Professional Wrestling Thread

[justintheman99]

I hope Orton somehow kills Cena tonight on Raw so we are rid of his face, and is ridiculous spinner belt. (Incase you havn't guessed I am very sick to death of John Cena.)

[RedOrb_Collector]

I've come to terms with the fact that Cenanuff just won't lose............

[justintheman99]

I've come to terms with the fact that Cenanuff just won't lose............

To me it just turns my stomach to see a guy who has been on top for so long staying there. If you take a look at the roster there are so many people who given the right oppurtunity could shine and prosper in the spotlight. With Cena always on top it is really crushing the development of some great up and coming talent. Also on a personal sidenote I find it very disgraceful that the WWE allows Cena to have that spiner belt when so many people fought so hard for it over their careers to have it be manipulated and changed into something that doesn't for one second resemble a championship of any kind.

[Blu-Ray]

I like the Championship belt, it looks cool to me.

[crash323]

I personally liked the Bret Hart WWF belt it looks awesome!!!!!
http://paulvi.louborrelli.com/Photos%2002-03/wwf2.jpg

[Blu-Ray]

The current word backstage in WWE is that Booker will be returning to the company after his sixty day suspension is up. As of right now, he isn't taking any offers for outside bookings as he would be in demand and could get good money from them. This all but confirms both sides are negotiating a new deal.

Thank you.. that's all that I wanted!!

[crash323]

Do you know how many years they've offered Booker (contract wise) to stay with WWE, and also will this deal include Sharmel.

[RedOrb_Collector]

I personally liked the Bret Hart WWF belt it looks awesome!!!!!
http://paulvi.louborrelli.com/Photos%2002-03/wwf2.jpg


Now that is a world title belt. Not that glitter bling spin**** we have now.....

[crash323]

WWE ruined every title belt as of late, I like the WWF belts of the past they've looked way better than the current belts right now.

[Knuckles126]

Yes indeed, that Bret Hart world title belt was truly great to look at. The belt Cena has looks more like a toy made in China... :lol:

He and his belt are truly a disgrace to the business. He will be remembered as one of the worst WWE wrestlers thats ever had the privelage to step into the ring.

[MikeAaronB]

It kinda looked like Vince wasn't suppose to actually make it out, and Triple H was suppose to pull his ass back in. Looked like a premature ending.

[Knuckles126]

I for one am enjoying Carlito getting his ass kicked by the Game... :DD

[RedOrb_Collector]

I for one am enjoying Carlito getting his ass kicked by the Game... :DD

As always The Game bringing the pain is an awesome event.

[justintheman99]

I will be very excited when the time comes for The Game to kick the living heck out of Cena. :)

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

I will be very excited when the time comes for The Game to kick the living heck out of Cena. :)
He tried that already... remember? He made Trips tap at WM22, a WEAK ass ppv.

It kinda looked like Vince wasn't suppose to actually make it out, and Triple H was suppose to pull his ass back in. Looked like a premature ending.
You can tell it was.. The way Trips rushed over the top as Vince kinda slipped. Its unfortunate but at least Vince gave the game an evil look on his way down..

Gets me thinkin about the promo they cut in the back with Vince talking to Coach. They must have had to do that RIGHT after the match or improvise.

[Blu-Ray]

I didn't get to watch raw last night.. have to go to the official site for videos. :(

[RedOrb_Collector]

Awesome, Kennedy returns next week!

[Blu-Ray]

And Hornswoggle is going bye bye. :)

And Hardcore Holly is back? SWEET!

[Maddog911]

Last night was so stupid. Cena should have lost the title. But i know the reason he took so long to come out. He was probably blowing Hornswoggle so hard so he could keep his title. Gay *******

[AJJets107]

Please don't say something like that. There are minors in the forum. Anyway I marked out when Cena was going to give up his championship. Coachman should have done that. So he can be booed by the crowd more. And then next week. Hornswaggle will give Cena his title back. Just to give Coachman some heat from the fans. I guess Raw bookers love face champions. As you can see every champion is either face or tweener.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Hardcore Holly beating up Cody Rhodes was awesome.

[Blu-Ray]

Chris Jericho is known for "stirring the pot" when it comes to playing mind games with fans of the pro wrestling industry. Today, Chris Jericho has done it again.
The Ayatollah of Rock (http://rajah.com/base/node/9310#) 'n Rollah (Chris Jericho) updated his official MySpace page. The new headline on his page says:"I'm coming back!!"
We've reported here for weeks that Chris Jericho has been in talks with WWE about returning to the company. Things heated up after Jericho appeared on Larry King Live with WWE Champion (http://rajah.com/base/node/9310#) Cena following the Benoit family tragedy.
With the debut of the "SAVE_US.222" video last night on RAW and now Jericho's MySpace update, the rumor mill is running rampant with talk that the cryptic video is for Jericho.

Regarding the "SaveUs.222" clip that played on Raw last night, it showed the text "7Oct", which is the day of No Mercy. The clip also showed the text "cd_volume4_1.act". Chris Jericho's theme music is the first track on WWF The Music, Volume 4, which was released in November 1999. -- Chris Jericho's complete book sOMFG!!! It's official!!! THE WWE HAS BEEN SAVED! Now take that championship from SuperCena Jericho.

VIDEO
http://v2.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=102mkqo

[Psycho-S]

It would be good for the WWE for Chris Jericho to come back, but he not getting his hands on the WWE title. I can't even believe how many guys Cena keep beating. HHH, Umaga, Shawn Michaels, Kaili, and more, I really think that Chris could come and win the title from Cena. I don't want wrestling for three months and Cena still have the title. It's Amazing!!!

[RedOrb_Collector]

Yeah thats the same thing I've read.

I suppose soon we will hear....BREAK THE WALLS DOOOOWWWNNNN!!!!

[Blu-Ray]

BREAKK THE WALLLZ DOWNNNN (break da wallz down)

YES! I have become a Jericoholic all over again. (That is the correct term right?)

More in-detail on the video:


- Save_Us.222: I know for a fact I have been seeing signs on RAW that say "Save Us Jericho", maybe WWE picked up on this and ran with it

- CHAMP_HARD: Jericho was a former WWE Hardcore Champion

- SMACK_BROUGHT1: Jericho was on SmackDown and on his debut, he brought the "smack" to The Rock. Also, remember back when Jericho interviewed the #1 Draft Pick from SD!, John Cena. Jericho was also brought over from RAW to SmackDown.

- CD_VOLUME4_1: This might be the most significant clue, as Jericho's theme Break The Walls Down was the first track on the 4th WWE Music CD

- WM00_MATCH and WM_MATCH_TRI: Jericho wrestled Benoit and Angle in the Triple Threat Match at WM

- LIVEWIRE: A song by Jericho's band, Fozzy, also an old show, WWE Livewire

- TALENT_PRE: Obvious, Jericho was a former WWE talent

- BAT_ASS_WEEK: A reference to Jericho on VH1's Best Week Ever? Or a clue at Jericho's obvious humor side

- JVC_FIX: A former WWE sponsor

- PROMO_99: Jericho's WWE debut came in 1999 and he cut that infamous promo on The Rock

- 7_OCT: WWE's No Mercy PPV in October

- RAW_DOUBLE_FIN and RAW_REV: A possible reference to the match against Triple H on RAW which Jericho had won, or so we thought, only to see Triple H void the title change. Also, Jericho and Chyna both won the WWE IC Title on a double pin.

- KOR_Qualify13_60: Jericho qualified for the King of the Ring twice

- r/shara/catman/a_man/cat1: A Lionheart reference, maybe

- share/Insight/library/SGI_bookshelves: Possible reference to Jericho's book

- RAW_REV_MAY2.action: Jericho defeated Benoit for the WWE IC Title on May 2, 2000

- BIG_SHOW: This is the only name that means anything that is in the promo, so WWE could have thrown it in there just to confuse the fans. Also, with the above mentioned CHAMP_HARD, Jericho defeated Big Show for the Hardcore title in 2001.

- RAW_WAR_BUMPER: RAW is WAR was the catchphrase back when Y2J was around, and he often "bumped" the phrase around to say RAW is Jericho

- DISP_CHAMP: A possible reference to Jericho's reign as WWE Undisputed Champion

- giga/flame_5.0.7OCT/action: WWE No Mercy starts at 5:00PM on October 7th

- Also, according to his official website, his book signing tour starts on 10/25, and none of those dates are for Mondays. Also, I'm pretty sure WWE Cyber Sunday is the 222nd WWE PPV, though I could be wrong. I guess it would be possible that the SAVE_US.222 could countdown and change to SAVE_US.22J then end with SAVE_US.Y2J.

If you listen closely on the video, you will definitley hear a voice whisper "I'm Back" and it also sounds like there may be a "Lionheart" whisper in there as well. The video even counts down from 6 to 1, kind of like his old WWE Y2J debut promo did. If that isn't enough to add speculation to the fire, The Allstate Arena in Chicago. where WWE No Mercy will be held this year, is the same place that Jericho made his original debut with WWE.

The whole "Save Us" could trace back to when Jericho came to WWE originally, his whole schtick was that he was here to "Save the WWE" and in many of his old promos, he always refers to being a "saviour" and stuff. In another interesting note, WWE Cyber Sunday is being held in Washington, D.C. which is the last place Jericho wrestled a WWE PPV match.

There's also a slight reference to the Bible verse, Joshua 2, Verse 2 (Joshua 2:2) which is: "The king of Jericho was told, "Look! Some of the Israelites have come here tonight to spy out the land." 3 So the king of Jericho sent this message to Rahab: "Bring out the men who came to you and entered your house, because they have come to spy out the whole land." The Bible verse, Joshua 2, Verse 22 contains no Jericho reference: When they left, they went into the hills and stayed there three days, until the pursuers had searched all along the road and returned without finding them.

Now I realize that all of these clues and guesses are taking a long shot, and some of them may have been thrown in there by WWE just to fool with the fans. Whether it really does mean Jericho's return or not, Cyber Sunday or No Mercy, it is still a great new angle for WWE to come up with to get the fans excited again after the disappointing "Illegitimate Son" storyline.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Jericho got his ass handed to him by Cena.. so whats going to be different this time?

Wow I guess it has been 30 days.. Doesnt seem like its been that long already. It will be good to see some franchise wrestlers like Kennedy back. Also its nice to see Holly back, I guess hes playing the role of "Young" Cody Rhodes mentor. Nice though because he IS a trainer.

[Blu-Ray]

Holly is playing a mentor character to Cody now?

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Sorry to spoil it to you if you havent seen it. But its nothing significant. If/when you see Raw you will see the Rhodes/Holly match. Before the match starts Holly gives him the whole "You want my respect you have to earn it" thing, so I think thats going to be the case.

[Blu-Ray]

I don't care if you spoil it, I already read some stuff on it anyways.
I hope this turns into a small feud because I like both Cody and Holly.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

I think they will have a few weeks of matches and promos with Holly winning the first ones with ease, but then Cody starts to come closer and closer ultimatley beating him. Thus earning his respect.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Jericho got his ass handed to him by Cena.. so whats going to be different this time?



Well they wouldn't goad someone to come back after such a long hiatus only to job to cena.....

At least I hope not...with WWE you never know. :-?

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Yeah but Cena beat him for like.. 3 months straight. How can they put Jericho over after he lost for 3 months to the same guy. Why would he be able to beat him now? What reason would there be. Im thinking maybe a fued with Orton VS Jericho if Orton takes it at No Mercy. After all it is a Last Man Standing match. No DQ's.

[RedOrb_Collector]

I understand your point but the detail of trying to make sense doesn't really matter to the WWE.

I mean one could argue that it doesn't make sense that Shelton who at one point was able to beat a top star like HHH could somehow sink so low as to losing to every half decent midcarder. Ya know?

The only reason WWE has to give is the old "back and better than ever" tagline. It'll work.

[justintheman99]

If Jericho comes back that will give many a great reason to watch the show. The guy is so skilled both on the mic and in the ring he is a true asset to the WWE. I am jusy curious as to who he will feud with when he returns? Both him and HHH could put on a great feud like they have done years back.

[killzone_71]

Randy Orton would be also nice to have a feud with Jericho... too bad he's too busy with his "Band..." :rolleyes:

[DeadlyFire]

Jericho will return by December I believe. Right now he is on a tour for his book being released which ends sometime in November. I can't wait to see him back in the ring.

btw, he is coming back to the WWE. They have already started running promos for him. Take a look at the first of them.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x324op_possible-chris-jericho-return-promo_sport

[justintheman99]

I think he will return earlier than that. It seems unlike WWE to build something up that long. It isn't even October yet so a build up until December seems like a really long time to me. I hope they make this whole build-up very entertaining like they did when he first arrived in the WWE. It was a huge impact!

[Blu-Ray]

I don't understand.... that would make a great storyline... Cena vs Jericho.

[crash323]

I've been pondering and I've made this theory for next week's RAW match between Triple H vs Mr. McMahon

1. Mr. Kennedy might be involved in the match somehow and help Vince McMahon to prove somehow to him that he's the son afterall.

OR

2. Umaga will also return from suspension (I think) and also help Vince, which will cause a feud between Umaga and Triple H for No Mercy until Randy Orton wins the WWE Belt, but it's doubtful because I believe Umaga suspension started a week later than Kennedy so he's due for another week.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

I don't understand.... that would make a great storyline... Cena vs Jericho.
It would if we hadn't seen it before. However since when does WWE care what the fans think.

[Blu-Ray]

I've been pondering and I've made this theory for next week's RAW match between Triple H vs Mr. McMahon

1. Mr. Kennedy might be involved in the match somehow and help Vince McMahon to prove somehow to him that he's the son afterall.

OR

2. Umaga will also return from suspension (I think) and also help Vince, which will cause a feud between Umaga and Triple H for No Mercy until Randy Orton wins the WWE Belt, but it's doubtful because I believe Umaga suspension started a week later than Kennedy so he's due for another week.

I like that one better. It'll seem more dramatic in my opinion.

[Maddog911]

But the Umaga one is more believeable since Vince and Umaga have teamed up before. But im still sticking by my theory of Orton winning the belt and starting a fued with HHH and then HHH will win the belt in the long run. (And then Cena will take it back -_- )

[Blu-Ray]

I don't think that Cena will get it back, the McMahon Storyline is stretching all the way to at least WM24.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Hornswoggle cant be his "son" because that would be the biggest anti-climax ever.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Yeah Vince definately knows that. I'm still pissed that Kennedy's bad luck got him suspended at the worst possible time....he wasn't even able to at least appear at his hometown during RAW.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

To WWE superstars, that is one of the biggest punishments ever..

[Blu-Ray]

Well, atleast we know that next Monday on RAW is going to be of historic proportions. :)

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Why? Whats happening :S

Im totally lost..

[Blu-Ray]

Mr.Kennidy should be coming back either next week, or the week after.


TV Guide's description of Smackdownhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2.gif (http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/1/2/wwenews/6_man_tag_match_on_smackdown_more_save_us_222_clue s.php#)! for this Friday says "The Undertaker returns to seek vengeance after losing to Mark Henry." Obviously incorrect.:lol:
Something I thought that was worthy of being posted.

[crash323]

Possible Ending for Vince/HHH, Kennedy

Source: F4Wonline.com

- A possible outcome in the Vince McMahon vs. Triple H match on RAW next week could see Mr. Kennedy returning to attack Triple H, advancing the illegitimate child storyline from where they left off when Kennedy was suspended.

I was FREAKIN right IN comes KENNEDY, OUT comes HORNSWOGGLE

Chris Jericho Update

Partial source: Wrestling Observer

- With all the talk of Chris Jericho returning to WWE this week, his name is now #13 on Yahoo's Top 20 Searches Movers list.

[Knuckles126]

The question is, will Orton win the title?

Thats the only question...

[Blu-Ray]

Yep, and that ending will be so awesome.. Kennedy is going to be legend.

[Knuckles126]

Has anyone thought of the idea that if Orton wins, the title might have to go under the knife? Think about it, as long as Cena has the title, it's going to look like a 50 Cent knock off belt that spins. Hopefully IF Orton gets the belt, he can return it to glory and restore it's rightful image.

[Blu-Ray]

I think that the WWE title is going to go to Kennedy. He is Vince's "son", so has some control over the WWE. It could be like the corporate ministry when they someone "ran" the WWF.

[crash323]

I think that the WWE title is going to go to Kennedy. He is Vince's "son", so has some control over the WWE. It could be like the corporate ministry when they someone "ran" the WWF.

I could of NEVER said it better, Kennedy will be champ by Royal Rumble which will cause Orton (If he wins in No Mercy) to LOSE to Kennedy and start a long feud with Triple H that will lead to WRESTLEMANIA, but by the time being who is going to feud with Triple H as of now, is it UMAGA.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Personally Crash I don't believe much of what I read anymore...the wording leads me to believe that they are guessing (the same guess as us) on the kennedy return angle...But I do hope it is right.

[crash323]

Your right there Red Orb, but WWE better make this happen lately WWE fans have been dissapointed at where there not watching there programming anymore VINCE will make this happen sooner than later. ( I HOPE )

[RedOrb_Collector]

So attitude era is gone...I guess we should call this the 'I hope Era.'

fitting.

[crash323]

We could call it whatever we want, the fact is WWE could never ignore the FANS which made WWE what it is today, Sports Entertainment.

[Blu-Ray]

This is the Pre-Attitude era, because the second one is coming.

[RedOrb_Collector]

I like your optimism but....meh...hopefully.

[MarKoNiO]

This is the Pre-Attitude era, because the second one is coming.

I don't think so buddy.....it's like Vince doesn’t care anymore, he is a billionaire now and just wants to play it "safe".

Every show Cena is boooed the hell out of him, does this make Vince take the championship away from him? Hell no, he only cares about the money now, and how many shirts Cena can sell to kids.

No more cruiserweights high flying matches, no hardcore matches, just the same old **** every time.

Attitude era is dead.

I hope I am wrong, but I highly doubt it.

Cheers.

[crash323]

Yeah but the Question is When? When Kennedy wins the Belt or When Chris Jericho comes back and brings back the WWE to the old Attitude Era, man that era was so fun and entertaining to watch.

[RedOrb_Collector]

kennedy v jericho would be awesome....i seriously wouldn't know who to cheer for.

[crash323]

HARD TO CHOOSE, but I'll go for Kennedy, simply put he's the future (besides Orton) of the WWE unlike Cena.

[Blu-Ray]

I would w0ot for Kennedy as well..
And, the Attitude Era v2 is coming in the future.. did anyone hear about USA forcing Vince to be more hardcore for ratings?

[AJJets107]

Vince doesn't even know what hardcore is. The old ECW was more hardcore and better than WWE. ECW actually gave wrestlers a chance. They let the wrestlers do what they wanted to do there. There was no creative team. Paul Heyman just told them the results and some ideas for storylines. The wrestlers actually made some storylines and feuds. If you call that steel cage match hardcore. You should see how E-C-Dub was like.

[Blu-Ray]

OMG! Edge will be back either before or during Suvivor Series! Proof? Right here! It's in the god**** pudding!

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/specials/series.jpg

[AJJets107]

I wouldn't hype up for that. The Great American Bash had Rey Rey but he wasn't there.

[Maddog911]

Pretty sweet Edge is coming back. But in a Jericho vs Kennedy match im going to have to go with Jericho because well, hes Chris Jericho. I really hope Cena frickin loses and Orton changes the belt back to normal when Eddie had it

[Blu-Ray]

When Eddie had the belt... everything was just better in the WWE in my opinion. :(

[Knuckles126]

Stone Cold Steve Austin IS the attitude era. Without him, there is no attitude in the WWE. Period. ;)

[justintheman99]

Stone Cold Steve Austin IS the attitude era. Without him, there is no attitude in the WWE. Period. ;)

Perhaps that may be true but lets not forget to give some credit to D-X. They were the next big thing in line with Austin and were responsible for some pretty great moments in the WWE.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Are you talking about Degeneration-X or WWD-X

[RedOrb_Collector]

Chuck Palumbo is pretty cool. I wonder when He'll stop squashing Kenny Dykstra and move on to actual competitors.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Never because WWE is a joke rehiring old talent

[crash323]

Cena/Henry, Taker/Umaga? Big Roster Change

Source: Wrestling Observer

- There's talk of doing an Undertaker vs. Umaga feud which would see Umaga traded over to SmackDown. Vince himself is interested in this feud as well. If Umaga were to come over to SD, look for Mark Henry to make his way to RAW to feud with John Cena, since RAW is so low on heels. Henry's last match on SmackDown was probably the loss to The Undertaker this past week. Umaga's feud with Triple H should be ending soon as well.


SAVEUS_222 Says "I'm Back", More Jericho Clues

I have been looking frame by frame at the recent saveus_222 video from RAW this past week and I find it interesting that if you listen closely near the end, you can hear a faint "I'm Back." At the beginning, it says 7 OCT, the same day of No Mercy. In one frame, it says catman (perhaps a lion). It also says bookshelves, maybe a hint for Jericho's new book. Another interesting note is, if you play it back and listen carefully, you can hear the "Come On" like in Chris Jericho's entrance music. [Thanks to Robbie]


NO MERCY seems to soon to be TRUE, well I guess we all have to see to BELIEVE.

[Maddog911]

I would hate if Umaga and Mark Henry were traded to the other brands. I hate Mark Henry and i love Umaga. That would be definate bull**** in my book because i dont watch SD!

[Blu-Ray]

I love SD! That would be an awesome feud to watch.

[justintheman99]

If Henry came over to Raw that would suck as that is the show I always watch. To me Henry is pure worthless while Umaga on the other hand is a very interesting character with great in ring capabilities. If it happened Smackdown would win in the end as they would be recieving a much better overall talent. As for Jericho I really hope he does come back this Sunday for the WWE's sake. However, a part of me wishes they would build it up much more before his return.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

RAW has plenty of heels. Vince is just stupid and doesnt push half of them

-Kennedy
-Carlito
-Randy Orton
-King Booker
-Umaga

ALL of whom I would say are main event material and ALL of whom I'd say could throw great matches.

[RedOrb_Collector]

*sigh* Kennedy doesn't seem to be part of the storyline anymore......and he's finally done it. He's jobbed to Cena for his first time. *rolls eyes*

[Blu-Ray]

Geez, he returned last night, and he wasn't the child. OMFG.

[AJJets107]

Cena is winning the title at No Mercy. Orton attacked Cena last night. So Cena is going to win at No Mercy. Don't believe me remember when Orton RKOed Cena two times the Raw before the PPV. He lost. I am 90% there booking Orton to lose at No Mercy. I think they want this feud to continue.

Just wait maybe there going to wait. If it happens it will go like this. Triple H says he messed up the DNA. And Kennedy is Hornswaggle brother.

[CrimsonThunder]

Cena is winning the title at No Mercy. Orton attacked Cena last night. So Cena is going to win at No Mercy. Don't believe me remember when Orton RKOed Cena two times the Raw before the PPV. He lost. I am 90% there booking Orton to lose at No Mercy. I think they want this feud to continue.

For some reason I don't think thats how it works. :p

I hope Cena loses so he can take time off to do his **** movie. >_>

Anyways, Y2J coming back at No Mercy is sweet, theres rumors going around that Michaels will be coming back too.

[justintheman99]

Everybody must job to John Cena! I believe last night was a punishment for Kennedy. He had the oppurtunity to run with a main event push but now since the suspension I believe last night was a message to him and it made me sick to my stomach. If Cena stays champ any longer I will almost boycott the entire WWE. SICKENING!

[AJJets107]

I already told myself that if Cena wins the title at No Mercy. I will stop watching Raw. Until he loses that title.

[killzone_71]

Everybody must job to John Cena! I believe last night was a punishment for Kennedy. He had the oppurtunity to run with a main event push but now since the suspension I believe last night was a message to him and it made me sick to my stomach. If Cena stays champ any longer I will almost boycott the entire WWE. SICKENING!

If you do that, then im gonna be right behind you on that my friend... ;)

[justintheman99]

I stated in the Anger/Venting thread that if Cena keeps thats title for another month I will stick a fork into my eye and repeatedly punch myself in the privates until I vomit.

[Blu-Ray]

:lol:

Me too.
But this is good news ironically:



Source: PWInsider.com
WWE is proceeding this morning as if WWE Champion John Cena does indeed have a torn right pectoral muscle that he suffered during his match last night on RAW against the returning Ken Kennedy. Cena is scheduled to meet with Dr. James Andrews today in Birmingham, Alabama for a full medical checkup to determine the exact severity of the injury. WWE will adjust the No Mercy PPV depending on his medical status.
There is a lot of concern inside the WWE locker room as if his pectoral muscle is indeed torn; normal rehabilitation time is four months. Cena is considered one of the top guys in the company and a severe injury such as this is a huge blow to WWE. For those that do not remember, Edge suffered a torn left pectoral muscle back in July and that is why he has been out of action.



Looks like he isn;t going to be the champion for much longer!! :)

[MarKoNiO]

Similar thing happened before Cena's LMS match vs Umaga at the Royal Rumble, WWE claimed Cena was injured some days before just to spread FUD and make Cena appear like a hero o something.
This injure could be fake too, but I hope it is real and he is out for many months.

[RedOrb_Collector]

I don't want the injury to be real. One because Cena as a person is supposedly a cool guy, and because if he's injured bad that might mean he'll relinquish the title and not lose it....I'd rather he lose the belt in proper fashion.

edit: yep....its official. Cena is out for 6-8 months just look at WWE.com. Get ready for a replacement champion this sunday......this sucks....

[Blu-Ray]

He is a good guy, but i just want that belt on someone elses waist.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS yESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

OMFG HAPPY F'IN DAY1!!!!!!!!

THE REIGN OF "DOOM" IS OVER2

[RedOrb_Collector]

I didnt want it to end like this but a new champion will be a good thing I guess.

Isn't kinda funny that Kennedy started the match sayin he would be the one to take down the 'top dog'
and he it ended up happening during their match? I believe when Cena did the hip toss, or whatever the move was, he landed on Kennedy's elbow. That might have done it.

[MarKoNiO]

This injure could be fake too, but I hope it is real and he is out for many months.

YES!!!111one!111!!uno1!11

Cena is out baby :D, I am very happy, don't get me wrong I hope the guy recovers and all, but the WWE desperately needed a new champ.

Kennedy or Orton, one of them will be the next champ, or maybe Chirs Jerico :mrgreen:?

Edge will be back at Survivor Series :), I hope he stars a long feud with the Undertaker then.

Cheers.

[CrimsonThunder]

I'm happy with the news also. :D I suspect Orton will be the new champion.

[Blu-Ray]

I will change the title of the thread for this. :)

[justintheman99]

I cant believe I am excited for the fact someone is injured. It is rather silly that this was simply the only way he would lose that title. Also what I suspect now is that when he does return he will of course win it right back and hold it for yet another year because he never did technically "lose" it. Oh well finally someone else will get a shot at being on top for once, too bad it had to happen this way, but at the same time I am just glad the reign is finally over!

[RedOrb_Collector]

I hope the ratings will go up after a new champion is crowned.

[justintheman99]

No doubt they will. I am certain that a huge percentage of WWE fans are sick and tired of seeing Cena with that ridiculous spinner belt. Also I am hoping that the new champ goes back to using the old style belt.

[RedOrb_Collector]

The reason I asked this is because if this has a beneficial impact then the WWE may not be so quick to give the title right back to Cena.

[justintheman99]

The reason I asked this is because if this has a beneficial impact then the WWE may not be so quick to give the title right back to Cena.

I hope that happens because if not I will be without an eye and sore for quite some time. :lol:

[scubaculture]

Wishing injury on someone, or celebrating an injury is never a good thing

That said I am quite happy there will be a change, now when is HHH getting another shot!

[crash323]

WWE Title Plans, Triple H's Chase, Kennedy, No Mercy

Source: F4Wonline.com

- Randy Orton had been scheduled to take the WWE Title at No Mercy this weekend, and still may get it, but things could change with the news of John Cena going down until 2008.

The outcome of the match will depends a lot on what the planned RAW main event is for WrestleMania 24. Original plans saw Triple H vs. Kennedy for the WWE Title in the illegitimate child storyline, but that may be (or maybe not) thrown out the window at this point. WWE could put the title on Kennedy now, based on the fact that he was "responsible" for Cena's injury, and begin Triple H's chase for the title.

Their are a number of routes WWE can go with the WWE Title and the match at No Mercy this weekend, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

BOTH Kennedy and Orton are championship caliber athletes, it's a really hard decision for Vince to make. Could it be JERICHO also he's rumored to debut at No Mercy.

[justintheman99]

Personally I think WWE should really build up Kennedy more before giving him the title. Have him involved in a good feud for awhile in order to really build it up first. It just wouldn't look right for him to win the title based on he fact he tapped to Cena so easily this past monday on Raw.

[Maddog911]

Its not that i liked Cena as champion. But i will be even more excited that the frickin spinner belt is going to be gone for up to a year. I hate that piece of crap

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Im thinking it might be a WWE championship Open. And the "last" two will be Kennedy and Orton, but surprise.. JERICHO!

[AJJets107]

It's sad that some people are happy Cena is injured.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Not really... He has put on boring matches for 3 years straight.

[justintheman99]

Honestly I think the WWE will be more exciting without him. His matches can be so predictable it isn't funny. Seems like the guy knows roughly 6 moves in his whole arsenal. I will be so excited to watch Raw next week knowing Cena is gone and that some new storylines will soon begin. :)

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Im not glad hes hurt or anything, Im glad that he doesnt have the belt. Its embarassing having him as a champion.

[AJJets107]

It looks like Chris Jericho is now in the WWE. He signed a contract with him. I still think the promo they showed had nothing to do with him.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

It looks like Chris Jericho is now in the WWE. He signed a contract with him. I still think the promo they showed had nothing to do with him.
How can you possibly say that. It had everything to do with him.

[AJJets107]

There has been rumors about WCW coming back so it might be that. You never know what it is. TNA is doing way better than WWE is doing at the moment.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Yes there were rumors about bringing WCW back but with the success of the ECW PPV's Vince brought back ECW as mid-card training grounds. And honestly, it was a good idea. It lets the up and comers get some good TV time to develope a character properly.

AND OMFG TNA is amazing right now. They know how to do 2 hours right.

[RedOrb_Collector]

^ I agree, I just saw TNA and it seems to have improved tremendously somehow. TNA was great tonight.

[AJJets107]

The last two weeks were great. The ratings weren't good last week. I feel sorry for whoever missed it. Last week I really enjoyed the womens match. I thought it was going to be a bathroom break like WWEs but it wasn't. Hopefully TNA will pick it up. Maybe they could go live. But the ratings will need to be up.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

The matches tonight were awesome. The guys had so much energy and they were really playing off the crowd. The Gauntlet puts any royal rumble to shame.

[justintheman99]

I hope TNA really becomes a force to be reckoned with. If WWE can get some severe competition from them for the top dog spot in profesional wrestling we the wrestling fans will indeed soak up the benefits of it. We all know that competition forces both sides to bring out the best they can produce. :wink:

[Blu-Ray]

I agree, the WWE will be forced to give us a better product. That's why I say that the Attitude Era 2.0 is coming soon - TNA is getting better.

[Maddog911]

I told you guys that TNA was going to be so much better when they switch to the 2-hour block
But this Sunday better be good i swear. Im getting tired of ****ty PPV's.

[AJJets107]

Vince always love bringing stuff back from the dead. Vince doesn't need to bring back the Attitude Era back. The bookers should actually make good storyline and fueds. What do we see? Batista facing The Great Khali, Edge, and The Undertaker every PPV even though he loses everytime. Cena having a title reign over 13 months. The ideal title reign should last 3-6 months. Maybe even longer. What storyline do we see? A wedding. :roll: We also see the Vince died angle. Which was a waste. TNA>WWE.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Man I can't wait for No Mercy tonight! Jericho will probably come back and become champ!

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Im not going to watch it but I will be going to WWE.com and checking the results.

[AJJets107]

Great we have Triple H as our champion. I wonder why he wins so many championships.


Edit:Holy **** Randy Orton is our new ****ing champion. *Brings out the beers*

[Maddog911]

That was the best PPV the WWE has had in a long fricken time. Well the best part of the night was NOT having John Cena there to ruin it and also they welded the WWE symbol on the belt so it cant spin. I was so happy. I still like the old one better.

But tonight was awesome. London, Kendrick, and Hardy DO IT AGAIN. All of them are amazing. That match was sweet and it was so fast-paced. There were no slow parts at all. I think it was too fast for even the cameramen to catch it all. I love HHH but ive gotta give it up to Randy Orton for winning the Last man standing. Every match Triple H was in was incredible. It takes a true athlete and wrestler to do 3 matches in one night. Cena could have never of done that.

The Womens match sucked. There were so many botches. The womens match should be the first match of every PPV just to get it over with cuz they always suck.

The Punjabi Prison match was actually pretty good. Batista won in a sweet way by jumping from cage to cage. Batista is really the only wrestler that can make the Great Khali look good and have a good match.

I was dissapointed that Y2J didnt appear. It was funny because at the beginning of the PPV Vince and Regal came out to the ring and the belt was underneath a red blanket on a stand and Vince said "Im going to give all you fans what you want right now" And all the fans started chanting Y2J, Y2J, Y2J!!!!!! And then Vince says "Well im not going to give you that" with a smirk on his face. I smiled. Also they didnt even have Ron Simmons there. I was waiting for him to appear but he never did

Overall it was a great PPV

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

AAJETS!!! *BEER BASH*!!!

Its about time Randy gets it. Maybe he will show some more responsibility.

[RedOrb_Collector]

I can't wait to see it later on. Triple H became 11 time champ after all! lol. And Randy became a 3 time world champ! Awesome! lol

[Blu-Ray]

:lol:

Trips had 3 matches. That sucked for him!

John Cena: OWWW, I'm injured!
HHH: ****, Now I have to do 3 matches at the next PPV
John Cena: OWNED!!!1

[AJJets107]

I guess because what Kurt Angle did Triple H thought he could do that.

[Blu-Ray]

Jericho was suppose to make an appearence, but Vince thought it was too soon. Expect to see Jericho at Cyber Sunday. :)

[crash323]

AWESOME Last Man Standing Match WoW!!!, I though easily Randy Orton couldn't get up for the 10 count from that chair shot in the Steel steps, MATCH of the YEAR in my opinion.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

AWESOME Last Man Standing Match WoW!!!, I though easily Randy Orton couldn't get up for the 10 count from that chair shot in the Steel steps, MATCH of the YEAR in my opinion.
Hold on there sonny, we'll have to wait to see what TNA has to offer at Bound For Glory.. after all it is their biggest PPV, and its in Atlanta, so that means they will want to impress. I know **** well that TNA have had some amazing matches at Bound For Glory.

[AJJets107]

There are some reports that Undertaker is possibly injured again.

Edit: Oh my ****ing god. HBK is back.

*Brings out the beers again*

[MarKoNiO]

This was the second best PPV of the year after WM23, they just nailed it.

HHH's and Orton's perfonmance was outstanding, the LMS standing match was so exciting.
Kennedy pwned that guy so badly with his finisher, and Batista retaining the WHC is fine, he will lose it to Edge at Survivor Series.

HBK is back ? nice :D

[Blu-Ray]

HBK is back! Yes!

But I still hope those return videos are for Jericho.

Match of the year - Taker vs Batista. :)

[justintheman99]

It was nice to see HBK back last night. However there was something about Raw last night that really bothered me. Is it just me or are they turning Kennedy into a pure mid-carder? I thought this guy was suppose to get a huge push with the whole illegitimate child thing? Now it seems they bring him out every week just to lose to someone. *sigh* I have such high hopes for him but it seems like he is being ignored. Perhaps they are punishing him in some shape or form.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

There are some reports that Undertaker is possibly injured again.

Edit: Oh my ****ing god. HBK is back.

*Brings out the beers again*
OMFG! STFUppercut!!! HES BACK!@!!... *5 beers*

I almost **** myself when I heard it. "I think im cute, I know i'm sexy..."

[justintheman99]

With all the star power Raw has and is coming back (Jeicho, Lashley) I have to be somewhat nervous as to how they will find place/storylines for all of them.

[RedOrb_Collector]

It was nice to see HBK back last night. However there was something about Raw last night that really bothered me. Is it just me or are they turning Kennedy into a pure mid-carder? I thought this guy was suppose to get a huge push with the whole illegitimate child thing? Now it seems they bring him out every week just to lose to someone. *sigh* I have such high hopes for him but it seems like he is being ignored. Perhaps they are punishing him in some shape or form.

I agree on the Kennedy part I have the same feeling, but I reasoned that they are going to start a feud with Hardy and Kennedy for the IC title. They are hinting strongly at it. That would be a good way to start a push.

[MarKoNiO]

That would be a de push imo, Kennedy was supposed to be the champion before he was injured.

Poor guy, another one to the list of "good but ignored".

- Carlito
- Shelton
- Kennedy

[RedOrb_Collector]

Man Kennedy should have been kept on Smackdown and then drafted after he got the gold there....which he was going to do before the injury....no Edge vs Kennedy storyline makes me a sad camper. :(

[crash323]

I AGREE, some switches did not make sense at all, Bobby should of stayed in ECW and start a feud with CM PUNK or BIG DADDY V, and Kennedy would of made a good feud with newly drafted Edge and other people like Undertaker, Rey Mysterio etc.

[justintheman99]

To me they are moving way to much star power to Raw and just totaly ignoring Smackdown and ECW for pure main eventers. They have so many guys on the Raw roster right now that are main eventers some already are becoming ignored.

Guys I want to see pushed!

-KENNEDY!!!!!
-Shelton
-Carlito


The best thing for them to do right now is put Lashley back in ECW as they are true in desperate need of some more star power. With the return of HBK and Jericho it only makes sense to free up some space on the Raw roster.

Also I truly hope to see the development of the Kenedy angle with McMahon but with each passing day it looks more and more likely it is becoming a thing of the past.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Kennedy better take that **** IC title from Hardy soon. It will be the start of something at least.

[AJJets107]

I told my friends Kennedy is going to get buried in Raw. They told me yeah right. What happens he jobs to Hardy and Cena. Kennedy, King Booker both got buried. Guess what Vince thinks star power raises ratings. It's ****ing booking.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Carlito and Shelton dont deserve the belt, they havent worked hard enough to get it.

Kennedy though, if he gets pushd properly, get the IC belt, get involved in a main event storyline and move up the ranks. He puts his heart into what he does unlike Shelton. However Carlito is turning his attitude around it seems.

[AJJets107]

When does Carlito and Shelton Benjamin get a chance. Vince and the booking team doesn't even book them. Look at some of Sheltons ladder matches. They are amazing. Shelton Benjamin is underrated.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

He may be under-rated but he doesnt care enough anymore. Back in his prime he should have been pushed.. and he did, he got pushed aside.

[AJJets107]

There is some news that Rey Mysterio might be heading to Raw. How ****ing sorry is the Raw booking team. They need to notice that they have Orton, Kennedy, HHH, HKB, Y2J, countless of other star power. This proves they need star power to improve the ratings. This will most likely be the last time I will watch WWE for the last time. I spend two hours watching Raw. For what a bunch of Hornswoggle promos and squash matches. TNA will rule WWE one day. You can count on it.

Johnny Jeter will be heading to ECW as a regular. If you don't know who this is. He is part of the Sprit Squad. But he won't be in that gimmick.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Its because Vince doesnt care about Smackdown.

TNA will reign supreme..

[UnReaL]

Its because Vince doesnt care about Smackdown.

TNA will reign supreme..

Not by a long shot. They are going down the WCW road. Take in all washed up WWE talent, and over shawdow their own wrestlers.

Anyone else get the feeling that Randy Orton should NOT be champion. Watching RAW, it seemed that Umaga SHOULD be champ. Orton showed nothing to me. We'll see if he can step up, but I'm in favor of Umaga right now.

[MarKoNiO]

I voted for Kennedy and Morrison for Cyber Sunday.

HBK or Hardy will win tho, kids always vote for the face.

I hope Morrison defeats the punk, Morrison is more talented in the ring and with the mic imo.

Cheers.

[justintheman99]

I voted for Kennedy and I must say I voted way more than just one time. :wink:

[Maddog911]

It was nice to see HBK back last night. However there was something about Raw last night that really bothered me. Is it just me or are they turning Kennedy into a pure mid-carder? I thought this guy was suppose to get a huge push with the whole illegitimate child thing? Now it seems they bring him out every week just to lose to someone. *sigh* I have such high hopes for him but it seems like he is being ignored. Perhaps they are punishing him in some shape or form.
I knew that Kennedy wasnt going to get the push from the illegitimate son storyline. Once Hornswaggle was named the son they werent going to change it. Kennedy put this onto himself with that suspension. Kennedy is fine as a mid-carder and i wouldnt mind him as a the Intercontinental Champion. But i like Jeff Hardy better:-D


I AGREE, some switches did not make sense at all, Bobby should of stayed in ECW and start a feud with CM PUNK or BIG DADDY V, and Kennedy would of made a good feud with newly drafted Edge and other people like Undertaker, Rey Mysterio etc.
Yea Lashley should've stayed on ECW. RAW has too many stars.



Not by a long shot. They are going down the WCW road. Take in all washed up WWE talent, and over shawdow their own wrestlers.

Anyone else get the feeling that Randy Orton should NOT be champion. Watching RAW, it seemed that Umaga SHOULD be champ. Orton showed nothing to me. We'll see if he can step up, but I'm in favor of Umaga right now.
I love Umaga but i think Orton is a better champion, he makes the perfect heel. But why is Kennedy on the ballot for the Randy Orton match and not Triple H? But i voted for Morrison and HBK

[AJJets107]

Its because Vince doesnt care about Smackdown.

TNA will reign supreme..

Not by a long shot. They are going down the WCW road. Take in all washed up WWE talent, and over shawdow their own wrestlers.


TNA has something WWE hasn't had. Good booking. They don't have your average diva match. Doesn't WWE take people from TNA/ROH and indies? I think so.



Yea Lashley should've stayed on ECW. RAW has too many stars.
No, Lashley should stay in Raw. His first ECW match and he wins a a championship. His push was like Lesnar's push. I am glad he isn't in ECW.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Maddog. Kennedy and Jeff are in the poll because they expect HBK to easily get more votes than those two. Its sorta rigged in that sense.

[AJJets107]

Cyber Sunday is always rigged. If Jeff Hardy gets most of the votes they'll still announce HBK. Either that or they put wrestlers that fans don't really no. Interactive PPV my a**.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Im pretty sure the fans dont have anything to do with it. It just gets more hits on their website.

[dc writer]

Exactly, no wonder they don't show the results of the polls.

Even the choices are crap

[justintheman99]

You ever notice how they always try to influence the votes? Like how HBK returned and immediately turned his attention to Randy Orton? They always try their hardest to influence the votes. It is tough to say if WWE ignores the votes or not though, but I wouldn't run it by them.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Yeah Cyber Sunday definitely isn't as interactive as they say it is.

I just hope that Kennedy beats the crap out of Hardy at Cyber Sunday since they will both not win the poll and most likely be pitted against each other.

[Knuckles126]

Can someone please get me up to speed here?

Questions:

1. How did Cena lose the title?
2. How did Triple H become the champ temporarily?
3. How did Orton become the new champ?
4. What the hell happened to Cena?

:?

[AJJets107]

1.Injury
2.Orton had the title given by Vince.
3.Triple H beat him and lost in the LMS.
4. Kennedy injured him in the match.

[Blu-Ray]

I haven't been here in a while, so I have a lot to say.

First off, about Kennedy
- Why the hell is this guy a mid-carder!! (no comments)

- If the WWE was smart, they would just kill off ECW. I am tired of watching it; it's so boring. It's not even extreme. Waste of time.

- What happened to Smackdown! 3 years ago, I liked SD! way more than I even cared about RAW. It seems as if they don't even care about it anymore.

- WHERE ARE THE FACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back in the glory days of the WWE, you have groups like DX and The Ministry. Heck, even JBL's small group was fine. AND EVOLUTION!!

- No immediate push for Undertaker? O yeah, and Trips wins the title. :roll: That may have been a biased comment due to the fact that I am the biggest Undertaker fan ever, but he was planned to have the WHC for a very LONG time. Geez, there isn't even a major champion feud with him.

The WWE should do what TNA is doing - more "OMFG" moves, and more feuds.

Kennedy / Undertaker fued was awesome, and so was Batista and Undertaker. Has Vince learned a **** thing yet!

[AJJets107]

I haven't been here in a while, so I have a lot to say.

First off, about Kennedy
- Why the hell is this guy a mid-carder!! (no comments)

- If the WWE was smart, they would just kill off ECW. I am tired of watching it; it's so boring. It's not even extreme. Waste of time.

- What happened to Smackdown! 3 years ago, I liked SD! way more than I even cared about RAW. It seems as if they don't even care about it anymore.

- WHERE ARE THE FACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back in the glory days of the WWE, you have groups like DX and The Ministry. Heck, even JBL's small group was fine. AND EVOLUTION!!

- No immediate push for Undertaker? O yeah, and Trips wins the title. :roll: That may have been a biased comment due to the fact that I am the biggest Undertaker fan ever, but he was planned to have the WHC for a very LONG time. Geez, there isn't even a major champion feud with him.

The WWE should do what TNA is doing - more "OMFG" moves, and more feuds.

Kennedy / Undertaker fued was awesome, and so was Batista and Undertaker. Has Vince learned a **** thing yet!
I told people Kennedy was going to be a jobber once he set foot on Raw. No one listened to me.

ECW wasn't meant to be extreme. As a original ECW fan. I actually enjoy it why? It actually has wrestling unlike the other shows. It's a building ground for wrestlers. Like OVW.

Smackdown! is just like ECW. They train the wrestlers so they could go to Raw. If Raw has some unused wrestlers they would bring it to SD/ECW.

There was the New Hart Foundation. But it was scrapped sadly.

Triple H and Undertaker should retire within the next two years. Why? They need to give the new guys some room so they could win the Heavyweight Champion and WWE. There title reigns were fun. But there getting old. Triple H will probably be just like Vince. Giving himself a title reign whenever he **** well pleases.

You know what we get from WWE. Squash matches and rarely good matches.

Just look how Bobby Lashley turned out. Nobody knew him when he was in SD. He went to ECW look at him now.

[Blu-Ray]

Thats why TNA is going to do what WWF did to WCW, and I stick with that statement until proven wrong.

[AJJets107]

Yeah, but TNA needs to advertise more. How did WWE get known? Advertising. And word of mouth. At the rate TNA is going it could overcome WWE. But it's not going to happen next year.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Yeah, but TNA needs to advertise more. How did WWE get known? Advertising. And word of mouth. At the rate TNA is going it could overcome WWE. But it's not going to happen next year.
TNA cant compete with WWE.. WWE has been around for (correct me if i'm mistaken) 50+ years probably.. TNA has been out for 1/10th of that. You cant expect a baby company that has limited fans to compete with anyone, but they are doing wrestling well.

[AJJets107]

Yup. WWE didn't get the ratings it has today over a year. It took years of good wrestling and years of advertising.

[Blu-Ray]

TNA should have shows on Local T.V channels... I don't know why, lol.

[AJJets107]

They should have shows where everybody has access to. I am not sure if Spike TV has it.

[Blu-Ray]

About what you said about advertising..

I have only seen advertisments about TNA ON TNA. What good can come from that?

[AJJets107]

TNA advertised on Raw. But I think it was in the Northeast area. And please release Pacman Jones. No wrestling skills=No ratings.

[Blu-Ray]

Meh.... I like Pacman. :)
The Crowd loves him too.

But, I seriously am pissed at TNA not pushing the **** out of AJ Styles. I wouldn't even be watching TNA is it wasn't for him.

[AJJets107]

I know the guy can't wrestle due to the Titans. But I mean come on. The guy can't wrestle (**** Titans) and he's champ. Something I haven't seen before.

[Maddog911]

Yea having Pacman Jones on TNA is worthless because he isnt allowed to do anything. He basically cant touch or be touched by any wrestler. I think its stupid that hes even on there.

[Maddog911]

1.Injury
2.Orton had the title given by Vince.
3.Triple H beat him and lost in the LMS.
4. Kennedy injured him in the match.
Sorry about the double post but i went back and read an error. Kennedy didnt injure Cena. Cena injured himself because he sucks at wrestling. What he did was he tore his pectoral muscle when he was giving a frickin hip toss. Who does that? O yea people that cant wrestle

[Blu-Ray]

Sorry about the double post but i went back and read an error. Kennedy didnt injure Cena. Cena injured himself because he sucks at wrestling. What he did was he tore his pectoral muscle when he was giving a frickin hip toss. Who does that? O yea people that cant wrestle

:lol:
Classic Quote. Had my laughing hard.


And Smackdown was good tonight. Jesse and Festus... OMFG. Can you say entertainment?

[RedOrb_Collector]

Jesse and Festus are just plain awesome.

And there goes the push you wanted for Taker man. You shouldn't jump the gun.

[Blu-Ray]

Yep, there it is. :)

And for the faction thing, I may have been wrong about that as well. :)


Dave Taylor, Paul Burchill, and Scottish new comer Drew McIntyre will all be put together as a new faction for the SmackDown brand. Burchill has recently been down in Ohio Valley Wrestling as a major heel. McIntyre is said to be a resemblance to a bulkier Brian Kendrick.


Very true.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Two things.. That Mckintyre guy is REALLY good in the ring... and he looks like Matt Tuck from Bullet For My Valentine

TNA are milking Pacmans star power while they can because people down in the area that they tour **** well know who he is. TNA are still pushing their own stars like crazy but they need to put main events that people will want to see.. EX: Sting VS Angle.. you dont have Sting and Kurt ****ING Angle on your roster and not M.E. them.

[Blu-Ray]

But he looks so much like Kendrick.... Same build too, just bigger, stronger, and taller.

Look at SD! roster, specifically tag team.

Major Brothers - Good Team
Jesse and Festus - :)
DnD - Cool
That new Faction with Taylor and that Scottish guy - Good. :)

Now, watch one of them go to RAW in a couple months. :(

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

DnD??? Anyways...



Imposter Kane (2006)

On May 29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_29), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), the Wrestling Observer reported that Hankinson debuted on WWE RAW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Raw), confronting Kane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Jacobs) while dressed in Kane's original ring attire, complete with a full face mask (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_mask). Without saying a word, Hankinson chokeslammed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokeslam) Kane. The two continued to battle one another over subsequent weeks, the impersonator continually gaining the upper hand, leading to a match being scheduled for Vengeance 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Vengeance#2006). In a match, Hankinson went on to defeat Kane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane) at Vengeance with a chokeslam. On the following episode of RAW, Hankinson was beaten down by the real Kane, who then tore the mask from his face and threw him out of the arena, claiming that it belonged to him. This marked Hankinson's last appearance on RAW.
Following his feud with Kane, Hankinson returned to Deep South Wrestling, in addition to appearing at SmackDown! house shows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_show) as The Freakin' Deacon. In late January he formed a tag team with G-Rilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Rilla).


This is Festus....

[Blu-Ray]

DnD = Duece and Domino

Festus is just freakin' awesome.....

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Ohhh DnD :D ... Honestly, Id never have given them the belts so soon.. gotta let their characters develope.. although anyone is better than London n' Kendrick.

[Blu-Ray]

I will just ignore that comment. L n' K was awesome :)

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

How can they be awesome. There was absolutley ZERO story between them and their opponents.. They only wrestled them because Michael Cole made up some stupid storyline for them because they couldnt cut a promo to save Benoits life.

[Blu-Ray]

But they were so entertaining, which made up for their lack of storylines.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Well it doesnt mean much in WWE because the story lines are literally 3/4 of the show.

[Blu-Ray]

I guess you are right.

Seriously, Jesse and Festus need to be pushed immediately. No joke. I like them that much.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Jesse can cut a promo by himself and Festus is a **** show man!!

[Blu-Ray]

Heck, even Jesse can pull a **** show himself!

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

:D And they are both very good wrestlers. So I can see them going far.. plus I can see a fued already with DnD.. They'll catch festus drooling looking at cherry :D!!!!!!

[Blu-Ray]

:lol:

Those Tag Titles will look good on their waist. :)

[RedOrb_Collector]

LOL I love their theme song!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoVLTKhViac&mode=related&search=

Biscuits annnnd Graaavvyyy! :D

[Blu-Ray]

:lol:

When I first heard it, the first thing to come to mind was "WTF".

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Biscuits and Gravy = Mouth cum.

[Blu-Ray]

I changed the name of the thread to make it seem more official. Anyone like?

[AJJets107]

I like the title change. Because WWE/TNA aren't the only wrestling companies.

[killzone_71]

The title covers all organizations in the wrasslin' business... :D

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

EHHHH!!!!

Sounds good and it makes it look less LALLALAW/E#LELL!!///!!?!?!

So Its all good dawg.

[Blu-Ray]

Lol, thanks.
*Smacks beer out of Jet's hand*

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

*shotguns a bottle*..................
DO not break the 5 word minimum rule~AJJets

[AJJets107]

Remember don't break the 5 word minimum rule. Anyway has anybody ever seen ROH?

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Errr yeah sorry.. lol..

I never got to watch ROH, but I heard it was amazing.. Im pretty sure its TNA's training grounds as to WWE's OVW. Homicide made his name there as did Styles, Joe, Jay Lethal... ect.

Homicide pretty much trained the wrestlers working for ROH.

[Blu-Ray]

I never watched ROH because I never knew what it was until now... hmmm

*Youtube time*

[AJJets107]

I would really love for ROH to get a deal with a TV company. So I will be able to see them.

[killzone_71]

Youtube holds all sorts of wonders... :snicker

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

:D I like you tube. :D Type in Botchmania and start laughing.

[Blu-Ray]

Alright, right after I stop listening to Lupe. I just can't. :(

Anyways.. this is a random match I found on the internetz.
*might take a while*

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/434vrjOfQlXn8d5vK

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

TNA is trying to have Kane VS Undertaker in Judas Mesius VS Abyss.

[Blu-Ray]

No one can be Undertaker... no one..

[AJJets107]

I am still deciding if I should order Bound for Glory. There making it sound like the Wrestlemania of TNA.

[Blu-Ray]

I think that it is..
Maybe you should try and watching it for free some how? I am still wondering if I should order / pay for any TNA PPV because they still have a few glitches in the way they run things.

[AJJets107]

I am surprised at the ticket cost. $15. I wanted to go with my friends. But his car sucks.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

I think its going to be a good PPV to be honest. I think there will be a bunch of good matches with the TNA stars and EX-Dub alike.

[Blu-Ray]

BFG should be on in a couple hours / minutes. Can't wait.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Post the results with a spoiler Blu-Ray, I dont get to see iMPACT this week!!

[Blu-Ray]

TNA Bound for Glory Results <br />
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<br />
Bound For Glory: Triple X vs. Latin American Exchange <br />
Elix Skipper starts climbing the structure with Senshi as the bell rings. LAX yanks them down. Homicide...

[justintheman99]

Did anyone else here about the re-formation of the Hart Foundation using younger members of the Hart family?

[crash323]

Yep the rumors say that the Hart Foundation 2.0 will debut either in ECW or Smackdown in late November. Sources say that "Teddy Hart" Bret Hart's nephew got fired from WWE 2 days ago.

I watched Bound for Glory yesterday on my CoolSat 5000 receiver, and the match that stood out more to me than any other match in TNA's line-up was LAX vs Triple X that was an AWESOME match in the whole PPV in my opinion.

[Knuckles126]

Am I the only one happy that Cena will be gone for 6-8 months? :DD

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Am I the only one happy that Cena will be gone for 6-8 months? :DD
If you're the only happy one, then people are ****ed in the head. He is the reason why people badmouth wrestling.

[Knuckles126]

If you're the only happy one, then people are ****ed in the head. He is the reason why people badmouth wrestling.
I predict that in the next 6-8 months, WWE ratings will once again soar because Cena is gone. People are so sick of that loser.

Btw, I watched 'The Marine' and I can say with absolute certainty it was the worst movie I've ever seen...even worse than the new Dukes of Hazzard... :lol:

Who else is watching RAW right now?

Randy Orton looks like a true champion, and it's great to see him walk out with the belt over his shoulder. :DD

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

I am right now, and Its going ok. I just wish that the Kennedy Orton match could have played out better than it did.

[RedOrb_Collector]

RAW was pretty good tonight.

Jeff hardy vs orton sucked.....Orton is supposed to be the champ how dare they let him sell 90% of jeff's offense while barely getting in his own? I hate WWE's face-heel dynamic....heels end up being the underdog when its supposed to be the other way around!

Kennedy vs. Orton was a good match. It was an even competition and quite frankly these days the only way WWE can get good matches is by pairing heel vs heel or face vs face......since they managed to mess up the timeless face-heel confrontations in this era by making the faces invincible......
That being said this match should have gone on longer it was just hitting its stride and Kennedy even pulled off his green bay plunge finisher which I marked out on.


Cody Rhodes got the **** beat out of him by Hardcore Holly again. lol. imo this was the best match of the night, good pace and good wrestling. I'm glad Holly pulled off another win.

[justintheman99]

Raw was good but to me they just didn't make Orton look like a champion. That really annoyed me, and I recall saying very vulgar things at my TV. :lol: I got quite a kick out of the whole Coach and Hornswoggle angle when he blew up the ring with Coach underneath of it. However I cant help but be a little bit upset with all the attention this litle guy is getting when we all know it should of been Kennedy's spotlight.

[Blu-Ray]

Agreed.

And I agree with what RoC said about having the faces looks invisible. Whats the point of that?!? The faces are the ones who are suppose to beat the unbeatable bad guys no matter how much it takes... thats the why it has been forever until now. Now John Cena is (was) the invinsible guy while the heels have the roles of trying to beat him. :|

[crash323]

New WWE Report: SmackDown and ECW Brands Merging? Details


From WWE.com:

WWE.com has learned that several meetings have taken place between Acting SmackDown General Manager Vickie Guerrero and ECW General Manager Armando Estrada that, if ratified, would allow SmackDown and ECW Superstars to compete on Tuesday and Friday nights.

While nothing is signed as of yet, locker room sources say that this open door agreement between Vickie and Estrada will be discussed tonight, live on ECW on Sci Fi. No further details have been released, and when pressed for more information, Estrada was tight-lipped (a rarity in its own right).

“I have no news for you right now,” said Estrada. “But tonight on ECW on Sci Fi (10/9 CT), I will give some insight into these meetings.”


This is good news for me smackdown is struggling to keep their ratings high like they were a few months back and ECW lacks wrestlers that need good feuds to catapult them to a higher level. I agree do it now Vickie and Estrada.

Breaking News: Booker and Sharmell Released

The following is from WWE.com:

WWE has come to terms on the release of WWE Superstar Booker T and WWE Diva Sharmell as of October 27. We wish both Booker & Sharmell the best in all their future endeavors.

WOW I guess no more King booker he might go to TNA if the offer is right but I'll doubt it.

[UnReaL]

New WWE Report: SmackDown and ECW Brands Merging? Details



This is good news for me smackdown is struggling to keep their ratings high like they were a few months back and ECW lacks wrestlers that need good feuds to catapult them to a higher level. I agree do it now Vickie and Estrada.

Breaking News: Booker and Sharmell Released


WOW I guess no more King booker he might go to TNA if the offer is right but I'll doubt it.

LOL, WWE.Com has learned. HA!!!!!

Well all decisions are made by Vince, so I agree that they should merge, and I hope he's smart enough to do that.

On a side note:
I forgot who it was, but WWE signs credible young talent. They also build their own from the ground up. Unlike WCW, and TNA. Which start great with their own talent, but then end up trying to take WWE/WWF's old, or busts on their brand. Look how many of TNA's talent is pushed aside for for former WWE wrestlers.

Jeff Jarret - Freakin Jeff Jarret was pushed to champion
Kurt Angle - became Champ
Christian - Christian champion really? I like his character but never a guy who should carry the company as the champion.

Those are just some examples. So where has Samoa Joe, or AJ been. They are not even close to the title hunt. TNA believes that ex WCW/WWE wrestlers will help them rise about WWE. WCW thought the same, but that didn't happen. I have no problem with TNA signing ex WWE guys, just make sure you don't burn your own rising talent.

[crash323]

Those are just some examples. So where has Samoa Joe, or AJ been. They are not even close to the title hunt. TNA believes that ex WCW/WWE wrestlers will help them rise about WWE. WCW thought the same, but that didn't happen. I have no problem with TNA signing ex WWE guys, just make sure you don't burn your own rising talent.

Could of never said it better myself completly agree with you their. That's TNA weak spot they can't elevate young talent to their fullest extent only WWE can, but no worries as soon as Samoa Joe leaves TNA for WWE TNA is D-E-A-D.:mrgreen:

[Knuckles126]

I told you Booker was a loser...hence why the WWE is letting him go. :lol:

[dc writer]

Maybe Booker is a looser, but even I have to admit his & Sharmell's Characters in WWE was the more enjoyable than most of what WWE has now.

[MarKoNiO]

How can you say Booker is a loser ? His career is brilliant and his ring and mic skills are godly.

[AJJets107]

I am glad he left. WWE had nothing for him.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Booker was awesome. He'll be missed and surely a hall of famer down the road.

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

Hall of Famer... for what? He was a one time champion because the "big guns" were all hurt at the time, he had the worst gimmick ever gained from a tourny that didnt really mean anything, and he had a fued with Jerry Lawler. Sure he was a 5 time WCW champ, but in reality, that doesnt mean much. EVERYONE was WCW champ.

[Knuckles126]

He's just another loser that will probably end up in TNA just like all the other losers who can't hack it in the big leagues that is the WWE.

[RedOrb_Collector]

Hall of Famer... for what? He was a one time champion because the "big guns" were all hurt at the time, he had the worst gimmick ever gained from a tourny that didnt really mean anything, and he had a fued with Jerry Lawler. Sure he was a 5 time WCW champ, but in reality, that doesnt mean much. EVERYONE was WCW champ.

Everyone was WCW champ? Hell WCW only kept pushing a core unit of like 5 people. There are tons of has beens that have been hall of famer just because they are 'classics'. Booker (as Booker T at least) was an all around
great in-ring and mic talent, his disputes with The Rock, Austin and partnering with Goldust were all comedy gold and he was a great world champion. He is going into the Hall of Fame 100% guaranteed. Hell any half decent wrestler who had even an IC title reign seems eligible.

[Blu-Ray]

Booker T is one of the best ever.... he should be in the HOF.

And about SD! and ECW merging

One word: HELLL YEAHZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

When the most prestigious belt in your promotion is around the waist of David Arquette, that belt becomes an instant joke.

[MikeAaronB]

When the most prestigious belt in your promotion is around the waist of David Arquette, that belt becomes an instant joke.

The belt that he put around his waist didn't define his talent. I could care less that he was five time, five time, five time, five, time, FIVE TIME...WCW Champion!

Booker T was a talented wrestler. Hall Of Famer, indeed. How anyone could call him a loser is crazy to me.

[DontKnowMe]

Here are some matches from "Bound for Glory"

They are from Youtube so you know wat that means.
Watch them before they get removed.

AJ Styles & Tomko V Ron Killings Creed & Adam Jones
http://www.youtube.com/v/6oO8wSxW9Qk

http://www.youtube.com/v/tINZCYfHmBQ

Christopher Daniels Vs Jay Lethal

http://www.youtube.com/v/k9iKCxxNuT8

http://www.youtube.com/v/V8Qcc92XPvs

Knockouts Title 10 Woman Gauntlet

Gail Kim Vs Amazing Kong ( Awesome Kong )
Vs Roxy Vs Jackie Moore Vs Ms Brooks Vs ODB Vs Talia Madison Vs Angel Williams Vs Shelley Martinez Vs Christy Hemme
*Fair warning you will get flashed by Amazing Kong when she is eliminated*:pale

http://www.youtube.com/v/BIwqwZSSkcc
http://www.youtube.com/v/WSbwVM1BdtI

Christian Cage Vs Samoa Joe

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z5UUR4maeUo
http://www.youtube.com/v/uy01cLaxu5c

Sting Vs Kurt Angle

http://www.youtube.com/v/szFgZYX6QaY
http://www.youtube.com/v/mBqY7mqjrvI
http://www.youtube.com/v/qulEHjs3yjY

[Maddog911]

Booker T is done wrestling for a little bit. He wants to be committed to his training facility in Houston for awhile and teach wrestlers how to be good. He wont sign with TNA.

And whoever said that whn Samoa Joe signs with the WWE, TNA will be dead. First of all Samoa Joe will NEVER sign with the WWE. Hes either staying on TNA or retiring for good

[Blu-Ray]

I won't say that now.... If the WWE offers him more money. :)

And BDV was on SD!, that feud with Undertaker may start next week. :)

[justintheman99]

I think a merge between ECW and Smackdown could be the move they need in order to keep both of those brands in the high ratings zone as they have been struggling as of late. I am all for that idea! :wink:

[UnReaL]

I won't say that now.... If the WWE offers him more money. :)

And BDV was on SD!, that feud with Undertaker may start next week. :)

There you go. Money solves problmes. Hogan doesn't want to wrestle...throw millions at him for 1 match. Vince is willing to pay alot of cash for talent, and to whom he thinks will bring ratings. He just won't go overboard, just like when Hogan asked for a cut of the Wrestlemania Profits, last year I believe. Vince said, no and they went with Umaga vs. (The Human Hulk...sorry forgot his name), instead of Umaga vs. Hogan in the Hair match.


RVD has siad that one company is the be all of end all of the Wrestling business. And thats the WWE. When he wrestled in Japan, thats all they would talk about was WWE. So I see no problem with Samoa Joe coming to WWE and raising his stature in the wrestling business, or any other great talent for that matter.

[dc writer]

Hey Crash323 Pull up that report about Shawn Michaels punking Vince backstage after Vince tries to embarrass him in front of the other wrestlers. :lol: