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mufc_danny
11-10-2007, 16:52
I have not tried playing online yet cause i have heard its awful.
Has anyone been playing online recently and is it playable online?
Whoa, play.com are selling PES 2008 for 24.99£ on the 360!
http://nextgenpes.co.uk
****, what do you think the reason is behind this?
Pretty surprising they've kept the PS3 version at the same price, despite having more issues.
I posted this in a thread yesterday! You may be interested!
If I wasnt so pissed off with the game Id kinda find this response funny!
http://www.ps3forums.com/images/icons/icon8.gif Konami's Response About PES 2008 - To Me! - 21 Hours Ago
Although my specific issue isnt the same as what most of you get, (fuzziness around the players) I still get the lag and Slowdown!
Look at these emails -
Quote:
I have just got this game (PES 200:cool:) and it plays terribly on my Panasonic LXD70 LCD.
There is 'fuzziness' around the players, serious tearing issues, and
terrible frame rate issues!
I have also tried it on my Panasonic 42" Plasma and my 26" LXD60 LCD
and it
plays fine on those TV's.
Will there be any patch released to offer support for more
televisions.
I have seen other people are having problems with different
Televisions.
Thanks
Quote:
> Dear customer,
>
> Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.
>
> You reported us an error which is known to our development team. The
> team is
> trying to resolve this problem as soon as possible.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience this issue might have caused.
>
>
> Your Konami Support Team
Quote:
> Is this with regards to my specific issue? The Panasonic LXD70? Or was this an automated
> response?
>
> Thanks very much,
Quote:
Dear customer,
Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.
We have discovered an issue with PES 2008 on PLAYSTATION 3 which interferes
with the smooth running of the gameplay. Our team is currently investigating
the issue and hopes to provide a solution as soon as possible.
It appears that only the SD (Standard Definition) modes 576i and 576p are
affected.
^WTF Did you even read my email^ :suspect:
Should your television support HD (High Definition) resolutions,
please try connecting your PLAYSTATION 3 to your HD TV using a component or
HDMI cable and switch to a HD resolution in order to resolve this issue.
We sincerely apologise for this inconvenience. ???????
^ Inconvenience? If I only had a SD TV and had to go buy an HDTV to play this **** game Id see it as more than an inconvenience! :suspect:
Your Konami Support Team
So basically, they didn't even read my emails and what they said makes no sense!
Proof that Konami are a bunch of Muppets! :mrgreen:
Whoa, play.com are selling PES 2008 for 24.99£ on the 360!
http://nextgenpes.co.uk
****, what do you think the reason is behind this?
Pretty surprising they've kept the PS3 version at the same price, despite having more issues.
I guess 360 owners have been holding on to PES6 instead of buying PES2008 since there are problems with the new version. Thats why the 360 version is on sale. The PS3 version on the other hand has been selling like hot cakes because its the first PES on the console so PS3 owners have nothing else to fall back on, hence PS3 owners are buying PES2008 at all costs. That means there is no need to reduce the price to get more demand on the PS3 version.
I think the firmware update has improved framerates for PES, i dont have one single slowdown since i updated and replays are smooth!
Anyone else?
Is the framerate still bad in crowded areas of the pitch? (like corner kicks)
I was wondering because I don't have this game yet.
zenkaipower
11-10-2007, 20:26
Ok been playing Fifa for 5 weeks and Pro Evo 2008 for about a week and a half....
Conclusions i have...
Pro Evo is defo the arcade style title now, Very easy to score, especially as the goal keepers jump out the way and palm the ball out to attackers, but being easy to score will attract all the Fifa heads that now find it impossible to score in Fifa so i do think it has gained alot more fans. The graphics are below par.... sound is awful (especially if you compare to fifa) Ball feels like it's on ice at times and the ball moves far too fast... but as i say at the start it is an arcade style football game so i guess all my problems with the game were actually meant.
Fifa is defo the realistic game this time round, Hard to score, Slowish gameplay (although can get fast at time) Keepers are great, Graphics are great as is the sound and presentation. One bit i can say about sound.... i was getting beat by the computer 1-0 and 72 mins had passed... finally scored and the crowd started singing "your not singing any more" i thought that was brilliant.
Belive me when i say this..... but i cannot belive that Fifa is the better game...i never thought ever that i would say this. If you can unlearn Pro Evo and move over to Fifa this year you's will see what i mean.
I just hope Konami leave all this Arcade bull**** behind and get back to the way things were. As i do belive Seabass can make a better realistic game than the guys at EA....
I guess next year we'l find out.
Who are you? :suspect: And what do you want?
Conclusions that I have are FIFA is junk, and PES is PES. Comprende amigo?
PES has best ball physics, fact. PES was always easy to score, fact. There are no real football simulations and never will be, fact. Get over it, chill out, peace out.
Just played for a few hours on FIFA08. The scoring is bloody rediculous. It is impossible to make a break. I was Man U against my mate who was Derby (yes, Derby). Ronaldo running at the defense and he can't break through? Derby defence can keep up with Ronaldo, one of the fastest footy players? The passing is dumb as the players don't move to the ball when you pass it, so long passes just get intercepted all the time. From what everyone was saying, I thought it had been improved from FIFA07.
At the same time i upgraded my LCD to a full HD and installed the new 2.0 firmware.
I still have slowdowns but the replays are much much better, i dont know if its from the LCD or the firmware.
hey Nunalho lets go online for an FCP - Mouros :)
Quaresma the art of trivela
Sure, but SLB lacks some players for me this year, and online i cant use C. Rodriguez...
I can play with you as soon as online runs better, or we can try one match only.
UkHardcore
11-10-2007, 21:25
Just played for a few hours on FIFA08. The scoring is bloody rediculous. It is impossible to make a break. I was Man U against my mate who was Derby (yes, Derby). Ronaldo running at the defense and he can't break through? Derby defence can keep up with Ronaldo, one of the fastest footy players? The passing is dumb as the players don't move to the ball when you pass it, so long passes just get intercepted all the time. From what everyone was saying, I thought it had been improved from FIFA07.
If i remember right you find it hard to score in Pro Evo.. so Fifa will as you say be impossible for you.... Ronaldo is a speed demon in the game and defences defo cannot keep up with him (i know am in my 3rd season with Man u and played over 150 games online). As for passing it's great... And it's very hard for other players to get the ball back... Sure thru pass doesnt work as well as Pro but imo Pro's thru pass works too well. Long ball's and early crosses are superb as well.
I guess your just crap at it... especially if your finding it impossible to score or for some reason you cannot run away from defences with Ronaldo.... Back to the piss easy Pro Evo for you. :DD
Who are you? :suspect: And what do you want?
Conclusions that I have are FIFA is junk, and PES is PES. Comprende amigo?
PES has best ball physics, fact. PES was always easy to score, fact. There are no real football simulations and never will be, fact. Get over it, chill out, peace out.
Dado Prso no.1
Am suprised the people of eastern europe speak Mexican
I guess your just crap at it... especially if your finding it impossible to score or for some reason you cannot run away from defences with Ronaldo.... Back to the piss easy Pro Evo for you. :DDFIFA plays really bad. The passing is dreadful and unless you were playing a totally different game to me, you're speaking out of your ass...
zenkaipower
11-10-2007, 21:35
Dado Prso no.1
Am suprised the people of eastern europe speak Mexican
I forgive you few last posts when you mentioned Pršo(the correct name):)
You mean Spanish:suspect: I dont even know if I spelled it right lol
We Croats or Ester Europeans if you wish are very versatile people:mrgreen:
UkHardcore
11-10-2007, 21:41
Haha... Such a great player!! Shame about his injuries :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDyUHM1IKIs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPHf7NaaNJk
zenkaipower
11-10-2007, 21:49
Haha... Such a great player!! Shame about his injuries :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDyUHM1IKIs
lol that is funny:) He speaks like Scottish and sings too! haha It seams you really liked him over there? No surprise, we Croatians are famous for great relationship with the local people around the world.
yeah injuries are a ****!
clean515
11-10-2007, 22:52
Just played for a few hours on FIFA08. The scoring is bloody rediculous. It is impossible to make a break. I was Man U against my mate who was Derby (yes, Derby). Ronaldo running at the defense and he can't break through? Derby defence can keep up with Ronaldo, one of the fastest footy players? The passing is dumb as the players don't move to the ball when you pass it, so long passes just get intercepted all the time. From what everyone was saying, I thought it had been improved from FIFA07.
This is how PES used to be, you cant just run into the damm defense and "break through" you have to play around, find the weak spots and attack... Good old pes 5 days.
In PES it is far to easy to score, with ronaldhino you can score atleast 5 goals each match online... Now that is bloody stupid.
Just played for a few hours on FIFA08. The scoring is bloody rediculous. It is impossible to make a break. I was Man U against my mate who was Derby (yes, Derby). Ronaldo running at the defense and he can't break through? Derby defence can keep up with Ronaldo, one of the fastest footy players? The passing is dumb as the players don't move to the ball when you pass it, so long passes just get intercepted all the time. From what everyone was saying, I thought it had been improved from FIFA07.
Exactly. It'd be quicker to just run to your player rather than pass it to him.
clean515
11-10-2007, 22:56
This pretty much describes how the game has moved.
"Winning Eleven 7 for me (PES 3 for you guys in Europe) was my favorite of the series because Konami was able to balance the speed of players, the speed of the game and the physics of the ball. I never felt the CPU AI cheated, they just took advantage and capitalized on my miscues. If I was playing Real Madrid or Manchester United in the Master’s League in my first and/or second season they would out possess me like 60% to 40%…something that felt totally real and lifelike. I had to counterattack and make the best of the possessions I had.
Today, I can possess the ball more with Wigan up against the likes of Chelsea or Man U, and that just doesn’t seem real. I remember those heart pounding 0-0 draws and those exhilarating 3-2 victories. I never wanted to leave my house. I would come home from school and play for hours. Konami, for me, has lost the emotion of the game. There are so many fluke goals on PES 2008. So many goals I felt just were pure luck and I didn’t earn them. The best part of Winning Eleven was earning every goal which made playing that much more enjoyable.."
Pes has always been about skill and learning to play the game, now it is just stupid mainstream game like fifa.
I plated the demo ... wasn't up to par ... i think this will be a rent for moi
joonbug09
11-11-2007, 05:33
Hey, got the game here in Canada, shipped from shopto.net
Sure I have a problem with framerates in crowded areas and replays... but you know what? After playing the hell out of it for the past week, these things don't really matter anymore.
When I'm having a joy controlling the players in PES, I don't really care what the replays look like anyways.
AS for slowdowns... well every PES I had since Winning Eleven 6 all had slowdowns in crowded areas, so i'm used to it.
I can tell you guys still on the fence about this that its still the same PES that I've grown to love with over the years with better graphics and animations.
I also love the new moves too.
On another note,
And I may be the only one here... but I absolutely love the music in the game...
... who needs licensed songs when you got
"run for the goal" ---- best song ever imo.
Add me if you are in North America and are looking for some online PES action!
Copyright
11-11-2007, 14:27
Today i have thought of the options and once again changed my Christmas from pes to fifa. Mainly because it has more modes, official licensing, and i have all the other Fifa's.Also considering it doesn't stumble on the ps3 , unlike pes at times, i have changed my mind. But is it right?
Today i have thought of the options and once again changed my Christmas from pes to fifa. Mainly because it has more modes, official licensing, and i have all the other Fifa's.Also considering it doesn't stumble on the ps3 , unlike pes at times, i have changed my mind. But is it right?
PES has by far the better gameplay, but if you can't live with occasional slowdowns FIFA will be for you.
PES08 was a serious dissapointment for me.
I'd bought every pro evo game on at least the week of release right from ProEvo2.
They'd always easily been of a far higher quality than FIFA, especially in terms of gameplay.
and in the latest few they'd even been catching up with the licences and graphics of individuals faces.
but with the jump to next gen (or now current gen?) I'm seriously irritated at konami.
The gameplay is just extremely below par, particularly keepers.
and the licence gains we've seen in the last few.
Gone!
I bought Pro Evo this year again, but this time i'm sorely tempted to return it and get Fifa.
Bring back Pro Evolution 3!
mufc_danny
11-11-2007, 16:54
Has anyone recently tried to play online?
I have not tried it yet as i have heard its rubbish!
Has anyone tried it?
Has anyone recently tried to play online?
I have not tried it yet as i have heard its rubbish!
Has anyone tried it?
Yes! Completely unplayable! Impossible to know where the ball is going therefore impossible to play!
had something strange happen today with penalties.
Luckily it was in my favour however this happened against you I think many players would be going balistic.
I shot low left to the keeper and the he guessed right with bottom left. However the ball still squeamed in.
I thought it had gone under his body. How wrong I was the ball actually went through his chest:shock:. I thinking what the heck:confused: was this the replay falsely portraying the action or did the ball go through the chest.
This first time I have seen the sprite detection issues rare its ugly head and caused a goal if this was how the ball went in.
Wondering if Konami did any testing for this game. Unless this a rare glitch I have hit on.
I think many gamers have accepted the slowdowns the tears on ocasions. The goallies acting strangely at times. But if this issue gets mor frequent the ball could ghost through the chest of goallie then there will be lot of angry customers more so on the current slowdowns.
UkHardcore
11-11-2007, 18:59
Thiers been vids of ball's going right through players heads and chests as well
Hey, got the game here in Canada, shipped from shopto.net
Sure I have a problem with framerates in crowded areas and replays... but you know what? After playing the hell out of it for the past week, these things don't really matter anymore.
When I'm having a joy controlling the players in PES, I don't really care what the replays look like anyways.
AS for slowdowns... well every PES I had since Winning Eleven 6 all had slowdowns in crowded areas, so i'm used to it.
I can tell you guys still on the fence about this that its still the same PES that I've grown to love with over the years with better graphics and animations.
I also love the new moves too.
On another note,
And I may be the only one here... but I absolutely love the music in the game...
... who needs licensed songs when you got
"run for the goal" ---- best song ever imo.
Add me if you are in North America and are looking for some online PES action!
I live in Montreal so I will add you as soon as I get my copy (hopefully they will have an online fix by then). How long did it take you to get yours delivered from shopto?
Has anyone recently tried to play online?
I have not tried it yet as i have heard its rubbish!
Has anyone tried it?
Do your self a favour and wait for the anticipated "patch" Konami promised.
(Where the hell is it by the way..:evil:)
Online still sucks a lot. You name it, they got it. From glitches, like the ball is going through players, till time travelling players that skip meters through your defence and rarely picture freezing.
I am afraid the slowdowns on the replays are the least they should be worried with.
Offline gaming though is absolutely enjoyable and I don't bother a lot with the slowdowns on replays. Not that I wouldn't mind them fixing it of course..
thebusiness86
11-11-2007, 21:39
clean515... "There are so many fluke goals on PES 2008. So many goals I felt just were pure luck and I didn’t earn them. " .... sounds more realistic to me, watch MOTD tonight. Its something tha happens constantly in football mate
UkHardcore
11-11-2007, 22:01
clean515... "There are so many fluke goals on PES 2008. So many goals I felt just were pure luck and I didn’t earn them. " .... sounds more realistic to me, watch MOTD tonight. Its something tha happens constantly in football mate
Am just about to watch it, Will the ball go through players bodys, heads, will keepers jump out of the way of the ball, will the keeper palm it out to an attacker every hard shot?
Luck does not happen 95% of the time, 95% of the time you have to work/earn your goal.
I live in Montreal so I will add you as soon as I get my copy (hopefully they will have an online fix by then). How long did it take you to get yours delivered from shopto?
i orderd from shopto also. i live in california, it took 1 week. should be less for you since montreal is on the eastern part of north america.
designit123
11-12-2007, 02:40
Finally got my copy.
I have Uni exams until next week but any Aussies add me for a game
joonbug09
11-12-2007, 06:41
I live in Montreal so I will add you as soon as I get my copy (hopefully they will have an online fix by then). How long did it take you to get yours delivered from shopto?
Hey mine took about one week to get here.
I want to try online with someone from Canada and see how it is.
kerisabe
11-12-2007, 06:56
Hey, got the game here in Canada, shipped from shopto.net
Sure I have a problem with framerates in crowded areas and replays... but you know what? After playing the hell out of it for the past week, these things don't really matter anymore.
When I'm having a joy controlling the players in PES, I don't really care what the replays look like anyways.
AS for slowdowns... well every PES I had since Winning Eleven 6 all had slowdowns in crowded areas, so i'm used to it.
I can tell you guys still on the fence about this that its still the same PES that I've grown to love with over the years with better graphics and animations.
I also love the new moves too.
On another note,
And I may be the only one here... but I absolutely love the music in the game...
... who needs licensed songs when you got
"run for the goal" ---- best song ever imo.
Add me if you are in North America and are looking for some online PES action!
U can play PAL PS3 games in the north american PS3? Really? I thougth canadian TV uses NTSC system and Euro use PAL? Im still waiting for the Japanese release of the game.. put a pre-order.. can't wait!!
Laurenceh78
11-12-2007, 09:47
well, i finally played online which was fun but at times totally unplayable. In my first ranked game the opposition players were running around like they were on speed! The ball was never where i thought it would be due to the jumping i.e. you think you've won the ball with your defender and then suddenly the ball and opposition attacker has the ball 10 metres away running towards goal!! I had to disconnect my first ranked agme which meant i lost points! Konami and Sony sort it out!!!
Oh, and out of about 10 online matches i played 9 were against Barcelona! Only one person had the originality to choose another side - Fiorentina...well done to that Italian!! Thank you!
ok, rant finished!
can i play the european version in a us ps3 with a sdtv ???
U can play PAL PS3 games in the north american PS3? Really? I thougth canadian TV uses NTSC system and Euro use PAL? Im still waiting for the Japanese release of the game.. put a pre-order.. can't wait!!
Where did you pre-order your JAP version of the game?
I preferred the performance of the winning eleven demo more than that of PES 2008 demo.
Good news mates:
http://nextgenpes.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/konami-talk-about-pes-online/
kerisabe
11-12-2007, 18:35
Where did you pre-order your JAP version of the game?
I preferred the performance of the winning eleven demo more than that of PES 2008 demo.
put a pre-order at Play-asia.com
Well Ive had enough and Im selling it!
Yes a patch is coming out but I just dont see it stopping the offline problems I have of screen tearing, slowdowns and so on!
lso the gameplay is just to fast for me, I just cant enjoy it when the players run at 100mph and the ball goes twice as fast as that!
I played the Fifa demo last night and actually enjoyed it far more than I have PES 2008!
Sure the gameplay is less responsive but the Graphics are miles better, the colours nicer, more authentic, better commentary better tricks and more visually realistic!
I know games are all about gameplay but the PES gameplay this year just isnt that good
I cant believe Im selling a PES game for the first time ever, if a miraculous patch comes out then I can always buy it again! But I just dont see it!
Shame on you Konami! :cry:
And no one come out and say that I obviously prefer licenses to gameplay as I have done that to oeple for years and the fact is that this year gameplay sucks!
Goalkeepers have destroyed the game for me! :cry:
lso the gameplay is just to fast for me, I just cant enjoy it when the players run at 100mph and the ball goes twice as fast as that!
All I can say is watch real football:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9L2DGu3rdI
I agree, the ball is too fast but the player speed is spot on. It's sad that you're disappointed, maybe FIFA is for you this year.
All I can say is watch real football:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9L2DGu3rdI
I agree, the ball is too fast but the player speed is spot on. It's sad that you're disappointed, maybe FIFA is for you this year.
Cheers mate.
You know if I was you guys any other year and I had read my post I would have slammed me! Because I always said Fifa was an arcade game and PES was for football fans!
But this year has just been a disaster for PES IMO!
But Im glad you like it mate, I used to love it as much as you, in fact since ISS 98 which is a long time ago! :mrgreen:
Ill probably pick it up for the PC and patch it! :mrgreen:
After announcing they would have a patch ready for 360 and possibly PS3 users by November the 19th, completely eradicating Online lag, (also possibly offline slowdown on the PS3), Konami have refused to reply when asked for more information on the patch.
Konami has issued a “no comment” to rumours it has set a November 19 deadline for a PES 2008 patch.
Internet rumours surfaced today suggesting that the Japanese publisher was expecting to make a patch that would resolve the online lag issues available in just a week.
Comments purporting to come from a Konami spokesperson, reported by pesforum.co.uk, said: “We hope to have the patch released within two weeks at the latest, and have set a deadline of Monday 19th November to get this to the public, as we are aware there are a lot of gamers out there that are avoiding a massive part of the game because of the online issues.”
The quotes continue: “I would say to all PES fans to be patient with us while we rectify the problems, please be assured that we are working very hard to fix these problems. We hope that everyone will soon be enjoying the online aspect of the game which people will love playing with their friends and fellow gamers.”
However, when Pro-G contacted Konami for clarification the publisher told us that no official announcement on a PES 2008 patch had been made.
Many gamers have expressed their frustration at the crippling lag experienced when playing console versions of the game. Last month we gave Konami’s UK office a call posing as a customer to ask what the publisher would be doing to combat the problems. We were told that a patch was being worked on that would not only attempt to improve offline play but also online play.
A patch for the PC version of the game has already been released, and last week Konami issued advice on how to smooth out play in the PS3 game.
http://nextgenpes.co.uk/?p=49
What the hell?
UkHardcore
11-12-2007, 20:21
Well Ive had enough and Im selling it!
Yes a patch is coming out but I just dont see it stopping the offline problems I have of screen tearing, slowdowns and so on!
lso the gameplay is just to fast for me, I just cant enjoy it when the players run at 100mph and the ball goes twice as fast as that!
I played the Fifa demo last night and actually enjoyed it far more than I have PES 2008!
Sure the gameplay is less responsive but the Graphics are miles better, the colours nicer, more authentic, better commentary better tricks and more visually realistic!
I know games are all about gameplay but the PES gameplay this year just isnt that good
I cant believe Im selling a PES game for the first time ever, if a miraculous patch comes out then I can always buy it again! But I just dont see it!
Shame on you Konami! :cry:
And no one come out and say that I obviously prefer licenses to gameplay as I have done that to oeple for years and the fact is that this year gameplay sucks!
Goalkeepers have destroyed the game for me! :cry:
Good news for ya mate, Fifa got patched is is ALOT more responsive (well 360 version) :-D It has been slightly speeded up also... but still got the slow realistic pace of real football.
Out of 7 of us who bought PES 2008 (friends) this year only 2 are still playing 5 have moved to the darkside haha.
Lol at the vid from Sephyr, do you really think all goals are that speed?
Check out my 1-0 Man u V Everton goal for a fast goal in Fifa ;)
http://www.easportsworld.com/index_enGB.html#video-167030/EA%20SPORTS%20World/48948
http://nextgenpes.co.uk/?p=49
What the hell?
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Cheers mate! I know feel justified in my decision lol Konami officially dont give a **** about their customers!
I learned that from the email I received from them telling me I needed an HDTV to play it, even though I had told them in the email I did have!
Here it is, no turning back now!
PES 2008 For Sale! :cry: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220171549608&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012)
edit - if this is seen as advertising then feel free to remove the link mods! :mrgreen:
Too bad Dude13, now i wont be able to kick your ass online=p
Too bad Dude13, now i wont be able to kick your ass online=p
I just saved you a huge amount of losses mate! :mrgreen: Be Pleased :-D
PES 2008 For Sale! :cry: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220171549608&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012)
edit - hehehe Ive never seen my visit counter rise so quickly just minutes after putting an item up for sale before! lmao
I just saved you a huge amount of losses mate! :mrgreen: Be Pleased :-D
PES 2008 For Sale! :cry: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220171549608&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012)
edit - hehehe Ive never seen my visit counter rise so quickly just minutes after putting an item up for sale before! lmao
Right, you are just chickening out :-D
Right, you are just chickening out :-D
lmao We all know that's the truth mate! ;)
PES 2008 For Sale! :cry: (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220171549608&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012)
anybody else having this problem...
i go to register for the online, but i can only get as far as where it says the terms and conditions and i go to press i agree and it wnt let me, it lets me click but nothing happens it wont go to the next oage etc.
ive tried to do this a few times now and its not working. anybody got any idea what i might be doing wrong ?
JarOfFlies
11-12-2007, 20:59
Unless PES gets patched in a week (like they supposedly said) I'm bringing it back. 2+ weeks with online still rubbish isn't good enough.
clean515
11-12-2007, 22:39
The patch is done 19th november so expect it to come out the 20th nov... If it doesnt fix all the slowdowns i will return it too, i can live with the ps3 owners only got half of the ps2 features, a cut down online mode, a edit mode that really cant edit anything but the few remaining things has to work !
Unless PES gets patched in a week (like they supposedly said) I'm bringing it back. 2+ weeks with online still rubbish isn't good enough.
starting to worry that not all issues will be fixed. Hope they prove me wrong but what comes out there mouth is not exactly encouraging:cry:.
Played in heavy rain swept stadium not sure which and there lag all over the shop it was abysma litery not playable at alll:twisted:. If you not experienced it is unbelievable. I was just getting used to the issues and learning how to play to at leat get some game enjoyment then that happened. I was playing a league season Spanish and not sure it was down to the length I played the game. Some are reporting issues get worse the more you play. I think it was down to the lag due to heavy rain. I am sure the game was doing pitch deteration else it was tricking my eyes as would see lots of dark shadowing puddles. Which if this what was actually happening then it would be logical why the slow downs everywhere. Also if they do sort it how brilliant the game going to be once its sorted.
On another note What all the crowd were looking like I thought I was in a communist convention than footy match;).
From distance its like all brown coats.
I dont care for online I cant be the only gamer who buys it for ofline use.
Laurenceh78
11-13-2007, 08:59
well my 3rd ranked game last night and it crashed for the 2nd time. 5-2 up (against Barce...again!!!!) 77min gone and as i'm reeling away from scoring my 5th goal...the game b*tch slaps round the face and crashes. I turn the game off in disgust? Will i get my win? I think i'll be taking this back to game for a refund. I can't wait for a spotty nosed teenager to say they don't do refunds...oh really, you mean on games not fit for use? Hmm, i think you do and you will according to trading standards dip-sh*t!
Phew...and breathe...
I'm thinking of trading in/returning the game if the patch doesn't improve things vastly but I'm a bit worried that the shops won't take it back because I've already used the registration code to go online. Any thoughts?
I suggest everyone return it and complain so that KONAMI will never do this to us again!
They have such a small team working on one of the most popular games in the world...they must be making so much profit this way.
I will see. I am waiting for the patch... but as to my knowledge, here in Slovakia, nobody will refund my game... :(
I know this is not the right question here, but is Fifa 08 better?
I had on friend whit whom I played PES and he said that fifa looks a lot better... Is that true? and is the gameplay better?
I had bought PES2008 cuz I have been heareng only good things about it (until now I played only Fifa on the PC - but I bought a PS2 after that) and now this... well, will see
thanks
Little_Donkey
11-13-2007, 16:38
I will see. I am waiting for the patch... but as to my knowledge, here in Slovakia, nobody will refund my game... :(
I know this is not the right question here, but is Fifa 08 better?
I had on friend whit whom I played PES and he said that fifa looks a lot better... Is that true? and is the gameplay better?
I had bought PES2008 cuz I have been heareng only good things about it (until now I played only Fifa on the PC - but I bought a PS2 after that) and now this... well, will see
thanks
YES, Fifa08 is on everything better then pes08.(better graphics, gameplay, animation, ambience, music, teams, online, everything)
Be careful though, the pc version is not the same as the console version.
Console version(x360 and ps3) is Next gen while pc version looks still same as fifa07
UkHardcore
11-13-2007, 16:58
I will see. I am waiting for the patch... but as to my knowledge, here in Slovakia, nobody will refund my game... :(
I know this is not the right question here, but is Fifa 08 better?
I had on friend whit whom I played PES and he said that fifa looks a lot better... Is that true? and is the gameplay better?
I had bought PES2008 cuz I have been heareng only good things about it (until now I played only Fifa on the PC - but I bought a PS2 after that) and now this... well, will see
thanks
Fifa for the first time ever..... is BETTER, as the poster says above though... stay away from PS2 and PC versions... 360 & PS3 only.
clean515
11-13-2007, 17:35
Yeah i tried the pc version of fifa and i was like WTF ?! Why did they release the old gen game for pc ? lazy *******s. :p
Anyway i dont like the new fifa really at all but it is atleast as good as the new pes.
oh well, and I already bought PES2008 and official training guide for that game... well... will see, I might buy the new fifa also...
been playing the game abit found when I played clubs like Real Madrid I got worse slowdowns than other clubs wondered why is this.
Is the game thinking more or is there something wrong with the kits.
been playing the game abit found when I played clubs like Real Madrid I got worse slowdowns than other clubs wondered why is this.
Is the game thinking more or is there something wrong with the kits.
Its either because more players in Real Madrid have the official faces/boots or because the stadium graphics are more complex.
Its either because more players in Real Madrid have the official faces/boots or because the stadium graphics are more complex.
Probably this is the reason good call. Konami really done some damage wondering if the actual problem is even repairable with a patch.
As we know this is a pc port feeling they might have programmed without the game using SPE's. If this is the way the game got programmed we maybe seeing that this maybe whats causing the slowdowns and therefore impossible to rectify as they would have to totally rework the coding. That would be disaster if my feelings came true.
Surely this was programmed correctly and my thoughts are wrong. Even ports from other games and developers including EA are not as bad PES2008.
kusiobache
11-14-2007, 02:20
wait are people complaing about the ps3 version of it or ps2?
and is there a definite us release date?
and btw is it hard to learn the cool moves like nutmeg, snake(if its in there) maradonna and those moves?
Laurenceh78
11-14-2007, 08:59
They should refund your money for the game. You should check your local trading standards out online. Have a read, i think you may be pleasantly surprised. Basically, if goods don't meet the standard they are supposed to, i.e. not fit for purpose, you are well within your rights to return them to the place of purchase and expect a refund. If they say you have to deal with Konomi this isn't true either. Your contract is with them, the shops contract is with Konami or whoever their supplier is, therefore you deal with the shop and not Konami.
At least that is how it is here in the UK.
I can gaurentee the shop, whoever it may be will try to say they can't give you a refund but once you show them or tell them the relevent trading standards they'll soon change their mind. If they don't, ask for the manager's name, the shops address, his direct managers name and head office address and tell them to expect somethign for trdaring standards soon.
You've got to fight for your right to your money back!!!
adamevex
11-14-2007, 13:57
Screw it. i just went back to playing PES6 on PS2. It's a good enough game to tide me over till PES2009. konami is not getting my money this year.
To me it doesn't make sense that an older game PES6 is better than PES2008. KONAMI was given more power at their finger tips (PS3) and they made their product worse than before. Technology is supposed to move forward, not backwards. I was confident they would surprise us with 1080p @ 60fps with next gen graphics; boy was I off.
The only element PES ever had better than FIFA is gameplay; but framerate is an important part of gameplay, so IMO, this year FIFA wins on all fronts.
I agree with mertle that it seems as though the PS3's SPE's weren't used because it feels like this game is running on an old PC.
JarOfFlies
11-14-2007, 16:44
It's pretty sad that the ps2 has been the definitive version for 2 years running.
The next-gen versions pale in comparison.
clean515
11-14-2007, 17:16
I returned my copy today before going to school - i got a full refund saying it was unplayable.
sammy20v
11-14-2007, 17:20
yeah makes me laugh that they cant get a game like pes to run well, compare it to cod4 or uncharted and you got to wonder if these people know how to code at all, I mean its 22 men a ball and a pitch .....
clean515
11-14-2007, 17:37
22 men and a ball yes and if that wasnt enough the AI is cheating.
davylove21
11-15-2007, 03:01
Hey people
I've been seeing some converter pages around offering to convert FM 08 stats into PES 08 stats. Anyone know where I can do this myself? That would be a big help, anyone find that PES consistently underrates Arsenal? I'm not a gunner myself but there isn't a better team as far as teamwork goes.
As far as how PES plays etc...
It's definately an improvement but I don't think it's a fully next gen game at all. I just want to sit down and play 5 games with the makers, I think in that time I could point out all the faults.
But it is fun.
Anyway, converter download or anything like that please?
I'd appreciate any help
ps3fan83
11-15-2007, 11:48
Time for the annual judgment: Is Pro Evolution still the best soccer game out there? Or did FIFA 2008 finally make the cut?
http://www.pollsb.com/polls/poll/3791/2008-versions-pes-or-fifa
Well I finally played this, framerate is a bitch during replays, but it doesn't effect the gameplay. But the gameplay is way too fast in my opinion. You switch the ball accross the pitch and it zooms over a million miles an hour. Also I don't like the default camera angle, I was at my mates and I didn't bother asking him to change. The overall presentation is better then Fifa though, in terms of the match, it looks like real TV coverage.
The gameplay is good but I'm not sure about this one, it doesn't stand out to Fifa as much as the old ones did.
nightmare playing master leage 6 games to go and now it's frozen. can play other games just not master league. Reckon the patch wil fix?
nightmare playing master leage 6 games to go and now it's frozen. can play other games just not master league. Reckon the patch wil fix?Sounds more like your disc is screwed. A single freeze is normal, but if it keeps freezing, chances are it's your PS3.
Were you making any downloads at the same time? Sometimes that causes the game to freeze.
I am starting to lose my patience.. if they do not fix the online lag by Nov 19th, I guess I have to sell my copy of PES and wait til they fix it to pick it up ... maybe WE2008 instead ....
COD4 is occupying all my time currently anyways.. but i really want to play PES ONLINE .. KONAMI !!!
JarOfFlies
11-16-2007, 23:24
I am starting to lose my patience.. if they do not fix the online lag by Nov 19th, I guess I have to sell my copy of PES and wait til they fix it to pick it up ... maybe WE2008 instead ....
That's what I'm doing.
Haven't played it in like a week :(
Mine sold yesterday! I got £30 for it, the same I paid for it!
Usually I would have stuck with it but its hard to accept a 50% completed game!
I hope online becomes playable with the patch. I want to start a league...
stanlives
11-18-2007, 03:16
any roster patches out yet worth downloading??
clean515
11-18-2007, 07:29
The sad thing is that konami refuses too officially comment on a patch now.
http://www.winningelevenblog.com/news/no-comment-from-konami/
mufc_danny
11-18-2007, 22:28
I wish Konami would speak out more about the online update.
Am starting to think it will never arrive.
EMAGDNIM
11-19-2007, 00:18
Well, Winning Eleven is dropping Nov 22nd, so I'm hoping that the bugs will be fixed...
I am still hoping for the patch tomorrow...
euroaddict17
11-19-2007, 01:03
I bought FIFA games from 98 all the way to 2005 until I saw PES5. It was amazing and I loved the gameplay. Got PES6 and loved it. Now that I saw PES7... I'm not happy with it and FIFA 2008 is far more better so I'm going to be buying FIFA games from now on. It's more realistic and much better.
EMAGDNIM
11-19-2007, 01:58
Winning Eleven 2008 Famitsu scores
PlayStation 3
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami): 9, 9, 9, 9 - (36/40)
Xbox 360
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami): 9, 9, 9, 9 - (36/40)
PlayStation 2
World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami): 9, 9, 8, 8 - (34/40)
JarOfFlies
11-19-2007, 08:00
Patch today or I'm trading it in.
Just tried Playing PES08 online for the first time, eventually after 5 attempts at entering the registration code, which was right, but for some reason kept telling me it wasnt, i connected up and played a game.... or at least tried to!!!!!
TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE, players dissapearing, ball acting like a pinball, players sticking together!!!!
are Konami using a Sinclair Spectrum 48K as their online server?!?!!?!?
Patch NOW!!!!
Does anyone know if you're able to flick the ball over the head in PES 2008?
In the earlier versions you could flick the ball over you head, turn around and continue with the ball!?
Have they taken out that animation/skill?
The move still exists. Everyting you could do before you still can.
clean515
11-19-2007, 18:37
Patch today or I'm trading it in.
Konami refuses to comment on patch and that probably means : We have already sold you the game we dont care anymore.
I'm happy i sold my game again but i also lost about 50% of what the game costed me ... Oh well never again.
mufc_danny
11-19-2007, 19:34
Bad choice to sell the game. Its an amazing game to play with mates.
Keep telling yourself that the patch will arrive soon!
Dont hold you're breath! Have they even made a downloadable squad update yet like Fifa 08 did instantly?
Although you can edit you're teams and register players unless Konami release an update those changes dont take effect online, meaning England without Joe Cole!
Dont hold you're breath! Have they even made a downloadable squad update yet like Fifa 08 did instantly?
Although you can edit you're teams and register players unless Konami release an update those changes dont take effect online, meaning England without Joe Cole!
the way I feel for one I would not be suprised the patch getting scraped. Another if ofline not addressed I would not care if they have said ef it. Its quite scanderlous that only online has been mentioned when ofline is very much a big issue especially during goalmouth gameplay it gets very cronic. The fact the object of the game is to be in the box it means its unplayable. Pes6 upscaled had a slight slowdown but it was only in the centre circle went away after couple of games. I have gone back to getting my fix with this its better allround.
I am really to point with this game feeling it should never never have been released for public use. Left to be used as a tech beta so they could learn how to program the ps3. Its that bad.
We should have had a statement in effect that the ps3 was been scraped and they would bring out a special BD ps2 version for the PS3 with a few goodies.
That way we would still got pes2008 but the ps2 version and not this abomadation whch if they cant fix we should all who own it get a free copy pes2009.
Infact I feel I will for the first time negate on buying pes2009 at launch.
JarOfFlies
11-19-2007, 22:51
Traded it in earlier for COD4.
Waste of money.
Comon...any news on the patch?
clean515
11-19-2007, 23:21
No konami are arrogant asshats and says :we already sold you this crap we dont need to patch it.
UkHardcore
11-19-2007, 23:38
You's aint giving Konami much time for a patch, Last year it took them 2 months to Patch PES 6, roughly the same for PES 5 and PES 4 was 3 months, the game has only been out for what? 2 or 3 weeks lol
JarOfFlies
11-20-2007, 00:06
Confirmed: No patch
http://www.winningelevenblog.com/news/no-patch-let-the-lag-continue/
Glad I traded it in.
mavsman4457
11-20-2007, 03:44
This really is horrible. For some reason I still play this game but I get smoked every time by my brother and I am convinced it is because this game just doesn't represent the way humans would act in any sport. The AI is terrible, the keepers are despicable, the defense is deplorable, and the computer just sucks overall. I don't know why I keep turning on this game to play it with my brothers but I have a feeling that I will continue to do so. Thus, I really hope a good good good patch is released soon so my blood pressure doesn't go up too much.
UkHardcore
11-20-2007, 03:54
The patch aint gonnae fix the terrible AI and terrible keepers, need to put up with them til next year
EMAGDNIM
11-20-2007, 04:38
You think they'll release a patch since the WE version is coming out on the 22nd? It would make sense since it would affect the online play of people playing WE vs PES...
kerisabe
11-20-2007, 05:07
I doubt they'll come out with a patch anytime soon.. im lovin the WE2008 demo I downloaded from the Japanese PS Store! The game plays pretty smoothly.. no complaints.. it judders only during a couple replays that's it! The game plays flawlessly on my North American PS3 (NTSC).
timwaters2007
11-20-2007, 07:26
I doubt they'll come out with a patch anytime soon.. im lovin the WE2008 demo I downloaded from the Japanese PS Store! The game plays pretty smoothly.. no complaints.. it judders only during a couple replays that's it! The game plays flawlessly on my North American PS3 (NTSC).
Of course they are not going to release a shambolic demo. When i played the demo i thought that the slowdown was not that bad and everybody was making a big fuss over nothing...then i bought the full game. The slowdown is terrible...worse for me when i installed it on the hard drive. When you get into the box the slowdown can actually cause you to miss open goals its that bad. Dont get me started about online. You can pass the ball to your attacker and it will end up with the oppositions striker.....terrible online mode.
Isnt their a regulating body that prevents games like this coming out? I mean, crap games are going to be released all the time and you cant stop that because while people might hate the game some people might love it. But their should be a regulating body to say that if a game is unplayable because of major faults, it should not be released until it is fixed. This would basically make devolopers buck their ideas up, and not released a game that obviously has major programing issues. Millions of people have put money into konami's pockets and their laughing all the way to the bank, while we have to sit here with a broken game.
I think that most people in the gaming world would prefer a game that works over gameplay or graphics, that has to be the priority. If konami dont release a patch within one week im going to put my copy into a blender and post it on youtube!!!
I will probably buy FIFA 08 in addition to PES (which I already have). I would trade in the PES but I already bought the play guide for it and anyways, the shop would have to allow me to do so.
I was writting them that I want to trade it in and they said I can not, the problem is probably in my comp, not enough ram or bad GPU... Than I told them I have a 60 GB PS3 and they havent answered any of my emails since that :)
oh well, I like to play the game anywas so I dont worry about it so much
They said they would release a patch on the 19th. It is the 20th.
I wanna play online with my overseas mates and I can't.
If hope the patch will worth the waiting or else.
kerisabe
11-20-2007, 15:25
Of course they are not going to release a shambolic demo. When i played the demo i thought that the slowdown was not that bad and everybody was making a big fuss over nothing...then i bought the full game. The slowdown is terrible...worse for me when i installed it on the hard drive. When you get into the box the slowdown can actually cause you to miss open goals its that bad. Dont get me started about online. You can pass the ball to your attacker and it will end up with the oppositions striker.....terrible online mode.
Isnt their a regulating body that prevents games like this coming out? I mean, crap games are going to be released all the time and you cant stop that because while people might hate the game some people might love it. But their should be a regulating body to say that if a game is unplayable because of major faults, it should not be released until it is fixed. This would basically make devolopers buck their ideas up, and not released a game that obviously has major programing issues. Millions of people have put money into konami's pockets and their laughing all the way to the bank, while we have to sit here with a broken game.
I think that most people in the gaming world would prefer a game that works over gameplay or graphics, that has to be the priority. If konami dont release a patch within one week im going to put my copy into a blender and post it on youtube!!!
Really? and have u tried the Winning Eleven 2008 demo? or ur talkin about PES2008 demo? And yeah, after last night's Software Update 2.0.1, WE2008 demo seems smoother also! No joke. If u havent tried we2008 demo, just go to the jap ps store and download it and see the diff.:confused:
Option File
Has there been one released for the PS3, a new one, preferably with custom boots?
Copyright
11-20-2007, 16:22
Please remove my name of the psn name list, I'm getting fifa 08!
EDIT:£24.99 for PES 2008 on PS3 NOW!!!!!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2008-PS3/dp/B000Q310LO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1195581427&sr=1-3
clean515
11-20-2007, 19:04
They said they would release a patch on the 19th. It is the 20th.
I wanna play online with my overseas mates and I can't.
If hope the patch will worth the waiting or else.
Actually they never said that, it was a fake interview from a site also claiming that MGS4 will go multiplatform.
UkHardcore
11-20-2007, 19:35
Please remove my name of the psn name list, I'm getting fifa 08!
EDIT:£24.99 for PES 2008 on PS3 NOW!!!!!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2008-PS3/dp/B000Q310LO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1195581427&sr=1-3
Half price already lol, sign of a great game :evil:
They better get things sorted for next year or this could be the end of Pro Evo :pale
JarOfFlies
11-20-2007, 20:04
Half price already lol, sign of a great game :evil:
They better get things sorted for next year or this could be the end of Pro Evo :pale
8 months isn't long enough to get next years back on track.
Half price already lol, sign of a great game :evil:
They better get things sorted for next year or this could be the end of Pro Evo :pale
price already half ?????? you bought it for £50? ... I bought it brand new launch day only for £29.
How is that half?
I have enough patience for the patch already ... but my PES is going to trash can if I do not see the patch by next week.
I dont think PES2009 will be any better given the at most 10 months time frame they have.
mavsman4457
11-20-2007, 21:59
Although pro evo isn't good, neither is FIFA. Which is actually sad because there is just no choice. Soccer/football just isn't meant to be played as a video game.
soccerjj
11-20-2007, 23:00
Please remove my name of the psn name list, I'm getting fifa 08!
EDIT:£24.99 for PES 2008 on PS3 NOW!!!!!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2008-PS3/dp/B000Q310LO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1195581427&sr=1-3
Hi, is there anyone can buy it for me then ship it to US?
The release date for US is not clear yet. This is the cheapest price I can find , but Amazon.UK does not ship video game to US.:cry: I've been waiting it for a long time. I really hope that someone can do me a favor. I am willing to pay you via Paypal, if that works please email me or PM me.
Thanks a lot!
kerisabe
11-21-2007, 00:14
Hi, is there anyone can buy it for me then ship it to US?
The release date for US is not clear yet. This is the cheapest price I can find , but Amazon.UK does not ship video game to US.:cry: I've been waiting it for a long time. I really hope that someone can do me a favor. I am willing to pay you via Paypal, if that works please email me or PM me.
Thanks a lot!
play asia...get the we2008
Hi, is there anyone can buy it for me then ship it to US?
The release date for US is not clear yet. This is the cheapest price I can find , but Amazon.UK does not ship video game to US.:cry: I've been waiting it for a long time. I really hope that someone can do me a favor. I am willing to pay you via Paypal, if that works please email me or PM me.
Thanks a lot!
You want to buy from me instead? I want to sell mine ... I am living in the U.S. ( California ) ...
EMAGDNIM
11-21-2007, 03:03
play asia...get the we2008
I second this notion :DD
Or there are a bunch of people on this thread who will be willing to sell you their copies...
UkHardcore
11-21-2007, 10:37
price already half ?????? you bought it for £50? ... I bought it brand new launch day only for £29.
How is that half?
No one said £29 is half of £50, but i think you'l find the rrp price of the game is £50 ;)
As i said before i think Seabass has been working on a next gen version already because no way he spent a year on PES 2008, no chance in hell
Seriously, why many of you come here just to say you have Fifa? This is to talk about PES, not Fifa...if you are not pleased with PES simply sell it or buy Fifa but dont bother coming here to bash the game even more.
I am enjoying it with all my usual mates, it still feels like PES to us.
kerisabe
11-21-2007, 12:44
Agree! This is a PES thread. Nuff said.
Duff-MaN_
11-21-2007, 13:19
Seriously, why many of you come here just to say you have Fifa? This is to talk about PES, not Fifa...if you are not pleased with PES simply sell it or buy Fifa but dont bother coming here to bash the game even more.
I am enjoying it with all my usual mates, it still feels like PES to us.
I agree this thread would be much better without that gers fan:-D
clean515
11-21-2007, 14:17
As i said before i think Seabass has been working on a next gen version already because no way he spent a year on PES 2008, no chance in hell
He has been working on it... Very slowly because of all the dope he smokes. ;)
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1157/2qtgxu8kx9.jpg
Actually they never said that, it was a fake interview from a site also claiming that MGS4 will go multiplatform.
Dammit and I believed the f***heads.. :evil:
Oh well if no patch was announced, no patch will be coming anytime soon I guess. :-?
soccerjj
11-21-2007, 19:01
You want to buy from me instead? I want to sell mine ... I am living in the U.S. ( California ) ...
Yes, I do. I have played PES 2008 on PC for a while. After 2 ML season, I thought this is still the best soccer game (CM3 is the second).
Is online playable yet? I want to start playing some people.
clean515
11-21-2007, 20:33
Is online playable yet? I want to start playing some people.
If you play very early or very late yes but sometimes the servers are so busy you just shut down the game and disconnects because you cant stand it.
SixAxisRumble
11-21-2007, 21:11
servers?
This game is P2P is it not?
Its seems that England failed to qualify to Euro 2008, too bad for you.
You can always make the Euro in PES ;)
outlander2346
11-21-2007, 22:08
:pWe won!!!!! I mean my country Croatia has defeated England.
clean515
11-21-2007, 22:10
:pWe won!!!!! I mean my country Croatia has defeated England.
Never in my life have i been cheering so much for Croatia, damm that was nice.:)
outlander2346
11-21-2007, 22:15
Never in my life have i been cheering so much for Croatia, damm that was nice.:)
Yes it was and it was the greatest game I saw in a while. It had an atmosphere of an Euro or World cup game. Russians must be cheering for us too.:p
Our manager was pretty happy too. He truly represents what football means to us.
but my favorite england ... don't even want to talk about it, i guess they deserve this ... they should sack the manager too ...
PS3World
11-22-2007, 00:29
Bunch of useless wankas the england players are.
this is too bad...
Portugal wont have the chance to beat england again in the euro...:))))))
kerisabe
11-22-2007, 05:33
England didnt qualify? :(
they didnt deserve to go through at all!!
Shin Asura
11-22-2007, 11:46
Here's the box art for England and Japan
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/110/we03se4.jpg
clean515
11-22-2007, 12:38
Now anyone seen the new football manager patch ? Now konami could learn from them, 200 mb of coding just to improve the game and it already runs smooth and really nice to play.
Duff-MaN_
11-22-2007, 16:43
SCOTT CARSON IS A LEGEND!!!
hrvoje77
11-22-2007, 18:52
CROATIA i love you.voolim HRVATSKU
what are the hooligans gonna do next summer now?
Well i have been reading this thread for a couple of weeks now and i've finally decided to join to get my thoughts across.
First off i dont dislike the game but i far from think it's great. So many problems like Speed of gameplay, Bad Goalkeepers, Graphics and Sounds, Presentation is really bad also. Then we have online, Seabass said it was 1v1 because he had worked hard at getting it playing with no lag at all and it would be like playing someone in the same room, i mean c'mon this is the laggiest game i have ever came across.
So many bad points now the good, it still kinda feels like PES (just much easier than usual) and erm well thats the only good points i think. As for Fifa although most people say it's better this year i still couldnt bring myself to buy the rival football game. I just hope PES 2009 isnt as bad as this one. Guess am going to stick with PES 6 on PS2 :(
mufc_danny
11-22-2007, 22:46
England where terrible last night.
If anyone desevred to quallify it was scotland!
Yes, I thinkg England doesnt deserved to qualify, too bad scotland didnt.... I am from slovakia, we have been out for some time... but I am looking forward for next summer
Any news about the PES update?
thanks
F.C.U.M.
11-23-2007, 12:37
what are the hooligans gonna do next summer now?
Same as normal, the Italians are still in it....pr1ck!
New stuff...
Seabass: "We thought about delaying PES 2008"
Posted on November 23rd, 2007 at 04:51 EDT
The man behind the Pro Evolution Soccer (http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php#) series, Shingo "Seabass" Takatsuka has admitted that PES2008 wasn't up to the standards they hoped when it was released.
The game, plagued by problems ranging from lag to missing features, was released on time back in October, but Konami have since provoked rumours that a patch may be released to counter the game's problems, as previously reported on PSU.
But in an interview with PSM3 Magazine, Seabass admitted: "We never wanted to release PES 2008 in this state on PS3 (http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php#).
"In fact, we thought about delaying it but different factors meant we had to [release it]."
Although Seabass didn't elaborate on these factors, it may have been related to the success of fierce rival series FIFA, and the further potential loss in sales to EA Sports' popular game (http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php#) had the game been delayed.
"It's so far away from what we wanted. As a developer, we've worked the same way since the days of SNES (http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php#). We're simply not set up for multi-platform development."
And despite the fact that the next-gen version of PES has been in development for 2008, the pressures of developing for the PS3, PS2, PSP, Xbox 360 (http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php#) and PC seems to have taken its toll.
The game arrived with huge anticipation, and it could be that the disappointment was simply down to the sheer expectation stirred up by gamers. Moving on, however, Seabass was optimistic for future next-gen versions of the game.
"Look at the way the PS2 version panned out from the first to the last game. We're well on course to follow suit on PS3."
Fans are expecting a huge improvement for PES 2009, but despite Seabass showing some signs of optimism, he was cautious not to increase the expectations of the series' loyal band of followers.
"PES 2009 is in development, but after hearing the criticism, we'll be taking it back to the drawing board. It might not be next year, but it will be soon”, he said.
If you are not ready for MP developement come back to PS only.
Give us the **** ONLINE patch!
http://www.psu.com/Seabass--+quot;We-thought-about-delaying-PES-2008+quot;-News--a0001941-p0.php
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 13:41
You know theirs something far wrong when the games producer sais the game is not upto standards, and judging that article it doesnt sound as if PES 2009 will be a true nxt gen game??
"Fans are expecting a huge improvement for PES 2009, but despite Seabass showing some signs of optimism, he was cautious not to increase the expectations of the series' loyal band of followers"
Well he admited that the game was rushed...due to Multiplatform issues, they are not ready for that.
JarOfFlies
11-23-2007, 13:55
You know theirs something far wrong when the games producer sais the game is not upto standards, and judging that article it doesnt sound as if PES 2009 will be a true nxt gen game??
"Fans are expecting a huge improvement for PES 2009, but despite Seabass showing some signs of optimism, he was cautious not to increase the expectations of the series' loyal band of followers"
I can't see it being much better, unless he produces a miracle in the next 8 months.
samonuske
11-23-2007, 14:09
shouldnt have gone multiplatform, stuck to his roots and given the best version to the ps3, impossible to play Pro on the 360 controller, the dpad is just horrible, i really hope they fix it, i was so close to buying fifa for the 1st time since fifa 95!!!!
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 14:18
Yeah he sais his team cant handle multiplatform yet PES 4,5,6 were all multiplatform and were amazing games, it's just his team couldnt make a step up to nxt gen.
samonuske
11-23-2007, 14:42
pes 6 on the 360 was an abomination!! and pes 4 was released on the playstation 2 1st and released about 6 weeks later on other platforms, pes 5 was released later on the PC, and was the first game to be released together on ps2 and xbox, when you could simply port games over with no problems.
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 15:13
PES 4 was realeased on Xbox exact same day as the PS2 same with 5, You obviously dont know what your on about if you think PES 4 did not come out for the xbox.
Both games were identical apart from the graphics being better on Xbox.
I can't see it being much better, unless he produces a miracle in the next 8 months.
Sadly i think your right :(
sounds like from that article from seabass no patch is coming surely they would have said so. Infact he admits the next version already in development and that it wont be likely 2009 and were not to expect again a truly next gen but probably likely just a working version of 2008 with probably all those features which was in ps2 on the ps3. Hence basically we will be getting Pes2008 in 2009.
So will they give us free trade in for this next version( I bet they wont but they should). If they had not the resourses to handle so many platforms why the hell did they make so many. They had to options develop some and delay others or ditch some of them.
To me seabass has got greedy eyes, bigger than there resources. Why the heck it did not get delayed. PES gamers are loyal if they new it was being delayed YES we would be complaining disgruntled but go and buy fifa come on seabass you dont have much faith in you customers do you.
Personally I still feel it would been better for the ps3 to have not been made at all due to the resources issue. We could have got an extended Ps2 game on BD with say loads of stadiums editing goodies which could not got on DVD9. Ps3 then could have upscaled it. Yes we would have been disapointed no true ps3 version but if seabass would have explained the reasons I think we would have accepted it. I know I would have.
What will change next at some point seabass will have to make a choice ps3 or ps2 not both.
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 15:24
sounds like from that article from seabass no patch is coming surely they would have said so. Infact he admits the next version already in development and that it wont be likely 2009 and were not to expect again a truly next gen but probably likely just a working version of 2008 with probably all those features which was in ps2 on the ps3. Hence basically we will be getting Pes2008 in 2009.
So will they give us free trade in for this next version( I bet they wont but they should). If they had not the resourses to handle so many platforms why the hell did they make so many. They had to options develop some and delay others or ditch some of them.
To me seabass has got greedy eyes, bigger than there resources. Why the heck it did not get delayed. PES gamers are loyal if they new it was being delayed YES we would be complaining disgruntled but go and buy fifa come on seabass you dont have much faith in you customers do you.
Personally I still feel it would been better for the ps3 to have not been made at all due to the resources issue. We could have got an extended Ps2 game on BD with say loads of stadiums editing goodies which could not got on DVD9. Ps3 then could have upscaled it. Yes we would have been disapointed no true ps3 version but if seabass would have explained the reasons I think we would have accepted it. I know I would have.
What will change next at some point seabass will have to make a choice ps3 or ps2 not both.
LOL are you crazy? Pes 2008 is only 2gb... how on earth are they gonnae fill a dvd and then more to fill blu ray???? :shock:
samonuske
11-23-2007, 15:55
[quote=UkHardcore;2192241]PES 4 was realeased on Xbox exact same day as the PS2 same with 5, You obviously dont know what your on about if you think PES 4 did not come out for the xbox.
http://www.gamershell.com/news/17340.html
came out much later, read up yourself first.
[quote=UkHardcore;2192241]PES 4 was realeased on Xbox exact same day as the PS2 same with 5, You obviously dont know what your on about if you think PES 4 did not come out for the xbox.
http://www.gamershell.com/news/17340.html
came out much later, read up yourself first.
Yes it did, i got both versions and the xbox version came out later with online play (crappy online play).
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 16:23
Well in that case they have to either make it for PS3 PC or Xbox 360 only or we are gonnae end up with the same crap next year, Seabass himself sais he cannot cope with multiplatform so surly making it for either PC or any next gen console is the only answer?
Yes it did, i got both versions and the xbox version came out later with online play (crappy online play).
Yeah online play was crap (although not as bad as PES 2008 ) but it did get sorted at the end of January.
mufc_danny
11-23-2007, 16:32
is the pes online patch gonna come out?
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 16:34
Once it's ready yeah it will come out
JarOfFlies
11-23-2007, 16:41
They need to ditch the ps2 version.
Just focus on the next-gen versions. Nevermind the psp/ps2 etc..
Well in that case they have to either make it for PS3 PC or Xbox 360 only or we are gonnae end up with the same crap next year, Seabass himself sais he cannot cope with multiplatform so surly making it for either PC or any next gen console is the only answer?
Yeah online play was crap (although not as bad as PES 2008 ) but it did get sorted at the end of January.
LoL...no it didnt PES4 was always crap, PES6 on the other hand got patched and got perfect online.
UkHardcore
11-23-2007, 17:35
PES 4 was fine after the patch, certainly alot more playable than the other online football game at the time (England game) Same with 5
Also PES 6 was terrible online at first then after a couple of months was near perfect.
Ok, you must have owned a different PES4 than me and my buds because the one who wasnt hosting always got a lot of lag, and also a slower game than the single player.
If they fix the lag problems in PES 2008 the game will be perfect online since the speed is just the same as single player.
Megacamz
11-24-2007, 15:02
hey guys i need help, i am trying to play pro evo and every time i do it gets to loading a match then crashes my ps3....i have reinstalled the game data and also deleted any option files and tried it all from scratch, the disc is fine and my ps3 is playing other games, whats up?! :confused:
UkHardcore
11-24-2007, 17:02
Ok, you must have owned a different PES4 than me and my buds because the one who wasnt hosting always got a lot of lag, and also a slower game than the single player.
If they fix the lag problems in PES 2008 the game will be perfect online since the speed is just the same as single player.
You honestly like the speed of the game? Am sure you were going on about before it was out that you much prefer slow PES games?
hey guys i need help, i am trying to play pro evo and every time i do it gets to loading a match then crashes my ps3....i have reinstalled the game data and also deleted any option files and tried it all from scratch, the disc is fine and my ps3 is playing other games, whats up?! :confused:
make sure your not downloading anything in the background off psn. the same thing used to happen to me.
You honestly like the speed of the game? Am sure you were going on about before it was out that you much prefer slow PES games?
Agree.
PES5 was my favorite due to the pacing, which was sloooowwww, but **** addicting. Every goal was earned. In the true fashion of PES. PES 08 is an abomination!
hey guys i need help, i am trying to play pro evo and every time i do it gets to loading a match then crashes my ps3....i have reinstalled the game data and also deleted any option files and tried it all from scratch, the disc is fine and my ps3 is playing other games, whats up?! :confused:
as mentioned make sure you are not downloading anything from ps store .
other reasons why game can freeze / stop loading , according to Konami
1) if the game is installed and you are using players with uploaded faces .
2) if the game is installed and you have autosave activated .
UkHardcore
11-24-2007, 21:59
Agree.
PES5 was my favorite due to the pacing, which was sloooowwww, but **** addicting. Every goal was earned. In the true fashion of PES. PES 08 is an abomination!
Yeah PES 5 has been the best so far (maybe 3) it was just that god dam ref giving freekicks all the time for FA all
Darth Turnip
11-24-2007, 22:08
hey guys i need help, i am trying to play pro evo and every time i do it gets to loading a match then crashes my ps3....i have reinstalled the game data and also deleted any option files and tried it all from scratch, the disc is fine and my ps3 is playing other games, whats up?! :confused:
Hi mate. As the other reply says it could be something to do with downloading in the background. However, my copy also crashed countless times when I wasn't downloading. I returned it to the shop and replaced it and guess what........ the new copy did exactly the same. Yesterday I returned it and got a full no quibble money refund.
I took it to the counter and told the guy what had happened and he immediately offered me a refund or change for another game. He also said that they'd had lots of copies returned, what a sorry state of affairs. If it helps, I got my copies from Blockbuster games.
I've been a Pro Evo fan since the PSOne but I have conceded that this year FIFA is better (at least it's playable). I'd recommend you get your cash back before the game devalues further, Gamestation are already selling it at half price. I was hoping to wait for a patch but without one on the horizon I had to get rid before it was too late. If the patch does come out and fix all of the many problems PES2008 has, you can always pick up a cheap pre-owned version. It's a cast iron certainty tere will be lots of them kicking about.
mavsman4457
11-25-2007, 00:55
Is it possible to bend it on free kicks? I have looked everywhere and haven't found a way. The free kicking system needs to be improved. It is based too much on luck. We need to control it with the right analog stick somehow. Maybe if you pull it one way and then push it the other it will aim straight in that direction then if you make a curving motion with the stick then it will bend and the faster you move the stick the harder the shot. Also, on penalty kicks it too much luck. It needs to be like MVP 2005 pitching where you they show you a soccer ball and then you just move it to a certain part of the goal and choose your power. The way it is now, you could miss the goal just by tapping square, there is no safe shot and no risky shot. It is all luck. Someone please correct me if I am missing something.
UkHardcore
11-25-2007, 01:07
You bend it by holding a direction before and after you kick the ball.
You bend it by holding a direction before and after you kick the ball.
Yup, and its all about skill.
clean515
11-26-2007, 15:19
Yup, and its all about skill.
It's way toooooooooo easy to score on freekicks about half of all my shots ends up in the goal.
Good for you mate, i only often score those close to the box.
PATCH 1.10 is out GO GO GO GO GO
(and report back)
130MB btw
You serious? How can we get it?
YEAH its out!
http://nextgenpes.co.uk/?p=67
YEAH its out!
http://nextgenpes.co.uk/?p=67
Did i look like i was lying?? :p
How can i get it? I booted the game but nothing happen!
Ah its working...! Lets try it.
And btw the WENB OF is out too.
Ah its working...! Lets try it.
Please report back im dying to know what it does!!!
Well, i am trying it offline in the worst stadiums and it seems slowdowns are gone, sometimes i get a hickup in the box but nothing serious at least. Replays are fine too but i think they already were in my HDTV.
I didnt have any major problems offline in my tv but now it seems even better, maybe its just me? Can anyone else confirm it?
Anyone want to try it out online?
WENB option file is out and the 1.10 patch from Konami .... is this the beginning of Pro Evo heaven????
havent had chance to download yet as im at work but a friend has reported that all OFFLINE lag ie in penalty boxes etc has gone and its smoooooth!!!
ONLINE anyone??
Gonna try an online match now, report back soon.
Gonna try an online match now, report back soon.
Good Man!!!
although im guessing it will take a while for ONLINE play to improve as we will only see the difference once most online gamers have patched too.
Good Man!!!
although im guessing it will take a while for ONLINE play to improve as we will only see the difference once most online gamers have patched too.
Everyone has to download the patch before they can play online!!!!
adamevex
11-26-2007, 16:41
If this patch fixes the online issues then konami can count me as back in the game. I have the cash ready for my own PS3 and PES so had better geti it right.
sammy20v
11-26-2007, 16:42
how do you download this patch, just turned it on no mention of a download
obviously makes sense!
the servers will be taking a bashing this evening then!!
So what do people think?? game realeased on the 26th Oct .... Patch released 26th November!
is a month an acceptable timeframe to adress fundamental flaws in the game??
(and i know the game shouldnt have had flaws in the first place but that argument has been done to death)
if this patch fixes online and offline, do we forgive konami and put our faith back into the product for a 2009 title??
sammy20v
11-26-2007, 16:44
ah found it cool will download now then
Well, just played an online match...its a little better but it still lags, just not as much. No more teleporting... Maybe if you can play with a full connection (3 green bars) its even better, i played with a guy with 2 green bars.
Still dissapointed with the online though, i expected to be as perfect as offline play.
I´ll be back latter.
Wow, lag free match for the 1st tme since release! It wasn't totally flawless but easily playable and was good fun.
AtticusTRD
11-26-2007, 17:09
Doesnt sound like it fixed anything then.
Only lag i always got was when there were to many men in the box. On corners etc etc..
Question on the Wenb option file. Do i have to delete all my edited done to my national team in order to install this file?
Offline is much improved. There is next to no slowdown and the replays are almost all smooth too.
Online still sucks ...the patch doesn't touch anything regarding the online issue.
The offline slowdown is almost completely gone - haven't tried online yet.
But is it just me, or is the quality of the visuals decreased a little? It seems that they have removed some of the AA - the visuals (especially the goalposts) seem more jaggy now.
sammy20v
11-26-2007, 17:37
The offline slowdown is almost completely gone - haven't tried online yet.
But is it just me, or is the quality of the visuals decreased a little? It seems that they have removed some of the AA - the visuals (especially the goalposts) seem more jaggy now.
I thought it was just me but I think you are right, wish I had the old version to compare, ah well I will happily take worse visuals for better game play, although I do wonder how uncharted and cod4 are rock solid and Pes isnt
UkHardcore
11-26-2007, 17:37
The offline slowdown is almost completely gone - haven't tried online yet.
But is it just me, or is the quality of the visuals decreased a little? It seems that they have removed some of the AA - the visuals (especially the goalposts) seem more jaggy now.
Lowering the graphics level would help the game run better, although surly they wouldnt need to do this considering the hardware it's running on.
Seems online is just as bad as ever from what i've read on Pesfan.
The offline slowdown is almost completely gone - haven't tried online yet.
But is it just me, or is the quality of the visuals decreased a little? It seems that they have removed some of the AA - the visuals (especially the goalposts) seem more jaggy now.
thats tru I have had a couple of slight slowdowns 30-35 yards out and couple halfway line on the touchline which also gave me a screen tear.
But the game working much better not bothered if they had to water graphics to do so.
Anybody noticed the game been slowed slightly. A gripe I had with Master league that I found seems also gone. The AI could barge and kick lumps out of you and they rarely got a freekick against. Yet you breathed near them and you gave freekicks against. It was hard enough than have this annoying problem.
Since the patch its really good ebb and flow still toughish for me but its now a joy to play offline. One thing maybe an impending issue for some is default players on the hardest level in master league. I found they can out pace AI players. They seem to be much stronger physically than before the patch too and able to hold of and ride challenges.
Maybe this how they modified it but could this make it easier to master the master league. I had not won before the patch yet first game won 3-2. Before it was nigh impossible to even get into a position of threat.
All in all I like the patch its given me back my Pes love.:DD
JarOfFlies
11-26-2007, 18:10
Does it fix the lag?
Uh...
EMAGDNIM
11-26-2007, 18:24
I've been reading on various fan sites that it has improved the lag for online play...
Does it fix the lag?
Uh...
95% offline slowdown/lag has almost gone just noticed a minor goalmouth one from a corner but nowhere near the slowmo standards of pre patch just a slightly. As a lot reporting the patch has helped online only slightly but this might be a server based issues not the actual game. If that is the case The patch wont fix that.
LMAO Sounds like a **** patch!
Lowered the graphics, thats hilarious! What a pathetic solution!
Online not fixed? Forgive me if Im wrong but wasn't that what the patch was for?
Wow, I never thought I wouldn't regret selling the game I have played consistently for the last 10 years or so!
EMAGDNIM
11-26-2007, 18:32
LMAO Sounds like a **** patch!
Lowered the graphics, thats hilarious! What a pathetic solution!
Online not fixed? Forgive me if Im wrong but wasn't that what the patch was for?
Wow, I never thought I wouldn't regret selling the game I have played consistently for the last 10 years or so!
Um...you haven't used it yet have you? So how do you know what it's like? One person mentions that it looks a little worse on HIS set and you have a bitch fest...
Anyways, From what I've been reading, some people are reporting that it's been improved (online). Some mention that they don't have slowdown 95% of the time, while others say that it's "playable" but not perfect. Take it as you would like too...
Um...you haven't used it yet have you? So how do you know what it's like? One person mentions that it looks a little worse on HIS set and you have a bitch fest...
Anyways, From what I've been reading, some people are reporting that it's been improved (online). Some mention that they don't have slowdown 95% of the time, while others say that it's "playable" but not perfect. Take it as you would like too...
like I said LMAO
95%! By you're calculations 5% of the game is still ****ed up! Thats not good enough!
Console games should not suffer from slowdown!
And forgive me for my 'bitch fest' Ill try and keep the claws in! :mrgreen:
Ty1erDurden
11-26-2007, 18:50
Does this fix any of the issues with SD-tv´s?
Cause otherwise i´ll return the game and might have to get FIFA instead... after years and years of playing pes... :confused:
thanks in advance!
cheers.
I dont know where do you think that graphics have been downgraded...still looks the same to me.
Lag online is better, but certainly not gone.
Offline is flawless to me though.
AtticusTRD
11-26-2007, 18:56
So will i have to delete my edited national team before i install the option file?
Finally some good news ...
but I still hope them to fix the online !!
BUt one thing I have noticed when I play online yesterday BEFORE the patch is up,
most teleporting disappeared ... I have some lag still but definitely a lot less than before, and keep in mind, this is before the patch is up .. on last night, that is why I think they did something to the Server to help the online lag .. and the less lag online ppl are claiming now is not from the patch, is from some server upgrade instead.
Well the fact that they have already released a patch (eventhough we don't know for sure what it has exactly fixed yet) ..that means the online problem won't last for long ..hopefully!
To me ...online still has not changed. Offline is perfect just the way it was. I love the game and never been addicted to PES more than now!
clean515
11-26-2007, 19:13
Online is still pretty laggy but the offline is 95% smooth now also in replays.
DaveNI1979
11-26-2007, 19:22
do i delete my old option file and install kits or keep it and install kits ??
do i delete my old option file and install kits or keep it and install kits ??
Yes, or install it on a different account.
Personally i did not install it because i already had one good OF, and my own created teams.
mavsman4457
11-26-2007, 19:56
You bend it by holding a direction before and after you kick the ball.
So if you start out by aiming all the way left and then hold right and shoot and continue to hold right then your shot will bend right? By the way, after the patch my offline game still suffer from poor framerate. Maybe I shouldn't have the game installed to my hard drive? Wait, was I supposed to delete my old option files in order to make the patch work? I downloaded the patch but never did anything with my option files, just kept using them. Maybe that's the problem?
The patch has nothing to do with the OF...The patch installs it self onto the PES data.
To use that OF you will lose your edited data.
samonuske
11-26-2007, 20:12
i was so happy when i found out the patch was out, i was one of the people who had horrible lag offline let alone online, and this update hasnt changed a thing for me, all it does is make the graphics even worse!! Masterleague is still unplayable, Konami really taking the P*ss, and ive been playing on hdtv setup perfectly!! loyal iss player since the SNES, this is a disgrace.
Is it just me or has the game slowed down a touch? I havn't played for a few days but it feels a tad slower.
I went to register my copy for online play and i get an error i have put the code in (all caps) but what is the password. Is it one you make up or your PSN account one?
This is so so silly first online game that needs a code it like playing stuiped PC games
Someone help me please
Many one in other forum has stated the same, a bit slower game play ... i got to try it myself tonight...
I like a bit slower game play as well...
i was so happy when i found out the patch was out, i was one of the people who had horrible lag offline let alone online, and this update hasnt changed a thing for me, all it does is make the graphics even worse!! Masterleague is still unplayable, Konami really taking the P*ss, and ive been playing on hdtv setup perfectly!! loyal iss player since the SNES, this is a disgrace.
I think the game speed remains, so do graphics.
Whats wrong with your ML?
I went to register my copy for online play and i get an error i have put the code in (all caps) but what is the password. Is it one you make up or your PSN account one?
This is so so silly first online game that needs a code it like playing stuiped PC games
Someone help me please
The password its the one you want, you wont have to use it again since the game remembers it. Try and register yourself with the same PSN id you use.
And yes, its stupid. Konami sucks at online gaming.
how do you get the patch ?
Turn it on, nothing is mentioned, went to network and the same pop up messages appear.
This may just rekindle my love of pro evo......
The password its the one you want, you wont have to use it again since the game remembers it. Try and register yourself with the same PSN id you use.
And yes, its stupid. Konami sucks at online gaming.
I will give that a go now cheers
forzanerazzurri
11-26-2007, 20:36
like I said LMAO
95%! By you're calculations 5% of the game is still ****ed up! Thats not good enough!
Console games should not suffer from slowdown!
And forgive me for my 'bitch fest' Ill try and keep the claws in! :mrgreen:
How old are you? The offline play is now virtually flawless. Way to sell your copy loser. The game runs perfect now. Thanks Konami. They could have just not cared and forgot about it, but they genuinely tried to fix it, and sucessfully fixed the offline lag. Some people never stop complaining tho. This game is still 10x better than fifa.
samonuske
11-26-2007, 20:38
[quote=Nunalho;2201691]I think the game speed remains, so do graphics.
Whats wrong with your ML?
My gameplay in materleague is really bad almost the whole game runs in slow motion, alot better in exhibition, but the games heart is masterleague!!
Dark_Light
11-26-2007, 20:40
How old are you? The offline play is now virtually flawless. Way to sell your copy loser. The game runs perfect now. Thanks Konami. They could have just not cared and forgot about it, but they genuinely tried to fix it, and sucessfully fixed the offline lag. Some people never stop complaining tho. This game is still 10x better than fifa.
Or they could have released a quality product from the start and avoided a whole heap of problems.
Also it looks like people are still having issues like the guy above me.
samonuske
11-26-2007, 20:41
How old are you? The offline play is now virtually flawless. Way to sell your copy loser. The game runs perfect now. Thanks Konami. They could have just not cared and forgot about it, but they genuinely tried to fix it, and sucessfully fixed the offline lag. Some people never stop complaining tho. This game is still 10x better than fifa.
no they havent!!, so i guess if it works for you it works for everyone!! so no they have not successfully fixed offline lag, slowdown, stuttering.
samonuske
11-26-2007, 20:43
i would have bought this on the 360 , but that **** dpad!!!! makes it unplayable anyway, back to PS2, thanks for the false hope Konami!
forzanerazzurri
11-26-2007, 20:51
no they havent!!, so i guess if it works for you it works for everyone!! so no they have not successfully fixed offline lag, slowdown, stuttering.
You still have offline lag? How? Mine runs fine.
samonuske
11-26-2007, 21:06
how??? i duont know how, buts its still there, and twice as bad when i play masterleague! what the hell did this patch do aprt from lower graphics??
P.s. just noticed replays running alot smoother!!!!!!!! i skip them anyway. felt like a slap in the face "here take perfect replays but you get Sh*t gameplay!!
I also get slowdown i ML.
The graphics are lowered - you can see this on the goalposts - they are more jaggy now. It seems that Konami have removed the antialising, or most of it, from the game. Before the update, the graphics was a lot more soft and smooth.
The replays are much better now, and some of the offline slowdown is gone, but that's about it -I really miss the antialiasing in the game - hate jaggies!
how??? i duont know how, buts its still there, and twice as bad when i play masterleague! what the hell did this patch do aprt from lower graphics??
P.s. just noticed replays running alot smoother!!!!!!!! i skip them anyway. felt like a slap in the face "here take perfect replays but you get Sh*t gameplay!!
well, just to let you know, my copy run fine and I do not see any slow down anymore in offline .... before you bashing ... try to think why 95% of us saying the patch fixes offline play and you are the one of the few that said it did not do any good. Setup difference? type of tv? what version of ps3?
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forzanerazzurri
11-26-2007, 21:14
Yeah i noticed the players are alot more jagged. I havent tried master league, but that is so odd that slowdown would be there and not in exhibition or anything.
I also get slowdown i ML.
The graphics are lowered - you can see this on the goalposts - they are more jaggy now. It seems that Konami have removed the antialising, or most of it, from the game. Before the update, the graphics was a lot more soft and smooth.
The replays are much better now, and some of the offline slowdown is gone, but that's about it -I really miss the antialiasing in the game - hate jaggies!
what do you mean by ANTIALIASING ... I do not get this exactly ..
samonuske
11-26-2007, 21:16
Setup is a samsung hdtv connected thru hdmi to ps3, and i have a launch NA ps3 (imported). and i know it helped alot of people, but another thing alot of those people probably never had offline lag before, like 2 of mates.
sammy20v
11-26-2007, 21:16
have got to say offline is pretty much flawless now, guess it isnt helping everyone but its like a different game for me now
samonuske
11-26-2007, 21:17
Yeah i noticed the players are alot more jagged. I havent tried master league, but that is so odd that slowdown would be there and not in exhibition or anything.
Slowdown is there in exhibition but not alot, but if its raining in the match, then its unplayable!
after now playing awhile forzanerazzurri I have encountered more and more lag/slowdown in the master league like samonuske is reporting. As yet not checked clubs like real madrid which I noticed before the patch caused major slowdowns. Not checked outside master league to see if we been given the qualifier goodies.
On the slowdowns it appears worse as you play more and more games it slowly deterorates. As yet its not got as bad as pre patch when it was totally playable but those lags do take a shine of it especially in corners. Hopefully it will still be very playable not get to the state before patch.
Corners still on ocasions are making it hard to defend or attack as the slowdown strikes affects your judgement to attack the ball.
Yes I own HD TV myself although not what I deem expensive. You do question whats there Test display a 10 grand plasma.
ps footnote during playing on hardest level in master league. I actually noticed Team vision was working very well.
Or they could have released a quality product from the start and avoided a whole heap of problems.
Also it looks like people are still having issues like the guy above me.
Cheers mate, nice to see someone sensible on the forums tonight!
Also, the sad thing is not everyone has there PS3 connected to the internet, so they have to make do with an incomplete game!
I hate to bash PES, I have loved it since ISS and this has been the most I have ever looked forward to it. I thought for the first time it would make the step up and not only bring good gameplay but good graphics and overall appearance for the first time.
Instead it became an arcade game. Gameplay is far to fast, anyone thinking this game speed is realistic obviously doesn't watch football! And the ball flying at 100mph in the air doesnt help.
The menu screens are quite simply awful and they havent even released a squad update!
I admit Fifa is still bad, the main thing that bothers me is the lack of response with the players and I miss the excellent shooting from Pro evo, still feels like a lottery on Fifa!
But for the first time ever the graphics and presentation actually have made a big difference on Fifa. The in-game news, the music and overall presentation are fantastic!
But most importantly its fun online and offline doesn't lag and replays are perfect!
what do you mean by ANTIALIASING ... I do not get this exactly ..
Before the update players and the enviroment in the game had more antialiasing applied to them. Antialiasing helps smoothing out jagged lines. I notice this the most on the players from distance, but also on the goalposts - they are not straight like before, but slightly jagged!
DaveNI1979
11-26-2007, 23:52
Straightaway I noticed the pitch looks different since the patch, they look terrible compared to fifa now. still lagging online too, no were near fixed yet. Try again konami.
Loving the new patch
Well done Konami!
A patch oh my god! A patch!!
/me runs furiously like a cartoon character to download it
Edit: After the patch the offline mode is perfect. No notable slowdowns on replays or anywhere else. Very smooth gameplay, well done, now we are getting there.
The online mode still needs quite some work to be done though, I guess in the next patch they will focus on the online mode.
I wish I could save the replays though. A guy was in my area attacking, like 5 meters from my goalkeeper, then he passes quickly the ball to his goalkeeper on the other side of the court which with his turn shots and scores from there.(all that in 2 seconds)
After a few matches: Online still plays bad, but offline runs prefectly.
mavsman4457
11-27-2007, 04:11
Upon further review my game now runs smoother, the gameplay is flawless visually, don't get me wrong there are still tons of AI flaws, and the replays are nearly flawless but now when I go to PK's after extra time it goes twice as fast and it's crazy. It doesn't really matter because it was hard to read the shooter's foot even at normal speed but now it is 100% guess. Anyone else experience this?
i was so happy when i found out the patch was out, i was one of the people who had horrible lag offline let alone online, and this update hasnt changed a thing for me, all it does is make the graphics even worse!! Masterleague is still unplayable, Konami really taking the P*ss, and ive been playing on hdtv setup perfectly!! loyal iss player since the SNES, this is a disgrace.
what camera angle are you using m8 ? i use the default and the game runs flawlessly on offline , my friend uses a slightly more closeup view and the game stutters like crazy . Both of us have the same HD Bravia tv so its nothing to do with hardware setup .