Professional Wrestling Thread [Archive] - Page 5

Maddog911

06-16-2007, 01:22

That was a classic match... HHH vs Foley.

Maybe they should go back to the old days were the belts used to switch every other month. Those were the good ole' days. :)
Another classic match was at Wrestlemania 22 Edge vs Mick Foley in the Hardcore match. Litterally amazing what they did i think it was the best wrestled match at the event. The moste entertaining was HBK vs Vince McMahon

Don't forget too watch TNA tonight! I think the Cage's opponent will be announced tonight. :)
I guess they are going to announce it Sunday at the PPV. Too bad my Buffalo Wild Wings doesnt show TNA PPV's

They put Abyss on the side, just to give Christian a shot at the title. Which I now believe he will walk away with after the PPV. It is very sad how they keep putting their own guys in the back for ex WWE guys.
Abyss owned everyone yesterday. He's awesome but i just hate how TNA has so many commercials. It makes me angry

If you take a look at the Vengeance the WWE title will be on the line. As it will be the Night of Champions looking at the current roster of RAW there is plenty of main eventers to take the title away from Cena. Kennedy, Lashley, King Booker, and Randy Orton. Only one is on the DL. I think the Cena reign will end at Vengeance. We also have some good news on the ECW championship. The match will be a Fatal Four Way Benoit vs. Punk vs. Burke vs. Marcus Cor Von.
That ECW match looks really good. Im really looking forward to it, but it better be Hardcore or im going to kill someone because ECW isnt ECW anymore, its WWECW

At Vengeance i hope Edge wins because i just dont like Batista as champion. He can only do so much and he never has any suprises. I just like Edge better.

For the Challenge match for the WWE championship if Cena wins then its totally bull****. In a real match with no scripts, all 4 of the other guys would gang beat Cena to get him out for good. Then they would wrestle to see who becomes the new champ. I hope its Randy Orton. I hope he wins and then keeps the belt until Summerslam when Triple H wins the belt and changes it back to the old one cuz the spinner is gay and stupid.

RedOrb_Collector

06-16-2007, 01:46

Mick Foley. If Mick Foley takes the belt from Cena that would be awesome. I would rather Randy get another shot at it but its not likely to happen since he is a heel.

(yet he gets more cheers than Cena, strange huh? /sarcasm)

AJJets107

06-16-2007, 02:15

\At Vengeance i hope Edge wins because i just dont like Batista as champion. He can only do so much and he never has any suprises. I just like Edge better.

For the Challenge match for the WWE championship if Cena wins then its totally bull****. In a real match with no scripts, all 4 of the other guys would gang beat Cena to get him out for good. Then they would wrestle to see who becomes the new champ. I hope its Randy Orton. I hope he wins and then keeps the belt until Summerslam when Triple H wins the belt and changes it back to the old one cuz the spinner is gay and stupid.

I have a feeling if Randy Orton is in the match next Sunday he will win and feud with Triple H. WWE was saying that Edge will mostly liking getting a long title reign so I doubt Batista will win next sunday.

Mick Foley. If Mick Foley takes the belt from Cena that would be awesome. I would rather Randy get another shot at it but its not likely to happen since he is a heel.

(yet he gets more cheers than Cena, strange huh? /sarcasm)

I think the chances of Foley to win is very slim. He is probably there to job to Cena. If you read it above if Randy Orton is in the match he will probably win and feud with Triple H.

Maddog911

06-16-2007, 03:10

If you read it above if Randy Orton is in the match he will probably win and feud with Triple H.
Ive been saying that when Triple H comes back he is going to start a fued with Randy Orton in time for Summerslam for almost a month now. Its the perfect rivalry because they are the most popular in my opinion. Some could say that Cena is more known but the only people that still like him are little kids and girls

Blu-Ray

06-16-2007, 04:35

I used to like him.... the guys is a superstar.. just overused. [cena]

I would like to see Foley get the championship back.

RedOrb_Collector

06-16-2007, 05:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQyad8VmUs

I found this vid to be a great stress reliever. : )

Blu-Ray

06-17-2007, 00:52

LOL..... well, I think Cena's next rivalry will be Lashley. I don't know about you guys, but I'll wo0t for Bobby.

RedOrb_Collector

06-17-2007, 01:04

Yes. I will w00t for Lashley too....maybe why I haven't liked Lashley as much as I used to is because he hasn't had a real rival, (Umaga was a semi-rival)

But with Cena he will have a true reason for rivalry. WWE Gold. PLEASE LASHLEY OR KENNEDY, ANYONE WHO TAKES THE BELT, PLEASE HAVE IT REMODELED!

crash323

06-17-2007, 01:09

Major Update On The Undertaker Including WWE Return

Source: PWInsider.com

The Undertaker has been busy recovering from surgery to repair his torn biceps. In todays The Coloradoan said that The Undertaker and a partner have begun buying $2.7 million dollars in real estate to plan and build an upscale office building.

The article said that The Undertaker is preparing for a post-wrestling life with the venture. The Undertaker told the newspaper "(Real estate) is a new adventure for me". "I've done wrestling (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184022666.shtml#) for 20 years; I know most of the answers."

The article also noted that The Undertaker isn’t expected to be back from his surgery for five months. So it look’s like we will see The Undertaker making a return around October.

RedOrb_Collector

06-17-2007, 01:14

Interesting. I wonder what Calloway plans to do after retiring.

crash323

06-17-2007, 01:53

Can I get your guys opinions on which PS3 cover of WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008 LOOKS BETTER?

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/PS3/5165-orig.jpg

OR THIS ONE

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/PS3/5154-orig.jpg

RedOrb_Collector

06-17-2007, 01:58

The second one because Kennedy is in it and Cena isn't.

Blu-Ray

06-17-2007, 03:08

You got a point there... :lol:

I like the second one better by the way.

c.a.p

06-17-2007, 04:22

The first boxart looks more like something that would actually be on the cover in my opinion.

Knuckles126

06-17-2007, 05:32

I have a question that must be answered: why is that poser John Cena STILL the WWE champion?! I mean, wtf? Kalii (spelling?) being the giant that he is, should be able to squash Cena...

They seriously need to let someone else have the belt...its getting old.

Maddog911

06-17-2007, 05:32

I have to agree with c.a.p. because the second one has too many pictures to focus on and not one big picture in the middle. Also why is Shelton Benjamin, Kane, and Carlito on there? They arent very big wrestlers as far a storylines go. Kane is tthe biggest out of the three though. In the second its just too much to focus on. The first one is focused on Randy Orton which like and it has HHH and HBK on it. I dont mind Cena on it because he is sort of the face of WWE and the red sort of blurs him out of the picture. Anyway the first one gets my vote

Blu-Ray

06-17-2007, 05:52

The first one is kinda biased.... 2 SD! vs 4 Raw...

RedOrb_Collector

06-17-2007, 16:40

3 for Smackdown if you count Edge about to be FU'd....lol

Blu-Ray

06-17-2007, 19:48

lol... I didn't even see him..

Looks like Undertaker is returning on Halloween possibly?

RAW Picks:
Brian Kendrick
Paul London
The Sandman
Daivari
William Regal

SmackDown! Picks:
The Major Brothers
Hardcore Holly
Kenny Dykstra

ECW Picks:
Viscera
The Miz

These are the draft picks for todays draft. Smackdown just hit the lotto! The Major Brothers are AWESOME, along with Hardcore Holly and Kenny!

LOL @ ECWs picks.]

RAW did a good job though.

AJJets107

06-17-2007, 22:45

Why is it Smackdown vs. Raw 08. Why can't it be WWE vs. ECW or Smackdown vs. Raw vs. ECW?

MarKoNiO

06-18-2007, 01:01

OMG SD! is crippled now damn...

No Undertaker, Kennedy, Booker, Benoit, London and Kendrick.........

SD! oficially sucks now, expect for Edge of course....

Johny Nitro went to ECW....

Maddog911

06-18-2007, 01:19

The first one is kinda biased.... 2 SD! vs 4 Raw...
Well SD! sucks and it sucks even worse now. I still wont watch it so my views dont change

lol... I didn't even see him..

Looks like Undertaker is returning on Halloween possibly?

RAW Picks:
Brian Kendrick
Paul London
The Sandman
Daivari
William Regal

SmackDown! Picks:
The Major Brothers
Hardcore Holly
Kenny Dykstra

ECW Picks:
Viscera
The Miz

These are the draft picks for todays draft. Smackdown just hit the lotto! The Major Brothers are AWESOME, along with Hardcore Holly and Kenny!

LOL @ ECWs picks.]
Well Johny Nitro went to ECW
Jillian Hall went to RAW
and Victoria went to SD!
This draft thing is stupid because none of the big names got drafted or moved except Lashley, Beniot, King Booker, and ill throw in Mr. Kennedy. Ric Flairr is just old i want him to retire

Why is it Smackdown vs. Raw 08. Why can't it be WWE vs. ECW or Smackdown vs. Raw vs. ECW?
ECW is worthless because its not Extreme anymore. Its owned by the WWE and it would be stupid to have a game named after all three brands. Its just too long

Blu-Ray

06-18-2007, 16:11

SD! Doesn't suck..... they got rid of all the worthless (by that I mean people who don't really fit in SD!, other than Kennedy who was sent to RAW to help them with their injuries.) people and brought in some fresh new talent. Johnny Nitro is good.... why send him to ECW!!! Dammit.

UnReaL

06-18-2007, 20:25

@Crash. First Cover. Its time for a new Star to Shine, and why not Orton? But with all the wrestlers RAW has, someone's gonna get pushed back, and that will be Orton because of all his screw ups.

RAW Picks:
Brian Kendrick
Paul London
The Sandman
Daivari
William Regal

SmackDown! Picks:
The Major Brothers
Hardcore Holly
Kenny Dykstra

ECW Picks:
Viscera
The Miz

Once again WWE and Vince, screw up the draft. Paul London? Why? He is a light weight. He belongs on Smackdown with all the light weights. He will hardly see any action.

The Sandman? Well ECW is not what it once was, but its o.k for them to take the originals away? WWE payed these guys to return to ECW, so people who loved ECW knew some of the guys on the roster, and now their taking them away?

Once again Smackdown gets its roster torn apart. Orton should have made his way to Smackdown. In a 2 hours shows, they put on like 6-7 matches. Unless they do a bunch of mini rumbles alot of top stars won't see any ring time or T.V time. RAW roster is over crowded with stars, and to keep them there makes absolutely no sense.

This draft thing is stupid because none of the big names got drafted or moved except Lashley, Beniot, King Booker, and ill throw in Mr. Kennedy. Ric Flairr is just old i want him to retireExactly. RAW gets the stars, and everyone else gets nothing to help their shows.

BTW I agree on Flair. But he can't because he owes the IRS lots and lots of cash. So he's gonna work until he dies in the ring.

As for the Smackdown vs. RAW games.
They have been completely stupid. Its like the Madden games. The same thing over and over with updated Rosters (not fully either). They still leave tons of wrestlers out. Also with the Legends. They sign Legends for a year, than don't have some for the next game. Ex. LOD. They have LOD in the 2007 version, but not the 2008 version.

I hate creating wrestlers just so my rosters can stay up to date. They need to fix this badly. Why can't we go online and upload created wrestlers from other users?

I could go on and on, but won't. THQ and Yukes need to add and make the Game refreshed with new content, and not just updated graphics.

Blu-Ray

06-18-2007, 21:04

Well, I am glad that the Miz is off of Smackdown. Know, everytime we would see him now, it would be the Master Piece or Kenny.

Edge vs Batista
D&D vs TMB - possible
MVP vs Ric Flair
The stupid CW division crap.

Smackdown is looking pretty good in my opinion.

UnReaL

06-18-2007, 21:13

Anyone watch TNA's Slammiversery? I forgot all about it. Looking at the results I'm happy Kurt is the Champion. Still think it should have been styles. But its still good to see Kurt hold that title.

Blu-Ray

06-18-2007, 21:20

RAW Picks:
Brian Kendrick
Paul London
The Sandman
Daivari
William Regal
Jillian Hall

SmackDown! Picks:
The Major Brothers
Hardcore Holly
Kenny Dykstra
Victoria
Eugene

ECW Picks:
Viscera
The Miz
Johnny Nitro

Thats the full list

Anyone watch TNA's Slammiversery? I forgot all about it. Looking at the results I'm happy Kurt is the Champion. Still think it should have been styles. But its still good to see Kurt hold that title.

Read this (http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007/articles/1182155739.php) for the results

RedOrb_Collector

06-18-2007, 21:21

AJ Styles needs to have the belt soon.

Blu-Ray

06-18-2007, 21:22

AJ Styles needs to go to the WWE one day.... I just don't really like TNA that much. Seeing him on SD! or RAW would make me a happy person.

The decision to move Mr. Kennedy to Raw was made because Triple H was "crying" that there weren't enough heels on the brand. This move indicates that not only is Kennedy not returning as a major babyface to chase Edge for the World Title he was supposed to have won from Undertaker with his MINB shot, but he's also returning to Raw to be a heel, likely to be fed to Triple H. All of this is subject to change, but some people are probably going to be very upset in the next few months.
The decision to move Chris Benoit to ECW was a bit odd because on Raw they had just hyped up a Benoit vs. Lashley feud for the ECW Title, and now that was suddenly all out the window. However, one source is saying that in the end, probably by mid-fall, Benoit is probably going to end up on Raw after all, so they can restart the feud at that point perhaps leading up to WrestleMania.
King Booker moved to Raw because he feuded with pretty much everyone on SmackDown. He now has new people to work with. He'll likely stick to being a heel instead of going babyface because Raw is light on the heel side as Randy Orton and Umaga are the only other major heels at the moment. Mr. Kennedy will likely be a babyface upon his return, and then turn heel when its time for him to feud with Triple H.

UnReaL

06-18-2007, 21:36

AJ Styles needs to go to the WWE one day.... I just don't really like TNA that much. Seeing him on SD! or RAW would make me a happy person.

I don't like TNA that much either, but knowing WWE they would probably mess up AJ's career. McMahon would probably only see him as a U.S or IC champ.

Blu-Ray

06-18-2007, 21:41

Ya, you got a point there.

That's the thing I don't like about the WWE... there's too many worthless superstars. They need to bring back feuds that don't exactly have any titles invovled as well..

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 04:19

It was so refreshing to see Orton pick up a win against lame ass superman and the hulk tonight.

The decision to move Mr. Kennedy to Raw was made because Triple H was "crying" that there weren't enough heels on the brand. This move indicates that not only is Kennedy not returning as a major babyface to chase Edge for the World Title he was supposed to have won from Undertaker with his MINB shot, but he's also returning to Raw to be a heel, likely to be fed to Triple H. All of this is subject to change, but some people are probably going to be very upset in the next few months.

What do they actually mean by 'fed' and also that people are going to be upset?

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 04:20

Seriously, I literally threw my arms up in the air when Stephy said..."I LOVE YOU DAD". I was so surprised...

KENNEEEDDDY

EDIT: Superman? Don't you mean "SuperCena"?

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 04:21

Huh? Surprised at what exactly...?

edit: yeah I guess Supercena....but what would I call Lashley if I did that?

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 04:29

I don't know.... nonehumanrobotwrestlerwithterriblemicskillz.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 04:32

The decision to move Mr. Kennedy to Raw was made because Triple H was "crying" that there weren't enough heels on the brand. This move indicates that not only is Kennedy not returning as a major babyface to chase Edge for the World Title he was supposed to have won from Undertaker with his MINB shot, but he's also returning to Raw to be a heel, likely to be fed to Triple H. All of this is subject to change, but some people are probably going to be very upset in the next few months.

Again what do you think they mean by the bolded?

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 04:38

Fed.... given to Triple H to feud with.

People are going to be upset because HHH was suppose to feud with Randy Orton.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 04:38

Kennedy has been ruined. He's never going to get the push he would have gotten if he had remained on Smackdown. I meas, what the hell were they thinking? Making him a heel on Raw? This is sickening. He should be a main eventer. Now he'll be lucky if he ever even gets so much as a shot at the SuperCena Championship. At least he had a chance on Smackdown. It's impossible to get any sort of a push on Raw unless McMahon wishes for it to happen. I'm just so pissed right now.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 04:40

Ah so you are Kennedict like Blu Ray and I. Don't worry, he has PLENTY of time.

He is going to get his shot, no worries. Mcmahon is supposedly a fan of Kennedy.

And I don't see why people would be upset over hhh feuding with kennedy instead of orton.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 04:50

It's just so annoying. Did you see how the crowd reacted as he made his entrance? And they made him a heel? Sometimes I feel as though I could make better decisions than the WWE. Hell, sometimes I feel as though a chimp could do better than the damn writers they have.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 04:57

Sadly I missed his entrance, but I saw the rest of his segment.

Trust me, a face turn is in his future. He will probably win the royal rumble(which would be the ultimate compliment) and then choose to face Edge.

But anyway that's the great thing about Kennedy is that despite being a heel he has very audible cheers going his way.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 05:17

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 05:19

Yeah true....Vince does seem to like Kennedy, but Vince is also obsessed with big muscle freaks. Sadly that means Lashley will have a title run well before Kennedy does.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 05:22

I've heard that Kennedy and Vince played GOLF together acouple weeks ago...of course, that may be a rumor.

But, seriously, That RAW CHALLENGE match is going to be awesome this Sunday (I think it's this Sunday). I can feel the atmosphere starting to change in the WWE.... reminds me a lot of the 90's/Early 2000's.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 05:27

How long was Hogan in the business before he lost his 'invincibility' and cleanly lost a match?

I'm just trying to estimate how long it will take for Cena's lame ass to get pinned....

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 05:30

I really don't know... I was either not alive or a small baby at the time I guess.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 05:35

All I know is Ultimate Warrior was the first guy to cleanly pin Hogan since he became a huge star.

Well interesting huh..? Hulk Hogan was a crappy wrestler but a great character and Ultimate Warrior was a crappy wrestler but a great character.

So lets look at the situation....Cena is a crappy wrestler and an ok character and bobby lashley is an ok wrestler and a crappy character.....so maybe that is the ticket right there?

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 05:39

LOL.... I don't see Lashley being that crappy character you're talking about in the future. The WWE isn't stupid... they will see that Lashley doesn't have any mic skills at WILL and will force him to make a change. That would be great, but as for Cena, well, all hope is lost for him lol.

And did you hear what happened when he was talking about Plummers and Teachers and Preachers? Someone said "You Suck" so loud, that I thought it was Orton himself saying it. :lol:

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 05:41

Hell yeah I heard that! lol It was hilarious!

edit: I can't believe I called cena an ok character.....I hate his character...I actually should have said mic skills specifically.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 05:44

At this point I honestly do not care who the champ is on Raw anymore as long as it isn't Cena. I would have even taken Khali as champ just so that the belt could be taken off of Cena. At one time I could have said I enjoyed watching him, but he's gotten beyond stale. When you don't count those little midget month long reigns between Cena's he's held the title for more than two years. Everyone is sick of him. I just do not understand how the WWE can't realize this.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 05:52

If the WWE is smart, they would give the world title to Triple H when he returns. The man literally owns RAW...... he's the game man.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 05:54

Triple H is going to have another run....he always will I imagine. He is just the best in the business.

takslatah

06-19-2007, 06:08

I'm not trying to get flamed here but why does everyone who posts here hate Cena? Just curious because I have been a fan of his since he started in the WWE.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 06:10

I've never been able to say that I don't like Triple H. He's just always been entertaining, especially when he's a heel in my opinion. He's simply the perfect heel champion.

I'm not trying to get flamed here but why does everyone who posts here hate Cena? Just curious because I have been a fan of his since he started in the WWE.

He's held the title far too long and has gotten very, very stale.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 06:12

@ takslatah

Cena's wrestling skills are atrocious and his promos are meh at best and he has been champion for WAAAAYYY TOO LONG.

He is the only face champion to ever be booed so audibly week after week on RAW.

Basically he is not championship material. That's why.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 06:15

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 06:21

He's good as a midcarder....so if that's what you mean by small doses I agree.

He should never have top gold around his waist again.

c.a.p

06-19-2007, 06:27

He's good as a midcarder....so if that's what you mean by small doses I agree.

He should never have top gold around his waist again.

Exactly. Remember when he was US Champ on Smackdown? That was the perfect fit for him in my opinion.

BingBing

06-19-2007, 06:29

ok this is the first time i saw this thread but any way is mcman really dead or is this some bull. i dont feel like reading through pages to get my answer.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 06:32

Hell no. Mcmahon is alive and well. This is just some silly storyline.

Think of it this way. If he was really dead it would be all over the news.

Maddog911

06-19-2007, 06:59

I agree with C.A.P, on RAW, Kennedy just doesn't seem to fit in. Even though he deserves the world title, Vince (yes, he's still alive) is still pushing everything through Cena and Lashley....

2008, Wrestlemania... I can see Kennedy vs HHH/Cena/Edge/Lashley/Undertaker (I hope so).
I can see Triple H vs John Cena at WM24 for the WWE Title. I dont even know why Kennedy is even in there

How long was Hogan in the business before he lost his 'invincibility' and cleanly lost a match?

I'm just trying to estimate how long it will take for Cena's lame ass to get pinned....
Well Cena will not get cleanly beaten or pinned this Sunday. Cena's goin in with the belt and coming out with the belt.....sadly. I hate him so much. What an *******!!!

All I know is Ultimate Warrior was the first guy to cleanly pin Hogan since he became a huge star.

Well interesting huh..? Hulk Hogan was a crappy wrestler but a great character and Ultimate Warrior was a crappy wrestler but a great character.

So lets look at the situation....Cena is a crappy wrestler and an ok character and bobby lashley is an ok wrestler and a crappy character.....so maybe that is the ticket right there?
Well Batista is a crappy wrestler and a good character so maybe he'll be the first to beat Cena(even though they are on separate brands). Another on my list to pin Cena is either Randy Orton or HHH, i hope. But if worst comes to worst, id rather have Mr. Kennedy beat Cena than have him as champ. yes, suprisingly, im siding with Kennedy in that matchup, but hes behind Randy Orton and HHH

If the WWE is smart, they would give the world title to Triple H when he returns. The man literally owns RAW...... he's the game man.
Triple H is going to jump into RAW with a def. title shot right away. I just really hope they start a fued with Randy and The Game for the WWE Title. That is, of course Cena loses the title to Orton or Cena gets killed and it vacates the title.
Why couldnt Cena have been in that limo:cuss

I'm not trying to get flamed here but why does everyone who posts here hate Cena? Just curious because I have been a fan of his since he started in the WWE.
1. He cant wrestle at all. He has 4 moves that he does
2. Every match of his ends the same way.......him winning
3. hes been champ for 2 years now with the exception of Edge for a month or two last year
and 4. the only people that like him are little kids and girls

Exactly. Remember when he was US Champ on Smackdown? That was the perfect fit for him in my opinion.
Agreed. Cena wouldve been prefect staying as the US Champ. More people liked him. He couldve been like a Carlito

Yea Mr. McMahon is not dead. If he wouldve really died than it would be all over the news and everyone wouldve heard about it. I mean come on, who is the WWE reallly trying to fool here

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 15:42

Yeah.....sadly Cena will NOT lose the belt at Vengeance. Since JR already said 'the odds are stacked against Cena retaining the belt' ......That just means Cena will win again.

So where can Cena go now that he's beaten The Great Khali? Well he can turn super saiyan and beat 4 other guys at the same time....

GOD DAMN YOU CENA YOU SUCK SO MUCH!!!!

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/2658/johncenasuckslf9.jpg
:lol:

UnReaL

06-19-2007, 19:54

LOL, I love that Picture ROC. Its just hilarious everytime I see it.

I'm not trying to get flamed here but why does everyone who posts here hate Cena? Just curious because I have been a fan of his since he started in the WWE.

I don't hate him, I just don't see him as a champion. Like people said, he has been champion way too long, and people are getting tired of it because it seems forced to the fans.

ok this is the first time i saw this thread but any way is mcman really dead or is this some bull. i dont feel like reading through pages to get my answer.

Its all a storyline, like others said. Dang this would be a good time for coolguy to come in and post his reply. HAHA!

I can see Triple H vs John Cena at WM24 for the WWE Title. I dont even know why Kennedy is even in there

I see the exact same thing. As for Kennedy he will win the Royal Rumble and make his way back to Smackdown and take the title. Unless Kennedy becomes huge than he'll stay on RAW. He popularity should grow if WWE does it right, and should grow big because he's on RAW.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 21:04

Kennedy got another huge pop yesterday on RAW when he came out and then he did his job as a heel and got good heat immediately after. lol. Kennedy does his job as heel well, but that doesn't seem to stop the fans from cheering him everytime he comes down the ramp.

The next Austin or Rock he will be, you heard it here. Just wait till that face turn, possibly during a feud with The Game himself.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 22:25

Kennedy just has that arrogant attitude that only people like HHH and Edge have - and look what they are doing. The only thing that's holding Kennedy back is Cena.

Maybe they could have Cena blow up Vince's Limo and strip him of the title. :)

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 22:32

Man I just realized how big a deal it will be when Cena does finally lose the belt.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 22:33

I beat the entire arena will explode of relief when they realize that Cena isn't Champ anymore. Much like myself and other Kennedicts out there....>_>...

MikeAaronB

06-19-2007, 22:48

I beat the entire arena will explode of relief when they realize that Cena isn't Champ anymore. Much like myself and other Kennedicts out there....>_>...

Kenne...dicts? Um...

*Head asplode.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 22:49

Mr.Kennedy fans. Much like EdgeHeads.... made I feel dorky now. :lol:

MikeAaronB

06-19-2007, 22:51

Mr.Kennedy fans. Much like EdgeHeads.... made I feel dorky now. :lol:

Yeah, I know, but Kennedict just sounds... >_>

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 22:59

Kennedicts? What about it? Its just like Jerichoholics.

360 is GARBAGE

06-19-2007, 23:18

I like John Cena, hes the coolest wigger I ever seen in my life.

Blu-Ray

06-19-2007, 23:20

LOL, your 57 years old.... what you know about Cena? :lol:

360 is GARBAGE

06-19-2007, 23:26

Man John Cena is cool, hes all like....you cant see me son!!! That guy is cool, back in my day we had no cool ppl like him, only Andre The Giant but he was scary.

RedOrb_Collector

06-19-2007, 23:27

lol. You must be joking. It was funny though I admit.

360 is GARBAGE

06-19-2007, 23:29

The other guy I like is Carlos? Something like that, hes like..."thats cool :)" Then eats an apple, Cena + Carlos = orgy.

MarKoNiO

06-20-2007, 03:56

That was a cool RAW, London and Kendrik kick some serious arse...
And the main event was interesting too, It always nice when the heels get a clean win.

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 05:12

Yeah its nice when heels win fair and square.....but obviously WWE would not let Superman Cena be the one to be pinned....

Maddog911

06-20-2007, 06:46

I beat the entire arena will explode of relief when they realize that Cena isn't Champ anymore. Much like myself and other Kennedicts out there....>_>...
Well i hate Cena and Kennedy. But i hate Cena more just because he cant rap or wrestle.

Man John Cena is cool, hes all like....you cant see me son!!! That guy is cool, back in my day we had no cool ppl like him, only Andre The Giant but he was scary.
He doesnt really mean any of this. Hes just tryin to bust our balls because this is basically a Cena Hate Thread

Yeah its nice when heels win fair and square.....but obviously WWE would not let Superman Cena be the one to be pinned....
No never. *John Cena getting pinned in a title match. I cant even dream about this happening*Sarcasm*

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 14:37

Why do yo hate Kennedy so much???? He is one of the best in the WWE in my opinion.

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 16:17

Just let it be blu ray. Everyone has their opinions.

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 16:25

Here is the spoiler for Smackdown this friday:

Dark match: Brett & Brian Majors defeated WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champions Deuce & Domino (w/ Cherry) in a non-title match at 4:44 when Deuce was pinned with a roll up after the other Major brother pulled Domino off the ring apron as he attempted to interfere. Fine match but all the heat came from the champions. At one point, Domino turned to the crowd and yelled "Deuce and Domino!" and was booed out of the building. After the match, the champions held their belts in the air to the same reaction.

Smackdown!

The show opens with The Cutting Edge. The topic of discussion - who killed Vince McMahon? Edge mentions it's often the person you least suspect, with him then calling for Torrie Wilson to come out. Edge mentions the past between Vince and Torrie and the recent altercation on Raw a few weeks back with her, Flair, and Vince. As Torrie stands there not sure what to say, MVP appears, wearing a suit, and begins to sympathize with Torrie before calling her a liar. This leads to Ric Flair appearing, who received the pop of the night. Flair gets in the ring and comes face-to-face with MVP before decking him but is eventually double teamed by MVP and Edge, leading to Batista running out to make the save. And you have the buildup for the night's main event tag team match - Flair & Batista vs. MVP & Edge

Teddy Long is shown backstage speaking with Vickie Guerrero. The audio went out but it appeared as though he was praising her idea for the night's main event tag team match.

WWE Cruiserweight Champion Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Jamie Noble defeated Jimmy Wang Yang & Shannon Moore at 6:13 when Chavo pinned Moore with a Gory Bomb. Good match. Moore got the hot tag and cleaned house, with Yang eventually hitting a somersault splash to the floor on Noble immediately before the finish. After the match, Yang motioned to Chavo he was coming for the belt.

Mark Henry defeated Sho Funaki via TKO with the bearhug at 2:14

We got a recap of the Vince McMahon car explosion. The first of many recaps throughout the night. This was followed by the WWE 24/7 "Right Now" music video, done just for the live crowd.

Long was again speaking with Vickie backstage in which he mentioned Vince's "death" and said life's too short and he would make an announcement later in the show regarding that. Kristal then appeared and Long said he wanted her to come out to the ring with him. If you're jumping to conclusions right now ... yeah, it's that.

Matt Hardy pinned Finlay at 17:08 with the Twist of Fate, moments after being hit in the leg with the shillelagh. Really solid match. Finlay worked Hardy's leg the entire time and ripped off his knee brace. It appeared at many times throughout the match that Matt was too hurt to continue but he hit a surprise Twist of Fate as the referee tried to get Hornswaggle out of the ring. I think the story told here really built Matt up as a singles player.

Long and Kristal come out to the ring and Long talks about how life is precious and too short and he doesn't want to continue his without Kristal. He gets down on his knee and pops the question but Kristal bursts out crying and after several awkward moments runs backstage. Long, confused, soon follows.

Chris Masters defeated Danny Shanley via submission with the Masterlock at 3:44

The Sensational Sherri still image was again shown. Apparently she couldn't get a memorial video package shown on Smackdown either.

Long is backstage knocking on Kristal's door. She eventually answers and is still crying. After several moments of Long apologizing for asking in front of the audience, Kristal agrees to marry Long and they hug. I call shenanigans.

The federal investigator updates us on the exploding limo. He won't go into specifics but says the DNA of three people was found inside the car - Vince, his driver, and "one other well known personality." Well that narrows it down...

Batista & Ric Flair defeated World Heavyweight Champion Edge & WWE US Champion MVP at 13:49 when Batista pinned Edge with the sit-down powerbomb after reversing Edge's spear into a spinebuster

Dark match after ECW: Batista defeated World Heavyweight Champion Edge via disqualification at 5:47 when the champion hit a low blow as Batista attempted the sit-down powerbomb. For a 5-minute match, it was pretty good. Edge brought the belt in, the referee takes it away, which was followed by near falls by both men. After the match, Edge attempts to hit Batista with the belt but is speared to send the fans home happy.

Hot crowd, as they usually are in the Carolinas, but it didn't appear to be sold out. Very close though. Flair and Batista were easily the top two babyfaces, and it was a close call as to who was more over. MVP had quite a few fans as well, at least in my section (and they were all kids).

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 16:32

MVP rocks. His talent is almost on par with Benoit's.

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 16:48

Agree.. I am just now starting to like his costume. :)

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 19:02

I've always liked his costume. Its just straight...*makes the shot* Ballin'.

:lol:

MarKoNiO

06-20-2007, 19:46

MVP is pure pwnage, very solid wreslter, the guys knows how to get the job done.

Also I like Elijah Burke and Marcus Cor Von more and more every day, specially Elijah, great mic skills and rocks in the ring.
It sucks he lost yesterday on ECW :(

I see MVP, Elijah, Kennedy and Edge totally dominating WWE in mid
2008.

Vengenace is this Sunday I think and It looks like a nice PPV, but I am not very hyped....

My predictions:

Melina vs Candice: Well Candice is on fire lately, and she is super hot and all, but I don`t think she will be champ quite yet.
Winner: Melina.

Chavo vs Jimmy: Man this division has been dead for a while now, it one of the best division on the WWE imo need some atention and a feud between this two could be interesting.
Winner : Jimmy

Cade and Murdoch vs the Hardys: RAW`s tag team division is awesome!
I think Matt and Jeff should be pushed as 1on1 wresltlers, RAW has plenty of tag teams to replace them, I can see Cade and Murdoch winning and then feuding against London and Kendrick.
Winners : Cade and Murdoch

MVP vs Ric Flair : COME ON WWE !!!! This guy is old damn, he needs to retire asap, this guy can`t help MVP`s push at all, just look at Carlito, he is screwed now because of FLair, please RETIRE OLD MAN!
Winner : MVP

Benoit vs the Punk : face vs face meh....I don`t like this match, Elijah should have been here, I think this match will be a boring one, but who nows, Benoit`s experience can make a decent show.
Winner : Benoit

Edge vs Batista last chance match, I would LOVE Edge to win again, but that last chance stipulation sounds bad, really bad, the faces always win this kind of matches, I hope i doesen`t happen this time.
Winner: EDGE by pinfall (Batista cries after the match... a man can dream can`t he ?:D )

Cena vs Orton vs Booker vs Foley Lashley : This match has potencial, so many big names there, It is almost impossible for this match to suck ! My analisis:

Lashley : He is the true face here, he can wreslte, he is fast and has crow support, however I don`t think he can be RAW champ yet, he need to improve his mic skills first ! and he was pinned by Orton on RAW...

Booker : He is a great wrestler, and his mic skills are solid, he is not going to win tho, I am sure.

Foley: He showed nothing is his match vs Umaga, he is funny and legend and all, but he can`t be the champ now, we need new blood.

Orton: He is on fire lately, defeating Flair, the mini rumble in the draft and Lashley last monday, he looks focused and ready to take over, but.......

Cena: Well what can I say, Cena will always be Cena, booed, cheered, doesen`t matter, he is the WWE`s superman after all isn`t he ? and he has to defeat Snitsky and Mark Henry later, he has to defeat every giant on the WWE, super CENA.
Winner : CENA (yeah it sucks but thats how things are Y_Y)

I think it`s going to be an OK event, nothing fancy, but entertaining to watch.

Cheers.

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 19:56

I like you predictions. I am going to give mines when I have the chance. :)

crash323

06-20-2007, 20:04

Huge Spoiler On Who Blew Up Vince's Limo

Source - PWInsider

At last night’s SmackDown taping in Charlotte, North Carolina it was announced that DNA was found in Mr. McMahon’s limo that exploded. They mentioned that a third strand was also found and was to be of another well known individual. They did not reveal the name.

This Vince McMahon storyline has to end soon because the FBI is threatning to sue the WWE by using false investigators and calling those people part of the FBI.

So here are my suspects on who blew up the Limo:
1. Mick Foley
2. Bobby Lashley

Details On Ron Killings & Konnan Leaving TNA

Source - PWInsider

In the early morning hours it was reported that both Konnan and Ron Killings had quit Total Nonstop Action wrestling (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184356345.shtml#). We now have more details on the situation.

This might be old news but for some who don't know Sensational Sherri as seen with HBK as an manager in the early 90's has passed away at age 49 R.I.P.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4d/125px-SherriShawn.jpg

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 20:08

Thank god that that horrid "Who killed Vince" storyline is almost over. I swear it takes up almost 50% of the shows!

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 20:10

Hell yeah it had potential but they overplayed it so thank god its ending soon.

UnReaL

06-20-2007, 20:58

I just copied your picks Markino since It looks 100% correct.

Melina vs Candice:
Winner: Melina.

Chavo vs Jimmy:
Winner : Jimmy

Cade and Murdoch vs the Hardys:
Winners : Cade and Murdoch
-They should not seperate the Hardy's. Look what happened the first time.

MVP vs Ric Flair :
Winner : MVP

Benoit vs the Punk :
Winner : Benoit
-Benoit's push for the Title.

Edge vs Batista
Winner: EDGE by pinfall

Cena vs Orton vs Booker vs Foley vs. Lashley :
Winner : CENA
-Cena will probably pin Booker or Foley.

They mentioned that a third strand was also found and was to be of another well known individual

Lashley has no hair, so I rule him out. I still believe it will be either Shane or Triple H.

This might be old news but for some who don't know Sensational Sherri as seen with HBK as an manager in the early 90's has passed away at age 49 R.I.P.

Yeah, Its old. Its still sad that they die so young. Probably alot of drugs, alcohol that escalated it, like alot of wrestlers.

MarKoNiO

06-20-2007, 23:13

OFFTOPIC post :

I am back from playing some Smackdown! vs Raw 2007, I have a few questions, maybe some of you guys played the game and can help me.

How can I challenge the legends ? I go to the bar in season mode and can see the supertars and legends matches, but i can`t challenge them, there`s no start/play option....

Any tip to win General Manager mode easily or fast? It`s pretty boring...

I finished the game Season mode on Legend difficulty (with EDGE :)) and still can`t unlock those options, also the ECW and Saturday Main Event arenas.

If any of you guys can answer some of the questions or know a forum or site, please tell me 8D.

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 23:17

I just copied your picks Markino since It looks 100% correct.

Melina vs Candice:
Winner: Melina.

Chavo vs Jimmy:
Winner : Jimmy

Cade and Murdoch vs the Hardys:
Winners : Cade and Murdoch
-They should not seperate the Hardy's. Look what happened the first time.

MVP vs Ric Flair :
Winner : MVP

Benoit vs the Punk :
Winner : Benoit
-Benoit's push for the Title.

Edge vs Batista
Winner: EDGE by pinfall

Cena vs Orton vs Booker vs Foley vs. Lashley :
Winner : CENA
-Cena will probably pin Booker or Foley.

Lashley has no hair, so I rule him out. I still believe it will be either Shane or Triple H.

Yeah, Its old. Its still sad that they die so young. Probably alot of drugs, alcohol that escalated it, like alot of wrestlers.

Funniest thing I've heard all day! :lol:

RedOrb_Collector

06-20-2007, 23:23

Ummm...why? What's so funny about it? :-|

Also how does someone find a strand of hair in a limo that was as scorched as that? Any hair samples should have been immediately erased in the fire...

this story has become ridiculous...

Blu-Ray

06-20-2007, 23:43

I don't, I just laughed at that for some reason.

Please.... this storyline is worse that "Who Shot JR?".

UnReaL

06-20-2007, 23:47

Blu-Ray

06-21-2007, 05:42

Yeah, GM Mode is boring after you start to lose your money.. which happens almost every time. :(

Maddog911

06-21-2007, 07:42

To beat GM mode easily is to turn off fatigue and play the same exact card everynight. Have your biggest superstars on the card and build rivalrys by playing the same matches but different types. You can change it up at PPV's but thats how i won

Knuckles126

06-21-2007, 08:00

I have to say, this McMahon is dead storyline has to be one of the worst in WWE history! :roll:

Wikipedia: "On June 11, 2007, WWE aired a segment at the end of RAW that featured McMahon (in character) entering a limousine moments before it exploded. The show went off-air shortly after, and WWE.com reported the angle as though it were a legitimate occurrence, proclaiming that McMahon was "presumed dead." Although this was the fate of the fictional Vince McMahon character, no harm came to the actual person (that is, his death was part of a storyline)."

Blu-Ray

06-21-2007, 22:25

Ya, I agree. It's also the most annoying. Even worse than the Chavo vs Rey feud. :roll:

UnReaL

06-22-2007, 00:33

Looks like the McMahon angle has worked. CNBC reports that the angle spiked the WWE website from 17 million views to 21 million views in one month.

Blu-Ray

06-22-2007, 00:36

Wow, thats insane! Now... just reveal the "killer" and get it over with. :(

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 01:20

agreed....lets just let it be triple h and be done with it.

c.a.p

06-22-2007, 01:57

If they really want to create controversy they'll make the bomber Muhammad Hassan. :D

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 02:09

OMG....that would make the story damn interesting.

Its sad Hassan was let go. He was a natural heel.

MarKoNiO

06-22-2007, 04:47

I think it was Shane :P

four five six seven

c.a.p

06-22-2007, 04:59

OMG....that would make the story damn interesting.

Its sad Hassan was let go. He was a natural heel.

Times like those make me seriously question where the WWE's brains are. They had time to pull that damn segment. Hell, they did it in the UK. If they hadn't let it run in the US he would still be around. How ****ing stupid...

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 05:01

I thought they didn't have time to pull it from the UK airing? Supposedly they played it with a warning before hand or something.

c.a.p

06-22-2007, 05:42

I thought they didn't have time to pull it from the UK airing? Supposedly they played it with a warning before hand or something.

I remember reading that the UK airing of Smackdown didn't have the whole "terrorist" thing. Maybe it did. The only way we'll know for sure is to get a WWE fan from the UK in here.

On a different note, only three more days until Cena's reign surpasses the length of his previous reign, JBL's, and Yokozuna's longest, each of which are tied with 280 days. :(

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 05:47

........that is complete bull....how many other people's reigns are they going to let him surpass?

c.a.p

06-22-2007, 05:56

........that is complete bull....how many other people's reigns are they going to let him surpass?

Think of it this way, his current title reign alone has already surpassed each of Undertaker's previous five championship reigns combined. But what I think is worse is the total amount of time he's held the title. So far he's at over 690 days.

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 06:02

You might as well say that it is two years....well....I have nothing more to say. (atm)

Maddog911

06-22-2007, 19:02

Thats the bs that im talkin about. Damn Mr. McMahon give someone else a run:cuss

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 22:15

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E6ZqMPz6sMU

lol I busted out laughing at this video.

AJJets107

06-22-2007, 22:43

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E6ZqMPz6sMU

lol I busted out laughing at this video.

LMAO I want to see this in the US not 5 year old kids and girls screaming on the top of there lungs. Hey guys check this out.

Link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-s_blbgvCPo&mode=related&search=

UnReaL

06-22-2007, 22:53

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E6ZqMPz6sMU

lol I busted out laughing at this video.

O damn, that was perfect harmony. They matched it perfectly with the song.

@AJjets
Now thats entertainment. The Kannanites will run wild on you............:D

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 22:55

That was actually one of my favorite moments of Kane. lol The Rock and Hogan looked scared in a 'wtf' sense.

XD

UnReaL

06-22-2007, 23:44

You can watch the Main event of Slammiversary here.
Part 1:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Slammiversary/video/x2b6ue_slammiversary-07-9

Part 2:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/tag/Slammiversary/search/Slammiversary/video/x2b7ln_slammiversary-07-10

Just started to watch it, since I've never seen a King of the Mountain match.

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 23:46

Didn't Kurt Angle win it?

UnReaL

06-22-2007, 23:56

Didn't Kurt Angle win it?

Yeah he did. But OMG!!! Watch the freakin match. AJ is a beast.

RedOrb_Collector

06-22-2007, 23:59

Alright. Thanks for posting it. I'll watch it shortly.

UnReaL

06-23-2007, 00:18

Alright. Thanks for posting it. I'll watch it shortly.

That was a great match. AJ was the best of the 5. The ending was kind of weak as the guy could have taken both out, and instead went for Cage only. But all together a great match that I've seen in a long time.

Maddog911

06-23-2007, 05:56

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E6ZqMPz6sMU

lol I busted out laughing at this video.
Lmao me and my friends do that at my Buffalo Wild Wings whenever he comes out every PPV. Actually we've done it longer than that video has been out. Way longer. We get about half of B-Dubs going along with us. the other half either stare at us or cheer cuz they're fag Cena fans

That was a great match. AJ was the best of the 5. The ending was kind of weak as the guy could have taken both out, and instead went for Cage only. But all together a great match that I've seen in a long time.
AJ is the best. He is the most athletic out of every person in TNA. I love him hes my favorite

Me and my friends run a Backyard Wrestling League on Youtube. We're getting a huge Supershow up very shortly. Ill give the link when its up and there is some very good comedy on it too. We have over 30 videos of wrestling on there but some of them are old. There are storylines and everything except we wrestle on two trampolines and the ground instead of a ring cuz we cant afford one

Blu-Ray

06-24-2007, 20:46

Oww God, I can't wait for Vegeance tonight....

RedOrb_Collector

06-24-2007, 20:55

Hell I completely forgot that it was on tonight.....guess that means I'm not excited for it.

*Cough*CenaWillWin*Cough*

Blu-Ray

06-24-2007, 20:57

If I can't watch it today, I will watch tomorrow for free.

:)

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 03:43

Go ahead with your major news man.

ps3isawesome

06-25-2007, 03:44

WWe is kind of old (post your new stuff blu) is the hulk retired ??

Behemoko

06-25-2007, 03:47

Just like I thought, no news.

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 03:47

the hulk....? yeah Hogan retired a couple of years ago.

ps3isawesome

06-25-2007, 03:48

lawl ... see thats how much im behind

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 04:04

Blu Ray where the hell is your big news?

Maddog911

06-25-2007, 04:35

So i saw it for free at my Buffalo Wild Wings. I dont know how to do the spoiler thing so if your reading this dont go any further

Winners are in Bold

1. The Hardys vs Cade and Murdoch for World Tag Team Titles

2. MVP vs Ric Flair for United States Championship

3. Chavo Guerrero vs Jimmy Wang Yang for Cruiserweight Belt

4. CM Punk vs Johnny Nitro for ECW Championship (Chris Benoit had a last minute family emergancy so he couldnt wrestle tonight. I thought that Johnny Nitro wreslted better than Chris Benoit could of. It was a really good match)

5. Umaga vs Santino Marella for Intercontinental Championship

6. Deuce and Domino vs Sargeant Slaughter and "Superfly" Jimmy Snuka for WWE Tag Team Titles

7. Melina vs Candice Michelle for Women's Championship

8. Edge vs Batista for World Heavyweight Championship

9. Mick Foley vs Bobby Lashley vs King Booker vs Randy Orton vs John Cena for WWE Title

1. Murdoch pushed Jeff off the turnbuckle going for a swanton bomb and then knocked down Matt outside the ring. In the ring Cade gave Jeff a sit down Rock Bottom for the win. I knew they were going to win cuz they are splitting up the Hardys

2. This match was boring. I dont even remember how MVP won

3. Chavo did his frog splash for the win

4. Johnny Nitro did the Rolling dice move from TNA on the ropes. CM Punk was between the middle and bottom rope and he did the move for the win. Really exciting match. Johnny Nitro is going to become really big and im happy

5. Umaga got DQ'd for punching Santino too long on the turnbuckle

6. This match was gay because of the old men and untalented Deuce and Domino. I dont remember how they won

7. Candice Michelle won with a running standing spinning elbow. It looked weak. candice was crying after she won the belt.

8. My favorite match out of the nine. At first Edge got DQ'd for low blowing Batista as Batista was getting him ready for the Batista bomb. As Edge was walking up the ramp Theodore Long came out and said to get back in the ring and either pin or submit. So he gets back in. They fight for a little bit and Batista throws Edge out of the ring and gives him a Batista Bomb on the outside of the ring. Batista picks him up to put him in the ring for the pin and the ref calls the ten count as Edge rolls in the ring. Therefore Edge successfully defended.

9. This match was short and stupid. Bobby Lashley got owned. All he did was spear Randy Orton. Lashley got FU'd through the announcer table and he got hit with a chair from Mick Foley. At first everyone ganged up on Randy Orton so he was out for the first 5 minutes. So King Booker and Cena are the ones in the ring after Mick gets thrown over the steps. Booker T gives him his scissor kick and Cena gets right up from it and does a move. He is the worst at selling moves. So as Cena is about to do his Five Knuckle ******. Orton comes in and RKO's Cena. Lashley comes in and spears Orton. Then Mick comes in and hits Lashley, Orton and Cena with a chair. Booker is already out of the ring befoer this happened. So after Cena took 3 match ending shots. He gets up and FU's Mick Foley for the win. It was way too short and the worst ending. Cena wins:sleep:

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 04:42

F Cena again. This time not for winning (because we knew he would) but for not selling pain as you said.

He really sucks man....after all this time he still acts like a rookie in the ring.

Maddog911

06-25-2007, 04:49

Yea it was horrible. Another thing that made me laugh was after Randy Orton RKO'd Cena, the ref hit his hand on the mat three times. I heard it and so did all my friends. The third time was an accident because they wanted to make it dramatic. I was up cheering and then they were still wrestling and i was pissed. Randy really won

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 04:53

bull****. You are telling me the ref actually hit the three count and the third was by accident?!

Damn....Randy got screwed.

Maddog911

06-25-2007, 05:00

Yea the ref went too far down and hit the mat on the third count. I was so mad. Like i said i was up cheering. Dam ref you screwed up

crash323

06-25-2007, 21:10

WWE Champion John Cena Leaving WWE?

source: PWInsider.com

- WWE Champion John Cena has been telling people that he has a script in hand for a new WWE Films production that will begin filming in the fall. It will not be a sequel to The Marine.

If and when this thing does come to play, he'll most definitely have to take some time off from his WWE duties to shoot the film, or else face the burden of an incredibly taxing schedule. At the very least, he'll have to scale back on house shows and such. It should be interesting to see if he does what he did when he filmed The Marine in late 2004 where he'd fly out to Australia every week to film the movie, and then hop back on the plane to go back to the U.S. to appear at WWE shows.

This means He has to lose the WWE title SOONER than Later. My pick is RANDY ORTON!!

Big Heel Push for RAW Star

Source: PWtorch and Wrestling Observer

- There are people in WWE that think Gene Snitsky, due to his size and scary look, can be like Kane as a heel. As previously posted, the current plan has Snitsky getting a push, and in 2008, facing John Cena in a title program.

WWE Wrestlers Separated From Girlfriend Due To Draft

Source: Wrestling (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184653310.shtml#) Observer Newsletter

Due to the recent draft moves, several of WWE’s (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184653310.shtml#) real-life unmarried couples have been broken up.

Kenny Dyskstra & Mickie James (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184653310.shtml#) are just one of the pairs that has been separated, followed by Johnny Nitro & Melina. Also note, Dykstra & James are currently engaged. It’s also being said that Bobby Lashley & SmackDown Diva Kristal Marshall were also an item, but they too have been broken up from being together on the road due to Lashley's move to RAW. Seeing how SmackDown and ECW worked the same shows, they were on the same schedule and able to be together on the road.

There's also another WWE couple in CM Punk (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/headlines/184653310.shtml#) and Maria. Although, they were broken up the minute Punk was brought up to the main roster last June.

RedOrb_Collector

06-25-2007, 21:17

Cena won't lose the belt.....he seems greedy enough that he'll hang on to the belt even with a daunting schedule. Either that or Vince is greedy/stupid enough to keep the belt on him.

c.a.p

06-25-2007, 23:19

According to WWE.com Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their home. I doubt WWE would go this far...

Blu-Ray

06-25-2007, 23:24

OMG! Cena won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ.... *speechless*

Chris died? Wow..... Eddie, and now Chris..... RIP

c.a.p

06-25-2007, 23:39

WWE.com says that Raw will be dedicated to him tonight.

Blu-Ray

06-25-2007, 23:41

Wow.. that sucks. He was one of te greatest of all time. It's wrong that the WWE is still going to use that stupid "who killed vince" storyline, and it doesn't really help when SuperCena is the Champion.

Mist

06-25-2007, 23:51

RIP Chris, I cannot beleive this.

Colsworl™

06-25-2007, 23:53

Crap, I can't believe it. He was one of my favourite wrestlers on WWE. It says on wwe.com that his family are dead too? This is real sad. I wonder what happend.

I hope they cancel the McMahon storyline because of this.

R.I.P. BENOIT

Blu-Ray

06-25-2007, 23:53

Well, we have to move on. As wrong as this sounds, it'll set up a chance for superstars like Burke and Nitro on ECW...

Mist

06-26-2007, 00:05

At least Eddie and Benoit get to be together again, this is so sad.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 00:05

Mist

06-26-2007, 00:16

Have you got any more info on that family emergency, I don't watch WWE anymore so am behind.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 00:19

That does sound kinda weird.... really does sound like a murder to me. :(

WWE needs to cut the crap with Vince NOW.

c.a.p

06-26-2007, 01:05

The Vince story was ended, and rightfully so. This is so ****ed up. RIP Chris Benoit, you will forever be missed. :cry:

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 01:10

I turned on RAW excited as hell, wanting to see how this Vince storyline would play put.

The excitement got killed in seconds.

UnReaL

06-26-2007, 01:12

Wow, just come home and I found out about Chris. Than I see it was him and his family. Can't believe this:cry:. This has to be some crime. Its sad that the McMahon storyline about death, and than a real tragedy involving death with one of the best wrestlers of all time.

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 01:16

I told my mom and she immediately said Murder-Suicide. :roll:

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 01:19

Wow, I forgot that RAW was even on.... I am watching it right now.

Shadow780

06-26-2007, 01:41

R.I.P Chris and your family, I hope you find peace.

coolguy

06-26-2007, 01:44

i just truned on raw and saw this i though this was part of
the story rip chris

C.T.E.

06-26-2007, 02:16

Just saw this on the news. Don't watch wrestling anymore, but RIP to a fellow Canadian and his family. You will be missed.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 02:23

Wow, I haven't seen Dean Melenko in a long time.... I feel sorry for the man. He lost Eddie AND Chris...

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 02:24

Poor Dean. He lost 2 of his best friends of 15 years in the past 2 years.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 02:28

It's a shame that some people think it's fake due to recent events...... I think that was a terrible decision by the WWE.

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 02:48

I want to reach into the television and give Chavo a huge hug.

....What? I'm not gay!

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 02:52

Yea, I kinda do too.

BTW, RAW was canceled for the ones who don't know.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 02:57

Chavo's speech tore me up....

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 02:59

I know....

http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/imgs/mainpage/benoit.jpg
for anyone who wants to wear it I guess.

TH3JOK3R003

06-26-2007, 03:27

this is so heart breaking, how could something happen to him. he was like one the coolest wrestlers in WWE. Edge is breaking down like crazy

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 03:28

Yea.... with him being a heel an all, that would be the last person you would expect to cry.

TH3JOK3R003

06-26-2007, 03:29

Yea.... with him being a heel an all, that would be the last person you would expect to cry.
that's the same thing i was saying, it was surprising

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 03:34

I am not trying to be mean or anything, but I hope Smackdown and ECW aren't cancelled tomorrow.... we all need to move on at sometime.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 03:36

Edge's speech was just as moving as Chavo's. Beautiful....

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 03:38

Man, I hope they got in contact with Jericho. I want to see him again.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 03:38

Thank GOD Triple H isn't crying.... if he did, I probably would...>_>..

EDIT: Nevermind, he is...

TH3JOK3R003

06-26-2007, 03:41

what? HHH looks like he want to break down

looks like they showing the entire match for Wrestlemania XX

I merged your post. Please don't double post in the future. ~Tobian

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 03:48

that was a great match. i'm happy to see the whole thing and not just the highlights.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 03:53

Well, on another note, if anyone wants VENGEANCE 2007 VIDEOS, PM ME. [Including what match you want]

MikeAaronB

06-26-2007, 04:07

Seeing Eddie and Chris again makes me feel weak. They're both gone now. I can't believe it.

Seeing them celebrate at the end of that match is so depressing.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 04:09

Yeah that was the most poignant ending to RAW ever.

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 04:12

Agreed.... very sad ending to RAW tonight..

TH3JOK3R003

06-26-2007, 04:21

all i have to say is R.I.P. Chris Benoit

WonsAuto

06-26-2007, 04:40

L0ST

06-26-2007, 04:42

are you kidding me another wrestler dead??? man what the hell is going on, damn Chris Benoit was awesome, crippler crossface ftw, R.I.P

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 04:45

Man, I missed RAW tonight... I mean, not that I knew about this until just now anyway. Are they gonna replay it? I really wanna hear what everyone had to say about all of this.

R.I.P. Chris Benoit - one of the best ever. :cry:

Since it's a WWE program, it probably won't. Try watching ECW tomorrow.... they may do the same thing they did tonight on RAW.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 04:45

I think they replay RAW on sundays or something? I don't remember what day.

gungravezero14

06-26-2007, 04:46

investigators are saying murder/suicide....................?????????????????

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 04:49

I think they replay RAW on sundays or something? I don't remember what day.

Yes, I think it's Sunday... called A.M RAW or something like that.

MarKoNiO

06-26-2007, 04:52

OMG I just can`t believe this, I am in shock....

I am about to cry, this is really f**ed up.

RIP Chris :(

WonsAuto

06-26-2007, 04:54

Yes, I think it's Sunday... called A.M RAW or something like that.

Anyone have a time and channel?

Blu-Ray

06-26-2007, 04:56

Almost every WWE News site is screwed up because of this news...

EDIT: USA - around 2/3 in the morning.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 05:20

OMG I just can`t believe this, I am in shock....

I am about to cry, this is really f**ed up.

RIP Chris :(

Go ahead and cry man. I know I did.

Maddog911

06-26-2007, 06:54

Omfg Are You Serious? Benoit?!

Nooooooooooooo

edit: guys tell me this is some joke.....somebody. I'm nearly in tears right now god damnit. benoit wasn't able to make it to vengeance due to a family emergency at the last minute.....could this mean he was murdered?
yea i was playin basketball with my friends and i got a call from another friend sayin to tune on RAW cuz we were still playin and i ran over to his house and i see Chris Benoit (1967-2007) and im like no f'in way. This cant be

Wow, just come home and I found out about Chris. Than I see it was him and his family. Can't believe this:cry:. This has to be some crime. Its sad that the McMahon storyline about death, and than a real tragedy involving death with one of the best wrestlers of all time.
Im happy that the McMahon storyline is over but it would've been interesting to see where it wouldve gone. Like who they would have commited. There goes about a month of Vinces plans for some wrestler

I told my mom and she immediately said Murder-Suicide. :roll:
I think its either that or Carbon Monoxide. My first guess is Carbon Monoxide but who knows its in Atlanta

Poor Dean. He lost 2 of his best friends of 15 years in the past 2 years.
That WCW Match was cool. But i feel bad. When he said that they were the three amigos i got choked up

It's a shame that some people think it's fake due to recent events...... I think that was a terrible decision by the WWE.
Yea i told my dad and because of the Vince thing he said it was fake cuz the Vince eath was tanking and no one believed it. So i bet him 100 dollars and well obviously i won

Chavo's speech tore me up....
Yea well they were the best of friends. Im suprised Chavo lasted that long without crying

Yea.... with him being a heel an all, that would be the last person you would expect to cry.
Im happy Edge came out and did that. It makes him more loved by that fans even though he is a heel. I mean i liked him before but now i respect him.

what? HHH looks like he want to break down
Triple H is by far my favorite wrestler at the present time and i just love the guy for sayin all that.

The ones that made me choke up were CM Punk's, Edge's, Chavo's, and HHH's speech. You know what Stone COld said some pretty nice stuff too.

But that dam John Cena had to swear two ****in times in his "We'll miss you Chris" speech. What a ****in *******. And he didnt even say anything about Chris' character. All he said is that later tonight we'll see some of Chris's best matches and that we'll here from wrestlers that were really close to him. I am just fed up with him. If you're not going to say anything meaningful than dont go out there. GOD!!!!!!!

I will miss you Chris. One of my favorites. I always rooted for you

R.I.P.

Knuckles126

06-26-2007, 07:03

I just want to let everyone here know that updates on the continuing investigation will be posted in this thread: http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=80555

Maddog911

06-26-2007, 07:14

Omg:shock: Investigators just released that they believe the cause was a double murder suicide.
Benoit failed to appear both at Saturday’s live event in Beaumont, Tx., and WWE’s Vengeance: Night of Champions in Houston Sunday night, after informing WWE of a family emergency. Several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning prompted concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, VP of Government Relations for WWE, Inc. Hering, in turn, spoke with Fayette County sheriffs Monday, and requested that they respond to the Benoit residence to check on him and his family.

Authorities representing the Sheriff’s Department initially had a difficult time entering Benoit’s new Fayetteville home Monday afternoon, which had been guarded by two large German Shepherds roaming freely around the property. Once authorities entered the residence, they quickly located the bodies of Benoit, Nancy and Daniel. WWE was notified of the discovery at approximately 4 p.m.

WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday.
-WWE.com
This is horrible. This was another possibility in my head but i said to myself "Chris isnt that crazy to do that". I dont know what to think right now:confused:

Mist

06-26-2007, 09:00

I just read that the instruments of death were found at the house?

Ishimaru Kaito

06-26-2007, 11:44

i don't beileve that Chris could do such a thing, he had to be fraamed or something cause he wouldn't do that

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 15:35

It still makes no sense why Chris would do it. I firmly believe his wife and child were in some sort of peril and he had no choice.

Chris just would not kill his family up and out. No way.

UnReaL

06-26-2007, 18:21

It still makes no sense why Chris would do it. I firmly believe his wife and child were in some sort of peril and he had no choice.

Chris just would not kill his family up and out. No way.

Yeah, thats what I kept saying to myself when watching RAW and than finding out what the investigators said. I truly hope this is not the case, because I still have a hard time believing it. What could make a man who has been married for so many years, on the road everyday without seeing his wife and family, and still be married go and do such a thing?

I believe EDGE said it the best, "I don't understand these situations and I never will."

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 18:32

This would seem to explain some of it.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/genera...other-228.html (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/general-wwe/351338-chris-benoit-family-found-dead-06-25-thread-no-other-228.html)

Quote:
From TMZ.com

464. My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that Chirs Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm clock. The son's body was found in his room appearantly suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his other children (from a seperate relationship), and his fans. He the fasioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from the garage and hung himself from the ballaster in the foyer of his suburban Atlanta home.

UnReaL

06-26-2007, 18:41

This would seem to explain some of it.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/genera...other-228.html (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/general-wwe/351338-chris-benoit-family-found-dead-06-25-thread-no-other-228.html)

That is more believable. I could not see Benoit going nuts like that and killing his children. Now what the hell possessed the wife to do such a thing? Oh wait this is most likely the reason, "God told me to do it."

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 18:46

I have no clue what was going on between him and his wife.

UnReaL

06-26-2007, 19:24

I have no clue what was going on between him and his wife.

There could have been problems of him being away all the time, but I don't see it escalating to this point. Look how long they've been together, since WCW days. Now the bigger question is what possessed the wife to do it? That we may never know.

What Benoit did was seeing his son dead, and nothing but pure hate coming out, and turning it all on his wife. From what the wrestlers said about how great of a Father he was, IMO he probably spent the rest of his time with his son, wrote the letter and took his life. He probably took his life more for his son than his wife. Just my opinion, but a tragedy none the less.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 19:30

Well I'm going to avoid saying anymore till Fox News comes on in 30 minutes. Supposedly they have some new details.....but I hope to god the account I posted is correct as it would relieve some hate that idiots throw out wantonly.

Maddog911

06-26-2007, 19:50

They said that his wife was wearing yellow diamonds when Chris came home. And well everyone knows yellow diamonds are very rare and frickin expensive. But i still dont see Chris as a killer. But i heard that his wife had bricks on her body when they found them. Thats what i heard but i dont care im still saying R.I.P. Chris

crash323

06-26-2007, 20:15

I don't care either if Benoit is a killer or not I totally respect him as an athlete. I was recently surfing youtube.com and found Chris Benoit tribute videos already, and people left comments saying stuff like "Benoit career sucks, I hate Benoit" and other things that just totally pissed me off. They really don't know the guy and they already calling him a Killer, C'mon they basically don't watch the WWE.

dftstyles

06-26-2007, 20:18

rest in peace chris bennoitt!

you were the **** before you killed yer family! now yer a piece of ****.

she probably cheated on you thats why u did such a thing! ahaha!

PiP4LyFe

06-26-2007, 20:41

UnReaL

06-26-2007, 21:24

Chris is a killer get over it, i don't watch WWE because it's fake!

Well congrats on stating the obvious, like so many others have. So get in line with all the others.

The story is fake, the outcome on who wins is planned out, so what else is new that you have to add? The wrestling part however is not fake. These guys and girls get hurt and one wrong move can lead to career ending or life ending (ex. Owen Hart).

Well turns out that Chris is the killer, and its and unfortunate situation. We'll never know what came to this point.

I'll state EDGE's comment again because it makes the most sense.

"I don't understand these type of situations and I never will."

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 21:31

I will never stop respecting benoit as a wrestler, but I'm not even going to try to figure out what was going on in his mind....unless someone makes a startling discovery now.

I just don't know what to say really....worst few days in wrestling history.

dc writer

06-26-2007, 21:45

SO let me get this straight... Chris killed his wife because she apparently killed his Son? then killed him self afterward?

Last I heard he killed his wife first... killed his son after they both were watching the pay-per-view.. then killed himself..

I guess we have to stay tuned...

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 21:46

The second scenario seems to have been confirmed somewhat...although there are still a lot of holes.

dc writer

06-26-2007, 22:03

yea thanks, i left my comment on the other thread. Crazy stuff fa sho' homie...

Hippo

06-26-2007, 22:07

good job WWE on paying tribute to a man you bounded the arms and legs of his wife and then killed her followed by killing his 6 year old son...then cowardly hanged himself...good job WWE.

I don't care how good of an "athlete" he was (athlete is a stretch considering its fake and he took steroids to get where he was), his legacy is now completely ruined, tainted, and forever overshadowed by what he did last weekend.

More importantly, this is a serious blow to wrestling and its blind eye when dealing with steroids...The Benoit family should be in people's hearts...but as for Benoit himself, I'll bite my tongue there.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 22:09

Maddog911

06-26-2007, 22:09

Chris is a killer get over it, i don't watch WWE because it's fake!
Hey i like your avatar. Vinyard is a beast. That movie was good

Everyone knows that its fixed. But its interesting watching storylines and HOW the wrestlers will win. Also there are different types of matches. Ex. TLC, Ladder, Steel Cage, First Blood, Hardcore, Battle Royal, Tag Team

Hippo

06-26-2007, 22:24

WWE paid tribute to Benoit before allegations of murder-suicide came to surface.

You can curse benoit as a person now, but as an athlete you have no right to do that. His athleticism was phenomenal and no amount of steroids is going to allow someone to do what he could do without some natural talent.

He wasn't a body builder, he was a WRESTLER.

I wouldn't go that far, Goldberg and The Rock are all-time greats in the wrestling world but were only marginally talented football players. I wouldn't put a [fake] wrestler in the same class as a professional athlete.

RedOrb_Collector

06-26-2007, 22:32

There are different kinds of athleticism. Put a regular football player into the ring and see how long it takes him to learn all the grapples, reversals, and the physical training required to take those huge bumps without major injuries, that Benoit knew how to do.

And in fact goldberg and the rock were great as wrestlers mostly for their gimmicks and charisma although they were athletic as well, (several times you could see goldberg do a standing backflip to avoid a kick), but neither of them had the technical and high flying skill of Benoit.

c.a.p

06-27-2007, 02:57

I just saw an ad on TV for ECW. It was as if Benoit never even existed. Things are moving forward as they should. I can't believe I even felt sympathy for that monster.

Edit: Vince just said that no mention will be made of Chris Benoit from now on, and that instead this episode of ECW will be dedicated to those affected by this.

RedOrb_Collector

06-27-2007, 03:06

Where did Vince say that? I just started watching ECW. WTF Cena and Nitro?

c.a.p

06-27-2007, 03:23

Where did Vince say that? I just started watching ECW. WTF Cena and Nitro?

He said that at the beginning of ECW.

RedOrb_Collector

06-27-2007, 03:24

oh ok. Anyway Cena had to carried through another match. Another normal day in WWE history.

Knuckles126

06-27-2007, 04:17

**UPDATE**

Mr. McMahon's message on ECW:

Last night on Monday Night Raw, the WWE presented a special tribute show, recognizing the career of Chris Benoit. However, now some 26 hours later, the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent. Therefore, other than my comments, there will be no mention of Mr. Benoit tonight. On the contrary, tonight's show will be dedicated to everyone who has been affected by this terrible incident. This evening marks the first step of the healing process. Tonight, the WWE performers will do what they do better than anyone else in the world--entertain you.

Source: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chairmanbenoit

Also a WWE time line has been put together:

On Saturday, June 23, Chris Benoit was slated to appear at a WWE live event in Beaumont, Texas. That afternoon, Benoit contacted WWE to inform them that his wife and child were ill, and that he would not be able to attend the show.

WWE executives rebooked Benoit’s flight for the following morning, allowing Benoit to miss the Beaumont event making alternate arrangements for him to attend the pay-per-view event in Houston on Sunday.

WWE employees attempted to confirm with Benoit his travel plans but were unable to contact him.

Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:

Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”

Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"

Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Throughout the day on Sunday, WWE made numerous attempts to contact Benoit both at home and at local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 p.m., WWE officials were unable to establish contact with Chris Benoit.

At 12:30 p.m. on Monday, June 25, WWE officials were notified of the text messages sent to the co-workers the previous day. By 12:45 p.m., WWE had contacted Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office requesting they check on the Benoit family.

Fayetteville County Sheriffs office made contact with WWE at approximately 4:00 p.m. advising that they had entered the house of Chris Benoit and found three deceased bodies – an adult male, adult female and a male child. WWE was told that Benoit’s home was now considered a major crime scene.

The decision to cancel the live event scheduled in Corpus Christi that night was made between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. In keeping with company policy, and with limited knowledge regarding facts of the case, WWE choose to air a memorial dedicated to the career of Chris Benoit. As facts emerged surrounding the case, all tributes to Chris Benoit were removed both on-air and on WWE.com.

Source: wwe.com

Nettacki01

06-27-2007, 15:25

I honestly do not know what to say about Chris Benoit, for he has wowed me with his technical wrestling prowess, but also disappointed me by his actions as a human being over the weekend. I have my best wishes for his wife and 7 year old child, but I have yet to decide upon what to think of the man himself.

Go to any prowrestling community site right now, and you can see people already saying things like "Benoit should go to hell!" or similar messages, as well as those who share my view on him as of this time. However, we should not determine what he deserves in the afterlife. That belongs to someone else.

coolguy

06-27-2007, 16:38

I hate to say this but chris Benoit is a real moron
he did not have to kill his own son or wife.
he was a coward.if he was that mad he should have just killed her
and hung himself. and let the kid live..
and raw is makeing him out to be a hero....
what a shame..........

dc writer

06-27-2007, 18:35

Actually, they had the tribute on Raw just before wwe got the reports on the cause of deaths. Right now, they are trying to go on as if nothing happened.

UnReaL

06-27-2007, 21:00

and raw is makeing him out to be a hero....
what a shame..........

WWE only made him a hero because they said over and over again during the show that they did not know all the details. If they had known all the details there is no way that the WWE would have done what they did on RAW.

Looks like the Steroids was used on his son. The son had a disease...believe its called Fragile X. HGH was injected into the son.

Fragile X Syndrome is a defect of the X chromosome which causes mild mental retardation. The disorder occurs more frequently and severely among males than females. This condition is the leading known familial cause of mental retardation in the United States. Language delays, behavioral problems, autism or autistic-like behavior (including poor eye contact and hand-flapping), enlarged external genitalia (macroorchidism), large or prominent ears, hyperactivity, delayed motor development and/or poor sensory skills are among the wide range of symptoms associated with this disorder. -WebMD

So its still unknown if steroids, "Roid Rage", was the cause. Just still have to wait and see until the autopsy is released.

There is NO EXCUSE for Benoits actions. Everything he worked for is dead along with him and his family. He has lost all respect, which I guess he coveted from everyone he loved including the fans.

RedOrb_Collector

06-27-2007, 22:06

Can we get away from this subject now just as WWE is doing? It is still depressing....

ECW was great last night imo. CM Punk and Elijah Burke have great ring chemistry and seeing Johnny Nitro carrying Cena through another match was pretty hilarious as usual.

Knuckles126

06-27-2007, 23:03

**UPDATE**

Benoit’s son suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, speculation over whether pressure was too much.

WWE.com has uncovered information that Chris Benoit’s son Daniel suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, a genetically passed on condition that results in impairments ranging from physical and learning disabilities to more severe cognitive or intellectual disabilities.

Pam Winthrope, whose own 12-year-old son suffers from Fragile X syndrome, told NEWS 1130 in Vancouver, that she and her husband talked to Benoit about the condition five years ago.

“We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in BC and in Canada, we only have a couple of them.” she said. “My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes, and then he said he didn’t want to be a public face for Fragile X. He just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.”

Sources close to Benoit recall similar conversations with him where he described his son’s condition as “a learning disability much like autism”. These sources quote Benoit as saying “Daniel wasn’t capable of interacting with other children and was afraid of other children. Daniel also had a hard time making eye contact with everyone which was symptom of his disability”. Benoit claimed that his son was on medication for this condition.

Winthrop discussed the pressures facing parents of children diagnosed with Fragile X syndrome. During her interview with News 1130 she stated that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. Winthrop added, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy --they don't tell you." Friends of Benoit echo sentiments from him along similar lines. According to these sources “Chris stated that Nancy loved Daniel but did not want to be a stay at home mom. Nancy was also frustrated about Daniel’s learning disabilities and development. Nancy also struggled and lacked knowledge on how to discipline Daniel, when Daniel misbehaved. Chris was concerned about this and went home anytime he could from the road.”

A co-worker and long time friend of the Benoit’s speculates that perhaps the pressures of home and Daniels illness got to him, causing him to snap and take the life of his wife Nancy and son Daniel before taking his own life.

“Is it possible that after Chris killed Nancy (for whatever reason) that he felt Daniel wouldn't be able to get the care and attention he required as a special needs child (if that is indeed true) with no mother and a father either in jail or dead?” said a co-worker who knew Benoit for more than 15 years and idolized him. “Did he then decide that the only way he could protect and take care of his son was to take him to the next world and go with him? In his warped and twisted state did he think this was the only way to shield his son from a difficult life of pain and hardship? It doesn't condone or justify a damn thing but it's the best reason I can think of. I'm trying to put together some semblance of logic for his actions, but it's an impossible task trying to explain this.”

Stay with WWE.com for more on Fragile X syndrome and further updates on the Benoit case as more information becomes available.

It's gettin' pretty ugly...

Maddog911

06-28-2007, 04:47

**UPDATE**

Mr. McMahon's message on ECW:

Source: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chairmanbenoit

Also a WWE time line has been put together:

Source: wwe.com (http://wwe.com)
Yea ive seen this but this is a more dteailed timeline

Below is a detailed WWE/Chris Benoit timeline from Saturday to Monday:
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Chris Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE SmackDown (http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/)/ECW (http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/) live event in Beaumont, Texas.
3:30 p.m.
A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and overslept, and would be late to the WWE live event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, “I love you.” The co-worker stated that it was “out of context.”
3:42 p.m.
The same co-worker was concerned with Benoit’s tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating “just call me back.”
3:44 p.m.
Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didn’t answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker.
4:30 p.m.
A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30 p.m. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event.
5:35 p.m.
Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont.
6:10 p.m.
A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20 p.m. Eastern time, arriving into Houston at 9:24 p.m. Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event.
6:13 p.m.
The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up.

Sunday, June 24, 2007
Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoit’s cell phones:
Text Message 1
Sent to: Two co-workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215

Text Message 2
Sent to: Two co-workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.
Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open
Text Message 3
Sent to: Two co-workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:54 a.m.
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 4
Sent to: Two co-workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:55 a.m.
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 5
Sent to: A co-worker who consistently traveled with Benoit
From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:58 a.m.
Message: My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11 p.m. Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit.

Monday, June 25, 2007
12:30 p.m.
WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.
12:45 p.m.
WWE contacted the Fayette County Sheriff’s office and requested them to go to Benoit’s residence.
4 p.m.
WWE received a call from the Fayette County Sheriff’s office, advising that they entered
the house of Benoit and found three deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayette County Sheriff’s office has secured the house as a “major crime scene” and that the Fayette County Sheriff’s office had no further information.

But i want to drop the subject too so im going to say this. That dam Cena. Why the hell was he on ECW. What, Vince thinks that the fans missed him so much because he didnt wrestle on monday that they had to have the champ on the card for ECW. Give me a break

Knuckles126

06-28-2007, 04:55

Cena is a loser...he can't wrestle.

RedOrb_Collector

06-28-2007, 06:27

Cena can wrestle as well as Ultimate Warrior can.

lol.

c.a.p

06-28-2007, 06:31

The thing that bothers me the most about him is the STFU. He doesn't even attempt to look as though he is applying pressure to his opponent.

Nettacki01

06-28-2007, 06:42

Most if not all of the things that suck about Cena does not come from his character, it comes mostly from bad booking, aka, "Superman" booking.

RedOrb_Collector

06-28-2007, 06:44

Well what can he do? The STFU doesn't even really hurt I believe.

I believe its actually a simple resthold and nothing more.

edit: It comes from bad mat skills coupled with bad booking.

Maddog911

06-28-2007, 08:30

The thing that hurts the most about the STF is the weight of the person on top of you. Thats it and im not calling it the STFU, it is the STF and nothing more. Same with the FU. All it is, is a fireman's carry. Nothing more, nothing less.

I backyard wrestle with my friends and we have a whole federationa and all that on youtube and i know what submissions hurt and dont and the STF definatly does not hurt

MikeAaronB

06-29-2007, 05:37

**Update***

Benoit taking out a poor defenseless kitten.

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3612/catcrossfacesc2.jpg

RedOrb_Collector

06-29-2007, 05:41

That was great! I loved it.

/sarcasm

MikeAaronB

06-29-2007, 05:46

I knew you weren't going to like it. =P

RedOrb_Collector

06-29-2007, 15:42

http://news.aol.com/sports/story/_a/wrestler-benoit-family-dead/20070626091709990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Officials Probe Wrestler's Wikipedia Entry
Mentioned Wife's Death Hours Before Authorities Found Body

By HARRY R. WEBER,
AP
Posted: 2007-06-29 09:24:38
Filed Under: Crime News (http://news.aol.com/crime), Nation (http://news.aol.com/nation), Sports News (http://news.aol.com/sports)
ATLANTA (June 28) - Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit 's Wikipedia entry to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit 's home in suburban Atlanta, and it's not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.
Benoit strangled his wife and son during the weekend, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home, authorities said. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.Also Thursday, federal drug agents said they had raided the west Georgia office of a doctor who prescribed testosterone to Benoit .The raid at Dr. Phil Astin's office in Carrollton began Wednesday night and concluded early Thursday, said agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration. No arrests were made.Hours before the raid, Astin told The Associated Press he had treated Benoit for low testosterone levels, which he said likely originated from previous steroid use.Among other things, investigators were looking for Benoit 's medical records to see whether he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit , a longtime friend, in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office Friday.
State medical records show that Astin's privileges were suspended for three months in 2001 at a Georgia hospital for "reasons related to competence or character."Astin did not return calls to his cell phone from the AP on Thursday.Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit 's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said in a statement Thursday that he could not immediately comment on the raid.Benoit 's page on Wikipedia, a reference site that allows users to add and edit information, was updated at 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found. The reason he missed a match Saturday night was "stemming from the death of his wife Nancy," it said.
Reporters informed the Fayette County district attorney's office of the posting Thursday, and the agency forwarded the information to sheriff's investigators, who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to the AP.WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said that to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit 's cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.
WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, McDevitt said, though he did not know whether Chris Benoit had one."I have no idea who posted this," McDevitt said. "It's at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we're unaware of. We don't know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities."On Thursday afternoon, the Wikipedia page about Benoit carried a note stating that editing by unregistered or newly registered users was disabled until July 8 because of vandalism.
In other developments Thursday, Ballard told the AP that 10 empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home. An empty wine bottle was found a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself, Ballard said.
It could take several weeks for toxicology tests to be completed on Benoit to see what substances, if any, were in his system.Benoit took four months off from work in 2006 for undisclosed personal reasons, McDevitt said.
"He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing," McDevitt said.In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally retarded 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.The child had a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.Chris Benoit 's father, Michael Benoit , declined to comment on the slayings when reached Thursday by telephone in Alberta, Canada. Funeral arrangements were incomplete.

Hmmm....I'm not going to comment.