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It is indeed written for children. And if you're very, very lucky, you get a hint of something that is more adult-orientated.
By the way, I loved it earlier when that fan shouted to Jericho "Go back to Toronto!", and he shouted back, "I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot!" :lol:
The Cage
11-23-2009, 04:05
Survivor series was amazing especially the last match [HBK vs cena vs triple h]
too bad HBK didn't win but i really enjoyed that match a lot , overall the ppv was great
cheers
Awful. It's been 7 years since his last title run and he is 100x better than Cena. When will WWE wake up and actually do something with Michaels?
The Cage
11-23-2009, 04:18
Awful. It's been 7 years since his last title run and he is100x better than Cena. When will WWE wake up and actually do something with Michaels?
You are SO right , :(... HBK is my favorite since i was like 8 years old .. the last title he won (i think) was a Ellmination Chamber few years ago
Awful. It's been 7 years since his last title run and he is100x better than Cena. When will WWE wake up and actually do something with Michaels?
Held yeh been that long but about 2 years ago him and Jericho where at it hard and chericho was champ. Never won but man that ladder match was sick. Thing is Shawn wants to retire and spend time with his kid and family. dude got mad money but WWE still wants to use em. This past wrestlemania was suppose to be his finale but cause HHH didnt wanna step down they brought him back. Now wrestlemania will have them 2 wrestle cause ppv will start the break up and fued. Hoenstly WWE is to predictable now.
Awful. It's been 7 years since his last title run and he is100x better than Cena. When will WWE wake up and actually do something with Michaels?
To be fair, I hear that Michaels believes the champion should always be on the road, and I don't think he's on the house shows too often so he can spend time with his family and in church.
He's elevated Legacy so far, hopefully he continues to elevate the younger talent. On my SvR story, I'm gonna have him teaming with Evan Bourne, but it'd be nice if he elevated Miz or the like.
Held yeh been that long but about 2 years ago him and Jericho where at it hard and chericho was champ. Never won but man that ladder match was sick. Thing is Shawn wants to retire and spend time with his kid and family. dude got mad money but WWE still wants to use em. This past wrestlemania was suppose to be his finale but cause HHH didnt wanna step down they brought him back. Now wrestlemania will have them 2 wrestle cause ppv will start the break up and fued. Hoenstly WWE is to predictable now.
If he wants to retire, or if he doesn't want to win the title, why do they keep teasing his fans by putting him in 100s of title matches? The last time he won the title was at the 2002 Elimination Chamber, and since then he must have been in about 100 title matches (no exageration). He would make such a better Champion than Cena or even Triple H for that matter, yet they screw him over every time. I payed the £15 with hope that the WWE might have done something right for a change, but no. It was too predictable. That's it now, I'm not going to bother watching it anymore.
Watching the SS replay now on Justin.TV.
I lol'd hard at the Christian promo. That was hilarious.
yourmumsface17
11-23-2009, 11:50
Watching the SS replay now on Justin.TV.
I lol'd hard at the Christian promo. That was hilarious.
Can you link me please
http://www.justin.tv/jaiali
EDIT: Kofi v Orton just finished. We're on the SD main event now, then Divas, then Raw.
yourmumsface17
11-23-2009, 12:10
http://www.justin.tv/jaiali
EDIT: Kofi v Orton just finished. We're on the SD main event now, then Divas, then Raw.
Thanks +rep
LastManDancing
11-23-2009, 13:24
So i'm watching Survivor Series and I just want to say Drew Mcintyre is bad, really bad.
So i'm watching Survivor Series and I just want to say Drew Mcintyre is bad, really bad.
I quite like him. Has a good, ruthless character, and I enjoy the way he shows it when he has a match.
What's your opinion on him?
three3-times
11-23-2009, 14:58
I'm looking forward to more Orton vs. Kingston going forward. It's the best thing in WWE right now. Asides from the always suberb Y2J.
edit...did u lot know that WWE signed Nigel McGuiness and Bryan dainelson awhile back. (two AWESOME REAL wrestlers from ROH)
Well WWE dropped the ball with Nigel and he joined TNA under the name desmond wolfe and is an AWESOME feud with Angle
three3-times
11-23-2009, 15:15
tna = wack promos, great wrestling, and blood!!
wwe = good promos, occasionally good wrestling and PG
I'm looking forward to more Orton vs. Kingston going forward. It's the best thing in WWE right now. Asides from the always suberb Y2J.
edit...did u lot know that WWE signed Nigel McGuiness and Bryan dainelson awhile back. (two AWESOME REAL wrestlers from ROH)
Well WWE dropped the ball with Nigel and he joined TNA under the name desmond wolfe and is an AWESOME feud with Angle
McGuiness, who I've heard so much about, is Desmond Wolfe? I didn't know, and I didn't know WWE signed him, I thought they only signed Dainelson.
Loving that Wolfe/Angle feud too by the way. Wolfe looking very credible despite his size (plus he looks too much like Chris Daniels, who I don't like), but I do like his mic work. A lot.
EDIT: stealth edit
santinomarella
11-23-2009, 16:33
I heard McGuiness failed some sort of test, which is why he never officially signed with WWE.
Survivor Series was pretty poor to be honest. The only highlight was pushing Kofi more with the win. I think that guy can be really good. He needs a theme change though. He's not the happy and jolly soul anymore - he's more of a badass which is pretty cool.
I think the main event could have been pretty awesome if the competitors were different and guys we actually all like. It had quite a bit of drama and everything, and I think I really would have enjoyed it if it was anyone other than Cena, H or Michaels.
santinomarella
11-23-2009, 18:51
The match had its good moments, like the HBK super kick on HHH at the start but the match would have gone down as a lot more memorable if Shawn Michaels won it!
I wouldn't then of minded a feud between HHH and HBK for the title as it hasn't happened in a while and would also mean the end of DX. It would also be cool if Cena could feud with someone new and give another star a chance to shine, like the Kofi and Orton feud, perhaps Cena could help elevate the status of Jack Swagger.
Don't know about Jack Swagger. He doesn't seem to go over with the crowd that much I feel. But if they thrust him into a big title match, people may take to him.
LastManDancing
11-23-2009, 19:39
I quite like him. Has a good, ruthless character, and I enjoy the way he shows it when he has a match.
What's your opinion on him?Whole match the guy did two wrestling moves (His finisher twice).
The wrong two people survived that match alongside The Miz, but I guess it's all about balance since Bourne, Ziggler, and Swagger had a great opening start.
If he wants to retire, or if he doesn't want to win the title, why do they keep teasing his fans by putting him in 100s of title matches? The last time he won the title was at the 2002 Elimination Chamber, and since then he must have been in about 100 title matches (no exageration). He would make such a better Champion than Cena or even Triple H for that matter, yet they screw him over every time. I payed the £15 with hope that the WWE might have done something right for a change, but no. It was too predictable. That's it now, I'm not going to bother watching it anymore.
Thats what WWE does tho. Lets be honest they have what 2-3 real big superstars who always fight for belt per show? Yeh Survivore series proved that WWE is just a rehash, boring show now. Cena wins and HH hurts shawn, yep called it.
I like Drew McIntyre, because he's British, and I'm holding out for him to actually become a top champion, since they keep going on about it - but I doubt it'll happen.
But I have to admit that so far he has hardly done any good moves whatsoever. For me, his finisher is his best move. I hardly saw the match he was in last night, so I don't know how he did, but other than that he's hardly been in matches as his fights with Finlay on Smackdown just end instantly.
By the way, Raw starts an hour early tonight - so in a few minutes. It's a three hour show.
Yeah, Drew hasn't shown his wrestling much, but he hasn't been put in a good singles match yet. Him and Finlay are always going to be a brawl.
And I like him anyway, I think Brawlers have their place in the ring, especially when his character is quite badass so far. We'll see in the future if he has more in his arsenal, but I like early signs.
Thats what WWE does tho. Lets be honest they have what 2-3 real big superstars who always fight for belt per show? Yeh Survivore series proved that WWE is just a rehash, boring show now. Cena wins and HH hurts shawn, yep called it.
Cena loses => people complain titles switch hands too much removing credibility
HHH hurts Shawn: Shawn started it!! Nah, but I'm excited to see what'll happen with DX.
Demon2005
11-24-2009, 02:04
hey who won the Undertaker triple threat?
...this is gonna be a great Raw. DX vs. Hart Dynasty? Punk vs. Cena? Sexy matches.
^Poster above, Taker won it.
Pretty good Raw to be honest. The guest hosts who actually know their stuff about wrestling have always done the best jobs.
I wish that Jesse Ventura would become the proper GM. He was brilliant! I loved the way he highlighted the corruption and everything. I'm actually rooting for Sheamus.
It was a shame that Mickie James never even got involved in the match. And it's good to have lovely Maryse back.
It was a shame that Mickie James never even got involved in the match. And it's good to have lovely Maryse back.
Ughhh cant see eye to eye with you on Maryse. She is the poster child for "divas have no talent just looks" I do miss the "DIva glory days" of Victoria(when she was crazy) Trish Stratus. Thier matches where unbelivable. Molly Holly was good to. Always thought she was the most unique diva in both her looks and ring style.
three3-times
11-24-2009, 08:49
So sheamus gets a title shot?? i dont mind someone new in the title pic, but this just reeks of HHH pushing the guy. HHH has said in numerous interviews that Sheamus is destined for great things, is his favourite new guy etc and rides him on the road..........
Maryse is back!
Anyone else see the pretty good shot of her backside when she was getting out of the chicken suit! She had to pull her shorts right out of her crack!!
I have Sky + so i watched it back a few times.
Ughhh cant see eye to eye with you on Maryse. She is the poster child for "divas have no talent just looks" I do miss the "DIva glory days" of Victoria(when she was crazy) Trish Stratus. Thier matches where unbelivable. Molly Holly was good to. Always thought she was the most unique diva in both her looks and ring style.
I'll admit that she's not the greatest wrestler, but her antics make me laugh. That, and the fact that she's pretty damn hot is what I like about her.
Maryse is back!
Anyone else see the pretty good shot of her backside when she was getting out of the chicken suit! She had to pull her shorts right out of her crack!!
I have Sky + so i watched it back a few times.
Yeah, that was pretty sweet.
yourmumsface17
11-24-2009, 15:43
'This thanksgiving santino wants breasts... of turkey off course'
:lol:
'This thanksgiving santino wants breasts... of turkey off course'
:lol:Ha!
It was hilarious when he owned Vickie :lol:
So sheamus gets a title shot?? i dont mind someone new in the title pic, but this just reeks of HHH pushing the guy. HHH has said in numerous interviews that Sheamus is destined for great things, is his favourite new guy etc and rides him on the road..........
Perks of being married to Bosses daughter, get to push who ever you want into title picture.
If this is the case I'm a little surprised at this thought of push from Triple H. It's unusual for an international wrestler to get a chance, but of course I'm not saying that this has never happened, what with Bret Hart, Yokozuna and some others.
It's all good that someone new is getting a chance, I just wasn't aware that Triple H was backing Sheamus. It would have been nice if someone totally new and fresh got a chance, based on their ability and work rate. Ah well... It's not Sheamus is going to win, surely...
I thought old Drew McIntyre was going to be involved last night.
To be fair to Sheamus, there weren't too many other eligible people. I'd say the eligible ones were Sheamus, Swagger, and Legacy. Legacy wouldn't have been good because of the face turn for Ted, putting a title match in the middle of that wouldn't be too clever (though I would've loved it!) and Swagger can't make Cena look like super Cena.
Then again, I like Sheamus, so maybe I'm biased.
My brother and I thought that DiBiase was going to get it just to promote The Marine 2 (which looks crap again by the way).
justintheman99
11-24-2009, 23:47
Who else loved hearing Ventura and McMahon doing commentary again? That is what announcing wrestling is all about, and they proved that last night as it was the best announcing I have heard in ages! Bring back the joking/insulting side of announcing!
My brother and I thought that DiBiase was going to get it just to promote The Marine 2 (which looks crap again by the way).
It would've been nice, but DiBiase getting a title shot would only keep him heel longer/make him a bigger heel, which ruins the slow turn. Because he's against Cena.
Swagger can't make Cena look like super Cena.
Thats how they always promote Cena. Renimber first title rain on raw when he fought all the guys like big show, khale, umanga, umanga in a no dq and such and he won everyone of em. He dosent suck and have no talent like 80% of the people say lol.
santinomarella
11-25-2009, 02:20
Who else loved hearing Ventura and McMahon doing commentary again? That is what announcing wrestling is all about, and they proved that last night as it was the best announcing I have heard in ages! Bring back the joking/insulting side of announcing!
I was never watching wrestling when the two of them were commentating, but I've seen a lot of classic matches on vintage collection where the two were announcing so I was actually quite excited when I heard they were gonna announce a match and thought they were much better than Cole and King!
Ventura needs to come back full time as either Raw GM or announcer!
Thats how they always promote Cena. Renimber first title rain on raw when he fought all the guys like big show, khale, umanga, umanga in a no dq and such and he won everyone of em. He dosent suck and have no talent like 80% of the people say lol.
I remember quite clearly. Hated it lol. That was probably when WWE was at its least interesting.
I don't know what you said, if Cena does suck, or doesn't suck, but I put his 'sucking' down to poor booking. I don't actually think he sucks in the ring, a little bit predictable, but that's a problem for everyone nowadays except for some like Kofi and Punk.
I remember quite clearly. Hated it lol. That was probably when WWE was at its least interesting.
I don't know what you said, if Cena does suck, or doesn't suck, but I put his 'sucking' down to poor booking. I don't actually think he sucks in the ring, a little bit predictable, but that's a problem for everyone nowadays except for some like Kofi and Punk.
Cena has gotten alot better in the ring. Back during the time I spoke of tho he was 3 move Cena. The time he was champ and was 3 moves the crowed always shouted "Cena sucks" check out some old raw footage. I laughed so hard. honestly if they turned him heel during that time it would have been golden.
justintheman99
11-26-2009, 12:38
Bring back Ventura to the Raw announce team and kill Michael Cole!
I love this:
http://cenahasnovariety.ytmnd.com/
justintheman99
11-26-2009, 13:22
Cena is great on the mic, and building hype for his matches.
He fails miserably at carrying a match, selling moves, and building chemistry in the ring and being unique. So to me the negatives out weigh the only 2 positives.
three3-times
11-26-2009, 13:42
Smackdown results...its just as i feared with Batista
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-spoilers/wwe-smackdown-taping-results-november-27-2009.php#
edit...just my thoughts on raw
Are you kidding me?
I liked this show to start off with. But, are you kidding me?
We want a fresh main event picture. Hell, even Ventura mentioned the stale crap at the start of the show. They’ve been building Kofi up the past few weeks, which led me to believe Kofi was finally going to arrive.
So who do they give us? Sheamus. Sheamus. Me Lucky ****ing Charms. Seriously, Sheamus? It’s like having a hot chick at the bar (the potential for a fresh main event). She’s looking good. Things are going well so you decide to make your move (starting a tournament with people that haven’t been champion). Luckily, she agrees to go back to your place (Kofi getting into the battle royal). The pace is picking up and you think it’s your time to get lucky (Kofi eliminating Orton). She’s got a nice rack and you think it’s your time to score with some big knockers. Then, you get her bra off and find out it was a push up, that she has a little bitty rack (Sheamus winning). That’s pretty much how I felt when Sheamus won.
Only cos HHH has bigged him in interviews etc. This is one time i want Cena to win
Bring back Ventura to the Raw announce team and kill Michael Cole!
I wish Sheamus had actually owned Cole when Cena brought it up at the end of the show.
justintheman99
11-26-2009, 19:14
I would of preferred if Kofi faced Cena, but at the end of the day I am just happy someone else is finally in the title mix! Plus, we all know Orton would not of won as he is scheduled to start a feud with Dibiase in the very near future.
I would of preferred if Kofi faced Cena, but at the end of the day I am just happy someone else is finally in the title mix! Plus, we all know Orton would not of won as he is scheduled to start a feud with Dibiase in the very near future.
Yeah. Even though Triple H is behind Sheamus with all of this, at least it actually is someone new for once.
Kofi will get his time. He's in the middle of a SWEET feud with Orton - breaking that up would have people complaining as well. Not to mention he's a face. He's a face, Cena's a face, and Cena's not the best at getting people over with the crowd, especially faces.
He'll get his time. Meanwhile, I'm hoping Sheamus can show a little bit of character during this feud.
Well thanks to WWEs stupid booking, he only has two weeks to impress.
yourmumsface17
11-26-2009, 21:00
Well thanks to WWEs stupid booking, he only has two weeks to impress.
...and thanks to WWE's greef o having a ppv once a week it seems..
no time to build a decent feud no time for nothing, as you have said only 2 raws before the PPV how can they build the feud up there? I'm guessing Cena may get better of him this week and then Sheamus the week after...
I remember the days where there werent as many PPVs and it used to seem like the feuds within the ppvs seemed really good, but now we either get a re run of the previous one or a bunch of people who have barely feuded
Yeah. They really used to build up feuds really good before. I was so hyped for WrestleMania 17, and the Smackdown before the event was awesome with The Rock and Stone Cold just battling it out against each other, with neither really getting the upper hand to indicate a potential winner.
Nowadays, the person who last gets owned on the last show before the PPV ends up winning. So I can see your theory of Sheamus getting the last laugh on the weekly shows coming true.
I remember the days where there werent as many PPVs and it used to seem like the feuds within the ppvs seemed really good, but now we either get a re run of the previous one or a bunch of people who have barely feuded
Yep. Downfall started when WcW got big, started doing more ppv so WWE made shows called "in your house" ppv. They usualy happened every other month sense big PPV happenes every 2 months. Had soe unique matches, not big rivals. In fact they use to hold the rivals till the big ppv.
Kingpin326
11-26-2009, 21:22
Who else loved hearing Ventura and McMahon doing commentary again? That is what announcing wrestling is all about, and they proved that last night as it was the best announcing I have heard in ages! Bring back the joking/insulting side of announcing!
I loved it!
This is how commentary should be done.
yourmumsface17
11-26-2009, 21:25
Yeah. They really used to build up feuds really good before. I was so hyped for WrestleMania 17, and the Smackdown before the event was awesome with The Rock and Stone Cold just battling it out against each other, with neither really getting the upper hand to indicate a potential winner.
Nowadays, the person who last gets owned on the last show before the PPV ends up winning. So I can see your theory of Sheamus getting the last laugh on the weekly shows coming true.
Yeh love Wrestlemania 17! I love it aswell where neither get upper hand always leaves you so perplexed lol!
But yeh as you said the last laugh before the ppv is screwed lol .. ie Jericho was last standing smackdown before survivor series I think Rey had the upper hand over Big Dave..errm bound to be a couple others
Who do you think will win the tag titles? I'm starting to think DX may take them leading for one to turn on other before WM and maybe Jericho winning the Rumble (please God please, he deservers it more than anyone right now)
Tag Titles, I think it'll be DX. Which is good for two reasons - keeping Triple H out of the title scene and putting Jericho in it. No idea what they would do with Show though.
Heavyweight again for Show?
At least a contender?
Heavyweight again for Show?
At least a contender?
Possibly, but his last program with Cena was kind of lackluster. I guess I've liked Show best when he was in a tag team - Kane or Jericho. Only thing I can see for him at the moment aside from Cena vs. Show is something involving Mark Henry, and I don't know how interesting that's gonna be. I did like them in the ring before in the tag matches though, even though they were slow - Big Man vs. Big Man is interesting sometimes.
Not quite sure who will win, but JeriShow have had the titles for a while now. Although the two are rather funny together, I think it's only a matter of time before they drop the titles, as it seems they have loggerhead moments quite often.
I hope the match at TLC is a good one. The way Shawn Michaels announced it on Raw was like... "Yeah... That is the name of the PPV afterall..." :lol:
The Cage
11-27-2009, 10:18
Tag Titles, I think it'll be DX. Which is good for two reasons - keeping Triple H out of the title scene and putting Jericho in it. No idea what they would do with Show though.
i think DX will win the tag titles and show and jericho will split
three3-times
11-27-2009, 11:10
Big Show is injured so they will defo be splitting and hopefully Y2J can get back into the World title hunt.
Though it looks like they are gonna put the title on Batista now that hes the No1 contender
A few thoughts and facts I was reading yesterday:
The video about Mickie James from Smackdown last week was apparently made by the WWE as they want her to concentrate on wrestling, rather than following her path of wanting to get into country music, I believe - pretty low of them.
They're strongly considering John Cena and Undertaker for WrestleMania 26. It will suck bigger than Shawn Michaels trying to beat Taker if Cena does it.
They've apparently scrapped the idea of CM Punk and Rey Mysterio in a hair vs mask match for Mania... WTF!?
A few thoughts and facts I was reading yesterday:
The video about Mickie James from Smackdown last week was apparently made by the WWE as they want her to concentrate on wrestling, rather than following her path of wanting to get into country music, I believe - pretty low of them.
They're strongly considering John Cena and Undertaker for WrestleMania 26. It will suck bigger than Shawn Michaels trying to beat Taker if Cena does it.
They've apparently scrapped the idea of CM Punk and Rey Mysterio in a hair vs mask match for Mania... WTF!?
I'm not gonna put this reply on spoilers, cause I don't consider them as such:
1. I don't believe that - it wouldn't make sense. If that were true, the video would only drive her away - I don't see how any single sane person would think it were a good idea. Then again, these ARE wwe writers.
2. Hah. Undertaker's unbeaten record vs. Cena's... unbeatatbility? Cena would get an unbelievable amount of heat though, might make a nice heel turn for him. Plus, any internet site related to the wwe would explode.
3. Rofl. I can't even imagine. It'd be a good feud, but weird stipulations. Punk bald would be... really strange.
The Cage
11-27-2009, 12:31
seriously we got enough of cena we need some new faces in the picture
justintheman99
11-27-2009, 12:42
If Cena beats Taker the fans will riot.
three3-times
11-27-2009, 14:00
Plan atm is for batista to get the title at the rumble and carry it through to WM. So batista gets to headline a WM AGAIN, he so doesnt deserve it. Who is gonna go up against him as a face???? Edge maybe if he can recover in time??? Morrison (i wish!!)
Where does that leave Y2J???
I think we will see taker vs cena at WM
sadly I belive cena vs taker at wrestlemania. far as out come im split. Taker been wanting to retire for a while know due to his various injures so he may go one more round at wrestlemania, if cena is the champ taker will likley lose, or could win go one last round on raw(sense he been smackdown sense start) have one last big match maybe sumemr slam and call it a caeer, or if cena is not the champ(not liley to happen) Taker will win and call it a career.
I'm not gonna put this reply on spoilers, cause I don't consider them as such:
1. I don't believe that - it wouldn't make sense. If that were true, the video would only drive her away - I don't see how any single sane person would think it were a good idea. Then again, these ARE wwe writers.
2. Hah. Undertaker's unbeaten record vs. Cena's... unbeatatbility? Cena would get an unbelievable amount of heat though, might make a nice heel turn for him. Plus, any internet site related to the wwe would explode.
3. Rofl. I can't even imagine. It'd be a good feud, but weird stipulations. Punk bald would be... really strange.
Yep. I wouldn't put it past them. You can't really trust anyone backstage in this business.
Forgot to mention that apparently they're upset with Mickie's weight also. They believe she should lose some...
The Cage
11-27-2009, 14:09
I think y2j will be the champ so Edge can get back and face him
I think it'd be pretty awesome for Jericho and Edge to have a feud. Both are great and are so charismatic. The promos alone have the potential to be ****ing awesome!
Forgot to mention that apparently they're upset with Mickie's weight also. They believe she should lose some...
Thats what happened to Cherry. Gave her grief about weight and she left. Man renimber back before Diva days they had bodybuilder women, and more heavier women. Bertha Fey and Medausa comes to mind. Thos 2 had a fued. Thats why I like TNA knockouts. Good variety even tho they still got thos "just for looks" girls that couldnt wrestle out a wet paper bag.
The Cage
11-27-2009, 14:16
I think it'd be pretty awesome for Jericho and Edge to have a feud. Both are great and are so charismatic. The promos alone have the potential to be ****ing awesome!
Oh yeah i agree :)
Ah I always like the looks, as I'm sure any guy does. But yeah I like the ones that can actually wrestler or at least show potential, like Eve Torres. I think she's trained up pretty good and hopefully she'll just get better and better. However, now being on Raw, she hardly gets a chance to fight.
Candice Michelle also impressed me before when she could suddenly wrestle. Same with Trish Stratus.
I'm glad Maria hasn't been wrestling lately...
three3-times
11-27-2009, 14:26
Taker will NEVER lose that streak. Simple.
If the plan is right, then taker wont be dropping the belt till the rumble, so dont see where Y2J can fit in for a title run. If Edge returns, he will feud with Y2J, but then who is facing Batista at WM. IF, IF this is true??
justintheman99
11-27-2009, 15:06
Edge vs. Y2J at Mania has the possibility to be great if built into a huge feud.
Cena vs. Taker = mediocre.
Michaels vs. Morrison = win.
CM Punk vs. The Miz (Don't ask why I am thinking this but I think it may happen, as Punk is not even sniffing at the main title picture anymore. I think it could be great to be honest.
The Cage
11-27-2009, 15:12
"Michaels vs Morrison " that is really going to be a very very interesting match if it happens
three3-times
11-27-2009, 15:15
thats Justins wish for WM!!! mine too, but the only way i can see it happening is one of them elimanate one another at the rumble, then they can build on it.
justintheman99
11-27-2009, 15:18
If they did have a match it would EASILY steal the show. If I built my entire dream Mania I would not include HHH, Batista, or Cena.
If they did have a match it would EASILY steal the show. If I built my entire dream Mania I would not include HHH, Batista, or Cena.
I would.
HHH vs. Batista vs. Cena in a triple threat match as the dark match.
:snicker
More rumour news:
The next issue of Inside Wrestling features The Rock and John Cena on the cover of the magazine with a headline reading: "Hot WrestleMania Rumor - John Cena vs. The Rock." The sister publication of Pro Wrestling Illustrated claims that the "mega-bout is closed to being signed."
The article's synopsis reads: "The relationship between The Rock and John Cena is strange. Cena respects all The Rock has accomplished yet seems to resent it at the same time. That is why "The Champ" is pining for a match with The Rock at WWE's showcase event. Word is, this mega-bout is close to being signed."
To view the cover of the magazine, visit www.pwi-online.com (http://www.pwi-online.com/). The issue hits newsstands December 8, 2009.
Source: PWS Forums (http://pwsforums.com/showthread.php?t=142564)
justintheman99
11-28-2009, 00:50
The Rock vs. ANYONE = win. Greatest guy in all categories of all time, accept for the pure technical wrestling of course. :wink:
Something to look forward to in TLC:
Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin in a ladder match. Immense.
More rumour news:
The next issue of Inside Wrestling features The Rock and John Cena on the cover of the magazine with a headline reading: "Hot WrestleMania Rumor - John Cena vs. The Rock." The sister publication of Pro Wrestling Illustrated claims that the "mega-bout is closed to being signed."
The article's synopsis reads: "The relationship between The Rock and John Cena is strange. Cena respects all The Rock has accomplished yet seems to resent it at the same time. That is why "The Champ" is pining for a match with The Rock at WWE's showcase event. Word is, this mega-bout is close to being signed."
To view the cover of the magazine, visit www.pwi-online.com (http://www.pwi-online.com/). The issue hits newsstands December 8, 2009.
Source: PWS Forums (http://pwsforums.com/showthread.php?t=142564)
always belived Cena was a cheap rip off of rock. I doubt this will be true because the Rock body is "dysfunction" somethign about when he stope taking steroids or some other drug his body went through a very abd change. kinda why you always see him wear shirts now. What ever it is apperantly in The Rundown you can see it at one point.
Something to look forward to in TLC:
Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin in a ladder match. Immense.
That sounds like it has great potential.
The Cage
11-28-2009, 15:19
I would.
HHH vs. Batista vs. Cena in a triple threat match as the dark match.
:snicker
What about HBK ? ... i would remove batista and have them go at it again :P
Mickie's interview on Smackdown - when she kept referring to "They" and "Them", I wonder if she actually meant the WWE :p
three3-times
12-01-2009, 15:21
So last Monday’s (23/11) RAW was a pretty weird one! I loved the concept of a breakout tournament to determine a new number one contender and I love that RAW creative have finally picked up on what the fans have been complaining about for so long. However to have Sheamus win the thing only six months into his WWE career is questionable to say the least and makes me wonder how much this has to do with his friends in HHHigh places rather than his actual ability. Don’t get me wrong I think Sheamus is very solid in the ring but the guy has never held one title so far in WWE and besides pinning Morrison at Survivor Series, his next best accomplishment was overcoming Goldust in a long running feud on ECW and now this guy is challenging John Cena in the main event of a pay per view? I really like that WWE are giving us something new and fresh but on RAW you have guys like MVP, Swagger, The Miz and Carlito who are all former or current mid card title holders who would have been a much better choice to go against Cena. I mean imagine how these guys must be feeling, after busting their asses for years and working their way up, a guy comes in and kisses Triple H’s *** an d gets a title shot within six months? If that happened to me in my job I would be pissed and I bet the likes of Swagger and MVP are praying for a switch to Smackdown in the next draft so they might get a look in. I understand that Kofi (many people’s choice) is tied up in a feud with Orton and I am hoping we get a TLC match between the pair with number one contender at the Royal Rumble at stake (much like Jeff and Triple H had a couple of years ago at Armageddon) and give Kofi a main event test that way. Sheamus is solid but has shown nothing truly spectacular in the way that someone like Swagger has and I really think he may flop at TLC, maybe I will be proved wrong but this whole thing stinks of backstage politics rather than giving guys who have earned their shots the right way a chance.
have already decided to watchTLC live and that is thanks to the awesome announcement this past Tuesday on ECW. Shelton Benjamin will face Christian for the ECW title in a ladder match! This is the last chance a match in WWE has this year of beating Taker vs Michaels and if anyone can do it then these two can! Shelton and Christian have so much experience and are so good at matches like this that this will be one of the highlights of the year without a shadow of a doubt. I like the fact Shelton has turned face as it guarentees he will be going for all his high spots in this match and hopefully this could be a passing of the torch moment as Christian could drop the title here and go on to win the Royal Rumble and make the switch to RAW or Smackdown that way. Words cannot describe how much I am looking forward to this one and as long as it is given a decent amount of time it will doubtlessly become an instant classic!
Don’t want to talk too much about this but Bobby Lashley as number one contender??? Really….....
Smackdown is quite good last week too
Here are ten points to consider coming out of this week’s show
• Chris Jericho remains on course for heel of the year award with another fantastic opening promo! Something tells me Jeri-Show will be loosing at TLC though…
• Hart Dynasty vs Cryme Tyme was not a bad match but really had no reasoning behind it, if WWE wants to give them something to do they should have a proper feud again rather than just a random match here and there
• And DH Smith REALLY needs a new finisher. No one will take him seriously with a back suplex!
• Could this be the beginnings of a straightedge stable? I certainly hope so! Whilst the logic behind Festus’ comatose state before was a bit crazy I am already loving his transformation and can only imagine what this will do for his career!
• Punk delivered another memorable promo as well as, as Jericho would say ‘shamelessly shilling’ the new Jeff Hardy DVD which looks phenomenal!
• I am so surprised Batista and Kane wrestled a really good match, since turning heel Batista is a hundred times more interesting and the way he methodically took apart Kane’s knee in this match was something he NEVER would have done in his previous dominant babyface role
• What a shame Eric Escobar finally delivers (to an extent) in the match that could well be his last, the split from Vickie leaves Eric looking on shaky ground in my opinion
• Batista on guest commentary is awesome! I really like how he says nothing and just studies the match intensely, I know its been done before but this works so well in my opinion
• Jericho and Undertaker delivered as we knew they would but why do WWE keep giving us this for free???
• Batista’s beat down of Undertaker was probably the first time in recent memory I can remember Taker being so savagely taken apart by one person, great way to build the title match even though we have seen it before!
John Cena vs. Chris Jericho for the WWE Title is being advertised for upcoming RAW shows in January of 2010. This could mean that Jericho is moving to the RAW roster permanently as he is currently a SmackDown star.
Source - Lords of Pain
John Cena vs. Chris Jericho for the WWE Title is being advertised for upcoming RAW shows in January of 2010. This could mean that Jericho is moving to the RAW roster permanently as he is currently a SmackDown star.
Source - Lords of Pain
That's subject to change though?
That's subject to change though?
I guess. But it seems a little strange to advertise it in the first place. Plus, Jericho going over to Raw could be a middle finger to DX saying that they're going to get rid of Jericho from Raw.
Also, WWE are going to have comics now...
justintheman99
12-03-2009, 13:14
Well if Jerocho is moved to Raw that would mean Jerishow is dropping those tag titles. Then again who really cares as the entire tag division is DEAD.
Well if Jerocho is moved to Raw that would mean Jerishow is dropping those tag titles. Then again who really cares as the entire tag division is DEAD.
Agree thats why the unified the titles. Sucks cause you got hart dynasty, crime time(who never held those belts and rightfully deserve to), and I am sure theres more but WWE dosent focus on that any more. So much talent on that roster and they barly use any of it.
justintheman99
12-03-2009, 13:21
The one thing that would solve many problems for many performers is rejuvenate the tag division and start building some ACTUAL tag teams using the talent that is currently not being used very often. It will give new life to the tag division, help promote new talent, and restore meaning to those titles which haven't held any value for several years.
The one thing that would solve many problems for many performers is rejuvenate the tag division and start building some ACTUAL tag teams using the talent that is currently not being used very often. It will give new life to the tag division, help promote new talent, and restore meaning to those titles which haven't held any value for several years.
I feel the same way about the intercontental and USA titles. I mean they are just there. Do not get promoted enough. hell usualy the intercontental goes to someone who then barly wrestles/defends it, or like in Hardy case they fight for WWE title for like 3 months. I give credit to TNA cause they can promote thier champions, not to mention thier knockout divesion destroys the Divas.
three3-times
12-03-2009, 15:11
jerishow are already droppping the titles as big show is injured!
keep up guys!!
Yes, so no wonder Jericho has to face DX on Monday.
$Greatness$
12-03-2009, 21:42
Wrestling died 2005. The beginning of the death was when Vince bought WCW. This isn't wrestling, this is trash... period! CM Punk not still holding the title is proof of this. The titles get tossed around like hookers. Jesse V wasn't ;ying when he was shooting on Cena last Monday. Glad I saw that part of Raw is Bore.
Kingpin326
12-03-2009, 21:44
Ha you should have seen Carlito on this past Raw. He spoke for the fans what everyone was thinking about.
That Cena is always in the spotlight, younger talent will never get a chance like him or be in the spotlight. I loved that part, it was a like a ***** slap to Cena when he heard it, I know it's pre planned but i'm pretty sure he was thinking about it when Carlito told him.
Ha you should have seen Carlito on this past Raw. He spoke for the fans what everyone was thinking about.
That Cena is always in the spotlight, younger talent will never get a chance like him or be in the spotlight. I loved that part, it was a like a ***** slap to Cena when he heard it, I know it's pre planned but i'm pretty sure he was thinking about it when Carlito told him.
Carlito and Ventura for GMs!
Yeah it was brilliant to hear, and the fact that Cena got the last laugh just cemented Carlito's words.
I feel the same way about the intercontental and USA titles. I mean they are just there. Do not get promoted enough. hell usualy the intercontental goes to someone who then barly wrestles/defends it, or like in Hardy case they fight for WWE title for like 3 months. I give credit to TNA cause they can promote thier champions, not to mention thier knockout divesion destroys the Divas.
Imo, they've done a little bit of improvement lately. The IC title had two great feuds in Mysterio-Jericho and Mysterio-Ziggler, and a meh feud surrounding it in Morrison-Ziggler, I think it'll gain more prestige as we go. The US title has The Miz holding it, which is excellent for the title - just a shame he doesn't defend it too often. It's looking like a feud with Swagger is in the works, so that could be a good one for the US title.
As for the tag teams, yeah it's awful. They need to have more tag teams and more feuds between each of them.
just found out smackdown is coming to my area. looking forward to it. gonna get cheap seats. Mickie james and tommy dreamer gonna be at local pizza shop so prob gonna talk to them and let Mickie know she still the ebst looking Diva
three3-times
12-04-2009, 13:39
this is exactly why i watch TNA now
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/blog-spot/tna-blog-zone-great-matches-hogan-required/#
I agree with everything he said. Probably the best impact ive watched!!
just found out smackdown is coming to my area. looking forward to it. gonna get cheap seats. Mickie james and tommy dreamer gonna be at local pizza shop so prob gonna talk to them and let Mickie know she still the ebst looking Diva
Lucky you!
Tell her I love her :p
Breaking News
Umaga Dead?
Guys what's going on with Umaga?
It's all over Twitter that he's had a heart attack. Some Re saying he is dead while others are saying he is seriously ill in hospital and it's not looking good!
Just google Umaga and you will see there are contridicting stories! How come he's not been on wwe for ages!? Did he fail some tests again?
Breaking News
Umaga Dead?
Guys what's going on with Umaga?
It's all over Twitter that he's had a heart attack. Some Re saying he is dead while others are saying he is seriously ill in hospital and it's not looking good!
Just google Umaga and you will see there are contridicting stories! How come he's not been on wwe for ages!? Did he fail some tests again?
I doubt he is dead. WWE would have posted on thier webpage. he prob is going through problems with health tho.
santinomarella
12-04-2009, 23:36
Unfortunately he has passed away :(
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/12849630
Shame. Out of all the 'monsters' in WWE, I always thought Umaga was the only one, besides Kane, who had a place in the roster.
A shame to hear, especially being somewhat young and there pretty recently.
dc writer
12-05-2009, 08:57
Thats what I'm kind of getting at. Build him properly.. then let him shine because right now WWE is flooded with main eventers right now. Let Kennedy keep getting put over by guys like HBK, he will get a better reputation and become more versatile for different styled opponents. Don't forget when Lashley comes back, there will be his fued.. Unfortunately, WWE will put over Lashley because he is one ripped mother ****er, but they could maybe get somewhere with both of them.
I know this is old but i had to bring this back... but so much for Mr. kennedy and his big WWE push.
I wasn't sold on him like most in this thread... Look at him now.. get`s a match against that scrub Val Venis on that Hulkamania tour. :lol: Pitiful...
BTW R.I.P Umaga
I know this is old but i had to bring this back... but so much for Mr. kennedy and his big WWE push.
I wasn't sold on him like most in this thread... Look at him now.. get`s a match against that scrub Val Venis on that Hulkamania tour. :lol: Pitiful...
BTW R.I.P Umaga
I wasn't watching around the time he got fired, but as I understand it, the position he's in now is a result of circumstance, of his failing the wellness policy, rather than a lack of ability or anything else.
Then again, I'm a KK fan.
Horrible news about Umaga. Died way too young and was one of the most entertaining super heavyweights I have ever witnessed. I'm proud to have seen Umaga wrestle live twice, he impressed me big time.
Also sad for Kennedy as he's had to wrestle against 2 people in their last match (Eddie Guerrero and Umaga).
Time to put Umaga in the Legends list on WWE SvrR 2010.
Wasn't Umaga's last match against CM Punk in that strap match at Extreme Rules? I'm sure he got released the next day.
santinomarella
12-05-2009, 14:39
Wasn't Umaga's last match against CM Punk in that strap match at Extreme Rules? I'm sure he got released the next day.
Yeah that was his last match with WWE, his last ever match was on the Hulkamania tour against Mr Kennedy.
three3-times
12-05-2009, 15:51
RIP Eddie Fatu
Yeah that was his last match with WWE, his last ever match was on the Hulkamania tour against Mr Kennedy.
Ah right. Yeah I forgot about that.
RIP Umaga. :(
I heart Sheamus.
TDbank24
12-06-2009, 07:08
It's sad seeing these wrestlers die so young.
RIP Umaga.
Watched Smackdown. Thought it was a great show, with good matches we haven't seen before.
Punk and Gallows is working out really well imo.
Kane and Knox put on a good match, and actually had Kane looking strong again, as I've been hoping for.
James-Phoenix-Natalya was the first Diva's match I've enjoyed in a long, long time. Loved when Natalya and Phoenix squared off, I can't wait to see a feud between the two if Hart Dynasty/Natalya ever turns face. Good to see her in the ring instead of outside it.
Morrison-McIntyre, I have no idea how a crowd can be so dead in such a good match with two very exciting, rising, young wrestlers. Thought I had seen all of Morrison's moves, but that Kip -> Bicycle kick was like nothing else. McIntyre had that Tilt-a-whirl -> Hurracanrana counter -> Tilt-a-whirl that was pretty immense as well.
Escobar and Hart Dynasty - The promo between Vickie and Escobar just showed how obvious the crowd dubs for Smackdown was. As usual, I love Vickie's "EXCUSE ME", but the two broke up too soon, nobody cares about Escobar at the moment. Match itself was okay, we haven't seen a handicap in a while so it's refreshing.
Jerishow and Cryme Tyme - Standard fare. Bigging up Big Show's punch again, but really just covering for his injury. Decent bout between Y2J and JTG.
Side note: I love Matt Striker. He says things that I haven't heard in commentary before. That bit about Natalya throwing in a headlock instead of a punch against Phoenix, and other things like that which highlight the little nuances of a wrestler's performance is such good commentary. Plus, "Ha, you said a man was attractive", hilarious.
Good show all round. I was kinda worried for SD cause it hasn't been as good as normal in recent weeks (the repeated Morrison-Ziggler matches didn't help!) but it was good today.
santinomarella
12-06-2009, 14:06
Hulk Hogan debuts on TNA, January 4th 2010, which is a Monday and they get a 3 hour time slot up against Raw :eek:
Apparently Raw might also be having a 3 hour special that night to.
I think that show could be the one where we see The Rock as guest host!! :D
All the info for this is here: http://ewrestlingnews.com/ But The Rock is just my prediction :p
I extremely bad hope TNA pulls of the impossible; a rating of at least 2.0. By this WWE will have to put on a better show too, which could only mean a great thing for wrestling fans; another monday night war - better wrestling shows!
C'mon TNA, book your best wrestlers! AJ Styles, Daniels, Joe, Desmond Wolf, any of these 4 let them compete against each other. Then go on with some tag team action, Team 3D and maybe the British Invasion. Then get on with the highlight of the show, showcase your main eventers! Get Sting, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley and some others in the ring and let Hulk Hogan debut, maybe set up a future storyline behind him and perhaps Sting? Sounds good right?
Some rumour type news:
-- Though details are unclear, sources say Carlito's recent absence from WWE was not an issue of creative having no plans for him. According to the Wrestling Observer, the reason for his absence "was something bad that [WWE is] trying to keep quiet."
pwmania
Credit: pwinsider.com
It's been reported this week that major changes are coming to WWE in the early months of 2010, with the ECW brand likely being shut down. According to a report, WWE also has big changes in store for the Smackdown brand. The feeling is that RAW has enhanced its identity with the Guest Host concept and Smackdown needs something of its own to stand out. While nothing official has been decided on yet, it's believed that any big changes will take place after year ends.Possible TLC SPOILER:
LOP:
We don't have a full spoiler report yet but TrooperH provided the following information from WWE's Tribute to the Troops taping yesterday:
"During the tribute to the troops taping earlier today, Cena did a promo with Sheamus and said "when I [Cena] get my rematch".... Neither came down with the belt, but, since the tribute show airs 6 days after the PPV, it seems like they may be foreshadowing that Sheamus is going to win at the PPV."
I seriously cannot see Sheamus actually winning this match, but if he does I think I will [positively] go nuts!
The Cena losing his title report is fake, it's already been confirmed to be fake:
Thanks to SGT Jason Moore for sending these correct spoilers (the ones suggesting that Sheamus wins the title are false) from WWE's Tribute to the Troops tapings:
Hello my name is SGT Jason Moore. I am based at Joint Base Balad, Iraq. I was at the "Tribute to the Troops" show today, and whoever told you what John Cena said was wrong. Here is what happened.
* MVP over Chris Masters
* Mark Henry & Rey Mysterio over CM Punk and Carlito
* The Miz over John Morrison
* R-Truth came out dressed as Santa with the Divas and threw stuff to the crowd.
* John Cena (with the title) over Chris Jericho
He never mentioned Sheamus what so ever. He thank the troops and did a speech. I have enclosed a picture of Cena after the match with the title.
Unless that one is fake too, but I doubt it lol.
The Cena losing his title report is fake, it's already been confirmed to be fake:
Thanks to SGT Jason Moore for sending these correct spoilers (the ones suggesting that Sheamus wins the title are false) from WWE's Tribute to the Troops tapings:
Hello my name is SGT Jason Moore. I am based at Joint Base Balad, Iraq. I was at the "Tribute to the Troops" show today, and whoever told you what John Cena said was wrong. Here is what happened.
* MVP over Chris Masters
* Mark Henry & Rey Mysterio over CM Punk and Carlito
* The Miz over John Morrison
* R-Truth came out dressed as Santa with the Divas and threw stuff to the crowd.
* John Cena (with the title) over Chris Jericho
He never mentioned Sheamus what so ever. He thank the troops and did a speech. I have enclosed a picture of Cena after the match with the title.
Unless that one is fake too, but I doubt it lol.
Ah, fair enough. Knew it was too good to be true.
wait wasent chris master banned from WWE for failing so many substance test?
He's been back for a while now. As far as I'm aware, since he returned, there haven't been any stories of him failing any tests or whatever.
You could see that his body looked relatively smaller though when he made his return.
I hope Sheamus wins, that would be awesome for me. I love Sheamus!
justintheman99
12-07-2009, 13:25
Sheamus is NOT ready yet. The guy has been on Raw for what 4 weeks? Give me a break. There are more deserving people on the roster right now who have worked their way to be considered. This guy shows up and gets a title shot just because he up HHH's ***? What a joke...
Sheamus is NOT ready yet. The guy has been on Raw for what 4 weeks? Give me a break. There are more deserving people on the roster right now who have worked their way to be considered. This guy shows up and gets a title shot just because he up HHH's ***? What a joke...
HBK should have the title just one last time imo.
three3-times
12-07-2009, 13:42
Sheamus is NOT ready yet. The guy has been on Raw for what 4 weeks? Give me a break. There are more deserving people on the roster right now who have worked their way to be considered. This guy shows up and gets a title shot just because he up HHH's ***? What a joke...
part of my post on the prior page:
was a pretty weird one! I loved the concept of a breakout tournament to determine a new number one contender and I love that RAW creative have finally picked up on what the fans have been complaining about for so long. However to have Sheamus win the thing only six months into his WWE career is questionable to say the least and makes me wonder how much this has to do with his friends in HHHigh places rather than his actual ability. Don’t get me wrong I think Sheamus is very solid in the ring but the guy has never held one title so far in WWE and besides pinning Morrison at Survivor Series, his next best accomplishment was overcoming Goldust in a long running feud on ECW and now this guy is challenging John Cena in the main event of a pay per view? I really like that WWE are giving us something new and fresh but on RAW you have guys like MVP, Swagger, The Miz and Carlito who are all former or current mid card title holders who would have been a much better choice to go against Cena. I mean imagine how these guys must be feeling, after busting their asses for years and working their way up, a guy comes in and kisses Triple H’s *** an d gets a title shot within six months? If that happened to me in my job I would be pissed and I bet the likes of Swagger and MVP are praying for a switch to Smackdown in the next draft so they might get a look in. I understand that Kofi (many people’s choice) is tied up in a feud with Orton and I am hoping we get a TLC match between the pair with number one contender at the Royal Rumble at stake (much like Jeff and Triple H had a couple of years ago at Armageddon) and give Kofi a main event test that way. Sheamus is solid but has shown nothing truly spectacular in the way that someone like Swagger has and I really think he may flop at TLC, maybe I will be proved wrong but this whole thing stinks of backstage politics rather than giving guys who have earned their shots the right way a chance.
The Cage
12-07-2009, 13:53
Sup guys,
2 days ago a friend brought a DVD called "Beyond The Mat"[it's about wrestling] it's a pretty old movie (1999)
but it was good , I suggest it to anyone who didn't watch it ...
I really miss the old days of the WWF , WWE is a joke now tbh
I miss the old wrestlers & matches and wrestling styles etc.
Sheamus is NOT ready yet. The guy has been on Raw for what 4 weeks? Give me a break. There are more deserving people on the roster right now who have worked their way to be considered. This guy shows up and gets a title shot just because he up HHH's ***? What a joke...
Of course he's not ready. If he won, it would be a shorter build up than Brock Lesnar. But people are just to the point that they'd want anyone to take the title off of Cena.
And with Triple H backing you, you can go on to do anything in this company.
I wouldnt mind Sheamus winning. It'll create a buzz.... :)
Kingpin326
12-07-2009, 21:05
I actually want Shemus to win now, John Cena needs to move on to other stuff other than HOGGING the title.
Well if Sheamus gets the last laugh over Cena on Raw tonight then it's 100% certain that he's not going to win at TLC, although one could argue that that's already certain.
The Cage
12-08-2009, 03:17
we just had enough of cena really , we need new faces for the title ....
Thing is though, what it all comes down to, he makes the WWE money. He has done for years now and still does so they're going to keep him where he is as it benefits them, not the true and loyal fans.
sigh...first raw I watched in like 2 months and it sucked...big time.
It did suck.
Practically no Melina.
Disrespectful that there was no mention of Umaga (unless they cut something out over here), only the fact that a few wrestlers had black armbands.
The guest host was lame.
Hornswoggle is back and is still a <unt.
And Sheamus threw away his potential 1% chance of winning by having the last say against Cena.
Crap Raw overall.
Loved three things though:
- Miz getting a clean win against Henry WITHOUT his finisher, makes Henry look weak, but I like Miz getting credibility AND matches being won without finishers
- Crowd chanting "Masterlock"
- Big Show punching the chair onto HHH
justintheman99
12-08-2009, 13:15
Umaga died?!
Almost seems like there is a curse brought upon you as soon as you become a wrestler.
three3-times
12-08-2009, 14:33
Yeah Umaga died of 2 heart attacks, where u been Just???!!!
I just watched smackdown:
Here are ten points to consider coming out of this week’s show
• I am hopeful WWE officials have now realised that Truth is more than capable of working towards the top of the card
• I cannot wait to see Luke Gallows in his first match under this gimmick. I think this guy is going to have one hell of a move set, lets just hope they don’t call his finisher: 12 Steps To Recovery!
• So Kane is a face again now??? I guess it is probably for the best, he never really got over as a heel like WWE were hoping!
• If only WWE could treat all their women’s matches like that we might actually have a credible division! Maria making the save sucks cause it means we have to endure her wrestling again but she is over with the fans more than most.
• I really hope Beth and Natayla get a proper one on one match that is given a decent amount of time next week! That would be awesome!
• What a phenomenal match from Morrison and Drew! By far Drew’s best Smackdown showing yet! This is how to build a big new star by sending him after a mid card belt rather than the main championship and putting him against credible opposition rather than a joke (RAW putting Sheamus in the WWE title picture and against Santino)
• Eric Escobar owes whoever wrote this angle a beer as they have saved his job! The crowd instantly took to him as a cheeky latino face as he mocked Vickie! Great move!
• Was it just me or was that Luke Gallows/CM Punk promo a bit of a bromance? At least Luke showed he can talk but I thought it was a but unprofessional how Punk was cracking up towards the end!
• What a let down of a main event, Cryme Tyme are a decent team and don’t deserve to be squashed like that. Just shows how bad Show is hurt if he is playing such a minimal role, I hope he makes it through TLC.
• Batista jumping Undertaker during his entrance was really well done and different! With Batista having ALL the advantage so far I am guessing Taker may be retaining at TLC. I am still wondering what exactly a chair match is…
The Cage
12-08-2009, 15:33
wow , did umaga died for real ? i didn't hear till now :o , poor guy R.I.P Umaga
Yeah Umaga died of 2 heart attacks, where u been Just???!!!
I just watched smackdown:
Here are ten points to consider coming out of this week’s show
• I am hopeful WWE officials have now realised that Truth is more than capable of working towards the top of the card
• I cannot wait to see Luke Gallows in his first match under this gimmick. I think this guy is going to have one hell of a move set, lets just hope they don’t call his finisher: 12 Steps To Recovery!
• So Kane is a face again now??? I guess it is probably for the best, he never really got over as a heel like WWE were hoping!
• If only WWE could treat all their women’s matches like that we might actually have a credible division! Maria making the save sucks cause it means we have to endure her wrestling again but she is over with the fans more than most.
• I really hope Beth and Natayla get a proper one on one match that is given a decent amount of time next week! That would be awesome!
• What a phenomenal match from Morrison and Drew! By far Drew’s best Smackdown showing yet! This is how to build a big new star by sending him after a mid card belt rather than the main championship and putting him against credible opposition rather than a joke (RAW putting Sheamus in the WWE title picture and against Santino)
• Eric Escobar owes whoever wrote this angle a beer as they have saved his job! The crowd instantly took to him as a cheeky latino face as he mocked Vickie! Great move!
• Was it just me or was that Luke Gallows/CM Punk promo a bit of a bromance? At least Luke showed he can talk but I thought it was a but unprofessional how Punk was cracking up towards the end!
• What a let down of a main event, Cryme Tyme are a decent team and don’t deserve to be squashed like that. Just shows how bad Show is hurt if he is playing such a minimal role, I hope he makes it through TLC.
• Batista jumping Undertaker during his entrance was really well done and different! With Batista having ALL the advantage so far I am guessing Taker may be retaining at TLC. I am still wondering what exactly a chair match is…
I'd like to see Beth and Natalya fight at WrestleMania. If they are given a good enough time slot I think the two of them could put on quite a match. I actually wished it was a singles match when they were squaring up to each other.
I hope that Drew gets a good enough push, but a slow one. Like you say, it's always better to start them off at the bottom really, rather than going straight to the top. Jeff Hardy finally winning the WWE title was awesome, but went on a little too long.
Yep, I agree about Escobar. I seriously thought that this guy was going to be released soon enough after his first match because he was boring and didn't seem appealing whatsoever. But now, I'm quite interested in seeing what's going to happen next. At the moment, it feels just a little like Stone Cold against The Corporation/Ministry - one guy against it all.
Pretty sure that Taker will retain at TLC.
Im still beting on taker to retire after wrestlemania. Just got a strong feeling this year will see taker, HH, shawn retiring. Then agian said that last year and look where we are now.
Wo wo, where did everybody get that "Sheamus kisses Triple H's ***" thing from? I haven't ever read that. I read it was HBK and HHH who really liked Drew McIntyre.. lol
There was an interview I'm not gonna hunt down at the moment where HHH was asked who he thinks is the brightest prospect. He mentions Sheamus and claims he works out with him.
I don't know how much *** kissing is involved, but there's a chance people are making it out to be more than it really is.
justintheman99
12-08-2009, 19:35
To be an actual wrestler on the card, and have as much power as HHH is just a bad combination.
source Impactwrestling.com
- Charlie Haas reportedly asked WWE for his release within the last few months. Apparently officials were going to grant him the release at first but changed their minds and gave him a raise instead. There was a rumor going around that Kurt Angle had a spot for Haas in TNA so WWE kept Haas around instead of having him jump to TNA.
:lol:
To be an actual wrestler on the card, and have as much power as HHH is just a bad combination.
married to bosses daughter ftw.
So who hopes TNA tonight will be just as good if not better than last week?
I don't get why Sheamus has had such a push.
Damn Triple H.
$Greatness$
12-11-2009, 08:38
I don't get why Sheamus has had such a push.
Damn Triple H.
Just goes to shown that the WWE is trash and that people are nuts for still watching this mess. I now see that I had it real good when the Monday Night Wars was around. Now it's all marketing, kids, and garbage. Jesse Ventura had it right when he was the GM. :D
The last guy to be guest host on Raw, was it Mark Noble or something?
Anyway, he was the best by far.
The last guy to be guest host on Raw, was it Mark Noble or something?
Anyway, he was the best by far.
This guy who hosted this Monday gone? He was awful.
Ventura was definately the best by far (in my opinion).
The Cage
12-11-2009, 14:16
This guy who hosted this Monday gone? He was awful.
Ventura was definately the best by far (in my opinion).
I agree
This guy who hosted this Monday gone? He was awful.
Ventura was definately the best by far (in my opinion).
I thought he was pretty good. He was no Ventura, but he had a connection with the crowd that about 3/4 of the guest hosts didn't, he had a connection with the wrestlers that about 3/4 of the guest hosts didn't, and he could talk on the mic quite well, which about 3/4 of the guest hosts can't.
I don't get why Sheamus has had such a push.
Damn Triple H.
I like Sheamus. But I am torn between worrying that he's being pushed too fast and being glad that there's someone new in the ME picture.
I'm gonna say what I said back then: there was no one else that made sense to win that breakout battle royal match. Kofi's in a slow build (rightly) atm leading up to a probable Rumble win, AND he's a face, MVP is a face, Henry is a face, etc. And I don't believe WWE want Cena to be feuding with any faces, cause it would probably mess up either one of the two characters, given Cena's "controversial" standing with the "WWE Universe".
Meanwhile, Miz is building credibility of the US title and getting a slow build, Swagger had JUST broken his 'winning streak' gimmick, Carlito was nowhere at the time, Ted and Cody are in the (rightly) slow process of turning Ted face. There is one who they're trying to build as a powerhouse and as a character, one who hasn't messed up that build yet, who wasn't involved in something at the time, and that was Sheamus.
Ah, I just didn't click with this Cuban guy.
I wonder if he'll wait another six years to come back and get revenge on Sheamus now...?
:lol:
The Cage
12-11-2009, 14:20
Ah, I just didn't click with this Cuban guy.
I wonder if he'll wait another six years to come back and get revenge on Sheamus now...?
:lol:
Which guy are we talking about ?
Which guy are we talking about ?
This guy who hosted Raw this week I thought?
His name is something Cuban, I believe? Might be Mark. :lol:
The Cage
12-11-2009, 14:24
This guy who hosted Raw this week I thought?
His name is something Cuban, I believe? Might be Mark. :lol:
O that one , well i don't like em lol
O that one , well i don't like em lol
*highfive*
The Cage
12-11-2009, 14:38
*highfive*
back at ya ;)
Just been watching a WWE Special on Sky Sports 3 about Starrcade. It was quite interesting.
The Cage
12-11-2009, 14:59
i'm looking forward to TLC this sunday , I just ordered it on Sky
i'm looking forward to TLC this sunday , I just ordered it on Sky
:o Why dude, why?
:p
The Cage
12-11-2009, 15:17
:o Why dude, why?
:p
why what ? lol
Just why order it? Don't worry, I'm not being assertive here, I just think myself that I wouldn't pay £15 for a PPV nowadays.
The Cage
12-11-2009, 23:23
Just why order it? Don't worry, I'm not being assertive here, I just think myself that I wouldn't pay £15 for a PPV nowadays.
well i just wanted to watch it live , and c'mon it's only £15 lol
Heh.
Molo, give me a shout where you're streaming it, which I assume you're doing again?
I normally do Justin.tv, but that cuts off sometime in the middle. They normally show replays though.
well i just wanted to watch it live , and c'mon it's only £15 lolYeah, sorry. Feel as though I'm coming across as an arse.
For me, £15 seems quite a bit, mainly because I don't have a job so I'd feel like I'm just throwing money away.
Heh.
Molo, give me a shout where you're streaming it, which I assume you're doing again?
I normally do Justin.tv, but that cuts off sometime in the middle. They normally show replays though.
I would dude, but I got so annoying with the Survivor Series streams that I was just thinking of watching it the next day or something (via other methods :p )
Anyway, I may be going out the next day so I probably won't stay up for it.
The Cage
12-12-2009, 15:25
it's ok , Don't worry about it Molo :)
Kingpin326
12-12-2009, 16:46
Just goes to shown that the WWE is trash and that people are nuts for still watching this mess. I now see that I had it real good when the Monday Night Wars was around. Now it's all marketing, kids, and garbage. Jesse Ventura had it right when he was the GM. :D
Your dream is gonna come true again.
TNA is gonna go head to head with WWE starting Monday January 4th, 2010.
The Cage
12-12-2009, 16:48
Your dream is gonna come true again.
TNA is gonna go head to head with WWE starting Monday January 4th, 2010.
head to head ? can you explain more please ?
Kingpin326
12-12-2009, 16:52
As in the same time slot. It will air live monday (every monday) same time as RAW starting January 4th.
YouTube- UFC Talks With Hulk Hogan About TNAWresling.
The Cage
12-12-2009, 16:54
wow , that would be a big hit for the WWE
Kingpin326
12-12-2009, 16:58
wow , that would be a big hit for the WWE
It's gonna be just like the old days when it was WCW vs WWE.
Lets see how long TNA lasts lol. TNA has all the washed up WWE stars plus some really great actual TNA talent.
hmm I do not think a monday move is best for them. Not now at least. But all the luck to them. WWE needs a solid competition so itll get out of the downhill slope it is now. And I wouldnt say washed up WWE stars as much ones who constantly failed substance test or in Angels case was a medic risk.
The only PPV I will actually pay for and ever have is Wrestlemania. Thats it.
justintheman99
12-12-2009, 19:16
Finally!
Competition is the key ingredient that is missing from the wrestling world (televised one anyways). I think with TNA and WWE both competing on Monday nights will only make both promotions better. This is what I have been dreaming for, for years. It will force them both to try their hardest and hopefully us "fans" will reap all the benefits.
Hopefully now WWE will be forced to let The Great One guest host.
I remember him mentioning it on the 10 year bash for Smackdown but now they will have to get him in to show TNA who is boss.
Kingpin326
12-12-2009, 19:26
The Great one?
justintheman99
12-12-2009, 19:27
Someone needs to do the following:
Slap Dwayne Johnson across the face and explain to him his true identity is The Rock. That all his movies to date sucked, and his acting career is nothing to brag about. Force him to go back the world he was destined for, wresting in the WWE.
:wink:
+ rep.
Couldn't of put it better myself.
Blimey! Can you only imagine how great it would be if WWE programming regained it's "greatness" that it had some years ago because they have a proper rival once again?
JIZZ IN MY PANTS... :p
justintheman99
12-13-2009, 04:00
Blimey! Can you only imagine how great it would be if WWE programming regained it's "greatness" that it had some years ago because they have a proper rival once again?
JIZZ IN MY PANTS... :p
If TNA can become more mainstream and deliver a much higher caliber product, then indeed this may occur. :wink:
If TNA can become more mainstream and deliver a much higher caliber product, then indeed this may occur. :wink:
Indeed. They have the talent easily, just need good story lines to pull it off. I mean I can bet Hogan will do some kind of "NWO" thing in TNA. As to how that will go over, prob not well like the mafia thing did.
justintheman99
12-13-2009, 04:18
TNA should go with a more adult rating base. Compared to the WWE and their PG rating, instantly the more adult viewers will switch their attention to TNA instead.
The monday move will revive or break TNA. Samoa Joe VS Hogan I would order that PPV.
justintheman99
12-13-2009, 04:25
The monday move will revive or break TNA. Samoa Joe VS Hogan I would order that PPV.
Hogan has the name, but does he have the wrestling ability to carry a good match? In his prime I felt he was never the most "complete" competitor. He could hype a match, and work the mic, but his move arsenal was sub par. Now that he is OLD he has slowed down, and cannot keep a solid pace that today's wrestling requires. For me I would be more happy if he just stayed out of the ring altogether.
Hogan has the name, but does he have the wrestling ability to carry a good match? In his prime I felt he was never the most "complete" competitor. He could hype a match, and work the mic, but his move arsenal was sub par. Now that he is OLD he has slowed down, and cannot keep a solid pace that today's wrestling requires. For me I would be more happy if he just stayed out of the ring altogether.
I agree he didnt have a big move set. The way he drew that crowed was seconed to non. Just reading the crowed to hype them back up when they started to get bored. I still think he has it, I mean look at ric flair. more so his match with Randy Ortan a while back. He showed he could still do it, all be it moved a bit slower, but still name one other wrestler his age.
How about some predictions?
World Heavyweight Championship
Undertaker vs Batista
Winner: Undertaker
WWE Championship
John Cena vs Sheamus
Winner: John Cena
World Tag Team Championship
JeriShow vs DX
Winners: DX
Intercontinental Championship
John Morrison vs Drew McIntyre
Winner: John Morrison
Kofi Kingston vs Randy Orton
Winner: Randy Orton
WWE Women's Championship
Michelle McCool vs Mickie James
Winner: Michelle McCool
ECW Championship
Shelton Benjamin vs Christian
Winner: Don't watch ECW so I don't know how it's all going down over there, but I'm really looking forward to this match.
three3-times
12-13-2009, 21:47
i think thats pretty much golden there molo!
and tna isnt going head to head with the wwe, its just the one off 4 hour hogan 1st appearance that is on a monday
i watch tna regularly now, as an fdult, it appeals a LOT more and they have some SUPERB wrestlers
How about some predictions?
World Heavyweight Championship
Undertaker vs Batista
Winner: Undertaker
WWE Championship
John Cena vs Sheamus
Winner: John Cena
World Tag Team Championship
JeriShow vs DX
Winners: Jerishow
Intercontinental Championship
John Morrison vs Drew McIntyre
Winner: John Morrison
Kofi Kingston vs Randy Orton
Winner: Randy Orton
WWE Women's Championship
Michelle McCool vs Mickie James
Winner: Michelle McCool
ECW Championship
Shelton Benjamin vs Christian
Winner: Don't watch ECW so I don't know how it's all going down over there, but I'm really looking forward to this match.
Ill tell you why I think Jerishow. Cause as we saw with dx vs cena they are bulding up a micheals vs HH for wrestlemania.
three3-times
12-13-2009, 21:51
big show is injured, jerishow will be losing the titles
Those predictions are pretty much mine.
big show is injured, jerishow will be losing the titles
huh? he was on raw tho.
huh? he was on raw tho.
Yes, but if you've noticed, he's hardly done any wrestling or taken much part in any match he's been booked in.
I'm not entirely sure what is wrong with him, but I have noticed he's hardly done anything. When they wrestling Cryme Tyme the other week on Smackdown, he just punched Shad and won the match.
I don't really know what part he's going to play tonight if he's supposed to be injured.
Yes, but if you've noticed, he's hardly done any wrestling or taken much part in any match he's been booked in.
I'm not entirely sure what is wrong with him, but I have noticed he's hardly done anything. When they wrestling Cryme Tyme the other week on Smackdown, he just punched Shad and won the match.
I don't really know what part he's going to play tonight if he's supposed to be injured.
hmm. Maybe dx will win then. I still say wrestlemania shawn vs HHH tho.
hmm. Maybe dx will win then. I still say wrestlemania shawn vs HHH tho.
Yeah, could happen. There's a lot of time.
Anyway, I'm sure Michaels will have another big match because I read somewhere that he plans to take another break after WrestleMania.
santinomarella
12-14-2009, 00:41
I dont think its a guaranteed DX win, I know Big Show is injured, but whats to say DX wont double team him early on and he's down for most of the match?
Jericho could pull off a sneaky win or DX could begin to turn on each other to begin a feud between the two.
The tag title are rarely defended anyway and it wont make much difference if Big Show is just cutting promos.
A win for DX and Jericho goes back to Smackdown and cannot be on Raw and Jericho has been vital to Raw in recent weeks.
However I do think DX will win, but I think they will win because its been mentioned a lot that DX have never won the tag titles and that will be put to an end tonight.
I dont think its a guaranteed DX win, I know Big Show is injured, but whats to say DX wont double team him early on and he's down for most of the match?
Jericho could pull off a sneaky win or DX could begin to turn on each other to begin a feud between the two.
The tag title are rarely defended anyway and it wont make much difference if Big Show is just cutting promos.
A win for DX and Jericho goes back to Smackdown and cannot be on Raw and Jericho has been vital to Raw in recent weeks.
However I do think DX will win, but I think they will win because its been mentioned a lot that DX have never won the tag titles and that will be put to an end tonight.
Yeah. I was just thinking of that as my counter-argument whilst reading this post.
Oh well, looks like I'm going to stay up and try and watch it.
Yeah. I was just thinking of that as my counter-argument whilst reading this post.
Oh well, looks like I'm going to stay up and try and watch it.
keep us up to date.
Ah I've given up already. The best I can find has writing all over it.
******** to it. Missing the match I wanted to see the most too: Shelton and Christian.
santinomarella
12-14-2009, 02:24
THE NEW WWE CHAMPION SHEAMUS!!!!!!!! :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
the new wwe champion sheamus!!!!!!!! :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
holy ****!
THE NEW WWE CHAMPION SHEAMUS!!!!!!!! :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
omg say what??? No wais!!! Does this mean my earlier prediction of Cena vs taker at wrestlemania may be true? Gotta admit I am impressed shemus won. I mean I know rumble Cena will win, but stil to have Cena lose during his super Cena title reign?
And having a non-American or non-Canadian person win it in how long...?
I'm impressed!
The Cage
12-14-2009, 03:59
This is the best TLC Ever lol ,
gratz to DX and the others :)
LastManDancing
12-14-2009, 04:04
So...
Sheamus and McIntyre are the new champions...man having DX's support backstage is really good for your career! Though I admit having Sheamus as champion for at least a day is different.
The Cage
12-14-2009, 04:07
So...
Sheamus and McIntyre are the new champions...man having DX's support backstage is really good for your career! Though I admit having Sheamus as champion for at least a day is different.
I'm really impressed , those two are good
Ok heres my 3 month prediction.
Shemus hold title for 1-2 months fighting cena at rumble, and if he loses rumble another fight before wrestlemania. It may possible be a CEna vs 2 other at wrestlemania or Cena vs Taker if take loses belt in next 2 months. Dx will hold onto title for least 2 months before a big fall out elading to shawn vs HHH wrestlemania. Far as who beat them for belts it will be some new team or possibly legacy(not leting dibiase go face yet). Ortan will return to tile scene before wrestlemania. MVP will go back to title shot. Morrison wont get a shot for a while. We will see Sid Vicious before wrestlemania.
The Cage
12-14-2009, 04:14
Ok heres my 3 month prediction.
Shemus hold title for 1-2 months fighting cena at rumble, and if he loses rumble another fight before wrestlemania. It may possible be a CEna vs 2 other at wrestlemania or Cena vs Taker if take loses belt in next 2 months. Dx will hold onto title for least 2 months before a big fall out elading to shawn vs HHH wrestlemania. Far as who beat them for belts it will be some new team or possibly legacy(not leting dibiase go face yet). Ortan will return to tile scene before wrestlemania. MVP will go back to title shot. Morrison wont get a shot for a while. We will see Sid Vicious before wrestlemania.
I think Jericho will when the Royal Rumble so he can face the champ at WM But it will be the return of Edge so it will be a 3 way match
I think Jericho will when the Royal Rumble so he can face the champ at WM But it will be the return of Edge so it will be a 3 way match
Oh man forgot about Edge. Much as I hated him at first for pretty much losing then winning the champion belt. His matches where awsome. he is not afraid to do tlc matches outside of a "tlc ppv". Not to mention he has pure talent.
LastManDancing
12-14-2009, 04:24
I'm really impressed , those two are good Really? To me Drew McIntyre is bland, he has no character whatsoever, and the only wrestling move I've seen him do is his finisher which is a DDT! As for Sheamus, while I'm happy the guy has a gimmick he hasn't wrestled in anything but squash matches (Except Survivor Series) and I don't think has had any feuds prior to Cena, yet he is WWE champion? Over Jack Swagger!? :rolleyes:
The Cage
12-14-2009, 04:30
Oh man forgot about Edge. Much as I hated him at first for pretty much losing then winning the champion belt. His matches where awsome. he is not afraid to do tlc matches outside of a "tlc ppv". Not to mention he has pure talent.
Yea , i like Edge as well :) hope he comes back soon or at WM
Really? To me Drew McIntyre is bland, he has no character whatsoever, and the only wrestling move I've seen him do is his finisher which is a DDT! As for Sheamus, while I'm happy the guy has a gimmick he hasn't wrestled in anything but squash matches (Except Survivor Series) and I don't think has had any feuds prior to Cena, yet he is WWE champion? Over Jack Swagger!? :rolleyes:
It is just the start he will be as good as others , he is just new and needs some experience
About half of these spoiler tags aren't really spoilers :P
Plus, can they still be considered spoilers? The PPV has been aired worldwide after all!
But yeah, that was a decent PPV with some good results.The finishes to most of the matches were quite bs though, but I enjoyed the Kofi/Orton match and finish, and the innovative use of ladders in the Jerishow/DX match.
three3-times
12-14-2009, 09:24
There's a lot of confusion even backstage regarding the result of Sheamus going over John Cena in his Tables Match for the WWE Championship. I'm told the word at 6 PM Eastern was still for Cena to retain. We'll have more later, certainly some McMahon "trickery" going on.
There's a lot of confusion even backstage regarding the result of Sheamus going over John Cena in his Tables Match for the WWE Championship. I'm told the word at 6 PM Eastern was still for Cena to retain. We'll have more later, certainly some McMahon "trickery" going on.
Where are ya getting this?
justintheman99
12-14-2009, 13:03
I would guess rajah.com
By far the best site I know off for insider information in the WWE/TNA.
Now as for TLC, all I can say is I am in complete shock. :shock: Not a happy shock but a shock that relates to the fact a guy undeserving is now on top of the world!
three3-times
12-14-2009, 13:05
sorry
http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/
i also second what justin said.
justintheman99
12-14-2009, 13:14
Who here thinks he will lose that title tonight on Raw? I mean look how he won it, he pushed Cena through a table. WOW....even Hornswoggle could of done that.
Sheamus won! Yes!
McKintyre (or however you spell that) won too.... I like him as well. Can't wait to watch RAW tonight. I'm sooooooo happy! Only thing that I didnt like about the *results* in TLC is that Shelton didnt win... I mean comon' WWE! Do something with the guy! PLEASE! I'm begging you!
three3-times
12-14-2009, 13:20
i dont think he will lose tonight. but he wont be holding it for long. its not that i dont agree with creative pushing luckycharms, its the fact THAT HE DOESNT DESERVE IT!!!!!
justintheman99
12-14-2009, 13:20
Well as long as Shelton stays in the title picture in ECW for awhile longer, you just never know. But I agree the guy has paid his dues and deserves much better.
Shelton is one of my favorite wrestlers.. has been since he debuted.... ughh!
justintheman99
12-14-2009, 13:24
In all honesty Shelton is one of the most gifted in ring talents they have. Frankly, he is THE GUY who should be feuding with Morrison right now. Imagine the great stories they could tell in the ring?
three3-times
12-14-2009, 13:34
Shelton, is probably WWE's version of AJ Styles, except, WWE wont push him. i think this stance on ECW has done him good. Time for him and Christain to move to Smackdown!!
Best pure athlete on the WWE roster and he has a real wrestling background!!
I've heard that they offered Shelton a push before and he turned it down.
Anyway, there's talk about ECW folding in the new year, so he and Christian could very well go over to Smackdown.
They're also planning to cut back on PPVs just a little, having 12 in a year rather than 14 or whatever.
three3-times
12-14-2009, 13:40
i think i read that awhile back, dunno why he would if true.
anyway, looking forward to RAW (for once) to see the fall out from meluckycharms getting given the title
ROFL. Watching some matches now on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/user/xLegendKillaPPVv2x) and in the Morrison/McIntyre match:
Matt Striker: "My broadcast partner Todd Grisham always talks about John Morrison's chiseled good looks. That steel ringpost might have compromised that."
For those that don't listen, it's Striker that always talks about JoMo's good looks :lol:
Anyway:
Shelton - I hear he doesn't want to get pushed. Wants to stay in the midcard and not work too hard. This is the internet, of course, so it must be true.
Sheamus - I don't know, maybe he doesn't deserve it in the sense that he hasn't paid his dues more, but what this does is cause complete and utter shock amongst everyone. Which is a good thing, 1. for hopefully more viewers, and 2. for a little bit of unpredictability that we haven't seen in a while. Hopefully, they handle this reign right and don't have him lose it right away or look weak, because while he doesn't seem like he's right for the part now, a couple of weeks with the belt and he might just be a good champion.
I don't think there's too many out there who will refuse to tune in RAW tomorrow because Cena is no longer champion. I'd wager that people are gonna want to see where this goes.
santinomarella
12-14-2009, 13:52
I really don't mind that Sheamus is WWE Champion, I know there are more deserving people out there and that he is most likely champ because he has the backing of HHH.
But this has shaken things up, we have a different champion than the usual Raw regulars!
This is the change that Raw has been looking for!!
three3-times
12-14-2009, 14:18
At the end of the day WWEs product is now boring and neutered. How they call this a TLC ppv, when we all knew we wouldnt get anything like a reall TLC match of old.
I can turn on TNA or ROH on a weekly basis to get a match that is more competitieve, fun and intense than this crap.
WWE has messed up bigtime with this PG crap. I hope Hogan comes in a makes TNA even better and forces WWE to sort this crap out
W...t...h.
Now I don't like Cena, I mean who does?
But Sheamus as WWE Champion. What is going on. 4/5 weeks from appearing he is now the 'best'. Hmm.
The problem with Sheamus is he has no character, because of the time scale no fan has got to know him properly, he has no story.
Meh. I am disappoint.
I really don't mind that Sheamus is WWE Champion, I know there are more deserving people out there and that he is most likely champ because he has the backing of HHH.
But this has shaken things up, we have a different champion than the usual Raw regulars!
This is the change that Raw has been looking for!!
Exactly! It's just a nice change for once if anything!
I'm now just hoping that Sheamus gets this new title they've apparently been working on for ages now.
Get rid of Cena's title running stench for good! :p
I hope that there was a good crowd reaction from the true fans at the PPV last night, and hope the women and children were distraught :lol:
Sheamus is the man. :lol:
****ing loved the crowd reaction, as well as Matt Striker at the end and after the match. That guy is hilarious!
Does anyone know what Cena held up to the camera as he walked out? I'm sure I heard the words, "Never again.", but have no idea what it was he was on about.
The Cage
12-14-2009, 18:48
he took a peice of that broken table
Ouch, Jericho's face must be broken. :o
The Cage
12-14-2009, 19:20
Ouch, Jericho's face must be broken. :o
lol yeah , he went flying into that table .... and btw did you see big show's face when he was carrying jericho and dx came in the ring ? lol it was so funny
he took a peice of that broken table
Oh, is that it? I thought it was something more serious :lol:
Cheers.
The Cage
12-14-2009, 19:24
Oh, is that it? I thought it was something more serious :lol:
Cheers.
yeah i think that was it , i saw him picking it up in the ring
yourmumsface17
12-14-2009, 20:18
W...t...h.
Now I don't like Cena, I mean who does?
But Sheamus as WWE Champion. What is going on. 4/5 weeks from appearing he is now the 'best'. Hmm.
The problem with Sheamus is he has no character, because of the time scale no fan has got to know him properly, he has no story.
Meh. I am disappoint.
I kind of agree with this...
I really don't mind that Sheamus is WWE Champion, I know there are more deserving people out there and that he is most likely champ because he has the backing of HHH.
But this has shaken things up, we have a different champion than the usual Raw regulars!
This is the change that Raw has been looking for!!
But I also kinda agree with this...
I don't know what to think...
It's good because it's different, finally
It's bad because he has not earnt the right, wander what the midcarders who have worked their asses off think right now.
Why couldn't it be Jack Swagger winning that match? :(
I am pleased DX won their match, I like Jericho but good to see HBK hold a title again, tag team title with HHH is better too.
I wonder if Cena will beat down Sheamus tonight and come off as the stronger character... :sleep:
Anyway, here are the apparent nominees for the Slammys tonight:
Tag Team of The Year:
DX
Jeri-Show
Legacy
Hart Dynasty
Oh My! Moment of the Year:
Shawn Michaels kicks girl in Cafeteria
Chris Masters "pec dance" on "RAW's got Talent"
Michael Cole throws up on Chris Jericho at SD! Party
Santino accidentally pies Vickie Guerrero on Thanksgiving RAW
RAW Guest Host of the Year:
Bob Barker
Seth Green
Shaq
Ozzy & Sharon Osbourne
Shocker of the Year:
Batista turns on Rey at Bragging Rights
Randy Orton DDTs Stephanie and kisses her as Triple H watches
CM Punk defeats Jeff Hardy in a Steel Cage Match, causing Hardy to leave WWE
Sheamus slams Mark Cuban through a table
Breakout Star of the Year:
Drew McIntyre
Sheamus
Abraham Washington
Yoshi Tatsu
Extreme Moment of the Year:
Kofi Kingston boom drops Orton through a table at MSG
Big Show throws Cena through a searchlight at Backlash
Jeff Hardy dives off a 20-foot ladder onto Punk at SummerSlam
Triple H fights Randy Orton at his home and throws him through a window
Diva of the Year:
All the Divas are nominated
winner to be decided by fan vote on WWE.com tomorrow
Match of the Year:
Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker, WrestleMania 25
Cena vs. Orton, I Quit, Breaking Point
Jeff Hardy vs. Edge, Ladder Match, Extreme Rules
Team RAW vs. Team Smackdown, Bragging Rights
Superstar of The Year:
John Cena
CM Punk
Randy Orton
The Undertaker
Here's what I would like/think:
Tag Team of The Year:
Jeri-Show
Oh My! Moment of the Year:
Shawn Michaels kicks girl in Cafeteria
RAW Guest Host of the Year:
Bob Barker or
Ozzy & Sharon Osbourne
Shocker of the Year:
Randy Orton DDTs Stephanie and kisses her as Triple H watches
Breakout Star of the Year:
Can't decide, as I don't watch ECW, and I as much as I like Drew McIntyre, I think he and Sheamus have an "unfair" advantage over others in the company.
Extreme Moment of the Year:
Kofi Kingston boom drops Orton through a table at MSG
Diva of the Year:
Maybe Eve, just because I think she's trained up well.
Match of the Year:
Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker, WrestleMania 25 (FTW!)
Superstar of The Year:
CM Punk or
Randy Orton
Does anyone know what Cena held up to the camera as he walked out? I'm sure I heard the words, "Never again.", but have no idea what it was he was on about.
so what he will never agian wrestle in a match like that? lol thats my guess.
Also anyone ehared anything about jeff hardy? I know he had sever injuries and "retired" to heal them just wondering how he is doing.
so what he will never agian wrestle in a match like that? lol thats my guess.
Also anyone ehared anything about jeff hardy? I know he had sever injuries and "retired" to heal them just wondering how he is doing.
Ha, yeah. Sounds like it.
Nah I haven't heard anything since he was arrested or whatever. I'm surprised that the WWE are still mentioning him. As they're all "child friendly", I would have thought that they would have wiped their hands of him.
I so want to punch that screaming girl on Raw right now right in the face! Jesus!
is smackdown vs raw 2010 worth geting? last one I ever played was bring the pain. I like customization and heard 2010 is the best in years.
LOL wow dennis miller put Vince on the spot. I don't think that was scripted.
I had so much fun with SvR 2010 when I first got it. I still want to play it but just haven't had the proper time.
The story creation is great but you really need to put some time into it if you want to create something good.
I'd definately recommend it.
I had so much fun with SvR 2010 when I first got it. I still want to play it but just haven't had the proper time.
The story creation is great but you really need to put some time into it if you want to create something good.
I'd definately recommend it.
thanks Ill prob get it. Ill play thier story modes for a while. just liek creating my own guy mostly.