be excited about. Drew signed a 5 year deal worth $100M. $60M guaranteed money. Glad he finally got his contract he wanted.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8163701/sources-drew-brees-new-orleans-saints-agree-record-contract

Good for him. Well deserved. But now that he's got his, gotta see what Rodgers is gonna get.


Bout time he got this, how long was he on the hunt to get it?

@The Black Wolf: Why even ask, Tony Romo is not anywhere as good as Eli, Like ps3freak said I'd be suprised if Romo can make it in the Top 10 rated QBs. As for Eli, hmm I'd put him in the Top 5 easily, if not the Top 3.

I'm sorry, but top 3? I don't think so. Top 5 is debatable. Rodgers and Brees are at the top for sure. As overrated as Brady is, he is still pretty damn good. We'll have to wait to see if big brother Manning can come back and look like himself again. But if he stays healthy and doesn't have too many problems, he is definitely above little brother Manning, and Brady for that matter. From there, him, Rivers, and (as much as I hate him) Roethlisburger can be jumbled somewhere at that next tier. Also, Stafford showed flashes, so as long as he can stay healthy, I think he can be a top 5 QB. Eli is definitely a top 10 QB, but I wouldn't call him top 5, and definitely not top 3

[admartian]

Good for Drew. But I was kinda hoping the Saints go without him for a few games as that organisation has relaly been in chaors for the last few months.


"Let them buirn!" :D


Still, got to see one of my fave QBs get his due.

[ps3freak18]

Good for Drew. But I was kinda hoping the Saints go without him for a few games as that organisation has relaly been in chaors for the last few months.


"Let them buirn!" :D


Still, got to see one of my fave QBs get his due.

Why do you want them to go through even more shit than they are already in? I guess everyone hates them now because of some dick head coach the fucked it all up for everyone. Or did I miss the sarcasm?

[FdMstng99]

Romo has the better stats but Eli has the Super Bowls, so I'd have to go with Eli.

Good for Brees, well deserved.

[$Greatness$]

Tony Romo is a fraud. Period. End of discussion. Cased closed. Forever.

[The Black Wolf]

Bears are going to be trouble this year. They just signed Matt Forte to a big deal.

So they've got Marshall, Forte, maybe Knox, and Bennet on that offense. And then there's that D.

I think they will make a playoff push.

[ps3freak18]

Thank goodness he got his deal. I felt so bad for the guy. But his patience paid off. Grats to the fellow Louisianian.

[RaY_210]

Bears are going to be trouble this year. They just signed Matt Forte to a big deal.

So they've got Marshall, Forte, maybe Knox, and Bennet on that offense. And then there's that D.

I think they will make a playoff push.

He got his deal? Good for him

[DeviousOne]

As a Giants fan i grow tired of hearing how every QB in the NFC east is better or on the same level as eli.

Romo is garbage as a QB great guy tho from what i hear.

Eli is TOP 4 in the league 2 SB wins over Tom Brady and the Pats really? cmon bro *end Rant* lol

Brees got paid finally good for him and that team. Looking forward to another fun season

[ps3freak18]

He got his deal? Good for him

Yep. 4 year $32M.

[admartian]

Congrats on Forte getting the deal done. That just leaves Rice...

[The Black Wolf]

Ray Rice just signed a 5 year/40 million deal with the Ravens.

It was reported on ESPN's NFL Live, which is on RIGHT NOW!

[admartian]

Ray Rice just signed a 5 year/40 million deal with the Ravens.

It was reported on ESPN's NFL Live, which is on RIGHT NOW!
lol as if almost on cue. :lol:

[ps3freak18]

That's great. Two of the leagues top 5 running backs got their deals. Both earned them. Congrats.

[$Greatness$]

Now they gotta lock Joe Flacco up or my days as a Ravens fan are numbered!

[admartian]

Now they gotta lock Joe Flacco up or my days as a Ravens fan are numbered!
Didn't you hear?

Apparently he's overrated and a shit QB. Where I thought being "overrated" actually meant having fans and analysts actually respect you first...

At least if you've been paying attention to NFL.com comments.

[$Greatness$]

Yeah man, it's crazy. I still remember when they were talkin' about who the Ravens were going to draft. Trade up for Ryan or settle for Flacco. I'm so glad the Rams didn't want our deal. I didn't want any parts of Ryan. I remember hearing on the radio that an analysis compared Flacco to Steve Young.

Steve Young is one of my favorites all-time and when that was said, I was hooked on Flacco and watched his tape. Didn't see a lot of the comparison, but I was still hooked. Still remember as if it was yesterday sitting in my mothers hospital room as we watched the draft with me pleading "GET FLACCO".

I'm invested! lol

[The Black Wolf]

Dez Bryant got arrested again:
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/07/16/12/Reports-Cowboys-receiver-Dez-Bryant-arre/msn_landing.html?blockID=761610&feedID=4680

I think this year he's going to have to serve a NFL suspension.

[RaY_210]

Dez Bryant got arrested again:
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/07/16/12/Reports-Cowboys-receiver-Dez-Bryant-arre/msn_landing.html?blockID=761610&feedID=4680

I think this year he's going to have to serve a NFL suspension.

Lol! What a moron. This guy has had problems from the start.

[The Black Wolf]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/17/dallas-cowboys-wide-receiver-dezbryant-booked-for-assaulting-his-mother-report/

The person Dez Bryant assaulted? It was his own mother.

[DeviousOne]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/17/dallas-cowboys-wide-receiver-dezbryant-booked-for-assaulting-his-mother-report/

The person Dez Bryant assaulted? It was his own mother.

really? what a scumbag!

[RaY_210]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/17/dallas-cowboys-wide-receiver-dezbryant-booked-for-assaulting-his-mother-report/

The person Dez Bryant assaulted? It was his own mother.

Wow really? I would never wish for this kind of stuff. But it's done, and I can't help but say haha to the Cowboys. And he had so much potential too. Seems he just can't stay out of trouble for one reason or another.

[DeviousOne]

Wow really? I would never wish for this kind of stuff. But it's done, and I can't help but say haha to the Cowboys. And he had so much potential too. Seems he just can't stay out of trouble for one reason or another.

And they thought they had it bad with TO

[admartian]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/17/dallas-cowboys-wide-receiver-dezbryant-booked-for-assaulting-his-mother-report/

The person Dez Bryant assaulted? It was his own mother.
Trade him to the Ravens and we'll sort him out. We'll give up next year's 7th round pick and the a 5th rounder for the year after. ;)

[ps3freak18]

I knew Dez Bryant was a POS as soon as he came into the NFL. I saw this whole ordeal happening way too many times. Great athlete but poor personality. Now Blackmon on the other hand whole different story...I hope. I know there was the ordeal with the DUI but that isn't really detrimental to someone's image. Doesn't help but its more just frowned upon. I really hope all he stays out of the negative spot light for good. I'm really looking forward to seeing how his career pans out. One of the most exciting receivers coming out of college in a while imo.

[DeviousOne]

Dez bryant came into this league with a sense of entitlement without having proven shit. If every WR was like fitz the nfl and world would be a better place

[akhi216]

I'm curious to see how the newcomers on the Browns fare in preseason. Last season we did horribly, we shouldn't have won the games that we did. I think it was due to McCoy. McCoy trained with Brett Favre in the offseason. I'm sure Favre taught McCoy to throw the ball with a little more oomph. The problem was that due to the lockout, the rest of the offensive players didn't have a chance to practice with him, and as a result Browns players were dropping passes left and right. I don't blame the defense because their jobs were to keep the game as close as they can, we don't with games with defense like the Bears or the Buccs, we win with a combination of decent offense and solid defense. Because the offense kept going 3 and out all the time the defense could never get anything to get hyped about. As of last season we had the youngest defense in the league, I don't think that changed thus hopefully the offense gives the defense an extra incentive to push themselves harder.

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[akhi216]

I like Darren Sproles. Some players are just players, Sproles is a weapon.

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[ps3freak18]

I really liked Sproles when he was a Charger. He was just a hard nose little guy. He isn't afraid to get to at someone. But he can easily torch them in his trail in the process. Then...He went to the...

[admartian]

I'm curious to see how the newcomers on the Browns fare in preseason. Last season we did horribly, we shouldn't have won the games that we did. I think it was due to McCoy. McCoy trained with Brett Favre in the offseason. I'm sure Favre taught McCoy to throw the ball with a little more oomph. The problem was that due to the lockout, the rest of the offensive players didn't have a chance to practice with him, and as a result Browns players were dropping passes left and right. I don't blame the defense because their jobs were to keep the game as close as they can, we don't with games with defense like the Bears or the Buccs, we win with a combination of decent offense and solid defense. Because the offense kept going 3 and out all the time the defense could never get anything to get hyped about. As of last season we had the youngest defense in the league, I don't think that changed thus hopefully the offense gives the defense an extra incentive to push themselves harder.

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QB controversies are never good for any team though.

The best thing the Browns can do is either announce a starter after camp, and stick with him REGARDLESS (apart form injury) throughout the season.

[The Black Wolf]

Weeden vs McCoy is going to be good. People are giving it to Weeden, but they're under estimating McCoy.

[akhi216]

Weeden vs McCoy is going to be good. People are giving it to Weeden, but they're under estimating McCoy.

I agree. I want Weeden to start to get experience, but if the offense gels with McCoy in preseason I'd give him the nod.

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[The Black Wolf]

Titan's WR Britt is in trouble again.

http://profootball.scout.com/2/1203967.html

[ps3freak18]

I love how some NFL players just can't seem to find their way out of trouble all the time. But some you never hear about getting into any trouble. Usually it's repeat offenders in the news.

[$Greatness$]

While I'm not condoning Des Bryant slappin' around a chick, let alone his mother, we don't know all the facts yet. His mother is not squeaky clean herself and has been up to no good in the past. Has been caught lying about stuff per Rotoworld anyway. Regardless of the fact it's still his mother and he is trippin' from that standpoint, but as I told my homegirl who got checked by a few of her previous boyfriends... maybe she's doing something really bad for him to hit her with a Tiger uppercut.

[RaY_210]

While I'm not condoning Des Bryant slappin' around a chick, let alone his mother, we don't know all the facts yet. His mother is not squeaky clean herself and has been up to no good in the past. Has been caught lying about stuff per Rotoworld anyway. Regardless of the fact it's still his mother and he is trippin' from that standpoint, but as I told my homegirl who got checked by a few of her previous boyfriends... maybe she's doing something really bad for him to hit her with a Tiger uppercut.

Regardless, a man should never, ever hit a woman. He's a damn football player FFS! Even if it wasn't his mother, he can easily overpower a woman and doesn't have to resort to violence! That's just pathetic IMO

[DeviousOne]

Regardless, a man should never, ever hit a woman. He's a damn football player FFS! Even if it wasn't his mother, he can easily overpower a woman and doesn't have to resort to violence! That's just pathetic IMO

exactly i dont care how crazy a female is a MAN should NEVER touch a woman. Ive delt with one of the craziest chicks you'll ever meet and she would provoke me to punch her. Its not about being a pussy and not fighting back you got to keep you emotions on check and remember your a man and you can hurt a female especially with Dez hes an athlete he could kill a woman if he starts to reacted to a crazy female.

Im almost 30 and if my mom came up to me and slapped the shit out of me i'll just walk away and would never think to react in a pshyical manner to her.

[$Greatness$]

I agree with you both wholeheartedly. I was just giving the other side as to we don't really know what happened. But he is a lame-ass for smackin' around his own damn mother.

[The Black Wolf]

The Lions' secondary just got worse: they have released a starting CB named Aaron Berry. He got arrested twice this offseason.

[The Black Wolf]

Training Camp, training camp! Tra la la la la! =D

[RaY_210]

Training Camp, training camp! Tra la la la la! =D

Yes! The season is so close!

[DeviousOne]

Cant wait for football season!!! I already got my grill ready...lol

[$Greatness$]

Bryant McKinnie angers my life. Dennis Pitta better be my starting TE. Jai Reid needs to be this beater we traded up for. And Tandon Doss needs to be the guy I preached about since we drafted him.

[FdMstng99]

Bryant McKinnie angers my life. Dennis Pitta better be my starting TE. Jai Reid needs to be this beater we traded up for. And Tandon Doss needs to be the guy I preached about since we drafted him.

I'm a big Doss fan, hope he makes it this year. The guy catches everything, reminds me of a Derrick Mason clone. The younger Mason that is.

[The Black Wolf]

2012 Hard Knocks premired yesterday. Chad Johnson IS being a clown. I agree with the critics, if he had done his antics with the Pats, they'd cut him the next day. I think the Dolphins need to cut him and cut him now, he's going to destroy the locker room. Yes, they don't have a lot of WRs, but it's not worth it. There's a lot of young players on the team and one rotten apple can spoil the whole bunch.

[RaY_210]

2012 Hard Knocks premired yesterday. Chad Johnson IS being a clown. I agree with the critics, if he had done his antics with the Pats, they'd cut him the next day. I think the Dolphins need to cut him and cut him now, he's going to destroy the locker room. Yes, they don't have a lot of WRs, but it's not worth it. There's a lot of young players on the team and one rotten apple can spoil the whole bunch.

I didn't see the episode. But I agree with you. Sometimes the talent is just not worth it, and he is the perfect example of that

[ps3freak18]

Don't know if anyone saw but Brandon Weeden won the QB battle and will be the starter for the Browns this coming season. I'm glad for him and hope he plays above and beyond his expectations and years expected to play. Just a great character.

[admartian]

Not much f a battle when you spend a 1st rounder on a 28 year old, and the incumbent hasn't been favoured that much by the organisation in the first place.

[RaY_210]

Not much f a battle when you spend a 1st rounder on a 28 year old, and the incumbent hasn't been favoured that much by the organisation in the first place.

That's true. It's too bad. Colt seemed like he had potential, but he was just thrown in a bad situation.

[akhi216]

That's true. It's too bad. Colt seemed like he had potential, but he was just thrown in a bad situation.

Too true. James Harrison literally knocked Colt out in retaliation for the Browns injuring the QB for his team (Rape-lisberger) and he hasn't been right since, Peyton Hillis faked the Madden curse, he trained with Brett Favre in the offseason but thanks to the lockout the offense didn't have a chance to practice with him resulting in many dropped balls, and this year Weeden gets drafted...that's too much for one man to overcome.

[imINxile]

Well, preseason is upon us! Can't wait. Green Bay fan here. I guess 4 out of 5 of our starting offensive line won't be playing cuz of injuries..never a good sign.

[DeviousOne]

I was never impressed by colt mccoy cant wait till the G men play the skins and knock RG3 on his ass a couple times

[RaY_210]

Well, preseason is upon us! Can't wait. Green Bay fan here. I guess 4 out of 5 of our starting offensive line won't be playing cuz of injuries..never a good sign.

Hell yeah! Represent! :)
I guess I missed out on some news, but I know Newhouse got that concussion and Sherrod is on the PUP. But who else is out?

[imINxile]

Hell yeah! Represent! :)
I guess I missed out on some news, but I know Newhouse got that concussion and Sherrod is on the PUP. But who else is out?

Ah can't remember my man. Saturday maybe. Guess we'll see tonight.

Good to see another packer backer :)

[RaY_210]

Oh alright. I'm sure it'll be fine. There's another month before the season officially begins. And I'd rather they play it safe than risk even more serious injury. With the exception of Saturday, they've all been together. But he's a great proven veteran, so I don't think he'll have much trouble adjusting.

[DeviousOne]

Green bay...smh Hopefully we'll see ya at lambo again in the playoffs =)

[RaY_210]

Lol Bring it! We're actually gonna have a D this year! And I'm not talking about you :lol:

[DeviousOne]

We got Eli.....nuff said LOL

[imINxile]

We got Eli.....nuff said LOL

Giants fan? Knocked us out last year! Revenge will be ours! Lol..

Ps. Thnx 4 the welcome..

[DeviousOne]

No problem bro!

Eli is the only qb than can go to lambo and win in the playoffs looking forward to the season overall its gonna be fun! Love the football atmosphere while at a bar good times coming soon indeed!

[RaY_210]

We got Eli.....nuff said LOL

We got Rodgers! What's your point? :cool:

[imINxile]

No problem bro!

Eli is the only qb than can go to lambo and win in the playoffs looking forward to the season overall its gonna be fun! Love the football atmosphere while at a bar good times coming soon indeed!

Yeah for sure. My local tavern is 2 blocks away. Packer helmet outside too. Not looking forward to the night games. The party usually lasts too long lol! Good thing I can crawl home from here. Good times ahead indeed.

[Dave]

No problem bro!

Eli is the only qb than can go to lambo and win in the playoffs looking forward to the season overall its gonna be fun! Love the football atmosphere while at a bar good times coming soon indeed!

Pretty sure Michael Vick was the first QB to do that, not Eli.

[DeviousOne]

Pretty sure Michael Vick was the first QB to do that, not Eli.

Well i'll be more specific Eli is the only QB ever to beat them twice @ lambo in the NFC championship

[admartian]

Do we have a PSU FF league yet?

Anyone keen on starting it?

[ps3freak18]

Do we have a PSU FF league yet?

Anyone keen on starting it?

I'm always down for FF.

[The Boy From School]

NFL Pre-season tonight...

http://www.memes.at/faces/aww_yeah.jpg

[Dave]

Well i'll be more specific Eli is the only QB ever to beat them twice @ lambo in the NFC championship

I'm 100% sure that the Giants played the San Francisco 49ers in the NFC Championship game (and were gifted that game as well with a non-touch fumble).

Do you even watch the Giants games or just read the paper on Monday?

[DeviousOne]

I'm 100% sure that the Giants played the San Francisco 49ers in the NFC Championship game (and were gifted that game as well with a non-touch fumble).

Do you even watch the Giants games or just read the paper on Monday?

What does this have to do with the GIANTS beating the PACKERS twice in the NFC championship @ lambo?

Yes and i saw how the 49er's were gifted that game against the Saints the week prior.

Even if he caught that punt doesnt mean they were gonna score on the Giants and had the 49er's wouldve won they wouldve gotten handled by the pats...LOL

The only thing on paper thats relevant to me is the final score of last years superbowl 21 to 17 GIANTS

[Dave]

What does this have to do with the GIANTS beating the PACKERS twice in the NFC championship @ lambo?

Yes and i saw how the 49er's were gifted that game against the Saints the week prior.

Even if he caught that punt doesnt mean they were gonna score on the Giants and had the 49er's wouldve won they wouldve gotten handled by the pats...LOL

The only thing on paper thats relevant to me is the final score of last years superbowl 21 to 17 GIANTS

Please enlighten us as to when Eli Manning beat the Packers twice at Lambo in the NFC Championship game...

[DeviousOne]

Please enlighten us as to when Eli Manning beat the Packers twice at Lambo in the NFC Championship game...

Correction Eli is the only QB beat the packers twice @ lambo in the playoffs. once with brett farve in the NFC championship and last year in the second round..

[Dave]

So I guess the 49ers game has everything to do with your statement then.

[RaY_210]

Lol! Seems you've gotten ahead of yourself eh D? :lol:

[DeviousOne]

What statement did I previously make in reference to the 49er's? I was initially talking about the packers and u brought up the 49er's? My state was clarified in regards to what I meant about eli beating the only QB to beat the packers twice @ lambo in the playoffs.

So what do the 49erks have to do with that statement?

[RaY_210]

You're original statement said they beat the Packers twice in the NFC Championship game. They played the 49ers in the championship game, refuting your original statement

[Dave]

You're original statement said they beat the Packers twice in the NFC Championship game. They played the 49ers in the championship game, refuting your original statement

I thought if I waited long enough it would click for him...guess not.

[DeviousOne]

My initial statement had to do with beating the packers twice @ lambo in the playoffs and eli being the only qb to do so which would be a true statement. At the end of the day who won the superbowl last year?.....

[KillingSpree0]

Bucs looked pretty good today! Can't wait for the actual season, Bucs gunna cause some problems

[DeviousOne]

Bucs looked pretty good today! Can't wait for the actual season, Bucs gunna cause some problems

That division is always interesting....Wouldnt be shocked to see the bucs take it

[KnockoutKO]

Manning is going to take Denver to the SB this year. woot woot! :)

[akhi216]

The Browns need to start Colt, Weeden had a horrible game and Colt performed MUCH better. I'd give Weeden two more chances to redeem himself. Colt played like trade bait.

[The Black Wolf]

The Dolphins lost, but we got to see what Ryan Tannehill is made of: dy-no-mite! (At least in the preseason)

[ps3freak18]

The Dolphins lost, but we got to see what Ryan Tannehill is made of: dy-no-mite! (At least in the preseason)

There lies the problem. Chase Daniels looked great in his preseason starts but not like he is going to get scooped up by another team tomorrow.

[KillingSpree0]

The Dolphins lost, but we got to see what Ryan Tannehill is made of: dy-no-mite! (At least in the preseason)

Against our 3rd string :p

[efs5030]

The Browns need to start Colt, Weeden had a horrible game and Colt performed MUCH better. I'd give Weeden two more chances to redeem himself. Colt played like trade bait.

Colt also played against 2nd stringers.


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[Dave]

Colt also played against 2nd stringers.


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Oh, well then...get him in the Hall straight away...that's a different story!

[efs5030]

Oh, well then...get him in the Hall straight away...that's a different story!

Umm...what? I didn't insinuate he was a hall of famer... I don't really get your sarcasm.


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[$Greatness$]

I can't get into Football this year. It's just 'whatever' to me so far this year. Maybe because I'm locked into my Orioles since we're finally playing meaningful games in August!

Go Joe Flacco, though! Best QB in the league. Yeah I said it. THE LEAGUE

[weskurtz81]

Easy game for the Texans....

[The Black Wolf]

I was right about Chad Johnson. He just got arrested for head butting his wife, and she's not dropping the charges. <br />
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Please go ahead and cut him, please. Whoever decided to sign him should learn a...

[RaY_210]

Damn. Some people just never learn

[The Boy From School]

Lettuce be cereal here... <br />
<br />
Johnson has never been involved in any incidents of this nature in the past. <br />
<br />
I can't recall him ever being arrested nor has he ever shown signs that something like...

[admartian]

I fricking hate the Tannehill overhype.

TBW, are you still starting a fantasy football league?

[The Boy From School]

I fricking hate the Tannehill overhype.

TBW, are you still starting a fantasy football league?

Embrace it it, my man. Tannehill is the truth. :cool:

Are you jelly that Flacco will never amount to anything? :snicker

If y'all make a league, I'm in again. I'll commit myself this time. :D

[admartian]

Embrace it it, my man. Tannehill is the truth. :cool:

Are you jelly that Flacco will never amount to anything? :snicker

If y'all make a league, I'm in again. I'll commit myself this time. :D:lol:

What do you mean? QBs are the most subjectively judged thing in the NFL. Look at Romo, not a big fan of the guy, yet gets chastised so much for not having intangibles but having the stats to back it up.

Conversely, Flacco may not have the stats, but shows you he can take/help lead a team to the playoffs every year, yet gets chastised for not having the stats.

It's all a joke. Flacco and Romo are both good QBs in their own right. Do they have flaws? Absolutely. But all this hate is stupid because of dumb fanboy fans that can't be bothered to think for themselves.



Tannehill on the other hand, has done shit all. And was only hyped by the NFL.com media because they were looking for a QB story in the NFL draft, that wasn't already a foregone conclusion.

He was very lucky to capitalise on that for sure. but he's gonna be Blaine Gabbert Jnr by the end of the season.


Hell even Kyle Boller had good pre-season games.

[akhi216]

I don't understand why people are upset with Chad Johnson. It isn't like he put his *hands* on woman.

/sarcasm

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[Sub-stance1]

I don't understand why people are upset with Chad Johnson. It isn't like he put his *hands* on woman.

/sarcasm

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We don't know the whole story yet but I didn't think Chad was that type of person, but you never know. That woman he married does have a hell of a temper though. The man is usually considered the aggressor in these types of cases.

[The Black Wolf]

I fricking hate the Tannehill overhype.

TBW, are you still starting a fantasy football league?

No, I hate fantasy football. :angry face:

If anything, Tannehill is underhyped. Everyone is already declaring him a bust. However, I bet if the Browns had traded up for him, he wouldn't suddenly be considered a bust. The guy just had a great preseason debut, and yes it's preseason, but give him credit for that. He's also having a great training camp, even after the contract holdout.

I do agree he was a reach at 8th overall, but he's not a super reach like Ted Ginn Jr. He's not 8th overall pick ready coming out of the draft. I still wouldn't call him a bust just yet. If he had went to a horrible team like the Raiders, his chances of being a bust would have been higher. Russell ended up that way.

[admartian]

No, I hate fantasy football. :angry face:

If anything, Tannehill is underhyped. Everyone is already declaring him a bust. However, I bet if the Browns had traded up for him, he wouldn't suddenly be considered a bust. The guy just had a great preseason debut, and yes it's preseason, but give him credit for that. He's also having a great training camp, even after the contract holdout.

I do agree he was a reach at 8th overall, but he's not a super reach like Ted Ginn Jr. He's not 8th overall pick ready coming out of the draft. I still wouldn't call him a bust just yet. If he had went to a horrible team like the Raiders, his chances of being a bust would have been higher. Russell ended up that way.Whether he does ok or not is not the issue with me - but I do think he has been anointed far too early.

Hill probably have a Gabbert type year this year, and if the Dolphins get him more help in WRs) or if Reggie Bush runs like he says he will, then he'll be fine from then on.

[Versus]

Wanna know who DOES deserve hype. Andrew Luck! His Preseason game looked fantastic! He looks better then alot of other QBs who have been in da league alot longer.

Oh and I've always HATED Chad Johnson. He's an asshole. Always been a overly cocky loser who can't back up shit in games. He is derogatory. Now after hearing this, I hope this ass crack never gets back into da league.

EDIT:

Just found out the Dolphins are releasing the Dick Head. Good...

[The Black Wolf]

The Miami Dolphins have officially release Chad Johnson:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000049035/article/chad-johnson-released-by-miami-dolphins-after-arrest

Good call or bad call?

[Versus]

Of course it's a good call. He's an unreliable receiver atm.

[Sub-stance1]

The Miami Dolphins have officially release Chad Johnson:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000049035/article/chad-johnson-released-by-miami-dolphins-after-arrest

Good call or bad call?

oooh, I see divorce in his future. Some other desperate team will pick him up.

[DeviousOne]

Well that was quick....Damn!

Flacco is a Good QB but i dont ever see him being a great QB in this league.

[admartian]

He'll probably end up with he Browns or something.

[akhi216]

The Browns need to get Chad Johnson but I'm sure that'll never happen. Maybe the Cowboys will pick him up since they have a history of signing old thugs that no one wants anymore.

[DeviousOne]

The Browns need to get Chad Johnson but I'm sure that'll never happen. Maybe the Cowboys will pick him up since they have a history of signing old thugs that no one wants anymore.

Im not a cowboys at all but they wouldnt sign him if i had to be realistic about it i would say the titans or broncos maybe the ravens

[$Greatness$]

Well that was quick....Damn!

Flacco is a Good QB but i dont ever see him being a great QB in this league.

You lack vision, son. Flacco is a straight up beast! He might not have 40 TD's and a 5 INT ratio with 4100 yards passing, but he has clutch. Too bad he doesn't have a real WR who can catch the *****football! :(

And Tony Romo is a fraud for the last time! A FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!