Birds and the Bees -Official Relationship Thread-

[manutdfan]

Swingers parties

[oneJ]

My relationship ended last night after being together for 21 months. In the grand scheme of things, it's certainly not too long of a time, however when you wake up the next morning alone, you already feel like a millennium has passed.
If I can offer some advice to anyone who wishes to read it, its a warning of a very calm sounding word. Complacency. It is so easy to get into a routine where you think you are safe, and that everything is going along fine. It is certainly not the case. Going through the motions is not healthy, things need to be kept fresh, things need to be said.
If you have a partner in your life who, deep down you know you truly love, always show it. When you come home from work, don't give them a quick kiss on the lips or cheek, hold them like its going to be your last moment on earth and make them realise what you feel. Don't let them assume anything about you, always make then KNOW how you feel.
Don't be self conscious about HOW you express it, don't worry if you think its going to make you sound like a wuss, or be worried that how your feelings translates into words will sound silly. Saying such things is worth it, 110%, they will always make sense of it and understand, and more importantly appreciate it, and realise that the relationship they are in, is worth it.
Buying gifts and going out is great, but I think when it comes to relationships, words are greater than actions. If you have someone special in your life, let them know it, always. Never let them feel any bit of doubt.
There were a few times in the relationship that I wanted to walk away, because it seemed to be the easy option. We live in a society where everyone throws things away and get new ones, including people.
A few weeks ago we had a talk about where we were heading and decided to end it mutually, however I went back and said it was a relationship that we needed to fight for, to re ignite that spark, to not throw it away. We booked a holiday, to leave this month on the 27th to go to Thailand for 8 nights. I thought everything was going to be ok from now on, however that changed yesterday when she said she just doesn't feel the same anymore.
No one is perfect, one of my worst qualities is to snap at people when I'm in a bad mood, and my mood can change fairly quickly when the wrong thing has been said to me, even if the thing that was said was unintentional, it's like a light switch that I don't even realise has been switched. Im not a violent person, I have never hit anyone, have never been in a fight, but I don't know why I change so quickly over the littlest of things.
Do NOT let little things get in the way of your life, they are NOT worth it, it's hard, but you need to step back and look at the big picture and realise that they are not important.
Always talk, always communicate about how you're feeling, it's the most important thing in a relationship! Don't coast through it thinking everything will be fine! It won't be unless you make the effort!
We both had little things that annoyed each other, but we never mentioned it to each other, to try and keep the peace, we never fought once in the period where we were together. I think fighting sometimes will help clear the air, instead of bottling things inside.
Neither of us were perfect, and no one is, I don't think any relationship is 100% perfect, and if YOU think it is, thats fantastic, I am extremely jealous.
Unless you keep the communication channels open all the time, you will only realise what you should have been doing, when it's too late.
If you have that someone special sitting next to you, or who will be coming over tonight, or home after work, make them feel like they are the only person who matters as soon as they get through the door.
I felt that this person was the centre of my universe, the person who made my day at work that much better that I was excited to get home. But I always assumed that she knew, and now it's too late.

[The Black Wolf]

Wow, onej, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope everyone, men and women, who read that post take it to heart.

[Molo316]

My relationship ended last night after being together for 21 months. In the grand scheme of things, it's certainly not too long of a time, however when you wake up the next morning alone, you already feel like a millennium has passed.
If I can offer some advice to anyone who wishes to read it, its a warning of a very calm sounding word. Complacency. It is so easy to get into a routine where you think you are safe, and that everything is going along fine. It is certainly not the case. Going through the motions is not healthy, things need to be kept fresh, things need to be said.
If you have a partner in your life who, deep down you know you truly love, always show it. When you come home from work, don't give them a quick kiss on the lips or cheek, hold them like its going to be your last moment on earth and make them realise what you feel. Don't let them assume anything about you, always make then KNOW how you feel.
Don't be self conscious about HOW you express it, don't worry if you think its going to make you sound like a wuss, or be worried that how your feelings translates into words will sound silly. Saying such things is worth it, 110%, they will always make sense of it and understand, and more importantly appreciate it, and realise that the relationship they are in, is worth it.
Buying gifts and going out is great, but I think when it comes to relationships, words are greater than actions. If you have someone special in your life, let them know it, always. Never let them feel any bit of doubt.
There were a few times in the relationship that I wanted to walk away, because it seemed to be the easy option. We live in a society where everyone throws things away and get new ones, including people.
A few weeks ago we had a talk about where we were heading and decided to end it mutually, however I went back and said it was a relationship that we needed to fight for, to re ignite that spark, to not throw it away. We booked a holiday, to leave this month on the 27th to go to Thailand for 8 nights. I thought everything was going to be ok from now on, however that changed yesterday when she said she just doesn't feel the same anymore.
No one is perfect, one of my worst qualities is to snap at people when I'm in a bad mood, and my mood can change fairly quickly when the wrong thing has been said to me, even if the thing that was said was unintentional, it's like a light switch that I don't even realise has been switched. Im not a violent person, I have never hit anyone, have never been in a fight, but I don't know why I change so quickly over the littlest of things.
Do NOT let little things get in the way of your life, they are NOT worth it, it's hard, but you need to step back and look at the big picture and realise that they are not important.
Always talk, always communicate about how you're feeling, it's the most important thing in a relationship! Don't coast through it thinking everything will be fine! It won't be unless you make the effort!
We both had little things that annoyed each other, but we never mentioned it to each other, to try and keep the peace, we never fought once in the period where we were together. I think fighting sometimes will help clear the air, instead of bottling things inside.
Neither of us were perfect, and no one is, I don't think any relationship is 100% perfect, and if YOU think it is, thats fantastic, I am extremely jealous.
Unless you keep the communication channels open all the time, you will only realise what you should have been doing, when it's too late.
If you have that someone special sitting next to you, or who will be coming over tonight, or home after work, make them feel like they are the only person who matters as soon as they get through the door.
I felt that this person was the centre of my universe, the person who made my day at work that much better that I was excited to get home. But I always assumed that she knew, and now it's too late.

Sorry to hear about your break up. It's admirable that you've tried sharing what you think is the right and decent thing to do in a relationship.

I hope you'll be alright.

[Dave-The-Rave]

So something completely unexpected has happened tonight. I went out for a mate's birthday expecting to see the girl I have this thing for..this would be the first time since that shitty night I wrote about a few posts back. However, she didn't show. Now here is the interesting thing, turns out my ex from last year was randomly in the same club tonight..it took me FOREVER to get over her, but I am glad to say I feel nothing at all for her anymore...seems like a distant memory now. Here's the thing, I just pretended I didn't see her there at all..I mean we haven't spoken or seen each other in a year. As far as I was aware she didn't see me. However, I just got back home and the moment my phone connected to the Wifi I got an Facebook event invite from her sent a couple of hours ago for a night out in the same club on Monday. WTF does that mean, I mean I fully plan to just ignore it, but WTF!? Thoughts?

Girls sure love trying to screw with our minds.

[admartian]

So something completely unexpected has happened tonight. I went out for a mate's birthday expecting to see the girl I have this thing for..this would be the first time since that shitty night I wrote about a few posts back. However, she didn't show. Now here is the interesting thing, turns out my ex from last year was randomly in the same club tonight..it took me FOREVER to get over her, but I am glad to say I feel nothing at all for her anymore...seems like a distant memory now. Here's the thing, I just pretended I didn't see her there at all..I mean we haven't spoken or seen each other in a year. As far as I was aware she didn't see me. However, I just got back home and the moment my phone connected to the Wifi I got an Facebook event invite from her sent a couple of hours ago for a night out in the same club on Monday. WTF does that mean, I mean I fully plan to just ignore it, but WTF!? Thoughts?

Girls sure love trying to screw with our minds.

MOre than just a coincidence I reckon - ESPECIALLY if she hasn't done anything similar in that timeframe beforehand.

[oneJ]

I wrote her a letter. I didn't want to call her so soon, didn't want to send a text, didn't want to be too impersonal or intrusive. Maybe I should have given her more time, but I felt I was in the correct frame of mind to say what I wanted, without any pressure. I'm going to post it up here just to get peoples opinions if they want to give it.

Dear ******,
Early on in our relationship, there were two times where I didn't think the relationship was working. You spoke sense into me those two times. I thought that it was too hard, and was supposed to be easy all the time. Relationships aren't easy. I think you are wrong when you say that you shouldn't have to work at things. They always have to be maintained, like a car, or it will refuse to work. The though of going away with you to Thailand had me excited, I felt like new life was being breathed into me, like when we first me. I was nervous, but totally excited. I had got the names of a few places from some women at work for places to take you, assuring me that you would love it.
There were times in the relationship where I thought I didn't feel the same anymore. But when I realised that you were the only thing I thought of when we were apart, I realised that I did feel the same about you, but just in a different way. I think it went from puppy love, to the realisation that you were the biggest thing in my life. I don't know why I couldn't express it to you. I keep coming back to work, and blaming it, while it may be partly true, the ultimate factor was complacency. I went into cruise control mode, thinking I had all the time in the world, thinking we would always be together.
When the guys at work would ask me if yo were a hotting, I would tell them, "No, I think she's gorgeous". It would result in lots of teasing. Although describing you to one of my supervisors, he referred to you as the "hot tomale`" nurse. I don't know why I never told you.
I spoke to Adrian, and he gave me advice we already knew, and that was to communicate. He said that their relationship wasn't perfect, but they always worked through things. He was upset and surprised also.
My first two relationships were hard, the first one was kept secret for the entire length, and was rejected in terms of showing affection for her fear of the relationship being discovered. The next one was a bit akward because of the religion and family not liking me. Showing affection was difficult, and I was always worried of being pushed away. That worry has always been in my head. There were countless times where I thought to myself to hold you, to kiss you, make love to you, but I didn't. I know you are completely different to those other two girls, but that fear was always in still in my head.
Again, I didn't ask you to move in with me when I should have, because I thought I had all the time in the world to ask. I already miss the clutter in the shower wall cut out.
I had no counts that our split the other week would put us on track to work things out, and that the holiday was much needed for us to grow together.
Its unfortunate that such an event gets me to bring my true feelings to surface. I said the other week that I would work on myself, and you said its not right to say "change is impossible". However, change doesn't happen overnight. It's something that two people need to help each other with. My true feelings were that it was worth it to work on and make stronger.
You asked me ages ago to write you a letter. i thought it was a fantastic idea, but wanted to leave it so it surprised you, and I eventually forgot. I'm sorry that it has taken such and event for me to write one.
You may think that this is purely emotional and have had no time to think about things. While that is partially true, yes its emotional, however I have had the past 21 months to think about it.
There is plenty more that I should have said and done, for that I am sorry. There are still more things I want to write down, but I don't have enough paper to put all my feelings about you down. I wish I was able to have expressed them to you like I should have. I hate hindsight.
Your smile and your tears on the night of your birthday when I gave you that necklace and told you I loved you were magical. I wish I could of done something every day to get the same reaction. Maybe not the tears. I shouldn't have kept you waiting so long, but the reaction did seem worth it.
My thoughts of joining the Army were a panic reaction to not being able to join the Police. I was scared of what to do, and I should just spoken to you first. They are still only thoughts. I don't know what to do right now. Thank you for the job links, I forgot to thank you earlier, I still need to look around.
I don't know how to end this letter, I haven't had to write one before.
I don't know why I couldn't tell you that you were the centre of my universe before now. For that, I am sorry. I am also sorry I won't be able to make you smile like I did on your birthday. I love you ****** ***** *****

________________________

If you have something to say, please go easy. It's incredible how another person can make you feel, and when they're gone you fall apart. I work as a guard in a maximum security prison, and I deal with some horrible shit day in, day out. I can deal with that, but its incredibly hard to deal with this. I know time heals all wounds, but that time always seems like an eternity. Its also very hard to take someones advice, and even your own that you give to others.

[HurricaneDawg]

Getting married in 9 days

I was told by my fiancee tonight..."What is mine is mine, what is yours will soon be mine"

Awesome

[Wrath]

I wrote her a letter. I didn't want to call her so soon, didn't want to send a text, didn't want to be too impersonal or intrusive. Maybe I should have given her more time, but I felt I was in the correct frame of mind to say what I wanted, without any pressure. I'm going to post it up here just to get peoples opinions if they want to give it.

Dear ******,
Early on in our relationship, there were two times where I didn't think the relationship was working. You spoke sense into me those two times. I thought that it was too hard, and was supposed to be easy all the time. Relationships aren't easy. I think you are wrong when you say that you shouldn't have to work at things. They always have to be maintained, like a car, or it will refuse to work. The though of going away with you to Thailand had me excited, I felt like new life was being breathed into me, like when we first me. I was nervous, but totally excited. I had got the names of a few places from some women at work for places to take you, assuring me that you would love it.
There were times in the relationship where I thought I didn't feel the same anymore. But when I realised that you were the only thing I thought of when we were apart, I realised that I did feel the same about you, but just in a different way. I think it went from puppy love, to the realisation that you were the biggest thing in my life. I don't know why I couldn't express it to you. I keep coming back to work, and blaming it, while it may be partly true, the ultimate factor was complacency. I went into cruise control mode, thinking I had all the time in the world, thinking we would always be together.
When the guys at work would ask me if yo were a hotting, I would tell them, "No, I think she's gorgeous". It would result in lots of teasing. Although describing you to one of my supervisors, he referred to you as the "hot tomale`" nurse. I don't know why I never told you.
I spoke to Adrian, and he gave me advice we already knew, and that was to communicate. He said that their relationship wasn't perfect, but they always worked through things. He was upset and surprised also.
My first two relationships were hard, the first one was kept secret for the entire length, and was rejected in terms of showing affection for her fear of the relationship being discovered. The next one was a bit akward because of the religion and family not liking me. Showing affection was difficult, and I was always worried of being pushed away. That worry has always been in my head. There were countless times where I thought to myself to hold you, to kiss you, make love to you, but I didn't. I know you are completely different to those other two girls, but that fear was always in still in my head.
Again, I didn't ask you to move in with me when I should have, because I thought I had all the time in the world to ask. I already miss the clutter in the shower wall cut out.
I had no counts that our split the other week would put us on track to work things out, and that the holiday was much needed for us to grow together.
Its unfortunate that such an event gets me to bring my true feelings to surface. I said the other week that I would work on myself, and you said its not right to say "change is impossible". However, change doesn't happen overnight. It's something that two people need to help each other with. My true feelings were that it was worth it to work on and make stronger.
You asked me ages ago to write you a letter. i thought it was a fantastic idea, but wanted to leave it so it surprised you, and I eventually forgot. I'm sorry that it has taken such and event for me to write one.
You may think that this is purely emotional and have had no time to think about things. While that is partially true, yes its emotional, however I have had the past 21 months to think about it.
There is plenty more that I should have said and done, for that I am sorry. There are still more things I want to write down, but I don't have enough paper to put all my feelings about you down. I wish I was able to have expressed them to you like I should have. I hate hindsight.
Your smile and your tears on the night of your birthday when I gave you that necklace and told you I loved you were magical. I wish I could of done something every day to get the same reaction. Maybe not the tears. I shouldn't have kept you waiting so long, but the reaction did seem worth it.
My thoughts of joining the Army were a panic reaction to not being able to join the Police. I was scared of what to do, and I should just spoken to you first. They are still only thoughts. I don't know what to do right now. Thank you for the job links, I forgot to thank you earlier, I still need to look around.
I don't know how to end this letter, I haven't had to write one before.
I don't know why I couldn't tell you that you were the centre of my universe before now. For that, I am sorry. I am also sorry I won't be able to make you smile like I did on your birthday. I love you ****** ***** *****

________________________

If you have something to say, please go easy. It's incredible how another person can make you feel, and when they're gone you fall apart. I work as a guard in a maximum security prison, and I deal with some horrible shit day in, day out. I can deal with that, but its incredibly hard to deal with this. I know time heals all wounds, but that time always seems like an eternity. Its also very hard to take someones advice, and even your own that you give to others.

Man, I wish this hadn't happened to you as it seems you're a good guy. All I can say is that a letter like this is definitely what's needed. Maybe it'll even be enough to eventually make her reconsider and give the relationship another chance.

I wish you all the best!

[Dave-The-Rave]

So I just rechecked the event my ex invited me to, she was listed as attending last night..but not anymore. My guess is it was a drunken regret from last night.

[PeanutButterMunky]

Getting married in 9 days

I was told by my fiancee tonight..."What is mine is mine, what is yours will soon be mine"

Awesome

Well you're not married... yet. Still time to consider other options.

[Cybertox]

I still dont understand why girls dont speak with me. Im good looking and a polite person. I also don speak with girls that i really like but thats because i see that they are not interested in me.

[DreDayDetox]

Ok guys, so I think I may have a gf now. I wouldn't say it's official (to me, it's official when we kiss mouth to mouth) but I have taken her out to a movie and I'm gonna take her out again next week, and this summer. I'm new to this relationship game, so if we do "tie the knot" so to speak, I have a couple of questions I wanted to ask some of you more experienced men of PSU, and female input if we have any active female members on here, but sausage fest is ok as well. I like them big and from Germany!

1. Do I have to be cheesy and constantly say "oh you're so beautiful..I lovey dovey you" blah blah blah?

2. How do I ask for sex without implying it? She dresses conservatively.

3. Do I have spend money on her, copious and ridiculous amounts, or when is a good time to a ask "is it ok if you this for yourself?" You see, I believe in equal rights.

4. I'm not a good talker on the phone, so far we have been texting..but for future reference in case we do talk a lot on the phone, which I hope is not the case, how do I keep the convo going because I'm shooting blanks here.

5. And this is the worst one of all, which is why I'm scared of having a true relationship. I don't want to get married for another 10 years or so, and I certainly DO NOT WANT kids, but if she does want either or those things, how do I tell her no? Being married or having kids would ultimately ruin my life. I don't want offspring because I fear I'll be like my POS father who never cared and only words are his actions. I don't want to be a bad guy, a deadbeat father and I don't believe in marriage because two people can still be together forever (no pun intended) without some social contract that always ends up being about money. So if the time comes, how do I explain this to her?

6. Meeting the parents, how did that work out for you guys? She also has a brother, so I'm in double the trouble.


She's an amazing girl, she's 20, I'm 22 and we met at the same college program, right at the end of the semester and it works out better this way because none of my colleagues will know who I'm with, as that just creates bad rumors and whatnot. The reason we were interested in each other is because we love grunge music. I'm a Pearl Jam fan, she's a Stone Temple Pilots fan, we both like each others bands and have a deep appreciation for the music. She's also very smart, which I love in a woman, and she reads lots of books. She's one of the few of our generation who absorbs all the information from a book and adds it to her knowledge. I like that a lot because I have a book collection and I always procrastinate. And here's the most fucked up part of all that still boggles my mind. She likes me despite my deformity which is being fat. She still gave me the time of day to take her out and I'm a fat fuck (but I am going to the gym). So that alone is just an amazing quality, and she's very beautiful.

thanks for your time in answering

Getting married in 9 days

I was told by my fiancee tonight..."What is mine is mine, what is yours will soon be mine"

Awesome

Well it sounds like you'll have a great time!

I still dont understand why girls dont speak with me. Im good looking and a polite person. I also don speak with girls that i really like but thats because i see that they are not interested in me.

You're forgetting that you have to be a cocky douchebag to get these girls. They are materialistic and superficial more than a normal person is.

[admartian]

Well you're not married... yet. Still time to consider other options.

lol yeah what PBM says.

Unless she's really funny of course and this is just your type of banter together.

Ok guys, so I think I may have a gf now. I wouldn't say it's official (to me, it's official when we kiss mouth to mouth) but I have taken her out to a movie and I'm gonna take her out again next week, and this summer. I'm new to this relationship game, so if we do "tie the knot" so to speak, I have a couple of questions I wanted to ask some of you more experienced men of PSU, and female input if we have any active female members on here, but sausage fest is ok as well. I like them big and from Germany!

1. Do I have to be cheesy and constantly say "oh you're so beautiful..I lovey dovey you" blah blah blah?
No. Unless you want to. But don't feel forced into doing so.

2. How do I ask for sex without implying it? She dresses conservatively.
Lol, would have no idea. I've never been smooth in this department.


3. Do I have spend money on her, copious and ridiculous amounts, or when is a good time to a ask "is it ok if you this for yourself?" You see, I believe in equal rights.
Iffy. While I understand your point, you'd have to find a polite way of doing this without putting her off.

4. I'm not a good talker on the phone, so far we have been texting..but for future reference in case we do talk a lot on the phone, which I hope is not the case, how do I keep the convo going because I'm shooting blanks here.
Don't extend the conversation artifically. Just let things play out naturally whether it's a short or a long conversation.


5. And this is the worst one of all, which is why I'm scared of having a true relationship. I don't want to get married for another 10 years or so, and I certainly DO NOT WANT kids, but if she does want either or those things, how do I tell her no? Being married or having kids would ultimately ruin my life. I don't want offspring because I fear I'll be like my POS father who never cared and only words are his actions. I don't want to be a bad guy, a deadbeat father and I don't believe in marriage because two people can still be together forever (no pun intended) without some social contract that always ends up being about money. So if the time comes, how do I explain this to her?
This is fair. I'd sya conversations like these are for more down the road. I don't want to say exactly how you should say it. but if it comes up, just be honest and say it tactfully whilst explaining why you feel that way.


6. Meeting the parents, how did that work out for you guys? She also has a brother, so I'm in double the trouble.
I think this is a case-by-case basis. Mine went fine. Was nervous at first. But it all depends on how her parents/family are like.



She's an amazing girl, she's 20, I'm 22 and we met at the same college program, right at the end of the semester and it works out better this way because none of my colleagues will know who I'm with, as that just creates bad rumors and whatnot. The reason we were interested in each other is because we love grunge music. I'm a Pearl Jam fan, she's a Stone Temple Pilots fan, we both like each others bands and have a deep appreciation for the music. She's also very smart, which I love in a woman, and she reads lots of books. She's one of the few of our generation who absorbs all the information from a book and adds it to her knowledge. I like that a lot because I have a book collection and I always procrastinate. And here's the most fucked up part of all that still boggles my mind. She likes me despite my deformity which is being fat. She still gave me the time of day to take her out and I'm a fat fuck (but I am going to the gym). So that alone is just an amazing quality, and she's very beautiful.

thanks for your time in answering





Well it sounds like you'll have a great time!



You're forgetting that you have to be a cocky douchebag to get these girls. They are materialistic and superficial more than a normal person is.

Responses inline.

I still dont understand why girls dont speak with me. Im good looking and a polite person. I also don speak with girls that i really like but thats because i see that they are not interested in me.

What Dre says above; girls these days are materialistc and shallow ().

To throw them off, just tell 'em you have a huge Johnson (whether true or not); and if true, just whip it out. 96.33% of girls these days are sluts so I'm sure you'll hit more than you'll miss.

Plus, that, and money, status and security are ALL theyc are about anyway. So tell 'em you're loaded too.

Shallow creatures...















(jj, just baiting the ladies out there. )

[Beast of Bourbon]

Ok guys, so I think I may have a gf now. I wouldn't say it's official (to me, it's official when we kiss mouth to mouth) but I have taken her out to a movie and I'm gonna take her out again next week, and this summer. I'm new to this relationship game, so if we do "tie the knot" so to speak, I have a couple of questions I wanted to ask some of you more experienced men of PSU, and female input if we have any active female members on here, but sausage fest is ok as well. I like them big and from Germany!

1. Do I have to be cheesy and constantly say "oh you're so beautiful..I lovey dovey you" blah blah blah?

2. How do I ask for sex without implying it? She dresses conservatively.

3. Do I have spend money on her, copious and ridiculous amounts, or when is a good time to a ask "is it ok if you this for yourself?" You see, I believe in equal rights.

4. I'm not a good talker on the phone, so far we have been texting..but for future reference in case we do talk a lot on the phone, which I hope is not the case, how do I keep the convo going because I'm shooting blanks here.

5. And this is the worst one of all, which is why I'm scared of having a true relationship. I don't want to get married for another 10 years or so, and I certainly DO NOT WANT kids, but if she does want either or those things, how do I tell her no? Being married or having kids would ultimately ruin my life. I don't want offspring because I fear I'll be like my POS father who never cared and only words are his actions. I don't want to be a bad guy, a deadbeat father and I don't believe in marriage because two people can still be together forever (no pun intended) without some social contract that always ends up being about money. So if the time comes, how do I explain this to her?

6. Meeting the parents, how did that work out for you guys? She also has a brother, so I'm in double the trouble.


She's an amazing girl, she's 20, I'm 22 and we met at the same college program, right at the end of the semester and it works out better this way because none of my colleagues will know who I'm with, as that just creates bad rumors and whatnot. The reason we were interested in each other is because we love grunge music. I'm a Pearl Jam fan, she's a Stone Temple Pilots fan, we both like each others bands and have a deep appreciation for the music. She's also very smart, which I love in a woman, and she reads lots of books. She's one of the few of our generation who absorbs all the information from a book and adds it to her knowledge. I like that a lot because I have a book collection and I always procrastinate. And here's the most fucked up part of all that still boggles my mind. She likes me despite my deformity which is being fat. She still gave me the time of day to take her out and I'm a fat fuck (but I am going to the gym). So that alone is just an amazing quality, and she's very beautiful.

thanks for your time in

First of all epic brofist Dre! also Germany fuck yeah!

1. Nope you don't.
I think it's more important to make them laugh, there's no need to play the white knight.
This also gives your words more weight when you say something nice (from time to time)!

2. Dude she's german, you won't have that problem
But seriously you shouldn't have to ask, just kiss her and "let it happen" (if she doesn't STOP you at some point).
If you feel confident enough you can also just tell her that you want to fuck her when you make out.
Always remember they want it too! You are not a beggar asking for a dollar.

3. In my experience the girl will offer to pay her own cinematicket etc. at some point, just let her do it.
If you invite her to a fancy restaurant you should pay the bill but once you're together for a few months she can start to pay her own shit, just wait a little.

4. Oh god telephone terror, endless conversaitions - hell on earth.
I hate that too bro so i just keep it short and simple, this will end once you've been together for a while.

5. No need to think about this yet, you're both young.
Just don't forget to wrap it before you tap it or you'll be in a world of shit.
Maybe you should practice a little bit before you go into war because it can be hard to get that stupid rubber on in the heat of battle

There's no need to be down and hate yourself anymore but the gym can help with that.
Much more important then the muscles is the boost in confidence - people will notice this instanstly.
So just keep at it and congrats dude!

[DreDayDetox]

LMFAO, thanks for replies, you're fucking awesome, Bourbon.

5. No need to think about this yet, you're both young.
Just don't forget to wrap it before you tap it or you'll be in a world of shit.
Maybe you should practice a little bit before you go into war because it can be hard to get that stupid rubber on in the heat of battle

I have a fleshlight, will that suffice for practice?

[Molo316]

Congrats, Dre.

The whole marriage and kids thing is too much. Like Bourbon said, you are both very young, and it would surprise me if someone as young as 20 thought like that. Enjoy
And if you're conscious about your appearance, just think that it shows she must be respectable to go out with you, although just from what I've read I'd gather that that never even went through her mind.

I wish you all the best.

[Beast of Bourbon]

I have a fleshlight, will that suffice for practice?

Millionaires wank man (fap with a rubber on)

[Dave-The-Rave]

So I've just been dealt a crushing blow, the girl that I've been talking about on here recently. (The one I had gotten quite close to)...turns out she's just confirmed she is dating some other guy. Of course I am meant to be fine with this because I decided I wasn't going to persue her anymore after the last time I wrote about on here, if you remember I said I still wanted to be friends and she still definitely considers me a friend, a good one.

I'm not going to lie, the only reason I was so fine with cooling my jets was because I did not expect this to happen at all. I just thought she wasn't the dating type of girl, and I thought that deep down there was some sort of spark between us..but now. I just don't know how to react.

I am meant to be her friend, and however I react now is going to change the whole dynamic of that. I am meant to be going to her birthday next week, and I won't lie..before I found out this news I was planning on flirting a bit on that night. Part of me wants to go, but now a huge part of me wants to just run an hide...though if I do that now it is going to be so obvious why I don't show up. The whole situation just feels so messy, and I hate myself for letting me get carried away with these feelings.

I know there is really nothing I can do, I just needed to talk about it.

[spyrde]

So I've just been dealt a crushing blow, the girl that I've been talking about on here recently. (The one I had gotten quite close to)...turns out she's just confirmed she is dating some other guy. Of course I am meant to be fine with this because I decided I wasn't going to persue her anymore after the last time I wrote about on here, if you remember I said I still wanted to be friends and she still definitely considers me a friend, a good one.

I'm not going to lie, the only reason I was so fine with cooling my jets was because I did not expect this to happen at all. I just thought she wasn't the dating type of girl, and I thought that deep down there was some sort of spark between us..but now. I just don't know how to react.

I am meant to be her friend, and however I react now is going to change the whole dynamic of that. I am meant to be going to her birthday next week, and I won't lie..before I found out this news I was planning on flirting a bit on that night. Part of me wants to go, but now a huge part of me wants to just run an hide...though if I do that now it is going to be so obvious why I don't show up. The whole situation just feels so messy, and I hate myself for letting me get carried away with these feelings.

I know there is really nothing I can do, I just needed to talk about it.

Don't go the party man, stop clinging on her and move on. You don't want to be her friend unless she is really a good person who you trust and is someone you can hang out with without any thoughts on the back of your mind, and I'll bet 100$ she ain't that. The most beta move you could do now is to be her ''friend''. I think it'd be even better if she knew the reason why you won't show up.

[Dave-The-Rave]

I dunno man, I mean I've been steeling myself against something like this for a while. The truth is she is still a good friend, its not like its her fault for not liking me that way. This is my problem.

On another note, ever since I started feeling this wouldn't lead to anything more a few weeks ago I've been trying to look at other girls. There is one girl, the thing is she is the other girl's housemate..we don't really know each other yet. I would like to though. She'll be at the party..so I'm wondering if I go maybe I could get to know her better.

[yourmumsface17]

Haven't spoken to my partner for about 5 days. Why you ask? Because I decided to go watch the England game with a few friends (I didn't even go in the end because she went crazy) so I said she could come over and she said she would, I didn't text her back as I didn't think it was necessary and she went crazy because apparently I didn't show any enthusiasm or something.

So my buddies wanted to go out to celebrate my b day a few days late the next night and she hasn't spoken to me since (Well properly anyways).

So we our locked in a stalemate, do I apoligise even though I am not sorry? Am I in the wrong for saying I would watch the football with my friends (She said she was going to come over after work, I got invited out and asked her if she wanted to come watch footy with us, she said no.)

So am I in the wrong here?

[The Black Wolf]

Haven't spoken to my partner for about 5 days. Why you ask? Because I decided to go watch the England game with a few friends (I didn't even go in the end because she went crazy) so I said she could come over and she said she would, I didn't text her back as I didn't think it was necessary and she went crazy because apparently I didn't show any enthusiasm or something.

So my buddies wanted to go out to celebrate my b day a few days late the next night and she hasn't spoken to me since (Well properly anyways).

So we our locked in a stalemate, do I apoligise even though I am not sorry? Am I in the wrong for saying I would watch the football with my friends (She said she was going to come over after work, I got invited out and asked her if she wanted to come watch footy with us, she said no.)

So am I in the wrong here?

No, you're not in the wrong. Everyone needs "me" time or time to hang out with their friends. I don't understand why she's going crazy on you.

[The Black Wolf]

Is eharmony the best dating site out there? I'm willing to pay the price, but only if it's the best.

[yourmumsface17]

No, you're not in the wrong. Everyone needs "me" time or time to hang out with their friends. I don't understand why she's going crazy on you.

Thanks

We spend nearly all our time together; I just wanted one night to enjoy the England game with my friends, I understand if she was slightly miffed because she was going to come to mine, but she should understand that I don't want to spend 24/7 with her. We even got over that but she then got upset just because I didn't show enthusiasm because she was coming over She hasn't spoken to me since Saturday because of this

I love her to bits, but I am sick of how high maintenance she is, whenever she says jump and I don't say "how high" she throws the toys out the pram, been like this for fecking 2 years, I love her to bits and if we do break up this is going to be the toughest period of my life. (Things aren't exactly rosey for me right now, infact I am probably at the worst point of my life, but I am trying to remain positive)

If I lose her then well, it might be a blessing but at the same time, it couldn't happen at a worse time for me.


Infact i have a good story on why she is so high maintenance, a couple weeks ago I went to the beach with a few friends and went back to there's to much about on the PS3 etc, we had no plans; she was working, and I was going to come over to her house later that night to stay there. She asked what I have been doing so I said what, she went mental, for no reason and didn't speak to me all night.

Why?

She rings me when I was on my way, so we talk fine and everything

Is eharmony the best dating site out there? I'm willing to pay the price, but only if it's the best

Try Plenty of Fish first, it's free and pretty active from what I understand, I remember I took the eharmony match up test and got no matches