Pro Evolution Soccer Official Thread (patch 1.2 out)

[Nunalho]

I m happy with the same old gameplay...and just because the game is not revolutionary doesnt mean it should be a 7...its fun rigth? Its still pes.

Anyway i hope next year they push the envelop some more.

[UkHardcore]

So, it's good, but it could do with a graphics overhaul?

Surely they don't mean the game engine.

The game engine defo needs a large upgrade, you can only turn 8 ways ffs.

PES 2008 is an arcade game, dont know why but Seabass has throw out simulation this year.

[Lil Peel]

so it plays more like pro evo 4 then?

[G_H_G]

so it plays more like pro evo 4 then?

Yep. Even down to the way that the keepers are retarded.

[jx23]

cant wait for this game :)

[UkHardcore]

Yep. Even down to the way that the keepers are retarded.

Agreed, infact i'd say the keepers are worse this time round than PES 4 :oops:

Honestly, hit the ball straight at them... they move out of the way to let it in, And Adriano still smashes the ball home from anyway :suspect::suspect::suspect:

Check out the goalkeeper vid a 3rd of the page down..

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

[TheDude]

Ive played the PC demo, ridiculously fast! Football is not this fast so Im not as excited as I usually am! :cry:

[mauaus]

Ive played the PC demo, ridiculously fast! Football is not this fast so Im not as excited as I usually am! :cry:

It is fast, lets just hope we get an option to slow things down

[UkHardcore]

Remember once in wide view it slows down, but still imo will still be too fast .

[zenkaipower]

[QUOTE]Killzone 2? MGS? Gears of War? Bioshock? Motorstorm? Virtua Fighter 5? Even Fifa is a million miles away from what it was on last gen systems...I could go on...

Million miles away? Surely you are just joking:???: right? Except Motorstorm which is a new IP only thing that got big improvement so far from the last gen is graphics. Can we call it a revolution? I dont think so, its more of evolution to me.
FIFA millions miles away from what was on last gen? That's the biggest BS I have heard on this forum. I played the demo and that game sucks big time IMO. And you call that a revolution? lol


Fifa is a huge Revolution compared to the last gen games. Its not great, but its at least half decent now (better than PES at the moment). PES is still stuck in last gen mode, even the graphics are poor. They managed to even make the gameplay worse in a lot of aspects compared to the last gen versions. You'll see for yourself when you play the demo. The keepers are terrible, the passing is just wierd, the dribbling is like PES4 (twitchy and totally unrealistic) and it all adds up to a poor football game. Its the 1st PES/ISS that I wont be getting in over 10 years and that says a lot.

I dont understand your attitude sir. Are you some PES hating fanatic?

Seriously dude are you on crack on something?

[UkHardcore]

Zenkai do you honestly like the demo?

And yes Fifa is defo a million miles away from what it was on PS2, yes it still not very good but if you cant see the difference then am guessing you have not played it.

[zenkaipower]

Zenkai do you honestly like the demo?

And yes Fifa is defo a million miles away from what it was on PS2, yes it still not very good but if you cant see the difference then am guessing you have not played it.

I dont own 360 so I didnt play the demo of PES.

All I know about FIFA is that I hate it. EA forgets that game needs to be a game and not some cluster of animations that mimic real football.

[elale10]

All I know about FIFA is that I hate it. EA forgets that game needs to be a game and not some cluster of animations that mimic real football.


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agreeeeeeeee

[Nunalho]

Well two of my best friedns have the demo for the 360 and they love it...they are hardcore PES players so the game must be good.

BTw this isnt even the final build, they might fix some issues.

[gabriox3good]

i have the demo on 360 n i have to say this game is beautiful, every thing is so realistic accept the diving bcos if get caught is always a yellow card, there r many new tricks i mean many, so far so good, u guys will love this game i swear.

[mauaus]

I can honestly say i love it, the game is beautiful and it plays great, players like C Ronaldo and Ronaldinho move imho very realistically

[Nunalho]

Guys, i found this now in the blog.

TONS of new screens from the PS3 version, it appears to be from the final build.

Looks great to me...! I love the visuals, sorry! I cant wait for this!!

Estádio da LUZ CONFIRMED! =P

It seems the PS3 version also features achievements!
http://playscope.com/@@@15777-pro_evolution_soccer_2008.html&medias=Screenshots

(PS: no demo coming this week)

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

Some of the pics:

http://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gifPro Evolution Soccer 2008http://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gif PS3http://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gifhttp://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gifhttp://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gifhttp://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0167.jpg

http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0213.jpg
http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0258.jpg


http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0058.jpg
http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0063.jpg

http://playscope.com/images/common/pixel.gifhttp://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0084.jpg
http://playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/1/5/15578/Screens/0285.jpg

[adamevex]

Nice screens. I wonder how those achievements play into the PS3 plans of rewarding players. It might just be a konami thing.

[UkHardcore]

PS3 demo will be up very shortly :)

Gonnae be interesting hearing more views on it.

[sumax]

PSN Demo Not So Close... (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/09/psn-demo-not-so-close.html)

Right now this is totally unofficial, but I've heard some pretty bad news for the PS3 owners who were hoping to be able to download the PES 2008 demo today. As many of you know Sony only update PSN every Thursday, meaning if the owners were going to get a demo it would be today.

After talking to a few guys in the business though things look grim. It's now most likely the demo will be released next Thursday, with the consolation of a new video put up instead.

So far this hasn't been confirmed, and to be fair I certainly hope I'm wrong. We'll let you know as soon as we hear anything.

It's another downer on Sony's behalf. We know it's something Konami have no control over, let's just hope Sony get it sorted out asap.


Yours,

W.E.N.B. Team
http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

[DaveNI1979]

********** B**TARDS I Will be so pissed if the demos not there. SONY ARE OFFICIALLY INEPT IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE. They can put there video were the sun doesnt shine!

[fiero911]

nice screens..i wonder how they'll work out the achievements

[zenkaipower]

It looks great. I don't know what have some of you expecting maybe CGI?? But this looks next gen to me. I just hope they ditch 360 version in the future and make a best out of PS3 hardware. I don't think they are even using SPE-s more then 10%.

[The One!]

5% more like it, games great

[lubo25naka]

Anyone confirm if its coming out today on PSN?

PLEASE LET IT BE SOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[Nunalho]

First official review just came in.




"...Theres no other game on PS3 that you're guaranteed to be playing obsessively


this time next year. PES is magic because it is football in all its glory and


madness, and as such you're never really finished with it."




Its from OPM and that´s a great score!



http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

Regarding the demo i ve already metioned that probably it will not come.

[adamevex]

Check out this beautiful video of PES 2008. It's neard HD quality. Now can anyone tell me if it plays at the same speed as the demo? Because from what i saw it looks ok. The only thing i didn't like was the fact that i can now see how the players only move in eight directions. Sure, the animation masks it somewhat, but Seabass needs to address that to give us more options.

http://playscope.com/@@@15777-pro_evolution_soccer_2008.html&medias=Videos

It looks great and i can't wait for it to come out.

Also, is there any word on if there will be worldwide servers?

[UkHardcore]

It looks great. I don't know what have some of you expecting maybe CGI?? But this looks next gen to me. I just hope they ditch 360 version in the future and make a best out of PS3 hardware. I don't think they are even using SPE-s more then 10%.

So you think it looks nxt gen but you dont think it uses 10% power of the ps3... honestly you make me laugh throughout this thread. Unless you have just stepped up from a ps2 they graphics are awful!!

And ditch the 360 to make it more nxt gen? Surly you mean the PS2 as it's the PS2 holding things back.


And Sony where the hell is the demo?? Why hold it back?? Muppets!!

[Nunalho]

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-70562.aspx

According to this the demo is coming...altough its predictions, like the Killzone MP beta..LOL.

[JarOfFlies]

And ditch the 360 to make it more nxt gen? Surly you mean the PS2 as it's the PS2 holding things back.




Agree completely. It's not the 360 that's holding it back, it's the PS2.

Drop that version make a proper next-gen title. :mrgreen:

[Nunalho]

****, with all this PES 2008 stuff going on it almost seems the game is coming out like next week...lol.

**** wait.

[elale10]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo

[PS3World]

No PSN Demo?!?!?!

We get late stuff again!!!!!

[Nunalho]

No PSN Demo?!?!?!

We get late stuff again!!!!!


That is Sonys fault, not Konami. :|

[zenkaipower]

So you think it looks nxt gen but you dont think it uses 10% power of the ps3... honestly you make me laugh throughout this thread. Unless you have just stepped up from a ps2 they graphics are awful!!

And ditch the 360 to make it more nxt gen? Surly you mean the PS2 as it's the PS2 holding things back.


yeah I stept up from PS2, what's wrong with that? I find PES graphics better than FIFA.

I didn't say it doesn't use 10% of PS3 power, I said SPE-s, next time read with your brain on, okay?

And again I didn't say ditch 360 to make it next gen. I said ditch 360 in a near future possibly after PES09 and make best from PS3 hardware which is undeniable stronger than 360.

PS2 version is here because of 120 mil PS2 out there. But PS2 version is not what is holding back this game. It is Konami decision to publish PES on every known platform to make more green stuff and I don't blame them because PES never sells like FIFA on PS2.

Im putting you on my ignore list...

[Lil Peel]

dutch store updated

no demo

ONLY TRAILER!

[PS3World]

dutch store updated

no demo

ONLY TRAILER!

**** this!! Sony really need to sort out its PSN, cant stand the delays!!!!

[Nunalho]

dutch store updated

no demo

ONLY TRAILER!


Well, its official then.

Sony blew it again.

[Lil Peel]

back to playing pro evo 6 then?

UK store updated too - ONLY TRAILER!

[Nunalho]

Thank you Sony for this old crappy trailer, i think we like it better than a Demo...

[DaveNI1979]

SO PIS**D OFF ITS UNTRUE!!! Sick of these delays, no excuses. Thats what you get when the service is free, f**K all! Pes 2008 is reason I bought a goddam ps3. Pathetic sony again

[mauaus]

Thank you Sony for this old crappy trailer, i think we like it better than a Demo...

How hard is it to post a demo, konami gives it to them, they post it... doesnt seem too hard, 360 did it

[michaelgreer]

Sony can actually go and f*** themsleves bunch of overpaid useless piece of s***. They are so poor it is unreal one update a week and they might aswell have not updated store at all it was that bad i could pull better update out my ass.

[TheSteeeeels]

I still have hopes of an American release.

[michaelgreer]

I have a good mind to go and buy a 360 just to spite them bags of ****. liars and basically theives SONY CAN SHOVE THERE PSN UP THERE ASS

[UkHardcore]

Man, i really feel for you guys having to wait another week, you's must be pulling ya hair out :S

I guess Sony dont have alot of stuff for PSN Store and have to stretch things out :(

[TheSteeeeels]

I have a good mind to go and buy a 360 just to spite them bags of ****. liars and basically theives SONY CAN SHOVE THERE PSN UP THERE ASS

I'm frustrated aswell, but really, when did Sony lie?!

And to trade consoles because Sony didn't put out a demo, seems a little petty.

[michaelgreer]

Yes it is pathetic and petty but Sony need to realise they cant keep screwing people over because sonner or later its gonna bite them in the ass.

[Keesie]

Pretty dissapointing EU update again...when will we get the US quality SCEE? We want new demos, such as PES2008...not old demos which were already on the US store for 1 or more weeks...

[manje10]

No demo just a useless trailer, infact the trailer just pis*** me of even more because when i look at it i just think what could have been this week. Oh well i guess the ppl at sony really must be smoking some shi* when they were planning for this update.

[Nunalho]

I am so pissed at Sony right now. I was eagger for this thursday since last update thinking that PES demo was coming...but no. We have to wait another week! Seriously is it that hard to give us demos at the same time Live gets them?

Just end with this weekly update.

[championwarlord]

I have a good mind to go and buy a 360 just to spite them bags of ****. liars and basically theives SONY CAN SHOVE THERE PSN UP THERE ASS

Be prepared for the RED RING OF DEATH!

[Nunalho]

I have a good mind to go and buy a 360 just to spite them bags of ****. liars and basically theives SONY CAN SHOVE THERE PSN UP THERE ASS


LOL.

Cool down pal. Sony didnt promised anything on PES 2008, people just assume that it would release today, so they didnt lie. And calling them thieves what for? At least they dont make you pay for using PSN dont they :rolleyes:

[The One!]

i'll second that. BIG TIME

[JarOfFlies]

So lame..

The trailer is uesless :(

[xiv_R_A_I_D_E_R_]

lol you know what would be Bull()**** if the U.S psn store gets the demo first

[Dark_Light]

FFS...i was rally looking forward to the demo being released today...I'll have to wait till next week (?)

[dghdfh]

when is WE coming out for US cause PES is UK right?

[SnakeDevil]

when is WE coming out for US cause PES is UK right?

AFAIK its coming out spring 2008 in the U.S.A.

[Itaintrite]

I have a good mind to go and buy a 360 just to spite them bags of ****. liars and basically theives SONY CAN SHOVE THERE PSN UP THERE ASS
Feel free to. Just don't come running back when you find out how ****ty the 360 controller is for PES, and how... weird the demo's gameplay feels (at least to me it did, and maybe it was because of the controller).

OPM just gave PES 2008 a 9/10 review. Awesome.

[The One!]

got fifa 08 and now waiting for PES

[jj03]

PS3, what ****ing waste of money, it really is, Cant believe I spent £400 of my hard earned cash on this crap. Will be getting 360 next week.

Great..enjoy your xbox360 mate...it has some great games...

[PS3World]

Great..enjoy your xbox360 mate...it has some great games...

I just had enough of waiting, my patience has just run out, especially Sony's treatment for us europeans, we get **** all from them.

looking forward to playing Bioshock,Halo3 and gears amongst others. Am thinking about selling my PS3 then buy it again when MGS4 and LBP comes out xmas next year. yes xmas next year, don't tell me you believe them when they say MGS will come out on 'Q1 2008'

****ing joke. enough is enough.

Sony you just lost yet anther fan.

[jj03]

I just had enough of waiting, my patience has just run out, especially Sony's treatment for us europeans, we get **** all from them.

looking forward to playing Bioshock,Halo3 and gears amongst others. Am thinking about selling my PS3 then buy it again when MGS4 and LBP comes out xmas next year. yes xmas next year, don't tell me you believe them when they say MGS will come out on 'Q1 2008'

****ing joke. enough is enough.

Sony you just lost yet anther fan.

Dude..just do whatever you feel is right for you atm....invest in the ps3 again when you feel it's worth purchasing again....regardless of what anybody says to you...when it has games that you want then they will deserve your cash...as for me...i'm a nurse, so work alot but play warhawk and watch blu rays when i have time...i'm a happy camper..

[gatsu999]

i'm absolutely with you; but not only ps3 , actually all next gens is a ****ing waste of time
In one hand you have the overhyped halol and in the other you have a serious lack of games..............ah also this strange thing with nerd and flash gaming :lol:
But hopefully things will change in the middle of 2k8

For now ps2 rules

[UkHardcore]

i'm absolutely with you; but not only ps3 , actually all next gens is a ****ing waste of time
In one hand you have the overhyped halol and in the other you have a serious lack of games..............ah also this strange thing with nerd and flash gaming :lol:
But hopefully things will change in the middle of 2k8

For now ps2 rules

eh?

Good games in the last 4 month... Halo3, Bioshock, Warhawk, Madden, Forza 2, Heavenly Sword, Skate, PGR4, Virtua Tennis, Stranglehold, Fifa, Graw 2, Tiger Woods 08, DIRT plus LOADS others...

Forthcoming in the next 2 month...

PES 2008, Half life 2, Folklore, Nba 2k8, nhl 2k8, UT3, Virtua Fighter online, Smackdown, Assasins Creed, Army of Two, Kane n Lynch, Mass Effect & NFS

Certainly aint a lack of games this year!!

Ps2... pffft :DD

[adamevex]

So can we all get back on topic? Thank you.

Great news for anyone that can get their hands on it.



Sony To Sell Exclusive PS3+PES 2008 Bundle! (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/09/sony-to-sell-exclusive-ps3pes-2008.html)



A huge thanks to ThomasGOAL for this news. Today in an interview with Georges Fornay, Chairman of PlayStation France, it was confirmed Sony plan to launch a PES 2008 PS3 bundle in November. Confirmed as an exclusive bundle for Sony, right now no one is too sure if its an offer that will stay in France.

Find the full interview here:

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/high-tech/0,,3556371,00-sony-tout-jouer-noel-.html (http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/high-tech/0,,3556371,00-sony-tout-jouer-noel-.html)

Not a biggie as Im sure retailers will be doing their own bundles when the game hits, but news nonetheless.

Your's,

W.E.N.B. Team





I know it won't happen but if this bundle comes to the U.S then i'm getting it for sure.

Source (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/09/sony-to-sell-exclusive-ps3pes-2008.html)

[The Anderlation]

Okay was just about to pre-order my PS3 version and then I saw this:

Brand new commentary by John Champion and Mark Lawrenson.

No way am I putting up with him! I hate him commentating IRL, never mind listening to him in a game!

Mark 'Spot the Obvious' Lawernson.

Looks like it is Fifa 08 this season for me. Bad move Konami, unless you prove me wrong in the demo that he has decent dialogue.

[Dante18]

****...why still no PES2008 demo(XBL) in my region.....

[UkHardcore]

Okay was just about to pre-order my PS3 version and then I saw this:

Brand new commentary by John Champion and Mark Lawrenson.

No way am I putting up with him! I hate him commentating IRL, never mind listening to him in a game!

Mark 'Spot the Obvious' Lawernson.

Looks like it is Fifa 08 this season for me. Bad move Konami, unless you prove me wrong in the demo that he has decent dialogue.
Simple...Just do what everyone else does with Pro Evo, Turn the commentators off.


On the blog thiers some new screens from the 360 version.... and it looks better than the ps3 screens the other day from the same website :o

[TheSteeeeels]

Anderlation, the demo has no commentary as it would prolly make the demo size huge. It's the same for FIFA aswell.

[Musb12]

When are all the new Ps3 games coming out. When i walked into my local game store there is like one shelf of PS3 games and 3 to 4 shelfs of Xbox games. I havent bought a new game for the ps3 in 3 months.:(

Back to topic. The PES 2008 demo better be on the PSN next week:evil:.

[Lil Peel]

Okay was just about to pre-order my PS3 version and then I saw this:

Brand new commentary by John Champion and Mark Lawrenson.

No way am I putting up with him! I hate him commentating IRL, never mind listening to him in a game!

Mark 'Spot the Obvious' Lawernson.

Looks like it is Fifa 08 this season for me. Bad move Konami, unless you prove me wrong in the demo that he has decent dialogue.

you can always change the commentary language ;)

[mauaus]

you can always change the commentary language ;)

I speak english and spanish (first language) and i dont know why i play pes in italian... so much cooler

[thebusiness86]

anderlation - if u r gonna buy fifa instead of pro evo because of ML bein a commentator then off u pop and buy it ! lmao talk about the toys gettin thrown out the pram.

[bigwops]

I speak english and spanish (first language) and i dont know why i play pes in italian... so much cooler

Where do you change commentary language in the game? of course i'm speaking of PES6. Italian commentary would be super cool because i'm tired of hearing the same old lines from the english guys. Thanks.

[adamevex]

Do you guys know if all the localised languages will be on one Blu ray disc or different discs in different regions. I would love the option to have a lot more alnguages.

[Lil Peel]

new England played revealed!

http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/wp-content/photos/thumb_lampard.jpg

[Dark_Light]

new England played revealed!

http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/wp-content/photos/thumb_lampard.jpg

ROFL must be Frank Lampard's brother Paul ^_^.

[klonere]

9 from OPM 9 from OPM

*does happy dance*

Release date any one?

[SnakeDevil]

new England played revealed!

http://www.pesgaming.com/blog/wp-content/photos/thumb_lampard.jpg

Looks nothing like Fat Frank :twisted:

[JarOfFlies]

Been playing Fifa for like 6 hours now :DD

Whilst it's vastly improved and easily the best Fifa game to date, it's still not better then PES. But, it's a good alternative.

[heartofdragon85]

Your right Lilpeel! Looks nothing like Frank! No i don't no a Paul Lampard! lol!

[heartofdragon85]

I watched the pes 2008 video and even tho i havn't played the demo yet, just by looking at it, i would have to say that this is the best looking game to date! Can't wait ti try thr demo! Raging that it didn't come out when it was supposed to! :bang:

[The One!]

i dont think the demo is coming out, lets just buy the game on the 26th of next month.

[UkHardcore]

Been playing Fifa for like 6 hours now :DD

Whilst it's vastly improved and easily the best Fifa game to date, it's still not better then PES. But, it's a good alternative.

Has the speed and responsiveness been improved from the demo?

[The One!]

it has dramtically and its a little bit easier.

[SnakeDevil]

Theres finally a PES icon in the shop now! Go get it!

[The One!]

thats the trailer isnt it, its impossible to be the demo.

[SnakeDevil]

thats the trailer isnt it, its impossible to be the demo.

I'm not talking about the PSN, I'm talking about the forums shop where you can buy icons, they finally put up a PES icon.

[zenkaipower]

Theres finally a PES icon in the shop now! Go get it!

What?? Surely you don't mean a demo?

[The One!]

I'm not talking about the PSN, I'm talking about the forums shop where you can buy icons, they finally put up a PES icon.


well you know what the reaction you'llget once you mention store in any way.

[SnakeDevil]

What?? Surely you don't mean a demo?

NOOOO!!! I don't mean a demo, a PES icon in the forum shop, not a PES 2008 demo on PSN!!!

[The One!]

NOOOO!!! I don't mean a demo, a PES icon in the forum shop, not a PES 2008 demo on PSN!!!


I wish it was on the PSN,comon sony they gave you the demo ages ago.

[gabriox3good]

i have the xbox360 demo, should i make a vid with all new move on it.

[UkHardcore]

You can read the opm review here..

http://bobinator2000.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=165682


What is strange is they comment a couple of times saying how slow it is?? They must of been full of ching while reviewing it.

[SnakeDevil]

I wish it was on the PSN,comon sony they gave you the demo ages ago.

Yep, Sony have let the PS3 userbase down with the slowness of PSN, it really is pissing a lot of people off.

[Nunalho]

NIce review there...i am soo **** anxious for this baby.

http://www.360indians.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27&st=180&p=22033&#entry22033

[adamevex]

The OPM review sounds unbiased and puts things in perspective as far as the new features are concerned. However, at the end of the day i only listen to other gamers opinions and my own hands on.

[Musb12]

Its been highly rumored that the PES 2008 Demo will be in the Ps3 store on the 4th October. That next week on Thursday.

Soo that means its nearlly here.:)

[Dante18]

i have the xbox360 demo, should i make a vid with all new move on it.

which region are u from?? i still cant find pes2008 demo on XBL...i am in the asia region.

[fiero911]

I really hope its coming next week.....i'm sick and tired of waiting for stuff on PSN.....really pissin me off

[Lil Peel]

Its been highly rumored that the PES 2008 Demo will be in the Ps3 store on the 4th October. That next week on Thursday.

Soo that means its nearlly here.:)

Well, Sony DOES have the demo so it should be likely

but then again anything's possible with Sony

[Nunalho]

All this fuss about the demo...i really dont care anymore. Besides remember the final version will be even better than the demo.

[Wronganswer]

I have played PES2008 on PS3. When I first played the demo on Xbox360 I was a little dissapointed. For some reason the PS3 version feels or looks a little better. There are some framerate issues in the game. Specially in the replays. There is a slight slowdown when you play sometimes but it didn´t bother me at all. You barely notice it. Only the replays are the problem. Good news is the players look a better on the PS3 version. The graphics just look a little sharper.

I have been playing FIFA for a week now, but to be honest PES is just more fun. :-D

Edit: I think the version I played will be the final one. I don´t know if the framerate problem on the replays will be fixed.

[Nunalho]

I have played PES2008 on PS3. When I first played the demo on Xbox360 I was a little dissapointed. For some reason the PS3 version feels or looks a little better. There are some framerate issues in the game. Specially in the replays. There is a slight slowdown when you play sometimes but it didn´t bother me at all. You barely notice it. Only the replays are the problem. Good news is the players look a better on the PS3 version. The graphics just look a little sharper.

I have been playing FIFA for a week now, but to be honest PES is just more fun. :-D

Edit: I think the version I played will be the final one. I don´t know if the framerate problem on the replays will be fixed.

According to the review there are no framerate problems...so i take you played the Lipeizig build.

[Wronganswer]

According to the review there are no framerate problems...so i take you played the Lipeizig build.

You could be right, I´m not 100% sure which version I played.
The teams were well up to date tho.

[SnakeDevil]

You could be right, I´m not 100% sure which version I played.
The teams were well up to date tho.

Where and when did you play this demo?

[Wronganswer]

Where and when did you play this demo?

Few days ago. A friend of my friend is in the gaming industry. He got the game a week ago.

[gate777]

Theres finally a PES icon in the shop now! Go get it!

It's about time. I had requested one months ago and it shows up only a little late, oh well, better late then never I guess

[UkHardcore]

Few days ago. A friend of my friend is in the gaming industry. He got the game a week ago.

Strange no one else has got any of the Promo games yet

[Dirty Rotten]

How comes everyone is screaming for a demo of PES 2008?
Is it because the previous 6 have been so bad!?!

Yes that was a serious question because PES is and has been console football for the last 6 years+.

[UkHardcore]

How comes everyone is screaming for a demo of PES 2008?
Is it because the previous 6 have been so bad!?!

Yes that was a serious question because PES is and has been console football for the last 6 years+.


You seem a bit confused :suspect::suspect::suspect:

[Dirty Rotten]

How comes everyone is screaming for a demo of PES 2008?
Is it because the previous 6 have been so bad!?!

Yes that was a serious question because PES is and has been console football for the last 6 years+.


You seem a bit confused :suspect::suspect::suspect:

Sorry, I'll clear up the confusion.
PES has been the only console football games worth buying for the last 6 years.

Yes it would be nice to have a demo but people have played the FIFA demo and still bought the crappy FIFA game.
My point is that PES > FIFA as a game.
Maybe I should have added more > because EA haven't got to grip with the idea that football is about the ball.

As far as football games go, there is only PES!

[Nunalho]

Sorry, I'll clear up the confusion.
PES has been the only console football games worth buying for the 6 years.

Yes it would be nice to have a demo but people have played the FIFA demo and still bought the game.
My point is that PES > FIFA as a game.
Maybe I should have added more > because EA haven't got to grip with the idea that football is about the ball.

As far as football games go, there is only PES!

I dont get you also...

So PES is the best footy game, sure. But we cant be eagger to play the demo?

That´s exactly why we want to play the demo...because PES rocks! ;)

[fiero911]

Big news at WENB guys...Sony to sell the bundles with PES2008 in Nov, the regions are not mentioned though. But Europe can be assured

[Dirty Rotten]

Sorry, I'll clear up the confusion.
PES has been the only console football games worth buying for the last 6 years.

Yes it would be nice to have a demo but people have played the FIFA demo and still bought the crappy FIFA game.
My point is that PES > FIFA as a game.
Maybe I should have added more > because EA haven't got to grip with the idea that football is about the ball.

As far as football games go, there is only PES!


I dont get you also...

So PES is the best footy game, sure. But we cant be eagger to play the demo?

That´s exactly why we want to play the demo...because PES rocks! ;)

The release date of PES is only a couple of weeks away - wouldn't it be a better idea to have them polish the game rather than working on the demo.

Sorry about the FIFA hate - the license has so much potential.
Please award it to Konami who have represented the beautiful game so well.
Like you said, PES rocks !! and then some...

Make sure you guys add me to buddies list when PES is released.
Does anyone know if there will be online leagues or tournaments?

[Nunalho]

Sure, but the demo is ready since Leipezig, its up to Sony to put it out now... And the game has gone gold, reviewers have already the final version.

[Musb12]

Demo is already done as other consoles have it already.

[UkHardcore]

The demo is poor, it's putting alot of people off the game...you cannot even change the camera angle.. it's zoomed in :(

They'd of been better putting out a more finished demo instead of the crap they put out.

You's aint missing anything... honestly.

[JarOfFlies]

IGN PES interview with Seabass


Considering he's the brains behind the critically acclaimed Pro Evolution Soccer series, Shingo 'Seabass' Takatsuka likes to keep a low profile. Indeed, when the PlayStation 3 version debuted at Leipzig in August it was notable not because it was the first time PES was playable on a next-gen Playstation, but because Seabass wasn't there to show off his highly-anticipated baby.

But, despite his knack for steering clear of the limelight IGN was granted an audience with the man that made PES, to talk about what we can expect from the next in the series and what elements of his games make him most proud.

IGN: What are the main additions to PES 2008 over PES6?

Seabass: Obviously, it will be the first next-gen format on the PS3. Since we started on next-gen formats last season we have finally had time to make big changes that are much more noticeable in the game. For example, visually it's clear to see we changed a lot. We also redesigned the menus, plus the models of the players are much more beautiful. Players will notice that right away.

We have also introduced our new Teamvision AI. This is a sophisticated AI programme that learns and adapts according to the player's style of gameplay.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/824/824000/winning-eleven-pro-evolution-soccer-2008-20071001051148055.jpg

IGN: Can you explain how the Teamvision AI system learns from the way people play?

Seabass: If it's attacking AI, when you get the ball back from the CPU it will remember how you did it. So, the next time the CPU attacks, it will do so differently, maybe passing the ball around faster or changing the timing of dummies. When defending, the Teamvision AI learns how a player prefers to attack and changes its tactics accordingly. For instance, if a player often attacks down the side then the CPU will try to have their defenders take care of the wings.

On top of that, each team has its own strategies, to become more aggressive when attacking or defending depending on the flow of the match. Overall, this AI helps make the flow of the game close to the real football match.

IGN: What new moves will feature in the game and how will players be able to pull them off?

Seabass: We cannot say which but there are plenty of new moves in the game. When we say moves it's not just about a single, certain move either. Instead there are more subtle things, such as the timing of passes, the start of runs… We've tweaked and changed these timings and that affects the way the game plays, so much so it often feels like some of the moves are new.

IGN: How difficult was it creating the next generation of PES while still keeping the famed gameplay and control at its core?

Seabass: It was really, really tough, because we knew that this was going to be the stepping stone for taking our title into the next gen. We realised that past PES games were pretty much close to perfect - we tweaked the games every year and continued to do so for a long time, so it was natural for the game to be good. However, we knew we'd have to start afresh for the next-gen game.

IGN: What new modes will feature in the PS2 game?

Seabass: There are two new things. Firstly, there's World Tour Mode, in which you have to go around the world and battle it out against the club teams. For every match there's a mission you need to accomplish, such as 'come from behind and win after 75 minutes into the game', 'perform a hat trick', 'score from a set piece' and so on. To win you need to fulfill these conditions against all the 50-plus club teams in the game. For core PES players, this new mode will undoubtedly be exciting to play.

The Community Mode is also new. It keeps records of all the games you play against friends, so you can see who scores the most and the percentage of wins you notch up, as well as who's the most consistent scorer and so on. You can also keep track of two-v-two matches, to see which pairing works best.

IGN: Will there be new teams and leagues in the game?

Seabass: We have increased the number of teams this year, yes, and it's not at the expense of other features either, which we're happy about. There are plenty of new licensed club teams such as Tottenham Hotspur, RSC Anderlecht and Spartak Moscow, as well as official national teams like Brazil, Scotland and Portugal. In total there are now more than 250 teams.

IGN: How has the Master League been expanded for the next generation versions?

Seabass: I finally accomplished one of the things I wanted to do for a long time, which was increase the number of teams in the league from 16 to 20. Now they look and work as authentically as real football leagues. It's not a huge point but it has always been something I wanted to do.

We have also upgraded the glitter side of the Master League, by adding weekly reports, displaying the replays and highlights of the match in the main menu… We really wanted to build something that would make users feel more involved with the players and the club teams they create and manage. We have also added a 'popularity' rating for each club, which affects negotiations when transferring players.

IGN: Is there one element of PES 2008 you are most proud of?

Seabass: I am most proud that we created something that surpasses PES6. In terms of AI and the way the game plays, I think this creates a new game to the PES of old. The traditional PES graphics have improved too and I'm proud we have accomplished both - the graphics and the gameplay - at the same time. You will have a great time with your friends, I guarantee that!

[Nunalho]

Nice, i was about to read it!

[Musb12]

I hope that they add more leagues in the master league this year. I liked it when there were 3 divisions.

[bigwops]

Can someone confirm this?...
In previous versions of PES released in america, were you able to change commentary languages?I'm not sure if the NTSC version of PES2008 will have all the languages. If it doesn't i'll probably get the Euro release because having italian commentary would be amazing while playing in the Serie A league. This would make playing more authentic.

[Nunalho]

Can someone confirm this?...
In previous versions of PES released in america, were you able to change commentary languages?I'm not sure if the NTSC version of PES2008 will have all the languages. If it doesn't i'll probably get the Euro release because having italian commentary would be amazing while playing in the Serie A league. This would make playing more authentic.


I dont think so. You should get the Euro version nontheless because it comes out earlier and you ll have lots of languages to chose from.

[mauaus]

I dont think so. You should get the Euro version nontheless because it comes out earlier and you ll have lots of languages to chose from.
QFT im getting the euro version, plus community support for this game (option files and what not) is waaaaay better in Europe ;)

[adamevex]

QFT im getting the euro version, plus community support for this game (option files and what not) is waaaaay better in Europe ;)

That's reason why i want to get the PS3 version from europe. However i'm worried about lag when i want to play online. I do have a fast connection, but i don't know if it'll be good enough.

[mauaus]

That's reason why i want to get the PS3 version from europe. However i'm worried about lag when i want to play online. I do have a fast connection, but i don't know if it'll be good enough.

You will Lag but if youre worried about that just sell it a month before the NA release

[fiero911]

as mauaus said, u will have lag, and its probably best to sell it before the release of the game. Here at AU we cant even connect to our friends in Australia in PES6, which is a real pain. WE're directly connected to Europe. I hope this prob is fixed in PES08

[Apollo]

Take a look at the Wii graphics. The character models look almost as good as the PS3 version from those images

http://kotaku.com/gaming/bold-initiative/pro-evo-wii-screens-details-305925.php

[Nunalho]

Take a look at the Wii graphics. The character models look almost as good as the PS3 version from those images

http://kotaku.com/gaming/bold-initiative/pro-evo-wii-screens-details-305925.php

:suspect: Those look like PS2 players.

[Saigon]

Take a look at the Wii graphics. The character models look almost as good as the PS3 version from those images

http://kotaku.com/gaming/bold-initiative/pro-evo-wii-screens-details-305925.php

this is a joke...right...

[Nunalho]

this is a joke...right...

Of course it is! Apollo is full of jokes ;)

[mauaus]

Im gonna preorder my copy today, but im in El Salvador (Central America), whats the best place to import from?
Ive ordered from Gameplay and it was a bit on the slow side, what else can i try that will accept a foreign CC?

[Lil Peel]

Interesting read about the PS3 version on http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/konami-ps3-soccer-project-untitled/816313p1.html


It's a new year, and a new, permanent title. For Europe, it won't be Pro Evolution Soccer 7. For North America, it won't be Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/konami-ps3-soccer-project-untitled/). Instead it's just Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 in both regions, so there'll be less confusion for everyone. Not only does the game have a new title, it has a new cover athlete. Manchester United's invaluable Portuguese midfielder Cristiano Ronaldo is the new face of the franchise, and we think it's a symbolic gesture. Ronaldo has been the subject of a great deal of praise, fanfare, and awards over the past year, much like the series has. With that in mind, it wasn't too hard to figure out where to hop on a kiosk at Konami's booth in Leipzig: we just had to look for a giant image of Ronaldo's face.

At last year's Games Convention, the series's producer, Shingo "Seabass" Takatsuka, made an appearance at the show to unveil the first glimpse of PES 2007 on next-gen. This year, however, there was no Seabass in sight to show off the PS3 debut. Maybe Konami preferred to spring that cash for Kojima's appearance? We don't know. However, after playing at least a round on each console, once to a crushing defeat, then a tie on 360, and finally a victory on the PS3, we can confidently say that it feels pretty similar to last year's game on 360, and oddly, it feels a little more fluid on the PS3.

Let us explain, before anyone pulls the fanboy alarm. First, ever since the game's official announcement and screens, we've been aware of the implementation of Team Vision, which will supposedly give the game some very sophisticated AI that learns your patterns and moves and adapts over time. That means that your usual rush to the other end of the pitch to make a cross to someone near the goal box will eventually get shut down hard. Your sloppier passes that aren't particularly realistic will get intercepted. Quite frankly, the computer will learn that you have some predictable moves, and it will take measures to smite them. At least, that's what we've heard.

We've also heard that the game has more animations than PES 2007. That's where things get sticky. We played two rounds of PES 08 on 360, and we noticed that the controls felt a little tighter than last year, although it wasn't drastically different. Also, we noticed that some of the visuals got cleaned up after last year's game. That's not to say that it's a prettier game than FIFA 08, but then, has PES ever been better looking than FIFA? It's safe to say, however, that the pitch actually looks like one from a next-gen game, and less like an upscaled version of Winning Eleven 9 played back on a 360.

On the PS3, we weren't happy with the fact that we couldn't configure the controls in the demo; they were defaulted to match the Xbox 360 mapping. If you've followed our coverage of PES 07, you'll know that we're not fans of the default control scheme on the 360, which uncomfortably puts your modifiers and turbo on the bumpers instead of the triggers. It makes for awkward play when you need precise, comfortable controls. On the PS3, this is made worse by the fact that the current-gen version's controller layout has always worked well. Even so, we really saw the differences between not only this game and current-gen (you'd have to be blind not to), but this version and its Microsoft counterpart. The animations that Konami has trumpeted for this game seem far more evident in the PS3 version. The number of ways that we took Kak¿ into feints and stepovers while playing as Brazil far outnumbered what we saw last year. When we sent a defender out to stop our opponent's Saviola from getting too close to the box, the way that he made a sliding tackle looked quite different from his teammate's. In spite of its controls, we really saw these improvements with the game's debut on Sony hardware.

The other big news this year is that you'll have adjustable option files. This was another big bone of contention we had with PES 07: you couldn't adjust your player names, jerseys or rosters. That meant that North American gamers had a product that gave them a decent game of soccer, but also had expired rosters (thanks to the game's release after the January transfer window closed) and there was no way to adjust trades on teams. Now, you can edit that stuff, although we wonder about the ease of trading option files, as Konami seems to have cracked down on the unauthorized trading of files that have imported logos and images from English Premiership teams.

As for the other versions of the game, we're not sure how much Team Vision will affect the PS2 and handheld editions, mainly because there was no PR at the booth to explain anything; instead, we got some guy with a key who reset a machine for us when it crashed. For now, we think that the PS2 version is probably maxed out in regard to its capabilities and what Konami can do on the hardware, save for fixing online matchmaking. Same goes for PC. The PS2 game didn't look too flattering on the LCD displays showing it off on the floor, and we hope that it will be cleaned up before its release. The PSP version seems to look the same as last year's, including our issues with disappearing hair palettes. No word on what will be different there, either. We tried a few minutes with the DS version, and it seems that Konami is fairly content with continuing to work with a similar engine to last year's game, which we weren't huge fans of.

As of now, we're not sure which countries have official kits secured, but the demo features Argentina, Brazil, Spain, Portugal, France and Turkey. We're hoping that the English, Dutch, and Italian kits are still officially licensed for this year's game, just as they were last year. Besides that, our initial dive into Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 showed us a game that's still a work in progress. The Xbox 360 version seems to build upon last year's game in a few positive ways, although we're more impressed with what the Konami team has managed to squeeze out of the PlayStation 3's hardware, where we saw much more of the promised animations in play. No matter what, however, we at GameSpy hold the series in rather high regard, and eagerly anticipate more playtime with it in the future.

[mauaus]

Good read :) Nothing new though


Interesting read about the PS3 version on http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/konami-ps3-soccer-project-untitled/816313p1.html

[Nunalho]

That preview must be old...its from the Liepezig demo i guess.

[elale10]

i can´t wait anymore for this game!!! i´m going crazy

[Nunalho]

i can´t wait anymore for this game!!! i´m going crazy

So am i bud, so am i...:???:

I dreamed about it last night :mrgreen:

[mauaus]

Im gonna preorder my copy today, but im in El Salvador (Central America), whats the best place to import from?
Ive ordered from Gameplay and it was a bit on the slow side, what else can i try that will accept a foreign CC?

Can anyone help me out please?

[bluekinny]

ha whats really doing my head in, is that mags like OPM have reviewed it so the game must be finished, so why do we have to wait till the end of the month to get it! surely they shd being it forward 10 days or something:( cant wait to see how it is online, and hopfully the everton team will actually have good stats this season! so u can actually choose them online without people thiknig wtf! lol

[gabrielh]

Can anyone help me out please?


do you have paypal ? you can buy everywhere with that (ebay and 99% of online stores).
You just have to find a store willing to ship out of the ountry but most of them do that.

[bluekinny]

i mite just put trevor brookings commentary from pes6 on mp3 and listen to it to calm me down cos i need it now! i hate release dates just relase it wen its done for christ sake, its hard to imagine sumone sumone sumwere is actually playing the full version now:(

[mauaus]

i mite just put trevor brookings commentary from pes6 on mp3 and listen to it to calm me down cos i need it now! i hate release dates just relase it wen its done for christ sake, its hard to imagine sumone sumone sumwere is actually playing the full version now:(

LOL just dont fall asleep with it or youll be torturing yourself when you have your hands empty when you wake up!

Edit:

I do have paypal btw just hoping someone has had a good experience with a shop so i can do the same haha

[DaveNI1979]

Has anyone else pre ordered this yet? I ordered it a week ago with asda online. £35.89 delivered. I hope they despatch before the delivery date cos I couldn't bear the 2hr wait on Fri 26th knowing for 4quid more I coulda have it at 8am. I do this every year with pro evo, im like a child on christmas morning when I finally get it. Might even goto a midnite sale if i can find one cos ill get no sleep anyway. Anyone know who does midnight sales?

[bluekinny]

ooooo an lfc supporter, ill have a few matches against ya

my unckle used to captain lfc:) ron yeats

balls to that though iam an evertonian lolol

[DaveNI1979]

no problem bluekinney, send me a buddy invite we can do a few derbys lol.

[PROTECTOR]

i posted the same reply somwhere...and im too lazy to write a new one :P so here is a copy paste..
xbox360 is not the leading platform for sure....the only reason u see an xbox360 controller is because xbox uses directX like the pc platform which means that the pc version is probably a port from xbox....remember ps3 uses OpenGL.....i played the demo yesterday and my first impressions are it sucks!!! the player motions are realistic....but on the pitch its a chaos...i have the feeling the players and the ball are running on ice...a little too fast..the tempo should be much slower.....its hard to control the ball and the players.....its just not the same feeling when playing....
some bad textures....probably old drivers...need to upgrade...players look very nice...the A.I is ok (top player) hope it will be better with the full version....i just hope that the pc version isnt a xbox port......

[Nunalho]

LEts hope the PSN demo comes out this thursday...

[bluekinny]

hah god not another week of waiting for the demo lolol llet the rumours begin!


has anyone heard anything of how you put your face in the game? can you just use a jpg?
and doesnt everyone htink its a bit perculiar that theres no news whatsoever bout the online mode in pes 2008? i hope to god its doesnt have that stupid sign in thing like with pes6:( that really annoyed me lolol

[Nunalho]

hah god not another week of waiting for the demo lolol llet the rumours begin!


has anyone heard anything of how you put your face in the game? can you just use a jpg?
and doesnt everyone htink its a bit perculiar that theres no news whatsoever bout the online mode in pes 2008? i hope to god its doesnt have that stupid sign in thing like with pes6:( that really annoyed me lolol

YEah, you can use a jpg file.

Dont worry about the online, you wont need to sign in like in PES6 because you have a unified nick for every game...just enter and play online.

[Stevo_ya_bass]

oh my i cant wait for this...

I heard today that there is a demo on xbox live. Really hope we get one on Thursday or sooner. I also really hope the PS3 version wipes the floor with the other formats. Im sure it would entice lots more ppl to get a PS3.

If any1 wants a game, bring it on!...

<-- PSN ID

[fiero911]

u heard it pretty late dude.
BTW nice read abt the PES08, the facct that the ps3 version has better animations and ode stuff. Just 25 more days 2 go

[UkHardcore]

oh my i cant wait for this...

I heard today that there is a demo on sh~t box live. Really hope we get one on Thursday or sooner. I also really hope the PS3 version wipes the floor with the other formats. Im sure it would entice lots more ppl to get a PS3.

If any1 wants a game, bring it on!...

<-- PSN ID

Your just a little bit late mate..... ok infact your about 2 weeks behind the rest of the world.... demo has been on "sh~t box live" for ages, although no idea why you call it that as it's far superior to PSN.

But anyway...PS3 version is 3 times better dont worry ;) 3 times better 3 times bigger 3 times everything... am sure you'l be happy!! haha

:suspect:

[elale10]

When Is The Realese In Usa ???

[alsab3a]

When Is The Realese In Usa ???
I think it's in spring 2008

[bluekinny]

cant wait!

really temptep to buy fifa to fill the void till pro evo comes out but i knw i wont like it
as ive heard its as **** as fall out boy, but i need football! actually ive been playing real football 4 times a week now, i put it down to my excitement waiting for this game lolol

does anyone knw if youll be able to upload your own music like with the 360 version, to be used on replays and the like? i mean actually upload it to the game, iam not talking bout custom soundtracks through the xmb, like upload songs that save to your option file:S i knw it can be done in the 360 version
it mite be in it as achievements are also in the ps3 version, though i recon all they be used for is to get extra pes points:S

[UkHardcore]

News update! (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/news-update.html)

WENBs very own Mr Adam was today at a trade show in Birmingham of all places and got to play a near final build of the game that we are all patiently waiting for, here are the main points that I managed to translate during the phone call we have just had



The game actually plays slower than the 360 demo that we have been playing for a few weeks
In saying that the 360 version plays a slightly quicker game than the PS3 version(Yeah, that confused me as well. Lets move on though eh)


The PS3 version looks a bit more washed out but is still graphically sound
The 360 version looks crisper but with it a bit more cartoony. The colours seem a lot more vivid
Edit mode on the next gen has been drastically reduced as expected:
Only 9 sets of boots to choose from and kits styles are also limited to a set number of patternsAdam was really impressed with how the game played on both consoles, there seemed a more realistic pace to it. He couldnt stop waffling on about how nice it felt to play and how superb everything was! I had to cut him off before the call turned into one I would have to pay £1.50 a minute for!

The version played by Ad is as close to the final version of the game available. Issues regarding gameplay and graphics could easily be resolved before release, whereas the content (teams, features etc) will be the same in the final version.

Much Love
The WENB Team

[JarOfFlies]

EDIT: Nevermind........................

[Nunalho]

News update! (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/news-update.html)

WENBs very own Mr Adam was today at a trade show in Birmingham of all places and got to play a near final build of the game that we are all patiently waiting for, here are the main points that I managed to translate during the phone call we have just had


The game actually plays slower than the 360 demo that we have been playing for a few weeks
In saying that the 360 version plays a slightly quicker game than the PS3 version(Yeah, that confused me as well. Lets move on though eh)

The PS3 version looks a bit more washed out but is still graphically sound
The 360 version looks crisper but with it a bit more cartoony. The colours seem a lot more vivid
Edit mode on the next gen has been drastically reduced as expected:
Only 9 sets of boots to choose from and kits styles are also limited to a set number of patternsAdam was really impressed with how the game played on both consoles, there seemed a more realistic pace to it. He couldnt stop waffling on about how nice it felt to play and how superb everything was! I had to cut him off before the call turned into one I would have to pay £1.50 a minute for!

The version played by Ad is as close to the final version of the game available. Issues regarding gameplay and graphics could easily be resolved before release, whereas the content (teams, features etc) will be the same in the final version.

Much Love
The WENB Team

Good update Uk.

So taking from this the final build will :

Be slower than the demo, more realistic :-D

Has a crappy edit mode :neutral:

360 version more cartoony/PS3 version more realistic, less colorfull.


I have to say i m dissapointed at the Edit mode...

[bluekinny]

how the hell can u be dissapointed with the edit mode? just cos theres 9 boots? were not playing dress your barbie to impress ken! its bloody football!

so this is what david beckhams done for football is it? all bout hair cuts and football boots nowadays!

[mauaus]

that also means less realistic user created kits

[Lil Peel]

that also means less realistic user created kits

which could also mean an inferior patched options file compared to PS2 version

[TheDude]

how the hell can u be dissapointed with the edit mode? just cos theres 9 boots? were not playing dress your barbie to impress ken! its bloody football!

so this is what david beckhams done for football is it? all bout hair cuts and football boots nowadays!

Whatever! :suspect:


that also means less realistic user created kits

Very True! :cry:


which could also mean an inferior patched options file compared to PS2 version

Also Very True, people can only work with what there given! :cry::cry:


This is hugely disappointing, boots make a big difference for me, as do kits.

I hate FIFA 08 as a game, but the kits make the game look very nice from a distance, PES 2008 will play far better but its about time it looked nice! :cry:

On the PC the game can be patched to look 100% official but without extensive editing options on the PS3 people who play with Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U or Arsenal allot, or any other premiership team infact are going to be hugely disappointed! :cry:

[Apollo]

Good update Uk.

So taking from this the final build will :

Be slower than the demo, more realistic :-D

Has a crappy edit mode :neutral:

360 version more cartoony/PS3 version more realistic, less colorfull.


I have to say i m dissapointed at the Edit mode...

Most multiplatform games look "washed out" in comparison, less colour but in a football game with the different kits and the grass textures, this can't be more realistic can it? Sounds like port from the Xbox 360 version. We need this confirmed, many titles that appear like this on the PS3 were actual ports of the Xbox 360 versions.

I'm disappointed with the Edit Mode. Why is it lesser? Other than the actual game play this is what sets Pro Evo apart from FIFA. It's what many were expecting last year on the Xbox 360 version but it wasn't there for some reason. Now Konami have been working on this game for 2 years, and there is hardly any Editing?

It's rather conflicting as there was a Stadia Editor/Builder tool from the screenshots we saw a few months ago. How they can incorporate such a tool but not include a full editing mode?

Why are Konami just not bothering anymore?

[Apollo]

I just saw the screenshots of my Arsenal team. With the ability to edit kits still in question, I have to admit this game is on my Rent list right now. :cry: It's just not what we expected. It seems like every month we're more disappointed

http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/10/arsenal21.jpg

[JarOfFlies]

I'm slightly worried about the edit mode. :(

As long as we can get option files for just the EPL, I don't mind.

[mauaus]

I just saw the screenshots of my Arsenal team. With the ability to edit kits still in question, I have to admit this game is on my Rent list right now. :cry: It's just not what we expected. It seems like every month we're more disappointed

http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/10/arsenal21.jpg

Dissapointed or not, good luck finding a better footie game... Im really happy about the gameplay, couldnt care less about kits and licenses, the community will come through

[schwan]

Played the PC Demo to death
have to admit it doesn't seem like an overly 'next-gen' game but the gameplay is brialliant as we expect from our friends at Konami :)

[Apollo]

Does anyone know if there will be weather effects in the game? E.g. snow, rain etc

[Nunalho]

how the hell can u be dissapointed with the edit mode? just cos theres 9 boots? were not playing dress your barbie to impress ken! its bloody football!

so this is what david beckhams done for football is it? all bout hair cuts and football boots nowadays!

So you are calling me gay?

You dont have to be abnoxious and you should respect other members, specially older ones.

Its not just the boots, it will have less shirt costomizations and whatnot.

The edit mode is very usefull to get all the kits and players right. I use it quite a lot, if you dont understand that please refrain your comments.

[Nunalho]

I just saw the screenshots of my Arsenal team. With the ability to edit kits still in question, I have to admit this game is on my Rent list right now. :cry: It's just not what we expected. It seems like every month we're more disappointed

http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/10/arsenal21.jpg


Thats a PC screen, that´s why it looks worse...you will have to edit the Arsenal kit though.

Why are you always bashing PES? If you are really dissapointed good luck finding a better footy game man.

And PES is not a Port from the 360...for whatever reason it has less color, but in my book in a footy game thats better, it makes it more realistic and not too cartoony like the guys in the blog say.

[calcal]

So you are calling me gay?

You dont have to be abnoxious and you should respect other members, specially older ones.

Its not just the boots, it will have less shirt costomizations and whatnot.

The edit mode is very usefull to get all the kits and players right. I use it quite a lot, if you dont understand that please refrain your comments.


Dont need to be pissed off by these ppl ... there is a reason he is a newbie ...

I just hope that we will get the demo tomorrow in the europe update

[playernb]

Dont need to be pissed off by these ppl ... there is a reason he is a newbie ...

I just hope that we will get the demo tomorrow in the europe update

You are right, but i still hope PS3 version is slightly different from the 360 version. :mrgreen:

[bluekinny]

hahh ur a 'newbie' too mate! and whats the reason iam a newbie? cos i only recently signed upto this thing:S

i wasnt calling anyone gay, and i wasnt talking to anyone pacificly just a generalisation from reading the comments on WENB. i just dont understand why people are disapointed with the edit mode wen all the news says is theres only 9 preset boots:S LIKE WITH EVERY YEAR!didnt anyone think that they can make there own!! there just the licened boots there talking bout!
i just think people are expecting far too much from the first pro evo on the ps3!

[UkHardcore]

Ps3 demo is out today.... argh not gonnae be able to play it til monday :(

[Nunalho]

Ps3 demo is out today.... argh not gonnae be able to play it til monday :(


I hope you r right, because i have a feeling that Sony wont give us the Demo.

Any confirmation that the EU store will get it?

[fiero911]

Can anyone please confirm whether the demo is out in the AU store, cos belive me its a lotta hassle moving the connection to eh ps3 from my pc and back. I dont have wifi for now, but will be getting one in the coming months.
does EU store mean AU store as well???

[designit123]

Can anyone please confirm whether the demo is out in the AU store, cos belive me its a lotta hassle moving the connection to eh ps3 from my pc and back. I dont have wifi for now, but will be getting one in the coming months.
does EU store mean AU store as well???

No confirmation yet mate.

We better get it though. This is bull**** waiting for it.

I have a feeling we won't get it though.

[stanlives]

Just get a EU and USA account set up... It literally took me 3 minutes to set up each account and it takes about 5 seconds to log out of one and log into another. And the USA PSN site has a whole lot more demos than Aussie....

If you use your aussie psn you will be waiting weeks till after it is released overseas....

and anyway its only a month or so till it comes out here... November 8th is the day i got told today when picking up madden... (i know its crap but i'm just going to use eb's 7 day return policy...). Awesome demo or crap demo or no demo = all of us are getting PES anyway... It would be nice but...

edit: I forgot to ask - is anyone going to the black beta thing next weds night in syd? apparently a close to final version of PES will be available there to play... if you don't know what i mean its probably too late to rsvp, but search myspace for black beta and add as a friend to rsvp... only the first 150 get in but...

[jankren]

Why can't PES acquire the same club licenses like FIFA?

Anyway, 'Death to FIFA 2008!'

[fiero911]

Confirmed.
I just checked the EU and the AU store, and its not there. When are gonna get that darn thing. Really pissin me off.

[majestified]

PSN updated at 6pm british time apparently, so check then

[zenkaipower]

PES demo is definitely coming today but it's too early, expect it in the late afternoon.

[Apollo]

Nunalho

I don't choose to bash the game, I'm just naturally critical over the things I'm interested in. Easily disappointed and easily joyous - I just rarely post to express that, which gives the impression I'm a hater lol. I will probably get this game but I feel we're being cheated.

[LittleB69]

Why can't PES acquire the same club licenses like FIFA?

Anyway, 'Death to FIFA 2008!'

Ehh because FIFA has the FIFA licens.. therby the name and PES does not!

[Lil Peel]

demo update


As you all know, the PES 2008 demo has been in Sony's hand for quite some time now. Yet there has been no verification as to whether it will be available to download on the PSN tomorrow. We have attempted to find out news from Konami however they are not sure what the status of the demo is at this moment in time.

We will be updating the blog in about 10 hours time once we get some clarification on this highly debated and anticipated arrival. Check back in a few hours people. The PSN updates at 6pm GMT every Thursday. Fingers crossed the demo will go live, we'll let you know as soon as we know!

from http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/ps3-pes-2008-demo-update.html

[The One!]

TBH, im not impressed with the game, ilove PES since 1 but i thought the edit mode would have been like ps2's or better, i also dont believe our version will be better than 360's(3x is almost impossible)

Every

[zenkaipower]

I also don't get all this fascination with edit mode?? Each his own I guess. Only thing that interest me is gameplay and new licences the rest can go to **** for all I care...

[majestified]

how about some of you stop judging the game until you have played the final version??

[FT9]

There is rumors that the demo will NOT be out the PS3 which is crappy.

Only time will tell.

[bluekinny]

i dont think there will be a demo on psn, wghat iam thiking it is may be in the next issue of OPM, whic is out 2 days after pro evo(?) i think it is and seems as they got the exclusive review, i think they mag have snagged the demo too!

[Lil Peel]

Euro store updated

NO Pro Evo 2008 demo

not bothering with the demo now - wait until game is out

[Fenster]

I don’t see why ppl are getting on Sony’s back about this!

From what I’ve been told the demo that was handed over to Microsoft and Sony is the Leipzig show playable demo, now for anyone that has seen it or played that demo can testify the ps3 version was no where near up to scratch, partly due to the ps3 version feeling so underwhelming and the 360 version looking slightly better.

So this begs the question, why would sony want to release a demo that doesn’t do the final game justice? the logical answer would be they wouldn't

On a side note, the latest build of the game was available to the press at Leipzig (this is the demo that SHOULD'VE been put on psn) as it did the PS3 version justice, it looked vastly improved compared to the show demo, visuals looked sharper and more realistic compared to the 360 but more importantly the gameplay, u knew you were playing pro evo!

[Nunalho]

That´s it...i am soo sick of this?! WTF SONY?

Why not releast the ****ing Demo already?! LIVE has it for 2 weeks! Might aswell dont release it now since the game is almost here.

I dont care about the Demo anymore....what a letdown, again.

Foockers.

[DaveNI1979]

That´s it...i am soo sick of this?! WTF SONY?

Why not releast the ****ing Demo already?! LIVE has it for 2 weeks! Might aswell dont release it now since the game is almost here.

I dont care about the Demo anymore....what a letdown, again.

Foockers.

I feel your pain, really pissed off myself. Thought for sure we'd get it today. There has to be some reason for these delays. 3 weeks will soon go in though. Im not getting my hopes up for anything from sony again.

[zenkaipower]

This is F up and strange at the same time. But Im certain that Live gets demos before PSN because of Live not being free. Money talks and I could see how MS pays developers some green stuff to get the demos before PSN. After all what's the point of Live if there users don't get some benefits? Imagine multiplat demo released on PSN before Live! lol

[Nunalho]

This is F up and strange at the same time. But Im certain that Live gets demos before PSN because of Live not being free. Money talks and I could see how MS pays developers some green stuff to get the demos before PSN. After all what's the point of Live if there users don't get some benefits? Imagine multiplat demo released on PSN before Live! lol


This is not the case since Konami made the demos available to MS and Sony at the same time.

[zenkaipower]

This is not the case since Konami made the demos available to MS and Sony at the same time.

I don't see why would Sony hold out demo of PES? because it's not good? 360 version is not shining star either... it's just the demo, if it have some issues we PES fans would dismiss them and just say that final version will be better. Look at HS demo. It have issues too but did it stopped people from buying game? No it didn't and I don't think PES demo would too.
Why did skate demo come 1 week before PSN on Live? They just happened to scrap demo for PSN 1 week after Live?? Come on... Some deal is definitely up between MS and developers.

[stanlives]

Argh who needs a demo anyway... It'll only result in everyone complaining about a not up to scratch demo...

[acmtalk]

hehe That's what we get for a "free" service.

[Dante18]

no demo in XBL either....(asia region)

[Dickie]

After the update last week and the demo wasn't presented, I was really dissappointed but there was a light at the end of the tunnel and that was Fifa 08.

I'm a massive PES fan but this game plays just as good and I know this will keep me entertained until PES 2008 hits the shelves.

I don't understand why they can only update on a Thursday? Seems lame to me, should update whenever they have something new, keep people searching through the store everytime they switch on their PS3.

Xbox live has been running for a while now so they are running smooth, it will be the same for PSN, give them time and they will sort it.

PES for life!

[gatsu999]

hehe That's what we get for a "free" service.

correct if they can not manage to get us a good free service , then don't do it
1 year after the launch sony make mistake after mistake and this really begin to piss me off
come on sony what the **** are doing , stand up

[gatsu999]

ok , some news in this french article
for who doesn't understand the language here is the main information:
it appear that the pes version of Leipzig is far from representing the final product
the remainder of the article , speaks on how some reviewer wanted to be faster than everyone by reviewing this non-testable version of the game , what of course piss off konami

http://www.inpactvirtuel.com/news/20395-pes-Pro-Evolution-Soccer-Magazines.htm

maybe this is why we are not getting the demo yet , knowing that playstation public is more exigent with licence like pes

[Nunalho]

ok , some news in this french article
for who doesn't understand the language here is the main information:
it appear that the pes version of Leipzig is far from representing the final product
the remainder of the article , speaks on how some reviewer wanted to be faster than everyone by reviewing this non-testable version of the game , what of course piss off konami

http://www.inpactvirtuel.com/news/20395-pes-Pro-Evolution-Soccer-Magazines.htm

maybe this is why we are not getting the demo yet , knowing that playstation public is more exigent with licence like pes


We know this for a long time now. :suspect:

[moots]

ok , some news in this french article
for who doesn't understand the language here is the main information:
it appear that the pes version of Leipzig is far from representing the final product
the remainder of the article , speaks on how some reviewer wanted to be faster than everyone by reviewing this non-testable version of the game , what of course piss off konami

http://www.inpactvirtuel.com/news/20395-pes-Pro-Evolution-Soccer-Magazines.htm

maybe this is why we are not getting the demo yet , knowing that playstation public is more exigent with licence like pes

Yeah, but isn't the game coming out in Europe in 20 days? Doesnt that means that the game is ready? They still fixing issues, 20 days before launch?

[mauaus]

Hey this is in no way a PS3 demo but at least the time expander for the PC demo is out :) just played a 20 min match Argentina - Spain... What a Great Game it was :) I won 4-1 on the toughest difficulty and i stole a penalty kick too (which i missed) :)

[xiv_R_A_I_D_E_R_]

i haven't read the recently posted stuff but let me guess this is what's been posted

1.this is the reason Live has a monthly fees
2.im sorry to say this but psn s.u.c.k.s
3. these things happen during the development period just give them time we'll get the demo soon enough
4.this is an outrage im selling my ps3 for a xbox 360

[mauaus]

i haven't read the recently posted stuff but let me guess this is what's been posted

1.this is the reason Live has a monthly fees
2.im sorry to say this but psn s.u.c.k.s
3. these things happen during the development period just give them time we'll get the demo soon enough
4.this is an outrage im selling my ps3 for a xbox 360

PSN doesnt suck, the way i see it its picked up a lot, sony is getting good content every week, so what if it stumbles sometimes. Im sorry to say this but because we think we should get a demo for PES this week and we speculate to make sure we get it, it doesnt mean sony has to put up with it...

[TheSteeeeels]

4.this is an outrage im selling my ps3 for a xbox 360

Good. Anyone stupid enough to even think about trading their PS3 for an Xbox because of a demo coming late doesn't deserve a PS3.

Kindly get out of this thread. Now.

[xiv_R_A_I_D_E_R_]

i think some of you guys misunderstood my post those weren't my opinions those were some of the opinions i thought some of you guys had posted

now on to my question will a euro copy work on on my u.s ps3 i don't want to wait until it releases here in january or february judging by different tv standards & it might have some online issues like some games do

[SnakeDevil]

i think some of you guys misunderstood my post those weren't my opinions those were some of the opinions i thought some of you guys had posted

now on to my question will a euro copy work on on my u.s ps3 i don't want to wait until it releases here in january or february judging by different tv standards & it might have some online issues like some games do

The game will work on your PS3 only if you have a HDTV or a TV capable of displaying a PAL signal .I'm fairly sure the online will work, but you will encounter quite a bit of lag.

[xiv_R_A_I_D_E_R_]

The game will work on your PS3 only if you have a HDTV or a TV capable of displaying a PAL signal .I'm fairly sure the online will work, but you will encounter quite a bit of lag.

about online play will it have world wide servers or region specific servers because if it has region specific servers its going to s.u.c.k. being a u.s player theirs probably only going to be like 50 players at the most LOL

[Apollo]

I'm a little surprised that much of the game is still shrouded in mystery, such as the features it will have, the extensiveness of the Master League, a review of the Edit Mode, and especially the Online features.

[fiero911]

I'm with u Apollo, there is soo less info on the game released. But i guess Konami would suddenly wanna release all the info so that the game has even more hype. But i'd disagree
I hope the time and trouble for the game is well worth it, cos all eyes are on Konami now to deliver the 'new'-gen version.
jn **** u sony and konami for not giving us the demo already.

[calcal]

about online play will it have world wide servers or region specific servers because if it has region specific servers its going to s.u.c.k. being a u.s player theirs probably only going to be like 50 players at the most LOL


I know, this is something that I am worrying about !! I am living in U.S., owning a Jap version PS3, now I am trying to get the Eur version of PES... i am definitely not buying the U.S version because of the quote above, probably only 50 ppl online only... lol...

[adamevex]

Some good news and soem bad news. Depending on what you want and what you expect. I'm just glad the gameplay is still intact as a simulation. Plus i'm not into the whole editing boots so that doesn't concern me.





W.E.N.B. : PES 2008 Impressions (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/wenb-on-location.html)



Just got back from a few fun days at a trade event in Birmingham, and boy have I got a lot to talk about! After taking in the delights on offer (Call of Duty 4, Mario Galaxy, Assassins Creed etc.), I was treated to an extremely up-to-date code of PES 2008!


This was mainly thanks to both Michael Rotchell and Gareth Evans, senior members of the Konami sales team. Not an event where they were supposed to be showing off a near final version, but were kind enough to let me have a look for the benefit of the blog.


I was like a kid in a candy store when Michael booted up the game on a PS3, connected to a nice 40inch Sharpe TV. After seeing him (and me for a bit) getting beaten by Germany playing as England, I took the opportunity to take a look through the menu's and familiarise myself with the new look. My main interest, like many viewers, was to check out the editing functions available this year. Unfortunately it wasn't what it was lived up to be, editing wasn't a step up from the current gen options. Sure there's the ability to scan your own face in and pop in logo's & sponsors of your favourite unlicensed teams, but the basic functionality just wasn't there.


First off the 9 boots that we've seen are all whats on offer. Along with that the preset boots can't be edited. In PE6 on the PS2 you could at least create boots that resembled other brands, not this year on next gen I'm afraid. Then when checking through kit editing options I realised that the amount of preset designs to choose from have dramatically been decreased. Lets hope the new sponsor/logo import feature makes up for this.


Feeling a little bemused by the editing, or lack of, I started a match. Choosing the mighty Milan vs the not so mighty Tottenham, I was greeted with a new option allowing you to change the grass patterns on the stadiums. As previously rumoured, there is absolutely no option to edit stadiums any further than the design of the playing surface. Ranging from diamond, squares and circles shapes, there were around 5 different looks you could create to the 15 stadiums on offer. Yes you read right, just 15 stadiums!


After having a mixed first 5 mins with the game I was ready to kick off. Choosing 3 guys to always go up for corners (Nesta, Inzaghi and Ronaldo should do it) the match started. Quickly popping the game into wide cam I was treated to one of the best experiences I've had with a Pro Evo game...EVER. Gone was the frustration regarding the underwhelming front end, the gameplay is where its at and PES 2008 has it in abundance.


The first thing to hit me was the slow pace. It's been a while since playing an advanced version in Leipzig, so it was much clearer for me compare the two versions. All I can say is that it's very close to the speed of Fifa 08. The X360 version was a little quicker and a little brighter in its colours, but it was pretty much the same. Gone were the players zipping around at an alarming pace in the demo, everything seemed more considered and lifelike. It was great to be passing the ball about, creating some beautiful moves and scoring some special (and meaningful) goals. I even managed to dive and grab a penalty! At first I also found it difficult to score, the 'keepers are certainly miles better than the demo. They are fantastic on 1-on-1 situations, closing down the angles very quickly.


The feeling of playing PES was there. Whether that's a good thing or bad remains to be seen with some of the fans, as perhaps its a sign of the series not really moving on. It certainly feels familiar. In my eyes though that's a good thing, it was a pleasure to play, and left me with the feeling that I'd just played a game that I'll be playing for many months to come.


The build that I played was around 3 weeks old, and had some issues that I was assured will be fixed in the final versions. I noticed slowdown on replays and corners, as well as some loss of detail when in wide cam - the boots all went to black, and you couldn't even see the rain!


Overall though it was a great experience, I certainly feel honoured to have had time with the game. It's going to be keeping many people occupied when its hits on the 26TH October! Thanks again to Gareth and Michael for letting me have a bash, make sure you keep in touch guys!


More on the final version in the coming weeks, we should have them very soon.


Yours,

Adam





Click here for link. (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/wenb-on-location.html)

[JarOfFlies]

Some good news and soem bad news. Depending on what you want and what you expect. I'm just glad the gameplay is still intact as a simulation. Plus i'm not into the whole editing boots so that doesn't concern me.





Click here for link. (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/wenb-on-location.html)

Glad we aren't getting the demo, because it sounds like it's nothing like the final build.

[Nunalho]

One more preview:



Just three weeks to go. Still, if you can't wait that long for a taste of the full game, fear not, as we've just returned from a four-hour playtest of the latest (approx 90% complete) PS3 code. We did try the 360 code, but bafflingly, the shoot and pass controls insisted on defaulting to the trigger buttons, making any kind of dissection virtually impossible. So without further delay, let's get to it...
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If you've had a chance to check out the demo, you'll already know roughly what to expect from the general pacing. It's still quick but there also appears to be a greater emphasis on player skill when it comes to pulling off tricky passes and through balls. PES2008 seems to possess an ever so slightly more tactical edge than its predecessor, while never compromising on the excitement levels. FIFA 08 may have taken the realism route this year, but Konami's effort has kept one foot firmly placed on both sides of the fence, with a slight bias towards arcade action.

Example: Players were far more flexible and lithe, and were able to flick the ball off their chests then turn with greater fluidity than in PES6, making for more flowing matches. Conversely (and perhaps this will be tweaked in the final version) star players such as Ronaldinho ran like they were on rails, enabling us to smoothly pull off dribbles that made Maradona's surge against England in ‘86 look like an everyday occurrence. If you're more fond of dribbling than a toddler with an over active saliva gland, you're likely to be in seventh heaven if Konami don't make any last minute alterations, though some of you will no doubt be spitting bile at just how easy it can be to bamboozle opposition defences with more skilful players.

This next one you're either going to love or hate. Diving. Yes, after much cogitation Konami has finally decided to include the dirtiest trick in the book (bribing referees aside) though it struck us as strange that the game was bereft of an option to turn this feature off. Hopefully, Konami will have had the foresight to put this into the final game and help prevent the usual online pissing contests (between die-hard fans with diametrically opposed views) that generally arise from development decisions such as these. The question here is, does it work? Well, kind of. While it was fun to take the odd opportunistic tumble, the constant stream of yellow cards was a pretty sobering experience. In fact, we didn't have a single decision go our way and not once did we see the AI try to use this tactic. What's more - and here's hoping this is sorted before release - we were even yellow carded after taking a dive when there wasn't an opposition player within a ten-meter radius. Ludicrous!

http://www.eurogamer.net/img/ArticlePage/zoom_butt.gif (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES1.jpg.jpg)http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/a_med_PES1.jpg.jpg (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES1.jpg.jpg) The Master League has received a revamp this year.


While we're on the subject of cards, refs still seemed a little too keen to dish out the yellow and reds for slightly mistimed slide tackles, which when timed correctly, often resulted in the opposition just getting the ball straight back anyway.

Let's move onto ball physics, which admittedly, is always a highly subjective topic. This build saw a decent improvement over last season's pinging pig's bladder and there was a far greater sense of weight to how the ball moved. Slow passes bobbled as they skimmed over the grass, while thunderous shots looked as though they'd been fired out of a cannon. Bounces were also slightly more muted (no bad thing), resulting in free flowing games containing fewer farcical pinball incidents.

These refined ball physics also complemented the revamped passing and shooting controls. This year it seems we're back to having more control over pass and shot power, while through balls are far tougher to pull off. However, when we did manage to thread the eye of the needle, the teeth grindingly annoying defender teleportation feature (whereby the last defender would miraculously outpace you once you were through on goal) from last year's version didn't seem nearly as evident here.

http://www.eurogamer.net/img/ArticlePage/zoom_butt.gif (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES2.jpg.jpg)http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/a_med_PES2.jpg.jpg (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES2.jpg.jpg) Games are still quick and action packed.


Keepers also looked more realistic, moving with feline flexibility to palm away shots and get down low to push away stinging drives. They also seemed to react later when unsighted before flying into an Oliver Khan-like rage and bellowing at their defenders. However, there were some problems here, too. Perhaps it was just a balancing issue, but keepers tended to spill the ball rather too easily and palm power shots directly into the path of onrushing attackers, a flaw that was most evident (and exploitable) when playing in multiplayer.

Clearer in-game player fatigue, a revised quick freekick option (whereby you can now watch the player grab the ball if it's nearby and quickly resume play), increased crossing accuracy when you make the player look up, more player animations to refereeing decisions, beefier sound effects and some great player likenesses, including a double chin on Ronaldo that practically trails on the ground (though as ever, other well known players were barely recognisable) all proved excellent touches, though we have to admit to really disliking the new behind the keeper angle when facing penalties, which just felt, well, a bit crap really.

Also new this year is a revamped Master League featuring bolstered player interaction features (admittedly we only had a chance to take a quick look at this and will reserve any judgement till the finished version) and a Track Record section that charts achievements and sets specific goals e.g. win ten penalty shootouts or score a 35-meter goal. Track Record will also keep a record of how many games you win, lose and draw, and even provide you with a set of grades for your tackling, passing, and attacking abilities.

http://www.eurogamer.net/img/ArticlePage/zoom_butt.gif (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES3.jpg.jpg)http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/a_med_PES3.jpg.jpg (http://www.eurogamer.net/view_screenshot.php?image=assets/articles//a/8/4/8/0/1/PES3.jpg.jpg) You'll either love or hate the new dive feature.

As you can probably see from the screenshots and given that many of you will have played the demo, you'll be well aware that PES2008 is unlikely to win any awards in the next-gen visual stakes, especially when compared to FIFA 08's highly buffed graphics. Overall, PES2008's visual changes appeared to be more incremental than revolutionary, ranging from the more animated but still basic-looking crowds to the contemporary yet hardly eye-popping menus. Perhaps the only serious gripe was the way that players sometimes looked like they were pulling off a pair of pigs with their fists while running. Otherwise, the graphics and animations were generally solid.

While Pro Evo 2008 is unlikely to be a revolutionary leap forward for the series, it certainly looks to be an improvement over last year's version, tackling several key issues and adding some great new tweaks and features. It's too early to make concrete predictions right now, as the version we played was still around 10% off completion, but things are certainly looking positive, despite the odd concern. Just three weeks to go...

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=84801

[TheSteeeeels]

i think some of you guys misunderstood my post those weren't my opinions those were some of the opinions i thought some of you guys had posted

Yes, I didn't even read the part of where you said that. My fault. Apoligies.

[mauaus]

One more preview:



http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=84801

Good read! thanx as always Nunalho... the wait continues

Im gonna preorder de game when i play the PS3 demo and not because im not gonna buy it if im dissapointed but because im gonna buy 2 copies if my cousins SDTV plays the demo. We are in Central America btw

[Nunalho]

Good read! thanx as always Nunalho... the wait continues

Im gonna preorder de game when i play the PS3 demo and not because im not gonna buy it if im dissapointed but because im gonna buy 2 copies if my cousins SDTV plays the demo. We are in Central America btw


I want to play the PS3 demo too, but rest assured that the final build is not the same as the demo.

[Little_Donkey]

you can download 2 videos from the ps3 version.
Well i played the xbox360 version, I heard many times that the ps3 would be superior but after seeing these videos, I'm kinda dissapointed.
Many slowdowns in replays and closeups. And PIXELATED crowd???


http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-pes-2008-cote-d-ivoire-vs-cameroun-546905.html

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-pes-2008-fc-barcelone-vs-olympique-de-marseille-738368.html

[adamevex]

you can download 2 videos from the ps3 version.
Well i played the xbox360 version, I heard many times that the ps3 would be superior but after seeing these videos, I'm kinda dissapointed.
Many slowdowns in replays and closeups. And PIXELATED crowd???


http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-pes-2008-cote-d-ivoire-vs-cameroun-546905.html

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-pes-2008-fc-barcelone-vs-olympique-de-marseille-738368.html

If you read the preview i put up you'll see wheer the Konami reps said these would be taken care of in the final stretch of coding.

[TheDude]

I just played a penalty shoot out on the PC demo! Dayuum it sucked! Did they put any effort into this game?

The ball still goes straight rather than curling like in freekicks, theres no chip option and the view behind the keeper is pathetic!

[UkHardcore]

If PES 2008 on the PS3 is as slow as Fifa 08 then i'l defo be getting the 360 version.... Fifa is waaaaaaay to slow as you's will know if you've played it... it's like playing the game full of valium.

It is great to hear that it's been improved alot since the demo though, keepers sound great now and that really was my main concern.

Roll on the 26th.... happy dayz

[PS3World]

Careful what you say dude, I got 7 days ban for saying the same thing.

[SnakeDevil]

I just played a penalty shoot out on the PC demo! Dayuum it sucked! Did they put any effort into this game?

The ball still goes straight rather than curling like in freekicks, theres no chip option and the view behind the keeper is pathetic!


Careful what you say dude, I got 7 days ban for saying the same thing.

Not exactly, I don't see anything wrong with his post, yeah he criticised the game but he did elaborate and explain what exactly he didn't like so he's done nothing wrong.

[PS3World]

Not exactly, I don't see anything wrong with his post, yeah he criticised the game but he did elaborate and explain what exactly he didn't like so he's done nothing wrong.

Thats what I thought before I got the 7 day ban. I was expressing my huge disappointment in Sony for not releasing the demo, and before I knew it I got the 7 day ban for 'flamebaiting'.

So criticizing PS3 or Sony is not allowed in here?

For all I know I could get warning or ban for posting the above.

[stanlives]

For those of you in Sydney there is still the chance to play the full version of the game next wednesday night. I RSVP'd a little while ago and they have no more rsvps but if you are prepared to turn up early you should still get in.... Free drinks, food, playing the full version of pes in a nightclub.... they are giving away ps3s - but i want them to give away the game...

cheers

http://au.ign.com/articles/825/825203p1.html

Black Beta Update!
RSVPs are closed, but you can still get into our Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 night!
by The Black Beta Team, IGN AU
Australia, October 5, 2007 - "Seems we're not the only folks who like the idea of free games, free drinks and free tunes. The response to our Black Beta event, where we'll be debuting the full version of Pro Evolution Soccer 2008, has been overwhelming. As a result, we've had to close the RSVP system.

However, you can still get in!

The first 100 people to show up to the event on the night will also be invited in. You'll still need to be over 18 (with valid photo ID) and have a print out of your MySpace profile to get in. As the event kicks off at 7:30pm, October 10, we recommend you get there early to secure your spot at Australia's first ever adult gaming event.




Did we mention we've got a stack of prizes to give away, including several PS3s from Sony Computer Entertainment Australia? Yep, this is going to be rather tasty party, so head over to www.myspace.com/blackbetaau and sign up as a friend. We'll be sending all Black Beta friends the address of the party on Monday the 8th of October."

See you there!

The Black Beta Team"

[PS3World]

Off-topic

Congratulation everyone, we have reached 100 pages!

[Nunalho]

Off-topic

Congratulation everyone, we have reached 100 pages!


Yup, incredible...it comes a long way. Who ever thought a footy thread would be this long?! In fact this has to be one of the biggest threads around, if not the biggest game related.

Thanks for all the help guys! :D

[JOHN DOE]

This game has always been the best football game ever on the PS life I try FIFA when it hits the stores but never stick with it for more than a month but this game I never get sick of it

THIS GAME ROCK & I CANT'T WAIT TO SEE HOW IT'S GONNA BE LIKE ON PS3

[PS3World]

Yup, incredible...it comes a long way. Who ever thought a footy thread would be this long?! In fact this has to be one of the biggest threads around, if not the biggest game related.

Thanks for all the help guys! :D

Not to mention we also had anther 12 page PES thread. signs how big and important this game is.

GTA 4 hype thread is still the biggest though.

[BonafideZulu]

Eh... my mixed views of FIFA 08 have gotten the better of me; I ain't buying it. The simplest things [they get wrong] just bother the hell out of me.

So I guess I might import the game, because I sure as hell ain't waiting til Spring! :P

By the way, what is the best way (cheapest) of importing the UK/EU version to the US?

[SnakeDevil]

Eh... my mixed views of FIFA 08 have gotten the better of me; I ain't buying it. The simplest things [they get wrong] just bother the hell out of me.

So I guess I might import the game, because I sure as hell ain't waiting til Spring! :P

By the way, what is the best way (cheapest) of importing the UK/EU version to the US?

Heres a FAQ the WENB team compiled for importers:


Importing PES 2008 & WE 2008 FAQ's (http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/09/importing-pes-2008-we-2008-faqs.html)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_Qp7Fv2WWaew/RvGJSK68rXI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/ffSl9TrbuTo/s200/original.jpeg (http://bp3.blogger.com/_Qp7Fv2WWaew/RvGJSK68rXI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/ffSl9TrbuTo/s1600-h/original.jpeg)Since today's announcement that North America would not see the release of our beloved game until Spring '08 most gamers based in North America are obviously looking to import the game. I will start off by clearing up some confusion following the announcement of the Japanese release before going into details.


Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (PS3 & Xbox 360)
Released Europe 25th October 2007

Winning Eleven 2008 (PS3 & Xbox 360)
Released Japan 22nd November 2007

Both games will pretty much be the same, except for regional differences such as Languages (PES 2008 - Multilingual, WE 2008 - Japanese only), Commentary etc. Now the big question, can I import this game and play it on my console? Well it depends on what console you own. It does get very complicated so read carefully and if you have any problems then contact a member of the team for advice.

Xbox 360 Owners - FORGET ABOUT IT:
Due to the strict regional coding enforced by Microsoft you won't be able to play a game from outside your region e.g. North American fans can't import the European or Japanese version to play on their US Xbox 360.

Playstation 3 Owners:
Playstation 3 owners on the other hand are a much luckier. If you are a PS3 owner running your PS3 on an HDTV (High Definition - 720p, 1080i or 1080p) then you can import both European and/or Japanese versions to play on your console regardless of what region your console is from as HDTV signal worldwide follow a single standard known as ATSC.

If you are running your PS3 on an SDTV (Standard Definition - 480i or 480p) then it gets more complicated due to the whole NTSC vs. PAL issue. If your SDTV is Multisystem i.e. able to show both NTSC and PAL signals then you are ok to import the game and play it. There are some instances though where the game still won't run even though you are using a Multiregion TV. However, if your TV only works on one standard i.e. NTSC (for North American fans) then you won't be able to import and play the game as your SDTV won't be able to display the signal coming from your PS3.

My advice for PS3 owners; make sure you are playing your PS3 on an HDTV to avoid all small issues that can arise from regional differences.

UPDATE: You don't have to have an HDTV to play this game unless you are playing it on a console from a different region e.g. PES 2008 (European Import) on a US PS3 in the USA.

So now you ask, how do I get a hold of a European or Japanese version of the game? Simple! We have compiled a list of Importers where you can Preorder/Order the game online for delivery to your doorstep. Most of these deliver worldwide, but all of them deliver to North America.


To Preorder/Order PES 2008 (European Version):
ShopTo.net - http://www.shopto.net/
It's A Game Thing - http://www.itsagamething.co.uk/
ChoicesUK - http://www.choicesuk.com/
SendIT - http://www.sendit.com/

Its up to you to find the cheapest!

[zenkaipower]

How come I can play demo from US store on SD TV?

[BonafideZulu]

How come I can play demo from US store on SD TV?

Eh? There is no PES demo for PS3 out yet...

Anyway, anyone know how much it would be to ship this game from the UK to the US?

Edit: Just got done with a game of PES6, haven't played it since FIFA 08 demo was released. It's amazing how PES runs circles around FIFA08...

[zenkaipower]

Eh? There is no PES demo for PS3 out yet...

Anyway, anyone know how much it would be to ship this game from the UK to the US?

Edit: Just got done with a game of PES6, haven't played it since FIFA 08 demo was released. It's amazing how PES runs circles around FIFA08...

:suspect: Im not talking about PES demo:sleep: Im replying to the guy post about importing PES and how you cant play ntsc version on PAL SD if that TV doesn't support both PAL and ntsc. My TV doesn't but I still can play demos from US store on my TV.
EDIT: and not just demos but full PSN games as well.

[slash2k01]

Is it true that certain features such as community mode will only be available on the ps2 version?

[powwow]

hi guys, not sure if this is a stupid question or not, but i have a US PS3 and live in the UK. Will i have any compatibilty probs when playing say the PAL version online here in the UK? Im only saying this as i had a JAP version of Motorstom and couldn't play it online in the UK...any help much appreciated!

[Apollo]

Traded in FIFA and pre-ordered Pro Evo early this afternoon. Felt good about it too. FIFA was utterly poor in my opinion. I didn't enjoy a single minute of it Im afraid

[JarOfFlies]

Traded in FIFA and pre-ordered Pro Evo early this afternoon. Felt good about it too. FIFA was utterly poor in my opinion. I didn't enjoy a single minute of it Im afraid

Felt the same, tbh.

I'm trading in my fifa though when I pick up Pro.

[SnakeDevil]

hi guys, not sure if this is a stupid question or not, but i have a US PS3 and live in the UK. Will i have any compatibilty probs when playing say the PAL version online here in the UK? Im only saying this as i had a JAP version of Motorstom and couldn't play it online in the UK...any help much appreciated!

I'm fairly sure you can play PES online, the only reason you couldn't play MotorStorm online was because the Japanese version didn't include online play.

[sarlndr]

Traded in FIFA and pre-ordered Pro Evo early this afternoon. Felt good about it too. FIFA was utterly poor in my opinion. I didn't enjoy a single minute of it Im afraid

How much did you get for it? I'm so close to trading my copy in as well.

[sarlndr]

hi guys, not sure if this is a stupid question or not, but i have a US PS3 and live in the UK. Will i have any compatibilty probs when playing say the PAL version online here in the UK? Im only saying this as i had a JAP version of Motorstom and couldn't play it online in the UK...any help much appreciated!

I also have a US PS3 and live in the UK. I've been playing the PAL version of FIFA 08 just fine online since it's release. I also have a multi-system HDTV* also and that helps out a lot.

*see SnakeDevil post on importing games.

[Nunalho]

New LONG Sebass Interview:

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

It seems Sebass wont let go the PS2 versions that soon....this could be bad for the current gen version in the future.

[PS3World]

New LONG Sebass Interview:

http://www.winningelevenblog.com/

It seems Sebass wont let go the PS2 versions that soon....this could be bad for the current gen version in the future.

And can you blame him? with 130millions owners around the world, its the ps2 where they will be making big money.

[Dirty Rotten]

hey Nunalho,
how about adding a section to the first post with a list of PES players so that we can organise a tournament or league? Or just friendly matches...
Then maybe the mods will stick this thread.
Is anyone else up for that idea?