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The other Mod's and Admin's have known this for a while now. Figured it was about time I update everyone else here.
I am no longer an employee of Microsoft. As of a couple of weeks ago I had submitted my resignation and started work at another company.
What does this mean to everyone here?
My knowledge concerning the Xbox Project and Xenon projects is still here. My knowledge of the Console Gaming industry at large does not vanish. I will still be able to comment like I always have and still have my same resources for information concerning the industry.
Does this mean I can talk more freely?
Not even close. I am still under a non-disclosure agreement. As such, I am not going to disclose anything that is not already public available. In some cases, I still may not comment as it has not been confirmed or denide by Microsoft.
Who do work for now?
I will not disclose my new employer. Why? This would in part help to reveal my identity. This is something I do not wish to do. This would also potentially cause my new employer headaches as people may unduely spam them due to me. Thus causing my extra headaches and potential job difficulties.
Did I go to Sony?
Nope. Nor did I go to work for Nintendo (though I almost too a job with them).
What did I do at Microsoft?
Still not going to say, see my answer to who I work for now.
oxygenuk
02-09-2005, 19:11
right, and why tell us this if your not gonjna disclose any info that we really want?
Because it is only fair to those that frequent this forum. It was publically known that I worked for Microsoft. Now it is known that I no longer do.
Well congrats on the new job sounds like it was a step up from the tone of your message. Be fruitfull and multiply.
gaming ultima
02-10-2005, 00:45
if you were a run of the mill low down employee then telling us who you work for now wouldn’t give your identity away really, unless there were some people obsessed with finding out who you are. which means he has to be at least half the way up the ladder :shock:
MiThRaZoR
02-10-2005, 04:11
Don't worry Siren, we're not stalkers.
Have fun in your new job, and by the way, you don't ever ask a man anything about what and where he works. Just like not asking a woman's age.
That's just a no-no.
knowitman
02-10-2005, 04:22
I thought I had heard you say you weren't probably going to work at Microsoft anymore. Well I'm glad that you have a new job. Hopefully you will like this one better and have more "fun" at it.
Well, I'm here to pay my respect (err... not really, it's not like this is a solemn occasion, is it?). Good luck on your new job buddy ;). And have fun (as everyone else have said).
Yeah, I'm not the most original guy on the forum, but hey, what can I do about it?
Hey siren Gud luck in your new job dude!
b.t.w (you dont have to answer this if you dont want to) but why did you resign from MS?
Any ways, best of luck, hope your Job is exciteing! any ways, as i said Good luck Friend!
Hey cool i never knew you worked at MS (reasonably new here) so your like the forum(no disrespect, if anything i respect you more) boffin 8) . If this is a PS3 forum why on earth did you work for MS? Any way cool, have a great time at your new job hope its worth the job change, and keep up the good work your needed here so please dont leave this forum we would all be really sad :(
Colonel Cortez
02-15-2005, 13:11
Nice Siren, i guess working an M$ must have been fun, i personally dont like them, but they do make some first class software, i'm still too young to get a job like that, but thats the way i am heading.
Microsoft was a great place to work. Just, like every large corporation, certain barriers start to appear. I can become harder and harder to do your job and it feels less and less like you are making an impact.
My new employer is smaller by several magnitudes.
To answer the question why I came to the PS3forums. Well, just like all of you, I like to chat about what I know and Love.
I have been a moderater at several forums including IGN and Gamespot. Overtime, I became sick and tired of all the aweful posting. Forums seem to bring out the worst in people.
When I found the PS3forums I was immediately shocked by the sheer quality of the posting. Morph and Blake impressed me beyond belief. So I dumped pretty much all other forums and came here.
That is why you will see me getting cranky when I see people posting like they do else where. We do not need "Another Gaming Forum". What we need and want is "A Great Gaming Forum". One where people are welcome to speak there mind, but do so in a considerate and mature fassion.
Thegamingdwarf
02-16-2005, 11:13
Hey i never knew you worked for M$, so thats why your the most knoledgeable person on the sight, well i am honoured to know you, or at least your username any way :lol: . Have a great time at your new job and i admire you for downsizing in your job, its always the best move when barriers start to form. I totally agree with you when you say that this forum is like no other, its mature and informative descussions and great friendly people and innovative upgrades. We are all glad that you chose this sight and thank you for your knoledge. Keep up the good work Siren :D
What we need and want is "A Great Gaming Forum". One where people are welcome to speak there mind, but do so in a considerate and mature fassion.
That's exactly what Rebon and I have been trying to create. I don't ever want to see this place turn into a forum full of fan boys and ridiculous inane chatter. That's why we have gone to the lengths we have to make this forum as mature and interesting as possible. Hence the Skill Points, hence the strict moderating, hence the rules!
We were very careful when hiring moderators because they play such a huge role in the overall quality of the forum. At first, myself and Rebon could pretty much cope with it, but after about 500 users, we hired Blake, who did an amazing job and now more recently we had to expand the team even further to include PBM and Siren, both of which have done a great job at raising the level of debate and cleaning up the boards! So I would just like to say thanks very much to both of them for doing such a great job.
Colonel Cortez
02-16-2005, 19:53
ey Siren i know what ya mean, in forums people turn into others, i mean, a discussion abut a thing like a game can end up in a fight, childish.
And i used to post at IGN.
That's exactly what Rebon and I have been trying to create. I don't ever want to see this place turn into a forum full of fan boys and ridiculous inane chatter. That's why we have gone to the lengths we have to make this forum as mature and interesting as possible. Hence the Skill Points, hence the strict moderating, hence the rules!
We were very careful when hiring moderators because they play such a huge role in the overall quality of the forum. At first, myself and Rebon could pretty much cope with it, but after about 500 users, we hired Blake, who did an amazing job and now more recently we had to expand the team even further to include PBM and Siren, both of which have done a great job at raising the level of debate and cleaning up the boards! So I would just like to say thanks very much to both of them for doing such a great job.
Here here!
dumbxbox2
02-19-2005, 14:01
Just like M$, I just can't trust them anymore. The people who does are fools.
What are you doing now pumping gas for a living? It would better not talk about so much about your personal life you know. It just that timeline that when world not nice place anymore.
The funny part that siren maybe tricking us.
MiThRaZoR
02-19-2005, 16:52
When I found the PS3forums I was immediately shocked by the sheer quality of the posting. Morph and Blake impressed me beyond belief. So I dumped pretty much all other forums and came here.
That's because we chase them away before they they could post. Lol, you'll see it happen sometimes if they keep up the fanboyism.
I personally changed because you all didn't like fanboyism like I was along time ago. Now I just keep my stuff to myself. Or I make it so that it doesn't sound as a speech of a fanboy.
I do agree though this is a great forum.
Just like M$, I just can't trust them anymore. The people who does are fools.
What are you doing now pumping gas for a living? It would better not talk about so much about your personal life you know. It just that timeline that when world not nice place anymore.
The funny part that siren maybe tricking us.
Tell us how you really feel. :roll:
Microsoft was a great place to work. Just, like every large corporation, certain barriers start to appear. I can become harder and harder to do your job and it feels less and less like you are making an impact.
My new employer is smaller by several magnitudes.
To answer the question why I came to the PS3forums. Well, just like all of you, I like to chat about what I know and Love.
I have been a moderater at several forums including IGN and Gamespot. Overtime, I became sick and tired of all the aweful posting. Forums seem to bring out the worst in people.
When I found the PS3forums I was immediately shocked by the sheer quality of the posting. Morph and Blake impressed me beyond belief. So I dumped pretty much all other forums and came here.
That is why you will see me getting cranky when I see people posting like they do else where. We do not need "Another Gaming Forum". What we need and want is "A Great Gaming Forum". One where people are welcome to speak there mind, but do so in a considerate and mature fassion.
Ahh, yes, good ol IGN, I think the Vestibule there spells out how the rest of the boards are like, disrespect, childish name-calling, flaming, and unconstructive arguements.
One where people are welcome to speak there mind, but do so in a considerate and mature fassion.
Hmm, sounds like something Morph would say in the matrix, see am good a relateing things hehehe.
Epsilon-Zero
02-28-2005, 04:55
Hmm sorry about your job Siren. Wish it could of worked out better for you. Its not fun going job to job and its worse when you think you found a sweet job at a major corporation.
Oh well good luck at your new job and maybe someday you can tell us what that insider info was 8)
Sorry about the job? It was a sweet job at a major corporation. If it wasn't for the experience I gained at Microsoft, I would not be even 1/4th the person that my resume says I am.
It just that I made a decision when I first got hired at MS. There is only so long that someone should work at one job. I wanted to be there for about 5 years. At one point I reconsidered and thought I might be there for about 20 years, but that went out the door when MS in part stopped pumping out Millionaires and cutting back on benefits. The final straw that broke the camels back was when I realized that I worked on a product that would be in the hands of 10's of Millions of people, and I was not able to say that what I did for it was more than anyone else could have done, given enough time.
Working at a small company is a lot different and at least for my style of work and personality, a lot better. You never hold just one job in a small company. You never are just this or just that. Jobs are more vague and everyone is expected to help make the product what it is. Everyone is a designer. Everyone is a developer. Everyone is a Product Manager. Everyone is a Tester. Everyone is Marketing.
Working at a small company is a lot different and at least for my style of work and personality, a lot better. You never hold just one job in a small company. You never are just this or just that. Jobs are more vague and everyone is expected to help make the product what it is. Everyone is a designer. Everyone is a developer. Everyone is a Product Manager. Everyone is a Tester. Everyone is Marketing.
THAT, I agree whole heartedly with ;).
Im so Jelouse of Siren right now :oops:
He get it all, NO FAIR I WANT A LIFE IN THE INDUSTRY TOO!
soldier one
03-21-2005, 22:43
hey good luck with your job hope you like it there.
Loving it, only thing better would be to start my own game studio which I do have plans to do someday. Probably 10+ years out though, unless I can build a solid group somehow and get some Vulture Capitalists on board.
knowitman
03-22-2005, 02:34
Will you reviel yourself to us then if you do that? :P
PS Gamer
03-22-2005, 02:41
Microsoft was a great place to work. Just, like every large corporation, certain barriers start to appear. I can become harder and harder to do your job and it feels less and less like you are making an impact.
My new employer is smaller by several magnitudes.
To answer the question why I came to the PS3forums. Well, just like all of you, I like to chat about what I know and Love.
I have been a moderater at several forums including IGN and Gamespot. Overtime, I became sick and tired of all the aweful posting. Forums seem to bring out the worst in people.
When I found the PS3forums I was immediately shocked by the sheer quality of the posting. Morph and Blake impressed me beyond belief. So I dumped pretty much all other forums and came here.
That is why you will see me getting cranky when I see people posting like they do else where. We do not need "Another Gaming Forum". What we need and want is "A Great Gaming Forum". One where people are welcome to speak there mind, but do so in a considerate and mature fassion.
You were a mod at Gamespot? what was your name on there? since I was a mod also there :?:
Yea, i kinda know what you mean...I'm soon to be animator at Incog Inc. (Incognito Inc. The developers of Twisted Metal) Right now im just an intern, but as soon as I finish college (Its my last year) Ill be an Animator. Hopefully with all my graphics and programming skills I will also one day open my own "Studio".
Sorry, not going to post my other alias here, some of them have personal information tied to them
Im going to start my computer building company soon in the next 2 years or so, then get the profits from that and plan out a games development studio, any one want to apply? :D lol
LegendaryArcturus
03-23-2005, 04:44
Im going to start my computer building company soon in the next 2 years or so, then get the profits from that and plan out a games development studio, any one want to apply? :D lol
Is that, or is that not a rhetorical post? I do be hoping you weren't being rhetorical. :lol:
cx1(dcfan)
03-23-2005, 05:50
The other Mod's and Admin's have known this for a while now. Figured it was about time I update everyone else here.
I am no longer an employee of Microsoft. As of a couple of weeks ago I had submitted my resignation and started work at another company.
What does this mean to everyone here?
My knowledge concerning the Xbox Project and Xenon projects is still here. My knowledge of the Console Gaming industry at large does not vanish. I will still be able to comment like I always have and still have my same resources for information concerning the industry.
Does this mean I can talk more freely?
Not even close. I am still under a non-disclosure agreement. As such, I am not going to disclose anything that is not already public available. In some cases, I still may not comment as it has not been confirmed or denide by Microsoft.
Who do work for now?
I will not disclose my new employer. Why? This would in part help to reveal my identity. This is something I do not wish to do. This would also potentially cause my new employer headaches as people may unduely spam them due to me. Thus causing my extra headaches and potential job difficulties.
Did I go to Sony?
Nope. Nor did I go to work for Nintendo (though I almost too a job with them).
What did I do at Microsoft?
Still not going to say, see my answer to who I work for now.
Cool to find out you worked for m$... I wont hold it against you (jk, I really dont hate them ;p)
Question tho, how did you come to work in the gaming industry?
I know many people like myself would like to one day be a part of the gaming industry, what did you do to get where you are today and what if any major breaks did you have?
(obviously u can be as nondescript as possible so as not to reveal what your specific job is... but any advice or answers to those questions would be cool to note for my own personal information.)
Sorry, to answer that question at all could give away too much. People know each other. People also know each others history. If I stated anything about mine, poof
Dragonlance
03-23-2005, 06:00
Sorry, to answer that question at all could give away too much. People know each other. People also know each others history. If I stated anything about mine, poof
SO you cant even say what got you so interested or what you had to do to get in? :shock:
cx1(dcfan)
03-23-2005, 06:09
that's ok, I was looking for more general advice anyway.
Knowing people is the trick in most professions... But I suppose questions of how to get such contacts should be saved for someone who could better answer those questions.
Either way its cool you got to work in the industry... its always been a goal of mine, but its hard to know where to start other than asking others in the industry.
A little hint. If you want into the industry learn one of the following
3d modeling in multiple different programs like 3d studio max and Maya (and build a really good portfolio to show off)
OS design (and build experience working on Linux or at Apple or MS)
AI design (and build a portfolio showing off what you can get an AI to do)
PHD in Physchology (Usability will love you)
Moved "Z"'s rant on me to it's proper location, here
First off, to 007, or should I say Siren?:
I have to say this since I cannot stand someone patronizing me, let alone a whole group at a forum. I am getting some pretty weird comments like someone (I didn’t bother reading their names) saying his dad invented CD, or was it PSOne? Another tells me Sony isn’t a house hold name. and the likes. When I ask for a source, link, anything to support their “strange” claims they simply play dumb. But I do not enjoy being treated as a fool by one comment that siren seems to enjoy saying very often “can’t tell you, and can’t tell you why I can’t tell you”.
Oooh, sure, NOW I believe everything you say.
As DezNutz said
please save your "if I could tell you I would" *expletive deleted* from some forum uniformed newbie who may buy that *expletive deleted*.
Its things like that that lower you credibility. You give comments that are..let me say “out there”- to be polite. And when asked for proof, links, source, ANYTHING. You give the line: “I can’t tell you”
Please!
You may have people like playtation4ever that buy you are an undercover superspy 007 working for the evil corporates to give us, poor little defenseless gamers, the inside, life thretning and dangerous scoop that not even major trusted news groups dare to speak of, or even know in the first place.
Give it up already! Don’t patronize us.
For those who think Siren is Billy Gates himself; he claims to work for a company. So? You could be a janitor or the COO of that company. You think every employer knows all that is going on with their company? If you work at MS, Ninty, Sony, etc. you think you would know the “inside scoop” and “top secret” facts about them?
Electronic devices such as consoles are very diverse that they have many different teams working on different areas of the product.
For an example, all the 400 engineers that made the Cell haven’t got a clue how PS3 will end up like. The game developers themselves do knot know. Sony, or any other company, has “different” groups working on “different” aspects of a product. So with consoles, you got online engineers and planners, you got marketing, you got the base electronic layout team, you got the control scheme people, etc. so even if you work in the Cell to PS3 integration team you will still not know about what the new dual shock will look like, what franchises will be exclusive, what dev team deals are being made, and so on and so forth. And Cell being so flexible only adds to that.
Let me make it simple; let us say you are working on an motor engine (playing as sell) do you know how the cars that will use your engine will look? its other specs? Designs? Kinds of different modles planned? Distribution? No.
You can make “intelligent guesses” but you will not know the specifics or all the facts.
So if you were working at such a position yourself, you will only know a specific area of the product you are making. How can anybody claim to be an employer at the Xenon group that knows about the undisclosed financial deals between devs and MS, the marketing, Xenon technical specs, etc. when they are all have dependent teams? Unless he is the head of the Xenon project itself. Maybe Siren is J. Allard? Oh right, he “can’t tell us that”.
And do you think a respectable official will post in your average console forum and respond like thins:
I lower my credibility? With you, haha.
Or wait, here’s a better one:
As it is right now someone may be reading these and throwing an obsolute fit.
Oooh, the conspiracy element…how exciting!
Thank you for risking you job to give us some rumored speculation Billy Boy..Oh I mean Mr. “siren” – sorry, almost blew your cover.
And if there were people acting like siren, we would have been seeing how the prototypes look like, exact spec of the devkits released. Talkes that happen in inside closed meetings. But we don’t. why? Because very few people have access to that, and those are respectable reliable people that will not go to forums and brag about it using alias names. Heck, we don’t even get what happens in closed-doors shows at E3, TGS, and other gaming events that show off new engines or even titles. Let alone inside development of nex-gen consoles.
Also, anyone that has any kind of background in electronics, modeling, image modeling, CG can loose the average Joe gamer with all the numbers and tech-talk and seem he is Kuturagi himself speaking with him.
And what’s the point of telling us something if you ..(mystery music rolls).. “can’t talk about it” ? it’s like having three kids talking to each other and one says he has a PSP in his pocket, but he “can’t” show them and “can’t” tell them why.
The admins have verified who I am. One of them even knows my real name and my "former" microsoft email address.
I give hints. I don't outright say what is happening. Any hints I provide are based on a combination of public information and what I know is happening. I am under NDA (well for another 9 months) and as such cannot flat out say what MS is doing, and will not. But if something leaks, I can talk about it. I can also look at stuff that is public and help explain what are the options that can become of this.
Just an FYI, any Full Time employee of Microsoft is not a Janitor. They use a contracted service for that. Also, Microsoft encourages close group collaberation. That means, MS is not like most companies where you work on what you work on and know nothing about what anyone else is working on. Contrary, they held regular presentations and events that all employees were welcome to attend where they would discuss what other divisions were working on in enourmous amounts of detail. Why? This increased the chances of one product group looking at anothers ideas and design decisions and then contacting them and figuring out how to get it into their product if it was good. It was kind of a company wide review and collaberation effort.
I restate, I am an EX-Microsoft employee. You childish hinting of me being "Billy Gates" or "J Allard" show nothing but ignorance and worthless accusations. I don't quite see the point of this.
Believe it or not, people talk all the time. Why am I talking? Well, because I don't work at MS anymore. Though I still respect their desire for secrecy, I am a gamer at my core. I could sit down right now and draw in MSpaint if I wanted what the Xbox2 looks like, but that would be a direct violation of my NDA. I could tell you exactly what the specs are and could tell you a large portion of the launch titles. But that would be unfair to Microsoft. They trusted me and in return I will let them market the system how they want to market it.
So why am I on the PS3 forums? Well, because once again I am a gamer at heart. I am just as excited about the PS3 as I am about the Xbox2. I can't wait to see what they do with it. I can't wait to see the great games on it and get my chance to play them. So why do I talk about the Xbox2 so much more than the PS3? The answer is 2 fold
1) I know a lot more about the Xbox2 thus my current excitement level for it is higher. I know what they are doing, what games are coming, and am just oozing with anticipation. I, like the rest of you, know very little about the PS3's games
2) This is a PS3 related forum, as a result we have a lot of people come here who only post about the PS3. I am here in part to provide some balence to the argument. Also, since I know what is going on with the Xbox2, if anyone comes here spouting non-sense about the Xbox2 I can smack them down.
Both DezNutz and Z have questioned why I am a moderator publically. This is your perogative, but just a recommendation. Generally it is not good to walk into a party and question one of the prime peoples validity. While you may have good reason, it does not show well upon yourselves. If you want to question me being a moderator, I suggest you instead bring it up directly with PBM, Epsilon, Morph, or Rebon.
PS Gamer
03-23-2005, 23:55
I know exactly what you mean siren, I also have NDA's....I know a lot of stuff on what kind of games are in development...I also know of some of the PS3's launch titles along with other info that is disclosed to the public...My NDA involves stuff like not leaking anything to the public that is already out...its probably one of the same ones as sirens. Though every now and then I can also give a few hints here and there. Though unlike siren, I am kinda like the opposite.....He probably has info on the Xenon, while I have some info on the PS3. As I respect all rights and reserves of all gaming companies.
Though once, more news comes out I may speak upon it.
So for the first and last time we can stop asking questions and just wait till they bring us the answers.
P.S - If I do leak anything I can be fired and sued beyond belief.
Dragonlance
03-24-2005, 00:05
Know people.
EHh two words! *points* ahh well your otehr post clears it up pretty well.
So your contract with microsoft still exists even though you arnt working for them anymore? :?
Yes, and lets not even touch on the Non-Compete agreement... arg...
Is the "Non-compete agreement" mean you can't go work with a company like apple or somthing for a time?
MiThRaZoR
03-24-2005, 04:32
No offence or anything Siren but you shouldn't EVER said that you worked for Microsoft. Just gave them hints here and there. Anf if they ask how you know just say you feel it in your gut.
But that's just my 2 cents. I'm not much interested in many people's private lives and you shouldn't either.
Know people. By that, do you mean networking, or you were simply lucky that you knew someone who was "high up" in Microsoft?
A little hint. If you want into the industry learn one of the following
3d modeling in multiple different programs like 3d studio max and Maya (and build a really good portfolio to show off)
OS design (and build experience working on Linux or at Apple or MS)
AI design (and build a portfolio showing off what you can get an AI to do)
PHD in Physchology (Usability will love you) Noo... I only meet 2.5 of the criterias :lol:. I say half, because I did program some AI before, but they're mainly stupid idoitic AI that shoots at you in games and do nothing else.
Oh well, I'm planning to be a 3D Animator/Modeler anyways. I'm not too interested in the actual programming development side of games.
Why hide the fact that I worked at MS? Honestly, I tired this on another forum. I didn't want to deal with the potential backlash there. Sure enough, it came, very hard and very fast. I was accused of being placed into the forums by MS to skew view points. Because I had hidden my true background, I couldn't argue their points entirely.
So what did I do, I basically stayed out of forums in general for a long time. Watched and didn't act. Then when the time came that I was going to leave MS and I would no longer have to deal with the "you work at MS so you are biased", I decided to re-enter the fray.
As I stated above. I am no way attached to MS. I don't even own stock with them anymore.
MS's Non-Compete agreement, like most companies, states that I can't work for a competitor of Microsoft. Ask yourself. Where could one go in the tech industry where I wouldn't work for a competitor. Answer, you can't. What one can do is go work in a different area of tech than you worked in at MS. After having a lawyer review my Non-compete, he stated that my best option was to stay away from what I worked on at MS and get a job in tech where I could utilize my skills, even if the company was a Microsoft competitor. He also recommended a small company.
LegendaryArcturus
03-24-2005, 06:10
Siren: Non-compete agreement? Do you know reliable sources I can check out for information about Microsoft in details including the non-compete agreement, and everything there I need to know about game industry? I could use something like that.
Mind my asking why you be interested in their non-compete agreement if you are not employeed there? If you are in discussions with MS about employment they would happily provide you the Non-Compete.
Outside of the that, you can probably search online, non-compete agreements are pretty typical these days in Tech and are also pretty standardized.
Everything you need to know about the gaming industry and Microsoft is quite vague just to start. Microsoft is a huge corporation in tons of markets. You could spend the next 2 years reading every book there is about Microsoft and just scratch the surface. The same can be said about the gaming industry.
On top of that, most of the juicy stuff you would never read in a book, that applies to MS or the Gaming industry. The only way to get that stuff is decide to enter either beast and work toward doing so.
Another great source for either is blogs.
LegendaryArcturus
03-24-2005, 15:30
About that non-compete agreement, it sound like if I go for MS, my options would be limited since I won't be able to go for a competitor of Microsoft.
yup, once your with them, there is no escape, but it would be the same for most other companys in the Console bussiness its a harsh bussness but it your lucky, like sony, you will be in it for the jack pot. Not only consoles, bakerys some time dose it, weird but yeh everything needs to be kept to them selves so then they know they will get sucess out of something that no one else will have copyed.
So you can't join a competitor of microsoft? that certainly limits your options doesnt it considering microsoft has somthing in almost every industry the only one I don't think they got anything in is the trades
AndySmit
03-27-2005, 23:57
question: doesnt have to be answered - are you like a programmer or designer ( I want to be a programmer for games, right now i am slowly learning how to use 3ds max, my bro got it for me, no - he did not buy it)
PS Gamer
03-28-2005, 15:51
Andy, if your going to be a designer, a must is Adobe Photoshop...we use this at work all the time....(And no I won't say who I work with again I have said it enough already) you will also need Poser if you are going to go into animation...as I have said before, after my college days, I have an open job for animator, or programmer...I'll ride my gravy train company for a few years and then find a programming job, probably with sony...after a while there, I do infact plan to start my own gaming studio.
question: doesnt have to be answered - are you like a programmer or designer ( I want to be a programmer for games, right now i am slowly learning how to use 3ds max, my bro got it for me, no - he did not buy it) If you want to be a programmer, better start learning some programming language(s). 3D S Max won't get you a job as programmer, but possibly a modeler or animator.
AndySmit
04-02-2005, 00:34
i know
it is just something to play around with, if my computer wasnt so crappier id have other stuff like adobe and i would try to start learning how to make basic codes
Makaveli_786
04-02-2005, 05:04
Man why so secretive I don't mind telling everybody who my old man works for and he's a dev for a company many of you guys will be interested in :D
Rockstar? lol well they are my favouret dev's seen as they dont milk you for their franchises.
i'll be interviewing the director of xbox live programming and trixie, any tips on what i could ask them?
bustabusta196
04-03-2005, 21:45
ask them if they recieved any bad feedback about me *GT bustabusta196*, and from who?
Ahh Trixie, the character's design was actually based on one of the former workers on the Xbox Live team.
yea she told me she was happy with the way the art designer went with it
hey siren know any place like yours in az that is hireing just thought i ask?
PS Gamer
04-23-2005, 18:16
Once again, I come back to this topic to leave some incite....
To know what I am talking about read the post I have made before in this thread.
As, I have now finished college...(back on april 5th)...not an Intern anymore, am working as an Animator is quite fun....although as I continue I do get weary as this company is not fulfulling my needs.
So, I am now also co-working with SCEA and Incog inc....now that I am working with the big guys..even more NDA fly my way...anyway, to get to the point for me right now is hard...since I have to go to Japan sometimes for my Job, I now am learning to speak japanese...
What does all this babbiling mean?
Well, a few words...
If you want to work in the Industry...(For someone like Sony)
Learn Japanese.
(Because the Japanese don't speak a lick of english...)
AndySmit
04-24-2005, 00:22
thanks, do u think that if i get really good at math i could be a good programmer, especially if i started to learn the code stuff (im only 13, but i think that that is what i want to do, and it mite be fun anyways)
PS Gamer
04-24-2005, 01:13
I alittle hint...if you want to be a programmer...japanese is a must!! Its because if you are working for a company that also makes japanese games, your going to need to code those games in japanese. You don't have to be a math genius, but you do need to know your geometry, algebra, and cal.
i would love to work with SCEA or Microsoft that would be awsome!
ps gamer how did you get to start with SCEA and Siren how did you start with microsoft? give me some tips because i would love to work with companies like that.
If you read the thread you would see that has been asked before of me. I will not answer the question as it would potentially give to much information as to who I am.
PS Gamer
04-29-2005, 02:53
i would love to work with SCEA or Microsoft that would be awsome!
ps gamer how did you get to start with SCEA and Siren how did you start with microsoft? give me some tips because i would love to work with companies like that.
Well I don't really know what to say on this...I started (co)working at SCEA on April 20th, so I am just getting started there. Before I had an Internship at Incog Inc. (Incognito, the developer of Twisted Metal). On April 15th, sent in my resume. April 17-18th one of many SCEA managers met with me in New York city were there coperate office is. (Californa is were mainly everthing is developed and launched first, and I happen to live there...) so I had to fly up to NY just to get a Job. Pretty Crazy huh? well not for me.
I guess I'll drop a few hints on what you might need,
1.Like I have said before Learn Japanese
2.For what I am doing at SCEA, I needed my Bach. Degree
3.Know What You Are Doing
4.Be Able to Fly places
Smily0012
04-29-2005, 05:32
lol thanks for the info, might need it once i graduate from Boston Uni. Whoknows you might be able to help me get a job or something.
PeanutButterMunky
04-29-2005, 05:32
Learn Japanese.
(Because the Japanese don't speak a lick of english...)
Have you ever been to Japan? There are quite a few people that know some English over there. It can get annoying at times, because if they think you're an American, they'll come up to you and try out the English they've learned. English is also a mandatory language to learn in Japanese schools, I believe. I've thought about teaching English in Japan many times...would be a lot of fun.
yeh, not only that but its best to learn the most common Japanies, there are alot of variations of Japanise / Chinese languages in asia!
PS Gamer
04-29-2005, 11:19
Learn Japanese.
(Because the Japanese don't speak a lick of english...)
Have you ever been to Japan? There are quite a few people that know some English over there. It can get annoying at times, because if they think you're an American, they'll come up to you and try out the English they've learned. English is also a mandatory language to learn in Japanese schools, I believe. I've thought about teaching English in Japan many times...would be a lot of fun.
Yea, I have been to Japan twice now, and yea they do come up to you and "try" to speak english, its quite funny actully :P
I don't exactly know if its mandatory or not, might have to look up on that.
In some schools in Japan they actually recommend that they try their English speaking skills on Americans if they see them.
Smily0012
04-29-2005, 17:55
This is great, I just asked a friend of mine that's from Japan if that was true and told me that they do go and try to talk english infront of Americans, or anyone who doesnt look like Japanese.
PS Gamer
04-29-2005, 20:09
Yea they do, but its pretty broken and crude, you can kinda of understand them but they usually mix in Japanese words also.
As with the variations of the Japanese language, yes its really annoying for me since if I am talking in one variation, and then have to switch to another It takes me a while to think of what I have to say.
PeanutButterMunky
04-29-2005, 20:48
Yeah...they have a few different dialects from different parts of Japan, and it can get really confusing sometimes.
But um...how about that Siren and Microsoft, eh?
knowitman
04-30-2005, 05:36
I was really good friends with a Japanese exchange student and still keep in contcat with him while he is going to college in Tokyo.
He said that in school they mostly just learned the grammer parts of English. They also learned how to sound out some words and such. He says the hardest part about speaking English is that many words have emphasises on certain sylables. He said that Japanese is mostly monotonic and when your native language is monotonic it's hard to learn a language that isn't.
PS Gamer
04-30-2005, 14:25
I was really good friends with a Japanese exchange student and still keep in contcat with him while he is going to college in Tokyo.
He said that in school they mostly just learned the grammer parts of English. They also learned how to sound out some words and such. He says the hardest part about speaking English is that many words have emphasises on certain sylables. He said that Japanese is mostly monotonic and when your native language is monotonic it's hard to learn a language that isn't.
You got that right...the japanese are very "monotone". Though they do emphasise some words, like when there yelling and such.
All and All for japanese is hard to learn english, and for english is semi-hard to learn japanese (Hard being with the variations...it gets really annoying then...)
soldier one
05-01-2005, 07:43
Loving it, only thing better would be to start my own game studio which I do have plans to do someday. Probably 10+ years out though, unless I can build a solid group somehow and get some Vulture Capitalists on board.
I would gladly work for you, but that would be all up to you!
good luck with your plan i hope it works
What about mine, i hope to have a PC shop in town some day, theres nothing satifying to me then seeing a happy customer with one of my creations.
soldier one
05-15-2005, 01:18
i would gladly work for you i would like to work in a place like that. you should open it here in the az, one so i can work there and two buisness seems to boom here. i like that feeling to when you fix a problem or make something and the person is happy. good luck with your shop.
PS Gamer
05-15-2005, 01:30
I was really good friends with a Japanese exchange student and still keep in contcat with him while he is going to college in Tokyo.
He said that in school they mostly just learned the grammer parts of English. They also learned how to sound out some words and such. He says the hardest part about speaking English is that many words have emphasises on certain sylables. He said that Japanese is mostly monotonic and when your native language is monotonic it's hard to learn a language that isn't.
Actully at the most famous/Prestige school "Toudai" a.k.a Tokyo University, they have to learn A LOT of english.
New Untold Legends Video
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ps3 Wanna be
09-21-2006, 18:34
This does not qualify as an article...
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