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    I'm guessing you wanted him to advertise for Microsoft didn't you?
    Nah...just like any good competitor, they need to eat some humble pie and pull some 360 exclusive out of their butt and mention they like it. It actually makes them look better to the general public. It's kinda like seeing someone injured at a football game that is NOT on your team. Out of respect, you clap and hope for the best when they are carted off the field....even though you may not like him.

    He could have just said "I am fond of Epic, and I have found Gears of War to be a great looking IP", and they could have moved on.

    But nooooooooo. He goes off and says one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard come out of any gaming figure' mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sainraja View Post
    The guy giving the interview or the one taking? Because as many others have pointed out, the guy who was interviewing Kaz Hirai put him into a corner, unfairly.

    You can't expect Sony to advertise for Microsoft now do ya!
    The guy interviewing Kaz was a fool with his line of questioning but Kaz was unprofessional in his response.

    Of course I do not expect Sony to advertise for MS, but carrying on the way he did was why I made the lube comment. There are ways of carrying yourself professionally don't you think? Do you feel Kaz carried himself on a professional level with his response?

    Easily all Kaz had to say was something to the effect of "We feel at Sony our games are second to none and we have absolutely no reason to desire any XBOX 360 exclusive titles available on our system". Much easier to do, far more professional.

    This crap only entices the fan boy/fan girl "wars".

    We'll probably disagree and that's fine but that's my take.
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    Welcome to the wonderful world of Asian pride

    Although I know that many 360 forums are picking up on this and making fun of it, putting down to arrogance and denial, I, for one, definitely can relate to why he said what he did.

    In the Asian mentality, loyalty is very highly regarded, even more so in Japan. Pride is also a very big component in our upbringing - being proud of our family, proud of our work (not being overly proud of ourselves though - that's a big no no here).

    Add in another component which, translated from the Mandarin language, is called "face". To "lose one's face" is to be ridiculed and embarassed in public such that one loses respect in the community. Yes, it might be a Chinese-mentality, but its something that Asians, as a whole, feel strongly about.

    So we have these 3 factors - loyalty, pride and face. When you consider these, what Kaz said actually makes perfect sense. He must show loyalty to his brand, he must show pride in his brand, he must not "lose face" (or worse, lose Sony's face).

    If I were to be in a similar position, I would pretty much say the same thing - I'd rather die than to endorse my competitor's products.


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    Whoa, looks like I hit a nerve here!

    I dont think that sony desperately needs more titles. I dont think that a MS representative would have said "OMG we need ps3 exclusives!" either. I know that it is the interviewers job to push people like this. I'm also not saying that he should have mentioned a list of 360 exclusives. I also think that Kaz could have nipped this argument in the bud rather than taking it to the bullet in the head talk. Maybe it was humour, but it gets all lost in text form. Shoot me now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Nah...just like any good competitor, they need to eat some humble pie and pull some 360 exclusive out of their butt and mention they like it. It actually makes them look better to the general public. It's kinda like seeing someone injured at a football game that is NOT on your team. Out of respect, you clap and hope for the best when they are carted off the field....even though you may not like him.

    He could have just said "I am fond of Epic, and I have found Gears of War to be a great looking IP", and they could have moved on.

    But nooooooooo. He goes off and says one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard come out of any gaming figure' mouth.
    his reply was good enough! if he said one 360 game, i guarantee it will be another topic

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    I can understand the Japanese pride factors and it's probably honorable in the East to carry on that way.

    In the west however that comes across very unprofessional and the only people in the west who would probably support his comments (besides many Japanese and people who originate from the Orient/East) would be the Sony fans who could never find err in Kaz Hiari's comments or even those of Howard Stringer.

    Kaz should be aware of who sees these remarks.

    At the end of the day this'll probably be forgotten in a fortnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A7MAD View Post
    I can understand the Japanese pride factors and it's probably honorable in the East to carry on that way.

    In the west however that comes across very unprofessional and the only people in the west who would probably support his comments (besides many Japanese and people from the Orient/East) would be the Sony fans who could never find err in Kaz Hiari's comments or even those of Howard Stringer.

    Kaz should be aware of who sees these remarks.

    At the end of the day this'll probably be forgotten in a fortnight.
    I prefer Peter Moore's style. He was asked at last year's E3 about MGS 4. His response was frank and straight up. "Great game. I wish we had it on our console". Not exact words...but something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeisureSuitLarry View Post
    I prefer Peter Moore's style. He was asked at last year's E3 about MGS 4. His response was frank and straight up. "Great game. I wish we had it on our console". Not exact words...but something like that.
    Yeah he said that pretty much here: http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotakutalku...?autoplay=true
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    With SONY showing off more titles than Microsoft and Nintendo combined they don't need any more.

    I'm with Kaz on this one, take the bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A7MAD View Post
    Yeah he said that pretty much here: http://kotaku.com/gaming/kotakutalku...?autoplay=true
    Ah....that's exactly the one I was talking about. I tried to find that exact video earlier but couldn't. +rep for the find
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhawk View Post
    maybe he does not like Gears of War. ever thought of that ??? I have seen some major 360 fanboy posts from you.

    I got to ask this question do you really own a ps3 or are you just a 360 fanboy coming to the defence of Microsoft when someone says something bad about them or the 360.

    if you favor the 360 so much more then the ps3 why in the blue hell are you on a ps3 site. (this question goes for A7MAD as well and all other 360 fanboys)

    I don't care if I get a infraction for telling the truth people need to know about you and other die hard 360 fanboys.
    i think it has been established that when you have both consoles on this forums, that give that person a get away pass to troll the **** out of either consoles(not saying a7mad and switch are trolls)

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    Anyone of you that thinks he is serious need a reality check, the fact of the matter is this is a business and if he could take a MS exclusive it would sell more ps3's and take sales away from 360, you guys need to get past the foolish beliefs that sony have any more honor than their competitors the only thing they have more of is false confidence IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowhawk View Post
    if you favor the 360 so much more then the ps3 why in the blue hell are you on a ps3 site. (this question goes for A7MAD as well and all other 360 fanboys)
    You fail...

    Learn the difference between a preference and trolling/fan boy discussion.

    English may be a second language for you, still don't jump the gun, if you're butt sore I'm not playing my PS3 as much as my Wii or X360, don't tell me I have no right here. That makes you an arrogant ***.

    I play games on all 4 of my platforms, I don't need you to be my mother in law here and tell me I have to love PS3 above everything to be allowed to have a discussion here. Your butt sore post has no validity because I do not hate on any console here even if I have a preference, learn the difference and come back for discussion when you've enlightened yourself kiddo.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowhawk View Post
    I don't care if I get a infraction for telling the truth people need to know about you and other die hard 360 fanboys.
    Those who tend to jump the gun and call others fan boys specifically (by name) are usually the ones guilty of what they claim of others. Do your worst, you calling me a fan boy means nothing. I'd have to respect you for it to bother me. I’ve been here long enough; I’d have been infracted or “spotted” if I was what you have claimed.

    This was a discussion about Kaz Hirai carrying himself unprofessionally (which was my opinion and i stated it), if you disagree tell me you disagree and we'd have gone on respecting each others opinions, even if you faked respecting mine.

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    Ah....that's exactly the one I was talking about. I tried to find that exact video earlier but couldn't. +rep for the find
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    Kaz is totally right. The ps3 library is fine at the moment. More quality games will come before this year is over and ps3 owners are gonna have plenty of ps3 exclusives to choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Nah...just like any good competitor, they need to eat some humble pie and pull some 360 exclusive out of their butt and mention they like it. It actually makes them look better to the general public. It's kinda like seeing someone injured at a football game that is NOT on your team. Out of respect, you clap and hope for the best when they are carted off the field....even though you may not like him.

    He could have just said "I am fond of Epic, and I have found Gears of War to be a great looking IP", and they could have moved on.

    But nooooooooo. He goes off and says one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard come out of any gaming figure' mouth.
    So, I guess this means that you wanted him to advertise for Microsoft. Thanks for answering my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamecrazy View Post
    The problem isn't the 3rd party games going multiplat so much as it is the 3rd party games going MS exclusive. 1rst party Sony games are good but not as good as some of the 3rd party games that we're lacking. (Gears of War, Mass Effect)
    Mass Effect was developed by Bioware, which was owned by Microsoft at the time. So Mass Effect is a 1st party game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typical guy View Post
    I guess the PS3 doesn't need bioshock, eternal sonata, overlord, enchanted arms, oblivion, and more?
    PS3 has Oblivion, and is getting both Bioshock and Eternal Sonata later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dionusos View Post
    PS3 has Oblivion, and is getting both Bioshock and Eternal Sonata later on.
    I believe that was his point, Kaz is sitting there saying the PS3 doesnt need any of 360's games even though a large batch of them are on and coming to the PS3 and helping expand their library quite a bit.
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    Kaz is simply answering to the question that he doesn't feel the need to mention any 360-title in particular, perhaps also because there already are a few on the table and in the pipeline. Why feed the media beast with speculation and rumors when there isn't a need?


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    This just shows the difference between the two companies. Did Sony get the CEO of 2K games to come on stage and tap Trettons shoulder to show off Bioshock like fanboy lip service?

    Sony doesn't go ape over stealing bananas from the other monkeys, they've worked too long and hard building up their own brand and their own franchises. Take it how you like, Kaz merely walked the walk and that's why the PS3 is selling so well right now. This is how they roll, like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Nah...just like any good competitor, they need to eat some humble pie and pull some 360 exclusive out of their butt and mention they like it. It actually makes them look better to the general public. It's kinda like seeing someone injured at a football game that is NOT on your team. Out of respect, you clap and hope for the best when they are carted off the field....even though you may not like him.

    He could have just said "I am fond of Epic, and I have found Gears of War to be a great looking IP", and they could have moved on.

    But nooooooooo. He goes off and says one of the stupidest things I have EVER heard come out of any gaming figure' mouth.
    Nah, I don't feel it. MS has the funny habit of "yeah, Sony suxxorz the big one!!111one!!2", but Kaz here says (forced) here: no, I don't have any title I would like to bring up that I would like to have on the PS3.
    This doesn't say that Kaz hates the competition, he actually complements it if anything.
    It's just you being a ****, that's all.
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    Haha, I like the guy. A smart-*** answer. But an intelligent person indeed.




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    Quote Originally Posted by A7MAD View Post
    The guy interviewing Kaz was a fool with his line of questioning but Kaz was unprofessional in his response.

    Of course I do not expect Sony to advertise for MS, but carrying on the way he did was why I made the lube comment. There are ways of carrying yourself professionally don't you think? Do you feel Kaz carried himself on a professional level with his response?

    Easily all Kaz had to say was something to the effect of "We feel at Sony our games are second to none and we have absolutely no reason to desire any XBOX 360 exclusive titles available on our system". Much easier to do, far more professional.

    This crap only entices the fan boy/fan girl "wars".

    We'll probably disagree and that's fine but that's my take.
    Kaz Hirai did say that, not with the same words but he did say it. It's right in the interview. Look here:

    Again, I don't think I have to pick one because we have such a fantastic lineup of games.
    And as you can see, the gun part was brought up by the guy who was interviewing.

    But if someone is holding a gun to your head and you have to choose one. Which game would it be?
    The guy ONLY gave him two choices. Pick a game (and contradict his earlier statement) or take the other answer...which is what he did. He shouldn't have answered the question....when he had already answered it but the arrogance topic would have still come up.

    Kaz Hirai stuck with his original answer instead of contradicting himself. As for what Peter Moore said about MGS4, it is a third-party title. He's not going to call a game made by Konami crap when they do business with them as well. Microsoft wants third party titles that were on the PlayStation brand in the past, GTA and Final Fantasy are evidence of that. Kaz was asked about first party titles. Most third party games not funded by Microsoft are multi-platform, so the PS3 is already getting those titles. Why would you name titles you're already getting?

    I am not sure when he was asked this question but I am sure he would know way before us what title the PS3 is getting. Bioshock is one title the PS3 is already getting. Why name a game you are going to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubersnuber View Post
    Nah, I don't feel it. MS has the funny habit of "yeah, Sony suxxorz the big one!!111one!!2", but Kaz here says (forced) here: no, I don't have any title I would like to bring up that I would like to have on the PS3.
    This doesn't say that Kaz hates the competition or anything, he actually complements it if anything.
    It's just you being a ****, that's all.
    Does he have to get down on he's knees and say he wants to swallow? No, not really, get your personal life out of this!
    out of topics: that line reminds me of one of *****'s hook, "shut up ***** swallow! if you cant swallow' shut up ***** gaggle"

    atleast Kaz knows better not to..........

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    People need to stop making a big deal out of this. Kaz Hirai does not need to say what game the PS3 needs from the Xbox line-up when that's not going to happen at all. First party titles aren't coming to the PS3 from the 360. It is a pointless question. Third party titles are already coming (minus a couple.)

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