The Manchester United Thread

[LC77]

I would say Kagawa was a really big signing. Some fans seems to think we we're the only one in for him - that wasn't the case. Getting Kagawa was a big accomplishment.

It's hard to argue that the transfer policy of Chelsea and City is healthy long-term. It is easy to see their signings over the years as good value short term but taking a broader perspective that's not the type of deals you'd want your club to make to survive long-term.

I think he is a great signing, but from the outside it looks like he only wanted to join United. So hardly a big accomplishment, same goes for Powell too. I'm just pleased the two players signed so far chose to join the club. After the Hazard nonsene, footballers had begun to turn my stomach even more than usual.

As the squad stands I think they'll win the PL, but are they any closer in Europe?

One thing that sticks out in the Fergie statement,

"My decisions and beliefs are not based around what is best for my personal financial gain.

"That is an accusation that insults me. If that was the case I would have left Old Trafford a long time ago.

In that little part, even he himself thinks United do not pay him enough.

Funny how the Glazers seem to be the highest paid players at the club, for doing diddly squat.

[three3-times]

I would say Kagawa was a really big signing. Some fans seems to think we we're the only one in for him - that wasn't the case. Getting Kagawa was a big accomplishment.

It's hard to argue that the transfer policy of Chelsea and City is healthy long-term. It is easy to see their signings over the years as good value short term but taking a broader perspective that's not the type of deals you'd want your club to make to survive long-term.

Big signing? Your kidding me right. he was blatantly our 2nd and cheaper option. Defo not big accomplishment in my eyes.

With the players that chelski are signing, they are all young, so cant really say they are a short term option. i wouldve loved some of their signings.

granted we are TRYING to get more players in, but i bet will start away at everton with the team with have now......

[Firefox]

@bewaresuckers Are you serious? Dc89 and three-three times constantly ignore your rule breaking in this thread. (Quite a few posts bad enough they were deleted) He's been on this thread for ages and no one is going to block him except you.

DC brings something to this thread but everytime I see you all I see are insults towards other members... I can't remember what you ever posted here that was constructive in any way.

Stop being so serious and insulting. I'm surprised DC or three three times haven't done anything about your posts.

[dc89]

I'm at work just checking in! 33X has done what was needed, how many chances is the guy going to need?

Yeah, sometimes I go over the top with the anti-United stuff. But most of the time I back up what I am saying with an opinion and if you can't handle it you might just need to take a look at yourself.

[StaticAge]

The Chevy deal has been confirmed to be worth $559 million over the seven years.

That's a lot

[Danny2304]

You'll regret selling Pogba I'm telling ya.

[Cyn]

I would say Kagawa was a really big signing. Some fans seems to think we we're the only one in for him - that wasn't the case. Getting Kagawa was a big accomplishment.

I think Kagawa is the best signing of the summer so far. Followed by Cazorla for us

Sure Chelsea have bought Hazard but for an eye watering amount of money. He just isn't worth £35m

I will laugh if we get Sahin after you got Kagawa because I think they are the players that the opposite team need(ed) most. Sahin would be the bit of the jigsaw that would win Man U back the league. By a margin too probably

[yourmumsface17]

You'll regret selling Pogba I'm telling ya.

Didn't sell him, he left on a free with a contract expiry got some compo for him I imagine though.

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[Tutankhamun]

Nuri sahin is available on loan and we aint even trying to get him............

yeah, cos carrick and scholes are the way forward ffs

Can you imagine Man United loaning a player from Real Madrid. That would be embarrassing. We're competing with them, it isn't our job to get their players experience.

I think he is a great signing, but from the outside it looks like he only wanted to join United. So hardly a big accomplishment, same goes for Powell too. I'm just pleased the two players signed so far chose to join the club. After the Hazard nonsene, footballers had begun to turn my stomach even more than usual.

As the squad stands I think they'll win the PL, but are they any closer in Europe?

Even if he wanted to join United, you have to imagine there was a lot of pressure in Dortmund to take a bigger fee from, say, Real Madrid. Fergie has said as well the transfer was complicated.

One thing that sticks out in the Fergie statement,



In that little part, even he himself thinks United do not pay him enough.

Funny how the Glazers seem to be the highest paid players at the club, for doing diddly squat.

If you own something you stand to make the most profit from it.

Big signing? Your kidding me right. he was blatantly our 2nd and cheaper option. Defo not big accomplishment in my eyes.

With the players that chelski are signing, they are all young, so cant really say they are a short term option. i wouldve loved some of their signings.

granted we are TRYING to get more players in, but i bet will start away at everton with the team with have now......

I don't buy the notion Kagawa was a second choice signing. Fergie said negotiations took a long time so more than likely they started earlier than what we think. Fergie probably wanted both Kagawa and Hazard but he wasn't going to pay stupid money which is wise.

I guarantee Man United as a club will be in better shape than Chelsea and City in 10-15 years. Doing business the way they do isn't healthy.

I'm at work just checking in! 33X has done what was needed, how many chances is the guy going to need?

Yeah, sometimes I go over the top with the anti-United stuff. But most of the time I back up what I am saying with an opinion and if you can't handle it you might just need to take a look at yourself.

It can get a little repetitive and predictable when a person constantly takes the contrarian view.

I think Kagawa is the best signing of the summer so far. Followed by Cazorla for us

Sure Chelsea have bought Hazard but for an eye watering amount of money. He just isn't worth £35m

I will laugh if we get Sahin after you got Kagawa because I think they are the players that the opposite team need(ed) most. Sahin would be the bit of the jigsaw that would win Man U back the league. By a margin too probably

Yeah. Although, I think Kagawa can help us win the league back. Last season almost all of our players failed to perform on a top level consistently if we can get them to play as well as they can we'll win it. I'm convinced of that. We have enough talent.

[StaticAge]

Lucas deal has been agreed and he's set to have a medical today, and also Van Persie will sign this week according to Fergie's mate Bob Cass - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...nd-signal.html

Let's not forget that for tomorrow's friendly Phelan will take charge as SAF is away on "buisness"

[Tutankhamun]

I'm not sure Fergie is such a good mate with Cass

[dc89]

Daily Mail on RVP - They can't even get this line right.

"The Arsenal striker, thecurrent Footballer of theYear, has been courted byManchester City and InterMilan"

[StaticAge]

Miguel Delaney ‏@MiguelDelaney To ride on the Mail's coattails, Lucas to Manchester United a 'done deal' alright.

He's pretty reliable from what I've seen.

[Tutankhamun]

Guess that means I'll be checking Twitter every five seconds tomorrow

[santinomarella]

Im excited about possibly signing Moura, seems like a player with a bright future. I just hope this doesn't mean the sale of Nani.

I don't really want RVP though, him arriving will push Welbeck and Hernandez down the pecking order which I don't want, could ruin the development of Welbeck as well.

Seems like it will be a crazy few days with rumours flying all over the place.

[StaticAge]

Telegraph are running the same story - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Sao-Paolo.html

[Firefox]

30 million is a massive amount.. the kid must be good. Ronaldo 2.0?

[dc89]

Anderson was meant to be the next big Brazilian star. But he got big in a different way.

It's always a risk signing any player (I know from my own team lol) but £30m on a 19 year old Brazilian is a bigger one! Some of the South American players take a while to adapt to the pace. People said Aguero would take a season to get going in the Premier League, he didn't, but I think that's cause he's played in La Liga. Moura could struggle with the physicality of the game at first, we'll have to wait and see. Could be very interesting though.

[three3-times]

Anderson was meant to be the next big Brazilian star. But he got big in a different way.

It's always a risk signing any player (I know from my own team lol) but £30m on a 19 year old Brazilian is a bigger one! Some of the South American players take a while to adapt to the pace. People said Aguero would take a season to get going in the Premier League, he didn't, but I think that's cause he's played in La Liga. Moura could struggle with the physicality of the game at first, we'll have to wait and see. Could be very interesting though.

i know what your saying dan, but you keep doing this lately, pouring scorn on summit positive! U lot aint even signed anyone yet!

i would rather spend 30mil on a CM who can tackle or even Neymar!! but hey!

[Tutankhamun]

United close on Lucas deal

Sky Sports understands Manchester United are poised to win the race for Brazilian winger Lucas Moura.

United have been chasing the Sao Paulo winger all summer and have already seen one bid rejected for the 19-year-old.

The likes of Inter Milan, Paris Saint Germain and Real Madrid have all been credited with an interest in Moura, but it appears United are in pole position to land the highly-rated starlet.

A fee is believed to have been agreed between United and Sao Paulo and the Old Trafford outfit have been given the green light to hold talks with the player.

Sir Alex Ferguson remained behind from United's pre-season trip to Norway for Sunday's friendly with Valerenga with the reason for his absence thought to be to push through a deal for Moura.

Sky Sports*

Fuck me. We're actually getting him!

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Anyone else watching the game later? Streams here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?...35&part=sports

[three3-times]

dont think there was any doubt that we were getting him, but £30mil, plus £20mil for RVP and still no CM or LB signed............? not complaining but money could be spent in other areas.

and moura isnt a pure winger guys, he can play anywhere across the front.

[jj03]

lotta cash for a 19 year old. been following this via twitter and red cafe for a long time...youtube video's of moura reveal a good player but i'm not sure we will get our moneys worth outta him...big risk...as for rvp...not arsed if we don't get him.

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[dc89]

Brazilian media, in particular Globo Esporte (the Brazilian equivalent of the BBC) say Moura is set to join PSG in a deal worth €38m.

[three3-times]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...cas-Moura.html

seems like we missed out yet again, its ok, we got kagawa and powell...........

[Tutankhamun]

#MUFC's Darren Fletcher to meet up & train with Scotland next week, coach Craig Levein has announced

@stevenwyeth

Brilliant.