Since, as you said, a picture doesn't tell the story.
What a $#@! Shelvey is, winning the ball, getting two footed, and not laying on the ground crying like a $#@! about it, how dare he.
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That gif shows me that firstly, Evans gets to the ball first. Secondly Evans left foot is no where near Shelvey, thirdly Evans goes into the tackle with his studs down, it's a passing motion, not a studing motion.
Unlike Shelvey who goes in with his studs up.
Anyway I am not here to point score, but that's my interpretation of the GIF.
No, I said "not" crying like a $#@!. Not implying anything about Evans.
Listen, I'm not saying Evans wasn't fouled. He was. I'm just adding to the "Evans should have seen red too" bit.
Have you missed the part where Evans leaves the ground with 2 feet and goes into Shelvey?
Have you missed all the clamor that was in this thread when Kompany got sent off last season when he did much less than Evans there?
Doesn't matter if he "gets him" or not, the intent was there. By rule, Evans should see red.
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They didn't even show the Fergie interview on SS20...
How are you calling Shelvey's tackle two footed? His left leg is bent behind him until the end.
Yes Evans legs are together, both of them, two footed, studs forward.
Shelvey's is studs forward, but one foot.
Shelvey makes a kicking motion at the ball, Evans makes a lunging motion.
Last edited by Shibby; 09-23-2012 at 16:51.
I'd love to go to Anfield to hear the fans signing you'll never walk alone, great atmosphere!!
One of a few grounds I'd love to go to Nou camp as well.20...
Evans dives in after the ball with both feet and wins it, Shelvey dives in legs all over the place, OK yep might have not been fully 2 footed but that doesn't change anything. He dives in, right leg into Evans leg, could have potentially caused a very serious injury.
IIRC, Kompany also won the ball when he was sent off. With dangerous play, winning the ball is kind of thrown out the window, especially when you don't win it convincingly, even in the slow-mo gif, their feet touch the ball almost simultaneously, with Evans getting there a moment before.
Go and watch the Kompnay Challenge, its a lot different than Evans and much more dangerous.
I have watched it, and the only difference is that Nani was already in possession when he slid in.
I'd say in a 50-50 situation it's more dangerous.
Evans left foot is absolutely no where near Shelvey, infact that is the leg where Shelveys studs are studing into.
Evans right foot is at the side, he goes in tough, but fair and he wins the ball. Shelvey went in with little control and was reckless with his studs raised. Regardless Shelvey should have been booked before that when he committed a horrible challenge on Rafael. (It might have been Valencia)
It's amazing how people can have such different views of something they both see, an argument against video technology in football?
End of the day; Go in with your studs up and you run the risk of being sent off. The refs don't have the benefit of Kremlinology on so-so quality GIF's.Other opinions are available.
I'm talking about the manor in which Kompany and Shelvey have dived in, resembles that of a long jumper, you often see a player get in trouble for these style of lunges. The difference I see with those challenges and Evans' one, is that Evans dives in feet together and goes straight to the ball, he seems more in control of his lunge and where his boots will end up and as opposed to a wild lunge.
It would be good if we got to hear from referee's after the game, it might well be a case that he sent just Shelvey off as the lunge make big contact with Evans leg.
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You could argue both should of been sent off20...
That's the problem. "Dives in feet together" is the same thing as "two-footed lunge", just trying to ease the impact of the words with different rhetoric.
Once again, I'm not defending Shelvey's tackle. I was only defending that one of you called it "two footed" when it wasnt.
The penalty incident was both a push and the Liverpool's players leg caught Valencia high on Valencia's leg. . The player himself didn't complain that tells you all you need to know about that incident.Other opinions are available.
Yeah it looked a penalty in real time and in the replays. Like T said as well Johnson didn't complain, protest..20...
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No using the "just a few" excuse there, either. That's pretty much the entire section. Bunch of pussies too. Wait until everyone and their manager who scolded them leaves.
If it helps a LFC fan was arrested for pretending to be an aeroplane... I can't tell how many people are singing it, but it's obviously stupid to sing.
In regards to the MUFC fans today, during the game they were ace, outsung the Kop for most of it.
I like how you disapear for long periods until you find something online that suits your team I might go find a load of crap and post it in your thread, spread the love.
EDIT: Also I love how there are certain people here who seem to think Sky support Man United, yet they are the one have been posting tweets and videos all evening of United fans "not respecting" the Hillsborough tribute, I thought they were fine during the actual thing, they just sang above Never walk alone after (Which is what you guys do every game) atleast that's what I saw.
Why haven't Sky posted tweets about LFC fans booing a player who was racially abused... :P but that's a whole new debate that I do not want to go into.
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