PS3 failed in 2007: A look of what went wrong with Sony.

[Saigon]

I had ro post this because i did not agree with this...

http://elementops.wordpress.com/2007...ong-with-sony/

Let’s face the reality. Even if a lot of people doesn’t want to admit it. they have been disappointed more than once by the poor performance of the latest Sony console. 2007 can be easily considered as the worst year for the PlayStation brand. The sales are depressing, Sony “Father” Ken Kutaragi got kicked out from the company, all the “hits” have been smashed by the critics and media, let’s take a look of why the 2007 is something that no PS fan would like to remember.
Lair:

Average ratio: 54/100
# copies sold: 163k in 13 weeks.
Heavenly Sword:

Average ratio: 79/100
# copies sold: 212k in 11 weeks.
Loco Roco Cocoreccho:

Average ratio: 71/100
# copies sold: N/A
Folklore:

Average ratio: 74/100
# copies sold: 66k in 7 weeks.
Ratchet & Clank Future:

Average ratio: 89/100
# copies sold: 180k in 5 weeks.
Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune:

Average ratio: 89/100
# copies sold: 75k in debut week.
The Eye of Judgment:

Average ratio: 74/100
# copies sold: 72k in 5 weeks.
Warhawk:

Average ratio: 84/100
# copies sold: 166k in 13 weeks (bundle version).

As everybody can see, most, if not all of the PS3 first-party games have failed in some way. Let’s take for example Lair, arguably the biggest disappointmend of the year, which got a mediocre average ratio of 54/100 and basically bombed in retailers selling only 163k in 13 weeks. Heavenly Sword, portrayed numerous times by Sony like one of the first “next-gen” experiences, and an AAA game. What was the result? a game with a decent average of 79/100 wich also bombed in retailers selling barely 210k. Folklore, probably nobody was expecting something really big from this game, and that’s reflected in the sales; 66k in more than one month.

Ok, probably the reason of why those games are selling so poor it’s because people consider them mediocre. But, what’s wrong with the Sony consumer? Even the highest rated games of the console have sold really low numbers, take for example the Imsomniac game; Ratchet & Clank future. This one, being the highest rated game of the PS3 only sold around 200k in more than 4 weeks. Also, Uncharted Drake’s Fortune debuted with an inexcusable 75k.
Those 2 games are below the average of what Metacritic considers an AAA title, but, even if they don’t are high-quality software, they are by no means bad games. So what’s wrong with the sales? Publicity? No. Every month you see gigantic advertisments for PS3 games in popular American magazines such as MAD, Electronic Gaming Monthly, Playboy, Game Informer, etc. and the sales are still disappointing.

The same happens with the hardware sales. Honestly, I don’t believe that 5.000.000 around the world in 1 year is something to be proud of. Not even the reduced prices are working well for the PS3 in America, where the Microsoft console it’s outselling the PS3 by a considerable margin. Nintendo Wii, a console that’s being sold only in bundles that cost more than the PS3 is selling incredible well too. (Wal-Mart). So there’s no excuse for Sony.

Sony, you have 2 rivals that get exclusive triple A games frequently, and are selling software in amazing rates. What’s wrong with you? Do you wanna be considered a failure such as the Sega Dreamcast? or the Atari Jaguar? If you don’t wanna end like one of those consoles, you better have to start making some quality software and get back your audience that probably is getting more fun with the competition.

Thanks to Metacritic for the averages and the NPD & VGChartz for the sales.

[Shadowfyre]

I obviously don't agree with this, also- how could anyone be persuaded to believe this person's opinion if they can't even use proper English?

[Stoffinator]

It failed? lol, sure ok, I believe that.

[MR_T]

i dont know if them figures are true but the rest of the read has little or no truth in it imo. infact i didnt into account after i read that the wii brings out AAA games frequently, i have 1 and the games line up is hardly astounding.
and who can call the dreamcast a failure, yes it was segas demise but it was in no way a failure. 1 of my top systems of all time

[SnakeDevil]

I don't really see whats so bad about his article [reveal]apart from them using VGChartz as a source[/reveal]

The PS3 simply hasn't had enough AAA games this year and the ones that have been good, simply haven't sold well.

*Awaits teh flamez*

[One-Shot]

Yes the ps3 did fail anyone who doesnt see that needs to look at some sales charts. 2008 does seem to be a lot brighter though I do hope sony doesnt just rely on killzone and mgs.

[kuku]

Unfortunately those figures are inaccurate, and I think it's an offense on this forums and some other game forums to list vgchartz.

WH we know has over 500k combined sold from our online stat list.

[Tyrien]

PS3 didn't fail, that's actually amusing.

Saying it failed is implying it's not around anymore.

[surtur]

nice list of great games i think that proves the opposite and that is that Sony did perfectly fin this year.

[kidd0218]

Like I give a crap.. People are so impatient.. o0o wow the ps3 only been out for a year, it is still in its baby steps, wait for the games that actually will have a hit before you say that it is failing already like the dreamcast. MGS4,GTA,GT and others.. just wait geez

[RedOrb_Collector]

I've already accepted that Sony won't be winning this gen.

I don't really care much anymore.

I'm just going to enjoy what I can, that said I still like the PS3 the most of the 3 consoles.

[Cloak]

you my friend are amusing. thanks for the entertainment. join a circus.

[Saigon]

sorry for posting this...this article...blog...whatever...shows what hate some people have towards sony...anything to discredit their stature...i don't think tey will fail this generation...this is only their first year with this console...which means nothing...just as all the analyst have been saying since the ps3 launched...2008/2009 will define this console...

[GunTeng]

Wait a second.
This guy is basing the failures off what? Poor sales? And he says this is where SONY went wrong?

Lets get this straight.....just so that we dont get this confused.

He is saying SONY went wrong? becuase their games didnt sell well?

Now lets wonder..why did they not sell well?
Oh...thank you ...he used the ratings for his argument.

now who rated these games?
YES!...Thankyou. The ****ed media with that enormous chip on their shoulder.
It has already been proven that many ( if not all) reviews to date for the PS3 are absolutely untrustworthy.
So if this guy uses it as the basis of his argument, then it cannot be taken as fact.

They only way SONy went wrong with these games is that they didnt grease the palm of the ****ed corrupt reviewers & their sites.
Give them the reviews they unjustly gave other games & the story would be entirely different.

[Tetsu]

I have a couple of posts in the "If you want a system that will stand the test of time then buy PS3" and "Sony needs to deliver next year, no exceptions" threads. They're from Sony financial reports dated Oct 25th which indicate that the Games Division experienced sales growth of almost 43%, thanks mostly to the PS3.

Let the bloggers and posters naysaying be shown as ninnies.

[kingsam]

It failed by large numbers of high expectations, and it failed sales wise, but it still had 3 really top tier titles albiet one of them being multiplayer only

[Kagari]

Riight, because you know, games like Uncharted, Ratchet, Eye of Judgment, Heavenly Sword and Folklore were such bad games.

From what I've seen all of those games I listed are selling just fine.

[Argoth]

Oh someone better close this fast! *gets in flame suit, picks up flame shield and jumps into flame bunker*

I do not see this going anywhere but way way down....Who in their right mind would post something like this from some fanboy's blog in here?

At least in before the lock.

[seebs]

He is saying SONY went wrong? becuase their games didnt sell well?

Yes.

Now lets wonder..why did they not sell well?
Oh...thank you ...he used the ratings for his argument.

You have already misunderstood his argument.

R&C got reviewed very well. It still sold poorly.

YES!...Thankyou. The ****ed media with that enormous chip on their shoulder.
It has already been proven that many ( if not all) reviews to date for the PS3 are absolutely untrustworthy.

No, it's been asserted by bitter and jealous fanboys. I've seen no evidence at all of this alleged bias or "chip on their shoulder". The games are sorta rough, which is exactly what you'd expect in the first year from a console with a revolutionary architecture.

They only way SONy went wrong with these games is that they didnt grease the palm of the ****ed corrupt reviewers & their sites.
Give them the reviews they unjustly gave other games & the story would be entirely different.

Not really. Reviews don't even always impact sales that much; a lot of gamers don't even pay that much attention to them!

The biggest problem is a small installed base; that leads directly to lower sales. Add in the large chunk of that installed base who are, the blu-ray fans tell us, interested primarily in a cheap blu-ray player, and not interested in games, and sales are worse still.

The PS3 attach rate is poor. Not utterly dismal, but poor. For it to improve, there have to be more games that are going to appeal to people who weren't fans of a particular series already, and that pull everything together. I tried to play Heavenly Sword at a demo kiosk. It was really pretty looking, but there was no game to it; there were twenty-some guys milling around the screen politely taking turns attacking my character, and it was just sorta dull. Lair, I think, got a bum deal from reviews -- but even granting that I suspect the controls are better than reviewers thought, it seems to have been a bit light on depth and play value.

This hasn't got anything to do with biased reviewers; it's got to do with developers putting their time into learning the system, and not having enough time left to do much with their games. We'll see some great games for the PS3, and I think they'll sell well compared to the machine's installed base -- but that installed base is still gonna be small for a while yet.

[Black F 0 X]

ya it was not near failing just below ecpectations

[kuku]

Yes.



You have already misunderstood his argument.

R&C got reviewed very well. It still sold poorly.



No, it's been asserted by bitter and jealous fanboys. I've seen no evidence at all of this alleged bias or "chip on their shoulder". The games are sorta rough, which is exactly what you'd expect in the first year from a console with a revolutionary architecture.



Not really. Reviews don't even always impact sales that much; a lot of gamers don't even pay that much attention to them!

The biggest problem is a small installed base; that leads directly to lower sales. Add in the large chunk of that installed base who are, the blu-ray fans tell us, interested primarily in a cheap blu-ray player, and not interested in games, and sales are worse still.

The PS3 attach rate is poor. Not utterly dismal, but poor. For it to improve, there have to be more games that are going to appeal to people who weren't fans of a particular series already, and that pull everything together. I tried to play Heavenly Sword at a demo kiosk. It was really pretty looking, but there was no game to it; there were twenty-some guys milling around the screen politely taking turns attacking my character, and it was just sorta dull. Lair, I think, got a bum deal from reviews -- but even granting that I suspect the controls are better than reviewers thought, it seems to have been a bit light on depth and play value.

This hasn't got anything to do with biased reviewers; it's got to do with developers putting their time into learning the system, and not having enough time left to do much with their games. We'll see some great games for the PS3, and I think they'll sell well compared to the machine's installed base -- but that installed base is still gonna be small for a while yet.

Lots of opinions. Almost every 1st party game from Sony never really made a splash at launch date. They just had long legs.

There is a lot of grey area, and to have the audacity to report speculation as fact...

Warhawk has way way more then that install base. You can't fake the online stat sheet in game.

Basically a lot of numbers that are true nor false to make one sound important is the basis of FUD.

[FenrirVII]

Sorry If i come out mean, well.. no.. im not sorry, when youre this Freaking Stupid, YOu deserve to be SPLATERED- First off I wont even bother going into the others- He Cant even Use his own Pathetic Excuse for sources that well (i dont even like the sites, but he cant even use them..ahahaha) Warhawk- Someone obviously Missed out on the Date as well as region, Worldwide Warhawk was projected at 300,000 units.. wait a minute, "WAS?" Ohhhh that was a few months ago.. Please dont post their articles either.. (its probably the exact same for all the other games too btw)- (oh and this guy is not a friend of sources as you can see in the other posted blogs he has no sources.. Im thinking he's just making things up on the go)

On the side note, these forums have gone down, where the hell is the modesty and trust here? Just a Crapload of trolls who say things Bad, i remember 6 months ago, threads were locked on the spot for things that you see in almost Every post nowadays. I guess the other console forums just must be pure **** and the Playstation one ironically has better organization or something >_>

[Saigon]

what people need to understand is that R&C never sold over a million in one month...it sold millions over time...matter of fact most games on the ps2 sold this way...except of corse the block buster games...

[QuickSilverD]

When I clicked on this thread I was expecting some article explaining why the Ps3 hasn't been doing so well, an analysis of what Sony did wrong and what they should have done or should do from now on.

But what do I find instead? some nobody complaining at low sales without giving much of a real opinion.

[rizvidx86]

i think ur mom bought all dos game