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  1. [QUOTE=TAZ427;6364510]But I ask you, for $400 can...

    I agree with this. I don't think I've ever claimed high end PC gaming scales well per dollar spend. I don't have a clear way to quaintify that, but I'm happy to concede that it doesn't.


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  2. Lets hug.

    Lets hug.
  3. Look, this is actually quite simple. I like the...

    Look, this is actually quite simple. I like the best looking graphics, at high resolution. I'm a graphics wh0re. The only platform that delivers that to me is my high end gaming PC. I'm able to...
  4. I don't think you're quite following the argument...

    I don't think you're quite following the argument I'm making here. We both agree that theoretical PC power far exceeds real world and theoretical PS4 power. What I'm also claiming is that the gap...
  5. Again, my point is that in the past you could...

    Again, my point is that in the past you could expect, at least in the beginning of a new generation's life cycle, that optimization would keep the consoles reasonably competitive with high end PC...
  6. Now and on-going. I understand how you're...

    Now and on-going.



    I understand how you're arriving at a disagreement based on the past. Part of what I'm claiming is that this most recent generation is different from the past. First, the...
  7. Well, let's start with this. Here's my major...

    Well, let's start with this. Here's my major claim:

    The real world performance difference between high end PC hardware is already too great to be made up by optimizations on the consoles.

    So,...
  8. No, I'm obviously not even speaking to your...

    No, I'm obviously not even speaking to your points. But, here, let me make this clear for you.



    True.



    True.
  9. You're certainty is convincing. Selling my 4K...

    You're certainty is convincing. Selling my 4K TVs and monitors.
  10. Ok, well, I don't even....

    Ok, well, I don't even....
  11. Well, I'm talking both theoretical and real...

    Well, I'm talking both theoretical and real world. Even granting that 10tflops isn't used efficiently on a high end PC (and it mostly isn't), it's just really unlikely that any amount of...
  12. The PS4's power/performance has been pretty well...

    The PS4's power/performance has been pretty well documented at this point, and it shouldn't be difficult to find plenty of sources for that. I'm mostly a PC gamer, but I do own a PS4. It's not...
  13. Graphics aside, developers put out some fantastic...

    Graphics aside, developers put out some fantastic games on Playstation, and since I'm spending more than the cost of a PS4 on 2nd and 3rd graphics cards alone, I really don't have any excuse to miss...
  14. Haha, yes, I got it specifically for this...

    Haha, yes, I got it specifically for this announcement. I bought it last Friday and picked up Infamous and Killzone. No question, it's a very nice gaming system for the price. Games look really...
  15. Well damn...aaaaaaaaaaand I just bought a PS4. ...

    Well damn...aaaaaaaaaaand I just bought a PS4. Don't tell my masterrace friends.
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    Please explain.

    Please explain.
  17. Thankfully, the devices are similar enough that...

    Thankfully, the devices are similar enough that hopefully cross-platform development is easy, which I think it will be. This is also aided by the similarities in the systems powering the experiences...
  18. Sony's head mounted display is probably sugestive...

    Sony's head mounted display is probably sugestive of what to expect from Sony's VR headset. They have most of the components already and 720p per eye puts the total pixel count at a little under a...
  19. Hopefully you weren't waiting for confirmation...

    Hopefully you weren't waiting for confirmation that PCs can go well over 1080p and have the highest framerates...;)
  20. I'm sure VR will come to the consoles. I'm sure...

    I'm sure VR will come to the consoles. I'm sure there will be some cool games to take advantage of it. The unfortunate fact, however, is that the consoles simply aren't powerful enough to pull off...
  21. Have you played around with an Oculus Rift? I...

    Have you played around with an Oculus Rift? I have one and Half Life 2 is an absolutely amazing, paradigm shifting, experience in the Rift, and it's clearly not an on rails (roller coaster style)...
  22. Well, I pick Steam. Not steam.

    Well, I pick Steam. Not steam.
  23. I think it's incorrect to talk about the steam...

    I think it's incorrect to talk about the steam machine. There isn't a steam machine. There are lots of them. And in a sense, anyone can make one. But more to the point, no, I don't think Steam...
  24. Oh, I'm not expecting it. Can't say I care much...

    Oh, I'm not expecting it. Can't say I care much for the new face, but the environment and atmospheric work looks really good.
  25. It doesn't react more realisticly in the new...

    It doesn't react more realisticly in the new version. If anything, it's more realistic on the PC...and a total waste of resources. That's my point. It's more conservative in the DE version, and...
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