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ylvis
06-22-2007, 03:26
Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD

1. NDS - 118,684 | 117,228 | 3,650,120 | 17,655,799
2. WII - 65,521 | 64,529 | 1,815,351 | 2,734,994
3. PSP - 33,359 | 24,711 | 1,011,858 | 5,543,987
4. PS2 - 11,974 | 11,097 | 392,095 | 20,546,954
5. PS3 - 9,481 | 8,776 | 471,436 | 928,994
6. 360 - 7,583 | 2,533 | 112,060 | 376,762
7. GBA - 867 | 799 | 39,818 | 15,337,897
8. NGC - 223 | 167 | 8,226 | 4,177,694

Quite dissapointing that Sigma couldn't move any PS3 hardware.

01./02. [NDS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ag3j/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 63,439 / 220,810
02./00. [360] Trusty Bell ~Chopin's Dream~ (http://namco-ch.net/trusty_bell/index.php) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/)) - 49,334 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] Ninja Gaiden Sigma (http://www.ninjagaiden.jp/) (Tecmo (http://www.tecmo.co.jp/)) - 46,307 / NEW
04./05. [WII] Wii Sports (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rspj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 34,223 / 1,721,611
05./08. [NDS] More Brain Age (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/anmj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 24,901 / 4,374,525
06./09. [WII] Wii Play (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rhaj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 22,161 / 1,399,060
07./10. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/a2dj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 19,297 / 4,539,176
08./06. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ao2j/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 16,879 / 156,867
09./12. [NDS] More English Training (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/anhj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 15,855 / 288,570
10./15. [NDS] Brain Age (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/andj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/)) - 15,405 / 3,467,764

11./17. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (http://www.layton.jp/) (Level 5 (http://www.level5.co.jp/))
12./01. [PS2] Hisshou Pa*****o/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (http://www.d3p.co.jp/creva_kiseki/) (D3 Publisher (http://www.d3p.co.jp/))
13./13. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/amcj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
14./00. [PS3] Call of Duty 3 (http://www.spike.co.jp/cod3/) (Spike (http://www.spike.co.jp/))
15./14. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (http://momotetsu.com/momo_ds/) (Hudson (http://www.hudson.co.jp/gamenavi/))
16./20. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/admj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
17./19. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/aywj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
18./18. [NDS] English Training (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/angj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
19./21. [WII] Super Paper Mario (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/r8pj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
20./29. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ajyj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
21./23. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (http://www.kankends.jp/) (IE Institute (http://www.iek.co.jp/))
22./03. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/psp_dbz02/) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/))
23./04. [PSP] Final Fantasy II (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff20th/) (Square-Enix (http://www.square-enix.com/jp/))
24./22. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/fft/) (Square-Enix (http://www.square-enix.com/jp/))
25./26. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rywj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
26./27. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (http://www.capcom.co.jp/saiban4/) (Capcom (http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/))
27./28. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (http://www.bandaigames.channel.or.jp/list/ds_kekkaishi/) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/))
28./07. [WII] Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace (http://www.bokumono.com/series/yasuragi/) (Marvelous Interactive (http://www.mmv.co.jp/game/))
29./16. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/a2kj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
30./33. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/adpj/) (Pokemon (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/))
31./11. [WII] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (http://www.capcom.co.jp/wii_bio4/) (Capcom (http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/))
32./31. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (http://www.capcom.co.jp/monsterhunter/P2nd/) (Capcom (http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/))
33./39. [NDS] Kanji Test (http://www.rocketcompany.co.jp/kanken/) (Rocket Co. (http://www.rocketcompany.co.jp/))
34./37. [NDS] Pokémon Pearl (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/adpj/) (Pokemon (http://www.pokemon.co.jp/))
35./35. [NDS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff12rw/) (Square-Enix (http://www.square-enix.com/jp/))
36./32. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/amqj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
37./00. [NDS] Middle School English Vocabulary Target 1800 DS (IE Institute (http://www.iek.co.jp/))
38./47. [NDS] Big Brain Academy (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ayaj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
39./38. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (http://www.dqm-j.com/index.php) (Square-Enix (http://www.square-enix.com/jp/))
40./00. [360] Dead Rising (http://www3.capcom.co.jp/deadrising/main.html) (Capcom (http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/))
41./30. [NDS] Detailed World History B Total Training (http://namco-ch.net/ds_yamakawa/index.php) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/))
42./41. [NDS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (http://namco-ch.net/mojipittan_nds/index.php) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/))
43./24. [NDS] Detailed Japanese History B Total Training (http://namco-ch.net/ds_yamakawa/index.php) (Bandai-Namco (http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/))
44./00. [WII] Negima!? Neo Pactio Fight!! (http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/wii/negima/) (Marvelous Interactive (http://www.mmv.co.jp/game/))
45./36. [PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 (http://www.jp.playstation.com/scej/title/bleach/heat4/) (Sony (http://www.scei.co.jp/))
46./42. [NDS] Tetris DS (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/atrj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
47./44. [NDS] Suujin Taisen (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/afhj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
48./00. [NDS] Panel de Pon DS (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/a8nj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))
49./00. [NDS] Daito Giken Official Pachislo Simulator DS: Ledendary Treasure; Osu! Banchou; Yoshimune (http://www.paon.co.jp/ds/) (Paon (http://www.paon.co.jp/))
50./00. [NDS] Cooking Navi (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/a4vj/) (Nintendo (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/))


NDS - 33
WII - 7
PSP - 5
PS3 - 2
360 - 2
PS2 - 1

Source: GAF

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 03:27
That's actually kind of sad. I would've thought PS3 could get over 10k again, at least for one week.

Alti
06-22-2007, 03:32
DAMN! 360 sales jumped 5k? Wow... there's some good marketing sudden;y out... hmmm... wow, the ps3 is newish, and it should be selling maybe half of what the wii is. The 360 is selling not so far from the ps3... that IS kinda sad.

ShinMaruku
06-22-2007, 03:38
That 5k jump was all the people waiting for Trusty Bell. You should know that.

Diresu
06-22-2007, 03:38
^Its because of Trusty Bell, nothing more nothing less.

NovemberMike
06-22-2007, 03:39
Interesting that Trusty Bell is outselling Sigma... Even though the 360 has less hardware there.

illusionstj
06-22-2007, 03:39
DAMN! 360 sales jumped 5k? Wow... there's some good marketing sudden;y out... hmmm... wow, the ps3 is newish, and it should be selling maybe half of what the wii is. The 360 is selling not so far from the ps3... that IS kinda sad.

It probably has to do with the game Trusty Bell. Even I was thinking of getting another 360 for that and 2 other games. That is, when the hardware problems are fixed.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 03:41
This is not about the 360's sales jumping. We ALL do know it's about Trusty Bell for them and in a relatively short time it'll probably die back down again (It might take a few weeks or it could be next week, we'll see).

With that said, the fact that NGS with all the hype it's been getting here can't seem to move a piece of hardware to any major degree should be exceedingly alarming.

roxormyboxors
06-22-2007, 03:42
I remember back in january Sony said they had shipped 1 million PS3 consoles in japan. 6 months later and they still have not sold all of them. :|

ylvis
06-22-2007, 03:42
^Its because of Trusty Bell, nothing more nothing less.

Yeah, of course, and next week the 360 will be down again to the usual 2-3k.

Anyway, first day sales should be up in some hours. So should be interesting with at least FolkSoul and Itadaki Street for the DS.

Will FolkSoul move any PS3s? I dunno, Sigma wasn't a good sign. + It's going to be overshadowed by two new DS colors + Zelda + Itadaki Street.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 03:43
Hmm ok Gundam jump sales up for the Ps3 by 20,000, I woner what Hotshots Gold will od? The game is more populer, and the stores had 300,000 preorders.and it did push some Hardware, it was lower for some weeks.I just notice the PS3 is alomst at 1 million in Japan

TGO
06-22-2007, 03:44
Okay who didn't buy Sigma? :suspect:
that actually means that not even less then half of the Playstation 3's userbase in japan brought Sigma :|
edit: who messed up my icons :mad:

LordNoob
06-22-2007, 03:46
The amount that the DS manages to sell week in and week out doesn't make sense. The games do not justify it at all.

And BTW you could stretch it say nearly an 1/8th of PS3 owners in Japan bought Sigma.

Hussaro
06-22-2007, 03:46
TB was had a bundle, thats why sales went up.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 03:49
The amount that the DS manages to sell week in and week out doesn't make sense. The games do not justify it at all.

And BTW you could stretch it say nearly an 1/8th of PS3 owners in Japan bought Sigma.

More like 1/16th

Also, the DS has lots of great games. If it didn't it wouldn't have sold as much as it does.

TGO
06-22-2007, 03:49
Ain't this already been posted ?

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 03:51
I cannot wait until next week ,Foklore next week, lets see what it can do, and I think Ninja Gaiden will sale a few more as well.PSP sells are pretty damn good

ShinMaruku
06-22-2007, 03:52
Mina no golf might hold OD status if Sony shows it right.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 03:52
Ain't this already been posted ?

I posted the numbers around 5 min after they came out, so they're pretty new ;)

Beemer
06-22-2007, 03:53
WOW, Trusty Bell only moved 5k units? 360 is dead over there.

NGS isn't much of a surprise, they've already played it. Most probably downloaded the demo and figured it was the same but better looking. Hot Shots Golf 5 should move units when it releases, especially with the price drop.

naruto007
06-22-2007, 03:53
Interesting that Trusty Bell is outselling Sigma... Even though the 360 has less hardware there.


well trusty bell(eternal sonata) its a rpg and we all now japanese love rpg's so thats it even with less 360 out there they will be more rpg sold than other genre

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 03:54
Japan is getting spoil over there *sigh*

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 03:54
I cannot wait until next week ,Foklore next week, lets see what it can do, and I think Ninja Gaiden will sale a few more as well.PSP sells are pretty damn good

Compared to what exactly? From what I can see it is competing with the DS. The DS is killing it. Therefore, the PSP is getting killed by the competition.

TGO
06-22-2007, 03:55
I posted the numbers around 5 min after they came out, so they're pretty new ;)

Yeah I've just checked
it's the software sales that I've seen before

@The Idiot that posted before me
Just because a bunch of little girls & confused boy's have ran out and brought a DS then DSlite,black,white,pink,blue,etc,etc
doesn't mean the PSP ain't a success or is a failure

ylvis
06-22-2007, 03:56
WOW, Trusty Bell only moved 5k units? 360 is dead over there.

NGS isn't much of a surprise, they've already played it. Most probably downloaded the demo and figured it was the same but better looking. Hot Shots Golf 5 should move units when it releases, especially with the price drop.

What price drop? And I don't think a lot of Playstation owners owned and played Ninja Gaiden considered it was released for the Xbox in Japan.

Booha
06-22-2007, 03:56
Atlest the PS3 is beating out the 360!!!

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 03:59
What price drop? And I don't think a lot of Playstation owners owned and played Ninja Gaiden considered it was released for the Xbox in Japan.

Its not a like game in Japan thats a fact,Minna No Golf, bundle with the PS3 is 37 dollars less, so thy get a cheaper PS3 and a game, win win

ylvis
06-22-2007, 04:00
Atlest the PS3 is beating out the 360!!!

Yeah, but we're talking about Japan here remember.

roxormyboxors
06-22-2007, 04:00
Atlest the PS3 is beating out the 360!!!

Let's celebrate!
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2415327/2/istockphoto_2415327_celebration_toast_with_champag ne.jpg

mastershake86
06-22-2007, 04:01
I don't think the lack of NGS sales is that big of a deal there have already been 2 versions out already and they don't really have many appealing Japanese Genres yet. I think Japan is in the same boat as the US that we have some good games coming out in July(we like and anticipate Gaiden) and RB6 plus a few others from EA and whatnot they(in Japan) have HSG5(minna no golf I think over there) and Wangan Midnight and Folksole. Next month sales should pick up by atleast 25%.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 04:03
Its not a like game in Japan thats a fact,Minna No Golf, bundle with the PS3 is 37 dollars less, so thy get a cheaper PS3 and a game, win win


Didn't quite understand your first words there, but ok, wasn't awear of the Minna no Golf Bundle price drop.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 04:04
Didn't quite understand your first words there, but ok, wasn't awear of the Minna no Golf Bundle price drop.

I mean Ninja Gaiden is not like

TGO
06-22-2007, 04:08
Yeah, but we're talking about Japan here remember.

So when NPD's come around should everybody say

what do you expect, it's America remember
My guess, no

LordNoob
06-22-2007, 04:10
More like 1/16th

Also, the DS has lots of great games. If it didn't it wouldn't have sold as much as it does.

I'm not debating whether or not the DS has great games. I'm debating why is NGS/Trusty Bell being outsold by Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training.

I don't understand that outcome. Its like say hypothetically, if a new Brain Age and FFXIII came out simultaneously, the latter would be outsold by the former.

I do not see the justification behind such a result. Its baffling IMO really.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 04:11
So when NPD's come around should everybody say

My guess, no

You do realize what the original Xbox sold in Japan, right? If not, well, it sold only 400k in its entire lifetime. Which means it was as dead in Japan as Gizmondo was world wide. And the 360 isn't selling that much more than the Xbox did in the same timeframe. So it's kinda sad when a Playsation console nearly gets outsold by a MS console in Japan.

TGO
06-22-2007, 04:16
You do realize what the original Xbox sold in Japan, right? If not, well, it sold only 400k in its entire lifetime. Which means it was as dead in Japan as Gizmondo was world wide. And the 360 isn't selling that much more than the Xbox did in the same timeframe. So it's kinda sad when a Playsation console nearly gets outsold by a MS console in Japan.

Is that the only thing you see when you look at those numbers? :mad:
Next Gen is failing in japan

sqrtlsqd7
06-22-2007, 04:17
I cannot wait until next week ,Foklore next week, lets see what it can do, and I think Ninja Gaiden will sale a few more as well.PSP sells are pretty damn good

Compared to what exactly? From what I can see it is competing with the DS. The DS is killing it. Therefore, the PSP is getting killed by the competition.

Compared to the previous weeks psp sales....the psp had the biggest jump

ylvis
06-22-2007, 04:20
I'm not debating whether or not the DS has great games. I'm debating why is NGS/Trusty Bell being outsold by Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training.

I don't understand that outcome. Its like say hypothetically, if a new Brain Age and FFXIII came out simultaneously, the latter would be outsold by the former.

I do not see the justification behind such a result. Its baffling IMO really.

You want to know the answer? It's quite simple actually. Games like Brain Training and Observation Training appeals to a much MUCH wider audience than what games like Sigma and Trusty Bell does.

Phaeochromoctyoma
06-22-2007, 04:22
Kotaku blog: "playstation 3 continues to fail in home country despite release of hyped Ninja Gaiden Sigma"

is it just me or does japan hate Team Ninja? don't they like rachel at all???

DOA and DOAXBV did not do well there as well. along with NG and NGB...they must hate Itagaki.

charmingcharlie
06-22-2007, 04:25
Is that the only thing you see when you look at those numbers? :mad:
Next Gen is failing in japan

Next Gen gaming isn't doing that well outside Japan either. Both the 360 and PS3 are not exactly lighting peoples fire. Maybe Sony and MS did over reach this generation.

c.a.p
06-22-2007, 04:26
I'm not debating whether or not the DS has great games. I'm debating why is NGS/Trusty Bell being outsold by Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training.

I don't understand that outcome. Its like say hypothetically, if a new Brain Age and FFXIII came out simultaneously, the latter would be outsold by the former.

I do not see the justification behind such a result. Its baffling IMO really.

The Japanese DS fanbase is nearing the size of the PS2 fanbase in Japan. Xbox 360 has sold less than 400 thousand over there. It's not that hard to see why it happened when you think of it that way.

bluvi69
06-22-2007, 04:33
wow pretty sad PS3 number, NGS only add 700 more PS3, compare to 200-250% x360 number from previous week.


lets wait next PS3 game

LaOMaN
06-22-2007, 04:34
japan not ready for next gen. wierd there 10 years a head of us on phones and electronics. but they wont buy next gen consoles

roxormyboxors
06-22-2007, 04:37
japan not ready for next gen. wierd there 10 years a head of us on phones and electronics. but they wont buy next gen consoles

OMG Because Wii and DS are last gen am I rite LoL! Whatever makes you feel better when you sleep at night I guess :(

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 04:44
wow pretty sad PS3 number, NGS only add 700 more PS3, compare to 200-250% x360 number from previous week.


lets wait next PS3 game

Isn't that the problem though? You can always say "wait for Virtua Fighter 5 "wait for Sigma." or "wait for Hot Shots Golf" or "wait for MGS3" but at some point "wait for" gets old.

illusionstj
06-22-2007, 04:47
OMG Because Wii and DS are last gen am I rite LoL! Whatever makes you feel better when you sleep at night I guess :(

Wii and DS are last gen actually. Both are old gen with a touch screen and a motion controller, explain how that is next gen?

LaOMaN
06-22-2007, 04:48
Isn't that the problem though? You can always say "wait for Virtua Fighter 5 "wait for Sigma." or "wait for Hot Shots Golf" or "wait for MGS3" but at some point "wait for" gets old.

mgs3 is old. i think you mean mgs4. that golf game will sell big in japan tho but not in america.
i think the golf game should boost up ps3 sales

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 04:50
mgs3 is old. i think you mean mgs4. that golf game will sell big in japan tho but not in america.
i think the golf game should boost up ps3 sales

yep, I meant MGS4. I DO think Hot Shots should (logically) boost PS3 sales. Then again I thought the same thing before about other games. So I'll have to see it to believe it.

LordNoob
06-22-2007, 04:50
You want to know the answer? It's quite simple actually. Games like Brain Training and Observation Training appeals to a much MUCH wider audience than what games like Sigma and Trusty Bell does.


I'm fully aware. Maybe I should clarify; when I say “I don't understand” or “I don't see why this is the case", I really mean I have a contrast opinion on the matter.

Oh well its my minority view.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 04:51
Isn't that the problem though? You can always say "wait for Virtua Fighter 5 "wait for Sigma." or "wait for Hot Shots Golf" or "wait for MGS3" but at some point "wait for" gets old.

No its not the problem, Japn knows thta they like VG5 been in arcades for a long time, SIgma was never big In Japan.The love dating sims and RPGs, and crazy games, they Love Hot Shots Golf, and thats fact.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 04:52
Wii and DS are last gen actually. Both are old gen with a touch screen and a motion controller, explain how that is next gen?


What makes you say that Wii (or DS for that matter) is "old gen"? The Wii is more powerful than the GC, therefore it is the next gen Nintendo system. Similarly, the DS is more powerful than the GBA. Calling them Old Gen is just FUD to try to make them look bad.

roxormyboxors
06-22-2007, 04:57
Wii and DS are last gen actually. Both are old gen with a touch screen and a motion controller, explain how that is next gen?

Like I said, whatever makes you feel good. The fact is this last gen overclocked hardware with gimmicky controls is wiping the floor with the competition not only in Japan but worldwide. You could say that the PS3 and 360 are one generation ahead in terms of power, hence the high price and slow sales.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 04:57
No its not the problem, Japn knows thta they like VG5 been in arcades for a long time, SIgma was never big In Japan.The love dating sims and RPGs, and crazy games, they Love Hot Shots Golf, and thats fact.

What if Hot Shots Golf fails to move consoles though? And come on, you know as well as anyone that the forum was going INSANE over VF5 and NGS, making outlandish predictions as to how many consoles it was going to move.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 05:00
What if Hot Shots Golf fails to move consoles though? And come on, you know as well as anyone that the forum was going INSANE over VF5 and NGS, making outlandish predictions as to how many consoles it was going to move.

See this shows that you know nothing about the game, the game series has sold over 1 million everytime, it will move systems.NGS and V5 never even game clsoe to this game sales

KraZe
06-22-2007, 05:01
Eternal Sonata pushed 5 k systems... wow thats quite a feat for 360.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 05:02
See this shows that you know nothing about the game, the game series has sold over 1 million everytime, it will move systems.NGS and V5 never even game clsoe to this game sales

And that assumption shows you know nothing about trends. So far every game this forum has hyped hasn't managed to move a bunch of consoles. So far the PS3 has NEVER OUTSOLD THE WII since the Wii was released in Japan.

HSG MIGHT move systems. Nothing is guaranteed. Don't tell me what it "will" do, SHOW me it doing something.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 05:03
And that assumption shows you know nothing about trends. So far every game this forum has hyped hasn't managed to move a bunch of consoles. So far the PS3 has NEVER OUTSOLD THE WII since the Wii was released in Japan.

HSG MIGHT move systems. Nothing is guaranteed. Don't tell me what it "will" do, SHOW me it doing something.

Can you read at all? do I have to keep saying the same thing.I think I am done here, because going on and on.

D4rkness10
06-22-2007, 05:04
dam thats quite a killa how are things goin in europe though ?

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 05:06
If you actually thought NGS would boost sales your an idiot

turtle553
06-22-2007, 05:16
See this shows that you know nothing about the game, the game series has sold over 1 million everytime, it will move systems.NGS and V5 never even game clsoe to this game sales

I'm sure it will sell well to PS3 owners, but the series doesn't seem like a system seller to me even if the games themselves sell wee. When does it come out again?

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 05:19
If you actually thought NGS would boost sales your an idiot

It's not that NGS by itself would boost sales, it's that a lack of games makes it difficult to measure PS3 sales. Therefore adding a "name" title (albeit an older name) to the lineup SHOULD have had more than a negligible impact. If anything, this certainly suggests that the PS3 sales are NOT going to pick up overnight just because of one game.

ANY game should boost sales for ANY console because SOMEONE buys everything. Yet the PS3 sold only 700 more consoles than the week before. That's putrid for ANY new game, even assuming all 9400 total people bought the console specifically for NGS. Of course, that's assuming for a second that NGS wasn't a total pile of steaming crap (which of course it wasn't). The fact is that a well reviewed, well respected game couldn't garner sales. That's a problem.

Jared
06-22-2007, 05:21
Somehow I figured NGS wasn't going to be a system-seller. I think it's just another game to lay down the drought partially.

Onn
06-22-2007, 05:28
Trusty Bell did well! Of course it remains to be seen if Xbox 360 sales can ride high for a few weeks on the game.

Yet, now when consumers go to the store they're going to see 2 high profile RPGs next to the 360 (Blue Dragon, Trusty Bell) and none next to the other next generation consoles. With another big RPG on the way (Lost Odyssey!) This winter could very well be a big one for the Xbox 360 in Japan!

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 05:49
It's not that NGS by itself would boost sales, it's that a lack of games makes it difficult to measure PS3 sales. Therefore adding a "name" title (albeit an older name) to the lineup SHOULD have had more than a negligible impact. If anything, this certainly suggests that the PS3 sales are NOT going to pick up overnight just because of one game.

ANY game should boost sales for ANY console because SOMEONE buys everything. Yet the PS3 sold only 700 more consoles than the week before. That's putrid for ANY new game, even assuming all 9400 total people bought the console specifically for NGS. Of course, that's assuming for a second that NGS wasn't a total pile of steaming crap (which of course it wasn't). The fact is that a well reviewed, well respected game couldn't garner sales. That's a problem.
People like you are just blowing the situation out of proportion. NG isn't big anywhere in the world, but all of a sudden its supposed to sell big in Japan Gimme a break

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 05:52
People like you are just blowing the situation out of proportion. NG isn't big anywhere in the world, but all of a sudden its supposed to sell big in Japan Gimme a break

Well, it wouldn't have to sell big to increase sales more than 700 units from last week. Either PS3 is dead in Japan (more than likely) or... Well, actually, I'm not sure what "or" there is.

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 05:55
Well, it wouldn't have to sell big to increase sales more than 700 units from last week. Either PS3 is dead in Japan (more than likely) or... Well, actually, I'm not sure what "or" there is.The PS3 hasn't been doing well in Japan for months, is this news to you? or did you come here to state the obvious.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 05:58
The PS3 hasn't been doing well in Japan for months, is this news to you? or did you come here to state the obvious.

Not news to me at all. I'm just surprised there was NO bump. My expectation personally was perhaps 12k PS3 sold this week, roughly the same next week (folk soul) then a drop below 10k again. I'm not surprised sales are low, I'm surprised they're THIS low.

LaOMaN
06-22-2007, 05:58
The PS3 hasn't been doing well in Japan for months, is this news to you? or did you come here to state the obvious.

only thing that i think is funny when people compare ps3 to xbox360 sales and saying "hell its doing better then xbox360". both next gen sales sucks. i say have more devs focus on us and the rest of the world because it seems like were are the only one who cares.

Panda Bear Shenyu
06-22-2007, 06:00
Let's celebrate!
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2415327/2/istockphoto_2415327_celebration_toast_with_champag ne.jpgWhy are people drinking beer with wine glasses? Are they drunk or something?

I wonder when PS3'll break the 10 000 mark in Japan again...

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 06:07
Not news to me at all. I'm just surprised there was NO bump. My expectation personally was perhaps 12k PS3 sold this week, roughly the same next week (folk soul) then a drop below 10k again. I'm not surprised sales are low, I'm surprised they're THIS low.Some of us aren't suprised because we know that a remake is not going to push any console

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 06:11
Some of us aren't suprised because we know that a remake is not going to push any console

Yes, but a golf game will?

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 06:14
Yes, but a golf game will?
Do you know nothing of HSG? I guess not

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 06:15
Dude the damn Golf game is very popular there how many times do we have to say that goddamit

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 06:21
Do you know nothing of HSG? I guess not

I know that NO golf game is going to sell a... what is it in Japan? 450? 500? console (at least, that's the rough equivalent to the Yen price). I do agree it's very popular, that's not the issue. Sony's a popular company in general, that didn't help the console. Hot Shots sells 300 dollar consoles, it can REALLY sell 200 dollar consoles. $400+ consoles? that's a whole different beast.

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 06:30
I know that NO golf game is going to sell a... what is it in Japan? 450? 500? console (at least, that's the rough equivalent to the Yen price). I do agree it's very popular, that's not the issue. Sony's a popular company in general, that didn't help the console. Hot Shots sells 300 dollar consoles, it can REALLY sell 200 dollar consoles. $400+ consoles? that's a whole different beast.
So they won't sell a single HSG bundle next month. :lol:

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 06:38
So they won't sell a single HSG bundle next month. :lol:

Never said that. I think at most it's going to raise sales 5,000 or so. Why? I'll call it the Sigma effect. High GAME sales, but mostly from people who already own the console.

People WILL buy the bundle. But will they be buying the bundle in significantly greater quantities than they're currently buying the PS3 without it? Probably. A 5000 unit increase would be a 50% increase in sales (actually slightly more of course). That is a bump, but not exactly earth shattering.

EvoLutioNight
06-22-2007, 06:47
Never said that. I think at most it's going to raise sales 5,000 or so. Why? I'll call it the Sigma effect. High GAME sales, but mostly from people who already own the console.

People WILL buy the bundle. But will they be buying the bundle in significantly greater quantities than they're currently buying the PS3 without it? Probably. A 5000 unit increase would be a 50% increase in sales (actually slightly more of course). That is a bump, but not exactly earth shattering.
I never said there was going to be an earth shattering bump. I could care less, I don't work for sony I don'tcare how the system sells in Japan. It doesn't make my game experiences any worst because its not selling like crazy. I just like feeding you guys that come in here (PS3forums) only to post in the sales threads. Probably don't even care about the games themselves :lol:

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 06:48
Evo, just leave it alone *sigh* I guess those 300,000 store preorders will go to waste :(

LaOMaN
06-22-2007, 06:53
Evo, just leave it alone *sigh* I guess those 300,000 store preorders will go to waste :(

are you seriously happy about golf outselling ngs??? wow i guess it is good news.

TGO
06-22-2007, 06:57
Oh God, he's back again :mad:
Ya know with my time spent at the REforums while Nintendo had the RE exclusive, I came to one conclusion
Nintendo fanboys are the most retardest fans in the World
They chaff **** when their console ain't selling, and they chaff **** when it is :|

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 07:00
Evo, just leave it alone *sigh* I guess those 300,000 store preorders will go to waste :(

None of those (in my understanding) were the bundle, were they?

luis14ftw
06-22-2007, 07:20
seriously, WTF, how many fkcuing japanes people need a ds? imean seriously, does every japanese person have 10 nintendo ds's? im so confused. ds have sold on top sinceitcame out. how in the hell? does each asian need one in every color?

TGO
06-22-2007, 07:38
seriously, WTF, how many fkcuing japanes people need a ds? imean seriously, does every japanese person have 10 nintendo ds's? im so confused. ds have sold on top sinceitcame out. how in the hell? does each asian need one in every color?

Ya know when say the DS is out selling the PSP, (insert num here) to 1
they actually mean that for every owner with 1 PSP, theres another owner with 8 DS's

swopdark
06-22-2007, 07:47
Sony should bring us some game package combo's. Like MS is doing since Gears of War. They should make an Heavenly Sword package and definitly a Ratchet and Clank Package... That would sell some systems.

Dasimpse
06-22-2007, 08:11
so the 360 has got a 3rd of the install base and yet trusty bell outsold ninja gaiden, this boads well for ninja gaiden 2 coming to the ps3 then!

seriousley, i know we are in a summer droubt, but im just gonna give upgaming if the wii wins!, it SUCKS so bad at this moment in time!!


I was hoping the ps3 would do some damage in japan but its just a joke!, to be honest, this first year has to go down as the worsed first year for any console! the software line up is terrible, the price is putting every one off, and its no were near showing its true potential, if it doesnt sell maybe it never will.

Only hardcore fans are the ones supporting it, i mean seriousley people are going on about HOT SHOTS GOLF!!! I dont give a rats butt cheek if it sells well in japan normally, They aint gonna go out and buy a ps3 for hot shots golf, not when the wii has its competitor, that other golf game, not the wii sports one, theres another japanese golf game, where you actually play with the wii mote, so good luck to the peeps who think hot shots golf is gonna do ALLOT!

basically, this is painful. Ive been on holiday for a week, come back to no news and just more dissapointing numbers!

TGO
06-22-2007, 08:24
I think we should wait for it to be released world-wide before making judgement
afterall this was a remake to a game that appeared on console that didn't sell well in japan

hisame
06-22-2007, 08:28
It's more an expected result, but who knows since a lot of Ninja users are saying it's a great game.
It might move some PS3 next week.
ANd we got Folks Soul this week which is a maybe PS3 mover.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 09:20
are you seriously happy about golf outselling ngs??? wow i guess it is good news.

Why should it matter? they have diffrent tase, and I could care less

rugbynuus
06-22-2007, 10:25
Cant believe the xbox360 came so close to the ps3

Dasimpse
06-22-2007, 10:45
the actual fact that i find absolutely crazy is when the 360 was doing these numbers a week last year, the ps3 fans were ABSOLUTELY doggin' it, saying it was a failure etc, saying how the ps3 was going to do crazy etc.

Now every ones trying to JUSTIFY these numbers, its actually quite funny.

Listen guys, whatever fan you are, you shouldnt even TRY and justify these numbers, they are beyond a joke.

Every few weeks there has been a game that people believe would make an impact on the numbers, and its never happened.

Please lets stop justifying these numbers and just admit how shockingly terrible they are. THis is sonys turf and they are geting wooped!

It is gonna be a painful year, but i believe it will defo sort itself out and start to sell like crazy, but jeeeez this has and is going to be a really really really hard time for all console gamers until some big guns get released and then big numbers get shifted.

I havnt really had a next gen experience on either console for a while now.

i could easilly say god of war 2 is the best game ive played this year, adventure wise etc.

Forza 2 is simply amazing, but thats a racer. but anyway i want the big games, the shadow of collossuses and i dont see anything that might come close.

Im being serious. My eyes are peeled hard to uncharted and thats it!

game9102
06-22-2007, 11:11
2000 more and x360 would have outsold PS3...

That would have been awesome, I would've been laughing all day.

I guess we'll have to wait for...

Virtual Fighter 5
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Hot Shots Golf

until we see PS3 sales go up.

TGO
06-22-2007, 11:51
the actual fact that i find absolutely crazy is when the 360 was doing these numbers a week last year, the ps3 fans were ABSOLUTELY doggin' it, saying it was a failure etc, saying how the ps3 was going to do crazy etc.

Now every ones trying to JUSTIFY these numbers, its actually quite funny.

Listen guys, whatever fan you are, you shouldnt even TRY and justify these numbers, they are beyond a joke.

Every few weeks there has been a game that people believe would make an impact on the numbers, and its never happened.

Please lets stop justifying these bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla

Your post was quite funny, no really it was :|
but really did YOU expect a remake of an Xbox game to sell PS3's in japan?
your idiot if you did
there's no need to justify it, I don't need to, any PS3 owner shouldn't either, and you shouldn't care
but here we're are arguing with 360 & Wii owners about how the PS3 is selling in japan
pretty sad really,

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 12:04
Are you blind, did you read any post about the damn game? Its no use, talking about it anymore, since they already set in there midn thta the game suppose to sell well when the game was never big

Goonboy
06-22-2007, 12:05
As soon as the PS3 has a few RPG's, the sales will shoot up.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 12:05
See this shows that you know nothing about the game, the game series has sold over 1 million everytime, it will move systems.NGS and V5 never even game clsoe to this game sales

So how much do you think Minna No Golf will sell first week and how much do you think the PS3 will sell that week? The same question goes to EvolutioNight.

And you guys HAVE to agree that you would at least think the PS3 would break the 10k barrier the week Sigma came out.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 12:11
So how much do you think Minna No Golf will sell first week and how much do you think the PS3 will sell that week?

It will sale wellm they already reported 300,00 store orders, that means thta that peole want the game.It will sell more than Gundam I am sure, Gunda, sold 44,000 PS3 systems, this game will sale more I am sure.The bundle that SOny is making comes with a PS3 and the game for $37 less,so I think they will not missed the change to snatch one up for less.

TGO
06-22-2007, 12:17
Are you blind, did you read any post about the damn game? Its no use, talking about it anymore, since they already set in there midn thta the game suppose to sell well when the game was never big

Who was you talking to?, you never quoted anybody so it sounds like you was talking to me
but you couldn't of because your post wouldn't of made sense as a reply to mine :| :lol:

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 12:19
Who was you talking to?, you never quoted anybody so it sounds like you was talking to me
but you couldn't of because your post wouldn't of made sense as a reply to mine :| :lol:

:lol: no not you, it to many to qutoe, so I made 1 post :mrgreen:

EFC
06-22-2007, 12:24
Why are people drinking beer with wine glasses? Are they drunk or something?
You're joking right?

It's not beer, it's champagne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_%28wine%29)...

It will sale wellm they already reported 300,00 store orders, that means thta that peole want the game.It will sell more than Gundam
Gundam Musou had something like 290,000 store preorders

I am sure, Gunda, sold 44,000 PS3 systems, this game will sale more I am sure.
GM had a slightly lower install base (I was going to say much lower, but I just checked and the IB was 720,283 when Musou was released. Still, 200,000 units difference), I'm not sure golfbump will even equal gundabump (the "regular" weekly sales were something like twice as high then)

PS: btw GAF has the first-day numbers for the new releases, Folks Soul pretty much bombed (7k first day sales)

TGO
06-22-2007, 12:24
:lol: no not you, it to many to qutoe, so I made 1 post :mrgreen:

Thats what I thought, " Its sounds like he's talking to them, but his post is after mine and he hasn't mentioned anybody's name????? , TGO is confused"
:lol:

game9102
06-22-2007, 12:25
So how much do you think Minna No Golf will sell first week and how much do you think the PS3 will sell that week? The same question goes to EvolutioNight.

You're wasting your time... you can't argue with the guys here.

Most people here predicted that PS3 was going to outsell the Wii, knowing the price and list of upcoming games... when that didn't happen, they predicted that Virtua Fighter/NGS was going to sell system... that didn't happen, and now they're predicting that Minna no Golf will.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 12:29
You're wasting your time... you can't argue with the guys here.

Most people here predicted that PS3 was going to outsell the Wii, knowing the price and list of upcoming games... when that didn't happen, they predicted that Virtua Fighter/NGS was going to sell system... that didn't happen, and now they're predicting that Minna no Golf will.

Yes you are wasting your time with you lack of knowlegde of what Japan like, and what sales.People siad the same thing about Gundam, it push more systems than Gaiden, what does that tell you?

TGO
06-22-2007, 12:31
You're joking right?

It's not beer, it's champagne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_%28wine%29)...

Gundam Musou had something like 290,000 store preorders

GM had a slightly lower install base (I was going to say much lower, but I just checked and the IB was 720,283 when Musou was released. Still, 200,000 units difference), I'm not sure golfbump will even equal gundabump (the "regular" weekly sales were something like twice as high then)

PS: btw GAF has the first-day numbers for the new releases, Folks Soul pretty much bombed (7k first day sales)

Masklinn? are you not?
you join just to tells us that?

Hussaro
06-22-2007, 12:32
You're wasting your time... you can't argue with the guys here.

Most people here predicted that PS3 was going to outsell the Wii, knowing the price and list of upcoming games... when that didn't happen, they predicted that Virtua Fighter/NGS was going to sell system... that didn't happen, and now they're predicting that Minna no Golf will.

yahh expecting a bundle to move systems, so crazy.

Loudninja
06-22-2007, 12:37
Will you guys wait until Wensday before you call something a bomb? First day sales do not equal the week

TGO
06-22-2007, 12:40
You're wasting your time... you can't argue with the guys here.

Most people here predicted that PS3 was going to outsell the Wii, knowing the price and list of upcoming games... when that didn't happen, they predicted that Virtua Fighter/NGS was going to sell system... that didn't happen, and now they're predicting that Minna no Golf will.

Says a fan of a console that has sold solely on it's sports mini game bundle :rolleyes:

EFC
06-22-2007, 12:40
Masklinn? are you not?
you join just to tells us that?
I am, and no I initially joined to reply to the "beer" guy, I just thought I'd add some actual informations to the post.

(well more like rejoined anyway)

TGO
06-22-2007, 12:47
I am, and no I initially joined to reply to the "beer" guy, I just thought I'd add some actual informations to the post.

(well more like rejoined anyway)
uh

Headin'towards PS3forums, should be fun, their equivalent for this thread is already in denialfest, these news should make for fun reading.
I believe ya, some wont, but I do ;)
btw Nintendo or MS?

zetsurin
06-22-2007, 12:57
Intersting how the 360 release spiked sales but the PS3 game release did nothing for sales. PS3 has a very steep uphill battle in Japan (as does the 360 of course).

game9102
06-22-2007, 13:00
Yes you are wasting your time with you lack of knowlegde of what Japan like, and what sales.People siad the same thing about Gundam, it push more systems than Gaiden, what does that tell you?

I though I knew what Japan likes, until I saw the first day sales of Folks soul...

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - 30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - 20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - 10k
360 Saints Row - 7k
PS3 Folks Soul - 7k

Abother game people thought would sell on PS3.

*numbers from dengeki.

zetsurin
06-22-2007, 13:05
I though I knew what Japan likes, until I saw the first day sales of Folks soul...

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - 30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - 20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - 10k
360 Saints Row - 7k
PS3 Folks Soul - 7k

Abother game people thought would sell on PS3.

*numbers from dengeki.

I have never seen a post from you that says anything positive at all. You are always in defensive mode. Quite tragic really. Looking through your post history lists a sad and unfortunate history of discussion.

TGO
06-22-2007, 13:10
I though I knew what Japan likes, until I saw the first day sales of Folks soul...

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - 30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - 20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - 10k
360 Saints Row - 7k
PS3 Folks Soul - 7k

Abother game people thought would sell on PS3.

*numbers from dengeki.

been posted like......urrr...30 minutes ago dude, ya kinda late to the party
everybody's reaction was like............ :|
seriously dude ya shoulda seen it, it's was like 50 cent pulling out a DS man, just crazy
As Black Rob said, "it was like WHOA!
Totally snuff'up dude

kryton101
06-22-2007, 13:33
it's odd the 360 is so close to the PS3 when the japan market is so anti 360?
Anyway, the PS3 is operating in a competative market where they will have to take a share and fight for every inch of ground. Just like everyone else. The days of being given new markets on silver platters have come and gone with the PSOne and finally the PS2. Theres 3 big players sharing the field now.

bluvi69
06-22-2007, 13:50
what folk soul only 7k ?, this is RPG game, that should save PS3 sales, what? it even worse than NGS, shocked !!!

wow i don't believe it, maybe i think Japan still not needed nextgen console at this time.

Vampirtc
06-22-2007, 13:50
it's odd the 360 is so close to the PS3 when the japan market is so anti 360?
Anyway, the PS3 is operating in a competative market where they will have to take a share and fight for every inch of ground. Just like everyone else. The days of being given new markets on silver platters have come and gone with the PSOne and finally the PS2. Theres 3 big players sharing the field now.
Its not really that. They are actually not interested in either. Seriously a few K sold I'm sure even countries in EU do better as well as US states. Not even worth mentioning.

Lets go it gets better though otherwise Japanese developers targeting mainly their own market will have no choice to go after Wii and PS2.

bluvi69
06-22-2007, 14:02
complete number:
from dengeki chart



First day numbers...

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - ~30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - <20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - ~10k
360 Saints Row - ~7k
PS3 Folks Soul - ~7k


non popular genre from x360 (in japan) manages to do as good as RPG on PS3.

Saigon
06-22-2007, 14:14
thanks for the info looks like trusty bell did its job, I now know why the DS is doing so well over there look at the amount of games they have out for the system.

edit: maybe that is the reason they are buying the wii, maybe they are hoping for the same thing

EFC
06-22-2007, 14:59
btw Nintendo or MS?
I'm more of a Nintendo guy, they brought me back to the console realm after all.

Intersting how the 360 release spiked sales but the PS3 game release did nothing for sales.
It did +700 from the previous week (which can only be attributed to NGS, because I doubt the 8000 or so Call Of Duty sales can account for that), which is near statistical noise, but still +10% or so, and pushed the PS3 back above 9k

it's odd the 360 is so close to the PS3 when the japan market is so anti 360?
Anecdotal evidences seem to indicate that the 360 is reaching the status of "otakonsole": very specialized/niche audience, but one that is very interested in games (thus Trusty Bell being above NGS even though the 360 has a third of the PS3's install base).

And of course, the Blue Dragon phenomenon may apply in a pair of weeks (a lot of the BD sales were resold used later when the owners beat the game)

Persona
06-22-2007, 17:08
thanks for the info looks like trusty bell did its job, I now know why the DS is doing so well over there look at the amount of games they have out for the system.

edit: maybe that is the reason they are buying the wii, maybe they are hoping for the same thing

For everyone in Japan right now the Nintendo Wii is next-gen not the PS3 nor the X360. Everyone over there is buying the thing because of the controller and Wii Sports. Wii Sports is getting help from games over there such as Super Paper Mario, RE4, Harvest Moon, Wii Play, Fire Emblem, and etc. But its still blatantly obvious that when everyone in Japan (and the world) talks Wii, they're talking about Wii Sports.

This is going to continue for quite a while. Everyone should get used to it really...

Doc Evils
06-22-2007, 17:12
Why do people forget Folksoul has had supply issues like our Japanese friends on this forum have mentioned?

Perhaps it would be too much for the 360/wiii fan boys to handle.

Bakari
06-22-2007, 17:13
Well in defense of Folks Soul, it is not really the the type of RPG that Japan typically buys. Still pretty sad though.


Why do people forget Folksoul has had supply issues like our Japanese friends on this forum have mentioned?

Perhaps it would be too much for the 360/wiii fan boys to handle.

That was a quote translated from Babelfish, not exactly the most accurate way of translating something. It could have been completely out of context for all we know. Because even though Genji didn't do all that well, I have never heard of even the lowest of budget games only shipping out 7,000 copies of a game on launch. It simply doesn't make sense.

Doc Evils
06-22-2007, 17:20
Well in defense of Folks Soul, it is not really the the type of RPG that Japan typically buys. Still pretty sad though.



That was a quote translated from Babelfish, not exactly the most accurate way of translating something. It could have been completely out of context for all we know. Because even though Genji didn't do all that well, I have never heard of even the lowest of budget games only shipping out 7,000 copies of a game on launch. It simply doesn't make sense.

People have been saying it's been sold out in shops, so where else could the other copies be?

Bakari
06-22-2007, 17:25
People have been saying it's been sold out in shops, so where else could the other copies be?

I have only seen people regurgitating what they had heard from a babelfish translated quote. Have their been reports directly from Japanese members on this board or others? If so I apologize.

Saigon
06-22-2007, 17:26
Since that was your first post congrats neo for joining the board, and I won't go to hard on you, lol... <br />
<br />
either way I do know what you are talking about wii sports is the main reason for the wii...

Doc Evils
06-22-2007, 17:34
I have only seen people regurgitating what they had heard from a babelfish translated quote. Have their been reports directly from Japanese members on this board or others? If so I apologize.

Check out the Games section, someone one mentioned another Japanese gamer on another board that was saying it sold out in shops in 3-4 hours.

Persona
06-22-2007, 17:36
My definition of mediocore is different from yours... <br />
<br />
Manhunt 2 <br />
Dewy's Adventure <br />
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles <br />
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams <br />
Boogie <br />
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and...

Hobo9890
06-22-2007, 17:39
So to everyone that comes to the PS3's Forums for teh SALES AGE I hope you come back when the PS3's destroying the 360 in Japan...

The Wii sells so Does that mean I need one :?



....
Dewy's Adventure
...........
LMFAO :lol:


For everyone in Japan right now the Nintendo Wii is next-gen not the PS3 nor the X360. Everyone over there is buying the thing because of the controller and Wii Sports. Wii Sports is getting help from games over there such as Super Paper Mario, RE4, Harvest Moon, Wii Play, Fire Emblem, and etc. But its still blatantly obvious that when everyone in Japan (and the world) talks Wii, they're talking about Wii Sports.

This is going to continue for quite a while. Everyone should get used to it really...

Nahhhh I won't

Bakari
06-22-2007, 17:41
So to everyone that comes to the PS3's Forums for teh SALES AGE I hope you come back when the PS3's destroying the 360 in Japan...

The Wii sells so Does that mean I need one :?

That's not exactly hard considering the Xbox 360 sales 3,000 a week in average, and their best selling game has only managed to just hit roughly 200,000 lol....

coolguy
06-22-2007, 17:52
wow trusty bell helped the 360.. but it will be short lived.
if the PS3 was cheaper. then Sigma would have moved a lot more consoles.
people are geting wise with there money.
why spend 500 dollars for a console just to get one game....
its a shame to see the PS3 selling so poor in japan.
sony has to get there act together.....................

Fedos
06-22-2007, 17:55
It would be nice to see Trusty Bell have a sustained effect on 360 sales for the next few weeks or so, but knowing Japanese trends it's likely that it will have at best an above average next week and...

Saigon
06-22-2007, 17:57
Please give the links of this grand shift that you are refering to...Never heard of it...Most of the games coming out for the wii seem like ports from the previous systems ala PS2 so please correct...

EFC
06-22-2007, 18:36
LMFAO :lol:
What's so funny about dewey?


why spend 500 dollars for a console just to get one game....
To resell it when you're done, gamers didn't hesitate doing it when Blue Dragon was released.

Pizza_Lover
06-22-2007, 18:38
its crazy, 360 like tripled the sales! trusty bell must be an awsome game! man we need jrpgs like this for ps3. if trusty bell was on ps3, i think it would sold at least 10k this week. crazy 360 almost catch up with ps3 the same week ps3 get sigma the best ps3 game so far!!!


game9102[/B]]I though I knew what Japan likes, until I saw the first day sales of Folks soul...

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - 30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - 20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - 10k
360 Saints Row - 7k
PS3 Folks Soul - 7k

Abother game people thought would sell on PS3.

*numbers from dengeki.

i cant believe a 360 game is beating folks soul on ps3! and saints row for goodness sake, thats a american rpg, japan usually hate those! man its gettin nuts in japn!

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 18:49
Will you guys wait until Wensday before you call something a bomb? First day sales do not equal the week

Says the thread starter of "NINJA GAIDEN SELLS 20K" (who subsequently bashed people who pointed out that was 1 day and it probably wouldn't maintain the pace)

Croweater
06-22-2007, 19:18
Says a fan of a console that has sold solely on it's sports mini game bundle :rolleyes:

Not in Japan, Wii Sports is sold seperately.

BLaZiN PRopHeT
06-22-2007, 19:19
someone posted in GT that the only reason it sold 7K was because that was all they shipped? is that true?

Doc Evils
06-22-2007, 19:31
someone posted in GT that the only reason it sold 7K was because that was all they shipped? is that true?

It seems like it from what we are hearing.

Panda Bear Shenyu
06-22-2007, 19:33
Japan's gaming taste is wrong. Someone needs to teach them a lesson.

Pizza_Lover
06-22-2007, 19:36
if that true they ship 7k that a stupid company but i doubt why they would do that. man beaten by dead rising in japn on 360?!!!

Doc Evils
06-22-2007, 19:41
if that true they ship 7k that a stupid company but i doubt why they would do that. man beaten by dead rising in japn on 360?!!!

There seems to be supply issues leading to this problem.

Gameplay Player
06-22-2007, 19:50
Japan's gaming taste is wrong. Someone needs to teach them a lesson.

You're right. It's totally Japan's fault that they're not buying the PS3.

ylvis
06-22-2007, 23:16
It will sale wellm they already reported 300,00 store orders, that means thta that peole want the game.It will sell more than Gundam I am sure, Gunda, sold 44,000 PS3 systems, this game will sale more I am sure.The bundle that SOny is making comes with a PS3 and the game for $37 less,so I think they will not missed the change to snatch one up for less.

Sorry for asking this, but where did you learn to write English?

Bakari
06-22-2007, 23:44
Sorry for asking this, but where did you learn to write English?

:lol::lol::lol: I am curious about this answer as well.

Croweater
06-23-2007, 00:18
Sorry for asking this, but where did you learn to write English?

I've been wondering this too.

Novicegamer
06-23-2007, 02:16
I think it's the cost of the 360 and PS3 that's hurting sales. They can play with their little handhelds or Wii for a small price compared to the "big boys".

Greasy
06-23-2007, 03:40
how is DS not next-gen? or rather current gen.. its 2 1/2 years old...
In addition to touch screen microphone (hardly used) and wifi, there was a significant graphical improvement...

Zap2
06-23-2007, 04:24
Atlest the PS3 is beating out the 360!!!

In Japan...who would have guessed!

Gameplay Player
06-23-2007, 06:14
how is DS not next-gen? or rather current gen.. its 2 1/2 years old...
In addition to touch screen microphone (hardly used) and wifi, there was a significant graphical improvement...

That's called FUD. Apparently it's tolerated against Nintendo on this forum. At least they got the "fear" part right...

mrut
06-23-2007, 18:14
Sorry for asking this, but where did you learn to write English?

I think that because his PS3 is a "computer" and he is trying to type it on his PS3 without a keyboard. I'm pretty sure he was able to type posts that weren't littered with typos prior to getting a PS3

TH3JOK3R003
06-23-2007, 18:18
NG:S is getting beat by a RPG. do we have to say more

mrut
06-23-2007, 18:24
There seems to be supply issues leading to this problem.

Based completely on heresay evidence and a hope that it's true. Supply constraints of 7K discs for a game seem way beyond the believable

NuSoardGraphite
06-23-2007, 18:28
I think it's the cost of the 360 and PS3 that's hurting sales. They can play with their little handhelds or Wii for a small price compared to the "big boys".

You are absolutely correct.

Ever since Japans economic slump, the console portion of the game industry has been suffering. While there have been plentiful console sales, software sales have dropped significantly. In the PS1 era, it was very common for most software tittles to easily hit 300K, 500K was considered very good and many games hit 1 million or more. These days, its rare for any console game that isn't Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Pokemon or Zelda to come anywhere close to 500K. Even 300K is hard to achieve. Japanese developers are now considering 100K sales to be a good success!

Handhelds sell because they are cheaper...plus Japan is a society on the go...so mobile devices are all the rage. Look at the sales of the PSP...they're pretty good...even though there aren't a lot of great games out for the system. That tells you where the Japanese mindset has gone. The console is so 20th century....

TGO
06-23-2007, 18:34
Sorry for asking this, but where did you learn to write English?

That is uncalled for, he may suffer from dyslexia
you shouldn't question the way people type or write


I think that because his PS3 is a "computer" and he is trying to type it on his PS3 without a keyboard. I'm pretty sure he was able to type posts that weren't littered with typos prior to getting a PS3

No he has always type like that, and everybody except idiots hasn't question it.

btw: I post on my PS3, and that includes my threads with images
like my Heavenly Sword & Uncharted thread, but yes you are limited if you use the SIXAXIS.

hisame
06-24-2007, 04:57
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
On dengeki's weekly sales result Ninja Gaiden Sigma is selling better then trusty bell

Loudninja
06-24-2007, 05:01
SO its unrelaible than, so why should we trust there Folklore sales?Even though the game is in low supply!

Avrum
06-24-2007, 05:20
SO its unrelaible than, so why should we trust there Folklore sales?Even though the game is in low supply!

But then, who do you trust? Media Create, Famitsu or Dengeki seeing as they all tend to post varying numbers. Not only that, but then what is the disparity between numbers? As low as 1K or has high as 10K? Maybe lower, maybe higher?

Loudninja
06-24-2007, 05:21
Media Create is the most reliable

killzone_71
06-24-2007, 05:25
Media create: Reliable - Yes, but accurate - Not very much...

Gameplay Player
06-24-2007, 05:28
Media create: Reliable - Yes, but accurate - Not very much...

I'm curious how you know MC isn't accurate. After all, NOTHING is truly "accurate" unless you can call EVERY single store that has PS3 stocked at the beginning of the week and get a report at the end of the week how many sold. MC is accurate, in that it is the most accurate source we have out there.

killzone_71
06-24-2007, 06:03
I'm curious how you know MC isn't accurate. After all, NOTHING is truly "accurate" unless you can call EVERY single store that has PS3 stocked at the beginning of the week and get a report at the end of the week how many sold. MC is accurate, in that it is the most accurate source we have out there.

Not all reports are "dead accurate" thats what im trying to say...

Gameplay Player
06-24-2007, 06:19
Not all reports are "dead accurate" thats what im trying to say...

Well, that's pretty obvious. But that doesn't change the basic (approximate) facts of the situation. For example, it's possible the PS3 is selling 15 k a month, but it's equally possible the Wii is selling 75k a month. No matter what the numbers though, the basic point that the Wii is significantly outselling the PS3 is more important than the "actual" number. Unless you think it's THAT far off.

Loudninja
06-24-2007, 06:23
Media create: Reliable - Yes, but accurate - Not very much...

People only depend on there numbers, which are always posted on alot of sites

killzone_71
06-24-2007, 07:08
Well, that's pretty obvious. But that doesn't change the basic (approximate) facts of the situation. For example, it's possible the PS3 is selling 15 k a month, but it's equally possible the Wii is selling 75k a month. No matter what the numbers though, the basic point that the Wii is significantly outselling the PS3 is more important than the "actual" number. Unless you think it's THAT far off.

Ok Ok, you win... Happy already?

ylvis
06-24-2007, 15:17
M-create tracks around 80% of all games stores in Japan, so it's much more accurate than Dengeki and Famitsu.

Also, LoudNinja: The first day sales does not come from m-create but from Sinobi's Blog.

Loudninja
06-24-2007, 15:55
M-create tracks around 80% of all games stores in Japan, so it's much more accurate than Dengeki and Famitsu.

Also, LoudNinja: The first day sales does not come from m-create but from Sinobi's Blog.

Those first day sales came from Dengeki, that is what someone said on neogaf

qasim
06-24-2007, 16:04
That is uncalled for, he may suffer from dyslexia
you shouldn't question the way people type or write



No he has always type like that, and everybody except idiots hasn't question it.

btw: I post on my PS3, and that includes my threads with images
like my Heavenly Sword & Uncharted thread, but yes you are limited if you use the SIXAXIS.


where did you learn to type english its typed and haven`t not hasnt

ylvis
06-24-2007, 18:02
Those first day sales came from Dengeki, that is what someone said on neogaf

Yes, but Sinobi works for Dengeki ;)

TGO
06-25-2007, 02:56
where did you learn to type english its typed and haven`t not hasnt

You are correct, the sentence "No he has always type/d like that" was wrong
However, hasn't & haven't are two different words with the same meaning
Has not/Hasn't, Have not/Haven't. both words are in the English Dictionary, but are not used in all country's that speak english like many other words due to people having a difficulties understanding the differences between the two, ie. America.
So where did I learn english? I am english & english was one of my subjects at school
But I don't the ,.' where I should do in all my posts & by the looks of it neither do you
As I said before, you shouldn't question the way people post
Now it's my turn to asks questions :)
Why call me out on something so small ( I missed the d :o ) when I'm correcting somebody about insulting another member?
I don't know about you, but to me that makes you out to be a ****

Persona
06-25-2007, 05:39
Please give the links of this grand shift that you are refering to...

No problem.

First link, IGDA mentions how Japanese developers are shifting their focus from the PS3 to the Wii. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=24960

Second link, Activision putting more support towards the Wii: http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=11818

Ubisoft realize their mediocore support won't get them anywhere so high quality titles will be released: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/792/792772p1.html

Take-Two the same: http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=11871

Namco-Bandai, Sega and Capcom shifting resources from PS3 to Wii: http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/main/20070625AT1D210BD22062007.html

- - - - - - - - - -

This is only the beginning. The Wii is the fastest selling console EVER in its 7 months since launch. And not only that but its hear to stay. In E3 it starts. By TGS it'll be apparant to everybody the shift thats occuring. By next year... well, just take a look at the DS 2005 and that's what will happen to Wii 2008.

EvoLutioNight
06-25-2007, 05:54
Im not seeing a shift to the wii. Im seeing 3rd part devs just putting out **** on the system though. That must be what your talking about.

Gameplay Player
06-25-2007, 05:56
Im not seeing a shift to the wii. Im seeing 3rd part devs just putting out **** on the system though. That must be what your talking about.

I think they're referencing this (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13922) story.

Persona
06-25-2007, 05:59
Im not seeing a shift to the wii. Im seeing 3rd part devs just putting out **** on the system though. That must be what your talking about.

If that makes your feel better, sure.

You won't see significant change this year but its the beginning. It'll become blatantly obvious by 2008 to the entire industry on what's going on.

The numbers world wide aren't lying. I go to the systems that have software. Hence I have a 360 and a Wii. The latter system is the fastest selling console... EVER. More userbase > more software > userbase > software

EvoLutioNight
06-25-2007, 05:59
I think they're referencing this (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13922) story.
Different article same aganda, it doesn't matter. Im not seeing a shift, im seeing **** put on the wii,

Gameplay Player
06-25-2007, 06:00
Different article same aganda, it doesn't matter. Im not seeing a shift, im seeing **** put on the wii,

Fair enough. I was just suggesting that is where the reports of a shift are coming from. Although since game development takes time I wouldn't expect a lot of info about that until E3 at the earliest, and more likely TGS.

EvoLutioNight
06-25-2007, 06:02
If that makes your feel better, sure.

You won't see significant change this year but its the beginning. It'll become blatantly obvious by 2008 to the entire industry on what's going on.

The numbers world wide aren't lying. I go to the systems that have software. Hence I have a 360 and a Wii. The latter system is the fastest selling console... EVER. More userbase > more software > userbase > software
Not me, i buy systems that have games i want to play. Doesn't really matter how much software you have if there all pretty much **** anyways.

Loudninja
06-25-2007, 06:04
So the fact is we will not know the true Folklore numbers until later this week

Persona
06-25-2007, 06:05
Not me, i buy systems that have games i want to play. Doesn't really matter how much software you have if there all pretty much **** anyways.

Sounds like the PS2.
And the DS.
And the GBA.
And the PS1.
And the SNES.
And the NES.

What did all those systems have in common? Had crapload of software and a gigantic userbase that bested the competition.

But within that crapload of software there was terrific software to be had. That's the prize the console with the largest userbase always has. This isn't anything new I reckon...

TGO
06-25-2007, 06:08
Not me, i buy systems that have games i want to play. Doesn't really matter how much software you have if there all pretty much **** anyways.

I totally agree, 360 has a lot more games then PS3
but there aren't enough of them that interest me enough to purchase the machine.

@ Persona
No the good games on those machines weighed out the bad
with 360 & Wii it's the opposite way round

Loudninja
06-25-2007, 06:10
I totally agree, 360 has a lot more games then PS3
but there aren't enough of them that interest me enough to purchase the machine.

For real, why cant people get that?Oh so 360 has alot of games, but not the game I want

EvoLutioNight
06-25-2007, 06:12
Sounds like the PS2.
And the DS.
And the GBA.
And the PS1.
And the SNES.
And the NES.

What did all those systems have in common? Had crapload of software and a gigantic userbase that bested the competition.

But within that crapload of software there was terrific software to be had. That's the prize the console with the largest userbase always has. This isn't anything new I reckon...Not really. Theres actually a lot of good games on those systems, can't say the same for the Wii. Maybe there will be in the future, but look at the fall 07 lineup for Wii compared to the PS3 and 360.

Loudninja
06-25-2007, 06:13
Persona give it up, he does not like the games on the Wii, is that so hard to understand!

TheMadTitan
06-25-2007, 06:22
calm down every1, its the wii. it doesnt need good games, its the wii. my 5yr old sister luvs it and who needs online when i can wave my arms around like im on fire, its the wii. mini-games ftw. i still dont kno wat the lil mii's r for but they r so cute. yes, media give us a pass on all of our flaws because? u guessed it, its the wii........:suspect:

fattyinthewind
06-25-2007, 06:32
These weekly ps3 sales are becoming pathetic, Hopefully Hot Shots 5 has to change it

Wasnt Eternal Sonata going multiplatform or is it still exclusive?

Avrum
06-25-2007, 12:17
These weekly ps3 sales are becoming pathetic, Hopefully Hot Shots 5 has to change it

Wasnt Eternal Sonata going multiplatform or is it still exclusive?

Considering a bundle is being prepared for it, I'd imagine it will show the first big bump in PS3 sales in a long time. Thus far, the string of "wait for it" releases have done little to nothing for the PS3.

game9102
06-25-2007, 12:29
No problem.

First link, IGDA mentions how Japanese developers are shifting their focus from the PS3 to the Wii. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=24960

Second link, Activision putting more support towards the Wii: http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=11818

Ubisoft realize their mediocore support won't get them anywhere so high quality titles will be released: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/792/792772p1.html

Take-Two the same: http://www.vooks.net/modules.php?module=article&id=11871

Namco-Bandai, Sega and Capcom shifting resources from PS3 to Wii: http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/main/20070625AT1D210BD22062007.html

- - - - - - - - - -

This is only the beginning. The Wii is the fastest selling console EVER in its 7 months since launch. And not only that but its hear to stay. In E3 it starts. By TGS it'll be apparant to everybody the shift thats occuring. By next year... well, just take a look at the DS 2005 and that's what will happen to Wii 2008.

Wow, I didn't know that...

I guess that by next year most developers will be working on Wii. Which is really bad for PS3 because it sure needs some exclusives now.

ylvis
06-25-2007, 14:52
Oh god EvolutioNights is so ****ing annoying. He has pretty much zero knowledge of how the gaming industry works.

c.a.p
06-25-2007, 18:27
Not really. Theres actually a lot of good games on those systems, can't say the same for the Wii. Maybe there will be in the future, but look at the fall 07 lineup for Wii compared to the PS3 and 360.

It really depends upon the eye of the beholder. You may not be interested but that doesn't mean that everyone shares your opinion.