PS3 ram

**gaming ultima** · 02-18-2004

how much RAM (main memory) do you think the ps3 should have and how much do you think it will have?
i think it will hav 256MB but i hope for 512MB so developers dont have much restriction and let them do what they want.
oh and in case u didnt know it will be using XDR RAM which in short is very advanced and operates at 3.2GHz though RAMBUS are doing a 6.4GHz version which it is most likely the ps3 will use to have massive memory bandwidths. any thoughts on this?

**Blake** · 02-18-2004

Im pulling for 512. If they go this route I hope Sony keeps it secret as M$ want's to counter every move they make. 256 wont be bad either though...

**gaming ultima** · 02-18-2004

yea if u ask me sony should say 128 in public and 256 to developers who r developing the first ps3 titles (they wont need more then 256 anyway) and hav 256 in the prototypes but really put 512 in it and then the xbox next might end up with half the amount then the ps3 has, that is if the rumours are true that microsoft are waiting to see wot sony r doing before they finalise the xbox next specs. thats sooo dumb because sony could play them right into a trap but sony hav to be careful that microsoft arnt trying to get sony into a trap.

**Blake** · 02-18-2004

Dont see how M$ could set a trap. Sony could very well keep things secret up untill launch...and you know the Xbox Next is expected to release first. Thus they just have to put something in and go with it.

**gaming ultima** · 02-18-2004

true true but what im saying is no matter how much u or i think that the ps3 will be better dont underestimate microsoft even if they are a shit company that justs copies every1 elce

**Blake** · 02-18-2004

Im not stating the PS3 is going to better, I wasnt aware that was where the conversation was going. I am however stating if Sony wants to have an edge then it's best that they keep their ideas under wraps if the route M$ is taking is for real. I dont think Microsoft is sh*t either...they're crooked if anything, that's why I have a bitter taste for them in my mouth. And just to further the PS3 Xbox:N debate, the two consoles will be neck and neck concerning overall power as far as Im concerned.

**gaming ultima** · 02-18-2004

i rather not say that as far as im concerned the 2 console will be....
as i dont want a fool made out of me when they do launch
anyway lets keep the console war thing to a console war thread and this isnt 1 so could we stay on topic please (though its prob my falt that we are going off topic)

**Blake** · 02-18-2004

true true but what im saying is no matter how much u or i think that the ps3 will be better

I was just a little confused that you put words in my mouth. Please find somehwere that I said or implied the PS3 would be better.

You say this belongs in a console war topic?

I am however stating if Sony wants to have an edge then it's best that they keep their ideas under wraps if the route M$ is taking is for real. I dont think Microsoft is sh*t either...they're crooked if anything, that's why I have a bitter taste for them in my mouth. And just to further the PS3 Xbox:N debate, the two consoles will be neck and neck concerning overall power as far as Im concerned.

I didnt directly attack any company and as you can see nor any console. All we were merely doing is discussing marketing strategies and the like. It may appear I was siding with Sony but all I was saying is; "if they do or do not want this to happen, then this is problly what they do/do not need to do"

Console wars usually consist of the following: This system is better than that, This company better than that, This companies inovation better than that, see where Im going?

It did go off topic a little but it contributed to the thread and btw we both caused things to go off topic.

**gaming ultima** · 02-18-2004

Originally Posted by PSX_Junkie

true true but what im saying is no matter how much u or i think that the ps3 will be better

I was just a little confused that you put words in my mouth. Please find somehwere that I said or implied the PS3 would be better.

You say this belongs in a console war topic?

I am however stating if Sony wants to have an edge then it's best that they keep their ideas under wraps if the route M$ is taking is for real. I dont think Microsoft is sh*t either...they're crooked if anything, that's why I have a bitter taste for them in my mouth. And just to further the PS3 Xbox:N debate, the two consoles will be neck and neck concerning overall power as far as Im concerned.

I didnt directly attack any company and as you can see nor any console. All we were merely doing is discussing marketing strategies and the like. It may appear I was siding with Sony but all I was saying is; "if they do or do not want this to happen, then this is problly what they do/do not need to do"

Console wars usually consist of the following: This system is better than that, This company better than that, This companies inovation better than that, see where Im going?

It did go off topic a little but it contributed to the thread and btw we both caused things to go off topic.

when i said how ever much u or i think that the ps3 will be better i was saying that even if either of us did we shouldnt underestimate microsoft. i wasnt trying to put words in your mouth or saying tht u favour any company in any of my posts. im sorry for any offense caused

**Blake** · 02-18-2004

Ah...none taken at all. I was just sticking my ground but not in a harsh way towards you at all. Your like me, dont want topics to get out of hand or go anywhere that might just lead to trouble.

And with that out of the way, back to the ram issue. As I have nothing to say about it right now I'll just let someone else continue the conversation.

Anonymous · 02-19-2004

512?

HAH HAH HAH!! 90% of which will never even be used

**gaming ultima** · 02-19-2004

pogon every1's entitled to their opin but if your gona make such comments could u back them up with something (thats not a bunch of ****)

**hlby33** · 06-01-2004

512 would be alot but it would help the games to run smoother since only a little would be used.

**Takato** · 06-01-2004

Online sources are today reporting that the console will incorporate four XDR-DRAM chips, for a total of 256MB of main RAM - an eight-fold increase over the 32MB found in the PlayStation 2. The memory bus speed is also significantly faster than the PS2's.
- http://news.designtechnica.com/article806.html

**Blake** · 06-01-2004

Works for me..256 will be just fine.

Make sure your scources are creditable though.

**Takato** · 06-01-2004

More Sorces with the same article.

http://www.tech-critic.com/print.php?id=5873
http://www.tech-critic.com/comments.php?id=5873&catid=1
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07...ur_mill_turns/

No need for 512mb, 512mb Yellowstone RDRAM - 102.4 gb/sec, thats WAY to much. ( I think )

**gaming ultima** · 06-04-2004

256MB does look like the most likely but i really hope that they go for 512 because of a few things -
first I would like to say that even if it does have a 102.4GB/s bandwidth while this helps for various things and it does enable data to be moved in and out of there faster freeing up more space it still doesn’t change the total amount of info you can store on there, and in this case more is defiantly better, as while the ever more likely looking blu-ray discs have massive transfer rates which will enable heavy usage of streaming allot of that will go to the much larger textures ...... and so mainly for games like gta its a lot better to have more RAM. also having more RAM makes it easier to program in the long run, how many developers have complained about the ps2 having a lack of RAM now, not sure but allot
RAM these days is pretty cheap, and putting in 512 instead of 256 wont cost that much more, especially considering that the ps3 wont be launched till 2006 and its main lifespan will go on till 2011/2012 it will be very very cheap then
also 256 may be plenty now, but what about 2006, sure it will be fine then 2 prob but what about half way though its lifespan in 2009? or nearer the end of its lifespan in 2010, it defiantly wont be enough then, in my opinion anyways. that’s the thing about future consoles is when you make one you cant think what’s enough now or when its released, you go to think of its lifespan - hence the reason Microsoft have said the next xbox games are going to be HD (high-definition (high resolution)), and Sony will prob go down the HD route because HDTV's will start to come in right in the next gen console's lifespan in the US and in Europe, and of course there already a big thing in Japan. So I say sony please put 512MB in for the main memory, and then put in lots for the VRAM as well.

**KlawHammer** · 06-07-2004

it looks mighty unwarranted to me, 1 GB is more like it.

**Makaveli_786** · 06-14-2004

Dont forget we have a massive 6.4GHz speed, if we multiply that by 256 we get a transfer rate of 1,638,400 bits.

If we were using DDR RAM(most likely like the Xbox Next will) then they could drop in the same but only get a transfer rate of 102,400 bits

In other words the PS3 will be able to transfer 16 times as much data as the Xbox Next.

If swap file is incorporated the PS3 could have 12 MB of XDR-DRAM and be on par with the Xbox Next's 256MB.

**ABC2K4** · 07-20-2004

really...?

**gaming ultima** · 07-20-2004

no not really, unfortunately when it comes to hardware makaveli's knowledge is a bit lacking, but he of course thinks he knows what he is talking about. from what i can remember from ps3i (which i have tried to forget) he knows quite a bit about software though
ooo did i forget to mention that he has now been banned from ps3i 3 times, go back to ps3i makaveli, you keep getting banned but its actually quite entertaining now. so far you’ve been quite predictable though makaveli, makes you a bit more boring however.

**ABC2K4** · 07-20-2004

i just want ps3 to be the best, but i don't know if its gonna match let alone beat the xbox2.....

**gaming ultima** · 07-27-2004

my prediction on the ps3's external RAM - considering its common for 256MB pc RAM sticks to use 8 32MB chips I believe that each XDR stick will do the same and hence have 256MB (32MBx

, this stick will use the 8x I/O width option at 3.2GHz (so 2x8x3.2=51.2GB/s bandwidth). now if Sony were to use two of these sticks each with their own channel then between the two of them you would have 512MB and a bandwidth of 102.4GB/s!!!! Developers could use 1 stick for main memory and 1 for VRAM, or they could just put the VRAM and main memory together dynamically (like the xbox and maybe the next xbox does)

**pudge** · 08-07-2004

i would hope it well have somewhere around 350MB to keep the games running smooth. because the bigger the game the more ram it well need right?

**Dalsekanu** · 09-19-2004

I have a question. If the "CELL" processor is the all in one chip, wouldn't the main ram and video ram be the same thing? So when you load up those wonderful graphic textures, what would be left for processing on 256 megs?