Xenon is not all that impressive (Graphic-wise)

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

[img]ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/sites/kikizo.com/screens/deadoralive4/17.jpg[/img]

Look at the back, it says "Congradulation to the Xenon launch". If this is a fake, then it's a pretty darn good fake. There's plenty more where this came from, just google around.

Quite frankly, the graphics suck... Yes, it looks better than DOA 3, but not by a whole lot

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siren, got anything to say about this?

More pics:

[img]ftp://mirrors.blueyonder.co.uk/sites/kikizo.com/screens/deadoralive4/04.jpg[/img] The background looks good, but that's because it's pre-rendered, nothing new there.
For comparison:

**Makaveli_786** · 05-13-2005

Holy Moly I hope those aren't Xbox 360 graphics, if they are then MS are in trouble, even the PC's at the end of this year should be putting out graphics better or at least on par with that.

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

Mak, most rumours indicate that they ARE real Xbox 360 graphics. However, there is also the possibility of them being fake, afterall, how would Microsoft or Team Ninja/Tecmo allow something like this to leak out?

**siren** · 05-13-2005

Couple points

1) Tecmo already denied those posts, as to what this means is anyone guess, but I am betting beta shots

2) Gears of War blows those graphics away, so I am skeptical as to what system that is (possibly original Xbox) or if it was early shots that got leaked.

3) MS just upped the Ram and CPU speed in the Xbox360 about 2 - 3 months back. Quite a few developers have not had a chance take advantage of these yet. But that still looks like it could be done on the Xbox.

**straightballin** · 05-13-2005

Lots of info and screens for stuff gets leaked before it comes out its hard to stop.

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

Ah, so they already denied those pics eh? Thought so, they didn't look next-gen enough to me.

BTW, do you have a link or source which stated that they denied those pics?

**Makaveli_786** · 05-13-2005

Good find man, these were posted earlier and I thought the game was for Xbox because the graphics don't really look next-gen, it barely beats DOAU but the Xenon launch comment looks peculiar, hopefully these aren't Xbox 360 in game shots but it's a possibility, I'll have to wait till E3.

**siren** · 05-13-2005

I have not seen DOA4 for Xbox360 myself, but if those are pics from it for Xbox360 I will be both shocked and highly disappointed in Tecmo.

I highly doubt those are from Xbox360 and recommend people wait for E3.

**mudger** · 05-13-2005

the shots look decent... xbox could prolly handle it right now but it would be a bit of a stretch... REMEMBER xbox upped the RAM from 256 to 512 so yummmm..

**Makaveli_786** · 05-13-2005

I hope to god theyr not Xbox 360 in game shots, it's good these shots got leaked though because I can get a surprise at E3 if theyr not real or stay dissappointed if they are real, I'd hate to get all hyped up for E3 then see these shots.

**siren** · 05-13-2005

Even if they did end up being for the Xbox360, you will see significantly better looking graphics.

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

siren, so is there any link or source that states Tecmo disapproved those pics?

Quite frankly, I'm not that shocked by those graphics.
EA stated that Xbox 360's could probably contain characters with poly count up to 30K. Those characters look pretty close to what 30K of poly could do.

Of course, we have to take into account the memory upgrade, but that still won't improve the visuals all that much unless it was a bottleneck to begin with.

Oh yeah, an article on kikizo about DOA 4:
Clickity click

**straightballin** · 05-13-2005

IMO these graphics look much better then what the xbox can do but i dont belive that there as good as what the next-gen consoles should do

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

Whoa, someone went colour crazy

ENOUGH RED MARKERS

**Makaveli_786** · 05-13-2005

The graphics in Ghost Recon 3 and DOA4 look of similar quality you know, either those are Xbox 360 games or Xbox games.

**siren** · 05-13-2005

Looking closer, I want to see those pictures in motion.

While the textures are fairly low quality in the bacground, I would like to see how the characters move and the clothing and hair reacts.

This may be a case of screenshots do not do the game justice.

Imagine if they have absolutely no clipping and all the characters move smooth as silk. Impacts are all calculated perfectly, and the clothing moves and looks like it is real.

**MiThRaZoR** · 05-13-2005

Originally Posted by The_One

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ENOUGH

Whoa, a mod went crazy over there...

**orbital123** · 05-13-2005

If you go to Gaming-Age you find in their thread on this that Tecmo has already taken the pictures off the server and said that those pictures are not indicative of next generation graphics. It was most likely just a port of DOA with some added features and they were waiting for the final dev kit which they just got to begin making the graphics better. That is all the info I have gleaned from reading the forums. In other words those are not the graphics you will see in the next generation DOA game.

**Makaveli_786** · 05-13-2005

Here's the thread over at Gaming-Age...

It's supposed to be real, no announcement by any officials that its fake, all Tecmo said was that it was leaked and they don't know how it got out:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.p...&page=17&pp=50

**bustabusta196** · 05-13-2005

Whoever made this thread better of watched the MTV debut. lol

**The_One** · 05-13-2005

Don't worry, I will

**mudger** · 05-13-2005

I am gonna watch the MTV debut and I will give you my honest opinion... besides e3 is right around the corner

**muchuukuri** · 05-13-2005

Hmmm... here's the thing... if they're not real why were they on Tecmo's OWN site. They were gleaned off their press release ftp in a DOA4 folder.

Personally, I think they're a 100% real, but not necessarily what the final product will look like. My guess mainly comes from seeing the way the bodies in the games are positioned... there's A LOT of need for the fine tuning... good example look at Kasumi's right foot in the jump kick... I've never seen a human foot bend that way. Lot of little details like that suggest it's early shots of the game.

**Damnit** · 05-13-2005

I just saw Condemned on gametrailers.com and I have to say it looks pretty but at the cost of framerate. It can be the video encoding so I'll wait to see this in High-res. My first impression of Condemned is that its a pretty looking game but working on 30fps as shown on gametrailers.