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Having now got the media server to work I really want to know if the PS3 will ever play AVI files?
I don't see the point of this feature If we cant play the majority of our media files. Will it ever happen?
makidian
06-27-2007, 14:20
I know this won't help but Zonealarm sucks and maybe using Kaspersky or Nod32 can help you out with this. I don't know why you would ever have to use Zonealarm but I would remove and find something else.
burgniel
06-27-2007, 14:41
Check your router ports.. make sure the hardware is allowing it to flow.
Your router is a natural firewall.. you do not really need zonealarm (unless you have some stuff people are really attacking your PC for).
I know this won't help but Zonealarm sucks and maybe using Kaspersky or Nod32 can help you out with this. I don't know why you would ever have to use Zonealarm but I would remove and find something else.
Ive never had any problems with Zonealarm but I am open to suggestions!
As regards the media server problem I have shutdown ZoneAlarm and started the windows firewall and all is good!
However I am not happy with the windows firewall and cant understand why zonealarm wont accept media sharing.
Any ideas?
P51-SN95
06-27-2007, 14:49
Ive never had any problems with Zonealarm but I am open to suggestions!
As regards the media server problem I have shutdown ZoneAlarm and started the windows firewall and all is good!
However I am not happy with the windows firewall and cant understand why zonealarm wont accept media sharing.
Any ideas?
I don't use Zone Alarm on my new PC but what I had to do with McAfee was go in and manually type in the IP of my PS3 in the McAfee settings then it worked just fine.
don't know if the same would hold true for you or not.
if you set a trust to the ip of the PS3 (needs to be a static one to work properly) you will be fine... if you want my real suggestion.. take that zonealarm crap off and run the windows firewall.
the router is your firewall. You dont need zonealarm or any of the other protection services other than virus scan - and if you tend to visit sites that install spyware- a spyware removal software.
if you set a trust to the ip of the PS3 (needs to be a static one to work properly) you will be fine... if you want my real suggestion.. take that zonealarm crap off and run the windows firewall.
the router is your firewall. You dont need zonealarm or any of the other protection services other than virus scan - and if you tend to visit sites that install spyware- a spyware removal software.
Thanks for all you're suggestions people! Ill try just using the windows firewall and see how it goes!
I always thought Zone Alarm was meant to be good!
Do you think it will ever play avi files? :shock:
EbonySeraphim
06-27-2007, 16:16
Sony will probably never support AVi files with all of the various codecs that could possibly be used in them in the XMB. If you want to play AVI files on your PS3 you have four options.
1. Transcode them and transfer them to your PS3.
2. Transcode them and stream them over network using a media server.
3. Stream them using a media server that can transcode video on the fly.
4. Install Linux on yoru PS3 and play them through VLC, Mplayer or some other media player that supports the AVI file format and all of the codecs.
The only other possibility is a third party releasing some software on a disc that will allow you to playback AVI files it can read on the hard drive. I don't know if this would go around the (codec)licensing issues that prevent Sony from doing it themselves. At least it would push it off to someone else who is willing to do it.
Tears of Ash
06-27-2007, 16:30
How would that work, a third-party person doing it? I don't think they'd allow 3rd party software on the XMB itself. Games are one thing, but allowing them access to the XMB's API like that?
k_nice_66_11_77
06-27-2007, 16:33
WTF? last time I checked the online instructions manual, it said it had playback support from most of the MPG family support, *AVI* & AVCHD, so it does play AVI, if you can't get playback the idk wat 2 tell u. A MAJOR CODEC THE PS3 is WMV as almost every distributor encode their video's using WMV codec, and that would be the majority of websites that support download for WMV vids. or atleast quick time, more codecs should come down the road........
coffeerox
06-27-2007, 16:33
sure it will. Once homebrewers can get to booting a program through some sort of exploit.
WTF? last time I checked the online instructions manual, it said it had playback support from most of the MPG family support, *AVI* & AVCHD, so it does play AVI, if you can't get playback the idk wat 2 tell u. A MAJOR CODEC THE PS3 is WMV as almost every distributor encode their video's using WMV codec, and that would be the majority of websites that support download for WMV vids. or atleast quick time, more codecs should come down the road........
check it again. Nowhere does it say it can play AVI or WMV files. WMA yes. WMV no. I think you got AVI confused with AVC.
zetsurin
06-27-2007, 16:35
Do you think it will ever play avi files? :shock:
It's damned near impossible because there are so many codecs and it will unleash the hackers forever looking for exploits. It bit them in the ass with TIFF support on the PSP so I'd imagine it's just going to be MPEG4-AVC. The upshot is that it's a far superior codec. Of course, it means transcoding the existing AVIs which brings about a loss of quality anyway (catch 22).
Me, I just use freevo/mplayer under gentoo linux. best damn mediacenter I have ever had. The only thing I could wish for is an at-power-on-time option for choosing which OS I boot into.
silentmemory
06-27-2007, 16:41
Thanks for all you're suggestions people! Ill try just using the windows firewall and see how it goes!
The Windows firewall is inbound only, almost completely pointless on your connection to your router.
ZA and other software firewalls are bi-directional, they'll stop software on your PC from contacting the internet without your permission, definitely a step up from Windows' own ICF.
As for AVI files, I expect you can use TVersity to transcode them on the fly, I know I can for my 360.
k_nice_66_11_77
06-27-2007, 16:44
Nah, it clearly said *AVI* go look @ ur online instructions manual. I wish we had support for WMV files, I already knew we had windows media audio playback since FW update 1.6, if we really want 2 be enjoying a plethora of vids. WMV is a necessity!
Tears of Ash
06-27-2007, 16:47
I hope they never allow WMV, it's a far inferior format in my opinion. Every single video I've seen encoded with that almost made me hurl.
Don't want to get my PS3 dirty.
Tutankhamun
06-27-2007, 16:54
I hope they never allow WMV, it's a far inferior format in my opinion. Every single video I've seen encoded with that almost made me hurl.
Don't want to get my PS3 dirty.
Yeah agree with you WMV is ****ty :P
Shadowfyre
06-27-2007, 16:57
I doubt the ps3 will be playing wmv's or avi any time soon, too many licencing issues. Anyway, I prefer the mp4 codec that's already available to avi or wmv, I'll stick with using playstation video 9 to convert my HD movies.
coffeerox
06-27-2007, 16:59
Nah, it clearly said *AVI* go look @ ur online instructions manual. I wish we had support for WMV files, I already knew we had windows media audio playback since FW update 1.6, if we really want 2 be enjoying a plethora of vids. WMV is a necessity!
well I'll be damned it really does say AVI on there lol! But it's MJPEG
http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000063.shtml
You'll still need to convert and supposedly this is used for still pictures, like a slideshow or something. Worthless.
I think it will at some point.
k_nice_66_11_77
06-27-2007, 17:06
Oh, I thought that was a video playback format, but atleast it got clarified, thank you for doing the research and not debating without doing research, my fault for da wmv crap, but u gotta understand that wmv is used by mostly all da web, but u might not acknowledge dat if ur "anti-microsoft"
Yah I would think so. I am sure they are still working on it and it will come out soon. But if you want to play Avi's you will need to install linux and install a codec package.
SoloSL203
06-27-2007, 17:21
in another thread of mine, i mentioned the possibility of Sony releasing a DIVX and XVID pack. They could charge like 10 bucks for the Divx pack to avoid having to pay the licensing...
Zone Alarm works just fine, and asa firewall it does what it's suppose to do, what you have to do is tell it that it is ok for other computers on your network to access your PC, so you need to go to the firewall settings and enter an IP range under trusted network.
I'm not at my PC so i can't give you the exact way to do it.
nojoegohome
06-27-2007, 17:27
AVI is owned by M$ so no it probably wont happen
AVI is owned by M$ so no it probably wont happen
Then why did I have to install an AVI codec on my new PC?
Labtop to PC-in FTW! :twisted:
I love watchin HD .mkv rips(movies/anime) on my TV!
psunittany
06-27-2007, 17:33
if you set a trust to the ip of the PS3 (needs to be a static one to work properly) you will be fine... if you want my real suggestion.. take that zonealarm crap off and run the windows firewall.
the router is your firewall. You dont need zonealarm or any of the other protection services other than virus scan - and if you tend to visit sites that install spyware- a spyware removal software.
Wow! Having been in the security and computer field for many years, I usually don't come across anyone suggesting using the Microsoft Firewall. In fact, the opposite, the suggestions to disable Microsoft's Firewall in favor of any other (including Zone Alarm).
psunittany
06-27-2007, 17:35
AVI is owned by M$ so no it probably wont happen
As far as I know, AVI is NOT owned by Microsoft. In fact AVI has various different codecs. DIVX, XVID, etc. are all AVI formats. XVID is open source and DIVX is definitely not owned by Microsoft.
mavsman4457
06-27-2007, 17:44
Having now got the media server to work I really want to know if the PS3 will ever play AVI files?
I don't see the point of this feature If we cant play the majority of our media files. Will it ever happen?
Don't confuse us like this. When you edit a post don't delete anything from the original post just do something like this:
Edit: This is where you would type additional stuff after you press the edit button. This way we can read you original post and not be confused and think that people are giving completely weird responses that don't pertain to your post at all. Because if you look back at the thread right now it just makes the people who helped you out look retarded. Anyways, the firmware developers already said that they won't be able to put in AVI support because of some copyright issues. It's in an interview somewhere on these forums.
nojoegohome
06-27-2007, 17:46
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave
Is there an online media player that plays avi files. My realplayer or windows media play won't play them . neither will quicktime.
psunittany
06-27-2007, 18:01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave
I stand corrected, Micro$oft developed the original AVI format. I feel dirty for using it. Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no licensing fees paid to Microsoft for AVI usage on commercial products.
burgniel
06-27-2007, 18:08
My media server playes my AVi files thru my PS3.... but I think it is a pirating issue... There is no content control with AVI's... just look at all the Torrents out there.
Lil Peel
06-27-2007, 20:33
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mavsman4457
06-27-2007, 20:44
My media server playes my AVi files thru my PS3.... but I think it is a pirating issue... There is no content control with AVI's... just look at all the Torrents out there.
I think you are exactly right and Sony doesn't want anything to do with piracy as we've seen.
If your trying to use .avi files through your ps3 you need to transcode them to a supported format. A lot of people on here and on AVSForum are using TVersity and saying it is the best program for it as it will transcode on the fly. uf you do a search in this forum for TVersity you should come up with a thread about exactly how to do it and from personal expierience it does work great.
Having now got the media server to work I really want to know if the PS3 will ever play AVI files?
I don't see the point of this feature If we cant play the majority of our media files. Will it ever happen?.AVI is a video container--it can utilize a myriad of codecs. There's no way to have a "catch all" codec to play back all .AVI's. That's just not possible.
As well, the .AVI format belongs to Microsoft (it is called Windows Audio and Video for a reason). You never know, Sony licensed .WMA playback, you might see .AVI playback, but I highly doubt it.
it would be nice, but i doubt it will be coming any time soon
LittleB69
06-27-2007, 22:24
Depends... What type of AVI files are you talking about? AVI is a container and not a format.
jweather
06-28-2007, 03:20
Do you think it will ever play avi files? :shock:
I have a bunch of AVI files on my pc and im streaming them to the PS3 using TVersity. It works very well but you have to have a good machine. Do a search in this forum on TVersity and you will find info on how to do this, it very very easy.
da wmv crap, da web, acknowledge dat wow what language are you speaking. the first half of your post was nice but as soon as "the" first "da" and to finish off with a "Dat" i can not read or should i say care what was written all i can think is who types/talks like that.
Well the PS3 should play AVI files, I don't no why they would not add it in.
HasselHoff
06-28-2007, 07:13
wow what language are you speaking. the first half of your post was nice but as soon as "the" first "da" and to finish off with a "Dat" i can not read or should i say care what was written all i can think is who types/talks like that.
Ali G in tha house? hehe (25 characters)
I'm just going to quote myself here, since most of you guys just post without reading replies. This is WHY .AVI is not yet support--and why I do not think it will ever be supported.
.AVI is a video container--it can utilize a myriad of codecs. There's no way to have a "catch all" codec to play back all .AVI's. That's just not possible.
As well, the .AVI format belongs to Microsoft (it is called Windows Audio and Video for a reason). You never know, Sony licensed .WMA playback, you might see .AVI playback, but I highly doubt it.
rpgmaster1
06-28-2007, 07:25
Sony will never pay the rights to Microsoft just for playing AVI files. Besides,the PS3 supports other video formats anyway.
BloodDragonSR
06-28-2007, 07:27
they could at least support divx and xvid, that would probably contain most of the video's out there, but then again, if they have to get it through Microsoft, just forget it :-P
Don't confuse codecs with containers.
If you're not AV scavy, just accept it when others say it's not likely.
they could at least support divx and xvid, that would probably contain most of the video's out there, but then again, if they have to get it through Microsoft, just forget it :-P Royalty fees bud, royalty... And why the heck would anyone want to use DivX and Xvid when you can use MPEG-4? You do know that both DivX and Xvid are derivatives of the MPEG-4 technology, right?
Sure, most illegal contents out there are in DivX and Xvid format. More the reason to get the real deal and make your own rip into the proper playable format :).
keisukeMamoru86
06-28-2007, 08:12
Might as well, since the new 1.82 update adds support for H.264/AVC High Profile
BloodDragonSR
06-28-2007, 08:54
Don't confuse codecs with containers.
If you're not AV scavy, just accept it when others say it's not likely.
Euh, divx and xvid are codecs used in avi containers aren't they ??
Guess I'm very behind on these things anyway (lol), ah well, I actually don't really care what kind of video they support, I'm still on watching dvd's anyway, wouldn't even have time to watch downloaded content, rather spend that time playing games :-P
What royalty issues would exist with DivX and Xvid Codecs exactly...being as they are free to everyone as codecs, only the software to encode DivX etc. carries price!
I have three Sony home DVD players, one which cost £40 and one £70 and the other £199.
All three play any DivX or Xvid .avi file I throw at them faultlessly, whatever video or audio codec is in use (and I have tried various formats to try and trip it up).
Clearly royalties aren't an issue (it's free) and piracy is no longer if Sony, Philips and every other mainstream DVD maker is including Divx funtionality with their players, I guess they have accepted that not to costs them money because people who are bothered about DivX will buy something else.
Including Divx playback with the PS3 would be just another winner for Sony, which doesn't take a major decision on their part as they are aleady doing it in their stand alone players.
And for those who say "well DivX is crap, why not use Mpeg4 blah....blah.....", it's because the people who want to watch DivX's are downloading DivX's and don't want to be arsed with conversion...if they were they may just as well use TMpegenc or similar and knock it out to a DVD format...
Parasitic
07-31-2007, 22:26
Clearly you have your own assumptions on how things should work. Your DVD player has the ability to play those Divx files because the manufacturer paid a licensing fee (AKA Royalty) that allows you to play those FREE Divx files.
Bitbydeath
07-31-2007, 23:41
I'm sure it will happen eventually, despite what others say. If enough people keep requesting it then i'm sure Sony will try accomplish it.
Once the other updates get through. ie ingame XMB then i'm sure this will be one of the next things on the hit list that people will be requesting.
RichMacca
07-31-2007, 23:48
The divx converter on the Red Kawa file server is excellent, although converting takes a little time (20mins per episode of Heroes) it is good quality, then it allows you to stream them easily to your pc to save on the Harddrive.
Not sure if your still having a problem with the streaming or not but this post is extremely helpful..
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/437952
I'm sure it will happen eventually, despite what others say. If enough people keep requesting it then i'm sure Sony will try accomplish it.
Once the other updates get through. ie ingame XMB then i'm sure this will be one of the next things on the hit list that people will be requesting.
Can't be too much to it, many $89 DVD players can play DivX and other AVI files.
It would be good to play AVI files on the PS3 than I could watch some episodes.