This isn't even a rumor...next.
This isn't even a rumor...next.
They way you fight the decrease in "initial" sales is pretty simple really. You offer pre-order bonuses and exclusive content. Those that buy say in the first month or whatever will get stuff that if you wait won't be free or whatever if you purchase later. You may even say add a vita version or something to get those early sales but you heavily ensentivise early or day 1 purchases....basically those pre-order bonuses you see...just perhaps beefed up. You always have your hardcore day 1 fans...but to get others you give them something special to buy the retail version or buy it early...exclusive access or something. Then those that purchase later you perhaps don't give that offer to....and then you lower prices as you sell to those late adopters. You can still be very profitable even if you eliminate the second hand market for the gamer.
What you will definately see....is prices drop quicker because yes...initial sales will dry up quickly. What I see is everyone going to some sort of an activation code or something....a small developers fee to reactivate games so they get some sort of recoup for the game. The only thing saving this gen with these second hand games has been basically the dlc that developers have still been able to recoup from the second hand gamers....without it...man I would hate to see how many studios would close.
I do agree that if one console allows second hand games and one doesn't....it would be a massacre and it wouldn't take long for the other to change their stance. That said....I would be SHOCKED if either company did this on a total ban second hand games level...I think they will do access passes or some other form of it though.
These companies can charge less now but they don't. I assume it's because retailers have to sell the same games for $60 with whatever deal they have worked out behind the scenes. But lets look at it from a situation that no longer involves the retailers. Rainbow 6 vegas is out of print but it's found on psn. The game is so dated compared to other games released this gen. But that doesn't stop Ubisoft from charging $20. That game shouldn't cost any more than $10 right now. That goes for some ps2 games too. I can't comment on the prices found on xbox live titles(I never been in the online store looking around before)
I have no faith at all that these companies will pass on the savings from cutting out the middle man. Then they'd be making the same amount of profit which I'm sure they would rather put into their pockets. They already complained about next gen raising the cost of development. They aren't going to want to sell their games for cheaper. EA already stated that they want to sell games for $70.
I have a few games that I bought used. Most are out of print and not on psn. Those titles would have never been in my console if I had to buy them new. They simply weren't worth the full price or even the "greatest hits" price drop($30). Those titles are now out of print.
maybe this will force Devs to focus on quality IPs and A+ titles... if used games are no longer an option and gamers are force to be wiser about what they spend money on....
that, or, Devs are just gonna make a bunch of FPS that they know will sell well.
either way it's bad for gamers.
I still don't get how preowned kills game companies. This logic seems inline with the Music/movie industry's (and gaming) logic for measuring "lost sales". As in, pretty much BS propaganda.
But hey, I'm not the one with an MBA in brainwashing people to endlessly give me money...
Yes there's a blood sucking middle man in-between, and the amount they effectively tax you for the privilege is the real problem for consumers. But this is not lost sales for publishers, sooner they realise that the better.
Frankly if it weren't for trade ins- I would have bought several new games recently. They were all bought with trade in's.
So who's going to be cutting who's throat again?
And let's out this hypothetical out here:
Assume you own the nextbox and ps4. Nextbox does t support used and ps4 does. Which console will you buy games for? That's an easy one for me, the ps4. That means the 720 will be relegated to an exclusives only machine and MS is going to see a significant drop in licensing fees.
Lets assume for example, out of that 3.4 million sales, 800k of them were sold via trade in's of other games, that users has sold.
By removing that market, they may well end up loosing 800k in sales, regardless, as people did not, want or have the money to buy the game brand new.
and as i mentioned above if MS didn't allow used but Sony did, I would buy for PS4 no matter how much better the 720 version is. I tend to buy whatever platform performs best on but this would completely change that.
So publishers, if you want to kill off used game sales because you don't get a slice of the pie, why don't you let us sell our games back to YOU? Don't like what consumers are doing, give them a better alternative
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against capitalism but I'm pointing out that there could be other unintended consequences. Especially if you "know a guy" that knows what the print runs are. I guarantee if you wanted that information you could get it.
Xenoblade in the US is already going for $100 and it was selling for $50 new just 5 months ago. Now it's sold out and ebay is the only place you can get it. Imagine if the Wii didnt play used.
This brings another thought to mind. I tend to leave games sealed until I get to them. If the no used games thing happens, I could see myself delaying even playing anything (no matter how good it is) if I think it had the potential to become valuable.
@admartian-Almost pissed myself laughing at your new avatar. +rep
+rep for you as well Cyn for the great idea.
Like a couple have said they won't buy games at full price because of the fact that it's not always easy dishing out $60 or what ever the standard is where others live all the time. Used games go away people are definitely going to be more conscious about how many games they buy a year. As Rad said he would wait it out until the price drops which I'm sure many would do. This is hurting the devs bottom line because they don't make as much off the sale.
Not to mention companies like Best Buy and Gamestop that have trade in programs that is a key part of their game sales will be hurt some kind of bad. I'm sure there would be some kind of compromise to meet at the middle and allow the studios to be payed royalties. That way the companies do take a little hit but they get to keep their business going and the devs make their money off the titles that they have been stressing for years now.
I only look for used games when I can't find a new copy of a game I am looking for. Other than that, I don't see why people buy used games because the difference in price isn't that big. You pay $5 dollars less for a used game with GameStop and I've seen price tags on used games more than the price of a new game (same title.)
Though if the difference is $5-$10, who cares. But generally the difference can be at least $10, up to $20.