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Yeah, Kennedy has gotten bigger as well...
hmm..
LOL @ HBK and the TV screen!!! RAW IS JERICHO!!!!!!
justintheman99
06-12-2008, 16:41
I still think that Jerochio vs. Kennedy will happen very soon. I predict that the whole Burchill vs. Kennedy feud will be over soon as I think he will be drafted to Smackdown. A feud with Jericho is just what Kennedy needs as Jericho has great status and can obviously play a great heel character as well. Eventually having Kennedy go over on Jericho for the IC title would be amazing. :)
I don't know why I find myself pulling for Cena. :confused:
Galvanise_
06-18-2008, 13:09
Lance Cade is going to get a monster push. Having him and Y2J do over Cena and HHH was unexpected.
justintheman99
06-18-2008, 13:54
Hmmm they pushed him harder than I would of expected here. Seems like he has cut ahead in the line even further up than Kennedy. *sigh*
:lol:
I loved that whole scene with Ric, HHH, and Y2J. I giggled a little.
justintheman99
06-18-2008, 18:10
Well it seems like they are really going to push Y2J as a major heel now. Seems like a great idea as they brought him back as a face and failed to utilize him properly. Now I want to see a Y2J vs. Kennedy feud as Y2J hasn't had a good feud yet for that IC title.
Yeah, I haven't seen anything done with the IC title in a while.
Well it seems like they are really going to push Y2J as a major heel now. Seems like a great idea as they brought him back as a face and failed to utilize him properly. Now I want to see a Y2J vs. Kennedy feud as Y2J hasn't had a good feud yet for that IC title.
They have to since Raw doesn't have a top heel at the moment with Orton gone. So it was a good idea.
SymphonyX
06-19-2008, 01:59
Does stone cold still wrestle?
Does stone cold still wrestle?
He has been retired for quite some time. He does make a occasional appearance though.
Does stone cold still wrestle?
He 'retired' in 2004, makes the occasional appearance since.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:05
I'm mad that him and The Rock retired from wrestling. I grew up watching them.
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 02:08
Lance Cade is going to get a monster push. Having him and Y2J do over Cena and HHH was unexpected.
It was unexpected but I think you're jumping ahead a little bit with the monster push thing. :p
Hopefully we get a stable of HBK haters or something. lol. Cade trained in Shawn Michael's school so that's probably what they will refer to.
Yeah, me too. ^^^
How do you guys feel about the WWE Draft Next Monday on the 23rd? I think that Umaga might go to Smackdown... that seems like the only realistic thing that could go down. I am a SD!, so I favor SD! obviously, and I think that Batista is boring.
And the Undertaker will return...
During the Edge/Vickie Wedding
Source: Rajah.com
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:13
Undertaker is the only reason I watch Smackdown and since he left. I been favoring Raw but I know he is going to come back. Vince would be an idiot to lose him to TNA!
You do know that he actually didn't leave right? He needed time off to heal some nagging injuries.
I knew he was going to return. Plus there were some rumors of Cena coming over to SD! I am not sure if it's true. If you people remember when Cena was in SD that where he had a rapper gimmick. Also I can understand SCSA leaving because I believe he had a neck injury, but I am mad that Rocky left professional wrestling.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:18
You do know that he actually didn't leave right? He needed time off to heal some nagging injuries.
I know he didn't leave but when a GM overly uses their power, Vince or the Board of Directors usually fired them. Why haven't they fired this chick yet.
I knew he was going to return. Plus there were some rumors of Cena coming over to SD! I am not sure if it's true. If you people remember when Cena was in SD that where he had a rapper gimmick. Also I can understand SCSA leaving because I believe he had a neck injury, but I am mad that Rocky left professional wrestling.
Yeah, I read that too. Stone Cold can't wrestle anymore because of his neck and if he does wrestle, could put some serious damage on him.
On The Rock leaving --- Sucks
On Stone Cold Leaving -- He needed to leave with his neck an all.
Cena isn't going to Smackdown, he has a title match with Triple H remember... unless they bring the WWE Championship to Smackdown, which will never happen.
And you know what I find almost hilarious.. John Cena doesn't even speak like a rapper anymore! He doesn't have that sound... he sounds too proper now.
I know he didn't leave but when a GM overly uses their power, Vince or the Board of Directors usually fired them. Why haven't they fired this chick yet.
It's all part of a storyline. In Kayfabe Edge is using Vickie so he can remain on top. Which is why Vickie is using her "powers" so Edge can try and win in most matches.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:21
On The Rock leaving --- Sucks
On Stone Cold Leaving -- He needed to leave with his neck an all.
Cena isn't going to Smackdown, he has a title match with Triple H remember... unless they bring the WWE Championship to Smackdown, which will never happen.
And you know what I find almost hilarious.. John Cena doesn't even speak like a rapper anymore! He doesn't have that sound... he sounds too proper now.
I really think the draft is pointless. Maybe Jeff Hardy could go to Smackdown because there is no way he is winning a title with HHH and Cena on that show. At least he could beat Edge.
The Poll is about to change if a mod accepts me request. Enjoy!
I can't wait till it ends... I like the faction they have, I just think it's going to be hilarious when he "dumps" her.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:24
The Poll is about to change if a mod accepts me request. Enjoy!
I can't wait till it ends... I like the faction they have, I just think it's going to be hilarious when he "dumps" her.
Yeah, I still think they need to fire her from SD GM.
Nah... the only reason they have her as the GM is because of Eddie's death.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:27
Eddie was wack, he doesn't even deserve to be a champion IMO.
I heavily, HEAVILY disagree to the furthest extent.
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 02:31
Its the truth, he only beat Brock Lesnar because Goldberg spear the sh*t out of him.
Cant vote on the edited poll because I voted on the last one, needs to be reset.
Also, is their a site that tells you what matches are on each episode of Raw and Smackdown?
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 03:54
Its the truth, he only beat Brock Lesnar because Goldberg spear the sh*t out of him.
No.....He won because the fans loved Eddie and the WWE decided to reward him with the title.
Eddy was great on the mic and great in the ring, and he could get the crowd to react to him in anyway he wanted. He could make them angry, he could make them laugh...he could do it all.
Which is why he got the title. How he won it in the storyline is besides the point.
Anyway Batista vs Edge is going to be boring as hell. Batista is pushing 40 and no longer interesting to me anymore. Obviously he won't take the title from Edge, but they have no choice but to put Batista against him as they have no other main even face competitor.
Fernando9
06-19-2008, 09:02
atleast WWE cared more about Eddie, Rey and Benoit than WCW did in the past all WCW was about is big wrestlers like Nash, Hogan, Sting, Bret
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 13:57
The Rock will NEVER return to professional wrestling. He even said it himself countless times that he is done with all of it. He wants to concentrate on his acting career and make bundles of cash. If he did come back though my interest in the show would go through the roof.
Yeah, I am going to get someone to reset the poll man...
Batista as a heel would be interesting though.... but that will never happen. He has the Jone Cena effect on the women with their high pitch voices. :(
That is the only way I can reset the poll.
Hmm... you can't delete it?
I wish they would just take Vickie out the storyline, did you know everytime she says 'Excuse me!' a child dies. Think of the children!
Also Khali is a really crap wrestler, its actually unfunny, hes just tall thats it, hes slow and gives no entertainment value.
RAW -- ECW Show Merger in the works!
The scheduled Raw-ECW show merger won't be starting until August 1st, not later this month like originally reported. The last SmackDown/ECW show is scheduled to take place on Tuesday, July 29 in Hershey, PA. A live Raw taping is scheduled to take place the night before at the Verizon Center in Washington D.C. with a Saturday Night's Main Event taping to air at the end of the week on NBC, so that may explain the August 1st start date. Anyway, most everyone in the company is negative on the Raw-ECW show merger, feeling that there is a lot more tension backstage on Monday nights for Raw than Tuesday nights for SmackDown, which is a considerably more relaxed atmosphere. Also, competition is going to be a lot more fierce for spots at house show events. A number of the lower card wrestlers on Raw & ECW are going to have a pretty tough time. On the positive side, the WWE production team has an extra day to clean up any embarrassing Mike Adamle broadcasting miscues instead of less than two hours on most weeks.
Lance Cades big Push
WWE has had plans to move Lance Cade into a higher profile role for the past few months, they were just waiting for the right moment to pull the trigger and it came this past Monday when he did a run-in during the main event in a beat down of John Cena & Triple H. At least at one point, WWE's plan was to move Cade into an upper midcard heel role on Raw, replacing Umaga's spot on Raw, who has been tapped to move to SmackDown. All this explains why Cade was distanced from former tag team partner Trevor Murdoch.
I get all my infromation from www.rajah.com (http://www.rajah.com)
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:04
Thats why when Khali tries to wrestle you always hear the "You can't wrestle!" chants in every building. :wink:
Hmm... you can't delete it?
It doesn't give me the option to do so.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:07
Here all this time I thought I was one of the only ones who knew about the goodness that is Rajah.com
It's funny to me....
Great Khali is awesome.....
Yes justin... I love Rajah too.. I visit it atleast once a day.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:10
I visit at least every few hours as they are SO FAST at updating information and posting new things. Perhaps the best site I have EVER come across for wrestling news for both major promotions.
Agreed, and I love the nice, simple layout of the site as well.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:15
I also enjoy the Oratory that a guy named John writes like once a month for a recap on what he thinks the industry is doing wrong as well as right at this current time.
Wow, this thread has gotten active again since I have been posting again regularly.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:21
The thread has always been active it is just that recently there hasn't been many wrestling guru's like myself and yourself online. :wink:
I've only just started watching again, although, I mainly just watch the PPV and the odd match on youtube.
Don't forget RoC, he's one as well. :)
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:25
I still feel that wrestling can NEVER go back to the glory days of when the two top guys were Austin and The Rock. Can anyone ever do the magic in the ring, and on the mic these guys did day in and day out?
Nope, Triple H still makes me laugh thought from time to time.
RAW -- ECW Show Merger in the works!
The scheduled Raw-ECW show merger won't be starting until August 1st, not later this month like originally reported. The last SmackDown/ECW show is scheduled to take place on Tuesday, July 29 in Hershey, PA. A live Raw taping is scheduled to take place the night before at the Verizon Center in Washington D.C. with a Saturday Night's Main Event taping to air at the end of the week on NBC, so that may explain the August 1st start date. Anyway, most everyone in the company is negative on the Raw-ECW show merger, feeling that there is a lot more tension backstage on Monday nights for Raw than Tuesday nights for SmackDown, which is a considerably more relaxed atmosphere. Also, competition is going to be a lot more fierce for spots at house show events. A number of the lower card wrestlers on Raw & ECW are going to have a pretty tough time. On the positive side, the WWE production team has an extra day to clean up any embarrassing Mike Adamle broadcasting miscues instead of less than two hours on most weeks.
Well, with ECW moving with Raw. Imagine how hard it is for the Smackdown! wrestlers who are booked for both ECW and Smackdown. For example people like Big Show. Speaking of SNME it's been a while since we had one of those. Hopefully they will air this one live.
Lance Cades big Push
WWE has had plans to move Lance Cade into a higher profile role for the past few months, they were just waiting for the right moment to pull the trigger and it came this past Monday when he did a run-in during the main event in a beat down of John Cena & Triple H. At least at one point, WWE's plan was to move Cade into an upper midcard heel role on Raw, replacing Umaga's spot on Raw, who has been tapped to move to SmackDown. All this explains why Cade was distanced from former tag team partner Trevor Murdoch.I have always waited for Lance Cade to get a push. It goes to show that Trevor Murdoch was bringing him down.
Has anybody seen ECW lately. I marked out when Evan Bourne (A.K.A) Matt Sydal did a shooting star press.
I feel Cena has potential to be close to what to the Rock was, but hes kinda irreplacable.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:31
I am still in shock how Lance Cade jumped ahead of Kennedy in the "waiting to be pushed" list. *sigh* I feel that Kennedy is the future of this company.
I am still in shock how Lance Cade jumped ahead of Kennedy in the "waiting to be pushed" list. *sigh* I feel that Kennedy is the future of this company.
I would love to see Kennedy move back to SD! If it wasn't for him being drafted to Raw. He would have hold the WHC title at least once by now. Lance Cade well I don't see him getting a monster push. Unless he gets the JBL push.
I really want Kennedy and Umaga to go to SD!...
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 19:48
I feel Cena has potential to be close to what to the Rock was, but hes kinda irreplacable.
Cena is already as big a star as he'll ever be. He's not going to reach The Rock's level.
Justin I don't think Cade jumped ahead of Kennedy at all. It's not like Cade is going to get a title shot or anything anytime soon. Kennedy's position is very secure at the moment, because he sells a lot of t-shirts. lol.
Smackdown is boring as dirt lately. It's easily my least favorite brand right now....
On Raw I watch for Triple H and Kennedy. On ECW I watch for Kofi Kingston(guy is awesome), Shelton Benjamin, Miz and Morrison.
Smackdown......ummm...I would say Big Show but he's probably going to switch to ECW after Night of Champions.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:50
Justin I don't think Cade jumped ahead of Kennedy at all. It's not like Cade is going to get a title shot or anything anytime soon. Kennedy's position is very secure at the moment, because he sells a lot of t-shirts. lol.
I think he has since he was involved with the TOP guys on the last Raw. I see him being pushed hard as a hell wrestler now especially that Orton's spot is now open due to his injury. They need another top heel and if you ask me Cade is taking that spot.
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 19:53
I think he has since he was involved with the TOP guys on the last Raw. I see him being pushed hard as a hell wrestler now especially that Orton's spot is now open due to his injury. They need another top heel and if you ask me Cade is taking that spot.
No no no. Jericho has taken Orton's spot. Cade has more less become a student of Y2J. Nothing more at the moment.
Kennedy was involved with the top heel (Regal) before Regal got suspended, so his stroke of bad luck is why Kennedy is sort of stuck with Burchill for now.
justintheman99
06-19-2008, 19:55
No no no. Jericho has taken Orton's spot. Cade has more less become a student of Y2J. Nothing more at the moment.
Hmmm I like that logic much more. He could learn a lot from Jericho since he has been around for so long and has been in the ring with all the best there is.
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 20:09
Who do you want to get drafted?
TH3 GAM3
06-19-2008, 20:30
To be honest, if Undertaker was there during the draft. I would love for him to go to Raw. Smackdown is wack with this chick running the show.
Underaker is going to return after the Draft...
Undertaker will never be on the same show as Triple H. They have too much bad blood to be working in the same shows.
RedOrb_Collector
06-19-2008, 20:52
They have bad blood? Where'd you hear this?
From people, they've even said it themselves during interviews and such. Why do you think they've been apart for like 5-6 years?
justintheman99
06-20-2008, 13:53
I think there is more than just Undertaker who has bad blood with HHH. After reading Bret Hart's book it really gave me quite an insight as to how HHH acts when it comes to everyone else on the roster. He is up "here" and everyone else is down "here".
Galvanise_
06-20-2008, 20:44
I think there is more than just Undertaker who has bad blood with HHH. After reading Bret Hart's book it really gave me quite an insight as to how HHH acts when it comes to everyone else on the roster. He is up "here" and everyone else is down "here".
True. As much as I hate to say it, as he is one of my favorite Wrestlers of all time, HHH uses his family influence to pick and choose when he has a push, who he puts over etc, whereas the Undertaker has earned his respect and position by sheer hard work and risk taking.
Vince and Taker are very good friends, the wedge between the two is HHH.
Triple H is a jerk. :lol: But entertaining. :(
Man, they need to do something with that Russian guy on Smackdown, he's awesome! And I also that thing they did with the Ref on Smackdown. I actually felt sorry for the guy. :lol:
RedOrb_Collector
06-21-2008, 05:51
I didn't feel sorry for Charles Robinson at all. lol. His selling was hilariously bad. :lol:
Exactly, thats why I felt sorry for him!
Galvanise_
06-21-2008, 21:53
Man, they need to do something with that Russian guy on Smackdown, he's awesome! And I also that thing they did with the Ref on Smackdown. I actually felt sorry for the guy. :lol:
Kozlov? He was picked far too green. No decent finisher, no music, boring generic crush matches, need I say anymore?
BREAKING NEWS ON MAJOR DRAFTEE!!
John Cena will be going to Smackdown, and there will be a new WWE World Heavywieght "spinner" belt"
RedOrb_Collector
06-22-2008, 05:20
I'll believe it when I see it....
I got it from a link a Rajah.com. Some guy said he worked at the factory that makes them at Ohio and told him that it was the World Heavyweight title - but with spinners.
RedOrb_Collector
06-22-2008, 05:34
Sounds like bull straight up. I have little faith in 'insider' sites these days.
Probably because WWE has been managing to surprise me lately and keep big things hush hush.
justintheman99
06-23-2008, 13:58
Personally is John Cena went back to Smackdown it would be a good move. They have WAY too many main event guys on Raw and they need more free space in order to develop new talent and get them climbing that ladder.
John Cena vs. Batista or Edge or even Undertaker again would be awesome. I actually like the guy now for some weird reason. He can get annoying sometimes, but he works his *** off and he is a good performer...
I can't believe I just said that.
justintheman99
06-23-2008, 18:55
All I can say is that I am VERY excited for tonight's show as I am sure many surprise superstars will be moved around. Here is to hoping Kennedy stays on Raw. *Fingers crossed!*
RedOrb_Collector
06-23-2008, 19:36
If John Cena moves to smackdown that means the streak will be over come Wrestlemania 25! Damn it!
I thought John Cena was already on Raw?
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 05:21
Wow....the draft certainly did shake things up. There were some monster bombs throughout that show.
Goodfella
06-24-2008, 05:24
Can't believe this thread hasn't been updated. Looks like they got some real good writers working on tonights RAW. I couldn't possibly believe all that happened all at once.
Chesser19
06-24-2008, 05:24
Wow....the draft certainly did shake things up. There were some monster bombs throughout that show.
I have to agree with you. I never would have expected Triple H being drafted to Smackdown.
Knuckles126
06-24-2008, 05:33
RAW is finished. Without Jim Ross and Triple H, I will no longer be watching the show. Way to go Vince... :roll:
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 06:07
For the first time since Lesnar was champ....Smackdown is once again the better brand...wow.
*walks in*
AHEMM.... Wrestling became a little girlie when Brock Lesnar and Goldberg left and now it's a full women who is weak as a kitten because Kurt Angle left WWE. Therfore i stopped watching and it became just WACK! John cena who HE SUCKS that damn fake kid is a shame. Kurt Angle>WWE.
*spits on a WWE T-shirt*
*Walks out*
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 06:29
lmao! We haven't gotten a truly enflamed post like that for a while here.
TH3 GAM3
06-24-2008, 06:44
I still think Raw is better but Smackdown is getting exciting now. Just bring Undertaker back and Smackdown will so rule.
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 06:51
I still think Raw is better but Smackdown is getting exciting now. Just bring Undertaker back and Smackdown will so rule.
Raw ain't better anymore.
Trips alone makes Smackdown huge.
Raw ain't better anymore.
Trips alone makes Smackdown huge.
WWE ain't better no more Kurt angle>WWE
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 07:13
Angle was awesome, but he seriously needs to retire or the business might kill him....his health is terrible right now.
TH3 GAM3
06-24-2008, 07:19
Raw ain't better anymore.
Trips alone makes Smackdown huge.
If Undertaker comes back to Smackdown, it will be better than Raw but HHH alone is not cutting it. He will basically rule Smackdown. Who's going to challenge him, Edge. Edge SUCKS!!!
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 07:51
If Undertaker comes back to Smackdown, it will be better than Raw but HHH alone is not cutting it. He will basically rule Smackdown. Who's going to challenge him, Edge. Edge SUCKS!!!
No. Edge rules because even though you know wrestling is fake he makes you hate him. That means he's great at his job because he's supposed to make you hate him.
Kennedy is also a future challenger.
TH3 GAM3
06-24-2008, 08:04
No. Edge rules because even though you know wrestling is fake he makes you hate him. That means he's great at his job because he's supposed to make you hate him.
Kennedy is also a future challenger.
I don't like Kennedy cause he has a big ego but he is a good wrestler. Edge can't wrestle IMO. Every Championship he won, he had to do it when the tides are in his favor.
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 08:26
I don't like Kennedy cause he has a big ego but he is a good wrestler. Edge can't wrestle IMO. Every Championship he won, he had to do it when the tides are in his favor.
They are playing characters...again...remember The Rock had a 'big ego' too. You liked The Rock right?
Edge is a great wrestler. His character is a cowardly heel, he is SUPPOSED to do cheating maneuvers like that. That's what his character is constituted of.
I know you don't mean 'can't wrestle' as in the actual moves they can do because wrestling isn't an actual sport anyway, but if you do mean it that way then Edge is a lot better wrestler on the moveset side of things than Triple H.
That's because Triple H has had 2 huge injuries before and he has to play it safer by doing less moves. Edge doesn't have those same prior injuries holding him back.
TH3 GAM3
06-24-2008, 08:29
Although The Rock had a big ego, I still use to like him. I will forever like him, Stone Cold, and The Undertaker. I like the fact that HHH going to Smackdown. I think Edge is going to keep his title and HHH going to lose his title.
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 08:41
I hope Edge loses his title to Batista (even though I dislike Batista, I recognize that he's a big star)
And I hope Triple H retains because he was drafted as champ and should remain champ. (also because I don't want him to lose to Cena twice, can't stand Cena)
Although The Rock had a big ego, I still use to like him.
Then why don't you like Kennedy? Their characters are pretty much the same mold. Both are "good guys" with attitudes. That's the type of character that becomes a main eventer these days.
Goodfella
06-24-2008, 18:55
How about that meeting of the minds Batista and Edge had yesterday in the Battle Royal? Ouch!! It hurts enough when you get lightly tapped with a headbutt, but these dudes were going full force at each other. I'm surprised nobody was knocked out.
WWE Draft was freakin' awesome! Smackdown is back on top once again!! I never expected Triple H to be drafted to SD!, with Kennedy, Jeff, and Umanga!!! OMFG I can't wait to watch SD! on friday, especially with that "accident". It seemed like everything happened so fast... one of the best RAWs I have ever seen.
:lol: At Batista and Edge... I kinda knew Edge was going to win when it was both him and the Big Show vs HHH and Cena.
Jim Ross (http://rajah.com/base/node/12836#) nearly quit WWE last night after being drafted to SmackDown (http://rajah.com/base/node/12836#). He posted a new blog on his official website moments ago, stating that he was informed of the decision the same time fans were when they were watching on television (http://rajah.com/base/node/12836#). Below are some excerpts from his recent blog (http://rajah.com/base/node/12836#):
On being drafted to SmackDown: "I am not happy about this surprise development."
How he almost quit last night: "I also contemplated calling it a career Monday night and not going to Houston to tape SD."
When he decided to stay: "After speaking with my wife and thinking on this matter until 6 a.m. Tuesday morning, I have decided to do the right thing for the fans who care and the talent who care and begin my new assignment."
Why he was moved: "It has been explained to me that the WWE's Smackdown tenure on My Network is a high priority within the corporation. Allegedly, my presence is needed in that effort."
Reluctant to do post production: "As far as going to Connecticut each week to do Smackdown post production, that's not going to happen. Either Mick Foley can handle it or the WWE can install a DSL line (http://rajah.com/base/node/12836#) in my home to facilitate the work."
Click here (http://www.jrsbarbq.com/2008/06/24/jr%E2%80%99s-post-draft-thoughts/) to read the full blog.
RedOrb_Collector
06-24-2008, 21:05
How about that meeting of the minds Batista and Edge had yesterday in the Battle Royal? Ouch!! It hurts enough when you get lightly tapped with a headbutt, but these dudes were going full force at each other. I'm surprised nobody was knocked out.
That double spear attempt by them was.....ouch....
I guess Edge has a harder head or something because he wasn't cut open but Batista was. :lol:
so ecw wont be on sic-fic channel any more..
i dont watch ecw only raw and smack down..
thats hwy they moved HHH to smack down
Galvanise_
06-25-2008, 01:23
The reason a lot of big talent was moved to Smackdown! is because Smackdown is airing on a new network, and Vince wants it to get off to a good start on it.
justintheman99
06-25-2008, 14:23
Wow, after that Raw I am still in shock. It bothered me that ECW didn't get more talent moved there. It seems like WWE doesn't care too much about it at all. Frankly I think Smackdown won the jackpot with HHH moving there. To me it was the right thing to do in order to really help draw in viewers to that brand. Raw will always still be Raw but at the same time I wish Batista wasn't a part of it. For whatever reason I just can't get involved with this guy at all. One thing I will say is that it will be nice to see Kane again on monday nights and perhaps see him involved with a title angle at some point.
What my mindset is right now "Everyone who moved to Raw will soon become victims of Kennedy!"
KENNNNNNNNNNNEDYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
But Mr.Kennedy went to Smackdwon! KENNEDDAHH!!
I really enjoyed this years draft. Unlike last year where Smackdown! was ripped off for people like The Great Khali, Torrie Wilson. This year Smackdown! was given Kennedy, HHH, and Hardy. Those people are going to leave anytime soon. ECW was the Smackdown! this year. All they got was Matt Hardy, and they lost two of there biggest wrestlers CM Punk and Kane. I can understand CM Punk leaving as he was getting stale in ECW, but Kane doesn't need to be in Raw right now. There is way too many faces in Raw. They should have moved The Big Show to Raw. As for Raw they got the biggest wrestlers now. As you saw in the Battle Royal Raw's team was stacked. I am glad that HHH left Raw as he was getting stale there as well. I will be looking forward for the Supp draft as hopefully ECW gains some more people.
Liked
Smackdown getting big superstars
SD! and Raw being almost equal in star power
Disliked
ECW losing two members, and only getting one person in the whole draft.
I think they should turn Kane heel again. He was one of the greatest who ever did it in his prime in my opinion.
I would agree with Kane turning heel as he has been stale as a face. What I think they could do is possibly have him go berserk on Raw, and attack every body in the locker room. It wouldn't make him a heel, but possibly a tweener.
I just read the spoilers for Smackdown in Friday, it seems to be awesome, but Kennedy isn't going to be on until next week.
BREAKING NEWS!
- Jamie Noble has been drafted to RAW
- Mark Henry has been drafted to ECW
- Tervor Murdoch has been drafted to Smackdown
Big Daddy V has been Drafted to SD!.
Trevor Murdoch to Smackdown! is great. Lol at Jamie Noble moving to Raw he is going to job there obviously. And for Mark Henry moving to ECW is good. I hope for Big Show to move to ECW. So if he wins the ECW title it goes back to ECW.
Edit: With Deuce leaving Domino and Maryse. I am going too feel real sorry for both of them if they don't reunite because I don't see Deuce doing anything at Raw. Thank God DH Smith is moving to Smackdown! He was doing nothing at Raw, and now he will have his chance to shine.
Big Show doesn't have to be on ECW so the title stays on the Show. The Big Show vs Kane match has just been changed to a Triple Threat. So now its Big Show vs Kane vs Mark Henry, and as we all know, Mark Henry has just been drafted to ECW. With the push Mark has been getting lately, I give him a 90% chance to win the ECW title.
List of Supplemental Draftees as of Right NOW:
- Mark Henry ~ ECDubb
- Jamie Noble ~ RAW
- Trevor Murdoch ~ Smackdown
- Big Daddy V ~ Smackdown
- Duece ~ RAW
- DH Smith ~ Smackdown
- Hornswoggle ~ ECdubb
- Super Crazy ~ ECdubb (Best Sup. Draft Pick so far!!)
- Chuck Pulumbo ~ RAW
- Brian Kendrick ~ Smackdown (Bad Pick. Good Tag team he was in)
- Matt Striker ~ RAW (WTF)
- Maria ~ Smackdown
- Shelton Benjamin ~ Smackdown (OMFG I LOVE THIS Pick!!)
- Finlay ~ ECdubb
- Carlito ~ Smackdown
- Layla ~ RAW
- Kofi Kingston ~ RAW
Wow, Smackdown is getting a major overhaul!!!
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No. of Draft picks for each brand (Supplemental Draft)
Smackdown: 7
RAW: 6
ECW: 4
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Source: WWE.com (http://ps3forums.com/www.wwe.com)
THE DRAFT IS OFFICIALLY OVER.
RedOrb_Collector
06-25-2008, 19:38
Why did Palumbo go to Raw? He'd be better on ECW.
I don't... meh... I guess they are trying to push him as a big heel or something.
RedOrb_Collector
06-25-2008, 19:42
But didn't he just lose a feud to a watered down face Finlay?
I know! :lol:
I think everyone will be watching SD!!
RedOrb_Collector
06-25-2008, 21:28
Kofi got drafted to Raw! ECW got screwed!
justintheman99
06-26-2008, 14:16
Hmmm from all of these draft picks I think Smackdown has the more talented roster now in my opinion that is. Heck just for Kennedy alone I will watch Smackdown more than Raw now I imagine.
Kofi Kingston moving to Raw was a bad idea. He is going to get buried there. He was doing so good on ECW. If he wasn't drafted I would say he would face Mark Henry for the ECW title. It's pretty obvious Henry is winning. Shelton Benjamin moving to Smackdown is ok. He should've stayed in ECW. I think of him getting buried with the mid card. There's no way he's going to win the WHC title anytime soon with Edge, HHH, Taker in the main event.
justintheman99
06-26-2008, 15:41
Why does WWE feel it is necessary to BURY ECW? I mean why not try and get this brand off the ground and get those ratings up. Instead as soon as someone blossoms they move them to either Raw or Smackdown. It is really quite sad actually.
Because maybe ECW is that "developmental" brand that he puts all the young stars on e.i CM Punk?
Galvanise_
06-26-2008, 19:59
Because maybe ECW is that "developmental" brand that he puts all the young stars on e.i CM Punk?
Exactly. Its the equivalent of FCW, but it allows talent to competed in televised events.
RedOrb_Collector
06-26-2008, 20:58
But that's why Kofi/Shelton should not have been moved so quickly. They are still developing.
TH3 GAM3
06-26-2008, 20:59
I think ECW is worthless to have. I think they should shut it down IMO.
RedOrb_Collector
06-26-2008, 21:03
Why? Tons of talented up and comers would have no place to go. ECW holds the future of the business.
TH3 GAM3
06-26-2008, 21:07
ECW is BS. Smackdown is making a divas title that means Raw and Smackdown will be equal.
Smackdown:
United States Title
Divas Title
WWE Tag Team Titles
World Heavyweight Championship
Raw:
Women's Championship
World Tag Team Titles
Intercontinental Title
WWE Championship
ECW:
ECW Championship
What's the point for ECW being open anyway?!
ECW is BS. Smackdown is making a divas title that means Raw and Smackdown will be equal.
Smackdown:
United States Title
Divas Title
WWE Tag Team Titles
World Heavyweight Championship
Raw:
Women's Championship
World Tag Team Titles
Intercontinental Title
WWE Championship
ECW:
ECW Championship
What's the point for ECW being open anyway?!
As the poster above you said. ECW is for young wrestlers. If Cody Rhodes was in ECW he would have been champion, but he is stuck in a tag team with Holly. I don't see Rhodes doing anything in Raw and Smackdown! People like CM Punk wouldn't be where they are today if it wasn't for ECW.
Big Daddy V developed his character on ECW.. Big Show got better by going to ECW... CM Punk.... Now Kingston... even though I don't watch ECW, I still thinks it's a good idea to have.
OMFG I can't wait for tomorrow...
Smackdown was OK yesterday.. can't wait to see Jeff and Kennedy wrestle next week.
The opening promo by Edge and HHH was good until Batista came in. I was waiting for a Edge/HHH vs. Batista/Cena tag team match, but I was disappointed.
Ever since Kane took his mask off hes been stale, I wish they would put him back as the big red machine, for me Raw has the better rooster, as I dislike Umaga, both Hardys are way past their prime, tag team matches took a massive hit when they split and the Dudleys left.
The battle royal (before HHH got drafted) was massively in Raws favour.
I also hear JR nearly quit WWE after the draft, he was nearly in tears when he got drafted to Smackdown.
Also is Undertaker coming back at Night of Champions? Cause hes on the poster thing.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7987/nightofchampions2008iq9.jpg
Galvanise_
06-29-2008, 18:44
Also is Undertaker coming back at Night of Champions? Cause hes on the poster thing.
That poster was made before he lost the title. He's coming back in July where he'll interupt Edges and Vicki's wedding.
Fernando9
06-29-2008, 20:33
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg32/Proww_img/Images/poster/Night-Of-Champions.jpgIf you go to wwe.com you'll find EDGE instead of the Undertaker I also found this poster but look at this poster with the former champions btw is Y2J going to defend his tittle or not?
I think that he is...
I can't wait to see another Triple H - Undertaker feud. I haven't seen that in ages.
Fernando9
07-01-2008, 09:02
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/7558166we got a new Champion the World tittle is going to RAW CM Punk stole Edge like when Edge stole the Undertaker
ThaLegendKila
07-01-2008, 17:32
yooo yooo yooo
UNDERTAKER comes back at SUMMER SLAMM! because: edge will leave vicky and the familia...coz of that vicky is pissed off and gets the UNDERTAKER back...so that UNDERTAKER can kick tha *** of EDGE...
TH3 GAM3
07-01-2008, 17:34
Summerslam is so far away. Undertaker is one of my favorite wrestlers and Smackdown is nothing to me without him. I was laughing so hard last night because I seen deja vu. CM punk did an Edge on Edge.
Fernando9
07-01-2008, 21:57
and he'll return with the DEADMAN gimmick ?
RedOrb_Collector
07-01-2008, 23:36
......I don't think Punk is ready to be world champion....
They pushed him to the title way too soon. And they've had him job so much prior to the cash in that they've made him look like a fluke champion. Though...maybe that was the plan anyway, just using him as a means to get one of the World Titles back to Raw without having Trips or Edge lose in a proper title match.
justintheman99
07-02-2008, 00:59
Wow CM Punk as champ. Yikes, this is the best WWE could do in order to get a title on Raw. This guy is still way to green, same as when Orton became champ the first time. They push the titles onto people way to early. In the old days you would have to be part of the roster for YEARS before you would even be considered and those titles TRULY meant something.
TH3 GAM3
07-02-2008, 01:31
......I don't think Punk is ready to be world champion....
They pushed him to the title way too soon. And they've had him job so much prior to the cash in that they've made him look like a fluke champion. Though...maybe that was the plan anyway, just using him as a means to get one of the World Titles back to Raw without having Trips or Edge lose in a proper title match.
Come on ROC, Edge deserves it. How many times did he do that to somebody else?! I remember after the elimination chamber when Cena defended and win his match. Guess who cashes in his briefcase, Edge. He steals the title from Cena so he deserves it to me.
RedOrb_Collector
07-02-2008, 03:08
Come on ROC, Edge deserves it. How many times did he do that to somebody else?! I remember after the elimination chamber when Cena defended and win his match. Guess who cashes in his briefcase, Edge. He steals the title from Cena so he deserves it to me.
What are you talking about? 'Deserves' it? What?
I'm not talking in terms of storyline, I hardly ever do. I'm talking about the person behind the character. I'm talking about a career being built up correctly.
Punk is not ready to hold any world title. He has little credibility because he is constantly booked to lose, he is only passable on the mic, and sloppy in the ring (which is dangerous as he may injure somebody).
When Edge got his first title win he had been built up for years, been through so many angles and gimmicks and held so many midcard titles that his career finally felt complete.
I would have much perfered him to lose it at Night of Champions, the constant cheating on Edge's part was beginning to get annoying and Im glad Batista threw Vikki over the rope, I just wish they would drop that storyline cause shes flatout annoying.
CM Punk, World Heavywieght Champion? WTF? Like someone earlier in this thread said... he is just way too green. I like the way he won it though.
CM Punk, World Heavywieght Champion? WTF? Like someone earlier in this thread said... he is just way too green. I like the way he won it though.
Whats this green talk? Im not good on the wrestling terminology.
Green = Too Fresh/New
And whats up with Cena teaming up with Cryme Tyme? I like it!
CM Punk is far from green, but he wasn't ready to win a WHC title though.
justintheman99
07-03-2008, 04:30
You know many people could bash me for this but I would love to see JBL with the strap on his shoulder. He is such a strong heel and I always enjo a heel as champ, much more entertaining I say. :wink:
You know many people could bash me for this but I would love to see JBL with the strap on his shoulder. He is such a strong heel and I always enjo a heel as champ, much more entertaining I say. :wink:
JBL is lame, he has a face you just have an urge to punch, even if your not the violent type.
RedOrb_Collector
07-03-2008, 20:50
You know many people could bash me for this but I would love to see JBL with the strap on his shoulder. He is such a strong heel and I always enjo a heel as champ, much more entertaining I say. :wink:
I agree. JBL is an awesome heel, he can easily rile up crowds into a mob-like frenzy. He needs a another title reign before he retires for good.
GreenStreet
07-04-2008, 00:00
Hey, (first ever post - thought I'ld post on wrestling thread, been a die hard wrestling fan for 9 years now :D). Just seen that Trevor Murdoch has been released by the WWE - what a waste of a draft pick .
I like Murdoch but his singing gimmick was never going to last but they should have at least re-packaged him because he's got talent .
Oh and yes, another long title reign for JBL would be great. He's a wrestling GAWD, one of the best speakers in the WWE (ok not the greatest shape) but I would love to see him with the world title around his waist if he can get in better shape.
RedOrb_Collector
07-04-2008, 00:06
^ That was one hell of a shooting star press.
Oh and welcome.
GreenStreet
07-04-2008, 10:19
Thanks, sadly my sig of the SSP was removed for being 'big' - what a stingy forum lol ;P
Never mind =]
Hey guys, so like I'm making a PS3 theme, and I was wondering, would you rather have:
an all male theme and an all female theme
or
a mixed theme
Also, any recommendations on which male superstars I should use? I want no more than 10. I wasn't sure about Cena cuz there are a lot of people who are anti Cena, but I'll probably add him anyways.
I pretty much have most of the diva wallpapers ready, so far I have 10. I'm only adding a select few from the current roster. I also plan on adding previous Divas, even those that went to TNA. Your thoughts? Yay or nay?
Chesser19
07-05-2008, 18:36
Hey guys, so like I'm making a PS3 theme, and I was wondering, would you rather have:
an all male theme and an all female theme
or
a mixed theme
Also, any recommendations on which male superstars I should use? I want no more than 10. I wasn't sure about Cena cuz there are a lot of people who are anti Cena, but I'll probably add him anyways.
I pretty much have most of the diva wallpapers ready, so far I have 10. I'm only adding a select few from the current roster. I also plan on adding previous Divas, even those that went to TNA. Your thoughts? Yay or nay?
Maybe you can make one of each (one male, one female, and one mixed).:lol: But it really doesn't matter to me. But if you make a male one you MUST have the Undertaker in it.
aha yeah I'll throw in Chyna for you aha I'm actually leaning towards just a Divas version of the theme
justintheman99
07-06-2008, 21:10
So now that there is so much new talent on Smackdown how would you guys rate this weeks show?
RedOrb_Collector
07-06-2008, 22:11
I thought Smackdown was great this week. Great VIP lounge with Trips as the guest.
Great Fatal Four Way for the US title, and though Kennedy didn't win the match, he was easily the most dominant.
justintheman99
07-06-2008, 22:22
I would LOVE to eventually see a Kennedy vs. HHH feud, but that could still very well be a good ways off.
OWWWWW, I thought no one in here would actually watch SD! but me!
OWWWWW, I thought no one in here would actually watch SD! but me!
After watching the Ladder Match DVD, Im now have so much more respect for Jeff Hardy, I hope he wins the WWE Championship soon.
RedOrb_Collector
07-11-2008, 03:23
I don't really like high spot wrestlers, which is why I'll never be a Jeff Hardy fan.
But that's just me.
OWWWWW, I thought no one in here would actually watch SD! but me!
I watch it sometimes, when im not doing anything friday night.
TH3 GAM3
07-11-2008, 03:30
OWWWWW, I thought no one in here would actually watch SD! but me!
I always use to watch SD before the draft even started. I only watched it for Undertaker.
I always use to watch SD before the draft even started. I only watched it for Undertaker.
Same here one of the reason i watched SD was The Undertaker, now its kinda meh i watch it because of Batista.
TH3 GAM3
07-11-2008, 03:33
Undertaker is going to come back. Some people are saying Summerslam and I'm kind of happy he's coming back.
One thing I've wondered, how come everyone dislikes Cena?
RedOrb_Collector
07-11-2008, 04:19
One thing I've wondered, how come everyone dislikes Cena?
Simple, a lot of people were tired of him being pushed down our throats with his super long title reign. They made him look like friggin Superman and a lot of us just would not buy into it.
But now that they are booking Cena to be more vulnerable and less "omg da champ is unbeatable!!111" I find I can tolerate him a lot better.
Honestly I think Cena is one helluva talented wrestler, but his character just isn't something I can cheer for. The John Cena character is too geared towards children and after living through Stone Cold and The Rock, he just seems like a watered down alternative.
I respect Cena highly though.
Ahh.. I wasn't following wrestling back when Cena first started, so I guess I skipped the 'superman' part, but he is incredibly strong, I believe I watched something with Triple H saying Cena's by far the strongest person hes gotten into the ring with.
My top 5 faviorite wrestlers are as follows:
1.John Cena
2.Triple H
3.The Undertaker
4.Kane
5.Randy Orton
I remember at one of the Wrestlemania's when Stone Cold versed The Rock and the match would go on for hours it was brilliant they would keep using each others finishing move on each other and they would keep kicking out thats why loved it so much and it was so damn funny.:snicker
Undertaker should be no.1 on that list ^^^
d'LO Brown will be fueding with Kane soon
Triple H and Edge are brilliant
Randy Orton will return after Summerslam
CM Punk is awesome
Cena vs JBL sucks.
Not been rude or trolling or anything. But why do people love a sport that is basically a just a scripted pantomine act?. I mean half naked men rolling around hugging each other just don't do it for me.
It's entertainment, and we are all entertained by it. Simple as that.
It's entertainment, and we are all entertained by it. Simple as that.
Fair enough its just that its classed as a sport when it really isn't, just annoys me I guess.
http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/getmecoat.gif
"Wrestling" is a sport. This form of wrestling is made to entertain, and its been that way for YEARS dude.
On a lighter note...
D'LO BROWN IS BAKC@@#(!!!!!!11
http://www.youtube.com/v/lNyMNxN1T4k&hl=en&fs=1
I have respect for the athletics of this huge mofo's, but wrestling is just...
Waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy way way WAY wYa yw wyaway wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYwyyyyyyyyyyyyya aaaaa
Way too cheesy for me! ;)
I liked it back in the 80's before we knew it was fake, or maybe I'm just old. :suspect:
Lethalmind
07-23-2008, 02:02
I have respect for the athletics of this huge mofo's, but wrestling is just...
Waaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy way way WAY wYa yw wyaway wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYwyyyyyyyyyyyyya aaaaa
Way too cheesy for me! ;)
I liked it back in the 80's before we knew it was fake, or maybe I'm just old. :suspect:
I wasn't even born in the 80's and yea I liked it then too. Saw some flashbacks and looked fun. Early 90s was fun. & SoDev you're not that old......
Personally, I think that the late 90s were the best. Best action. Wrestling is nowhere near as good as it used to be sadly.
Lethalmind
07-23-2008, 02:15
Personally, I think that the late 90s were the best. Best action. Wrestling is nowhere near as good as it used to be sadly.
Truthfully it's because they've become more wrapped up in being a business than providing quality entertainment. I stopped way before I found out Kane had a baby with Lita even though it was fake but if I was still watching, that would've killed it for me
Lifes good, I just bought a house... lol.
This is crazy, from 1983... I was only five...
http://www.youtube.com/v/YOgHMGRp4dc&hl=en&fs=1
Lethalmind
07-23-2008, 02:22
OMG Jimmy Supafly Snuka. That was before my time and I love the guy. Like I said that was before WWF was a business
WWE is trying to return to the good ole days of people getting hit by cars and such, but they just can't do it as well as they did in the attitude era (or for you guys, the point where they were deep competition with WCW)
Lethalmind
07-23-2008, 02:33
Boy ain't that the truth. The Rock was on top of his game, Stone Cold Steve Austin had a stunna that I did to my siblings on a regular basis, and Undertaker would wake up every time he got slammed. I love it so much back then. I don't think that could be emulated ever again.
My top 5 faviorite wrestlers are as follows:
1.John Cena
2.Triple H
3.The Undertaker
4.Kane
5.Randy Orton
I remember at one of the Wrestlemania's when Stone Cold versed The Rock and the match would go on for hours it was brilliant they would keep using each others finishing move on each other and they would keep kicking out thats why loved it so much and it was so damn funny.:snicker
Yep i remenber that moment it was epic to say the least.
Personally, I think that the late 90s were the best. Best action. Wrestling is nowhere near as good as it used to be sadly.
1997-2003 were the best years, you have The Rock and Stone Cold in their prime, the three great tag teams, Hardyz, Dudleys and Edge & Christian having tons of ladder matches, Triple H, Undertaker, Kane (With mask), Mick Foley (and the infamous cage match), Kurt Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Brock Lesnar, John Cena just starting in that time.
The new draft is really going to help the WWE get better i saw The Great American Bash this past week and it was pretty good, all last 4-5 matches were really good, this was the 1st PPV after the draft so so far its looking good its going to bring some interesting beefs.
It's Confirmed:
Undertaker vs Edge @ Summerslam in a HIAC match!
RedOrb_Collector
07-24-2008, 06:33
Honestly I'm not that excited for another Taker/Edge match.
It's not that.
1. Hell in a Cell
2. UNdertaker is back
3. Vickie and Edge angle is over!
It's not that.
1. Hell in a Cell
2. UNdertaker is back
3. Vickie and Edge angle is over!
1. Yay.
2. Yay!
3. Yeah ****ing yeah ****ing woo!
:lol:. I am actually starting to like Vivkie now.
:lol:. I am actually starting to like Vivkie now.
My sarcasm meter is off the chart.
I so thought Jeff Hardy was going to win that battle royal, why Khali? he can't wrestle to save his life.
of course..however it's hard for him to be popular again..
What? Jeff? Not Popular? wow.....
Jeff's probably the most popular at Smackdown at the moment.
Wow, we need some life in this thread!
I watched Smackdown last night, and I can't tell you how much I was "pleased". That segment with Edge and Mick Foley was awesome. Just in case you missed it, Mick Foley basically told Edge that, "If the Edge that misses Vickie's toes fight Undertaker @ SummerSlam, you'll be ripped apart. But if the Edge that made the letters 'TLC' famous shows up, it'll be one of the most VIOLENT matches ever (hint hint). Edge then proceeds to knock Mick out, put him on a table, jump on him with a chair, and laugh like a maniac. Good T'V.
justintheman99
08-05-2008, 02:18
That speech by Foley on Smackdown was one of the most amazing pieces the WWE has done in quite sometime. His words were so well planned that they literally gave me goosebumps. Great way to build up that Hell in a Cell match I say.
Seriously, that was golden in just about every way. I say, bring back Foley in the ring. :)
justintheman99
08-08-2008, 23:46
Seriously, that was golden in just about every way. I say, bring back Foley in the ring. :)
As it stands right now Foley may be walking away from WWE very soon as he is apparently VERY unhappy with his announcer position and the constant yelling/criticism from Vince McMahon. Time will tell I guess but Foley is DONE as an in ring competitor.
Yeah, I was just reading about that on Rajah.com. I hope Tazz fills his shoes, that would be an interesting combo - JR and Tazz.
RedOrb_Collector
08-10-2008, 06:04
Lesnar dominated Heath Herring at UFC 87. :)
Pap3rThin
08-10-2008, 06:10
Quick Question:
I don't really watch the WWE anymore, however I'm probably going to start getting back into it again. I was curious, is Kurt Angle back in the WWE or is he still in TNA? He's my favorite wrestler, so I'm curious.
RedOrb_Collector
08-10-2008, 08:54
He's in TNA still. I don't think he's ever coming back to the WWE.
Galvanise_
08-10-2008, 15:08
Yeah I watched a heartfelt interview with Angle the other week, and he reckons he only has a few years left in him. He is also currently training for some MMA.
RedOrb_Collector
08-10-2008, 18:50
He has no chance of success at his current age and condition in MMA.
Kurt, you've lost your mind.
Does anyone have any idea what's in Kane's bag?
what happened to randy ortan?? did he get fired or is he taking time off
Galvanise_
08-13-2008, 23:36
what happened to randy ortan?? did he get fired or is he taking time off
He broke is collarbone and is recovering. He is 'said' to recently have reinjured himself, although I think that is a work.
Undertaker vs Edge was apparently one of the greatest matches ever some people are saying. Check it out. Oh, and he won and chokeslamed him through the ring into fire. :)
justintheman99
08-18-2008, 23:55
Is anyone else disappointed with what Kane had in his bag? I for one was hoping Kane would go back to the old way and start wearing his mask again. :(
Is anyone else disappointed with what Kane had in his bag? I for one was hoping Kane would go back to the old way and start wearing his mask again. :(
Yeah, I was hoping for his mask too, but once he said it wasn't it was obvious it was Rey's.
Im glad Edge has turned, I was sick of the Vikki thing.
MarKoNiO
08-19-2008, 05:04
Damn that was a hell of a match, probably the best I had ever seen, too bad the old man won, Edge had a great perfonmance and was the best of the night no doubt.
I wonder if the going to hell storyline will put Edge away for some time, that would be a shame since he is the best of the WWE right now.
justintheman99
08-19-2008, 17:45
I highly doubt Edge will be away for long. If WWE keeps this guy away then they are truly stupid. I believe Mick Foley when he says Edge is "the best" in the WWE right now. Truly a very gifted individual.
Yes, I Edge is the best in the buisness right now in my opinion. Ever since that Foley speech, I have looked at Edge in a totally different way. Undertaker being back is AWESOME as well. If the WWE keeps Edge away, they are stupid, unless Taker fueds with Triple H and Edge "returns" to screw him over or something.
Kane's new (old) theme music is straight RAW btw.
RedOrb_Collector
08-24-2008, 03:15
I know I'm a bit late on this but Summerslam ruled!
I was sort of pulling for Edge to win and at times he was soooo close to it. Awesome match though, truly awesome.
.....But I honestly thought the Batista/Cena match had more excitement behind it. O_o' And it's funny because I'm not really a fan of either of them (but I respect them both), but I guess that I found it exciting just because it was so hard to predict a winner.
But Batista winning clean....THAT was unexpected and awesome as hell. The way he reversed Cena's top rope leap right into a Batista bomb....wow....
Yeah, I was like... OMFG! I love Batista as much as I did when I first saw the guy.
RedOrb_Collector
08-26-2008, 22:36
Cena's neck is ****ed up. He is having surgery today apparently.
I wish him a speedy recovery.
Wow, Cena - out again!!?!?!?!?!? Jesus Christ. Raw really needs to speed up the return of Pyscho Sid/Sid Vicious then. :)
Fernando9
09-08-2008, 09:38
He has no chance of success at his current age and condition in MMA.
Kurt, you've lost your mind.
I totally agree with you Kurt age wont help him perform quick punches and kicks but it looks like Kurt is an egoholic
justintheman99
09-09-2008, 17:13
Well from what I seen last night it looks like Kane will be returning to the "old" Kane with his mask. I really hope they go through with it as lately Kane is very stale with little to no storyline input at all on the show. Also it seems like now anyone can beat him.
-Torres-
09-09-2008, 17:58
I haven't watched Wrestling for ages but I used to love it, it's a weired way how I started liking wrestling.
My brother was watching the TV and while he was switching through the programs, he then switched to the Wrestling channel, Paul London and somebody else where wrestling, Paul London got the win and I really enjoyed the match and I memorised what day it was on and the channel and then when it was back on, I watched it, does that soung weired?
And I would accept The Rock returning to the WWE, I also would like if Stone Cold Steve Austin returned, I used to love the Rock's and Austin's matches at Wrestlemania, they would go on for ages. :D
Comon' Guys, get this ROLLIN' again!!!!!!
I love Vladmir Kozlov (I spelled it the best I could). This guys doesn't even have to speak, his action does all the work. :)
Kevin Eck of The Baltimore (http://rajah.com/base/node/13499#) Sun has posted an article on TNA star Kevin Nash possibly being WWE-bound. According to Eck, Nash has privately said that he is "planning" to go to WWE, wrestle a year or two, and then retire. Eck did a big interview with Nash a few months ago and was on hand for his appearance at a Maryland Championship Wrestling last month. Nash's TNA contract is set to expire before the end of October and it is unknown if WWE is interested in bringing him back as a performer. On the plus side for Nash, he is good friends with Triple H & Shawn Michaels, and is still on good terms with Vince McMahon. Even though WWE officials told their employees to stay away from people employed to TNA during WrestleMania (http://rajah.com/base/node/13499#) weekend, Kevin Nash was invited to watch the event in McMahon's private luxury suite at the Citrus Bowl
Wow.
Galvanise_
09-15-2008, 15:00
I knew Nash and McMahon were good friends. Hopefully he will come back. He's one of my favourite big guys.
Kevin Nash vs Undertaker - have them both retire at the same time. One match @ Wrestlemania. Have Nash end his streak and BAAAAMM.
:)
ThaLegendKila
09-16-2008, 15:01
oh i'm sorry
take this link: http://www.thewrestlinggame.com/wg.asp?w=396151
justintheman99
09-26-2008, 15:08
Has anyone here ever visited the website rajah.com for wrestling news/info and rumors? Great site I must say. I just wanted to mention that on the site there is a guy named John who writes his own John report on what is happening in the WWE. He usually writes an article once a month. I wanted to post it here for everyone to read as he has some solid good ideas on how to make the WWE that much better.
The premise of this column is simple. I think there are things in World Wrestling Entertainment that need to be altered a bit. I don't claim to know everything. I don't claim to be smarter than Vince McMahon. All I am is a fan of this business for over twenty years with the experience of writing about it for the last decade. These are just suggestions, ideas or critiques on my part because I'm hoping that WWE can recapture the magic that was there ten years ago when they went from nearly going under to succeeding at levels they had never reached before. Staying the course isn't going to work. Change is needed, so as a fan of this business I'm going to do my part to offer up some ideas.
How about a few ground rules? None of the twenty things will involve bringing back a retired star like Steve Austin or The Rock because that's not going to happen. None of them will be something like suggesting they steal Samoa Joe or AJ Styles from TNA because as far as I know both have contracts with them that they wouldn't be able to get out of. What I'm looking at here are realistic things that WWE can do. Some of these things could be considered major happenings, but most of them are just tweaks to current things they already do.
Before I get going, last week I mentioned the 2.6 Raw rating being the lowest in 11 years, which it was, but I forgot to mention that due to the hurricane that hit the Houston area as well as other parts of the US it meant that a lot of homes had no power. That probably contributed to the rating. This week's rating was back up to a 3.1, which is better, but still far from where I think it should be. Thanks to the readers who emailed me about the hurricane causing a lot of people to be without power.
These are not in any order. Why twenty things? Because I had more than ten and thirty's too much, so I decided on twenty. Real creative, huh? Some will be long, some will be short. Enjoy.
Do not end the brand extension anytime soon.
I often get emails (or at least when I wrote more often) from people saying they think the brand extension for a number of reasons that I'm sure the average fan is aware of. I strongly disagree with this assessment. Right now the company has a roster of about 80 people or so and if you cut the brand extension out then that would mean you'd be cutting probably 20 or 30 people, most of whom would be younger talent who wouldn't find time on a show dominated by veterans. I'm even in favor of having the third show, which I'll touch on a bit later.
Turn Batista heel sooner rather than later.
I have to admit I've been surprised at how good Batista has become as a worker. The guy obviously works his *** off and knows how to tell a story in the ring. The thing is I think he's gone as far as he can as a babyface. There's a built in storyline in place with John Cena on the shelf right now and the storyline idea that Batista's the one that injured his neck with his vicious powerbomb. When Cena comes back by the end of the year, he can go straight after Batista, who can say something like he's sorry for what he did. And then the moment he gets the chance, he goes right after Cena again saying that the only thing he's sorry for is that he didn't end his career. Have Batista turn into the monster, put the belt on him if you want and then build the Batista vs. Cena match at WrestleMania 25 as the biggest grudge match. I thought they rushed having their first match at Summerslam, but in hindsight due to the Cena injury it has turned out to be a bit of a blessing in disguise because of the built in storyline they have now.
Less Pay Per View events.
Right now there are 14 PPVs on the WWE calendar for this year. Coming in October is No Mercy on October 5th and then Cyber Sunday on October 26th. Asking people to shell out $40 for each of these shows is a lot because more often than not most PPVs feature rematches from the month before. Nothing seems fresh anymore because of all the PPV events they run. They should go back to 12 events, but in looking at the 2009 calendar they're sticking with the 14 events. It's a shame because One Night Stand is lame with all the gimmick matches while Cyber Sunday's fan interaction idea has lost its appeal. One a month is good. The current setup is too much even if they make money off of most PPVs. It's hurting the quality of the shows, which is something to be concerned about.
Make the secondary title mean something.
I'm fine with how the WWE and World Title are portrayed right now. They mostly do a good job in making them seem like the most important commodity in wrestling. However, ever since the brand extension in 2002 they've done a horrible job in terms of making titles like the Intercontinental or United States titles seem important. Neither belt was defended at WrestleMania this year, yet both champions at the time (Chris Jericho and MVP) were in the Money in the Bank title match. How are you supposed to make the fans care about these secondary titles when WWE as a company doesn't seem to care much about them? The solution is simple. Have the champions defend these titles on TV more and maybe even stick the match in the main event slot one week. More importantly, have the champions defend the titles on PPV. Having titles that aren't treated as something special do nothing for the person holding the belt or the value of the belt itself.
Bring back the sitdown interviews.
Do you remember some of the sitdown interviews back in the day with people like Mick Foley, Steve Austin, Triple H or even the goofy Kane ones where they would spent 3-5 minutes talking to these guys in a setting where they're not in front of a crowd cutting promos? I do and I thought they were very smart. The reason they work is because it looks different than every other interview we see in wrestling these days. I think sitdown interviews happening once a month would be a great idea. I think CM Punk's somebody who would be great in that setting because they can ask him why he doesn't do drugs or drink and why he chose that straight edge lifestyle. How about giving Jeff Hardy the chance to explain how he's a changed man now? They could also give time to the likes of Shelton Benjamin and MVP, both of whom need to get their characters over even more. Is it so much to ask that they devote three minutes to these guys that are the future of the company instead of another squash match featuring the Great Khali? We get it, the dude's big. Let me hear the actual wrestlers talk like normal people talk rather than wrestler speak.
Change the name of the ECW show.
The idea behind calling the show ECW in the first place was because they felt there was some drawing power behind the name. However, when you have a PG rated show called EXTREME Championship Wrestling it kind of goes against what you're telling the kids, no? Furthermore, the significance of ECW was that it featured hardcore matches with chairs, tables, nails and everything else being pretty much legal all the time. In the WWE version of ECW it's a show that features two people that the kids really like in Hornswoggle and Matt Hardy. Speaking of Hardy, when the announcers try to tell us that he spent his life growing up to be ECW Champion they're wrong. He grew up dreaming of being a WORLD CHAMPION. Not the ECW belt in 2008. He's not a world champion yet. He may be one day, but he's not now. Glad that I cleared that all up for those of you that thought the ECW belt meant something. It does not.
So what could you call it? I don't care. Call it Tuesday Night Titans like the old show on USA about twenty years ago. Call it Heat, Velocity, Jakked, Excess or any of those other names you used to have. Just don't call it ECW. The reason they called it ECW in the first place is because one of the highest selling DVDs in company history was the Rise and Fall of ECW one, so they figured if the name did so well on DVD we might as well name a show after it. In theory that idea was fine I guess, but now? It's stupid. There's nothing extreme about the show and nothing on there that reminds me of what ECW was. You've made all the money you could off the ECW name. Time to move away from it.
Do not eliminate the third weekly show.
I like that there's a third show. They need it. It's been a beneficial show for talent like CM Punk, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston and others to develop by giving them time to have longer matches to show their stuff. Like I said above, they wouldn't have as much of an opportunity on Raw or Smackdown with all the star power on those shows. They only seem to get one match per PPV too, so it's not like it's really disrupting anything else. Also regarding the third show, I think it's important to keep it at just one hour. There's no need for another hour. It's fine as it is…well everything but the name at least.
More references to history.
Every time I see the build for this HHH vs. Jeff Hardy match at No Mercy I keep waiting for the announcers to mention that Hardy beat HHH clean in a one on one match at Armageddon last year. It was less than a year ago, so it should be relevant today. Why not mention that Triple H is eager to face Hardy to prove to himself that his lost last year to him was not going to happen again? It's another easy thing they could do in order to help a feud. Instead they ignore it because they assume people forget anything that happened, which is probably why they replay the same things over and over on every damn show. Apparently WWE is so protective of HHH these days that they refuse to acknowledge that he ever loses. They even sent out memos to companies that produce toys and video games telling them to not show the HHH character in a defenseless position. That's weak, but not surprising. Regarding the history thing, last thing I wanted to say is don't treat your fans like idiots. We deserve better.
Bring back a stable.
I don't know about you, but I've always been a fan of stables in wrestling. The Four Horsemen. New World Order. The Hart Foundation. DX. The Corporation. Evolution. Even the ones of lesser stature like the Nation of Domination and the Brood were good more than they were bad. I think they're heading in the direction of a new a stable with the Orton/Dibiase/Rhodes/Manu group where they have second (or third) generation wrestlers working together because wrestling is in their blood. It's the perfect makings of a stable because Orton's the main event guy, Rhodes & Dibiase are the tag team with each guy having the talent to make it at the IC level should they choose to do that and Manu's got the role as the power guy. Before I get emails about it, no, I don't think La Familia on Smackdown was that good. It was Edge and a bunch of cronies. Not a real stable. The pieces are in place for a good stable with the second generation group, so hopefully they make it happen.
Elevate MVP to the main event level.
He's right there sniffing the spot, but he's not there yet. The good thing about being on Smackdown is that their top three babyfaces are veterans with over ten years of experience each with the Undertaker, Triple H and Jeff Hardy manning those spots. That helps the newer guys like MVP, who will benefit from working with them. Fans will look at him differently by being in big time feuds with these guys even if he isn't putting them over. He was a part of that five man scramble match that was considered a main event, but what I really want is a one on one title match to headline a PPV for this guy. I'm not sure if it will happen this year or before WrestleMania, but hopefully it will next year at some point. He certainly deserves it.
Let the announcers be heels again.
Jesse Ventura. Bobby Heenan. Jerry Lawler. The three best color commentators in WWE history. Why? Because their work as heel announcers were fantastic. The Jerry Lawler that's announcing on Raw right now is boring, bland and old. He also sounds exactly the same as Tazz and Matt Striker do because none of them are allowed to have personalities during broadcasts anymore. They're all the same now. I don't get it. I loved the way guys like Ventura and Heenan cheered for the heels like Rude, Perfect, Piper and all the rest because it made me as a viewer hate the wrestler even more because the announcer was a fan of that guy. Lawler was terrific as the heel announcer when Vince McMahon was the top heel. He helped get that character over huge by kissing his *** every single week. The play by play guy is fine as the generic babyface announcer. We don't need two guys like that. Why the change in recent years? It's stupid.
Give names to tag teams.
What separates Cryme Tyme from pretty much all the other teams currently in WWE? Their name makes them sound like a team. Compare that to Rhodes & Dibiase, Hawkins & Ryder, Miz & Morrison, Jesse & Festus and well you get my point. I don't understand how a creative team that's filled with a dozen or so writers can't come up with names for these teams. Every one of them sounds like a couple of singles wrestlers that are teaming up because they have nothing else to do. I hate to keep mentioning the good old days, but there was a time in this company when every team had a name like the Hart Foundation, Demolition, the Rockers, the Legion of Doom, Strike Force, the Killer Bees and so on. Now it appears as though Vince McMahon thinks naming teams is a bad thing. Of course like I touched on with the IC and US titles earlier, I think the tag titles are poorly handled because there's no depth on either show in terms of having actual teams. Belts don't mean that much when there are only two or three teams that can conceivably win them. Restore some credibility to the division by focusing on actual teams that act like teams.
More evil guys like Kozlov and Umaga, less like Snitsky and Knox.
I'm not sure what the consensus feeling is among internet fans with regards to Vladimir Kozlov, but I for one love the guy. I think the way he carries himself is exactly the way a heel should. Not only does he walk like he's a badass, but when they talk about his history as a wrestler it gives him the credibility of being a badass. That's what I mean when I say things like how important it is to inform us of the wrestler's background because otherwise everybody is the same and that's never good. Umaga has gotten over because of his look, but also because he carries himself like a monster. There's no background in his case and the "living in the jungles" type of act is very '80s, yet he's able to pull it off. He works a good style, he has the big moves and the crowds react to him. The Cena/Umaga title feud was one of my most recent favorites even though I never thought Umaga was going to win. Then there are the likes of Snitsky and Mike Knox, who are basically the same guys with nasty facial hair to go along with looks on their faces that make it seem like they're upset they didn't find the toilet, so they had to **** their pants. I'm still amazed that Snitsky has been employed all these years. Congrats to him for his longevity, I guess.
Hire more female wrestlers and less bikini models…unless they can wrestle.
Let me get this straight. When WWE hires women to their company they want them to wrestle. That's fine although to me you're wasting a lot of the women by not pairing them up with males as valets that can generate heat for the wrestler. Anyway, if they do want to hire women to wrestle that's their prerogative and they seem to make it known to the women that they would have to wrestle. With that in mind, do you realize that almost all of the women they hire have little or no formal wrestling training. Does that make sense to you? It would be like a restaurant hiring somebody to be a chef even though they've never really cooked before. Obviously in some cases it has worked out alright, but when you watch a lot of these girls you realize they're models being told to wrestle rather than people that were born to wrestle. I'm a big fan of girls like Maria, Maryse and Layla mostly because they have tremendous physiques (as my boy Borat would say), but none of them impress me in the ring. Compared to Beth Phoenix, Mickie James and Natalya, all of whom have years of wrestling training, they look like they're in a different league.
The idea that you can take any 120 pound woman with a nice *** and turn her into a wrestler is wrong. Some of them should not be in the ring for the richest wrestling company in the world. I'm not saying you should fire them. I'm saying give them characters. What's Layla's character? She felt she's too good for Jamie Noble. In other words, she's a snob. Maria was better as a backstage interviewer that was stupid than being a generic model that wrestles once in a while now. There are dozens of those already and none of them stand out to me. How many of the women have characters that are different than the rest of them? I'd say Beth and Jillian do. Other than that? They're all the same. All the heel girls walk the same, talk the same and wrestle the same. All the face girls are even more generic. Did anybody really notice that Torrie Wilson has been gone for a year? No, because all you've got now, aside from a few of them, are a bunch of Torrie Wilson's. Having one or two generic hot chicks is fine, but having 10 or 12 of them? __LongTerm__ if they are hot. It's a shame because I really think there is some talent in that group. Hopefully Gail Kim does decide to come back to WWE because at least we know she can wrestle.
No more Undertaker cam please.
Anybody see that on Smackdown last week when he choked Chavo backstage and somehow we were supposed to believe that the Undertaker was holding the camera while he choked the man with his right hand. Where was the camera? In his mouth? That was one of the worst scenes I've ever seen in wrestling and I'm somebody that remembers when Heidenreich raped Michael Cole or when Mae Young gave birth to a prosthetic hand. I admire the Undertaker for all he's done in the business, but please don't tarnish the legacy by doing cheesy angles. They're not good for anybody.
Bring back managers.
This one confuses me because my thinking has always been that managers add to the act of a wrestler or team, yet it seems like the people in WWE creative feel that they take away from characters. When somebody like James Mitchell became a free agent after being let go by TNA I thought WWE would snatch that guy up. The man knows how to talk. He'd be perfect for Kane or any other sort of darker character. The Paul Bearer character was a great addition to both Undertaker and Kane when he was with them. Guys like Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Hart and Jim Cornette also really helped the people they were managing. Now the manager role is non-existent especially when it comes to females. Remember Melina's ring entrance with MNM? God, that's still the greatest entrance in wrestling history.
More feuds like Michaels vs. Jericho, less feuds like Kane vs. Mysterio.
You know why Michaels vs. Jericho is clearly the best feud in WWE this year? Because it comes off as real more than anything else on a show that is almost entirely hokey. It started out with Jericho being jealous of Michaels' success basically, so he cowardly attacked him and then the accidental punching of Michaels' wife made it very personal. They have another PPV match this month that's still very fresh because it's a good feud. People want to see them not only because the match quality will be high, but because they are portraying two characters that seem like they legitimately hate eachother. That's what wrestling is supposed to be, right? (I'll probably write more about this feud next week, so I'll stop gushing over it for now.)
Back to the hokey part, how bad has Kane vs. Mysterio been? Out of nowhere they mention that Kane beat up Mysterio because fans cheered for Mysterio. That's worse than the Japanese shampoo commercial feud involving Edge and Booker T. back in the day a bit. The other thing is couldn't they at least film the beating somehow? When we watch WWE shows we see all kinds of crazy camera angles or views that normally we, the viewing public, would never see, yet when Kane supposedly beat up Mysterio there wasn't a camera in sight. And you expect people to care about something like that? Horrible feud even though Mysterio's always going to be one of my favorites.
Sign Christian Cage when his contract is up in November.
The word has come out that Christian's contract in TNA is up in November and there's a possibility that he could return to WWE. If I'm WWE I'd go after this guy hard because not only is he somebody that is talented in all areas (in ring, promos and acting), but you always know he's going to give it his all when he's out there. He won't let you down if you give him the chance to prove himself in a substantial feud. The other good thing is that WWE today is different from when he left a few years ago because they're pushing more smaller wrestlers, which he is, so it gives me hope that if he does re-sign with WWE he might reach that world title level one day. Plus, there's a golden opportunity for him on Smackdown to reunite with Edge again because it would be very fresh seeing as how they've been apart for basically seven years. Bust out the kazoos! While they're at it, signing the "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson couldn't hurt either.
Induct Steve Austin into the Hall of Fame at WrestleMania 25 in Houston.
I think this one is already going to happen although in this business you never really know. The setting would be perfect because he's a Texas native that's been the biggest star in the business on a show where they're celebrating 25 years of WrestleMania. It's also been six years since his last match at WrestleMania 19 against the Rock, so enough time has passed for them to induct him. I really enjoyed last year's Hall of Fame seeing Rock back to induct his father and grandfather as well as the Flair induction, but if Austin goes in this year that would be my favorite HOF moment ever since he's my favorite wrestler ever along with Shawn Michaels. As for one more match? I don't think it will happen. There's no point in risking your health for one more match. Show up at Mania, give some funny heel like Santino the stunner and drink your beer. It's the same effect. We don't need to see another Austin match because the last one was good. No need to tarnish the legacy.
Want to create the next big feud: How about Hardy vs. Hardy?
When Jeff Hardy got drafted to Smackdown I immediately liked the idea because I thought it would lead to a feud with his brother Matt, which would be about as fresh as any feud in the company could be. Then Matt went to ECW and I let out a big groan. Opportunity wasted, I thought. I know that both guys are very popular with the fans and they are especially big with the kids. With that in mind, neither guy is going to have the out of this world, dream feud unless they go up against eachother with one of them (probably Matt) working as the villain. The brother vs. brother angle has money written all over it. We're talking about two guys that have been in the company for over a decade and have never had a real feud against the other. I know they've had a few matches here and there, but a feud? That would be really fresh.
They could start it at the Royal Rumble or maybe even Survivor Series if they're doing the teams with guys from different shows on it. Maybe there's some miscommunication that happens leading to an argument. Then it can escalate form there. In the Rumble you could have them work together to eliminate some people, then Matt can toss Jeff out and claim that it's every man for himself. Think that would get people talking? I do. All this leads to a match at WrestleMania where they're still both babyfaces fighting to see who the better man is. Jeff wins some 15 minute thriller by countering the Twist of Fate into a rollup. Crowd loves it. Post match, when Jeff wants a handshake Matt beats the hell out of him and injures a body part so badly (let's say ankle) that Jeff's out for a couple months. You use that time to build Matt up only for Jeff to return at a time when Matt's in a big match (say a World title or number one contender type thing) and cost him. You could then go another two or three PPVs with gimmick matches between these two. Remember Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart? If you saw it you do because it was one of the better feuds in company history. The brother vs. brother story is very easy to tell and there's no better time to do it than now when the company really needs a spark heading into the new year.
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Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Email me at oratoryjohn@gmail.com and I'll do my best to get back to you as soon as I possibly can. I'd love to read some of your ideas to help WWE because obviously there could have been lots of other things that could have been discussed. Thanks for reading.
Also after reading this I e-mailed John my thoughts on the WWE. Here they are!
Everytime I read about your thoughts I can't help but agree with most of them. My two biggest beefs right now in the WWE is lack of interest in the other titles, while the WWE title and the World title get all the attention. Not too mention that there is no real stable in the WWE. The whole idea around the 2nd generation guys is great, but at the same time as you say with their main eventer Orton, he is not a leader. He is the guy who the others dream of becoming from being in this faction. It will get them all over huge and noticed very well. However, if you ask me the real brains behind it all could be none other than Shane McMahon. Reason? For one he is a McMahon and would have loads of POWER and on the other hand he has something the others don't and that is the fact he is a 3rd generation superstar. To me it just fits nicely.
I also like the comments about the divas. Their in ring abilities is mediocre at best. During their matches I find myself going for food, or changing the channel. It is almost painful to watch, except however when Beth Phoenix enters the ring. She has some mean skills and I just wish there were some Divas that could compete at her level on ring capability. It makes me wish Trish and Lita were still around as they would be able to have some good feuds and matches with this woman. The Divas they have on the roster are nothing but models or Barbie dolls rather with no solid way of selling a good story with Beth.
Also at the same time I am really starting to take notice in Santino Marella as well. This guy has it going on right now and the past few weeks he has been absolutely hilarious in his promos. Not to mention his great web show every week. Perhaps down the line this guy will mold himself worthy of even greater attention.
Now lets go back in time here. What happened to Vince McMahon? Last time we saw him he was involved in an angle where the stage display collapsed on top of him. Is he OK, will he be back? Who knows! I for one am very interested to see what develops out of that as being a viewer I am left hanging. Also at the time WWE blew perhaps one of the greatest storyline angles possible with the whole basterd son angle of Vince McMahon. Mr.Kennedy was so close to being a part of osmething big and perhaps the biggest push of his young career. In fact I was a huge supporter of this idea and was loving how it all took place. Then Kennedy was suspended and instead of putting the angle on hold or building around his suspension they changed the whole idea and ended it with Hornswoggle being his son. COME ON WWE! What a waste of something that could of been superb. Then they changed it again and made it for Finlay to be his real father. *sigh* A great idea not executed properly.
As for the numerous PPV's each year. This is ridiculous as it doesn't give a chance to build up a proper storyline angle. Instead of taking months of building and molding they throw together lackluster ideas for storylines that play out over the span of like 2-3 weeks. The best storyline this year as you say is Jericho vs. Michaels. Why? Because it was built properly with prime execution and also something we never see anymore they made it personal by having Jericho punch Michael's wife in the face.
There you have it my 2 cents, just thought I would share it with someone.
Sincerely,
Justin Harrison
a.k.a Still a huge WWE fan but dwindling by the day.
RedOrb_Collector
09-27-2008, 05:25
I read John's columns at Rajah as well. I agree with a lot of what he says.
Honestly my interest in wrestling is waning sadly. :( I'm starting to switch over to UFC, I'd like to keep them both close though, but I've come to realize that the predictability of wrestling isn't as exciting as actual shoot fights, But even more than that, because of the scripted nature of wrestling, it means that the most talented wrestlers aren't necessarily always pushed or used to their full potential.
At least with MMA, you have direct control over your career. If you are a good fighter, you have success. Simple as that.
I agree, UFC baby.
But I still love my WWE. There's going to be some "revolution" to wrestling in a couple year that changes everything we ever thought about wrastlin'.
justintheman99
09-30-2008, 14:18
Well if you ask me judging by the falling ratings of the WWE, something has to be done here and rather quickly. For me I can create a short list.
- Get rid of so many PPV's each year. With so many it just doesn't help create compelling storyline angles anymore. They happen to fast and they just don't mean anything anymore like they use to.
- Why two babyface announcers? I use to like the days when Jesse Ventura and Bobby Heenan always cheered the heels while Gorilla Monsoon or Jim Ross were the babyface guy. With two "good" announcers it is very hard to buy into the whole heel persona on a wrestler.
- Get some women who can actually wrestle instead of just barbie doll types with huge breasts.
- Create some actual tag teams instead of just putting two guys together. Instead of having a team known as "Insert Name" and "Insert Name" create an actual tag team name and gimmicks for these guys. I remember when those tag titles actually meant something and the tag division was very compelling as well as entertaining. Now it is just a joke with little to NO interest from anybody in the back. They are rarely defended and if they are defended change hands as fast as people's underwear! Remember when Batista and Cena won? What a joke! Are they a tag team....NO!! Please WWE, show this division some actual attention.
- Drop the ECW name as the show is nothing like the "real" ECW. In fact there is not one thing extreme about the whole program.
- Why do they insist on making their Intercontinental champion a complete joke? I know Santino's character is that of a funny man but come on he is a champion. Do have Batista beat him this week on Raw in less than 30 seconds sent me into an outrage. Seems like nowadays WWE focuses all their attention on their World and WWE champions and rarely even notice the others. These belts use to mean something in the wrestling world and now they just seem to be there for show. Intercontinental champions use to be actual "champions" and it would take years of work and dedication to win these titles. Lets look at Bret Hart, Shawm Michaels, Mr. Perfect (Curt Henning), Randy Savage, Rick Rude, and so on. These guys waited years to reach that plateau and now it seems guys can win titles on their first night on the show. Remember how Santino first won the title? The first night we saw him he won. Also lets not forget not that long ago when Carlito first made his appearance on Smackdown and won the U.S. title. These events of the recent past help support my theory of lack of interest by the WWE creative team. I mean there are guys that have been in the WWE for years and have yet to hold a title like that and they give the belt to 2 guys on their first nights in the WWE? Come on that is just plain ridiculous.
- Bring back an actual faction! Gone are the days of DX, nWo, Evolution, and so on. These factions are a great way to help developing stars be mentored by the top dogs in the business today. Also they are great for business as you are either made to love them or hate them. Also it is always nice to see a group of individuals rise up bigger and badder than the actual company that made them.
- Get rid of John Cena's spinner belt. All I can say here is "How can you take a champion seriously who's title looks like that?" (HHH). This belt looks completely fake, however went well with the John Cena character. Much like Austin's old smokin skull belt, which was kept for him and no one else. So why is WWE insisting that John Cena's belt remain? Come on!
So as you can see I agree a lot with what John said in his official report. Now if I had to just use one from my list it would be less PPV's as that would really help out the programming. Make a feud last awhile, become personal, and really mean something. The way it goes now the feud happens over a DUMB reason and ends in 2 weeks? This is crazy talk and the viewers become uninterested in it. Make it feel real like the golden days of wrestling.
RANT OVER!
I agree STRONGLY on the PPVS and Lesser Titles. The US and Intercontinental Championships just don't even seem important anymore. I just don't even know what to say about that anymore, I've beaten it to death.
These PPVs have to stop coming around every 2 minutes! They seem WAYYY less important.
Velvet Sky, all I have to say about the Women's div.
Bring back the regular WWE title as well.. maybe the one they used in the last 90s.
Primo and Carlito baby!
justintheman99
10-01-2008, 14:21
It seems most WWE fans are sick and tired of so many PPV's however there is still always enough people to keep buying them it seems. The way I look at it WWE must be making a bucket load of cash off of these things or else they wouldn't be doing them right? Frankly I can't name one person I know who actually purchases each and every one of them! The price is ridiculous when you think that there are 13 PPV's each year. A bit much? I THINK SO!
Jeff Hardy should be WWE champion, Im highly suprised they still havent given it to him. Was pretty cheap how he got pinned too.
I don't want the belt on HHH anymore, give it to someone else. Please.
This is the HHH we know and love?
YouTube - Jean Paul Levesque vs Alex Wright (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLEILNcwuqI&feature=related)
Please DO NOT double post. Instead EDIT your original post. You have been here long enough to know this. ~justintheman99
justintheman99
10-10-2008, 14:10
That had to be some of the most boring 9 minutes of wrestling I have ever seen. As for HHH as champ how long has it been now? It seems like ages really, but at the same time HHH is "the" top guy on Smackdown. Without him there many up and comers wouldn't have the opportunity to work with him and gain so much experience off of him. I actually believe deep down that the guy to finally beat HHH is Kozlov. They seem to be building something towards that, and maybe he won't beat him from the first match but I think it will come eventually.
Cut some slack, those post were hours apart (I think). Sorry if they weren't.
They need to get rid of that WWE Cena Title belt.. wow. And build some new faces. It's time for Undertaker, HHH, HBK, Kane, ect, to all retire and start a new legacy. In the attitude era, The Rock, HHH, Y2J, ect, were all very young, and they were refered to as the future of the buisness. It's time to start a new legacy. Randy Orton, Punk, Maybe Jeff Hardy, and some new charismatic characters.
justintheman99
10-10-2008, 16:34
At the same time you need good veterans around in order to fully help develop the much younger up and coming talent. That is why these guys are still around, and also the love of the business of course. :wink:
Your right.
Perfect example: Undertaker in the attitude era. LOL, back then he was seen as a "verteran"! He's old as dirt.
RedOrb_Collector
10-10-2008, 17:26
Jeff Hardy is still a potential liability to the company thus far.
He will only get the belt when WWE feels they can trust the guy to not take illegal substances.
Him.. you know what. I'm sitting here watching old videos of the Ministry of Darkness. Edge was in there, remember? The Rated R Superstar? Yeah. Well, a week before that HIAC match a couple months ago, he kept saying something like "We" when referring to their souls (him and the Undertaker).. MOD 2.0??? PLEASE. Ministry Was DOPE man.
Fernando9
10-14-2008, 06:28
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/Headers/8327412
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/wide/images/8283222
Kane vs. Rey Mysterio
Text A to 44993 for Falls Count Anywhere Match
Text B to 44993 for No Holds Barred Match
Text C to 44993 for Best 2-out-of-3 Falls Match
if NHB means Hardcore then i'll vot 4 it
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/wide/images/8295690
Challenger for the WWE Championship
Text JEFF to 44993 for Jeff Hardy
Text KOZLOV to 44993 for Vladimir Kozlov
Text TRIPLE to 44993 for for a Triple Threat Match featuring Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Vladimir Kozlov
vote 4 triple threat
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chooses the referee
Text AUSTIN to 44993 for "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Text ORTON to 44993 for Randy Orton
Text HBK to 44993 for Shawn Michaels
sry HBK & RKO
but
HELL YEAH 3:16
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Challenger for the Intercontinental Title
Text PIPER to 44993 for “Rowdy” Roddy Piper
Text GOLDUST to 44993 for Goldust
Text HONKY to 44993 for Honky Tonk Man
my vote 4 Goldust
:lol:, it's funny how predictable these votes are.
Goldust!
justintheman99
10-14-2008, 13:49
I wish they still had the voting up on wwe.com for free. The fact they are charging now to vote indicates to me that they will receive far less votes then they are accustomed to. Also with the voting on the website us Canadian fans were able to vote also, and now with this change we can't. Many unhappy fans because of this I am sure.
Fernando9
10-14-2008, 16:12
I wish they still had the voting up on wwe.com for free. The fact they are charging now to vote indicates to me that they will receive far less votes then they are accustomed to. Also with the voting on the website us Canadian fans were able to vote also, and now with this change we can't. Many unhappy fans because of this I am sure.
Totally agree with you they would've kept the website voting its also fun even Jerry Lawer used to bring his Laptop at ring side to vote
justintheman99
10-14-2008, 16:18
I read an article somewhere about WWE fans being insanely angry over this move by WWE. Apparently I am not the only one who doesn't think we should HAVE TO pay in order to cast our vote. :wink: I hope the hate mail continues to flow.
I don't vote anyway so whatever. I really do believe those matches are pre-determined.
dc writer
10-16-2008, 04:25
been a while since I posted in this thread. I'm busy filming a movie and haven't been able to keep up with wwe for a while. But I did watch SummerSlam and that HIAC match was crazy with Edge and Undertaker. Also HBK and Jericho Feud is the best thing happening right now. I like how they built up Jericho.
I knew Santino would become one of the main credible second tier superstars. His potential from the get-go was evident. As is Beth Phoenix. I usually route for those big dominent type female wrestlers.
I absolutely love the idea of teaming Rhodes & Dibiase together. Rhodes sucks on his own. At least Dibiase, in my eyes, would make a credible singles wrestler. I hope they don't screw it up.
I don't really visit wrestling news sites anymore. I'd rather be surprised, because honestly, WWE is quite dull right now.
justintheman99
10-16-2008, 13:56
I have made a prediction quite awhile back about something that will happen VERY soon in the WWE. That is of course once Randy Orton is healthy enough to get back in the ring. I believe that WWE is planting some careful seeds over the weeks that will eventually lead to a new faction! One that will involve Rhodes, Dibiase, Manu, and Orton. They will be the "young guns" faction who disrespect their mentors and believe they are better then their fellow veterans. The leader will be Orton as he is a 3rd generation superstar with Dibiase, Rhodes and Manu as the members being 2nd generation superstars. Personally from what I see each week it severely leads me to believe that it will happen. If it does I think it will be a great opportunity for these guys and lead to some great storyline content. At the same time it has been quite awhile since we seen a really good faction in the WWE. The whole "familia" thing with Edge and Vicky on Smackdown doesn't count in my opinion as it was just simply mediocre! I am curious though as to what you guys think about this perhaps becoming a real possibility?
There should be some sort of faction.. but do you think Randy Orton is ready to help build these other wrestlers when he's just getting there himself?
RedOrb_Collector
10-20-2008, 03:23
I'm really loving Kozlov's push, he basically squashed Jeff Hardy this past Friday.
I love Kozlov's push as well. I just wish they'd let him wrestler more though.
justintheman99
10-20-2008, 16:19
There should be some sort of faction.. but do you think Randy Orton is ready to help build these other wrestlers when he's just getting there himself?
Kudos to me if this actually happens! :wink: As for Orton a faction like this will really help push him even further as one of "the top" guys on Raw. In my eyes he is already there, but I am sure for a lot of the older veterans in the back they think differently. This will really give Orton a challenge in working with these guys. All 3 of them have great skills (especially Dibiase) and will become great competitors. A faction between them will help them achieve that status in a great way where they can all learn from each other as well as Orton. Plus with Orton's role it will help develop him more into a dominant role as he would be the leader of this group. If you ask me it is a total win-win situation all around for everyone, and I still fully believe it will happen sooner than later. So lets stay tuned!
I agree if you put it that way! But, this is the most significant problem with todays WWE:
MARKETING TOWARDS KIDS!!!
That's Vince McMahon's goal - to appeal to freakin' kids. Maybe if they went back to a PG-15 audience, things would be so much better like 1997-2001, maybe even up to 2005.