Arsenal Thread

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Originally Posted by The Boy From School

How do you gents feel about this upcoming window?

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I honestly dont care because we have enough good players and aside from Falcao, there are no world beaters on the market. I dont care that much are Huntelaar or Lewondowski. They are good but they are no aguero, suarez, rvp, rooney, etc...
We could use some midfield cover as Ramsey is not good enough yet.

All I hope is that we resign walcott and dumping some dead weight would be a bonus.

The problem is not personnel as people like to point out. How many of you really dont think we have good enough players to score against a team like villa who conceded 8 goals against the manchesters. And we could only register one shitty shot on target? Even they had 4 shots on goal. Clearly the problem extends far beyond the players.

I dunno man, maybe some pure striker? Who knows. Unless they're willing to spend, I think we get some true specialist that can finish.

I mean, we're certainly not lacking the wingers/rover types of players to get strikers the ball.

:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-tMW...feature=relmfu

It's a combination of management and personnel. It's not just one or the other. Seriously - we have players like Gervinho and Ramsey lining up for us, and up front we have absolutely zero options, unlike the title-chasing teams. Even Chelsea with their striker crisis have Torres and Sturridge - we are one injury away from Chamakh starting for us.

Since our 'glory days' we have had a habit of persisting with players that are not good enough for a team that wants to be successful. Denilson, Bendtner, Eboue, Almunia, etc. Guys that play way too many times. At least with seasons passed we had the quality through our squad to carry such dross but that's not the case now, or so it seems. I know Ramsey is young and I'm being unfair in a way but we need to start taking things serious or we will continue to fall behind.

I don't mind players that are not full of flare, trickery, pace etc - so long as they do the basics correct and keep the game ticking. Our sub-par players don't even do these things.

And then you have management that throws on a DM (Coquelan) in the final few minutes against both Villa and Everton. Why not Arsha, why not Rosicky? Playing for draws is fine against City or Utd but Everton are considered our CL place rivals and Villa....were in the bottom 3 ffs. I guess even Arsene has lost a little faith in the team.

He keeps going on about our shot confidence and he's got a point but victory over Spurs and then Montpellier should have seen us kick on. We have nearly a full strength team so we can't use the injury excuse anymore.

*kneejerk* Yes as you can tell I'm a little pissed with our timid performances.

How we conduct ourselves in January will be interesting.

In years passed guys like Diaby and Rosicky [+even RvP] could stay injured for a season long and we'd still mount a respectable title challenge but eventually crumble due to those injuries. Now we need these guys to come back and lead us to respectable performances. Huge difference in the quality of our personnel. I'm interested to see if these new fiscal deals will breathe any life into the 'ambitions' of the club

Sigh.

Anyway this is from an Arsenal forum. Pretty much sums the season up to this point:

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12 behind first place.

6 points behind 4th place.

Sitting below Everton, Tottenham and West Brom.

Having won only 5 out of 14 (FOURTEEN) games!!!! Freaking 5 only!!!!

Of the 5 wins, 2 came against sides with 10 players only.

I'm sorry but if that's not the definition of a poor team, then I don't know what is!

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Very telling when you look at it like that. This season will now be about survival - our league form is horrible and somehow we are still in the mix for 4th!

Same shit as last year but I guess throw in WBA instead of N'castle.

Sorry for the long post

TBF the baggies have been pretty immense this season. We should be able to hold them off since they can't even beat Swansea.
Anyway, any news on Kos after he was taken off early yesterday?

Well our next run of games are very winnable, even by our current standards.

Swansea (h)
WBA (h)
Reading (a)
Wigan (a)
West Ham (h)

No game is easy by any means but we should be looking to get a healthy amount of points from those games. We've had tough fixtures so far so hopefully we come to the party.

As for Kos, Wenger said 3 weeks. It's unfortunate because he was just getting back to his best =/

Our passing was something else yesterday.

Our wingers/ crossing was bad as well.

Poor Giroud was on an island.

I agree completely, Nitey.

I'm already weary about Swansea.
I'll be honest, I haven't kept completely up to date with their recent form, but Laudrup is a pretty good manager, and Swansea can turn on the style when they really need to. I'm not too confident about that [tomorrow's] game at least.

They beat WBA 3-1 or something the past weekend, and we all know that WBA been very decent so far. So they are definitely coming into the game with a ton of confidence. Something I think we lack.

Make that 5 wins in 15 games, 2 against 10 man teams. 4 losses in 15, 2 at home.

A lot of tension at the club right now, and Wenger is going to get roasted by the press and fans alike. I just hope we don't crumble any further. I struggle to see how we're gonna get into the top 4 unless we dramatically improve as a team.

We have the players to finish 4th and outplay most teams in the league.
Then again, QPR have the players to not be sitting rock bottom of the league.

No urgency is what really irks me. Aside from a 20 min window in the 2nd half we were ridiculously bad

Swansea dominated and deserved to win at least 1-0.

Edit: Oh and, who the hell managed to trick Arsenal into giving Gervinho a contract? We hardly make those 'wenger knows' signings anymore. Santi only came because Malaga needed to sell. Ffs

my biggest problem is the lack of urgency, heart, and fight in the team. Watch almost any other game. even lower teams and see how hard they work. how much it means to them.n Arsenal look feckless, uninterested, and complacement. They look like they're out of ideas before they even start.

Maybe the manager has lost the dressing room? Players have left so easily over the years after Wenger 'made them what they are'. Maybe he just doesn't have that conviction he once had.

I don't know.

But I agree with what you say. It's disheartening to see opposition teams/players show so much heart, drive and determination and they probably get paid half of what a our players are 'earning'

If we cannot put ourselves in a strong position at the end of the month, when you consider our fixtures for December, then it will be extremely tough for us in the 2nd half of the season. No matter what happens in January.

At least we still have the Champions League. :-|

Who are we facing in the next round?

I wanna see me some Rosicky.

I just read the chairman had a heart attack following a bout of pneumonia.

He is having a good recovery.

I think Rosicky will start tonight. We're taking a young squad apparently. I agree with that decision as we're already qualified and finishing 1st or 2nd shouldn't mean a whole lot cos you can meet Real Madrid finishing 1st or Barca finishing 2nd :lol:. Besides, the our key players could do with a breather

Not sure when the draw is for the next round ties

Could have been 5 nil. I'm shocked we didn't score from open play - we missed some sitters for sure. A bit gutted we got a pen from Caz's dive ;/, silly Spaniard. Though their player dived just as bad in the closing stages in the box, but the ref didn't fall for it.

It's no surprise that when our midfield comes to the party that we look much more assured. I hope this isn't a one off and we continue playing this kind of football. Best general play since that international break. Since then we've only gotten 2 victories against sides with 10 men but today we played some lovely stuff.

Wilshere man of the match for me. When he moved into the AM role after Caz went off he was dictating the game, and played very well before too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9m3P2TCMAEQ_19.jpg:large

Enjoy it. Prepare for the media shitstorm for the dive :lol:

I assume you guys will label yourselves a bunch of cheats etc after the abuse we got about Young last season, atleast he waits for contact. ;)

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Originally Posted by yourmumsface17

I assume you guys will label yourselves a bunch of cheats etc after the abuse we got about Young last season, atleast he waits for contact. ;)

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Cazorla made a bad dive. Young is a little bitch.

Those Young incidents must really have stung if it's got you coming into a thread you never come into :D

Sadly, there's a lot of divers in the league currently. Serial-divers, that is. Young, Bale, Saurez. Sucks.

Not to mention players like Rooney and Gerrard that have dived a lot too. Can't blame the refs anymore, players need to kick it out

I call for retroactive bans. Hopefully those come with the appropriate pay withheld. 1 or two 2 game bans.

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Originally Posted by Nitey

Those Young incidents must really have stung if it's got you coming into a thread you never come into :D

Sadly, there's a lot of divers in the league currently. Serial-divers, that is. Young, Bale, Saurez. Sucks.

Not to mention players like Rooney and Gerrard that have dived a lot too. Can't blame the refs anymore, players need to kick it out

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Probably the biggest reason why the sport itself is so demonised.

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Originally Posted by DINAMO788

I call for retroactive bans. Hopefully those come with the appropriate pay withheld. 1 or two 2 game bans.

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They fuck up enough with retroactive punishment for bannable offenses, and you want to extend that?

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Originally Posted by Nitey

Those Young incidents must really have stung if it's got you coming into a thread you never come into :D

Sadly, there's a lot of divers in the league currently. Serial-divers, that is. Young, Bale, Saurez. Sucks.

Not to mention players like Rooney and Gerrard that have dived a lot too. Can't blame the refs anymore, players need to kick it out

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To be fair Suarez has been well behaved since Stoke. Pretty much realized he's never gonna get a pen even when he's fouled.

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Originally Posted by Shibby

They fuck up enough with retroactive punishment for bannable offenses, and you want to extend that?



To be fair Suarez has been well behaved since Stoke. Pretty much realized he's never gonna get a pen even when he's fouled.

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Yeah, if its a clear dive like Santi's, then I want retroactive bans. For contestable dives, there wont be any such thing. But Santi's dive is indefensible.

I don't think there should be bans. For repeat offenders maybe, but fines would be good.