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    GTA IV PS3 Exclusivity Would Have Strengthened All Versions

    I mean think about.

    If GTA IV was a timed PS3 exclusive like all other 3D GTA's it would have made the PS3, 360 and PC versions better. R* would have been able to develop and optimize the engine specifically for the PS3, taking into account Blu-Ray and such.

    Then 6 months later they release a 360 and PC version which look better due to more development time. Both completely optimized to the specific system.

    So in the end we have PS3 owners happy with their timed exclusivity. 360 owners are happy because their version looks a bit better due to more development time. And PC owners are happy because their version looks the best and has mods. Everyones happy and nobody gets shafted.

    But instead, console owners have an inferior version with fluctuating framerates and broken online, while PC owners who waited patiently (like Microsoft should have done) are getting the superior version in 2 months. Thanks Microsoft.

    PS: I still love the game but it could have been more stable and with better online.

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    The PC version is going to be better than the console versions anyways.

    If they optimized it for the PS3, they would have probably had to dumb it down just a bit for 360 in terms of size, so that wouldn't have been good.

    Their version doesn't look any different. In fact, the PS3 version was looking better in a lot of pictures and videos, but it was mostly the same.

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    It would have looked the same no matter what. If it was a timed exclusive it would have looked the same and if it was exclusive it would have looked the same. GTA was never about graphics anyways.
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    I honestly dont think PS3 is far enough along that they would need to dumb it down to get it on 360. And yes the PS3 version does look slightly better than 360. But both versions could have been much better if not developed together.

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    That's exactly right! When GTA san andreas came out, it was a timed exclusive but it game rockstar the chance to maximize the ps2 capabillties. Too bad it wasn't at least like that with GTA IV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_End View Post
    It would have looked the same no matter what. If it was a timed exclusive it would have looked the same and if it was exclusive it would have looked the same. GTA was never about graphics anyways.
    I never said it was. You guys are talking this the wrong way. Just think if San Andreas was developed multiplatform from the start. It would have suffered because of it. Thats what happened to GTA IV. Both console versions suffered due to multiplatform development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    I mean think about.

    If GTA IV was a timed PS3 exclusive like all other 3D GTA's it would have made the PS3, 360 and PC versions better. R* would have been able to develop and optimize the engine specifically for the PS3, taking into account Blu-Ray and such.

    Then 6 months later they release a 360 and PC version which look better due to more development time. Both completely optimized to the specific system.


    So in the end we have PS3 owners happy with their timed exclusivity. 360 owners are happy because their version looks a bit better due to more development time. And PC owners are happy because their version looks the best and has mods. Everyones happy and nobody gets shafted.

    But instead, console owners have an inferior version with fluctuating framerates and broken online, while PC owners who waited patiently (like Microsoft should have done) are getting the superior version in 2 months. Thanks Microsoft.

    PS: I still love the game but it could have been more stable and with better online.
    Why are you blaming all this on MS, it's not there fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    I never said it was. You guys are talking this the wrong way. Just think if San Andreas was developed multiplatform from the start. It would have suffered because of it. Thats what happened to GTA IV. Both console versions suffered due to multiplatform development.
    Yeah, thats why most games that are multiplatform (on ps3, xbox, ps2, psp) are usually lacking gameplay on the superior console out of the list as the game had been specifically designed for all platforms so the better consoles would probably be equally the same as the other consoles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    Why are you blaming all this on MS, it's not there fault.
    Well who should I blame? (25)

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    Anybody ever wonder why GTA4 lacked the scale and content of San Andreas???

    R* sacrificing quality for more revenue and profits. Why else wasn't the game on two discs for the 360? (ie MS royalty fees) Too bad the game won't sell a third of what San Andreas sold-- poor..rich greedy b@stards.

    R* seems to have lost their touch anyway-- what with all the other cr@p games they make. Manhunt?? wtf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis- View Post
    Anybody ever wonder why GTA4 lacked the scale and content of San Andreas???

    R* sacrificing quality for more revenue and profits. Why else wasn't the game on two discs for the 360? Too bad the game won't sell a third of what San Andreas sold-- poor..rich greedy b@stards.

    R* seems to have lost their touch anyway-- what with all the other cr@p games they make. Manhunt?? wtf!
    I agree with your first paragraph and beginning of second. No comment on the end of the second. And disagree with the third.

    I still think for the most part, gameplay and story were top notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesis- View Post
    Anybody ever wonder why GTA4 lacked the scale and content of San Andreas???

    R* sacrificing quality for more revenue and profits. Why else wasn't the game on two discs for the 360? Too bad the game won't sell a third of what San Andreas sold-- poor..rich greedy b@stards.

    R* seems to have lost their touch anyway-- what with all the other cr@p games they make. Manhunt?? wtf!
    Lol, Manhunt is kinda good, and Rockstar look like its getting back its touch. Waiting for games like Midnight Club LA, LA Noire and probably a new GTA in a couple of years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    Well who should I blame? (25)
    Blame the makers of the game, Rockstar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    I agree with your first paragraph and beginning of second. No comment on the end of the second. And disagree with the third.

    I still think for the most part, gameplay and story were top notch.
    Gameplay was classic GTA. So, no faults there. The story, on the other hand was very much so lacking.

    Characters, plot, and missions were pretty weak for a GTA game. I mean how many characters pertinent to the plot are you going to kill(not literally) off till I say I just don't give a $%*$?

    Missions were very repetitive. No variety whatsoever. Which is not normal for a GTA game.

    Plot was very very weak. Niko is out for revenge...The End. Revenge stories are so cliched, it's not even funny.

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    i honestly think this game should be if not a timed exclusisve then just exclusive to us on ps3. i mean remember when gta first announced it going to the original xbox? it was so friggin wierd. sure better visuals but thats it. in my eyes, i think it would have done better as jsut an exclusive. better development overall and wouldve been a good supporter of ps3 sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    Well who should I blame? (25)
    rockstar for making it multiplat not time exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    rockstar for making it multiplat not time exclusive.
    Rockstar were just doing what anyone would have done: take the money

    But yes, you right, Rockstar should take the blame aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
    I honestly dont think PS3 is far enough along that they would need to dumb it down to get it on 360. And yes the PS3 version does look slightly better than 360. But both versions could have been much better if not developed together.
    Just the fact that you said that. Rockstar probrably did dumbed it down. and since when is the pc version of a game always superior than consoles assassin creed and devil may cry says hello!
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-O-P-E-Y View Post
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    Well, all our problems may be over as some Rockstar execs were claiming that GTA will go PS3-exclusive, just do a Google search "Rockstar Games goes PS3-Exclusive" and you'll get a bunch of sites that are claiming that Rockstar is PS3 only now. I don't necessarily believe this is better for Rockstar however, maybe as a developer, yes, but I'm sure the shareholders won't be happy about that since they will loose ALL the 360's sales they would have gotten. It's better for the developers because, lets face it, the PS3 is more powerful and has more juice than the 360 (not trying to start a war here), and Blu-Ray makes everything a lot easier as well. The rumor makes sense, but I doubt it will be true, for awhile at least. Some sites are claiming all in-development games, i.e Midnight Club LA, will be mult-plat, but everything that Rockstar Games has yet to begin development for will be PS3-exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondidit View Post
    Just the fact that you said that. Rockstar probrably did dumbed it down. and since when is the pc version of a game always superior than consoles assassin creed and devil may cry says hello!
    Graphically they are always superior.

    Sony didn't pay for timed exclusiveness this time, like they did with the last 3 GTAs.Imagine if the last GTAs would've been xbox timed exclusive? The game was great for me anyways, a lot better than past GTAs, but it wasn't perfect.


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    Some people forget about one simple thing. The GTA numbers were NEVER the strongest titles of the series, it was always about the spin offs. What was the best GTA of last generation? It wasn't GTA3 but the spin off, San Andres. GTA 4 was just a teaser game to see how people will react to their direction and they will build the next game to take that into account. I could be wrong but if GTA4 was just the beginning, I think the spin offs should be vastly improved.

    Like some people said, it probably wouldn't have made the game any different if it was timed or not. R* wanted to go this direction and it wouldn't have mattered which was the lead platform. Sure it might look even nicer on the PS3 but overall game play wise, it would be the same structure I would think.
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    Why? at the moment the PS3 version does look better then the 360.

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    The story/gameplay was much worse than the graphics/sound.
    There was no saving it everything was just too rushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strudel View Post
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