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    Its our lack of fight which is very worrying also.

    moyes out

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    I do wish people would stop comparing Fergie to Moyes. He came down from Scotland after beating the big two to the title and won a European trophy. He also inherited a club with a drinking and gambling culture. Moyes arrived after winning nowt and inherited the PL champions and look what he's doing with them.

    Martinez inherited the Moyes squad and look what he's doing with them. Is it possible Moyes isn't the manager Fergie believed he was, or was he always the budget option the Glazers wanted?

    Come the end of this season what if City have won the league, Liverpool finish in the top four and even worse Everton finish above United. Will the Glazer clan still give him time, but more importantly will the fans?

    The perverse side of me hopes United finish outside of any European places and that way, maybe the tight wads will finally spend massively in the summer. They only have to look down the road to see what investment in the squad can do.

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    The fact that he's inherited PL-winning squad is wholly true, but still a tad misleading in a sense. Fans and pundits alike have consistently lambasted the squad for the last three or so seasons. Fergie's presence and stature, and knowing his players well, made them overachieve. Last season, there was no viable challenge from anyone and RvP's goals masked many performances that left a lot to be desired for. This team's been slowly stagnating at its core for a good while and I'm surprised that Fergie didn't rectify that before he left Old Trafford. Anyone one and their dog would know United's been crying out for midfield investment.

    And while Fergie did inherent that drinkin'/gamblin' culture, you've got to be mindful that it was the same across the board. And Atkinson did achieve a few very decent finishes in division 1, too. It wasn't like he was getting a squad that was languishing in the lower tiers.

    Everton's form has been down to a lot of factors and I'll take nothing from Martinez, but - there's reasons - none of which are the fault of Moyes' managerial ability - that have caused Everton's surge this season. Firstly, Coleman's matured a lot, and that only comes with experience and time. He's simply built upon what Moyes did with him, and that's a natural progression. The acquisition of Barry on loan has released any defensive responsibility that Barkley had, and as a result (much like the point about maturing with Coleman) he's flourished in that more free, attacking role. Lukaku's an incredible striker, so that loan doesn't really need a point. Martinez has benefitted a lot from timing; from players maturing to the ability to get certain players on loan.

    No matter what the outcome of league is by the end of the season, Moyes will not be leaving. That is, if the decision lies squarely in the board room of directors. The Glazers have bought into what Fergie, Charlton etc have stressed about giving manager's time and as a result there won't be hasty decisions.
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    Quite right. Moyes ain't goin nowhere. The guy has to have time...in a couple of seasons the squad will have changed and we will be challenging once again. Patience.

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    Rumors are we're after Cavani in the summer. I'd $#@!ing love that. Rooney behind RVP and Cavani would make my $#@! hard. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...medium=twitter
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    As good as Cavani is that would not solve United problems.

    Fiest they need Champions league football to attract these players and gain revenue. Secondly I believe RVP or Rooney will leave in the summer.

    BUT as a football fan and what I see, United have way bigger problems than signing a striker.

    Surprised Barca don't go for De Gea if you don't get CL footy. They're after Ter Stegen instead as Valdes is most likely Monaco bound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jj03 View Post
    Quite right. Moyes ain't goin nowhere. The guy has to have time...in a couple of seasons the squad will have changed and we will be challenging once again. Patience.
    i wish he would die, i hate the average too bob $#@! $#@!.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tutankhamun View Post
    Rumors are we're after Cavani in the summer. I'd $#@!ing love that. Rooney behind RVP and Cavani would make my $#@! hard. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...medium=twitter
    never gonna happen, not after one season at monaco.

    Reus, shaw, idaky, pogba, vidal and one CB and id be happy

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    Huge rumours saying weve bid 37 mil for mata, HUGE rumours, but we've denied it.

    No need for him, we have kagawa who is $#@! and Adnan

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    It's kinda' like the Ozil situation... if a player of that caliber becomes available you buy and you make room. He is a bit of a difficult fit, though. And I don't think there's much to the rumour.

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    [QUOTE=three3-times;6287216]i wish he would die, i hate the average too bob $#@! $#@!.

    If that happens and he does die, we will end up with sam $#@!in allerdyce...it will be your fault..then we will be proper $#@!ed...

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    i wish he would die, i hate the average too bob $#@! $#@!.

    If that happens and he does die, we will end up with sam $#@!in allerdyce...it will be your fault..then we will be proper $#@!ed...
    looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!

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    Obviously if you can get Mata you'll take him. Great creative player proven himself in the PL. But it would mean the end of Kagawa but Moyes doesn't seem to rate Kagawa anyway.
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    I will be $#@!in amazed if we get mata..especially if that $#@!er woodward has a hand..

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    Sky Sources are reporting that Chelski are willing to listen to offers, but United haven't made anything. Won't believe it until I see it.

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    Rumours about Dante going around, Don't know why we should sign a 30 years old defender.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...8#.Ut6_ztJBtD8

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    Just put Jones/Evans as the partnership 'til the end of the season. Need a bit of continuity and that's our best pairing in my eyes.

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    Bild says juan mata has aked for a move to united...

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    Telegraph are reporting that he won't be able to leave until he tells Mourinho wants to go to United or something to that effect - cost-cutting measure since it's a transfer request and they won't have to pay the loyalty bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shockwave View Post
    Telegraph are reporting that he won't be able to leave until he tells Mourinho wants to go to United or something to that effect - cost-cutting measure since it's a transfer request and they won't have to pay the loyalty bonus.
    Thats not ogden reporting that is it?

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    Nah, Matt Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdou23 View Post
    Rumours about Dante going around, Don't know why we should sign a 30 years old defender.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...8#.Ut6_ztJBtD8
    Rather try to get Hummels in the summer.

    Will be very interesting to see the Mata story develop.
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    Do not want Dante one iota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tutankhamun View Post
    Rather try to get Hummels in the summer.

    Will be very interesting to see the Mata story develop.
    Subotic is even better, and yeah Mata is better than Kagawa no doubt about that, but still needs a CM.

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    Hummels has had a poor year in comparison to 2012. Subotic has been far better, but is still injured.

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