Could Qore make the free PSN worse?

[Arion]

Let me post the original article to see what I mean

Introducing Qore: Taking you behind the curtain with PlayStation

Today we are announcing that Qore: Presented by the PLAYSTATION Network, a highly interactive, monthly lifestyle gaming program covering the world inside PLAYSTATION is on its way to PS3. Qore has been developed to give PS3 users early access to game related content at a level of quality, interactivity and depth. Everything is filmed in HD. Qore will feature exclusive news, developer interviews, in-depth game previews and behind-the-scenes looks at PlayStation games and special access to game demos, special beta invitations, game add-ons and other downloadable game-related content.

Im not worried about the special beta invitations. Im worried about "special access to game demos". How special can a demo be. Do u think less demos will be provided now because Sony wants to give people an incentive to buy Qore?

I guess only time will tell to see exactly if the game demos that Qore provides will be demos that we think we should have gotten for free.

Discuss ur thoughts on this

EDIT: Found this response to comment 42 that at least makes me feel better

Comment: Echoing what #35 Wildy said….

Someone from SONY want to tell us what this means? Are demos going to be exclusive to Qore from now on, or will they still be free?

People complain about the lack of demos and now you will start charging for them? Really? Is that what this means?

Response: If you purchase Qore, you will have access to exclusive content that would not be available otherwise - it does not impact the availability of the great content found on PSN, nor does it change our free play model.

[MA77_G0D]

I think it means they will get some Demos earlier, like what happened with the Battlefield BC demo; which required a code. It does say on your first quote 'EARLY ACCESS' (3rd line down, left hand side).

- Matt -

[Grym]

Don't worry if people don't think the magazine it's worth it they will scrap the idea.

[scaramanga1973]

Price anyone? (25 character rule)

[Eric]

Don't worry if people don't think the magazine it's worth it they will scrap the idea.

No they won't, otherwise they'll have pissed off a lot of users who paid for 13 issues.

[Dylan_IRL]

Price anyone? (25 character rule)

As long as its less than €5 ill buy it

[EyeSight]

if we've to start paying for good content, i'd rather pay for xbox live, the only thing keeping me with the PSN is that it's free, at the moment it's not as good at xbox live and i'm not paying for sub par services

[Kint]

if we've to start paying for good content, i'd rather pay for xbox live, the only thing keeping me with the PSN is that it's free, at the moment it's not as good at xbox live and i'm not paying for sub par services

You Don't have to pay for it.... Is optional, so dont cry

[Neo-Delta]

To say that Qore could make the PSN worse is a tad pessimistic. I really think more elaboration on Qore is needed on Sony's part before I make my decision. I most likely will buy the first "Issue" and go from there. But first, It'll have to actually be released in Europe. And at the going rate it looks like it wont be this Thursday for us.. But hey...lets hope :P

[Goodfella]

Price anyone? (25 character rule)

The introductory price for Qore is $2.99 for a single episode and $24.99 for an annual subscription of 13 episodes.

[Neo-Delta]

I'm afraid this particular version of Qore is not coming to Europe as the qore content is coming from an American company Future Publishing US, but Sony is looking to provide a similar program for the European region. Heres a quote I found a rep from Sony posted. So don't fret just yet you guys.

SCEE are constantly looking at ways in which we can offer the best digital content to PS3 owners and PSN subscribers. With this in mind, we're currently in discussion with media partners, including Future Plc to explore a variety of options.

Cheers for that buddy. Even If it is a little dissapointing.....and typical D

[SillyHatMafia]

All it will probably give is a day or 2 early access and maybe a discount on games on PSN.

[Stunt]

I'm worried about that too. The PSN barley has demos as it is, and I'm worried if we want to get the low amount of demos we do, will we have to buy the magazine?

[Alakratt]

We needed exclusive stuff, like interviews, behind-the-scenes stuff, pictures, also more content for PSN like demos, PS3 mini-games, PS1 games (crossing fingers for this one), more themes, wallpapers, etc. But charging for stuff that's probably going to be available right away on the net is ridiculous! C'mon guys, even exclusive info from printed mags end up on the net as scans! This, to me, is a miss for Sony, I would agree to charge for video content like TV shows, or net series, but game info?! and with advertising!! It's just wrong to charge for something with advertising, hello, you're paying for it, if it was free ok, but I don't get it. I just hope that Home stays free as it was intended to be.

OH! So yeah, answering the thread question, yes, it does make the free, and lacking, PSN, worse.

[SecretSquirrel]

I'm worried about that too. The PSN barley has demos as it is, and I'm worried if we want to get the low amount of demos we do, will we have to buy the magazine?

Yes, and if you don't Sony'll make you lag out of games until you do so!

Why's everyone so negative about this whole thing, let's try be a little more optimistic here:

"We should be greatful that a 3rd party magazine, in no relation with Sony, may actually be able to provide us with all the demo's we've been wanting all this time. Yes they'll charge us a small fee, but we'll be getting some content we've been asking forever for. Yay"

It's an optional thing, no one's forcing anyone to buy anything, but if you're getting some exclusive content, especially demo's that you already AREN'T getting from PSN, why are we complaining?

[Beemer]

I really don't think this is going to work. All the "exclusive" content will end up on the internet. If Sony holds out demos unless you pay for them, their going to have a riot on their hands. The only part that could possibly work is the beta access, which is hardly worth it IMO.

[Alakratt]

It's an optional thing, no one's forcing anyone to buy anything, but if you're getting some exclusive content, especially demo's that you already AREN'T getting from PSN, why are we complaining?

Dude, I get what you're saying, but the thing is that charging for content that's gonna be available in the net in moments is ridiculous! Charging for demos is one thing I WILL NEVER agree to, how can you charge somebody to test a small part of your game and see if they like it enough to buy the full product? A demo is a taster, if the person likes it, they go and buy the full game. It's not fair to charge me to play a small part of a game to see if I like it. I know they aren't forcing anyone into buying it, but part of what they are offering is what we've been waiting for, but not like this.

[SecretSquirrel]

I really don't think this is going to work. All the "exclusive" content will end up on the internet. If Sony holds out demos unless you pay for them, their going to have a riot on their hands. The only part that could possibly work is the beta access, which is hardly worth it IMO.

Once again, it's a 3rd party company, not Sony charging for demo's.

Dude, I get what you're saying, but the thing is that charging for content that's gonna be available in the net in moments is ridiculous!

Which is why the magazine isn't for everyone. There's plenty of gamers out there who don't go to forums, who've never heard of Kotaku, Destroid and the only reason they go to IGN or GameSpot is to get a review about a game that came out a little while ago.

As an optional service, to those people who aren't as online savy, I believe will help out.

Charging for demos is one thing I WILL NEVER agree to, how can you charge somebody to test a small part of your game and see if they like it enough to buy the full product? A demo is a taster, if the person likes it, they go and buy the full game. It's not fair to charge me to play a small part of a game to see if I like it. I know they aren't forcing anyone into buying it, but part of what they are offering is what we've been waiting for, but not like this.

Last two generations, we've all paid for demos. There were plenty of magazines that would give you a demo disc when you buy their publication. Then you had those $5 demos official Playstation demos they were selling at WalMart.

Perhaps we shouldn't be paying for demos this generation, but if fhe magazine can bring additional content, that Sony is apparently unable to for a small fee, why is it such a bad idea?

[Alakratt]

Dude, I just don't like the idea of paying for a demo, in the end I'm gonna buy their game if I liked it! I know that in the past they charged people for demos, but those were mostly for consoles and since they were on a disc, I think that's why they charged. But, for example, on the PC end, demos don't cost a thing (most of the times), just go to their site, download it, install it, play it, enjoy it/hate it and that's it! What I'm getting at here is that digital distribution of demos should be free, long gone are the days of going to a store and pre-ordering a game just to get the demo, or subscribing to a magazine to get a monthly disc, no disc = no charge, just fun.

BTW, I get what you said about the exclusive info and some people not knowing where to look, I agree on that part.

[Tyrien]

Whatever, still cheaper than live.

But only time will tell.

[Bakudannar]

Think of it this way. It's an online game magazine and instead of a demo disc, the exclusive content is downloaded.

It doesn't mean they'll scrap demos for PSN. It just means people who subscribe can sample the games earlier, which is fair. Back when it was unthinkable to download demos for console games, people went to the store to buy magazines. Or, they subscribed.

If anything, it will make PSN better. They get a new source of revenue and if they turn a profit, they can use it to improve PSN services.

[TH3 GAM3]

Whatever, still cheaper than live.

But only time will tell.

That's the way I'm seeing it too. At the end of the day. It's still cheaper than live and PSN is still free.

[Grinchy]

It's hard to get a real idea of how this is going to work but it seems like you can sort of compare it to Live's Silver and Gold accounts. Sometimes demos come out and can only be DL'd by Gold accounts for a week or so. The difference here would be that the free accounts can still play games online which is the most important thing to me.

[bobtheduck]

THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE PSN WE HAVE NOW... This is a subscription based video magazine that comes with demos, that doesn't change what we get now. It's not anything like live. Online play and demos are still free as they will be unless Sony loses their minds...

[Reevr]

You guys DO realize that we wouldn't be paying for the Socom beta if this Qore thing wasn't around. It's just taking from things that we would be getting anyways. How do some of you not understand that?...

Do you really think that developers that have been working on a demo for a while are just going to release them on the PSN for free when they can probably get a small piece of money by releasing it through Qore? Hell no! Use your freaking heads!