View Full Version : VPN Connection Share not working - must sell ps3 :-(
ferrismc
10-16-2007, 23:09
I am going to call you for last help. It is now 4 hours i am sittng and trying this ****.
-In an students apartment you plug in your ethernet cable from your laptop ethernet port to the ethernet port on the wall.
- you click on the configured vpn connection with username and pw and connect
-voila you are on the inet but only on the laptop
So how to do it on the ps3 ?
I bought a USB Ethernet Device , connected it to a usb port of laptop.
Now on Connection Settings in Win XP i get Lan 2(the usb ehternet) and Lan(the normal laptop one).
I followed this
Walkthrough:
1. Install two network cards, connect the PS3 and the network.
2. Install and connect VPN.
3. Click Start -> Control Panel -> Network Connections
4. Rightclick the VPN connection and choose "Properties".
5. Click "Advanced".
6. Check the first box under "Internet Connection Sharing".
7. If you have a dropdown box in this window, select the network connection which is connected to the PS3.
8. Start the PS3, and if all is good - your PS3 is on the net
BUT IT DOES NOT WORK !!!!
I think some ip configs are not right so here i post it maybe you can help me.
Followed that walkthrough, this is what i get.
VPN Connection infos:
PPP, TCP/IP , MS CHAP V2 , MPPE 128 , ServerIp: 192.168.1.56 , Client IP: 212.201.50.60
The LAN of the Laptop , getting infos when plugging into wall ethernet:
Ip: 192.168.19.237
Subnetmask: 255.255.252.0
Standardgateways:
192.168.19.237 and 192.168.16.1 and 192.168.1.10
DNS Server : 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.130
Wins-Server: 192.168.1.10
THE USB ethernet that connects PS3 to laptop:
IP: 192.168.0.1 (gets this ip automatically when choosing the usb ethernet in vpn's Internet Connection Sharing", in the drop down list)
subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
Standardgateway: empty
DSN- Server : empty
Wins-Server: Empty
With this cinfiguration the ps3 does not get connection to the inet through the laptop that has set a vpn connection to the inet. Seems to me that must set some setting but dunno what , there are so much numbers. To hell with the guy who intevented vpn.
i'm pretty sure u need a wireless router... do you have one? the PS3 only connects to a wireless router, so you're gonna have to spend some cash on that.
i'm pretty sure u need a wireless router... do you have one? the PS3 only connects to a wireless router, so you're gonna have to spend some cash on that.
Why would it only connect to a wireless router? Mine is connected via wire, NOT wireless.
I believe you meant that it needs a router and not USB hub for internet... :confused:
Yes, a router may work. Go out and buy a router and try it. The router will actually take the VPN settings, and log in, sort of like the laptop does now. If it does not work, you can return the router.
The internet connection sharing may not work through the USB network adapter. Also you can try something else, connect from the wall to the USB ethernet card, then share the connection via the built-in card on the laptop.
Also call Sony, they should be able to help you and tell you if its even possible to get internet access via a shared connection.
But my bet is that you can return your USB ethernet card and get a router instead and it will work just fine that way.
VPN is a MS only security authentication system that noone other then MS uses.
It need the main server to authorise the terminal before you can connect and active.
It is use to access secure resource on a server.
SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
PS3 DON'T SUPPORT MS BS AUTHENTICATION.
And why would you need to run VPN at home? Why do you need VPN on PS3?
FGS VPN is mainly use home web access to produce a virtual private network access ponit.
It's the reverse of what you need to a PS3, which you want access to web.
It's like saying I want to use my PS3 to do my office work.
dbakerstl
10-16-2007, 23:33
Dude if your logging into a VPN connection from your appartment just to get on the internet - man someone is taking advantage of you - that is the worse way to authenticate users for a network - lots...
champstones
10-16-2007, 23:45
VPN is not MS only. But its overly complicated for what you need from the sound of it. I would not want to be doing this. I would suggest looking for some info on a router that may be able to share that connection out. I dont know of anything cheap that can do it. There is some free firmware you could use to get the most out of some cheaper router like a linksys like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWrt
Even then I dont know if that firmware will allow such a thing.
ferrismc
10-17-2007, 08:54
I try that above mentioned solution. But is it normal that on LAN2 the usb ethernet i don't get packets Received , but send. But on the normal LAN of laptop , i receive and send packets, the usual sign for a inet connection.
I try that above mentioned solution. But is it normal that on LAN2 the usb ethernet i don't get packets Received , but send. But on the normal LAN of laptop , i receive and send packets, the usual sign for a inet connection.
A network connection but not necessarily the internet. Just try the internet connection test in the XMB? If it can pass the PSN network check successfully you're ok.
VPN is a PITA.
Astaroth_PoD
10-17-2007, 13:12
Ok firstly, there are a LOAD of bogus answers here so please, unless you understand clearly what the guy is asking don't start talking about wireless, routers and VPN like there's no tomorrow.
I am going to call you for last help. It is now 4 hours i am sittng and trying this ****.
-In an students apartment you plug in your ethernet cable from your laptop ethernet port to the ethernet port on the wall.
- you click on the configured vpn connection with username and pw and connect
-voila you are on the inet but only on the laptop
So how to do it on the ps3 ?
I bought a USB Ethernet Device , connected it to a usb port of laptop.
Now on Connection Settings in Win XP i get Lan 2(the usb ehternet) and Lan(the normal laptop one).
I followed this
Walkthrough:
1. Install two network cards, connect the PS3 and the network.
2. Install and connect VPN.
3. Click Start -> Control Panel -> Network Connections
4. Rightclick the VPN connection and choose "Properties".
5. Click "Advanced".
6. Check the first box under "Internet Connection Sharing".
7. If you have a dropdown box in this window, select the network connection which is connected to the PS3.
8. Start the PS3, and if all is good - your PS3 is on the net
BUT IT DOES NOT WORK !!!!
I think some ip configs are not right so here i post it maybe you can help me.
Followed that walkthrough, this is what i get.
VPN Connection infos:
PPP, TCP/IP , MS CHAP V2 , MPPE 128 , ServerIp: 192.168.1.56 , Client IP: 212.201.50.60
The LAN of the Laptop , getting infos when plugging into wall ethernet:
Ip: 192.168.19.237
Subnetmask: 255.255.252.0
Standardgateways:
192.168.19.237 and 192.168.16.1 and 192.168.1.10
DNS Server : 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.130
Wins-Server: 192.168.1.10
THE USB ethernet that connects PS3 to laptop:
IP: 192.168.0.1 (gets this ip automatically when choosing the usb ethernet in vpn's Internet Connection Sharing", in the drop down list)
subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
Standardgateway: empty
DSN- Server : empty
Wins-Server: Empty
Everything looks good so far! As you have described it and the way the addresses show you've done everything right.
You're going to have to check a couple of things though.
1. You are sure you shared the VPN connection, and not the LAN connection it is running on? If you share the LAN connection you will only reach the network without VPN enabled - you have to share the VPN connection.
2. When you plug the PS3 to the USB ethernet, does a light come on or similar to show that it actually notices there's a wire in there? If you run a wire directly from the USB ethernet to the PS3 you need a special "crossed" wire. Else you have to run it through a switch or hub with two cables, one to the PS3 and one to the USB ethernet.
3. Does the PS3 get an IP address when you do an internet connection test? Which tests fail, which are OK? if it gets an IP address (it will be in the 192.168.0.* range) then at least your connection to the laptop is OK. If it doesn't, you probably have a problem with number 2.
Good luck - if you got this far in just 4 hours I wouldn't worry, I spend days when I try to figure out new stuff that I want to try :)
hisame, as always, is making nonsense noises.
VPNs are a standard feature used across every OS, including Linux and Mac systems. But wait! That's not even relevant here, because the goal is not to connect the PS3 to a VPN, but to have another machine share its VPN to the PS3. So, if the host system is doing its job, the PS3 not only doesn't have to do anything, but doesn't have any way of knowing that anything's going on!
My guess is that the Windows machine is not, in fact, properly sharing the connection; it's quite possible that it refuses to, or that it's just configured wrong.
The first thing I'd try to do is get the laptop and the PS3 talking. (BTW, ignore the morons talking about the USB adapter -- I don't think they understand that it's on the laptop, not on the PS3.) First off, do you even get connection lights? Is it possible that neither of them is autosensing or capable of swapping, and you need a cross cable?
If you can get the laptop and the PS3 talking (just ping, even), then you should have a chance of getting connection sharing to work. If you can't, then the rest is irrelevant. But it should be doable. Unfortunately, I don't have an easy way to check whether the PS3's port automatically adapts to lack of a cross cable.
I second the notion that, if you can find a router which supports the VPN you're supposed to be on, a router would be easier than trying to get Windows to do it.
The best solution for this is to get a router that supports VPN. My wireless Linksys router supports VPN on it and will allow the router to log onto the VPN server, then anything that connects to the router either through a LAN cable or wireless has full access. Do not buy a cheap router as it may not support VPN. In this situation, going cheap will NOT be the best solution. A "good" router will probably cost about $60 - 80 for a A/B/G protocol router.
I would suggest NOT to try network sharing with a PC/laptop. Two reasons for that. 1) It makes life more complicated with the setup. 2) You're always tied to your PC/laptop and will always have to have your PC/laptop on. You might save money initially because the USB ethernet is cheaper than a good router, but you will be paying money for electricity in the long run to power the laptop. Also, because your laptop is always plugged in, the batteries will wear out sooner than with regular usage.
And to the person saying that you can only connect to the PS3 through wireless is wrong. There is a LAN connector on the back of the PS3 as well as the wireless connection.
saftwear
10-17-2007, 22:45
The best solution for this is to get a router that supports VPN. My wireless Linksys router supports VPN on it and will allow the router to log onto the VPN server, then anything that connects to the router either through a LAN cable or wireless has full access. Do not buy a cheap router as it may not support VPN. In this situation, going cheap will NOT be the best solution. A "good" router will probably cost about $60 - 80 for a A/B/G protocol router.
I would suggest NOT to try network sharing with a PC/laptop. Two reasons for that. 1) It makes life more complicated with the setup. 2) You're always tied to your PC/laptop and will always have to have your PC/laptop on. You might save money initially because the USB ethernet is cheaper than a good router, but you will be paying money for electricity in the long run to power the laptop. Also, because your laptop is always plugged in, the batteries will wear out sooner than with regular usage.
And to the person saying that you can only connect to the PS3 through wireless is wrong. There is a LAN connector on the back of the PS3 as well as the wireless connection.
This is by far the best solution for you. Usually a VPN will not allow multiple connections from the same user unless they have multiple VPN servers set up. but if you configure the router to always connect through a VPN then you should be able to share the connection even wirelessly.
As far as a crossover cable and hooking into a shared laptop in a VPN session, just doesn't seem like the best way to this.
ferrismc
10-18-2007, 00:04
the green light is blinking. i am connection usb ethernet and ps3 directly BUT WITH NORMAL LAN CABLE ! maybe thats the problem. i dont have a cross over cable, but i have router here, i take use of it to bypass the cross over direct connection.
i will let you know then what happend. how can i check by the way if ps3 and laptop are communicating ?
the ps3 needs an ip so i can ping and see if it is ok. but if it doesn't get even a ping i cant check that.
could be the router itself some are not very good in the plug and play mode and need you to be proficient in network setups.
Sometimes on rare ocasions routers get in a tizz and if you inplug the power to the router and count to thirty seconds it can solve it (even on mine this can sometimes prevent access).
Personally I use netgear as its sets everything up itself and all I had to do is just plug my network cable into that and the ps3 and it just set it up to work through my broadband.
I have computer qualifications but networks are a real problem for me so I go for easy to use ones.
UCONN for life
10-18-2007, 00:31
Hey, I'm at UCONN right now, and I know that here, the school blocks all of the game console ethernet signals that it gets going through its system, unless you request access. Try talking to whoever does your internet, they know a lot more than you think. Its possibly something at their end.
You should be able to configure a Linksys router to connect to the VPN and then you will have your own NAT take care of your connected devices.
the green light is blinking. i am connection usb ethernet and ps3 directly BUT WITH NORMAL LAN CABLE ! maybe thats the problem. i dont have a cross over cable, but i have router here, i take use of it to bypass the cross over direct connection.
i will let you know then what happend. how can i check by the way if ps3 and laptop are communicating ?
the ps3 needs an ip so i can ping and see if it is ok. but if it doesn't get even a ping i cant check that.
Doesn't it have an option for manual configuration? Plug in a manual IP address in the 192.168.0 block and then try to ping it from the other machine.
If the green light came on, you shouldn't need a cross cable. I'd assume that Sony (and the other vendor, too) would handle autosensing on that, I think everyone does these days.
If you know Linux at all, put Linux on it and use that to debug, it's easier to see what's happening. :)
ferrismc
10-18-2007, 09:11
Great man. One problem is solved. I now connected the PS3 and the USB Ethernet in laptop through a normal router and now the ps3 gets IP !!!
But then now , DNS error !!!!
the ps3 has made following setting automatically:
ip: 192.168.0.130
subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
gateway: 192.168.0.1 (= ip of usb ethernet)
primary DNS is : 192.168.0.1 but seems to be problems here.
I must correct some setting:
This again is Lan Port of Laptop:
The LAN of the Laptop , getting infos when plugging into wall ethernet:
Ip: 192.168.19.237
Subnetmask: 255.255.252.0
Standardgateway:
192.168.16.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.1.10
DNS Server : 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.130
Wins-Server: 192.168.1.10
ferrismc
10-18-2007, 11:35
here pictures. i managed to get ok dns by sharing the connection not of VPN but of the notebook LAN.
HERE ARE PICTURES OF ALL SETTINGS.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TMQAQBY0
Astaroth_PoD
10-18-2007, 12:07
Excellent man, great progress! Glad you're not getting caught up in all the weird advice here.
here pictures. i managed to get ok dns by sharing the connection not of VPN but of the notebook LAN.
HERE ARE PICTURES OF ALL SETTINGS.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TMQAQBY0
I find it peculiar that the DNS isn't working with the VPN connection. The DNS that the PS3 gets (192.168.0.1) is just a caching DNS server on the laptop which will ask for the address from the laptops DNS servers. So if it works on the laptop, it should work on the PS3. You might just want to try to restart everything and see if you get any better luck.
If not, then you can try to set the PS3 network settings to put in the manual DNS addresses.
Pick any DNS you want, every DNS on the internet will usually answer your requests - start with 192.168.1.10 and 192.168.1.130 and go from there if those doesn't work. I would suggest trying 131.220.99.33 next as that's the authorative DNS for your StudNet in Bonn.
Keep it at DHCP for the ip address though, if PS3 has that possibility. If not, put in 192.168.0.130 for ip and 192.168.0.1 for gateway (like you got before on automatic). It's gonna have to work sooner or later :)
Good luck!
- in ps menu -set dns1 to your pc (to ps) connection2 pc - ip, set dns2 to 0.0.0.0.0.0 ... set connection1 to share ( connection1 modem to pc -- go to properties,.. advanced.. alow other network users to connect trough this computer... run Setup a new home or office netowork wizard
sorry I just speed read your post but,.. I think you will get it working... or search the site for more info,.. I have my cable modem connected trough Usb to pc (modem has both usb-eth prots) ,.. and then pc to ps3 trough ethernet cable.... and it works.. only downside is that you have to have pc running to use the ps internet.. but I dont have cash for router atm... plus when i get the router I will have to call the cable company to change the mac address to routers...couse they lock it for some reason .. why da **** do you need a VPN connection ... just do what i said and... i imagine the things are not that different on the laptop..
look its more or less plug and play... only be sure that you put in xmb dns1 - to commection2 ip (that ip is the pc ip) dns2 to 0.0.0.0.0.0 ... you will have as much a secure network as you want,... setup as many firewalls and **** on your laptop (connection 1 ) as you want..couse the data goes trough your pc anyway
ok than again maybe i dont get what you want.. will read your post again later.. really bizzzy atm..
babyface
10-18-2007, 19:50
VPN is a MS only security authentication system that noone other then MS uses.
Aahhrrr.... really? And I thought "VPN" means "Virtual Private Network"...
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n100858.asp
You need to have the appropriate VPN client software for connecting to a VPN! And the approriate keys or certificates!
VPN is used often for accessing internal company networks from outside over the internet. A VPN basically creates a secure tunnel from one system to another through an unsecure environment.
Now, since the PS3 does not sport any VPN client support, I guess you're out of luck. Unless, of course, your router has the appropriate VPN client built-in.